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February 13, 2023 48 mins

Grab your iced coffee in a wine glass and sit down with Margaret Josephs!! 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod with Teddy meloncats and camera judge. Hey, guys,
it is camera with two teas in a pod. My
other tea is at a poor show right now, competing
and from a witioner. All the luck. But today we
have somebody that I like, a called friend Margaret Joseph

(00:24):
from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. What's going on?
What's going on now? I want to know. Do you
have your ice coffee and a wine glass ready to go? No?
I normally would, but you know what, I was a
little chili. Don't get Are you mad? I don't have
it today. Have a cup of tea. I wanted to
get my ice coffee, but I did the piggies, and
today I had a cup of tea. I just finished
a confessional. Can I ask you what you put in

(00:46):
your glamorous ice coffee? Yes? I always put some kind
of coffee me. I normally put in my Snickers creamer creamer. No,
I know, fattening ship. Wow. I just want to say,
shares from one ship store to another. I right, maybe

(01:07):
we always have strong arms. That's right, That's what I said.
I listened to your podcast last night. Oh thank you.
I love it. I'm so good love it is it
mostly about advice, business things like that. That's the one
I listened to. Yes, mostly business advice. And you know

(01:28):
what you do what you do so perfectly. I would
never want to compete with someone is fabulous. But if
we could be half as successful as you all be happy.
Ah you're so sweet, but you're quite the powerhouse with
the pigtails. You have the Macbeth collection, candy tour, you
have your podcast, having our Dreams into an a Fish budget.
You also have your book and now you have and
you drink. Now I'm also coming out with the rank. Yeah,

(01:51):
so that's it's Yours is not alcoholic. Mine has TC
in it. So totally different. But we do have a
We do have a lot of things in common. After
we met night. We're so similar. I love it. Our
get along so well, which is ride Harley's um just
a lot. I I took my thing off, but I
fell off my motorcycle. Oh my god, that's terrible in

(02:14):
the driveway. I was in the driveway. Okay, least was
in the driveway. After five hours of writing, I'm in
the driveway. But anyways, my god, it's just sprained it's
not broken. But how what a pain in the asset
was for you to film with a broken bone? And
I've done it before. It sucks, I know, was it
Did you break? Did you hurt your wrist? I just yeah,
I sprained my wrist. Oh my god, that's the worst.

(02:36):
I know, that's what it was. I had my wrist broken.
That's terrible. But I love to ride your own motorcycle
because I have to get on the back of Joe's
two chicken shipped to ride my own. That's actually a
question I have for you. If you ride on the
back of the of Joe's motorcycle. No I don't, because yes,
I ride on the back. I won't write amount. I
have a pink helmet. I go right on the back.
I'll go for hours with him. He's been riding motorcycles

(02:58):
since he's like I swear, since he's wealth and you know,
he's old now, and I love to go with him.
I I really enjoy going on the back of the motorcycle.
It's great. We go even in the winter sometimes. You know,
he has the little heated seats in the whole nine
yards and the heated jacket, all the bullshit. I love it. Yeah,
Eddie is obsessed. I know we'll have to go to

(03:19):
We'll have to go together. When we went to dinner
in New York, um, they were sitting there talking about
Harley the entire time, exactly. You and I were dealing
with other stuff which we're not going to talk about.
But it was fine overall. It was a good dinner. Yes,
so it was a good dinner. Listen, we have you know.
It was the girls and the glamour gaze doing their
thing and the two men talking about the motorcycles exactly.

(03:41):
So are you done with the pigtails? Are you bringing
the pigtails back? Ever? Yes? You know I still wear them,
like on the weekend. I'll wear them sometimes for filming.
But you know I wear so many hairpieces. You and
I go to the same hairdresser when you're here in
New York, hair stylist, the Jewel l But you know,
I wear my hair so many different ways because I
feel like I'm always like in costume. I do the bob,

(04:03):
I do the ponytail, I wear my hair up. So
I still do wear them, but not exclusive. I'm not
exclusive to the pigtail. Have you ever gone dark with
your hair? Never? Me and you're blind. Never, we can't
do that. Camera where to be blond. I've been asked
so many times, would you go dark? No, I've got
different shades of blond, but never brunette. Never dark. Can't

(04:25):
do it. I know, I even have a tattoo, said
the blonde. I am not. I have a tattoo. Yes,
I have a few tattoos. And Joe had to tattoo. Yeah,
Joe says, has a tattoo that says love the blonde
you're with And I am definitely the blond. I mean,
he could be with you, he could be with me.
I've been thinking of getting a tattoo lately. I don't

(04:46):
know why. I mean, I had tattoos removed, and now
I'm thinking, at my old age, you know, maybe I
want one. They're very addictive. They're very addictive. I love
a good tattoo. Both my sons are covered in tattoos. Um. So,
we had a lot of fans reach out and asked
about your weight loss. What's amazing, And he seems secret

(05:08):
to it. Thank you. Yes, there's a lot of secrets
to it. It's funny. I was just talking about it.
I read an article in town and Country about this
doctor in the city. It's it's a wellness clinic. Um.
And the editor of Town and Country was like, the
guy couldn't get shredded. He was middle aged. She worked
out all the time. This guy did peptide therapy. I
was like, what the hell is a peptide? But I

(05:28):
said to Joe, I said, I have to go there
because listen, menopausal, I couldn't do ship right. Yeah. So
I was reading on a hormone replacement. But this guy
does the pellets. So I went and got the hormone pellets. Um.
I went in right away, and then he was like,
he does all different kind of peptides. He does your
blood work. Um. So I am literally on three different

