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April 9, 2024 54 mins

Carlos King got a text about Teddi… Who said to keep her name out of their mouth!?

Then, the RHOP reunion is finally here and it might be Gizelle’s best reunion yet… even in the second seat!

Plus, did Candiace quit or did she get fired?? 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellancap and Tamra Judge.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and
a Pod with myself and Carlos King.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Teddy Walters, I'm bad.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Did you miss me?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I miss you all the time.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
But I got some I got something to tell you
what somebody told me to give you a message? Girl.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh, and you're gonna blindside me, I mean for a text.
So let's wait till her live on the pod.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, listen, I'm a journalist, hey, Portia, and so are you,
Teddy Walters, and I thought you could take it. I
got a text message that said, you tell Teddy Walters
to keep my name off her mouth?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Like Will Smith said, who was it?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
That could be so many people?

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Okay, it may not have been a bad verbade up.
But I had a conversation with doctor Wendy.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Oh, for the love.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
The thing I'm going to say about doctor Wendy when
I sent her those original DMS one, I was doing
my job two At that point in time, I really
enjoyed her on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I never called for her to be fired.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I said, I need it to be a pause and
I don't know why I got all.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
The heat on this.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I simply didn't like her watching her this season on
Potomac and I'm sorry if you liked her at this reunion, Carlos,
I got questions for you bringing up I'm sorry bringing
up someone's child praternity.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
At the reunion for the first time.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's on some of her actions before she cares about me,
saying I could use a little break from doctor Wendy.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Ooh oh, this is starting off hot. Okay, so let's
die right into it, Teddy, I'm gonna have you where
should we begin and we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
We'll talk about Okay, well, first we have to do
housewife headlines.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I guess we have to.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
The fact that doctor Wendy and I got on a
Twitter fight is so crazy to me, because, I mean,
my job is to recap what I'm watching. If I'm enjoyed,
like you're only as good as last week's episode, sometimes
I'm gonna love it, sometimes I'm not.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
And if you dislike me so much, why do you
care what I have to say? Enough to tweet dms
from before this season even aired that, By the way,
my producer from iHeart sent so that you would come
on the pod.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
It's all in fun of games, because everybody knows that
me and you you are close Teddy.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So a few of the Housewives fans were like.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Carlos, you better get Teddy. Wa de tell Carlos you're
a boy to get Teddy. I'm like, wait, what's happening.
And then Doctor Wynny and I were texting. I initiated it.
I want to make it really. I know, I know,
I know, but listen, it's all fun, it's all silly.
I just wanted to, of course, gaget you.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Who do you think you did?

Speaker 5 (03:31):
No a good gag meeting. No, it's a good gag beating.
It was unexpected.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
It was unexpected.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I did appreciate it, but like, h we gotta get
into Potomac because I do think, and I'm not calling
out Doctor Wendy specifically, I do think there will be
a lot of changes after that reunion, but we.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Will recap both.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
We will recap both parts of the reunion after we
get through housewaft headlines Okay, okay. The first Housewife Headlines
is from today article. The cast for season fifteen of
the Real Housewives of New York City has been announced.
All six stars of the previous season are returning.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
How do you feel about this part?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Jenna Lyons said she will be back for a second season,
but has made it abundantly clear she's going to keep
her loved ones, including girlfriend Cas Bird, off camera. I
have a relationship, but I would not like to name her.
Lyon said, I want her to keep her out of
the press. That is my commitment to her.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
It's off the table. I joined this process. She did not.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
It says the bad presidents. It says the bad presidents.
Even when Bethany Franco came back to her Housewives of
New York another Assawment of New York and said, you
would not see my daughter and to have those sort
of demands, you're going down.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
A very slippery slope.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Because if that's the case, then why is it fair
that the rest of the women have to show their
husbands and the husband do not get paid, the children
do not get paid. And let's be real here, if
you don't have a full life and a full storyline,
you're on the chopping block.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So, but they're showing us that how much control she
does have by her status.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
I knew that last year because she I don't know
why she's on the show period. I think, listen, I
think in real life she's an accomplished, beautiful, successful woman.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
She is not a reality star. She just isn't. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I never heard of her. I from Detroit, Michigan. I
live in La Atlanta as well. I've never heard of Genalliance.
She is, in my opinion, strictly New York City. So
to give her this sort of like pah, people like
be never heard of a woman.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
And I don't care if she's off the show.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think she brings absolutely nothing to New York City,
and that's not against her character as an accomplished, successful woman.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, I think she is interesting and when she does
share parts of her even like her medical journey, those
types of things are interesting to me. What I do
think not just for the people watching, but for the
other cast. I feel like once one person draws that
line in the sand, it's really hard for others not to.

