November 14, 2022 • 25 mins
Social Media has a lot of fun aspects to it, but crime is not one of them. Reality star and podcast host herself, Teddi Mellencamp joins Caelynn as they discuss the transgressions that have occurred as a result of unwitting posts. One of which was the murder of rapper Popsmoke that took place in the home he was renting from Teddi.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to True Crime Reality with host Caitlin Miller Keys.
Things are about to get real. Teddy Mellencamp, former housewife,
devoted mom, and homeowner who received a phone call that
is every landlord's worst nightmare. There was a murder in
her home atop the Hollywood Hills. Teddy recalls the breaking
news like it was yesterday when prominent rapper Pop Smoke
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was killed in cold blood on her property. Caitlin Miller
Keys investigates on True Crime Reality. Hello everyone, and welcome
back to the True Crime Reality podcast. I am here
with Teddy Mellancamp and I am so excited about this episode.
It's a crazy story. And you know Teddy from the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills one of my favorite housewives
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shows and loved you on The Housewives. You're amazing. So
do you want to tell everyone a little bit about yourself? Um, well,
my name is Teddy Mellancamp Ariave. I am a mom
and stepmother of four amazing kids. I have a husband
named Edwin. I run a business called All Invite Teddy,
and I host a podcast with tam Or Judge on
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I Heart Radio as well called Two Teas in a
pod where we break down all things housewives and get
ourselves into a lot of trouble. I love that all
things Housewives a lot of trouble sounds great. Yeah, I
mean it's we can we can't let any crumb go
on uneaten. Yes, and there's a lot of them. There
are so many, you can't you know, the rabbit hole
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Like I've been down in your rabbit hole before. Like,
I'll look on the instant and then I have to
go and then and then you're like, where am I?
How did I find myself here? Yeah? How did I
get here at two am? When I was asleep at eight? Like?
Why did I wake up and do this? Yeah? That's
me this morning. Yeah, I get it. It's a real issue.
And then my husband's like, what are you looking at?
And I'm like, how do I even explain that I
got to this person's page fourteen removed from me? Well,
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Teddy is here a property of Teddy's property of yours? Yes, Um,
there was a murder. There was um, and it didn't
actually Okay. So to give you a little backstory, if
you watch a Housewives of Beverly Hills the first season
that I was on, I lived in this house and
I absolutely loved it, never wanted to move out of it,
but our family outgrew it and we moved. We actually
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had moved right down the street, and we had put
our home up to be rented out, and we had
a property management company that rented it, and you know,
we never knew who was renting or not. We did
know that there was a couple of times where people
would have parties because we could hear it from our
other house that we were living in down the street,
and we're like, what is going on? But cut to um.
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I was still filming Housewives now it's probably my third season.
It's four AM and or maybe five am. It's early
in the morning, and somebody that works for me calls
me and I answered the phone and she's crying and
I'm like what and she's like, you're alive. And I'm
like what are you talking about? And she's like, turn
on kt l A and I'm like what and she's like,
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there was somebody murdered at the party you had last night.
I'm like, what are you talking about? Like I have abs,
I'm like party, I'm p I think I was either
pregnant or like there was no way I was parting. Absolutely.
I was like, what do you mean? And she's like,
and so my husband gets out of bed. I'm like, baby,
go check on the other house, like let's see what's
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going on. I turned on the news. I see my
name everywhere, and I mean, granted, my name wasn't even
listed as an owner on the house. My husband's was,
and so I don't even know how that information came about.
But um, so he walked down and there was a
million news cameras, like everybody's out front of our other house,
and we had no idea what was happening. Um So,
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essentially what happened was Pop Smoke rented our home through
an agency, a rental agency, but he didn't rent it
under his name Pop Smoke. He rented it. His manager
rented it for him. So we had absolutely no idea
it was Pop Smoke that was staying at the house.
And um somebody ran around the back of the house
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in the middle of the night and came in and
there were shots fired, and um he handed up. It's
like so heartbreaking, but he ended up passing away on
the way to the hospital once they had called nine
on one, and thankfully my husband's security cameras caught that there,
you know, where the people ran in and all these
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different things. You could hear. There was two other people
in the house with Pop Smoke, and ultimately we don't
know all the answers. We just know that, you know,
it was reported on the news. We we don't know
him personally, We never met him, We didn't know he
was staying there, and but what we did see after
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the fact was he was posting on Instagram. So this
is just kind of a warning to anybody as somebody
had sent him a gift, like you know how people
will send influencers gifts, and he had videoed it the
gift that came and it had the address on there.
I I mean, I I don't know the end result
of what happened, because you know, when like things happen
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that are really scary, you kind of blocked them out,
especially as a mom and um and being in the
public eye. I don't really even know where the end
of this case goes. It was really, you know one
of those situations where I the Pop Smoke and his
friend were showing money in front of the house, posting pictures,
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posting their address, and it's devastating and then you know,
he passed away. You could. I mean, obviously it's illegal
to have security camps inside of a house, um when
you're renting it out, but we had them around the
house on the outside, and so we had seen how
they entered through the back door and through the front door.