(05:51):
kinds of my own little cocktail of peptides. They are shocked. Um.
It is like one of them is like a g
LP one which not not to be can use with
those epics. No, well, listen, I ozempic is a brand
of a sema glue tide, which is a pep tide.
I'm not gonna say. Um it is some sort of
a version of one of them is a version of

(06:12):
a sema glue tide. But he does he does his
own mixture. One is for your muscle to maintain muscle masks.
One is for joints, whatever ails you. So his is
more like a wellness thing. So minds a big minds,
a big combination that I've been doing since April. So
I think a lot of people haven't seen me out
in the streets. So I think that's why it's such

(06:33):
a drastic change. It is twenty now, it's twenty two pounds.
I'm not gonna lose anymore. Um, are you do you
work out as well? I do a lot of I'll
do the peloton, I walk, I do things like that.
I'm not really I should be more like you would
be more of a gym person. Um, and I'm not.
But I do like walking, peloton and things like that.

(06:56):
As long as you're moving your body and doing something
you enjoy doing, it's it's perfect. Yes I do that,
So that that's really what it is. There was like
a series of things that that I did. I have
to ask you, how is Marge Senior? Today? Didn't do
we get to see a lot of her this season?
We see her on this season. I don't know as

(07:18):
much because we had a lot of the new girls,
you know, she's of course in my you know, in
my life on the shop. She's great. She's seventy six.
She has so much energy. She she runs the streets.
You know, I'm trying to find her someone good. Mark
Senior happens to be very liberal and very opinionated. If
you think I'm opinionated, she makes me look wild. So
she you know, she's a bossy bitch with no filter.

(07:39):
But thank god, she's doing great. She's very healthy. Um
she you know, she just had a U t I,
so God knows she could be having sex. I don't know.
She teld me for antibiotics, so God knows what's going
on there. Um. Yeah, but she's doing great, thank you.
My mom is the same way. She's seventy two now,
but she she just loves the cameras to hear about

(08:00):
her sex life this year and all those things. And
it's just, yeah, I think our mothers are similar. I
mean we're just like, you know, you and I could
be definitely sisters. Yeah. So first episode aired, Um, I
thought it was great. Um, you guys got right into
the drama. There was no this was not a introduction
to who's who. This was like, let's go Jersey style. Um,

(08:23):
now you have a new friend that's on the show,
and yes, okay, you go by Jen or Jennifer. Because
we're trying to at the pod here, we're trying to
figure out who we're calling. Jenn Who were calling Jennifer?
Who doesn't get confusing. I would call her Jen. I
would call her jenn Okay, Teddy had at the opposite way. UM,
do you ever get concerned about bringing on a friend
to the show and how it can affect your friendship?

(08:47):
I you know, I it does cross on my mind,
but I didn't think you crossed my mind with her.
She's very normal, funny, not insecure, UM, just a regular person.
And I feel like if as long as we're our
authentic selves, I'm not gonna worry about it. I just
feel like we got to keep it real. And I
thought she would be a great fit. When I she

(09:07):
didn't even think about coming on the show, And I said,
you know what, I'm gonna refer you for the show,
just to come on because I think we're friends. You're hysterical.
She's like, I'm not doing you know, it's not and
she was like she was just perfect. She really is
just perfect. She seemed pretty opinionated outgoing. I really think
all the new girls, um, we're pretty opinionate outgoing. Now,

(09:29):
do you potentially see her as a housewife or do
you think she'll just be a friend of Is that
what she's happy with. I think she's very happy with
her role. She says she's fine, she's just a friend.
I think she'd be an amazing housewife. I think either
role is perfect for her. I think she's happy with
whatever happened. Um, she has a shoe company, so she

(09:49):
is a business. You know, she's a very full life
in general. Um, and the other two girls are pretty great. Also.
It's not like I madly love with both of them.
Obviously I love more than the it's obviously I love
more than I love more. You know, I get along
better with Rachel at this point than Danielle. But the
truth is, I think they've both been in seamlessly. Yeah. Now,

(10:11):
recently there's been a lot of things in the headlines.
Teresa recently said you should have never come to her
wedding if you were going to leave early. What is
your response to that and were you so? Do you
feel like you were supposed to stay there? A certain
amount of time and how long. I never knew there
was rules to stay at a wedding. Um I went
there to celebrate her marriage. I did go there. I

(10:32):
was very supportive of it, and I just I gave
her a generous gift. She cashed my check very quickly.
You know, I get an alert as soon as my
checks of cash anything over a certain amount of money.
Uh So she felt very comfortable taking my gift, and
she knew that I was very supportive of her marriage.
I stayed well through the cocktail hour. I was trying
to wait for her to come down to her you

(10:55):
know party, she was doing costume changes. I was waiting, waiting, waiting.
I just did feel comfortable dancing the whole night away
because I knew there was some bitter bitter sweetness with
Joe and Melissa. And you know what, even as happy
as I was for Teresa, it was also painful for
other you know, her other family members, and I was

(11:15):
just like, you know what, I'm just gonna go. I
celebrate her. It was beautiful and I did the best
for both parties. For her to say like I shouldn't
have been there, I'm not picking sides Melissa and Joe
didn't want me to pick sides about it. I wasn't
picking sides with Teresa. I did the best I could.
She also said, you went for a photo off. I
don't even know what photo op that even is. I mean,

