May 11, 2023 • 49 mins
The *new* Tres Amigas are here!! Taylor Armstrong and Shannon Beador join the Twots.
We’re talking threesomes, BBLs, and even exes.
What really happened between Shannon and John Janssen before and after the breakup? Are they back together?
Plus, Taylor reveals a very weird Bravo Con interaction that involved Jen Shah.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Camorrid Judge.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And today we have two special oc guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So we're here with Shannon Best known for being a
cast member on the Real Housewives of Orange County. She
joined the cast in season nine. She's the owner and
founder of Real for Real and she has three daughters.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We all professional Teddy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We also have Taylor Armstrong. Taylor Armstrong is known as
an original cast member of the Bravo reality series The
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. In twenty twenty two, was
announced that she would join the Real Housewives of Orange County,
making her the first housewife to transfer franchises. She moved
to Orange County nearly ten years ago and has been
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brought into the circle after be becoming fast friends with Tamra.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Okay, wait a minute, I will have to say, Taylor,
you are truly like the Vault because you were interviewing
to be on oh SE and never told me. You
know how I found out? Oh when I was interviewing, Well,
I guess they were coming.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
If you call interviewer, they know who I am. They
accidentally sent me an email for you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
If she told you, would you have kept it secret exactly?
Maybe that's why she kept it quiet.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't keep secrets.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You know that, Well, I kind of no.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You wait until it's the most uncomfortable time for you
to release the secret.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, and then yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's it's yeah, it's my secret power.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Good.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I knew that, and I didn't say anything. And then finally,
after I got hired, I said to Alex and said,
you know, I got this email, and he goes, No.
Taylor is like the Vault. She does not repeat anything
that's told to her.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's true, true, which is good for you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
My next question is for Shannon, because I don't know
if you remember, but right when me and taram Are
started the podcast, I reached out to you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I sent you a text message.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was a strong text from NAPA.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah I remember you never responded to me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, let me just tell you. She wanted us to
get back together as friends, and I'm saying no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Before she was ever cast, before there was passion.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I always said, I like Shannon, I think you're making
a mistake.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I understand that there is.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And you had Shannon's phone umber on your phone.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I know because we had a moment at Andy Cohen's
baby shower.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, we had fun, like and I liked her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I said, listen, I understand I have recently been
fired myself, and the friendship's change and they are they
made you know, there's an uncomfortable level to some people
because they don't want to make you feel bad after
you're gone. And I don't know all of the specifics,
I said, but I just want you to talk to
Shannon because I do think that you guys have a
true friendship.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So I called Shanna.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
She didn't answer, and then I texted and guess what,
she didn't respond.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's because she has nine hundred unanswered text messages.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But also to just clarify, Tamor was saying a lot
of things out there in the press and my choice,
my choice was not to engage.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You engaged, So.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You did engage a bit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I said, it's some of the stuff you're hearing is
not true. It's not true. So yeah, I'm going to
defend myself. But I didn't say much beyond that, because
I wasn't going to do that. So to respond to
you and be two against one, it wasn't what.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I was coming for you and that message.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I of course, yeah, but I was.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was actually very I was very nice, and I
just said I missed they'all's friendship together. Please call us,
and let's.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
When she called you, I ran out the door.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, I will say, like, what are you doing? I
will say, and I've said this, so I think I can.
I never, in my wildest dreams, thought that I would
be reunited with this one.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I really do. Really it was that bad.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I thought that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think, when you are so close to somebody and
then something happens you, you just the pain is so
bad that you want to block out all the good
and just think about the bad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Right, But I didn't think that there would be even
a situation where we would be with each other again,
and to be able to be in this position right now,
I'm absolutely grateful to have my friend back. And when
we finally work through things, and by the way, there's
a lot that we had to work through, it was
like snap the fingers.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's a sisterhood.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Two and a half years didn't even happen.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm just saying you could have written back and just
say I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, she's not very good at it.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm not a good time. I'm not What are you
like my dad's well, I'm kind of pity. How old
is your dad because I think I'm about his age.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Seventy two?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, that's my mom's age.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
How old are you, Shannon?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm fifty nine. Damn it, you look really good.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We're going to have a pig giant sixtieth.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Absolutely, I need to ask more freaking questions. I'm sorry,
I'm not done. So I saw there was a TikTok
and I saw John Jansen in it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, this is after.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Are you talking about that la article?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
There's all these things. But then I saw him now
at the gym as well with you.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, we ran into each other there.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But why did you post?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I got mad at Tamra because I said, when
they hung out that night and everyone's drinking and having fun,
did you ask Shannon if maybe you put just the
tip in?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
And she said I did not ask Shannon. I said no,
and I said, well I am going.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
To okay, well I will say slip. I know I
will say that I was dating someone and I asked
that person to come to the family feud. But we
ended things right before.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Why this was the Mexico guy.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
The Mexico guy. I know you posted him on you
know what I said? Are you ready to be done? No?
You guys, we went out for four months. I was
ready to post that he's my official boyfriend. And then
you know, this is why this is my piece of
dating advice to people. If you think you like someone,
go away for them, go away with them for the weekend,
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because that's when you know you're on the trip. And
then it's like, you know what, this isn't really working well?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What made you guys such different type of travelers? Like
for me, I knew I could travel with Tamra because
she didn't bug me about a bunch of like what
all are you packing?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
What are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Are we going?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, like what's the exact timing? She could just kind
of go with the flow and then we just could
figure it out. But there are some people that are
like very high maintenance travelers, and I'm like, it was.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
More it was more spending time with someone and realizing
that you're not on the same page.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, you also were spending more than just a few
hours with him.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You were like, yeah, and we dated for four months
like regularly kids like him. They yeah, they did, Yeah,
they did. But he's I needed a date and I
you know what, I Everyone's going to give me a
lot of hell for this, but I was blindsided by
what happened with John. I was so heartbroken. I can't
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even tell you. But now that we're almost eight months
into it, I would much prefer to be friendly and
not be bitter because I don't have room for that negativity.
And we are friends, and that is that is what
we are as friends. So I have not been you
were friends, And to be sure, to be clear, I
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have not. I have not. I have not been intimate.
I have not been intimate with anyone since, and that
means sex. But was there job with anyone since John Janssen?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I have hold on He dated the guy for four months,
he went with you to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You didn't even touch you.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You didn't even dry ump. No, did you give him
a blowy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No hand job, dry humping?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Oh my gosh, honestly I would break up with you too.
Nothing what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
She broke up with him because I think he wasn't
putting out, But.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
No, I felt like I fell for him.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Maybe he can't get hard.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Oh that's it. That's a con that's.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's and we're really talking about this right now.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, I have a question. Did you ever wash your
hair the entire girls trip? Because it stayed perfectly quaffed
the entire time. And these are the things I wonder like,
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I'm like, I saw Vicky come out and some days
her hair looked like she had put her finger in
an electrical socket.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I tried to help her, that's Vicky.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
So did you watch OC before joining?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know, I had seen some of the very first episodes,
so I kind of knew the old history, but I've
been catching up on the most recent history because I'm
getting to know the other girls, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You actually hang out with some of the girls that
were on in previous years, which would be Lynn Curtin
my Curtain, Tammy Knickerbocker, and Peggy Tanno's of course, Vicky
Vicky are those they? Ever? How did they take it
when you got cast on Orange County? And were they
do they? Kind of like I want to be on
can you bring me to a party.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
What did you think of me now that you've seen
like old episodes? To catch up?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I was, I was trying to catch up on your
relationship because I came into it. It was different, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
What season did you watch? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Like bits? And I have a friend who's obsessed, and
so he just showed me like bits and pieces of
different seasons so I could piece together everything and try
to do a quick catch up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, what'd you think of Shannon?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, you guys were close and then you were.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What we're getting in is did you like Do you
like me well as a viewer?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I like you now as a viewer as a kind
of team camera. So I came in smart.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I have another question for Shannon? What you trip and
fall a lot or like stumble?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Is this like and not good?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Squad?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But you're not drinking when these things are happening? Are
you like a very clumsy human being?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
My balance is a bit off, but I am exercising
every single day.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You give squad?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Wait, like are you can you give us a squad?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Give me?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Give me a squad right now?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Okay, let's okay, Okay, this is my ability.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh yeah, to have your knees over the toes and heels.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Do you remember when you came to Cut Fitness years
ago and you were trying to do a squad and
you had to hold onto a Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But was it Shannon last?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I never watched the beginning, But was it Shannon
last year or the year before? You guys were all
out and someone was annoying me maybe.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And then there was like a fall at the table.