(06:25):
But I do think we need to point out that
there are ways that you can go. You can film
with certain people, and you set your own schedule. So like,
for example, I filmed with my kids. I always would
allow my kids if it was something like that. But
the one thing I didn't enjoy was putting my kids
to bed on camera. I did it one time. It

(06:46):
made me feel uncomfortable. My kids felt frantic, it didn't
feel natural because they were performing. And from that point on,
I said, listen, I'll film with my kids when I'm
not doing bad time routine. It feels back and I
don't like it. I don't like that feeling and I
don't like doing that to them, disrupting their bedtime routine.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
But anytime else, like, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So I think it's one thing setting your schedule, but
also if the person is refusing and the like they're
in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
With somebody on a reality show.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
It just it feels weird to me.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Because it is weird because you worked on Housewives and
you knew how much you had to give your personal
life to that show. None of the husbands besides Joe
Gorga is thrilled to film a Housewife scene. The Jersey
guys all of them love it, right, Yeah, but that's
not the case with a lot of these women husbands.
I mean, we'll talk about Want Dixon lack of support

(07:44):
at the reunion for Potomac.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
So no, I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
And again, if she was a Bethany Frankel, I at
least understood, like, well, shit, let's get Bethany back. We
don't need a daughter like because she's Bethany Frank especially
at that time she said. Andy went to her house
and said, I need you back. She said, you can't
afford me. He said, give me a number. She gave

(08:11):
a ridiculous number, and he said, I'll get back to you.
She said, but under one condition, you cannot film my daughter.
And he said, I think that's okay, And they gave
her the ridiculous number allegedly that she wanted.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
But that was her stipulation.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But what are your thoughts on people that's put in
stipulations about not wanting their children or significant others on
the television show, but will plaster them on their social media.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah, exactly, That to me is weird. And look, I'm
gonna be very honest with you. If you were on
this show the first four or five seasons and were
iconic and you left and I want you back, yeah,
then you can have stipulations. But you can't have stipulations
as a first season reality star.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, my guess is they think she brings a certain
level of like cachet or class or like what people aspire.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
To be financial before the show.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
No, but I'm not. I'd never heard.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I never knew that chickens only had one hole until yesterday,
so I wouldn't say that I'm the brightest. Yeah, did
you know I found this out yesterday?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I care to know that Teddy Walters.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, I didn't either, but I learned it yesterday. So
my point is I don't know all.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
The things.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
She's not worth. This my point.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
The next one is Shannon Badoor talks about the lawsuit
John Jansen filed against her on Big Wig Hello Drama
on their Instagram. I guess I maybe misquoted something when
I read the art. I read the article verbatim. I
guess I left off a porson. I don't know if
this is true, but this is going off dms.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I got.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
People were very upset that I didn't say a part
that was allegedly in the original documentation, which was Shannon
tried to pay him but he refused because he wanted
blah blah blah. I don't know. I read from the
from the Instagram.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know. I haven't talked to Shannon about this.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know, but Shannon is on Jeff Lewis saying
she got a letter that she needed to come up
with a payment to pay John's money plan. Attorney fees
were going to surpass the amount of money that John
wanted from Shannon. She offered to pay John the exact
amount that he wanted, but he turned the deal down
because he didn't want to sign a mutual non disparagement agreement,

(10:31):
which is where you say you won't talk badly about someone.
Shannon says there were two times where he gave her money,
and there were many times where she also gave him money.
She paid for hotels and airfair, took him to New
York City four times in four months, and he would
ask her stylists to pull some stuff for him, but
never paid her back. Production for the show stretched out

(10:53):
her pay so she wasn't getting paid as often. She
told him she was stressed about the bill she needed
to pay, and he said, let me give it to you.
John wired her money and she assumed it was a
gift since she paid for him in the past.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Shannon has two lawsuits, and.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
She says both have Billino around it, so it's coincidental,
but doesn't know if she had anything to do with this.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Oh, I didn't even think about that bottom part.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Oh, Alexi Billino being back on the show as a
friend of and all of a sudden Shannon's life is
turned upside down.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, that hard I thought of, but I didn't realize
that both lawsuits allegedly had to do with her.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, it's crazy, right, but that's the reason why the
smart producers over at oc as alexis who is going
to provide so much good stuff to the show. Look,
I think Shannon is interesting. I'm kind of over the
Shannon taking her mic off, and I think I think

(11:52):
Shannon's a pause personally, but what she's going through legally
is not fun and I don't wish that on anybody.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
A legal situation is now for anyone involved.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
But I am through out to see a play out
on the show because I think Alexis Jesus Judges Bellino
is going to set this shit on fire.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Baby, I think so too.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But did you hear that little leaked audio clip from
Tamara and Shannon And I don't know it was on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
You need to text Hammer Teddy. I have not.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I've only texted Tamra whin are you home? I haven't
talked her about like when she's on her trips or
when like we just don't we don't do it. But
I will say this from what I heard on that audio,
I am not the world's best drunk.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I can say. It depends on my mindset. I am not.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm either great and I'm the most fun ever or
I am a living nightmare.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
But the difference is I do not drink and drive.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
So whatever argument anybody has that had, you have to
take accountability for that and then the other shit like
we can either be good drunks bad drunks.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
I don't drink for those very reasons, because oh yes, yes,
I'm like Kyle, I do not drink. I listen, Can
you imagine me drunk like I'm already loud and obnoxious
anyway on a on a shot of ginger So I
don't need a shot tequila, honey to be like this.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
But that's why I'm with you. Listen.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Drinking and driving is dangerous, and all junks aside. I
just want Shannon to be able to look within herself,
because I do think there are some issues there that
she hasn't resolved, because going through a divorce on camera
in real time is no fun. And then your husband
happens to be a cheater and then he's parading his