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We saw them call nine one one. We saw the
girl run up, run up to him after he was shot.
And I mean, it's just so this was during the
party or after. There wasn't even a party that night
he had gone out, like there was just always parties
that the people wanted to rent the house because it
was in Hollywood Hills, and you know, his whole life,
he's been working towards this goal. And then after he
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passes when his song, oh my gosh. Yeah, but it's
I mean, it's beyond like his family. I I can't
even imagine. But it's why we just have to protect
ourselves on social media and know that there are people watching,
and especially like you just had to be careful no
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matter where you are. That's I was just about to say,
people are watching, and my boyfriend is um like pretty
lax about that sometimes, like with places where staying your
addresses and I think like, no matter what, you just
really need to be cautious. You just don't know, yeah
you have, you have absolutely no idea, and especially if
there is a history of you know, there's like trouble,
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and then people are going to go out of their
way to find you, and if you make it easier
for them. And of course this is no blame on
any nobody should go into anybody's house with a gun,
Like there's there's no excuse for any of it. But
it's more just like for my kids, like this was
a good reminder to me, Like I was like, you're
not having social media, Yeah, you're nowhere near ready to
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handle something like this because they don't know, like I
I can have the wherewithal to go, Okay, this is
somewhere I could post or whatever I mean. And and
there's there's so many break ins in general now, especially
for people in the public eye, because they'll post that
they're out of town and then that's when people can
see like what you have monetarily like yeah, of course
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designer things and yeah, and then if they feel like
it's in the reach. I mean, I was just watching
the Blingering documentary even and this is the four social
media was even a big thing. They targeted Paris Hilton,
they targeted Rachel Bilson, they targeted anybody that they figured
out where they were at a specific time, like, oh,
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this first, Orlando bloom is filming a movie. We saw
TMZ posts that him and his trailer. Let's go to
his house tonight, like and those are like kids. Those
they were kids also that just were in the party
scene that wanted it at all. And you know, we
that's why we have to teach, like you have to
work for what it is that you want. It's not
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just yours to take because you can figure it out
because you're a good detective. I think they were specifically
targeting him, and they didn't really keep us in the
loop other than you know, can we have the security
footage from the outside of the home we saw the
car we went over and luckily we had done this
security on the house next door, I mean across the street,
so they had their security camp so they could see
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that there was three individuals who got out of the car.
I would assume they pop smoke and his I don't
know if it's a girlfriend, but a female friend and
the other gentleman. They all got home and then the
people arrived shortly after. So who knows that they were
following them from the studio? Who knows if it happened
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from Instagram? Who like, we don't know what was your
involvement after, Like you're the owner of the home. So they,
I mean they, especially on a high profile case like this,
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I mean, ultimately it was just we want your information.
And then the sick part is all the people that
reached out that wanted us to sell the security footage no,
like all of this like will you give you know,
would you? And we're like absolutely not. I was like, no,
I'm not capitalizing on somebody else's Like that's somebody's son.
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Someone died, Like someone died. This isn't like and you couldn't.
If I would have thought that it was something that
would help to catch them, then then the police would
have released the footage, you know, like they did in
in so many other cases. I could see a part
of somebody's face or something like that. It was it
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was not like that, it really so I don't know how.
I don't know how they ended up finding out, but
I do know that, like for a long time, I
would people were just so you know, when whenever somebody
passes away, and whenever there's a crime, and whenever there's unknowns,
like people were coming after us like you had something
to do with this? Did you do that? I'm like
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people were blaming you. Oh I had to like turn
off all commenting on my Instagram, Yes, because people were like,
maybe you probably knew who was there, and because the
news had reported that I was at my party. Oh,
you know, like there's just so many it's a game
of telephone. Did that affect your your feeling of safety after?
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You know? I think between that and all of the
break ins that have been happening in l a sense,
I think it's a continuous thing that you know, does
happen when you're in the public eye, and you know
what happens regardless, but when you put your life on display,
you have to know that, like one, there's gonna be
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paparazzi too, There's gonna you know, so you have to
figure out ways to protect yourself but also still try
to be as authentic as you can to what your
life actually is. And it's it's a really thin line,
which is why I think social media is can be
dangerous with kids and why I mean I'm like, so
I could go on a full tangent, but I could
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like snapchat is so frightening to me. Oh, that's probably
the worst for the worst. And everybody buying these, you know,
they think they're buying a xan X in the place
with Vente, Like I could on nestly go like the
amount of like the Rainbow Fenton al all these different things.
Like it's there's so many crimes now happening through social media,
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and I think it's only going to get worse as
the exposure gets bigger. Um. So there is a trial
scept for Corey Walker, who did end up confessing. Yeah,
he confessed. Allegedly he confessed to the killing secretly and
recorded conversations with informants in jail. Wow, that's wild, like
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the fact that you wonder is he bragging, you know,
who confesses to something like that. But you can only
imagine that the amount of fame that Pops Smoke has
posthumous Lee gained. So, I mean, he was always talented,
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but sadly, a lot of the time talent is isn't
recognized until somebody's gone on. So allegedly, what the detectives
think is that it was a fifteen year old who
pulled the trigger. That is crazy. It was February and
I had my daughter February. That's that's what it was.