(11:37):
I I get plenty, I'm in plenty of photos. I
didn't need that for a photo ofp I think it
would have been more pressed if I didn't attend, and
it would have been negative pressed, and that I wasn't
ready to bring any negativity towards her wedding, right, I
mean that's ridiculous. I mean that is the nonsense of
the century. I mean, I will say one other thing.
People made it on that list that she knew for

(11:59):
five minutes. I mean I didn't make it on that list. Well,
that's absolutely ridiculous, but she knew. Chanelle I on The Housewives,
Did you Buy managed to get to that wedding. It
was like a mini Brovo con. Yes, So cut me
a break. I know there's been so much going on
between Melissa and Um and Teresa. I mean to me,

(12:24):
I'm like, can they recover from this? Dolores recently said
that Teresa and jo should just part ways. Do you
agree with that? Do you think that it's time for them,
I mean their family, So it's hard. They're family. I think,
knowing you and I I have issues with my family,
You've had issues with your We all know how painful
that is. I think everything's fine to take a beat,

(12:47):
take a pause. You want nothing to happen forever, because
when this is all over said and John, who do
you have but your family? I think for now I
understand everything's got has stopped. They're both and not in
a good space if I hope, truthfully, I hope it's
not forever. I've said this to each of them individually.
The only people who could share the memories of their

(13:09):
parents is each other, and she can't have that with
anybody else. And I've said that's the same thing to
Joe and Melissa. But I think for now they cannot
be together. But I can't say forever. Yeah, I've spent
time with John, Melissa and Vegas recently so nice, fun
to be around. And then I also have spent time
with Teresa and Louis and at Brovocn and they were

(13:31):
nice and sweet. Like it's hard, it must be hard
for you to be in the middle. It is, it's
I think I'm so close to Joe, Melissa, and I
was always much closer with John Listen, but Teresa and
I started off beautifully. Teresa gets very upset with me,
very easily, and I think she's more of a grudge holder,

(13:52):
and I think that's what it is. I think it's
very hard for her to move on, and I'm hoping.
I was hoping she could, and right now that's not
going to happen. And I hope eventually things could change,
but right now it's I don't see a way through it.
Do you think it would hurt the show if one
of them left? Do I think I do. I do
think it would be a problem because they've been so

(14:14):
part of each other's lives. Theresa will always say it's
the Theresa Show. She's writing my coattails. You know, I've
seen some fans say that, well, what is Teresa had
if it wasn't talking about her family as well? She said,
she's given birth, she's buried, you know her parents. Well,
Joe's buried his parents and Melissa's buried her in law's.
They've had the same exact thing happened, and those things

(14:36):
that have happened in her life, no one wishes upon anybody. Well,
I think anytime you're on a show for that long,
you've you know, shared so much about you. Of course,
and of course it's hard to like pick and choose
like I like did this. It's like it's really no,
it's no tip for tat whatsoever. They both had amazing

(14:57):
things having the show. Melissa is created and beyond the show,
and she's still in business, you know, the things that
having a small businesses. But shi brick and order, that's
not that's nice. Not an easy gig for sure. No,
so they both had very big, abundant lives on this show.
Now do we see it get better with them this season?

(15:20):
You know, there there is, there's definitely they didn't even
start off, so you know they started. There's a lot
of happy moments, and that's the whole thing. There's a
lot of great highs. It's not a have some balance. Yeah,
we have some balance. It's a great season. I mean,
the best trip we've ever taken was on this season.
That the best show I've taken since I've been on

(15:40):
the show was on this season. The most fun we've
ever had. I think all of us did it. The
best trip people, I'll ever had, which is a lot
a lot of fun, thank God. Now going to the season,
you said Jennifer had it out for you, do you
think do you think she's contacted your ex friend Laura

(16:02):
or to Laura contact her. And by the way, Laura's
has been tweeted to me and Teddy about being on
the pod and that was a hard pass for us.
I know exactly talk about desperate and Thursday um parched.
I think Jennifer didn't contact her to start out with.
I don't think that happened at all. I'm gonna try
big dispreet Laura. I tried to get her on the

(16:22):
show for two seasons in a row. When I couldn't deliver.
I can only try and introduce my friends to the
best of my ability. I think she was very upset
with me, and then she contacted Jennifer and Theresa. Jennifer
and Theresa took the bait. You know, she was thinking
she could create some drama. But Jennifer obviously very upset

(16:44):
with me, still in contact with Laura. It's it's petty bullshit.
I could I've met bullshit games, But do you don't
you believe that that's the kind of ship that TV
brings out in people. I had something something like that
happened to me. I had some a friend that was
in my wedding and and I didn't invite him to
a party on camera, and then all of a sudden,
like he went behind my back and started contacting my enemies,

(17:06):
and you know, and it's it's very hurtful. It is
very I think I think it's a sign of insecurity, desperation, jealousy,
and you know, and and to for anybody to say
anything else, it's not true. Nobody does that. Someone who's
a part of your life and is there for your
celebrations and then they get upset with you. They're going

(17:29):
to go to the people who dislike you the most,
of course, spread to spread rumors and do these things
and just say it's like, well, I'm going to show
who she really is. Well, if I was so horrible,
you wouldn't have been up my as for that many years. Yeah,
I agree. The season premier, you sit down with Tersa,
You and Joe go to her house to go as