Was that Vicky or was that Fanish? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I fell over on the I remember that. But I
kept those six sombreros on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But you know what, we never saw that if you
had an inny ear and out he's so congratulations to
you for keeping that under.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Wraps because the SPANX is typically covering it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh, when you went in the koozy when Tam jumped
in and broke her foot with laser, did you have
spankx on?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes? Do you ever not have SPANX on?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You might see me and spanks doing something.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, maybe the reason you never had sex is because young,
So I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't need them. No, when I went, when I
went there, no, not no. When I don't go when okay,
and thanks for saying his name.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Sorry, But when I when I went with Plexico Man,
Mexico Man, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, you do, You're not an easy leg because that's
a lot of like, wait, she just said, there's a.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Hole in the middle. I just threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
There's a hole in the middle of a spank. And
at one point I made a mistake and tried to
pee through it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that went, yeah, why would you wear spanks?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Why would you ever?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Because I couldn't wear underwear, was like, yeah, sometimes you
just like I didn't want to have an underwear line.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But to be clear, there were moments in my life
where I would put up to five on Shannon.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have a question. Yes, she's not choking, Shannon, I
have a question. Yeah, Ultimate Girls Trip. Is this something
you want to do? Who would you? Who would be
your dreamcast?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Well, first of all, lightly, I have I have coined.
I haven't asked. I have coined myself on vacation, Shannon,
because I am quite fine on vacation typically don't go
to bed. And I was asked to go last minute
on Thailand. But I think I had like a week
to prepare and didn't work out. It didn't work out.
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So I would love to be on Ultimate Girl's Trap. Teddy,
you haven't been on yet?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I know. Do you think it should be our?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Super fun? I think?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Do you think Tama would get jealous? So if we
became besties?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yes? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No no, yes, if we had like a real connection
and I was like, sorry, Tama, I got to call
you back.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I'm on with Shannon.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well can you you would you be able to call
Vicky and tell her that there's a new trace in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Oh my god? Stop?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But I think it would be fun to be on
with Margaret and Dolores. I haven't been on. Oh, I
would love to do that, and Sonya.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I want somebody from Miami.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But like I love Larsa.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think that Chara would be super fun. We just
time with her. Oh, I love love Charay and Marlot
was really sweet too.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I liked Marlow too, But I'm scared what if I, like,
did something to piss her off. I feel like she
could maybe make me cry.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You don't cry, Who are you fooling?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You're tough.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Teddy doesn't cry.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I cried when I was on the show We Will.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We all do?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Made your crime be that's so embarrassing, So okay, let's change.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Things around Taylor.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
What is your relationship like with Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I haven't talked to her in years?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's Teddy's best friend.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Really tight?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You are you and the LVP?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you haven't talked to her in years?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Not in years? I mean if I saw her, we'd
be cordial.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But what was your experience filming with her?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
My experience filming with her is lisas smart as a fox,
and she's always knows three questions before she's really trying
to get.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do you think when Camille said the things that she
said to you, do you think that Lisa Vanner Pump
put her up to it?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think she, yes, camis Camil's not that smart, come
up with it clearly always, so it's calculated.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Oh, I think she listen.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Camille's lovely, but Camille will do anything to get the
paycheck last minute. Because I saw Camille recently, I filmed
one time I saw her and I realized that the
camera wasn't following her, so I was like, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
To down shit. I gotta get over to some other people.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But I looked at her and there was this moment
and I just went, ah, hell Camille, and we like
laughed and like gave each other a hug. But there
was like that moment of just I really feel like
she does what she feels like she has to do
to be on the show at any particular time, which
is why I always had a problem with her. Like, listen,
if you truly think I'm an asshole, if you truly
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think that I was mean to your kid, if you
truly think I'm this person, be that way to me
all the time. Don't just be that way to me
on camera.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But I will disagree with you that one thing you
said she does it all at the last minute for
the paycheck. She was on h with no paycheck forever. Well,
that was doing that fine fame, fine fame exactly. Let
me she doesn't need a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Who was your favorite person to work with on Beverly Hills, You.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Know, God bless her but Kim Richards because she just
stressed me out so much. And there her relationship with Kyle,
you know, it's long and complicated and it's too much
for the cameras to even understand. But she was hard
for me to film with. I never knew what she
was going to do. It was always erratic.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Can you explain to me the cat meme? I don't
understand it. I don't get it. I didn't watch them,
and the cat meme took over for the entire COVID.
Every fucking meme was there. But one years later, I
don't get it, explained.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't get it either. The first time I saw it,
I sent it to Kyle and she was like, I
don't get it, and I read her back. I was like,
she's like, I don't get I don't get it either,
and then it just kept happening. People are so creative
and maybe have a little too much time on their hands,
but I think it's hysterical. And here's the best part.
So Smudge the cat.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The cat has a cat.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's his name Smudge Lord, because what cat was it.
It's a random house cat. But he had nothing to
do with real house one nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, the cat wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The cat was not there.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The cat Foo the dog.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's a famous The cat has one point six million
Instagram follow and he has an agent and a publicist
because of you. I think before me, I think the
cat's more famous than sweaters.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Nobody bought it from me though, just.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And there's Christmas sweaters of me and the cat. There's
Halloween costumes of the cat and me. I have no idea.
It's totally crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Did you put the cat on the map or no?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think the cat put me?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But hold on, was that mean whatever it's specifying at
that point in time, was that before or after you
got in the suitcase?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That was? It was so funny that you say that
because I said to my mom, I go, I might
have some weird moments this season, just so you know,
and she goes, well, it'll never be as bad as
you in a suitcase, honey, so don't.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Worry the cat.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I remember that the cat was after the suitcase. But
the cat, I don't know. It's been frigging crazy. So
smudge lord, he's the king.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh my god, Shannon. I got to ask you, out
of all the trips that you have had on Orange County,
what was your favorite and why?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Okay, I'm going to say that the best trip was
number one, Ireland. Yes, except with the buss the bus
from hell No. I was yelling, so that kind of
but it didn't still wreck that bond. But the other trip,
very close second was to.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
He can we talk about Stahiti who was on the
cast st.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Oh, that was fun. What year was that?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It was my second It was my second year of
season ten s T season ten, and so I didn't
realize that sometimes on cast strips that you split up.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And we were all.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Supposed to go to the champagne place and picking tamers
show up at my door and they say we're not going,
and there they start filling my glass with street vodka
and we literally literally Vicky drove the golf cart and
into the restaurant and we asked for fireballs, which.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Was they had with lemon wood.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
They had no idea what fireball was, and we just
kept doing shots and.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But they kept bringing as drinks. Think you it was fireballs.
So we kept doing.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Ten ten and we were ended up in the pool
and then the other three came back like, oh were
the other three?
Speaker 5 (18:54):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
It was Heather, Lizzie and Megan.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And Megan they were somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
There was the housewife that was a housewife that nobody
ever saw Danielle.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
She came on for a full season as a housewive.