I was like, you'll if you ever decide you want
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to have kids, like you will. There's this weird thing
that happens when you're pregnant where you honestly can like
black out full inform like information to protect yourself. And like,
I remember, this has absolutely nothing to do with me,
but I remember what when this happened, I like immediately
was like so scared for like my baby to come
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into this world, that this is the world that we're
living in, and thinking about the pain that his mother
must feel. Oh, it's heartbreaking for something that like you
absolutely like you're like, could this have been avoided? Is
this a planned attack? Like your mind goes to the deepest,
darkest places out of out of fear. It really is.
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It's crazy. And I mean, we don't own the house anymore,
but I was going to ask if you sold did
you sold it? Sell it? Shortly after we had it?
I mean it was always on the market for either
sale or rental um And then once this happened, we realized,
like we don't want to rent this house out for
short term anymore because people obviously are renting this as
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a party house. It had an amazing view and you know,
like it wasn't like families were renting this house like
they're like a purpose. Yeah, they're like, we want to
rent this house to be in the Hollywood Hills and
come out like they can go to the club and
then come here and um, so we would put it
on the market, and it was it was information that
we shared with anybody that came to look at the property.
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And and someone obviously bought it, obviously bought it and
they I mean, it's it sounds terrible to say, but
like because he didn't pass away in the home, we
passed away in the ambulance, there's like a different level
that you you rank a house that can be sold.
So but we still disclosed all the information that this crime.
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I know there is actually real estate laws because I
was looking into getting my real estate license. Um, and
if there was a death inside your home, you you
legally have to disclose that. So I don't think you
legally have to in in your case, but I think
that's what they did. And it's like it's so public too.
Not only did we want to, and we worked with
you know, we worked with our friends at Farah over
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at the agency, and she was like completely transparent with everybody,
and we were like, this is you know, where it happened,
and we just need you to know. And this was,
you know, our family home. We loved it, and it
breaks our hearts that this happened. You know, we still
haven't told our our kids because that like this is
where Slate and Crews were born. Oh, that is tricky
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and they're so young still. Yeah, and they always went like,
can we drive by our first house? Like you know,
like do you remember your first house? And that like
takes some innocence. Yeah, And I'm like, are my my
stepdaughter she knows because she's old enough that like she
sees things on the internet and I remember when it happened.
She was actually at her mom's and she called and
she's like, what happened. Somebody at school told me this
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happened at our house. Like she didn't know if we
were there or not either, and we're like, no, no,
it's the old house, Like it's not our house that
we all you know, um geez. He was a talented
young man and we I don't know. I just hope.
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I hope at the end of the day, it's like
the biggest thing for me. And I don't know if
this is controversial to say or not, but like, I
just have such an issue with guns in general, like
for just especially with like your children should not be
able to get their hands on a gun year old
fift like absolutely not, like I and people were like,
you know, there's reasons that they I'm like, no, absolutely no,
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I don't need my fifteen year old to learn to
shoot anything. I can say this. I don't know if
the same goes for you, but I will post that
I'm on a run somewhere on Ventura, like it's not
even blatantly obvious where I am, and within twenty minutes
there'll be yeah, I'll be heading back to my house
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and then they'll be like five guys taking and I'm like, what,
how did they figure out where I am? And then
I'm like, then I realized I can't post my runs
in real time because they'll see something like as trivial
as like the McDonald's and know that I've passed that
on the because they know where I live. Oh gosh,
so people are crafty and they figured it out. I
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mean there are even fans of the show that will
come to my gate and ring the bell and and
like do like bring me flowers or whatever, like being nice.
But it's still like this is my home, yeah, with
my children. So it's a very it's a very thin
line because of course you want to be kind and
you want to be grateful, but you also need to
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set boundaries and say like this it is crossing mine.
So I guess like the number one thing people can
do is not post their location in real time at least. Yeah,
I mean, not post the location. I mean, and I
mean your house getting leaked is oh yeah crazy, Yeah
the house they did that to everybody, you know, like
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everybody on the show is on the show. Everyone's like,
yeah they show the front of the house. Privacy issue too, yeah,
I mean, so it's people are like, oh, you signed
up for this, not that. Yeah, you're like didn't You
still have to. But I think also what people need
to remember is like it's still a television show. No
matter how real these shows are, It's not an open Yeah,
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it's TV. It's not like an open invitation for anybody
that wants to swing by right a quick hour, turn
it on, turn it off. Yeah, but especially with the
with the burglaries, Like I mean, obviously with the pop smoke,
you know from what we know, that was a hit,
like that was planned. But for these for these burglaries
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that have been going around, they are targeting people that
they think are out of town. So that's also scary
because even when you think about like the Derek Kimsley
breaking at her house, she was posting, not in real time,
she was posting she was in London when she was home,
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so it's like you can't and they broke in then
because they thought she was out of town. Oh my gosh.