(13:46):
new woman around the kids. So I do for bad
for Shannon, and I think she needs to admit that
there could be a problem so that she can get
the help she needs.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's all well, it's in
the world of reality television, and stop me if you
think that I'm wrong. There's such a difference between wanting
to prove to the audience that you're okay versus actually
how you feel. And I feel like the disconnect between
the two is where people really struggle. Like there are

(14:18):
moments when you watch every housewife respond to something and
you're like, in real life, would you even care that
somebody said this to you?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Or would you be like, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
But all of a sudden, when you feel like you
have millions of people judging you, you have this large
reaction because nobody likes to be I don't know. I mean,
I think even Lalla Kent said it. I saw like
a little clip about it, but she said, listen, when
one person tells you something, you can.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Kind of take it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
But when you see it, like after five hundred people
have dmd you the same thing, whether it's like physical
aesthetics or whatever it may be, it starts to awagh
at you. And I think that's what she's probably struggling with.
It's just that like judgment from others where it like
you have to like yourself first.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Oh and you you you gotta stop trying to prove
something to the audience, like get the help that you need.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like the audience is still anyway.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
They're gonna love you and hate your regardless, so you
might as well focus on yourself.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you either have to get the help that you
need or if you're not ready, say listen, I'm not
ready and I'm sorry, take me or leave me. Like
I'm not saying that's a great way to be, but like,
at least be transparent about whatever you're going through. And
then people have empathy because people have been in that
situation where you know you yeah, oh my gosh. This

(15:37):
next story is so sad and I hate to go
from one to the other, but we're Housewives of Orange
County alum Laurie Peterson's son, Josh, he passed away.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Did you see this?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Mm hmmm I did, uh, Laurie posted on her Instagram.
It was with a shattered heart that I write this
post to let you know that my sweet Josh left
this earth Easter Sunday. No one can ever prepare you
for this feeling of deep log. Every fiber in my
body hurts. Josh fought every single day for most of
his adult life, for his life, but this past Sunday,
the challenge was too great. He received the most joy, pride,

(16:09):
and purpose through his daughter Kennedy and watching her growth
through the years. Laurie adopted her granddaughter as a baby
more than a decade ago. Josh battled drug addiction and
legal turmoil for years. His struggles were documented throughout the
first couple of seasons of Orange County, which I was
recapping with Tamra on flashback, which they really showed so

(16:29):
much of their kids back then.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Was a completely but my heart really goes out to
that entire family that her daughter posted as well, and
it's just really sad.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, no, Herselauri, It's and the bravery that she exemplified
on her time doing OC Housewives. It terms up talking
about it because a lot of moms, especially you know,
unfortunately suburban you know, deal with this with their children.
So the fact that she was able to talk about

(17:05):
it on the show, I think that's also the reason
why we all are so devastated, because we were a
part of some of their journey and I just wish
her the best. It's it's it's unfortunate. And the fact
that she adopted her granddaughter, I mean that that's a
stellar woman and mom and grandmother.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
And you saw how much like she she held her
bound like you.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
You saw her doing all of the things that you
that you hear if you're in a family that's struggling
and going through that, like she's giving every type of support.
She doesn't appear to be an like everything that people say,
like she she really supported and loved her son and
wanted what's best for him. And I hope that, as
his sister and Laurie both wrote, I hope that he

(17:50):
has found peace, and I just my love, my heart
goes out to them, and I'm sorry for anyone out
there struggling in that way. This next one, Anne Marie's
Instagram's story about Sutton.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Justtaposition between these headlines is a lot. Uh did you
see this?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I think I'm in it.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Oh my god, something to do?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Oh yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So she was on your pod and Anna Marie posted
this on her instat story. She reposted something that Sutton tweeted,
The hypocrisy of this woman is starting to wear at me.
Great friends, then to turn so severely weeks later on
a different podcast, ma'am. And so then we see like

(18:50):
a clip of Anna Marie at Juicy Scoop and then
a clip of her on your pod. Anne Marie then posts,
oh my god, is she drinking coffee again?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
At ten am?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Juicy Scooped was taped before the reunion and before Garcel's
statements were mysteriously all over. A defamatory article about me,
Carlos King was taped after Garcel started acting shady towards me.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Please go away and ride your horse.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, I love a shade.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
So Anna Marie shared it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
At first, I thought suddened in and I was like, oh, hell, sudden,
you did not do yourself any favorite.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I was gonna say, come on, girl, but look, and
Anna Marie's defense. And you know this, Teddy, you tried
to be cordial right while the show is airing and
you're thinking, like, right, a decent place. Yeah, it's with
someone throws a grenade at you that you're like.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Oh really, bitch, Well, let me go.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Back in my arsenal and my hoster and read you back.
So that's all Anna Marie was doing. She's responding to
Garcel telling the Daily Mail that a right winger has
no place on the real high spotsor billy heels and
I'm parapraising, right. So that was Anna Marie's response to