But then my first.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Season was Danielle. She's the one that needed to shut
the fuck up oil with me.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, oh, Shannon, get in saucy. Yeah, she didn't work
out and she didn't make it as a housewife.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Don't mess with me.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But you know what was really fun after we were
in was It Ireland? Was it Ireland? The last night
we all got to party with the with the crew
and you know, all the camera operators and the audio
and all that. We had so much we never went
to bed. So hence four o'clock in the morning, we
are getting ready to get on the airplane and all
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hell breaks loose and there's no cameras.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Oh so people were like filming in the hallways with iPhones.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It was, oh, I know that, So I have a
moment and I'll never forget it. The day that Camille
outed my abuse was standing straight across me with his
little monitor and the minute she said it, I'm staring
at him with a blank stare, and he was the
only person I could look at. I couldn't even look
I was in such shock. But it was just him
the whole time, and I just will never forget his
face in that moment.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Did you have any idea that it was coming?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No idea. I never thought anything. I would say it
out loud.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I don't know if you're aware of this, and I
don't want to bring this down, but the nine to
one to one phone call that you made is all
over Twitter. It is all over TikTok and you hear
there's a guy speaking to the cops. It was maybe
Russell's business partner or somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, it's the guy who came to protect me. He
was a world championship kickboxing Okay, him with me and.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You were there and Kennedy was with you as well.
It is I just, for the first time ever listened
to it the other day and it you are hysterically.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Did you know that I knew it was public right
after it happened for some reason all public.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Does Kennedy have any memory of this? And how is
she now? Kennedy?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I had her neuropsychologically evaluated after everything happened, and they
they did days and days of testing with her, and
they assured me that she was great psychologically. Was she
she was when he killed himself. She was five still. Yes,
So a blessing that came out of all the testing
was they identified that she had shades of dyslexia. They said,
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psychologically she's great, but in doing all this testing, we
think you should keep an eye on her for dyslexia.
So as much as it was a blessing because we
got ahead of her dyslexia so early because.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Of it day, does she talk about him or is
there any memory or anything?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You know? Doctor Sophie, who was my psychiatrist, he and
I kind of worked together to think about how to
message things to her when it all first happened, and
I just told her, like, your daddy was sick in
the head, you know. And I didn't tell her obviously
what happened. And then she was riding in her cars
on the way to school after it all happened, and
thank goodness, she was behind me because doctor Sophie said
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to remind her of him, And so I said, oh,
do you miss daddy? And she's like in oh, And
I said, okay, well some times I miss Daddy and
I remember like we went to Hawaii and I was
trying to give her some memories memories, yeah, And she
was like no in oh, And then a little bit
later she goes, Mommy, why would you miss a boy
that screamed at you all the.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Time remembers And just for the people that are listening
that have been in any part of like an abusive relationship,
at what point did and you can tell me you
don't want to answer, but like, at what point did
you know?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Like this isn't all right?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I knew very early on. And you know, it's a lot.
I do a lot of public speaking. I love speaking
at universities because I get to talk to freshman about
relationship inequality, red flags, all that kind of stuff, date rape,
things like that. Because I saw it from the very beginning.
I ran past all the red flags.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Do you think it was because like I was talking
to my family O night and I was just talking
to him, my dad. Actually, I was like, you know,
the one thing I've always craved in my life is
the ability to have unconditional love. And I just don't
know that I've ever one hundred per se percent felt
it like I always felt like there was condition it
was conditional.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, And do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You think is there a part of you that thinks
that I can change this person or is it what
I'm just asking, like, how how does somebody avoid it
when they're getting.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
To that place? Absolutely well. I grew up without a father,
and I tried to put boys in my life my
whole life, to try to give me validation. And I
had low self esteem, and so I would take like
any port in a storm, just anyone that would give
me attention, because that's really what I needed. And instead
of like working through it, that's how I put a
band aid on all of that. And so with with him,
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like he would do things and then he would have
this night and shining armor thing, which is very common
in the beginning of relationships with control more like this.
So I had a textile company and he was like,
you shouldn't work like I want to take care of you.
So then the financial control, you know, So I shut
my company down, and then you should have a baby,
you should be a mom. So now I've got that
with them, you know, And it's little by little. You know,
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somebody doesn't ask you on a date and punch you
in the face. It's a slow burn, so you know it. God, Yeah,
So you know, I mean I watched some episodes that
I was pretty taken aback with some of the things
that you were dealing with, and it was reminding me
and giving me chills in my life. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It got physical too.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, but watching it, I know the verbal abuses.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I was going to ask you because just recently, I
don't know if it suppressed memories or what. I will
walk through my house and I will go leave me
the fuck alone, Leave me the fuck alone. In my head,
I'll say that, and I'm like, why am I saying that?
Why am I saying that? Is that like suppressed memories
of what I went through when you know, when I
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was being told what to do and how to do
it and what to say and all the things, And
it's just so bizarre to me, Like I'm like, why
do you see a therapist? One of these things keep
popping in my head.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
That scene with you trying on dresses to go to
the party when everything is either too short, too long,
too backless, to this color that color.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, I was judged for everything I did know.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I was reliving that exact moment with you because you
cannot make it abus or happy.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, well, Shannon, you I was just saying I was
looking at Shannon's face. I said, as I'm sitting here
having this conversation, the fact that there's four of us here,
and all four of us, in one way or another,
have had some form of this happening. Imagine how many
women out there feel like they're alone?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, and I had Yeah, which they both.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Said that was worse.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Wait, No, it is because you just you feel like
you're just a piece of piece of shit. You just
like you can't do anything right.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, but do you feel like that has carried on
after you have been divorced and you have dated, in
the relationships you've been in, have you carried that with you?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I won't tolerate it, And how do I just got
to a point, and I did go to therapy for
a long time, but I'm not how to tolerate that.
I deal with that, you know, I don't know, and
it scares me. And I think all the time that
they're gonna at some point now I'm gonna get tarry.
At some point they're gonna come to me and say,
why didn't you protect us, Why did you stay for
so long? Why did you put us in front of.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
All this chaos?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
And you you asked you a question though.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, why did you?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Because I was it for the kids? Yeah, I thought
that I'm keeping my family together. And I would say, Shannon,
you've got a pretty nice life. You don't really get
along with him. Put a smile on your face and
be grateful. Yeah, that's what I would say to myself.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Are and are your parents still married?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Are yours?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Or my stepparents, my step father and my mother.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
No, my parents are divorced.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
All of us come from diororce.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah. Now, you had said recently that Sophie is in
a relationship and you've never seen her so happy, and
it's all about like they possibly might get married and
all these saying do you know what she do? You
feel like she's drawn to him because it's stability.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
No, she said, Mom. Now, I know what it's like
to be treated right by someone, and I just pray
that my twins meet someone like Sophie's boyfriend because he's
such a kind soul and I'm so grateful that.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, that makes me happy. That's yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Wow, Yeah, Hello, I know these are sad conversed.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I know these are sad, but these are conversations that
help other people out there, and other women, I'm sure
reach out to every one of you to talk to
you about their experience and abuse, cheating, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, I've been on the show nine seasons and people
still reach out about the offic Yeah, it happened the
day after my first day of Well.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Let's switch it up a little.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I do want to ask another relationship question, because Okay,
so you you met your husband prior to being on it,
like you were after Beverly Hills, but before being on
OC how do you guys know when you're meeting somebody
if they are good guys or they're opportunists and they want.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
To Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I never thought it would be with another man my
entire life, especially because as my life was unraveling, there
were so many secrets that I didn't know about, and
I felt like a deer in the headlights. I thought,
I'm going to drive my Mercedes down the street and
the side panels are going to fall off, And really
I've been drawing a Kia the whole time. Not there's
anything wrong with the keya. I'm just saying there were
so many lies like piling up on top of his death,
and so I was like I'm done. I'm never gonna
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be able to meet anyone because my whole life is
out there. But John and I had known each other before,
and he was he was he helped me with my
he was your lawyer, yeah, And so he helped me
for two years, and we hated each other because every
time he called me it was bad news, you know,
like another wheel fallen off the bus. So it was
two years of us just being friends. But he was
the only person I could trust.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And do you still feel the same.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, obviously like highs and lows of every marriage,
but like, what would you say the best thing about
him is for you?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
When he asked me to marry him, I said, I
will marry you, but you cannot change me because I
changed everything about myself and my first marriage and I
will not change. So you have to love me exactly
the way I am. And I'm a Gemini, so a
to me.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Oh my god, at least a virgo. Sorry Sam, No, no,
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And I was like that with Eddie as well, because
Simon has so much control of everything I said and
did and war and where I went, where I couldn't go,
and where I could go. That with Eddie. I, you know,
I didn't want him to change me, but yet the
fucked up part of my brain was, why is he
not trying to change me? Does he not love me?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Like worships the ground you walk on?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's why? Yeah, But I'm like, what, why is he
not telling me? No?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
No, no, because Puss either No, it's not like you.