So what are you supposed to do that? That's quit
social media? Now, you put your alarm systems on. Yeah,
did you not have an alarm one? I to my
knowledge now, um, but you put your alarm systems on,
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you come up with like you have a panic button,
you do all of those things, have a plan because
we don't know. I mean, it's to the point now
you can't walk around Beverly Hills and not have a plan.
It's it's getting crazy. You know. Beverly Hills used to
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be this luxurious place where everybody wanted to wear their
biggest jewels, carry their all their birkins, do these things
like absolutely not now, like you don't wear your wedding
ring too way Yeah. Like it's there's huge, long lines
to get into all the stores, but nobody's buying anything.
It's like, what is happening. My husband owns a home
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automation and security company, so that was one of the
things people, you know, the first thing they want to
do is be like, well, how did this happen in
the house that you own. I'm like, well, one, there
was no alarm on, there's no alarm set, there's no
cameras inside the house, like all of those things. But um,
he just said it's it's teddy, like, you have to
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set the alarm. And I'm like, but if you're still
you haven't gotten home from work, I've to set the alarm.
He's like, yes, the sucking You get home with the kids,
you lock the door, and you set the alarm. And
I'm like, but then you have to come. He's like, Teddy, yes,
Like there's no like. But I grew up in a
different time, you know, I grew up in South Carolina.
Like we left. We never we let your front door
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unlocked all the time. Yeah, Like it was like then,
you know, everybody's key was under the doormat. We're not
there anymore, No, I think that's so smart. Like always
have the alarm set. I always do most of the time,
and I have like an evacuate I tell my boyfriend
all the time if he's never home, I'm like, I
know exactly what I'm gonna do if someone breaks in.
I'm gonna jump off this and jump into that. In
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my mind, I would do that, but I mean, I
it all depends on the person that breaks in, though,
because of what they're in. Tality is like what are
they there for? Are they there for cash? Are they
there for your items? Are they there to hurt you?
Like you just don't know? And I guess that's whatever
your mental state is when they arrive. As it's just
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it's frightening to But I feel like you're in the
safest position with what your husband does. I mean, yeah,
I I am, as long as I follow all the
rules you know, to him, Yeah, as long as I
listened to him, I mean, because he I mean, there
are certain there's certain things that I've learned that I
didn't necessarily know because of you know, growing up in
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a twelve mile long island. But like the higher up
in the hills you are, the more that a break
in is going to happen because it's further away from
like where people are driving, so it's more quiet and
people have more time to like get in and get out.
They're not going to do it at three am because
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that's a suspicious time, So it's going to be more
like a ten pm because it seems more common that
someone comes inside and out of a house at ten
at three. If you're sleeping and you heard some banging around,
you might stir. That's actually really good to know. Yeah,
So it's like especially the further that you live from.
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Like so even during my runs the other day, I
got like I had like a nervous feeling when I
was running, you know, and you like kind of look mind,
You're like there's someone there. And I called my husband.
I'm like, I put find my phone on, make sure
you're tracking me right now, and he's like, also are
you running? Like where are you running? And he's like,
one run right off the main street on a neighborhood
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because that's where all the families are that are going
to look out and see you. If it's just complete
like strangers just zooming down the main road, they're not
going to probably notice. There are some crazy people in
this world. The That's what you have to remember, no
matter what you post, no matter what you do, no
matter what all that like, people will go to all
ends of the world to like some people are addicted
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to it, addicted to the thrill of crime. I'm addicted
to watching it. I'm addicted to yeah, crime podcasts. I
don't watch the shows. I only listen to podcast because
I don't like to see their faces. But I am
a hold on. You don't have to see everybody's faces, Okay,
I can't. I'll have nightmares. But I don't have nightmares
if I just listen. I need to know every detail
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about what somebody like you could be like my friend Jan,
and I'd be like, can I see Jan? I cannot
hear a story without getting a full visual like I
need to know. I cannot hear a story without knowing
a full physical breakdown. I don't know why, because I
have to imagine the entire crime or situation. That's what
freaks me out. I just want to know about it,
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but I don't want to like envision it then it
makes it really don't really know what it is. Actually,
You're gonna have to go down so many more rabbit
holes and I'm excited to listen and tune in. Yeah,
thank you so much for coming on. I think this
was the longest one. We did get into a few
rabbit holes here. I can't I can't help myself from
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wie off topic. Welcome to the c D life. Thank
you so much for coming on, and everyone can listen
to your podcast at two teas, in a pod on
I Heart Radio, or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Awesome,
Thank you so much, of course, thank you so much
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at True Crime Reality. Until next time,
Welcome to True Crime Reality with host Caitlin Miller Keys.
