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January 31, 2020 43 mins

Shajar, the Sultan’s chief wife, has taken something of value from the Hafiz, a drunk, self-pitying religious figure-head. Gregor, the Sultan's spymaster, is determined to find out what it is and what mischief she is planning. Marching with the army out to the provinces, reluctant soldier Madu, finds solace in an unlikely companion. Tumanbay is created by John Scott Dryden and Mike Walker. Visit tumanbay.com to see full credits and download scripts.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M. We know we had to do information. That's what

(00:27):
I want. This is vagaries. I'll see, excellency, where's your report?
I will have it by the sie. You'll have it now,
or you won't have a job or ahead. It's good
to be in charge. Power is about knowing what other
people don't. The street patrols have been increased as the
order of Excellency. I could use more men, four at least,

(00:49):
and make it so. We all want to build our empires,
and we all want to be in favor with the
Sultan because in the end, all power flows from him.
You go to the harem the gateway, there will be
a good ill waiting. Bring it to my rooms. Keep
it subtle, very good for questioning. Is this something you
find amusing? God? No, your excellency good Now, I have

(01:12):
an appointment with the Sultan. Get my sash of office,
Kalid Have you heard of your sash? Leave us? Have
you heard of the Hammad brothers? No? Sir? Should I instigate? No?
Never mind carry off? Yes? How can I help you?

(01:53):
You can't go. I'm here to see the Sultan. The
short time is not here? What do you mean where
is he? Well? I told you he's not here. I
had an appointment, and now you don't. The Sultan is

(02:13):
not happy with your progress, Gregor. He's a very busy
man matters of state. He doesn't have time to hear
about your failures and my appointment. You can report to me.
The Sultan directed me to search out spies. He will
wish to be kept informed of progress as far as
you are concerned, Excellency, today I stand for the Sultan

(02:40):
very well. I have found a number of low level
operatives in the kitchens the stables. They reveal very little
when put to the question because they know very little,
presumably exactly. The only high level spy we found so
far is the maid, and unfortunately she killed herself before
revealing any information. On the contrary, she revealed that Maya

(03:03):
has a cardra of spies. We are not afraid of death, indeed,
they welcome it. I think we've learned something important there
that she was prepared to die rather than face your
tender mercies. I think any rational being would take that course.
I hear that our honored physician has prepared you potions
to keep your subjects alive in an agony far beyond

(03:25):
any natural palace gossip no more than that. When I
say here, I mean I have listened to their screams
for days, echoing around that cellar you keep down there?
How you amuse yourself as your business Cardali As for
the rest, I am waiting and looking for the one
little thing that is out of place. I will lead

(03:45):
to a highly placed spy, the floor in the marble,
a crack in the wall that reveals the room beyond.
And so far the work is proceeding. M I understand
Lady shah Jar has a new maid, does she? I

(04:08):
think you must be losing your memory, excellency, you organized
it that one? Yes, yes, a recent purchase. She has
no palace loyalties, so unusual? Does she come up with anything?
Come up? When she's working for you? I can assure
it wasn't a question, and you can assure me of nothing.

(04:34):
Tuman B Episode four, Hidden Knowledge by Mike Walker. What
is it? Then? Just keep your mouth shutting full on

(04:55):
and keep your head done. But it's not an army.
There are no soldiers. Do you think some sort of caravan?
I don't know what it is. Stay here, keep quiet.
Do don't believe me. I'm coming with you. I'll be back.

(05:16):
Stay no it won't be left to do. Let me
God scream. Listen to me. I've been a slave once.
I'm not letting it happen again ever, Not on your account,

(05:37):
not on any account. Do you understand? H m hm,
I don't think there's anyone there. It's just a goat.
It's never just anything. Believe me? Why should I? Because

(05:59):
I'm even your useless life and we're going to die
out here unless we get food and water and some
horses or camels. Yes, all right, I'm going to get
into the caravan somehow and get what we need and
then I'll come back. It will probably be a while,
it will be dark. You'll have to wait alone. Can

(06:21):
you do that? How do I know you'll come back?
You'll have to trust me? Why should I? Because you're
still alive and not buried in some sandhole half a
day back? Give me something so I know you'll come back.
I was a slave. They took everything. I have nothing.