He's a supporter. Yeah, like he's the supporter of you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He loves you, you're you know, he's your biggest Yeah,
he will I think you're in the wrong hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I think important day.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And he will say to me, do you really think
you should be doing that? And I'll be like, you're right, Okay,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's a good sounding board.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And Shannon, because now that you're in the dating world again,
how do you I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's interesting because the people that I find myself attracted to,
including John, like, they don't even they had never seen
the show.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So then once they see, once they're on the show,
do you think they get addicted to the fame? The
fame after you know, somebody else knows.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I don't know. I don't know. I wish I knew
the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like you'd seem like he cared at the beginning and
then all of a sudden, all.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Of a sudden, he's running for public But at.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
The very beginning, did you think he cared?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Oh, John Steve, Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I mean it was hard because he really when we
filmed with didn't he stayed away? But then all of
a sudden he was Instagram famous And what.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
About the cancer guy?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
He was obsessed. He was obsessed being famous as absolutely,
But yeah, you know it is. It is an issue,
like and I don't so far so good with me
being single. But you know, I don't know that I
could go into dating app.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Have you tried? No, No, we're going to lunch. What
we have to get you on one of those fancy
ones that you have to be accepted, right Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, Ry, maybe you can date Perry.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
He's very prevalent.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
What I am?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I am fifty nine years old, and you know, sometimes
it takes you're not just to get to know someone.
I would prefer to be introduced to someone by a
friend because then it can pick up the phone goes
see I always like this.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Well it's not how the last one happened.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Little I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the four months and
you didn't have sex, Like what's your rule?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Like you wait a year?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
No, it wasn't you know. I okay, No it wasn't
It wasn't me. It wasn't me waiting. I think that
there was a lot of feelings between the two of us,
and we knew that if it got to that point.
And by the way, I haven't slept with that many people.
To me, sex is the ultimate connection because it's that
one thing that you have more than that person with you,
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the one thing you have with that person that nobody
else can do. Nobody else can have sex with that
person because I'm a monogamous. So sex to me is
a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Like put out to me.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
So he couldn't get more. He felt that he felt this.
How old is he felt the same age? He was
my age. He's very tin and Taylor met him. Taylor
met him.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I did you like him? Yeah, I mean I feel
like he was quiet, but then around you, it's kind
of like a forced.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But this is my hot mess sister saying that.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I mean, it's true, like I feel like all of us.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know, you have your men and there's going to
be moments where they're going to have their louder side,
but like we're kind of all loud mouth know at all?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's yeah, But I was I gave him. I gave
him his attention.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I thought you just were going to say I didn't.
I gave him.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It's a very sexual person. I did four months not
having sex with a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It was shocking.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
And then okay, I need to know the night of
will of fortune.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's called family.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, okay, Pat say Jack, you're confusing. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
They don't call me Teddy Walters for nothing. Let me
pull up my notes. Did you hook up with John?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
You know what he did? Stay over like where it's
a comfort.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I don't appreciate you dodging the answer.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yes if you bang them no?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
No, yes or no?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
We you know what we are. We we have conversations.
We're at with your vagina getting back together, but you
have a song. But ever getting back together?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
By the way, I will, I will have to tell
you this. When Shannon found out, you know that Mexico man,
the Mexico man was not going to go to family feud,
wanted a date. She She called me and said, how
do you feel if I brought John, and I said,
I don't care. I don't have a John with John.
I'm not judgmental in the sense that John's always been
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nice to me and to Eddie, and Eddie likes him.
So I'm like, yeah, bring him, I don't care. And
so she's like, are you sure? Is it going to
be weird to go?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So she brought him and the first day that we
were there, we were there a day early, we were
doing some tiktoks and we looked at John and said,
get out of the TikTok. You cannot be on the TikTok.
We don't want anybody you guys do.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
A shitty job of it because I saw him there.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, well he was leaning against the pole.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Where's Waldo like? And he was in it? So she said,
who cares?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, sorry, I'm asks this question and Tamer gets mad
every time I ask him.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Oh God, So you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Have to pick from the current guys that people are
in relationships with on the Real Housewives of Orange County
who you would want to have sex with?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So who are options right now?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Shane Travis, Terry to Brow Okay, I'm definitely marrying Terry
to Brow.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No, it's it's not Mary shag Kill, it's just shag No.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I didn't do marry. I didn't do all the things
just to have such, but not after four and a
half Shannon likes.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
To do Yeah, just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, I mean, Eddie's the hottest, but you because that
would be very terry to.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Brow, super funny.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Terry is really funny and you can always get champagne after.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, So you're gonna and maybe maybe even a Cardier bracelet.
So you're gonna bang Terry to Brow.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And you're if I'm in a bank terry, then we
could do a threeesome. Oh there you go, there we go.
Have you guys ever done a three soome? No?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And I never will?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
You know, I have.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What are your thoughts on what's going on with Tom
Sannibal and downerpup rules?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I just get bits and pieces and I don't know
those people. I know the old VP rules.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
She knows them, she's out with that.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I know most of them.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Do you think that from coming from somebody who you
were married to?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
A am I allowed to say serial cheater?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
One cheated that?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You know that?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I know one that you know?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, so one cheater. Do you think that it
was premeditated? And do you think somebody that cheats does
it because they're just so selfish or they just don't
care about how the other person feels.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Okay, this is kind of I can analogize it to
my relationship. I think that after nine years they were
in a relationship where both weren't the happiest and one
of the people decided to go outside the marriage or
the relationship. And that's what I don't agree on. I
get it that relationships can fizzle out, but you don't cheat,
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you leave and.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Then and that's what I was married before.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And I told my ex husband, I said, listen, I
love you, You're my best friend. But there's something where
whenever I have a couple of drinks, I want Matt damon,
I don't want to have sex with you.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I don't know why this is happening, but like, this
has got to be a problem.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, but if you are, you did it right.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
And so then we go.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But it was really hard, and my heart was still
broken for years because he was my comfort, he was
all of these things, and we had to end our
relationship for it.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
But were you married.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I can totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We were together for like five years. We were married
a year, But my dad told me the day I
walked down the aisle.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
He looked at me and goes, you don't have to
do this.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Where is he now?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
He's in San Francisco and he's great. Huh, he's married,
she's great. We still continue to be best friends until
he got engaged again.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It right, yeah, because it's.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
John John and to be this just is just to
show you that the friendship that John and I have
We've had that discussion today. We are friends, but we
realized that as soon as one of us gets into
a serious relationship, that friendship is going to have to
die down.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But I'm here to tell you I didn't like that
he was at that What's Up place? You guys?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Quiet woman?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
And he started dating that girl, the girl that was
the girl he dated for a while, but there was
no spark and they're not together anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But either way, I didn't like that he picked that location.