Things are about to get real. Teddy Mellencamp, former housewife,
devoted mom, and homeowner who received a phone call that
is every landlord's worst nightmare. There was a murder in
her home atop the Hollywood Hills. Teddy recalls the breaking
news like it was yesterday when prominent rapper Pop Smoke
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was killed in cold blood on her property. Caitlin Miller
Keys investigates on True Crime Reality. Hello everyone, and welcome
back to the True Crime Reality podcast. I am here
with Teddy Mellancamp and I am so excited about this episode.
It's a crazy story. And you know Teddy from the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills one of my favorite housewives
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shows and loved you on The Housewives. You're amazing. So
do you want to tell everyone a little bit about yourself? Um, well,
my name is Teddy Mellancamp Ariave. I am a mom
and stepmother of four amazing kids. I have a husband
named Edwin. I run a business called All Invite Teddy,
and I host a podcast with tam Or Judge on
(01:03):
I Heart Radio as well called Two Teas in a
pod where we break down all things housewives and get
ourselves into a lot of trouble. I love that all
things Housewives a lot of trouble sounds great. Yeah, I
mean it's we can we can't let any crumb go
on uneaten. Yes, and there's a lot of them. There
are so many, you can't you know, the rabbit hole
(01:25):
Like I've been down in your rabbit hole before. Like,
I'll look on the instant and then I have to
go and then and then you're like, where am I?
How did I find myself here? Yeah? How did I
get here at two am? When I was asleep at eight? Like?
Why did I wake up and do this? Yeah? That's
me this morning. Yeah, I get it. It's a real issue.
And then my husband's like, what are you looking at?
And I'm like, how do I even explain that I
got to this person's page fourteen removed from me? Well,
(01:49):
Teddy is here a property of Teddy's property of yours? Yes, Um,
there was a murder. There was um, and it didn't
actually Okay. So to give you a little backstory, if
you watch a Housewives of Beverly Hills the first season
that I was on, I lived in this house and
I absolutely loved it, never wanted to move out of it,
but our family outgrew it and we moved. We actually
(02:10):
had moved right down the street, and we had put
our home up to be rented out, and we had
a property management company that rented it, and you know,
we never knew who was renting or not. We did
know that there was a couple of times where people
would have parties because we could hear it from our
other house that we were living in down the street,
and we're like, what is going on? But cut to um.
(02:34):
I was still filming Housewives now it's probably my third season.
It's four AM and or maybe five am. It's early
in the morning, and somebody that works for me calls
me and I answered the phone and she's crying and
I'm like what and she's like, you're alive. And I'm
like what are you talking about? And she's like, turn
on kt l A and I'm like what and she's like,
(02:58):
there was somebody murdered at the party you had last night.
I'm like, what are you talking about? Like I have abs,
I'm like party, I'm p I think I was either
pregnant or like there was no way I was parting. Absolutely.
I was like, what do you mean? And she's like,
and so my husband gets out of bed. I'm like, baby,
go check on the other house, like let's see what's
(03:19):
going on. I turned on the news. I see my
name everywhere, and I mean, granted, my name wasn't even
listed as an owner on the house. My husband's was,
and so I don't even know how that information came about.
But um, so he walked down and there was a
million news cameras, like everybody's out front of our other house,
and we had no idea what was happening. Um So,
(03:43):
essentially what happened was Pop Smoke rented our home through
an agency, a rental agency, but he didn't rent it
under his name Pop Smoke. He rented it. His manager
rented it for him. So we had absolutely no idea
it was Pop Smoke that was staying at the house.
And um somebody ran around the back of the house
(04:05):
in the middle of the night and came in and
there were shots fired, and um he handed up. It's
like so heartbreaking, but he ended up passing away on
the way to the hospital once they had called nine
on one, and thankfully my husband's security cameras caught that there,
you know, where the people ran in and all these
(04:26):
different things. You could hear. There was two other people
in the house with Pop Smoke, and ultimately we don't
know all the answers. We just know that, you know,
it was reported on the news. We we don't know
him personally, We never met him, We didn't know he
was staying there, and but what we did see after
(04:49):
the fact was he was posting on Instagram. So this
is just kind of a warning to anybody as somebody
had sent him a gift, like you know how people
will send influencers gifts, and he had videoed it the
gift that came and it had the address on there.
I I mean, I I don't know the end result
of what happened, because you know, when like things happen
(05:12):
that are really scary, you kind of blocked them out,
especially as a mom and um and being in the
public eye. I don't really even know where the end
of this case goes. It was really, you know one
of those situations where I the Pop Smoke and his
friend were showing money in front of the house, posting pictures,
(05:34):
posting their address, and it's devastating and then you know,
he passed away. You could. I mean, obviously it's illegal
to have security camps inside of a house, um when
you're renting it out, but we had them around the
house on the outside, and so we had seen how
they entered through the back door and through the front door.
(05:56):
We saw them call nine one one. We saw the
girl run up, run up to him after he was shot.