(20:06):
what gar Cell said.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
After it was revealed she was fired, right.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And I think that it's clear that Annie Marie wants
to be able to share her side.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Of things, and.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
The more that she shares, the more it's pissing off
the ladies because the ladies are like, you're gone.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, And I think Anna Marie has every right to
talk about her experience. Yeah, then I bad mouth the
network and the production company.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
None of this. She My interview was.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Strictly teddy about her feelings towards her own story, her childhood,
and her thoughts about the women. She only should talk
garcels Sutton in Crystal Well.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
This next one is Real Housewives of Girls strip footage
showing Carolyn Manzo and Brandy Glanville incent temporarily restricted by court.
The Real Housewives Ultimate Girl strip footage that purports to
show an incident between Caroline Manzo and Brandy Glanville has
been restricted. Executive producer Alicia Shannon submitted the videos this
week in an attempt to have the lawsuit thrown out.

(21:07):
Although the footage cannot be seen, Shannon notes that it
details the incident at issue in the complaint, Manzo's perceptions
of it, the other cast member's perception of it, and
the aftermath of the encounter, and Manzo has alleged that
Glanville forced her tongue into her mouth and humped her
without consent. Shannon also claims that Manzoe said she felt
disrespected by Brandy, but acknowledged Glanville did not sexually violate her.

(21:30):
Our primary concern at that point was making sure that
Manzoe felt safe.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Read the document.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
She told us that she felt safe and that she
wanted to continue to film, that she did not want
Glanville to.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Be sent home.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
This is where I wish Brandy would have just stayed quiet. Yes,
but she has been all over Twitter, all over everything.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I get that feeling of wanting to but all of
it is going to show itself regardless. So all of
that talk on Twitter is didn't do her any favors.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
No, And look it's one of no, No, You're absolutely right. Listen,
Brandy gets herself in trouble just by having diarrhea of
the mouth and not like revealing stuff. It's more so
about when you're dealing with the legal situation, you have
to let it play out in court. And that's what
we're seeing now. And look, I am friends with Caroline Manzo.
I work with her in Jersey for two seasons. Look,

(22:28):
Caroline is very conservative, you know, she's she's not the
party girl. She never she never mixed in with the
with the drunken ladies on Jersey.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
That wasn't her thing. And I think the reason why.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I refrained from making a judgment based on the incident
is because I wanted to understand fully what happened. And
now that it's coming out, it's it's it's interesting to
hear the executive producer saying she felt that it was
one way, but she did not feel it was a

(23:01):
sexual assault.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And again I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I don't it is this thing with world play in
terms of but is that how Caroline felt?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know?

Speaker 6 (23:14):
So?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think that's I think that's the dangerous gray area
that we're facing right now.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, and I think we'll just keep finding out more information.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Do you think that we'll ever see that?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Never? You will never see Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip.
And in my humble opinion.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Teddy Walters, Yeah, the Real Housewives Girls Trip is over.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It is never coming back.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
I think the idea of getting drunk women together is
no longer. It's no longer eating one's appetite. I'll say that.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I never even got a job offer.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I know we wanted to see.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
And that was my best episode drunk again.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Listen, well, come up with something else.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
This next one is Rachel Fuda made a slight crop
cropping out Teresa. Isn't this in response to Teresa cropping
Rachel out of something before?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
I just think, look, I'll say this much it's good
for the show.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
It turns of promoting gig cuz I don't think the
show's getting the promotion that it deserves.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It comes on like in three weeks Teddy and I
don't know if you have.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I haven't heard much about Jersey.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And that's why I had to ask our producer Saego,
when is Another Housewife starting to air? Like when are
we getting another Housewives? And they're like, oh, Jersey may fifth.
I'm like, I haven't seen anything about it.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Zero And the entire like photo shop of the recycled
pictures with They're at a carnival that Gordon from Potomac,
you know, created, and then you we have Dolores Catania
as the as the lead singer in the middle of
a photo with Teresa and Melissa on the on the

(25:09):
total opposite, which is that if that's not a sign, uh,
we're's going may get tired.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Of this Melissa, it's a drama. I don't know what
is baby.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, I mean I feel like this.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I mean, according to Bryce Sander, Andy Cohene expressed at
Bravo con that the lack of communication between Teresa and
Melissa will not work for future seasons of the show,
which I think is exactly what he said to the
women of Potomac when he started this reunion.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Andy starting off this.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Reunion by putting them all on notice, like made me
start sweating.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Oh yeah, and it made them start sweating, which is
why they start getting activated. Yeah, and you've never seen
Jazelle have a better reunion that she's having now.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Oh, says Giselle. Was great.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
But they start out, we're talking about Andy says all
they they're happy when they talk about sex. She talks
about how she waits for her man to fall asleep
to spit.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I things that I don't need to hear.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I do think that somebody else was having issues swallowing,
and that was Giselle when she realized that she didn't
have the first seat.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Did you see her.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Walk out and try to sit and then.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Was like, girl, how embarrassing was that? I mean, talk
about a humble pie that you did not order off
the dessert?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Mean you, honey.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I felt bad for Gazelle because look, when you have
had first chair for seven consecutive seasons, honey, and to
find out as you're walking out, nothing is more embarrassing.
But I will say this good for the producers because