There's plenty of understand that.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
We had a conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Do you apologize or he was like, Oh, it's just
my favorite place.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He grew up. He grew up in Newpark. So he said,
I've been going there since I'm twenty one, and my
my answer was, yeah, I've been going there a lot
less years than your place. You need to piss you
through the plane's place.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
That's your as to him. Likes to say that's your
iconic moment.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But so I said, if it's important enough for you
to claim that territory, then it might come with consequences.
And it did.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
When it comes to the cheating thing with my girlfriends
who've been cheated on, I feel like the guys always
cheat down.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Oh always, because that's gonna make.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Make them feel better about themselves. Like when Kelsey cheated
on Camille and then like the girl's picture came out,
I was like, what you left Camille hot body for
that situation? That was weird, But I feel like it's common.
Do you feel like David cheated down?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Okay, oh the cheat one absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Silent.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
But guys times I have to go on too her
instagram like a freaking loser.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Oh no, no, that's the current wife. That's a different person.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I get really excited every time they file.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That's the that's the wife, that's the w that's the
way God.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That's different from David's divorce attorney is my divorce attorney.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, he's the happiest.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You don't want to fuck with, not want to with
the Monarchs best. If you guys need a divorce in
your Orange County, Danny and Michael Monarch are your guys.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I said this on the Reunion a second season. David's
a fair got football seats at USC like literally eight
rows in front of us, so we would see them.
They would literally walk up the staircase with the girl
he was with, the with the husband, like they never
got divorced, and I would say, look at her and
look at me, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
But what I have noticed for very like women, affluent women,
they want to always give the illusion that marriages are perfect,
that everything's great.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So we and they're all banging each other, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Well not just that, but like just ship, Like why
why is women?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Can we not say, like, listen, there's really good fucking weeks,
and there's great weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
And there's bad.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
There's some weeks where I really love it and I
would do anything for it.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
In another reason, I'm like, who are you, I want
to kick your throat and the that's me nuts.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's everyone, everyone who's honest.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
One last question you guys. So Brabo has announced that
Braba Khan is in Las Vegas this year.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
What are you?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And you both went to Brava Khan last year last November?
What was there any weird moments of Brava con anybody
treat you bad? Anybody that you.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, okay, the most bizarre thing that happened. I was
in your room and we were sharing glam. Yeah, and
this this woman walks in and just plops down in
the makeup chair and now it was my turn Genshaw,
and I didn't know who she was, and I'm like,
who's the pitch in the makeup chair that's not staying
in our room with us? And everybody's like, oh, that's
Genshaw from Salt Lake. And so one of the little
friends in the room filled me out on the whole story,
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right because I'm a little behind, and I'm like, what
the fuck. I don't even think she's supposed to be here,
Like she was kind of banned from Bravocon.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Remember she got she escorted out right at the party
after the and then she had an entourage, and so
my room was next door to yours.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And the next thing I know, she's in my room
and she's plotting out how she's going to sleep in
my room because she was like, wait, you know she's
like a hotel room. No, she had no hotel room.
She had like three guys with her, and so.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
The jewelist and the security guard yes, wait, and they
all four wanted to yes.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
So they're like, one of us can sleep on the bank.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
And she only has three women, right.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
And Jen's like, I can sleep in your bed with you.
And I'm like, I don't know you. I have no
idea who you are. Why are you in my room?
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (42:44):
It was so bizarre. And so then I was changing
into a jumpsuit to wear over to Bravocon and I
was getting with her kissed because she wouldn't get the
hell out of my room with all of her friends,
and I just happened to say, this jumpsuit looks a
lot cute around me than the one you're about to
be wearing.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Oh oh, by the way, we just.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Kay, is that an indication of what a great addition
you are this season? In real housewise?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I think what she needs to do with her new
outfit is belt it?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I don't think they have belts, and I don't think
you can belt because then you mbody.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
She did have accessories on them in the yard.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
She had sunglasses, sharings, yeah, and good and some good
hair too.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I think she kept her exceps. Well, why I thought
Teresa had to take her extensions out when she went
and I have really pretty hair.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Shannon, who is your best and worst experience of Bravo con?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I will say that the people that I was most
excited to meet was anyone from any of the below
Deck franchises. Really, as I am all, you watched one
and you were hooked? My friend, I love.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
What do you want to go on below deck? Because
I have you have to pay just my fife. I
talked to casting.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I grew up on boats.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Oh yeah, I have seen you on some boats. Okay,
who is your favor? But then who was your least
favorite person? You have to pick both.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Well, I could say my favorite was seeing the Beverly
Hills cast because I hadn't seen them until long.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Oh yeah, I was so drunk.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I remember I was coming or going.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Well, I remember being in the room and Taylor's getting glammed,
and Vicky came in and she refused to speak any
words to me.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
In your bed, I.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Remember you laying on the bed. You had a pink
suit on it.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, And I was like waiting to get touched up.
And Vicky came in and we're like can we put
music on? And she goes, can you turn this down?
It's annoying, and.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
When I was like, yes, I'd much rather awkward silence. Silence.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Remember when she left, She's like, bye Tamra, Bye Tommy.
And she didn't say anything to you.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
By the way, did you notice that our interview was Ramona.
She would not acknowledge me as a human being.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
She know your name, Well, fine.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
It's happened to me.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
But.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Like what did she think?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
She thought she was Gina.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
She would just ga no, She's like, do you have kids?
I would say, how's Avery? Do you have kids?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Gina from OSTI?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, but that's Romona. She's been like that.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
She finally apologized and said I'm sorry that she's always.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Trying to say. But I would be like, so, Romona,
how are your kids?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like I'm just giving a vague thing, and she'd be
like camera let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
And I was like, I just fucking asked you the question.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And then I go, finally halfway through, because she wouldn't
even make eye contact with me through zoom, I go, I.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Have a question, and this is something from an ego way.
I just was really curious. I go, do you know
my name?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
And she was like yeah, uh, Teddy, medal Line, Medelene
come and I was like uh.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
And I even asked her, I go, do you know
her dad? Because that's like a very well known nurname, right,
and she's like, yeah, Sean Middleton. I'm like, no, I've never.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Had it's our first guest that you asked the blame question.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm like, why did you say all the Legacy people
were losers and now you're allegedly cast as one. And
she's like, well, I didn't mean it that way. I'm like, well,
then what way did you mean it?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Like, I'm not on it. That's romon Is, that is Romota.
That's why she's good TV. Yeah, and that's why they
need her.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And he did say her blood type is blanc, So
maybe we should just kind of keep that.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
If you could pick any other franchise to be on,
which one would it be?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I know the answer for you, Tamra, because you like
to stir that pot.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
New Jersey, Jersey, New York hands tand New York.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Even the new one now with the old if there was.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
And then just put them out of the equation.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Who would you be Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Oh, let's go Atlanta and Atlanta they would eat you up.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You know what they did us. You know what you're not.