(17:50):
you expected, And did Joe want to go? Did he
have to convince you to go? You know, I was
surprised that she invited me over so quickly. I was
after the reunion, it was very, very bad, and I
was like, I don't even know how we're going to
get back together. But at the roller skating party, she
had come right over to me, and I was like,
oh my god, she's gonna lure me over, bury me

(18:10):
in the backyard. I didn't know what was gonna happen.
And yeah, so I was like, don't worry, We're going
to go over there. Already had my broken arm. She
knows I'd like to eat. She offered me some cheese.
I showed up and Chase right offered me some cheese.
I'm showing up. So we I had gone over there,

(18:31):
and I think Louis was encouraging her. I at first
I was like, are you doing this for Louie. I
was very candid with her. I believed in her sincerity
that she wanted to make up. She texted me I
am sincere. She was going to therapy. I think it
really started off on the right foot. I I did
you know, and everyone's like, you take her back? So
I seemed skeptical first. I was like, baby steps, and

(18:52):
she seemed very sincere that she wanted to move it forward.
How long is this truce last between the two of you? Um,
I thought it lasted most a long time, through the
you know, through the wedding. I think I've had I
had some deep heart to hearts with her and everything else.
I think things get misconstrued. She's one thing with Teresa,

(19:13):
she could say what she wants. She is easily influenced.
Whoever is in front of her influences her. Yeah, do
we actually get to see a new Teresa? Does she
start reacting again? Do the therapy? I think it does work.
I think in certain instances it does work. But I
think in other instances, you know, her Champer does Blaire.

(19:34):
I know, I'm sorry. I like watching Teresa because I
like to see her react, so I, you know, kind
of wish it. Hope it doesn't help her. Of course,
of course, listen, she's known for those moments. Yeah. Do
you think Louise is good for her? I think he is.

(19:54):
I think he tries to get her to see a
different perspective. And you know, Timilta, I do think you know,
right now, it doesn't look so. I think they're both
very upset right now. But by choosing your words wisely
right now, I'm choosing my words very wisely. I think,

(20:16):
you know what. I think they're very happy together. I
think being you know, starting a marriage on a reality
series is not easy, and being on you know what
it is in the public eye. You and Eddie did it,
but you have a very strong foundation, you know what
it's like. It's hard. Yeah, I mean we didn't. We
haven't really had any struggles like that. But you've been lucky.

(20:38):
You've been I've been lucky, totally lucky. And Eddie's a
different type of person and you're you know, you're two
different people. Joe and I are two different people. Well,
and he's not really into the limelight where he's like
has to be, you know, on camera he's the man,
but yes, he's the man behind the woman. And this
is a different scenario. Speaking of man, there's a new

(21:00):
man in Dolores's life, Polly. Yes. Do you like Polly?
Is he good for Dolores? Yes? I think Pauli's very charming.
He really he really loves Dolores. H He's a little
pot of gold. Um I rismond. I love that he
has a brobue. He's you know what, he he seems great.

(21:21):
Everything's good with them, and she's very very happy. I mean,
it's different to see Dolores in such a serious relationship.
I see a different Dolores. It's kind of funny. I
I get a big kick out of it. Do you
think Frank is jealous? I don't think he's jealous. As
much as their relationship has changed, you know, it was more,

(21:42):
but it was everybody like one big happy family. But
I think it's, you know, it's just different. I think
they relied on each other for different things. Brittany. Frank
has Brittany, who is great. But Brittany was very close
with Dolores. And I think, you know, Pauli's a different
kind of guy. It's like, you know, I don't want
to who's hanging out with your ex husband? So I
think that's probably harder for Frank because you know, David

(22:03):
loved Frank being around. Do you do you see Frank's
girlfrid Brittany becoming a cast member on the show. I
Brittany is a little dog. Joe and I had dinner
with Frank and Brittany often. I would love to have
her around more frequently. She's adorable, She's so sweet. Um,
I would love to have her room. She's actually very

(22:24):
good friends at Rachel another another another young one, which
I know people born in people born in the nineties,
people born in the nineties. I have kids older than that.
Um yeah, do you like having I know, do you
like having younger housewives or even as if you were
you watch other franchises. I like My Housewife season. I

(22:46):
like Thank You with older kids. I personally, I don't
want to see little kids on camera. I mean unless
they're flipping the camera off. I love that. That was great,
you know, you know it's funny. I also love a
season how say. I like people who have had a
big life under their belts because it's it's more interesting.
People have had life experience. I'm very much like you, Tam.

(23:09):
Rachel has a very young mother, old soul. She adopted
her uh you know, she was in the process of
adopting her stepson, so she's an older stepson. So she's
had a very big life. So I think they did
a good picking with her because she's she's very mature.
She's very mature. And I talked to Teddy about that
on our last podcast. I said, you know, it could

(23:30):
be that she because she has a teenage son. Right, yes, exactly,
So she really joined early and she's had some experiences
under her belts, so that's good, that's really yes. Yeah,
you need somebody who's had a full life, who has
lived a life, not somebody who's you know, hasn't had
life experience, because that's very hard for everywhere relate to.

(23:51):
That's also what makes it interesting. But I think like
you get a little older, you've had a life, You've
been around the block. There's a lot more discussed, a
lot more act. Yeah, another question, do you like your
house twice married or do you like to like them married?
I don't. I could take them either way. I could
take I could take them divorced, single married. You know,
I think they should have been married before I had

(24:12):
serious relations for But I could take them anyway. You
have so many that have actually gotten divorced on camera
and are still like Channon the Door she was married,
got divorced still on the show, Like, I totally get that.
But exactly as long as thing of juicy stories and
a fun task, I'll take them anyway I can get them. Yeah,
the cast seems really split, it really does, and between
like do you feel like you have to support one thing.