And I mean, it's just so this was during the
party or after. There wasn't even a party that night
he had gone out, like there was just always parties
that the people wanted to rent the house because it
was in Hollywood Hills, and you know, his whole life,
he's been working towards this goal. And then after he
(06:19):
passes when his song, oh my gosh. Yeah, but it's
I mean, it's beyond like his family. I I can't
even imagine. But it's why we just have to protect
ourselves on social media and know that there are people watching,
and especially like you just had to be careful no
(06:40):
matter where you are. That's I was just about to say,
people are watching, and my boyfriend is um like pretty
lax about that sometimes, like with places where staying your
addresses and I think like, no matter what, you just
really need to be cautious. You just don't know, yeah
you have, you have absolutely no idea, and especially if
there is a history of you know, there's like trouble,
(07:03):
and then people are going to go out of their
way to find you, and if you make it easier
for them. And of course this is no blame on
any nobody should go into anybody's house with a gun,
Like there's there's no excuse for any of it. But
it's more just like for my kids, like this was
a good reminder to me, Like I was like, you're
not having social media, Yeah, you're nowhere near ready to
(07:28):
handle something like this because they don't know, like I
I can have the wherewithal to go, Okay, this is
somewhere I could post or whatever I mean. And and
there's there's so many break ins in general now, especially
for people in the public eye, because they'll post that
they're out of town and then that's when people can
see like what you have monetarily like yeah, of course
(07:50):
designer things and yeah, and then if they feel like
it's in the reach. I mean, I was just watching
the Blingering documentary even and this is the four social
media was even a big thing. They targeted Paris Hilton,
they targeted Rachel Bilson, they targeted anybody that they figured
out where they were at a specific time, like, oh,
(08:10):
this first, Orlando bloom is filming a movie. We saw
TMZ posts that him and his trailer. Let's go to
his house tonight, like and those are like kids. Those
they were kids also that just were in the party
scene that wanted it at all. And you know, we
that's why we have to teach, like you have to
work for what it is that you want. It's not
(08:31):
just yours to take because you can figure it out
because you're a good detective. I think they were specifically
targeting him, and they didn't really keep us in the
loop other than you know, can we have the security
footage from the outside of the home we saw the
car we went over and luckily we had done this
security on the house next door, I mean across the street,
so they had their security camp so they could see
(08:52):
that there was three individuals who got out of the car.
I would assume they pop smoke and his I don't
know if it's a girlfriend, but a female friend and
the other gentleman. They all got home and then the
people arrived shortly after. So who knows that they were
following them from the studio? Who knows if it happened
(09:12):
from Instagram? Who like, we don't know what was your
involvement after, Like you're the owner of the home. So they,
I mean they, especially on a high profile case like this,
(09:35):
I mean, ultimately it was just we want your information.
And then the sick part is all the people that
reached out that wanted us to sell the security footage no,
like all of this like will you give you know,
would you? And we're like absolutely not. I was like, no,
I'm not capitalizing on somebody else's Like that's somebody's son.
(10:01):
Someone died, Like someone died. This isn't like and you couldn't.
If I would have thought that it was something that
would help to catch them, then then the police would
have released the footage, you know, like they did in
in so many other cases. I could see a part
of somebody's face or something like that. It was it
(10:23):
was not like that, it really so I don't know how.
I don't know how they ended up finding out, but
I do know that, like for a long time, I
would people were just so you know, when whenever somebody
passes away, and whenever there's a crime, and whenever there's unknowns,
like people were coming after us like you had something
to do with this? Did you do that? I'm like
(10:44):
people were blaming you. Oh I had to like turn
off all commenting on my Instagram, Yes, because people were like,
maybe you probably knew who was there, and because the
news had reported that I was at my party. Oh,
you know, like there's just so many it's a game
of telephone. Did that affect your your feeling of safety after?
(11:06):
You know? I think between that and all of the
break ins that have been happening in l a sense,
I think it's a continuous thing that you know, does
happen when you're in the public eye, and you know
what happens regardless, but when you put your life on display,
you have to know that, like one, there's gonna be
(11:28):
paparazzi too, There's gonna you know, so you have to
figure out ways to protect yourself but also still try
to be as authentic as you can to what your
life actually is. And it's it's a really thin line,
which is why I think social media is can be
dangerous with kids and why I mean I'm like, so
I could go on a full tangent, but I could
(11:49):
like snapchat is so frightening to me. Oh, that's probably
the worst for the worst. And everybody buying these, you know,
they think they're buying a xan X in the place
with Vente, Like I could on nestly go like the
amount of like the Rainbow Fenton al all these different things.
Like it's there's so many crimes now happening through social media,
(12:11):
and I think it's only going to get worse as
the exposure gets bigger. Um. So there is a trial
scept for Corey Walker, who did end up confessing. Yeah,
he confessed. Allegedly he confessed to the killing secretly and
recorded conversations with informants in jail. Wow, that's wild, like
(12:34):
the fact that you wonder is he bragging, you know,
who confesses to something like that. But you can only
imagine that the amount of fame that Pops Smoke has
posthumous Lee gained. So, I mean, he was always talented,
(12:55):
but sadly, a lot of the time talent is isn't
recognized until somebody's gone on. So allegedly, what the detectives
think is that it was a fifteen year old who
pulled the trigger. That is crazy. It was February and
I had my daughter February. That's that's what it was.