You don't have a lot of confidence in me.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I don't because I need I like, I have no
fear and I know that season.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
They don't drink enough in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Ye I need season nine, Shannon even nine.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
What would you say, Well, what's the biggest party city? Miami?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Miami's where I'd want to be. I feel like I
would do mine. I would thrive the most, and.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I would need to get a DBL or whatever they're called.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well, the next time you guys see me, and my
tits are bigger than my ass is bigger than my tits,
you're gonna be Maybe it's no.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Brazilian butt left.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Oh, like they suck stuff from everywhere and then they
put it in your butt.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
No, you do not need one. You have a big
enough cameltal.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I mean I can get in the front.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
You're gonna be you have a bigger butt than it's
gonna make your camel.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Toal even more. It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
We are going out to lunch.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Oh and it continues. What time is it like?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
We're going to meet a few more We're going to
meet a few more housewives. That's right.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
We're gonna have some special guests.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I'm on forty six and it's asleep and you can
you can sleep in the uber.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
I can sleep when I'm dead. All right, you guys
for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Please, thank for having me.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
We have a very special episode coming with Tamra's mom
and sially my mom. I haven't even asked her yet
because I'm so embarrassed about all the things she could
potentially say about me, because I like to really pretend that,
like I have my sha.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I told my mom balls the wall, Mom, say whatever
you want.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I'm pretty sure Sandy's got that member.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Sandy's got it, Sandy has no fear.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Maybe you guys could have my mom on and you
could ease her into the season.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Thank you, guys, Thank you subscribe, listen, give us reviews,
Tell us, how great or how horrible we are.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Do all the things.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Just make sure that you put five stars and you
leave her review. Don't be lazy, just like actually write
something out, even if it's like Teddy is so amazing
and doesn't know the English language and Tarra doesn't know
how to say inner rusting.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
Or champions championing, championing. Alright, bye bye, thank you
Speaker 2 (49:12):
M hm
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Camorrid Judge.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And today we have two special oc guests.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So we're here with Shannon Best known for being a
cast member on the Real Housewives of Orange County. She
joined the cast in season nine. She's the owner and
founder of Real for Real and she has three daughters.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We all professional Teddy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We also have Taylor Armstrong. Taylor Armstrong is known as
an original cast member of the Bravo reality series The
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. In twenty twenty two, was
announced that she would join the Real Housewives of Orange County,
making her the first housewife to transfer franchises. She moved
to Orange County nearly ten years ago and has been
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brought into the circle after be becoming fast friends with Tamra.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Okay, wait a minute, I will have to say, Taylor,
you are truly like the Vault because you were interviewing
to be on oh SE and never told me. You
know how I found out? Oh when I was interviewing, Well,
I guess they were coming.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
If you call interviewer, they know who I am. They
accidentally sent me an email for you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
If she told you, would you have kept it secret exactly?
Maybe that's why she kept it quiet.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't keep secrets.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You know that, Well, I kind of no.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You wait until it's the most uncomfortable time for you
to release the secret.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, and then yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's it's yeah, it's my secret power.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Good.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I knew that, and I didn't say anything. And then finally,
after I got hired, I said to Alex and said,
you know, I got this email, and he goes, No.
Taylor is like the Vault. She does not repeat anything
that's told to her.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's true, true, which is good for you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
My next question is for Shannon, because I don't know
if you remember, but right when me and taram Are
started the podcast, I reached out to you.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I sent you a text message.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was a strong text from NAPA.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah I remember you never responded to me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, let me just tell you. She wanted us to
get back together as friends, and I'm saying no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Before she was ever cast, before there was passion.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I always said, I like Shannon, I think you're making
a mistake.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I understand that there is.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And you had Shannon's phone umber on your phone.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I know because we had a moment at Andy Cohen's
baby shower.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, we had fun, like and I liked her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And I said, listen, I understand I have recently been
fired myself, and the friendship's change and they are they
made you know, there's an uncomfortable level to some people
because they don't want to make you feel bad after
you're gone. And I don't know all of the specifics,
I said, but I just want you to talk to
Shannon because I do think that you guys have a
true friendship.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So I called Shanna.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
She didn't answer, and then I texted and guess what,
she didn't respond.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's because she has nine hundred unanswered text messages.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But also to just clarify, Tamor was saying a lot
of things out there in the press and my choice,
my choice was not to engage.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You engaged, So.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You did engage a bit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I said, it's some of the stuff you're hearing is
not true. It's not true. So yeah, I'm going to
defend myself. But I didn't say much beyond that, because
I wasn't going to do that. So to respond to
you and be two against one, it wasn't what.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I was coming for you and that message.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I of course, yeah, but I was.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was actually very I was very nice, and I
just said I missed they'all's friendship together. Please call us,
and let's.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
When she called you, I ran out the door.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, I will say, like, what are you doing? I
will say, and I've said this, so I think I can.
I never, in my wildest dreams, thought that I would
be reunited with this one.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I really do. Really it was that bad.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I thought that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think, when you are so close to somebody and
then something happens you, you just the pain is so
bad that you want to block out all the good
and just think about the bad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Right, But I didn't think that there would be even
a situation where we would be with each other again,
and to be able to be in this position right now,
I'm absolutely grateful to have my friend back. And when
we finally work through things, and by the way, there's
a lot that we had to work through, it was
like snap the fingers.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's a sisterhood.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Two and a half years didn't even happen.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm just saying you could have written back and just
say I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, she's not very good at it.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm not a good time. I'm not What are you
like my dad's well, I'm kind of pity. How old
is your dad because I think I'm about his age.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Seventy two?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, that's my mom's age.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
How old are you, Shannon?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm fifty nine. Damn it, you look really good.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
We're going to have a pig giant sixtieth.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Absolutely, I need to ask more freaking questions. I'm sorry,
I'm not done. So I saw there was a TikTok
and I saw John Jansen in it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, this is after.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Are you talking about that la article?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
There's all these things. But then I saw him now
at the gym as well with you.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, we ran into each other there.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But why did you post?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I got mad at Tamra because I said, when
they hung out that night and everyone's drinking and having fun,
did you ask Shannon if maybe you put just the
tip in?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
And she said I did not ask Shannon. I said no,
and I said, well I am going.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
To okay, well I will say slip. I know I
will say that I was dating someone and I asked
that person to come to the family feud. But we
ended things right before.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Why this was the Mexico guy.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
The Mexico guy. I know you posted him on you
know what I said? Are you ready to be done? No?
You guys, we went out for four months. I was
ready to post that he's my official boyfriend. And then
you know, this is why this is my piece of
dating advice to people. If you think you like someone,
go away for them, go away with them for the weekend,
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because that's when you know you're on the trip. And
then it's like, you know what, this isn't really working well?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What made you guys such different type of travelers? Like
for me, I knew I could travel with Tamra because
she didn't bug me about a bunch of like what
all are you packing?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
What are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Are we going?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, like what's the exact timing? She could just kind
of go with the flow and then we just could
figure it out. But there are some people that are
like very high maintenance travelers, and I'm like, it was.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
More it was more spending time with someone and realizing
that you're not on the same page.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, you also were spending more than just a few
hours with him.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You were like, yeah, and we dated for four months
like regularly kids like him. They yeah, they did, Yeah,
they did. But he's I needed a date and I
you know what, I Everyone's going to give me a
lot of hell for this, but I was blindsided by
what happened with John. I was so heartbroken. I can't
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even tell you. But now that we're almost eight months
into it, I would much prefer to be friendly and
not be bitter because I don't have room for that negativity.
And we are friends, and that is that is what
we are as friends. So I have not been you
were friends, And to be sure, to be clear, I
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have not. I have not. I have not been intimate.
I have not been intimate with anyone since, and that
means sex. But was there job with anyone since John Janssen?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I have hold on He dated the guy for four months,
he went with you to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You didn't even touch you.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You didn't even dry ump. No, did you give him
a blowy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No hand job, dry humping?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Oh my gosh, honestly I would break up with you too.