(24:35):
We talked about this a little bit earlier. Do you
feel like you have to support Melissa and Teresa? Do
you are you pushed to one side more than the other? Um?
I say, like people want to say what side are
you on? But you don't really have to pick sides
at this stage, right, No. I think I just say
whatever I feel and what I think is right. If
I just happen to think Melissa's right, I say it.

(24:57):
If I if I am more with always us, it's
because I do feel like what she's saying is valid.
I mean, are if we align more that just happens
to be in our thought process, that that's just the
way we think. Is there any surprise relationship ships to
the season that we'll see. I don't think people realize
how close Delorris and I are, And I think Dolores
and I have a lot of the same um values

(25:20):
and we think a lot, And I don't think people
realize that as much, even though and I think she's
also that way too, even though I think because she's
a history of Theresa and her Theresa are so close,
she's also very close with me. We speak on the
phone every day. And I think that people will see
that more that we have a very good relationship. Yeah,
were you shocked that Jackie got demoted? I was I shocked,

(25:42):
you know, I was just I felt bad. But she's
just part of the mix as much as she always
is is. She's very prevalent, she comes on our trips.
She's still just as opinionated. I think Jackie also take
a step back. She shared a lot about her health.
She wanted to work on her health, get healthy, feel good.
That was a big deal. I think, you know, people

(26:04):
probably didn't realize she really needed to recover from that
eating disorder and work on her health herself. And I
think that's and she got to do that, and she
looks amazing, feels amazing. So I was happy that she
could take is she doing she? Is she doing better now? Yeah,
she's doing so much better. I mean you could just
see on her ice. I told her, you know, I

(26:25):
think when you're in it, you don't realize it. And
we've always known her, um, you know, being feeling that
way and being so thin, and because she was the
way she talked about her eating, like she was always
thinking about food and those things. And if I picked
up on a little you'd never wanted to say anything,
but now she just looks like so healthy, so vibrant,

(26:46):
feels so good. She does. She looks incredible and she
does look very healthy. Yeah, and she's a different vibrant Jackie.
So it's I think she needed to take a little
step back now. I was shocked to know that the
new Housewife Danielle has a connection to Caroline Manzo. I know,
I know crazy right now. And you had said previously
you never met Caroline. Have you met her? Yes? Now.

(27:08):
I met her at Bravo Con and we always like
would like each other's comments or whatever was. And I
always thought she was such a strong woman, and I
thought she was very funny, you know, just like no,
no bullshit. And then I met her Bravo Con and
she was so excited to chat with Joe and I
and we loved meeting her and it was great. I mean,
she wasn't even live that far away from me, so

(27:29):
it was really nice to catch up and and bond
with her at Bravo Con. And it was funny that
she was related to Danielle somehow through marriage. I don't
know if Danielle's extep mother, I don't know. Some weird
married to her brother or something, some fo cocta thing. Yeah. Yeah,
and then isn't Dolora's friends with Caroline as well? Dolores

(27:49):
is very close with Caroline. They're very close friends. Could
you see her returning to the show. I couldn't listen.
I could. I think we should do great. I think
she would seamless again, fit it right in because she's
so close to Dolores. I get along with her, Melissa
gets along with her. I could see her making a
cop you know, there was Ultimate girls trip. Sometimes that

(28:09):
revive your career on the Housewives. Yes, it's true, it does,
it does it does? I mean, look, well you were
you were much needed. Oh thank you. I got yelled
at Heather dobro Is mad because I said it was boring. Okay, yes,
that's actually in my rundown. You had said that the
Real Houses of Orange County is the one of the

(28:30):
worst franchises while they asked me. But that was before
you got back. We needed a little more excitement, We
just needed a little lot. It wasn't it wasn't that
interesting at that point. I felt I felt it. I
loved all the ladies, but it just nothing was going on.
They had a rough two years, for sure, they did
have a rough two years. I think they just needed me.

(28:52):
You needed to come back, You needed and what am
I gonna say? I mean they needed you to come back.
I think it wasn't you know. It takes a while
to get the sauce right right, the right mix, the
right mix of spice. Well. I think that whenever you
remove the cast member that's been on the show for
so many years, it puts a different dynamic in there.
And we talked about that with Melissa and Teresa. If

(29:13):
one was removed, it would one of them would be
definitely missed from the show. It would be missed, you know.
And I think people don't realize that, and people called, come,
you know, canceled this one, canceled that one. We've had
a solid cast up until this year. We haven't changed
the cast. Was it for four years and we've done great.
Now we've added cast members. It's great. They fit in fabulously,

(29:39):
And that's what I like about it. If it works,
don't try to fix it. People like the dust and
us girls. They've watched us throughout the years and you're
bringing a new one. It's like, all geez, now I
gotta get to know this one exactly. And there's and
there's so much going on. I think people are sick
of that. The truth. What has to happen is they

(30:00):
no one wants to hear them fighting anymore. And the
and the bullshit and the old stuff. That's got to stop. Yeah,
I agree. Now you have your friend Danielle. I have
to ask you about another Danielle, Danielle Stobs. Did you
ever actually work with her? Yeah? Yeah, I came when
I first came out. No, when she I came on
the show with her. That's I pushed Marty in the pool.