I was like, you'll if you ever decide you want
(13:18):
to have kids, like you will. There's this weird thing
that happens when you're pregnant where you honestly can like
black out full inform like information to protect yourself. And like,
I remember, this has absolutely nothing to do with me,
but I remember what when this happened, I like immediately
was like so scared for like my baby to come
(13:38):
into this world, that this is the world that we're
living in, and thinking about the pain that his mother
must feel. Oh, it's heartbreaking for something that like you
absolutely like you're like, could this have been avoided? Is
this a planned attack? Like your mind goes to the deepest,
darkest places out of out of fear. It really is.
(14:00):
It's crazy. And I mean, we don't own the house anymore,
but I was going to ask if you sold did
you sold it? Sell it? Shortly after we had it?
I mean it was always on the market for either
sale or rental um And then once this happened, we realized,
like we don't want to rent this house out for
short term anymore because people obviously are renting this as
(14:23):
a party house. It had an amazing view and you know,
like it wasn't like families were renting this house like
they're like a purpose. Yeah, they're like, we want to
rent this house to be in the Hollywood Hills and
come out like they can go to the club and
then come here and um, so we would put it
on the market, and it was it was information that
we shared with anybody that came to look at the property.
(14:46):
And and someone obviously bought it, obviously bought it and
they I mean, it's it sounds terrible to say, but
like because he didn't pass away in the home, we
passed away in the ambulance, there's like a different level
that you you rank a house that can be sold.
So but we still disclosed all the information that this crime.
(15:09):
I know there is actually real estate laws because I
was looking into getting my real estate license. Um, and
if there was a death inside your home, you you
legally have to disclose that. So I don't think you
legally have to in in your case, but I think
that's what they did. And it's like it's so public too.
Not only did we want to, and we worked with
you know, we worked with our friends at Farah over
(15:31):
at the agency, and she was like completely transparent with everybody,
and we were like, this is you know, where it happened,
and we just need you to know. And this was,
you know, our family home. We loved it, and it
breaks our hearts that this happened. You know, we still
haven't told our our kids because that like this is
where Slate and Crews were born. Oh, that is tricky
(15:53):
and they're so young still. Yeah, and they always went like,
can we drive by our first house? Like you know,
like do you remember your first house? And that like
takes some innocence. Yeah, And I'm like, are my my
stepdaughter she knows because she's old enough that like she
sees things on the internet and I remember when it happened.
She was actually at her mom's and she called and
she's like, what happened. Somebody at school told me this
(16:15):
happened at our house. Like she didn't know if we
were there or not either, and we're like, no, no,
it's the old house, Like it's not our house that
we all you know, um geez. He was a talented
young man and we I don't know. I just hope.
(16:36):
I hope at the end of the day, it's like
the biggest thing for me. And I don't know if
this is controversial to say or not, but like, I
just have such an issue with guns in general, like
for just especially with like your children should not be
able to get their hands on a gun year old
fift like absolutely not, like I and people were like,
you know, there's reasons that they I'm like, no, absolutely no,
(17:00):
I don't need my fifteen year old to learn to
shoot anything. I can say this. I don't know if
the same goes for you, but I will post that
I'm on a run somewhere on Ventura, like it's not
even blatantly obvious where I am, and within twenty minutes
there'll be yeah, I'll be heading back to my house
(17:24):
and then they'll be like five guys taking and I'm like, what,
how did they figure out where I am? And then
I'm like, then I realized I can't post my runs
in real time because they'll see something like as trivial
as like the McDonald's and know that I've passed that
on the because they know where I live. Oh gosh,
so people are crafty and they figured it out. I
(17:45):
mean there are even fans of the show that will
come to my gate and ring the bell and and
like do like bring me flowers or whatever, like being nice.
But it's still like this is my home, yeah, with
my children. So it's a very it's a very thin
line because of course you want to be kind and
you want to be grateful, but you also need to
(18:07):
set boundaries and say like this it is crossing mine.
So I guess like the number one thing people can
do is not post their location in real time at least. Yeah,
I mean, not post the location. I mean, and I
mean your house getting leaked is oh yeah crazy, Yeah
the house they did that to everybody, you know, like
(18:29):
everybody on the show is on the show. Everyone's like,
yeah they show the front of the house. Privacy issue too, yeah,
I mean, so it's people are like, oh, you signed
up for this, not that. Yeah, you're like didn't You
still have to. But I think also what people need
to remember is like it's still a television show. No
matter how real these shows are, It's not an open Yeah,
(18:53):
it's TV. It's not like an open invitation for anybody
that wants to swing by right a quick hour, turn
it on, turn it off. Yeah, but especially with the
with the burglaries, Like I mean, obviously with the pop smoke,
you know from what we know, that was a hit,
like that was planned. But for these for these burglaries
(19:14):
that have been going around, they are targeting people that
they think are out of town. So that's also scary
because even when you think about like the Derek Kimsley
breaking at her house, she was posting, not in real time,
she was posting she was in London when she was home,
(19:37):
so it's like you can't and they broke in then
because they thought she was out of town. Oh my gosh.