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it made Gazelle aware no one is.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Safe and also know who I love together Joselle and
Karen me too. I loved them I love the fact
that they could put their stuff aside in this.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It shows what kind of business women they are. They're like, listen,
we will put our shit aside and support one another
because we both want our jobs next year, So yes,
figure it out.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I loved it. I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
This is by far Gazelle's best reunion, and it's because.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
She has second share best reunion. I thought it was great.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I also thought when Andy said that Wan Dixon doesn't
have a basketball game.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Kadie, Andy, I was here for it. That's why he's
so good at his job. No, listen, he's not at
the laundromat buying bounty. He's not at the nel salon
getting cute calls like why isn't your husband there? I
think Wan is so disrespectful to Robin. I don't think
he loves her that much. It sad as me that

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your wife has to defend your actions by herself.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
That's that's nasty work.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Can you help remind me from like season one of Potomac.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
How much was he on?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
He was at every reunion up until he got exposed
for the hot Mike audio and and and I mean
he still came on after that, but he's been very
distant from the show since then. So when her main

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storyline is him, he refuses.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
To be at the reunion, and that's that's the sad part.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
But can I play Devil's advocate for a second.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Do you think that He's like, listen, I'm gonna let
you do what you need to do to keep this job,
to make this money, to do what you can. But
I'm not being paid to do that, So like, why
do I need to be there?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I mean, because.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
How did you think that Candace's husband did well?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Because she's the breadwinner. Listen, let's have a real conversation.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
That's what I'm saying, Robin exactly know what I'm saying
is Chris showed up for Candace, because really, show I.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Don't think he did her any favors.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
It doesn't matter show up.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Neither did her poster board.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean, epic fail. I'm sick of props, like give.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
It up that but a real doozy.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I was like, for the love, I don't like props,
like stop it.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, I know, I just think I was wondering, like
who at Kinko's was like, all right, let me print
out this size and was it the same person that
did Monica's burn book, and were they like.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Kris fail and that's my girl that less than guys
after Motnique's binder, Let's just stop with the with the
props because you can't top.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I liked Monique's Finder, by the way, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can't top that. You can't top that like a
a a.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
A full sized poster board at Kinko's laminated, just to
show at the reunion that that we the audience are
unable to see it's not funny.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I also want to know how.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
The girls get this shit in.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
I couldn't even get in my lip gloss, like I
like watch it, Like I remember like trying to bring
my phone and like stuffing it behind the pillow and
they're like nothing, you can't have it.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
And I was.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Like, like life size posters that they're just bringing it.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Oh hold on, let me grab this. It's like a
whole human But yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
A lot.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I know we can't really.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Get through the entire duration of these two episodes, you know,
in our time frame, But what did you actually feel
watching this reunion? Like I don't want to, I'm not
gonna be I don't I'm not saying I want anyone fired,
so I don't need that on me.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I do.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I am saying, if you can't work stuff out, it
is not entertaining, and I don't want to hear if
you're not willing to take accountability for your own shit,
which is why I was having a little bit of
and I love.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Candice in real life, love love, love me too.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I had a hard time with her at the reunion.
I had a hard time with doctor Wendy because both
of them were happy to throw stones at other people,
but yet whenever it was back, it was like, oh, no,
I tried to fix this by doing this or saying
this or I said this.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I mean, if they had the tape, wouldn't they have
rolled it?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
I was listen, listen, listen. I was shocked that Wendy
admitted to having this nice time come conversation with Gizelle
about her daughter, and then for Candace to say, yeah,
she did have that conversation, roll the tape and Gizelle.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Said it never happened. I'm like, no, Gazella happened because.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
These girls I thought they were going to roll it
because I'm like, like, sorry, Gizelle.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I was like, I love you, but I know your
ass is lying. And then I was like, Nope, they
don't got it.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
They don't have it. And then I'm like, well, who
is Zoom and who Aretha Franklin?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Like I was so embarrassed for Wendy and Candace because
I'm like, Okay, there's two people corroborating that it did happen.
Gizelle is super adamant it never happened, and then Andy's
saying sorry, God's production saying we don't have the footage.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
So this is what I think the problem is.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think that Wendy and Candace care more about the
audience than they do about any of those other women,
and I think that ring true with.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
When it came to Mia and Gordon.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, I didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I mean the fact that she's like, Karen and I
have been fighting all season long, and even me, it
goes I've been coming at Karen all season long and
she still reached out to me multiple times. Like there
is a certain kind of bond that you have on
that show when you're together and you all are exposing
your lives, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and