(30:22):
But that's but and I was in her wedding. I
came my rookie season. Danielle came on as a friend.
She can't She made her comeback as a friend, and
I really bonded coming back to me, it's coming back.
I really. This sick thing is I really cared about Danielle.
I actually had a very soft spot for her, and
I cared for her. You know, I've heard a lot

(30:44):
of people say that that that know her. I really
I really did care for her. She uh flipped a switch.
Um and that was unfortunate. That was said. I think
like you, Tama. I'm brutally honest. I say the way
it is, just like when you had that thing with
Vicky and Brooks and you just say the way it is.
And I said to her, and this is really truly.

(31:06):
I was like, you're gonna up your life. You gotta
work it out with this guy. I don't like the
way you're treating Marty's kids. This is your real life.
You're gonna ruin it. She's like, you're trying to ruin
my marriage. I go, I'm not trying to ruin your marriage.
I'm trying to make it work. I'm like, cameras, no cameras.
I'm like, you fix this. I'm like, you know, if
you need a sugar, dad, and you give sugar and

(31:27):
that that's simple. Don't get up. And she was trying
to turn Marty against this this that. I was like,
I'm not playing this game. I told you that's what
And everything I said came true. I mean, Qualmie psychic.
But it'll all happened. The marriage fell apart right after
we got done filming all that stuff. I have that
intuition as well. You know, when Vicky was dating Brooks,

(31:48):
I knew right away not good for her. I also knew,
and it got really bad and between her and I.
And then when she was dating Steve, I knew he
is not the guy for her. I got it, and
I had to stay quiet because I learned my lesson
from the Brooks Days and I didn't want to piss
her off. And I figured, you know what, at this point,

(32:08):
she's she has to live it. She's gotta she's gotta
figure it out herself, because no matter what I say,
she's not going to Exactly. I thought Marty was good
for Danielle, and then she got in his head saying,
you know, Margaret's not good to us. This that she
says this. And then Joe and I had a fight
with Marty. I pushed him in the pool, and then
Joe and Marty made up. And now we now we
still talked to that. Now we still talked to him

(32:29):
and his new girlfriend. Oh how crazy crazy? Okay, So
we both have sons that don't want to film. Yes,
now my son is like mom, he did, but it's
not really his thing. He's really shy. Is that the
same with your son or is he in a career
that it doesn't My son is in a career all
my kids were. He's in a career that's very that's

(32:51):
very serious, and he does not like the spotlight. He
doesn't have social media. He wasn't interested in it, and
he is just like, this isn't my life. I don't
want to do this. Yeah, when I first exactly had
my son us exactly and he wanted nothing to do
with it, everyone's like, your kids hate you. All that
which we are. He's my biological song. We are very close.

(33:14):
We are together all the time, we spend he was
my you know, he's my son with my ex husband
who passed away. We're I had to shive ahead my home.
We are all bonded. My oldest, my oldest step son
who's forty seven, Brett. I do speak about it. He
has filmed with me. We are very close. He's from

(33:35):
my first marriage, UM, my other two kids, the death
of my ex husband, my oldest, my middle steps on.
You know, we were much better. You know, we're in
a much better place. My stepdaughter and I not so good,
but everybody else, all my boys great, which makes me happy.
Joe has two kids. They're amazing. So I have a
very very full family that we're to have a family

(33:58):
despite what J but I just they don't and we're
always together. We traveled together, we have holidays. But everybody
hates the camera. There's we're so t m I they
want no part of it. Yeah, yeah, no, I I
totally get that. And the worst thing you can do
is try to force your kid. Just do it, but
just do it like I'm like you you. I very

(34:19):
rarely post about my children on social media. Yeah they
would have they would, yeah, they would hit the roof.
I could post about Brett because he doesn't mind it,
but everybody else is like yeah they Honestly, it's something
because I don't want to. It's that, you know, kids
get to a certain age you're like, mom, don't put
me on social media. You know, my daughter is seventeen,

(34:40):
and she's like, as soon as you post a picture
of me, people hunt me down. And I get she's private,
she gets all these friends requests, She's like no. And
then one time I posted a picture for her birthday
a few years back, and somebody had wrote in the comments,
which I rarely read the comments, oh you're gonna get
her nose fixed? And then after that I said, I
ain't do no more. People people get right in there

(35:03):
and didn't ask for this, and we we did, and
it's there. It's not their choice. And I think we
have big enough personalities to do it without our kids.
That's what I say. I will say that my daughter
Socia will films September and she will film next year.
So she hasn't filmed all this time because of the

(35:24):
fact her dad would not sign for her. Oh that's
like Brett Listen. Brett, my stepson's almost as old at seven.
He finally just got engaged. I mean he'll film his
FIANCEOU like I could have them on. I have Alexei,
thank god, Lexi has a little son. Lexi lives in
my guesthouse because she's getting divorced. I might you know
Marliney my mother. So it's like I have my kids
to characters, so we're good too. Yeah. Is there anything

(35:48):
I know our times right now? Is there anything for
this season? I got you in trouble, but anything you
can tease. I'm trying to think what else I could tease?
Does anything crazy happen in Ireland? I'm trying to think.
You know what, It's just you guys went to Ireland.
We went to Ireland. One year it was one of us.
We went to Ireland trips, I know, and that was
one of the best trips you guys took. And that's

(36:10):
the best trip that we took. And I think people
are gonna be very happy with everything that goes on there.
But I think this season gonna I hate to say
that the season finale is like the cliffhanger and everything
culminates and every answer will be answered at the season finale,
and I think that's what it is. Oh my god,
what are you on to watch Happens Live? Um? Not