(06:42):
Promise you really are just a child. Didn't you just
say nothing is just anything and we'll be back. M
m m yeah, mm hmmm mm hmmmmmmm mmm mm hmmm

(07:20):
mm hmmm. Have you come to take me? What think back?
You the angel come to take me to paradise. No,
I'm lost. Do angels get lost? I'm not an angel?

(07:42):
I'm sorry? How did you get here? Then? I told
you stay back. I won't hurt you. Just stay back.
I was on a ship and then I wasn't and
then we came here to that coast of were there,
and then we walked and walked and can you help me?

(08:07):
I'm hungry and thirsty. Who are you? Where is your father?
Can I speak to him? Your mother? I don't have
a marvel father. I look after goats. Who for whoever
pays me? I can pay you. Look, I've got gold

(08:29):
and silver. All right? Come? Are you alone? Why do
you want to know? Who are you? What do you want? Where? Stop?
Stop it. He's gonna speak, he can breathe Leave him alone.

(08:53):
You can get us food and drink because you're not
going to kill him. Take your hand off his face
before he's upper kids. Yeah, it's all right. He won't
hurt you. I don't like him, me neither. I could
have saved your worthless life from him. Besides, you used
me as babe, didn't you. You were never going to

(09:14):
the caravan. You just waited to see who it was
following us. It's never just anything. Do you come from
over there? Do you stop it? He scared? Don't you
see he's a child, He's only a child. But I

(09:35):
could help you. I swear. You have to believe me.
I believe you. Leave him alone. It's a town, see,
with tents and temples and ends and everything, but it's moving.
That's where it does. That's how we live. We follow armies,

(09:56):
and after battles we use everything that's left. Do you use?
I told you everything. You see the smoke rising from
the tower, No, not the fire, smoke the other thick
and greasy. I've seen smoke like that before. It's from
the vats. They cook all the time, even on the move.

(10:19):
People world, they were people once winded down for fat
and glue and soap. We used it all. I'm liking
this less and less. It's better than the desert. We
have to eat and have a bath. Come on this

(10:43):
way along, head. If you're leading us into a trap,
boy leaving alone? How big is this intown? How big
is big? You would need a day and night to
walk all the way around. He walk away and here, holloa,

(11:13):
it's right down. Cages, Come big quiet, could you? I
won't tell you again. I put some friends. Friends, what friends?
Who are you? Who are you? We were shipwrecked, we

(11:33):
were going to Toman Bay. We were really hungry and thirsty.
Am I in innkeeper? Are your manner's reg These are
travelers guests, and guests are sacred to our kind? Are
we not all travelers through this world? Why? She's hardly
more than a childish little beauty? Calm, my sweet must

(11:55):
be tired and thirsty, calm, it's all right. A big
man running away from something here? You want to come in? Fine,
you don't, Fine, it's all right. I swear nothing's all right.

(12:17):
I swear yes, yes, everything is prepared this way. Here

(12:46):
she is, she's well, she's growing every day. Her eyes
can see properly. Now you see, I've kept my promise.
You work for me, and I will protect you and
your child. Mm hmm. She's hungry. My milk has dried up.
She has a witness, so she will stay with you.

(13:09):
She will be the hip by a word. Yes. In here,
ah as a whole world of knowledge in this room.

(13:32):
If a man knew half of it, one quarter, he'd
be wiser than any man of me. But then there's
not the time in a whole life to learn it.
But that is the thing, excellency. A man does not
need to know the answer, He only needs to know
where to go and find it exactly. And I come

(13:54):
to you, my friend, for the answer to my question. Yes,
the amide brothers. They have a workshop in the street
named the Poets. It's beyond the market under the temple walls.
Thank you. I have some business to attend to remember
your head on my slave still being here when I return.