(33:30):
the fact that both doctor Wendy and Candace felt above
whether they agree.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
With what me is doing or not.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Was yah, listen, I love Candas and I love doctor Wendy.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I did not like that because of this reason. When
Doctor Wendy said, well, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
We had our issues you hit me with the purse,
I'm like, well, Wendy, you guys made up this season. Yeah,
so we can't use that as an excuse. And I'm
from the school love. At the end of the day,
when some tragic happens in someone's life, whether that's divorce,
something with children or parents, right, I think that's when

(34:09):
you have to go above the drama and say, as
a human being, I want you to know my heart
goes out to you. I'm not saying call me girl,
I'm gonna cook you dinner, but I can at least say, hey.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Heard you going through divorce. My heart goes out to you.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I think that says a lot about your intention with
these women. So I was disappointed in Windy and Kansas
for not at least sitting a text. And I don't
like the fact that they were sort of like laughing
at what Gordon said to the guys.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I thought that was mean.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Too, but also the fact that Wendy when it came
to Giselle's dad passing away, like you've now seen the footage,
You've now seen what happened.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
It goes to show you how much they don't like
each other. And that's why something draft stick cast that
happened to his cast because I can't watch another season.
I didn't finished watching this season because they do not
like each other. And I think they reunion showcase how
much they just don't like each other.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah, I think it showcase.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
But I think also Andy made points like when he
said to Wendy.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
He's like, oh, now that you have a talk show,
you're giving me a lot of I was like, shit,
you stepped in it.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
You stepped was so Budy, listen, I love a little shade.
I thought, I'm a soul buddy.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
He's like, you know when he does that, he's.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Like, oh he's serious. He doesn't you guys know, well
he does that. He's honestly serious.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
He's like, I see you. You're not pulling a faster
on me. Yeah, and all he catches it all.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I am because he did it to Robin too
about the the uber comment or the uber driver, and
then he's like, should I do it?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Like you could tell You're.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Like, oh, oh, yeah, you have to know and to
know that he's joking.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
But there's there's there's some series.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I think you know clearly when it comes to the
colorism stuff, I am not the one to speak on it, okay,
but if you were running the reunion, how would you
have handled the situation.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
In order to have a conversation about colorism? And this
is where doctor Wendy did get it right. You have
to have the range to have that conversation. And in
the black community, colorism still exists all around. It's I
don't have, you know, two days to teach the world

(36:41):
about the effect that colorism has on the black community.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
But what I can share with you all is it's real.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
It really does happen when it comes to the inner
prejudice that we as a community have to deal with.
And I was disappointed in the in all of the
ladies in the sense.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Of at least once one time.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
This show is watched predominantly by white women, and I
thought it was such a good way of educating the
white female audience on this very important subject matter that
we as black people were taught teddy since we were kids,

(37:25):
and to dismiss it as if it's a nothing burger.
I'm not saying the women are colorists by any stretch
of the imagination.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
What I am saying is.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Use these eyeballs to educate the audience on what this means,
so that the audience can walk away saying, Oh, I've
learned something from this, you know, is why I watch
the view For an example, this.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Was a teachable moment that could have taught someone like me,
but instead I came out only feeling like.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
You felt uncomfortable. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I don't know what you say, I don't know how
to feel, I don't know what to think. And this
was where I was looking to all of.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
The women sitting on those couches to share how they
felt what they were going through, not how the a
tweet made them feel, thank you, but how I say
that a tweet and like how you actually felt are
two different things.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
In my opinion, Oh well, how.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Much of person? But also goes to show you.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
The reason why I was I was largely disappointed is
because they tried to dismiss it as if it's not
an issue, and it is an issue.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Now, it may not be.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
The sole issue in your reasoning for not liking somebody.
I get that, but let the audience understand why it's
an issue it to begin with. But doctor reing, she
did hit the numb. They hit certain women on that stage.
They do not have the range to have that conversation.
And that was showcase I'm part two reunion.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, I agree, let's get into I don't even really
care to discuss the Michael Darby stuff, all of that.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
He cares about this faked divors.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
They're not getting divorced, teddy, Michael Darby does not want
to film. Ashley is still living with him, having sex
with them, holding his comment her mop until he says
disease and counts sheep.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
This is a favor, don't I don't care, just like
I truthfully and I enjoy Robin. It doesn't bum me
out that one's not there. I personally don't care if
one is cheating or not cheating. If Robin doesn't care,
I don't really care.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
But tell me that I want Robert to say, I
don't care if he cheats. I guess she.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Was saying that She's she said, listen, you guys, don't.
This is what I don't understand about people watching the show.
She is going, Guys, I've told you repeatedly, I'm good
with what's happening with one like I can't fight his
battles for him.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
We've been together for a long time pretty much.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
She's saying, like, I'm there till death do his part
regardless of what shit goes down.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
So doesn't matter what y'all say, doesn't matter what he says.
I'm in it to win it.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
We have to accept that it may not be the
relationship we personally want, but that is some relationships Like
do you not know people that have met their significant
other when they were young children practically, and they have
grown together in a toxic way, but yet they still
have love for one another and they're never gonna move on.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
What is it? My issue? It's not do I have
the phone toxic things in my relationship? Yes, we all
do thirty year olds.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yes, no I but this is the thing. I wish
she was able to articulate the way you just did.
And I think that's what's missing, because on one hand,
she tries to pretend we're dumb when she's taking these
rehearsed scenes of them in the kitchen making a protein
shake and she's.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Like, well, you know what the cousin saying, you met
the news la. I told him I don't care. I
red rather her say this. Guys.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
If he's cheating on me, I don't care. That's my husband,
the father of my kids. Till death do us part.
I think we will all say go ahead, bitch work.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Like, I'd rather know and be a part of it
than computer dark. And I'm getting mine too. Whatever it is,
I do think they have love for each other. We
just don't see it because he's so angry that he's
having to be on television about it.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Teddy, Yes, accountability coach, you held on, Well he see well,
this is a healthy wellness situation.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
It's like to run your first marathon. Not and he's
cheating on This is a.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Marathon of infidelity that I'm dealing with. Shit. Do you
think okay, Well, at least we know she spits guys. Okay.
Do you think want Dixon is in love with Robin?
In love?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I think okay.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I may have like a soft spot in my heart
for Robin.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I'm going to be like, once I meet you and
I have a real conversation with you.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
If I can relate to you and I can feel
the type of person that you are, I will say it.
And this may be problematic to people listening to this podcast.
If you have a good heart and I enjoy you,
and I don't think you take yourself too seriously, I
most likely will like you. And the interview she gave
me at Bravocon made me like I had always not