(36:32):
till I think Mark seventh. I'll keep you posted. I
have some rapid fire questions for you. Okay, biggest pot star,
I mean it might be me. I mean, being on

(36:53):
it might be, but be honest, I want to I
wouldn't say I wouldn't say the podstor I you mean,
I guess I'm a pot starber. I would say me,
but this year, not me. This year, i'd say it's Jennifer. Normally,
I was just gonna say normally, I would say me,
this year, it's Jennifer. I wouldn't say you're a part

(37:13):
pot stir as much as you a truth teller. Truth teller.
And that's how I like. Can people say like you're
a pot star, I'm like, if you're afraid of the truth,
then yeah, call me a pot That's what I say.
That's what I say. That's what keeps my arms in shape.
We stirred the pot. Biggest liar, the biggest liar. Um.

(37:34):
I would say, let me thank Jennifer. Okay, best fashion,
best fashion. People don't love my clothes, but I would
say me, I I have I have the most unique
sense of style. And I would say I like my clothing. You.
I mean, I like my clothes the best. You're in
the fashion industry. Yes, people people might people might not

(37:54):
understand it, but I mixed prints. It's high end. I
mean I like what I wear. Okay, I might know
the answer this worst fashion. Oh my god. I feel
guilty saying Jennifer constantly, but I just can't. I I
just I called her disheveled this year. Okay, Well, I
was going off the interview looks, Oh, Danielle, then it's Danielle.

(38:18):
Then it's Danielle. Daniel That. Then if it's not the
interview looks, then it's daniel You know what I might
have to give Jennifer passed it's Danielle because it kind
of reminds me of early days of housewive, just more
like glosses and jeans, And we just sat in our
living room and yes, it's true, it's she just she's
a throwback. She's a she's a little bit of a throwback.

(38:41):
Nicest house, nicest house. Um, you know again, I don't.
Everybody has different taste. That's a that's a that's a
tough one. I mean Teresa's new home. I love the
inside of I love the inside of my house. I'm
a coop, you know what I mean. It's like and
if everybody's house to pick in, I would still pick

(39:02):
my house to live in. I live right by the city.
I love a house that's a hundred fourteen years old.
The inside of Melissa, the inside of Melissa's house is beautiful,
the brand new, and Teresa's landscaping is the best. Teresa
has the best backyard, hands down, beautiful, stunning. It's like
a country club. I will say that her backyard is
the best. My decord to me, you know, is I mean,

(39:27):
I'm a sony. It's very yours reminds of after being
in Blue Stone manor similar. Right, Yes, I am very
similar to a Dorindo when it comes to things like
that in Sony carpet and her. Yes, and I'm very
I'm very old world and I and I do like
a lot of prints. So I like my dicor style.

(39:48):
The inside of Melissa's house, they did do a great job.
And I love the insider house. It's very clean lines,
it's very hotel e chic. So I like that. So
there's like pieces of every you know, every sacs that
I love. Yeah, that that I love. I love the
tutor of my house. My windows are tremendous for an
old tutor and I and my location. I can't help

(40:10):
but I like big windows. Yeah. Who had the heart
of season? Melissa, Melissa hearty season. She's gonna recover, yes,
but it's painful. She gets it from every angle. Even
though I think they were trying to ruin me they day,
she was like they ruined you know they were. It
was painful for her. Okay, I gotta tell you, Jennifer

(40:33):
Aidan bugs a ship out of me. Shocker. I mean,
I mean now that voices she talks in when she's yelling,
is that her normal voice? Does she have have like
a TV voice, and it's it's I don't know what
she does, and you know at the point I that's
her drunk. I don't know. I just talk louder my,

(40:56):
you know, murda, you know me. I sound like an
old lady murder round when I yell. But I she
draw her and I just don't say I. I feel
the exact same way. Something about her gets under my skin.
I would never. I don't change my persona. I don't
morph into another human. Yeah, I mean, I think she

(41:16):
even bugs her husband and the way he looks for
sure with Bill. To me, Bill is a saint now
well more, I have another question. I forgot to ask you.
How hard was it to get Joe to go shirtless
and take pictures on the Harley? You know, it was
not as hard as you would think. I mean, I
think men aren't as insecure about their bodies as women, like,

(41:42):
even if they have a few pounds on them. I
think Joe is very confident as a man. He's like,
who cares if I have a little belly? That's pasta
who cares? He's and he knows. I'm mainly love them,
But it's very funny someone was like, Joe, stuck your
stomach and do this, do that. He was totally fine
with it. He feels very happy. On is hardly in
the way he looks and he's like, whatever it is,
maybe the photoshop me. He's hysterical. I've I've always said,

(42:05):
and I even told this that I feel like you're
Joe is the hottest husband on the show. Oh you
are so sweet things. I think just because he's just
a guy's guy, and he is such a good husband
and he's not douche in any way, and I feel
like he's just kind of really the overall package for sure.
Thank you so much. That makes me feel so good.