So what are you supposed to do that? That's quit
social media? Now, you put your alarm systems on. Yeah,
did you not have an alarm one? I to my
knowledge now, um, but you put your alarm systems on,
(19:57):
you come up with like you have a panic button,
you do all of those things, have a plan because
we don't know. I mean, it's to the point now
you can't walk around Beverly Hills and not have a plan.
It's it's getting crazy. You know. Beverly Hills used to
(20:25):
be this luxurious place where everybody wanted to wear their
biggest jewels, carry their all their birkins, do these things
like absolutely not now, like you don't wear your wedding
ring too way Yeah. Like it's there's huge, long lines
to get into all the stores, but nobody's buying anything.
It's like, what is happening. My husband owns a home
(20:48):
automation and security company, so that was one of the
things people, you know, the first thing they want to
do is be like, well, how did this happen in
the house that you own. I'm like, well, one, there
was no alarm on, there's no alarm set, there's no
cameras inside the house, like all of those things. But um,
he just said it's it's teddy, like, you have to
(21:11):
set the alarm. And I'm like, but if you're still
you haven't gotten home from work, I've to set the alarm.
He's like, yes, the sucking You get home with the kids,
you lock the door, and you set the alarm. And
I'm like, but then you have to come. He's like, Teddy, yes,
Like there's no like. But I grew up in a
different time, you know, I grew up in South Carolina.
Like we left. We never we let your front door
(21:31):
unlocked all the time. Yeah, Like it was like then,
you know, everybody's key was under the doormat. We're not
there anymore, No, I think that's so smart. Like always
have the alarm set. I always do most of the time,
and I have like an evacuate I tell my boyfriend
all the time if he's never home, I'm like, I
know exactly what I'm gonna do if someone breaks in.
I'm gonna jump off this and jump into that. In
(21:53):
my mind, I would do that, but I mean, I
it all depends on the person that breaks in, though,
because of what they're in. Tality is like what are
they there for? Are they there for cash? Are they
there for your items? Are they there to hurt you?
Like you just don't know? And I guess that's whatever
your mental state is when they arrive. As it's just
(22:15):
it's frightening to But I feel like you're in the
safest position with what your husband does. I mean, yeah,
I I am, as long as I follow all the
rules you know, to him, Yeah, as long as I
listened to him, I mean, because he I mean, there
are certain there's certain things that I've learned that I
didn't necessarily know because of you know, growing up in
(22:38):
a twelve mile long island. But like the higher up
in the hills you are, the more that a break
in is going to happen because it's further away from
like where people are driving, so it's more quiet and
people have more time to like get in and get out.
They're not going to do it at three am because
(22:59):
that's a suspicious time, So it's going to be more
like a ten pm because it seems more common that
someone comes inside and out of a house at ten
at three. If you're sleeping and you heard some banging around,
you might stir. That's actually really good to know. Yeah,
So it's like especially the further that you live from.
(23:19):
Like so even during my runs the other day, I
got like I had like a nervous feeling when I
was running, you know, and you like kind of look mind,
You're like there's someone there. And I called my husband.
I'm like, I put find my phone on, make sure
you're tracking me right now, and he's like, also are
you running? Like where are you running? And he's like,
one run right off the main street on a neighborhood
(23:40):
because that's where all the families are that are going
to look out and see you. If it's just complete
like strangers just zooming down the main road, they're not
going to probably notice. There are some crazy people in
this world. The That's what you have to remember, no
matter what you post, no matter what you do, no
matter what all that like, people will go to all
ends of the world to like some people are addicted
(24:03):
to it, addicted to the thrill of crime. I'm addicted
to watching it. I'm addicted to yeah, crime podcasts. I
don't watch the shows. I only listen to podcast because
I don't like to see their faces. But I am
a hold on. You don't have to see everybody's faces, Okay,
I can't. I'll have nightmares. But I don't have nightmares
if I just listen. I need to know every detail
(24:25):
about what somebody like you could be like my friend Jan,
and I'd be like, can I see Jan? I cannot
hear a story without getting a full visual like I
need to know. I cannot hear a story without knowing
a full physical breakdown. I don't know why, because I
have to imagine the entire crime or situation. That's what
freaks me out. I just want to know about it,
(24:46):
but I don't want to like envision it then it
makes it really don't really know what it is. Actually,
You're gonna have to go down so many more rabbit
holes and I'm excited to listen and tune in. Yeah,
thank you so much for coming on. I think this
was the longest one. We did get into a few
rabbit holes here. I can't I can't help myself from
(25:07):
wie off topic. Welcome to the c D life. Thank
you so much for coming on, and everyone can listen
to your podcast at two teas, in a pod on
I Heart Radio, or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Awesome,
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