(14:20):
H yes, hamide brothers, what do you want? I've been
sent by the Lady Shaja. May I come in? Mm hmmmm,

(14:47):
The lady Chang said, count in here. Oh he cannot understand.

(15:08):
You don't chew your brush medium thin, she said to you,
the lady. Yes, only we don't know you. I've never
seen you before, not from summer candor. Of course he's
not Look at him, Look at that coloring. You have
a nice coloring. Lord. Besides, she knows he's not finished.

(15:29):
Only last week when she came to inspect the work
last weekend. She wants a progress report. You have to understand,
we are artists. Art cannot be hurried. Oh, your mistress
might find a hundred mayor artisans would do the work
and promise paradise. But she is wise. Why she is

(15:50):
she knows for work of this quality, only the best
wild and if I may say so, had brothers, the
very best, every brush stroke, every in label, much the original.
It will be as if one becomes the other, and
there is no difference to such is our artistry. But

(16:10):
it takes time. Time the original is fresh, indeed, she
explained to me, And you will understand our care, the
need for time. But perhaps I think of such beauty
stuck in the paint. He wishes to see it round?

(16:34):
Whose he does? Brother? Who would not? It is a
wonder of the world. Shallotte I would be in your debt, gentlemen,
I won't be able to use that paint. Now, this
lap us in that terrible way. Studies. At least stop
the damn flight buzzing now, h you said earlier your

(17:14):
wife and daughter, mhm. The plague. They were coming to
tom and Bay. My daughter was to be married by ship,
a ship, a ship of death. Not one left to

(17:35):
tell the story. I watched it burn in the harbor.
The pire, all of this, the house, the library, my business,
it all means nothing. I discovered that for each of
us there is something, one thing that is more. No,

(17:56):
that is everything. For some it is their honor, for
others power. For me, it was my family, and I
didn't know it until I lost it. She'll be strong,
She's already beautiful. She has your eyes. Her father's too.

(18:20):
I'm sorry his eyes were full of lust. The heart
is a traitor. When I hold her in my arms,
I can feel the love flowing out of me. Shouldn't
I hate her? But I don't, my child. Perhaps you're

(18:44):
right about family and your brother. Yes, of course him too.
Life life has a way. I say my life is over,
and yet I get up and eat and do this
and do that, and life goes on, and I find
myself caught up by this and that, and I hate

(19:07):
myself for it. You're finished. Even I say your life
is over, You've said it's a thousand times. And yet
Iam is hungry, and Naima must be fed. Nima is hungry,
and Nima must be fed. Condition mm hmm, give me

(19:31):
the baby to all right. Sabena has taken good care, Gregor,
I'll go to him. Wait, do you trust him? Say nothing?

(19:55):
All his words of course two scrolls about so long? Oh,
definitely torn a little with texting. You have paper the library,
Make yourself ready to leave, Excellency, not a script I'm

(20:16):
familiar with, nor ancient. Certainly were their illuminations decorating the
margins symbols. Mostly you have an amazing memory of your excellency.
If these are accurate. They are, and I do you

(20:37):
should never forget that religious there the sickle moon, the
sun and stars. I'd say it was a creation story.

(20:57):
They are popular, I believe, amongst the ris h There
are many copies available, many of them very fine and
worked a lot, and the original who knows, lost in
time perhaps, But if it were real, if it will really, Excellency,

(21:18):
are we going now? Hurry? Don't worry. I will take
care of the child. She would be safe. Ah, Bob, bob, who?

(21:42):
Why aren't you eating? Not hungry? You're hungry? Leave me alone,
will you? You don't eat it tonight? You won't have
the strength to get through tomorrow. Why did you help

(22:03):
me back there? I didn't. I'd be dead if you
hadn't got me off the sand, because bloody births would
be picking my bones clean right now. It would be
Jackal's after dark. I was helping me. I wanted to
make my own mind up about something. I wanted to

(22:25):
be in control. Well, thank you anyway, And mother Daniel
good blue eyes. That's unusual around here from the north.