(42:26):
I love and you know what I and I am
saying this and if it doesn't make pocat, I said,
I was so happy to meet Eddie because you don't
get to know him on the show. And I said
to Julius and everything else, I was Joe and I
were like in love with him. He's so nurturing, caring,
not only be handsome, but he's humble and just all
these things and he's really the guy behind the woman

(42:48):
and I think people, you know, I was just so
impressed and it really was very impressed, and I think
we're both very blessed with great husbands. We are the
who are the men behind us? And I think that's
very It's a very quality. Yeah. I mean, I truly
believe God gave me Eddie because he just has taught
me so much and he is so nurturing. Like we've
done interviews on TV and the host of said, oh

(43:09):
my god, I just feel like I just want to
sit down listen to your talk because you're so nurturing.
Like he has that like that, I don't know that
charm about him where he wants to teach people and
help people. I don't have that, no, he Yeah, but
I also feel like, you know, he's very caretaking of
you and wants good things for you. And that's the
way I feel about Joe. Also, it's like he did

(43:31):
they never want to steal our spotlight. They wanted us
to shine first, and and that's a very rare quality
and very special, especially what we go through. Oh for sure. Now,
if you had to go on any other House's Wife
show be a cast member, what franchise would it be?
I always used to say in New York, But now
since they redid New York, I'm not going, you know,

(43:52):
I can't. I'm not going to go New York. So
I'll come to OS and be with you. They should
just take a bunch of us from each a couple
of them for each franchise, and put us in New
York for a few months and just filmed the show.
There's a reboot right there there. I said that too,
that would be a great show to do. We said
that at dinner the other night that I would love
if we would just do that. We could go back

(44:13):
and forth over the bridge, take the best of everybody.
I think that that would be amazing, similar to the
Ultimate Girls Trip. Have you been asked? Not yet? I
have not been asked. I felt a little sad. I well,
when I found out they were doing Marrakesh but it
was X Wives. Yeah. Then I then I understood why
I didn't go. But I was like, oh my god,

(44:34):
I would love to be in Morocco. I would do
I was just like me and a captan A head
scarf on my head scarf wearer. Yes a yes, I'm
a big head scarf wearer. I knew I was really
bombed that. I obviously, if I was announced back to
Orange County I would have gone on that trip, but
um I was I mean, I'd rather have my spot
back on Orange County. Oh of course, of course, for sure.

(44:56):
But it looked like a fabulous trip until it all went.
I know, were you like, oh my god, we did
bluestone manner in their marriages. Not that there's a being
wrong with bluestone manner, it's fat, but like to go
out of the country. I get asked that question all
the time, and in all honesty when we go on
these big trips, and you know this, it's worth it's worked,

(45:17):
its working, you know. And when we were at blue
Stone Mannor, we worked like eighteen hours a day, Not
that they asked us to do that, but we would
finish filming and then want to unwind, and then we're
walking around the house. Of course there's cameras everywhere, so
we're still filming. I don't care if they put us
in East l A. I don't care where anywhere. We're
still kind of consumed to whatever room, day in it,

(45:38):
whatever hopes, whatever it's. You're absolutely right, so it really
doesn't matter where you are. In Bluestone manner. I haven't
really loved that house. I always say her grounds if anybody.
The way I describe it is like the shining when
that you have that mes like it's very hard to
get that shrubbery like that. It's right, I mean, it's
that is unbelievable. Her grounds are unbelievable. Yeah. Um, so well,

(46:00):
hopefully we'll get to see you an Ultimate Girls trip.
I think you doing two shows a year. I think
they're doing a season. All right, Well, listen from from
you from your mouth to Bravo's ears. I I think
I could you know I'm a fun girl. What about
what about Traders? I would so do traders. I would
love to do Traders. I love it. I I would

(46:22):
to you and I should go together to do Traders. Okay,
that peacock. I cannot be buried alive. I cannot be
buried alive, never never. And I asked Brandy, I said,
was it an option? Did you get asked or you
just told you're going to do this? Because I would
go home. Somebody can offer me fifty million dollars and

(46:43):
I would not be buried alive. I couldn't do it. That.
I would have a heart attack and die in that
box like I've been put in small places and an
ambulance that I had to go in, and it was
very like almost like a coffin. They slipp me into
and I could not do it. I was having panic attacks.
You know. I couldn't have my head wrapped. When I

(47:05):
had my facelift, my head gets wrapped. I have a
freak out. When I had my facelift, I had to
take it off and I like, Margarete, have to wear
your chin's gonna drop, and I'm like, oh my god.
At night, I would freak out. I have to knock
myself out. I can't be like confined. I can't be
confined either. That's why I was so glad that I
didn't have to have a cast put on my wrist,
because I would moments I'd be like, I gotta get

(47:27):
it off. No, I it was. It was very very
hard for me. I have like a total freak out.
I am not good that way. So if we don't
have to do those challenges, I could, I could do it.
We'll have to make other people do it. She said
to me that she was They were told, now the
next thing is in a tight confined space. If you're
not comfortable with it. I don't think anybody knew there
would be buried alive though. No. No. I texted Kyle

(47:50):
when I was watching it. I texted Kyle when I
was watching it was like, I'm having a freak out
just watching it. How did you do that? I kind
of watch it. I was no, it was I was screaming.
I was screw you men. It was. It was crazy.
And it looked like they were in there for a
long time. I know, I know I was not. I
don't even know how they did it, because how do
they know, like the little breathing apparatus is working. It's

(48:11):
too it's too risky. Don't talk about don't talk about.
I can't talk about it. I know it's too much. Anyways,
we're out of time, but thank you so much. Thank
you for having me. I love you every second. I
love you today. And either I'm coming out there or
you're coming back here. Yeah. I want to go out
there for sure. And if you're in town, let's go.
I'll be I'll be over. Yes, Thank you, Mark, thank you,

(48:33):
Thanks came bye bye
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