Nothing what we're doing?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
She broke up with him because I think he wasn't
putting out, But.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
No, I felt like I fell for him.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Maybe he can't get hard.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Oh that's it. That's a con that's.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's and we're really talking about this right now.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, I have a question. Did you ever wash your
hair the entire girls trip? Because it stayed perfectly quaffed
the entire time. And these are the things I wonder like,
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I'm like, I saw Vicky come out and some days
her hair looked like she had put her finger in
an electrical socket.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I tried to help her, that's Vicky.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
So did you watch OC before joining?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know, I had seen some of the very first episodes,
so I kind of knew the old history, but I've
been catching up on the most recent history because I'm
getting to know the other girls, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You actually hang out with some of the girls that
were on in previous years, which would be Lynn Curtin
my Curtain, Tammy Knickerbocker, and Peggy Tanno's of course, Vicky
Vicky are those they? Ever? How did they take it
when you got cast on Orange County? And were they
do they? Kind of like I want to be on
can you bring me to a party.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I think a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
What did you think of me now that you've seen
like old episodes? To catch up?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I was, I was trying to catch up on your
relationship because I came into it. It was different, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
What season did you watch? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Like bits? And I have a friend who's obsessed, and
so he just showed me like bits and pieces of
different seasons so I could piece together everything and try
to do a quick catch up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, what'd you think of Shannon?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, you guys were close and then you were.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What we're getting in is did you like Do you
like me well as a viewer?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I like you now as a viewer as a kind
of team camera. So I came in smart.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I have another question for Shannon? What you trip and
fall a lot or like stumble?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Is this like and not good?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Squad?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But you're not drinking when these things are happening? Are
you like a very clumsy human being?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
My balance is a bit off, but I am exercising
every single day.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You give squad?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Wait, like are you can you give us a squad?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Give me?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Give me a squad right now?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Okay, let's okay, Okay, this is my ability.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh yeah, to have your knees over the toes and heels.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Do you remember when you came to Cut Fitness years
ago and you were trying to do a squad and
you had to hold onto a Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But was it Shannon last?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I never watched the beginning, But was it Shannon
last year or the year before? You guys were all
out and someone was annoying me maybe.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And then there was like a fall at the table.
Was that Vicky or was that Fanish? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I fell over on the I remember that. But I
kept those six sombreros on.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But you know what, we never saw that if you
had an inny ear and out he's so congratulations to
you for keeping that under.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Wraps because the SPANX is typically covering it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh, when you went in the koozy when Tam jumped
in and broke her foot with laser, did you have
spankx on?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes? Do you ever not have SPANX on?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You might see me and spanks doing something.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, maybe the reason you never had sex is because young,
So I didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't need them. No, when I went, when I
went there, no, not no. When I don't go when okay,
and thanks for saying his name.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Sorry, But when I when I went with Plexico Man,
Mexico Man, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, you do, You're not an easy leg because that's
a lot of like, wait, she just said, there's a.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Hole in the middle. I just threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
There's a hole in the middle of a spank. And
at one point I made a mistake and tried to
pee through it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that went, yeah, why would you wear spanks?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Why would you ever?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Because I couldn't wear underwear, was like, yeah, sometimes you
just like I didn't want to have an underwear line.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
But to be clear, there were moments in my life
where I would put up to five on Shannon.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have a question. Yes, she's not choking, Shannon, I
have a question. Yeah, Ultimate Girls Trip. Is this something
you want to do? Who would you? Who would be
your dreamcast?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Well, first of all, lightly, I have I have coined.
I haven't asked. I have coined myself on vacation, Shannon,
because I am quite fine on vacation typically don't go
to bed. And I was asked to go last minute
on Thailand. But I think I had like a week
to prepare and didn't work out. It didn't work out.
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So I would love to be on Ultimate Girl's Trap. Teddy,
you haven't been on yet?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I know. Do you think it should be our?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Super fun? I think?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Do you think Tama would get jealous? So if we
became besties?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yes? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
No no, yes, if we had like a real connection
and I was like, sorry, Tama, I got to call
you back.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I'm on with Shannon.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well can you you would you be able to call
Vicky and tell her that there's a new trace in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Oh my god? Stop?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But I think it would be fun to be on
with Margaret and Dolores. I haven't been on. Oh, I
would love to do that, and Sonya.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I want somebody from Miami.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But like I love Larsa.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think that Chara would be super fun. We just
time with her. Oh, I love love Charay and Marlot
was really sweet too.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I liked Marlow too, But I'm scared what if I, like,
did something to piss her off. I feel like she
could maybe make me cry.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You don't cry, Who are you fooling?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You're tough.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Teddy doesn't cry.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I cried when I was on the show We Will.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We all do?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Made your crime be that's so embarrassing, So okay, let's change.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Things around Taylor.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
What is your relationship like with Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I haven't talked to her in years?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's Teddy's best friend.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Really tight?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You are you and the LVP?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you haven't talked to her in years?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Not in years? I mean if I saw her, we'd
be cordial.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But what was your experience filming with her?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
My experience filming with her is lisas smart as a fox,
and she's always knows three questions before she's really trying
to get.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do you think when Camille said the things that she
said to you, do you think that Lisa Vanner Pump
put her up to it?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think she, yes, camis Camil's not that smart, come
up with it clearly always, so it's calculated.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Oh, I think she listen.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Camille's lovely, but Camille will do anything to get the
paycheck last minute. Because I saw Camille recently, I filmed
one time I saw her and I realized that the
camera wasn't following her, so I was like, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
To down shit. I gotta get over to some other people.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But I looked at her and there was this moment
and I just went, ah, hell Camille, and we like
laughed and like gave each other a hug. But there
was like that moment of just I really feel like
she does what she feels like she has to do
to be on the show at any particular time, which
is why I always had a problem with her. Like, listen,
if you truly think I'm an asshole, if you truly
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think that I was mean to your kid, if you
truly think I'm this person, be that way to me
all the time. Don't just be that way to me
on camera.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But I will disagree with you that one thing you
said she does it all at the last minute for
the paycheck. She was on h with no paycheck forever. Well,
that was doing that fine fame, fine fame exactly. Let
me she doesn't need a paycheck.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Who was your favorite person to work with on Beverly Hills, You.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Know, God bless her but Kim Richards because she just
stressed me out so much. And there her relationship with Kyle,
you know, it's long and complicated and it's too much
for the cameras to even understand. But she was hard
for me to film with. I never knew what she
was going to do. It was always erratic.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Can you explain to me the cat meme? I don't
understand it. I don't get it. I didn't watch them,
and the cat meme took over for the entire COVID.
Every fucking meme was there. But one years later, I
don't get it, explained.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't get it either. The first time I saw it,
I sent it to Kyle and she was like, I
don't get it, and I read her back. I was like,
she's like, I don't get I don't get it either,
and then it just kept happening. People are so creative
and maybe have a little too much time on their hands,
but I think it's hysterical. And here's the best part.
So Smudge the cat.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The cat has a cat.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's his name Smudge Lord, because what cat was it.
It's a random house cat. But he had nothing to
do with real house one nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, the cat wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The cat was not there.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The cat Foo the dog.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's a famous The cat has one point six million
Instagram follow and he has an agent and a publicist
because of you. I think before me, I think the
cat's more famous than sweaters.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Nobody bought it from me though, just.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
And there's Christmas sweaters of me and the cat. There's
Halloween costumes of the cat and me. I have no idea.
It's totally crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Did you put the cat on the map or no?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think the cat put me?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But hold on, was that mean whatever it's specifying at
that point in time, was that before or after you
got in the suitcase?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That was? It was so funny that you say that
because I said to my mom, I go, I might
have some weird moments this season, just so you know,
and she goes, well, it'll never be as bad as
you in a suitcase, honey, so don't.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Worry the cat.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I remember that the cat was after the suitcase. But
the cat, I don't know. It's been frigging crazy. So
smudge lord, he's the king.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh my god, Shannon. I got to ask you, out
of all the trips that you have had on Orange County,
what was your favorite and why?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Okay, I'm going to say that the best trip was
number one, Ireland. Yes, except with the buss the bus
from hell No. I was yelling, so that kind of
but it didn't still wreck that bond. But the other trip,
very close second was to.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
He can we talk about Stahiti who was on the
cast st.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Oh, that was fun. What year was that?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It was my second It was my second year of
season ten s T season ten, and so I didn't
realize that sometimes on cast strips that you split up.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And we were all.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Supposed to go to the champagne place and picking tamers
show up at my door and they say we're not going,
and there they start filling my glass with street vodka
and we literally literally Vicky drove the golf cart and
into the restaurant and we asked for fireballs, which.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Was they had with lemon wood.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
They had no idea what fireball was, and we just
kept doing shots and.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But they kept bringing as drinks. Think you it was fireballs.