(22:47):
H yes, And how did you come to be here?
Things happened? I don't mean to pry, then, don't you
weren't always a slave? No, I was born a freeman.

(23:07):
And and what what are you doing here? How did
you become a slave? I was traveling home from some
money in Amber robins, so so nothing, just curious. He said,
you didn't want to pry or don't then don't m

(23:31):
what are they putting these rations? It's best not to ask.
Someone makes money out of it. The general no one,
I don't think so. He's a hard bastard, but I
trust him. I'm just gonna put my hand in a
bag of snakes. So you know, Maya, you've seen her?

(23:57):
Mm hmm. Amber is where she comes from, isn't it.
I don't have to ask that. What was she like? Maya?
The grim, the fearsome, she's like. I didn't really see her.

(24:17):
M and don't believe you? Oh with boy as far
as taken yes, by us. I wasn't talking to you,
blue eyes. What are you doing here? Boy? You're not
soldier and he's from the court a spire. Leave him alone?

(24:39):
Where are you his father? Huh? Suit each other? Blue
Eyes and a little weasel from the balace. You're reporting
on us, shorty? Huh? Run off back to the general,
do you? Yeah? Don't the hell you bastard. I'm going

(25:00):
to enjoy this. You like? Describe him along enough? Stop?
Stop it? What happened here? You blue eyes? He started this?

(25:25):
Even the boy does a damn lie? Shut your mouth?
Is that true? He's troubled up? One, sergeant, bloody blue eyes?
Blue eyes, I knew you should not be trusted. Bring
them to the lock up, sergeant. It wasn't like silence,
no fighting in the camp. Save it for the enemy.

(25:52):
You better not touch me. Don't we trouble. I can
promise you that. Just be quiet and not to let
them do what they have to. You should listened to
your friend. You can't. They can and they will write
a couple of right. Yes, my ladys, what does that

(26:32):
fatcinate want at this time? I wanda what's wrong with you?
I've been clumsy all afternoon I'm sorry, modam, it's slipped.
Have you been crying? No, Madam, let me tell you
tears are a waste of water. I'll send him in greetings. Lady,
forgive my intrusion. I happened to find some amber grease

(26:56):
and hearing you were short short, I don't think so. No,
my lady, I thought your steward mentioned something, But no matter.
Let me present you with this anyway. It is particularly fine,
I'm told, very good. Give it to the girl. Don't
drop it, my dear. It might mean a trip to

(27:18):
the market to replace it. Do you allow your slaves
to leave the palace? Madam? What's that to you? Mm hmm.
But of course I haven't come just to deliver bath oil.
Mad How is the young man getting along in his
new career. I didn't know you were so interested in

(27:39):
his welfare. I'm interesting in everyone's welfare. Then, I'm sure
you will be happy to know that my son is
learning many valuable lessons that will stand him in good
stead in time. Sorry I interrupting, Come, excellency. It is
usually considered good manners to ask the permission of the
chief wife before entering the harem. I will turn when

(28:00):
you are finished. I believe we are finished? Is heer?
Are we not? For now? Madam excellency, I will leave
you to your conversation. M So what is your business? Gregor?

(28:21):
My business is catching spies? As you know. Well, then
you can't be wanting anything here. Your last maid was
a spy, and do you think the new one is also?
Do you want to put her to the torture too?
May come to that? May I sit down? I think not.
I prefer you standing as you wish. But your previous maid,

(28:45):
when I was questioning her before she killed herself something,
she said, go on, Sarah, look at me. Why won't
you look at me? You know why, Gregor? I could
serve you if you've let me. I don't know you

(29:07):
look at me. I don't know you, but we I
can't forget this. I am the first wife, Oh Sarah
showboat for his excellency. His excellency will not be staying.