(42:34):
always been team Robin all the time, but like when
I heard her talk and she was just like, listen,
he's my person.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Is it always good? He'll know? But we love each other.
I do believe that.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Do I think that the way he treats her is
like the way you want to believe that, like in
our fairy tale world that like we.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Want to be treated by our significant others one hundred
percent not. But I also don't think it's any more
normal to watch Mia pick up the phone FaceTime from
Ink while Gordon sitting behind her while living in Atlanta
and Charlotte and Washington, DC. When I wasn't mad at

(43:16):
that either.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I'm out at that. Hoddy. Isn't Mia like the MVP
of the show now?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I mean, she is a little slice of amazingness because yes,
she doesn't care, but it did take it too far
from me. And I don't know if Wendy was throwing
Mia the softball or if Wendy was just totally.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Trying to like cut Mia off at the head.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
But like when Mia was sitting there talking and Wendy
was like, well, does Ink think he's the dad?

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Because that's the what I got in the messages.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Karen fell off her chair, fell off the couch, and
her first Karen was so happy to have the first seat,
but she was like wanting to slink off the stage.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Like she's ready to fence hump off the.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Stage to get away from that situation, like it was
too much for me.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yeah, but you're being very quiet now.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
No, oh girl, please now listen.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
The reason why the girls who I love like Robin
and just get mad at me is because I'm always
like guys, I gotta be honest. I agree with you
about Wendy bringing that up. I didn't like it either.
I think that's something that Mia should share herself. It's
not something that I think you should bring up without

(44:44):
the parents consent. And I do love the fact that
Karen called it for what it was when she's like,
we're talking about a child who's going to watch this
one day, and it's one thing for me and Gordon
to share the reality, which they did in the finale.
But I think that's when the other ladies should just

(45:06):
sit quiet.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I did see the kind of girl's girl that Mia
is when she went up to Mecca and basically said, girl,
you better start talking or you're gonna be walking.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Like I think that showed like get it together.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Come on, yeah, come on, girl, what are we doing?
When she said it's like you're watching the show. Yeah,
like like if you and I were there like this
teddy the whole time, like ooh, let me get my
sparkling water. Yeah, that's what Nika was giving. And you
kind of saw Neka try to insert herself. But even
when she said, like I still feel nervous and it's

(45:43):
kind of look, I listen minority here. I feel bad
for Mekka because I feel like Neka did not realize
what she signed up for.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I think she realized what she signed up for.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But I think that first year, yeah, I think that
first year there has to be one person that lets
you in. If that one person doesn't accept you as
a friend, you are going to feel like the odd
man out no matter what, and then you don't feel
comfortable being yourself.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
And did she have that connection with anybody? I don't
think so now.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
And she looked very uncomfortable even on the stage.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
She looked gorgeous, by the way, but she looked very uncomfortable.
And I felt bad for her behind me when she
told her husband, how you can get out and go
join wherever Wand is.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Oh, yeah, no, there's gonna be if Neca stays.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I feel like we're going to see a completely different
I think Necca's just was like dipping her feet into
the into the pool.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, like dabbling her toes.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
But who who do you think? And we're not wishing
this upon anyone, We're just predicting.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Who do you think is gone?

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Robin?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
That's it? I mean, other than well.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
We know Candace, No candas long you know.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
But do you think Candace quit or got fired? You're
the producer?