(29:28):
It was about the half fees. What why I'm here,
the maid the spy in your service. I am hardly
responsible for whatever rubbish fear draws out of your victims. Gregor.
When the halfst came here? Where did he come from?
You know very well where he came from, and after
leaving there he traveled through Gabrielle. So I believe is
there any point of this? Or are you merely engaging

(29:48):
in a geography lesson? He was desperate, relying on the
generosity of strangers by the time he got here and
placed himself under your protection. I ask again, is there
any point to this? What would you call it? Sarah?
You're an intelligent girl. What do you think Gregor wants?
I I would not presume to know, madam exactly, and

(30:12):
neither would I just questions, Madam. I merely need to
update my records. I never really saw you as a bookkeeper, Sarah.
You may show his excellency out. It's all right, I
know my way. Oh and I imagine you would have
no objection to me seeing the Hafees for my records,

(30:33):
given that he's under your protection. I I suppose not.
Thank you. You might put your sign on this for me,
unless for some reason give it to me. Thank you?

(30:57):
Can you believe it? I once thought that man desire
of do you, madam? I think him desirable? Those swarthy looks,
the dashing man are the eyes they say women love
cruel eyes. I do not like cruelty. Interesting, I wonder

(31:21):
if that's the first real thing I've ever heard you say.
If you do not like cruelty, then stay away from
that man. Even the things he professes to love and
cherish will feel the lash of his last sooner or
later sooner classed the scorpion to your breast. Mm hm

(31:47):
h m h m hmm. These are from the zach
Lul Plains. The high orchards live well here, many prosper
in the town. There are always opportunities. And the cages
outside the dogs what are they for armies? The dog's

(32:12):
bread for war? I trendgic traps them and breats them
ship fighters, strong muscle and teeth, very elegant and bread
for one thing here drinking it's good wine from the mountains.

(32:32):
Mm hmmm mm hmm. Oh it is good. The dogs
will fetch a fine price when the battle begins. Battle
for two Monday at the pack of my dogs loosing
the town, and you'll soon see the blood flow. Will
there really be a battle? Who knows? It's men's business,

(32:52):
is what I say? And not for such pretty years
as yours. What's your name? Heaven? Heaven, m so heaven?
Where have you come from. My father was a merchant there,

(33:15):
and then he moved to today to start a business.
I was to be married to someone. I'm sure he'll
be safe. Today is finished. Everyone knows it, and its
inhabitants will be marched out into the desert and massacret
You're a cheery soul. They have grown fat and lazy.
To listen to him, dear, he's angry. Why angry? That's

(33:37):
just his character? And how did you get here? Never mind?
So you do have a voice. You train your slave
to answer when he's spoken to. He's not my slave,
and your father is a merchant. Into Monday. All we
want to a few supplies, maybe a camel we can pay.

(34:01):
We won't bother you. We will be happy to help.
But now you are tired, we will let you sleep.
We can find birds for ourselves. No, you're not throwing
this poor child out into the night. It is our duty.
Damn the women. I think they rule the world. We'll

(34:22):
have it your own way. We'll talk in the morning.
I'll see someone about the camel boy. Come with me. Come,
I will show you where you can sleep. Thank you here, please,

(34:49):
it is quite safe, certainly safer than out there. Everyone
knows Rajik stalks, and no one would risk their jaws.
Thank you. You're pretty, aren't you? Heaven very pretty? Mm
hm ah. You talked too much. I'm tired. I'm going

(35:19):
to sleep now. We have to leave. Why I don't
trust them? There are kind of people in the world,
you know. I've heard of them, but I've never met them.
You've been a sleep too long, You've been a pampered
bread too long. We have to go, you go. I'm
going to sleep. Are you going to sleep? At least

(35:51):
in the prison card We won't have to march anymore,
and we won't be harassed by these these brutes. Have
you ever been flogged? No? I have, and you won't
like it. If it won't come to that, why not
General cool On? I know him. Once I get a

(36:13):
chance to speak to him, I'll sort it all out.
We'll get out of here. Better be right, because if
you're not, yeah, show me there he is, General General
General Coolon over here. I do well. Have you learned
anything useful yet? Tonight? We were beaten the watch yes,

(36:36):
I can see. Well, well, what will you please? Just
get me out of here? Jargon commander please two fighting
at the gamps come under punishment as for regulations, fifty
lashes each, very good? Carry on? No, no, no, no, no,

(36:57):
you can't. My mother will hear about the You knows
she will, and when she does, she will have you
went through the streets of tuman Bay. Is for the
shake of your mother that I will answer that outburst,
young man. Your mother knows exactly where you are, exactly
what happened to you, And when she hears about the
fifty lashes you will receive, she will be content that
her plans are being carried out as she would wish

(37:21):
you sent for me when they are ready for punishment.
So got any more to say? Nothing to say? Sergeant?
Is that game ready? Yes? Sergeant? Yet the robes? Yes? Sergeant?
So who are you? I am the son of Shaja,

(37:47):
the chief wife. He can't do this to me. He
be harms me my mother. Okay, not my mother, but
my uncle, the Sultan. Wilson. Do you think they would
have sent you here if you mattered? You really need
to get this in your head. Anybody can do anything
to anyone in this world. Oh no, no, strap him up?

(38:24):
Do you think that will help? Just wasting water? What
can I do. I can't. I can't tell him. Tell
him I no, Maia, I was brought up in Amber.
Tell him I can help him, is it? Do you
tell him? Sergeant? Lady, command out, carry on fighting in

(38:48):
the ranks, fifty lass age begin. General, you asked me
if I had learned anything from my experience. Yes, this
man my friend. Yes, he grew up in Amber province.
He knows Maya's court, he knows her world, he's he's
met her, he knows how she thinks. Is this true?

(39:10):
I swear it is. I hope it is. Let him
speak for himself. Is this true? It is? General? You
know something of the way Mayer's people fight? Yes, I
do well. You know Alamott a fortress, I know of it.

(39:32):
Shortly after her husband died and she took power a
prince from the plains, people decided to lay siege to
the castle. After all, what was Maya but a weak woman.
She invited him in under the flag of truce and
took him up onto the walls. There was a company

(39:54):
of guards escorting the party, twenty men. She told them
to walk off the walls. They did so, everyone without
a murmur, and fell to their deaths on the rocks.
The prince left, raised the siege and went home to

(40:15):
the plains. She fought off an invasion at the cost
of twenty men. With loyalty like that, you could rule
the world. Is it her they follow or some belief?
It's complicated. Sir got him down. Bring him to my tent.

(40:38):
I got him not again? And my friend, what about him?
Bring him to what you should he to me? I
won't help you unless he comes to you will if
I'm on you too? Maybe I should have had you whipped,

(41:01):
after all. I believe in loyalty, general loyalty, all right,
bring them both loyalty. My brother always placed great reliance

(41:23):
upon it, both giving and receiving it. Me I prefer fear.
It's cleaner and sharper, and if you need to cut
with it far more efficient. I can't. I can't. What

(41:44):
do you want you have? Why isn't safe? What is
it now? You have to come now, double back soon?
But the others isn't safe for you? Why? What? What
do you mean? Boy? There isn't time. They mean you harm?
They want sorry to the others. The body man all right,

(42:04):
come on, God, h this way through here, No break them.

(42:29):
I'll kill your boy, I'll kill you. Oh. Once they
have you, they'll never let you go. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

(42:52):
Episode four of tuman Bay, Hidden Knowledge, featuring Rufus Wright,
Olivia Popka, Matthew marsh and Rod Rawi, was written by
Mike Walker, with music by Sasha Putnam and editing and
sound design by Steve Bond. Tuman Bay is directed by
Me John Scott Dryden and created by Me and Mike Walker,

(43:13):
and produced by Emmahern and Nadir Khan. For more details,
including a castle list, visit tuman bay dot com
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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