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Oh honey, I just don't think people quit. I think
I think I think it has to be a very
drastic situation.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I don't think you tried that hard at the reunion
and then quit.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah, the thing is this with Monique.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
And then quit? You don't need four.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Get you at your credit work.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Quit the people who quit you kind of you knew
they quit, Like Lisa Vanda Pump, it was obvious, right, didn't.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
The reunion She's like.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Like, like, you're God clearly Monique Samuels after the buying
there it was like, yeah, She's like, I'm over this ship.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Plus you wealthy.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
So I also think there's no surprise that a Candy,
a Porsche, a Bethany Alisa vander Pomp.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
These women are.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Like millionaires, are like, I don't need it, So I
don't think. I don't think quitting Housewives is on anyone's
bingo card.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah no, but okay, so you think Robin Candace, who else?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I would like to see Ashley go see.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
I like Doctor Wendy, and I'm not saying that because
we're friends, because I also love Giselle and Robin. I
like what Doctor Wendy brings to the show. I really
want another seasons where I'm able to see her and
Joselle get along.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I'm sick of that.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I'm wanting to see a season of her getting along
with anyone.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
I want to see a season of her.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
How long with Karen she gets along with Candace? She
made up with me.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Being a show friend and not having any sort of
real connection with somebody.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
It does not count. She was on there to.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Promote her talk show and her candles and her all
of her things, and that's fine, do it, but then
at least make me believe and her rolling Oregano's like, make.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Me believe that you really like somebody on the show.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I really believe that her and Kndas were friends.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
It's a shame because we know you don't think.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Wait, no, Teddy, for real, you don't. You don't you
don't buy their prince yap.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Do I think they hang out?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I think they hang out as much as Drew Sodora
and Candace hang out right now?

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I mean that was.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Right?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I was like, how did I was like, one, poor Drew,
I loved you.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
But it's so sweet.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
I'm like, what did true? Like, what could Drew have done?
We got to see that song A three?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Oh you made it that far? Okay? Great?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Listen, I think you was so sleep I'm like, why
is your catching strays?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Like, damn, Candace, what happened?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I need to know?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I need to know I'm like, what did she It
feels like like a paid promotion type of situation, like
once you know how it goes like once like a promoter,
someone reaches out to you, and then if you were
to go on your own, but like that's all the
housewives like if you're on a group text and then
somebody wants to message you after and like we want
to book you for this.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, that's how it is. Name them.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Who's not gonna say?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I didn't really, to be honest, watching Candace and Robin
hate each other wasn't interesting to me.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
No, I don't care about the DMS. I don't care
what was said. I don't really care about the screenshots.
I don't need to see it. But what I do
need to know is what the heck Gordon is going
to say next week that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I know isn't a health issue? It was listen?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (51:09):
That is?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
MEA's father Like.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
You're so gross?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I mean, well, did they make out? Have we ever
seen them be physical? I'm like, this has got to
be a huge reveal. While he's like, I don't know
that anyone's ever spoken about this.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
I'm like, what have I spoken about.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
This is not a TLC show like this is that
is not her dad.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I think it has something to do with his health
and listen.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
With that being said, I hope I'm wrong, but it
sounded to me like it was a health aid.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
Do you think it's but but you know how this
shit works, right, I'm producer.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
It could be something so lame that it could be something.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
We already know, like she was having sex with Ink
since high school. No ship, we already guessed that.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, we knew that. We knew that.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
So the fact that she now has said that Jeremiah
her Son is definitely Gordon's so we got got that
out the way.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
That's why I feel like it has something to do
with him versus them.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I still want to understand the financials of their relig
I don't know why I care, but I still want
to understand why Mea is.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Having to pay for Gordon.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I know it's pretty it's pretty. Listen.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
One thing about Mia that I like, at least, she
is very honest and she loves I appreciate the fact
that even her getting a Hall passed, she didn't go
and sleep with like the rapper or the NBA player
or like whatever, like she went back to her first love.
So I think that goes to show you that Mia

(52:45):
just loves love.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I think Mia wants to be loved, and I don't
think Gordon had the capacity to love her the way
that she wanted to say.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Financially Okay, now what capacity anyway?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I think financially or I just even seeing him, I
like seeing him speak to her.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I think he looks at her in a way like
you were.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
This little prize that I had, yeah, for sure, and
that you were like I think there's a difference when
you look at somebody like a possession versus a love,
You're going to be treated differently.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
But he Gordon does appreciate the opportunity to address everything
and remind her to everyone to buy tickets to Carlos
King's live tour Reality with the King. Purchase tickets at
Kingdom reign it dot com slash links. That's Kingdom R
E I, G N E n T dot com slash links,
and you guys, Tam will be back later this week,

(53:45):
so we will get our shit together for two season
a pod and get more episodes, Carlos, you want to share.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
With us, now listen Reality the King podcasts. My podcast
dropped two episodes a week. Wherever you get your podcast,
so thank you.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Do you have anyone juicy coming on?

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You're like such the influencer. Now they're like big things.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Don't call me a TikToker.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Now I'm gonna start doing those videos where I'm like
in the kitchen, I'm like my kids ask for peanut
butter and jellies, so then.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
However I can get that paycheck. All right, Thanks you
guys for tuning in. I appreciate you. Carlos, love you
so much and always love you.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Bye
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