So we kept doing.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Ten ten and we were ended up in the pool
and then the other three came back like, oh were
the other three?
Speaker 5 (18:54):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
It was Heather, Lizzie and Megan.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And Megan they were somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
There was the housewife that was a housewife that nobody
ever saw Danielle.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
She came on for a full season as a housewive.
But then my first.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Season was Danielle. She's the one that needed to shut
the fuck up oil with me.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, oh, Shannon, get in saucy. Yeah, she didn't work
out and she didn't make it as a housewife.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Don't mess with me.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But you know what was really fun after we were
in was It Ireland? Was it Ireland? The last night
we all got to party with the with the crew
and you know, all the camera operators and the audio
and all that. We had so much we never went
to bed. So hence four o'clock in the morning, we
are getting ready to get on the airplane and all
(19:54):
hell breaks loose and there's no cameras.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Oh so people were like filming in the hallways with iPhones.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It was, oh, I know that, So I have a
moment and I'll never forget it. The day that Camille
outed my abuse was standing straight across me with his
little monitor and the minute she said it, I'm staring
at him with a blank stare, and he was the
only person I could look at. I couldn't even look
I was in such shock. But it was just him
the whole time, and I just will never forget his
face in that moment.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Did you have any idea that it was coming?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No idea. I never thought anything. I would say it
out loud.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I don't know if you're aware of this, and I
don't want to bring this down, but the nine to
one to one phone call that you made is all
over Twitter. It is all over TikTok and you hear
there's a guy speaking to the cops. It was maybe
Russell's business partner or somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, it's the guy who came to protect me. He
was a world championship kickboxing Okay, him with me and.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You were there and Kennedy was with you as well.
It is I just, for the first time ever listened
to it the other day and it you are hysterically.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Did you know that I knew it was public right
after it happened for some reason all public.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Does Kennedy have any memory of this? And how is
she now? Kennedy?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I had her neuropsychologically evaluated after everything happened, and they
they did days and days of testing with her, and
they assured me that she was great psychologically. Was she
she was when he killed himself. She was five still. Yes,
So a blessing that came out of all the testing
was they identified that she had shades of dyslexia. They said,
(21:29):
psychologically she's great, but in doing all this testing, we
think you should keep an eye on her for dyslexia.
So as much as it was a blessing because we
got ahead of her dyslexia so early because.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Of it day, does she talk about him or is
there any memory or anything?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You know? Doctor Sophie, who was my psychiatrist, he and
I kind of worked together to think about how to
message things to her when it all first happened, and
I just told her, like, your daddy was sick in
the head, you know. And I didn't tell her obviously
what happened. And then she was riding in her cars
on the way to school after it all happened, and
thank goodness, she was behind me because doctor Sophie said
(22:05):
to remind her of him, And so I said, oh,
do you miss daddy? And she's like in oh, And
I said, okay, well some times I miss Daddy and
I remember like we went to Hawaii and I was
trying to give her some memories memories, yeah, And she
was like no in oh, And then a little bit
later she goes, Mommy, why would you miss a boy
that screamed at you all the.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Time remembers And just for the people that are listening
that have been in any part of like an abusive relationship,
at what point did and you can tell me you
don't want to answer, but like, at what point did
you know?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Like this isn't all right?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I knew very early on. And you know, it's a lot.
I do a lot of public speaking. I love speaking
at universities because I get to talk to freshman about
relationship inequality, red flags, all that kind of stuff, date rape,
things like that. Because I saw it from the very beginning.
I ran past all the red flags.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Do you think it was because like I was talking
to my family O night and I was just talking
to him, my dad. Actually, I was like, you know,
the one thing I've always craved in my life is
the ability to have unconditional love. And I just don't
know that I've ever one hundred per se percent felt
it like I always felt like there was condition it
was conditional.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, And do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You think is there a part of you that thinks
that I can change this person or is it what
I'm just asking, like, how how does somebody avoid it
when they're getting.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
To that place? Absolutely well. I grew up without a father,
and I tried to put boys in my life my
whole life, to try to give me validation. And I
had low self esteem, and so I would take like
any port in a storm, just anyone that would give
me attention, because that's really what I needed. And instead
of like working through it, that's how I put a
band aid on all of that. And so with with him,
(23:52):
like he would do things and then he would have
this night and shining armor thing, which is very common
in the beginning of relationships with control more like this.
So I had a textile company and he was like,
you shouldn't work like I want to take care of you.
So then the financial control, you know, So I shut
my company down, and then you should have a baby,
you should be a mom. So now I've got that
with them, you know, And it's little by little. You know,
(24:13):
somebody doesn't ask you on a date and punch you
in the face. It's a slow burn, so you know it. God, Yeah,
So you know, I mean I watched some episodes that
I was pretty taken aback with some of the things
that you were dealing with, and it was reminding me
and giving me chills in my life. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It got physical too.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, but watching it, I know the verbal abuses.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I was going to ask you because just recently, I
don't know if it suppressed memories or what. I will
walk through my house and I will go leave me
the fuck alone, Leave me the fuck alone. In my head,
I'll say that, and I'm like, why am I saying that?
Why am I saying that? Is that like suppressed memories
of what I went through when you know, when I
(24:54):
was being told what to do and how to do
it and what to say and all the things, And
it's just so bizarre to me, Like I'm like, why
do you see a therapist? One of these things keep
popping in my head.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
That scene with you trying on dresses to go to
the party when everything is either too short, too long,
too backless, to this color that color.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, I was judged for everything I did know.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I was reliving that exact moment with you because you
cannot make it abus or happy.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, well, Shannon, you I was just saying I was
looking at Shannon's face. I said, as I'm sitting here
having this conversation, the fact that there's four of us here,
and all four of us, in one way or another,
have had some form of this happening. Imagine how many
women out there feel like they're alone?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, and I had Yeah, which they both.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Said that was worse.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Wait, No, it is because you just you feel like
you're just a piece of piece of shit. You just
like you can't do anything right.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, but do you feel like that has carried on
after you have been divorced and you have dated, in
the relationships you've been in, have you carried that with you?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I won't tolerate it, And how do I just got
to a point, and I did go to therapy for
a long time, but I'm not how to tolerate that.
I deal with that, you know, I don't know, and
it scares me. And I think all the time that
they're gonna at some point now I'm gonna get tarry.
At some point they're gonna come to me and say,
why didn't you protect us, Why did you stay for
so long? Why did you put us in front of.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
All this chaos?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
And you you asked you a question though.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, why did you?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Because I was it for the kids? Yeah, I thought
that I'm keeping my family together. And I would say, Shannon,
you've got a pretty nice life. You don't really get
along with him. Put a smile on your face and
be grateful. Yeah, that's what I would say to myself.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Are and are your parents still married?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Are yours?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Or my stepparents, my step father and my mother.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
No, my parents are divorced.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
All of us come from diororce.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah. Now, you had said recently that Sophie is in
a relationship and you've never seen her so happy, and
it's all about like they possibly might get married and
all these saying do you know what she do? You
feel like she's drawn to him because it's stability.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
No, she said, Mom. Now, I know what it's like
to be treated right by someone, and I just pray
that my twins meet someone like Sophie's boyfriend because he's
such a kind soul and I'm so grateful that.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, that makes me happy. That's yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Wow, Yeah, Hello, I know these are sad conversed.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I know these are sad, but these are conversations that
help other people out there, and other women, I'm sure
reach out to every one of you to talk to
you about their experience and abuse, cheating, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, I've been on the show nine seasons and people
still reach out about the offic Yeah, it happened the
day after my first day of Well.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Let's switch it up a little.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I do want to ask another relationship question, because Okay,
so you you met your husband prior to being on it,
like you were after Beverly Hills, but before being on
OC how do you guys know when you're meeting somebody
if they are good guys or they're opportunists and they want.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
To Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I never thought it would be with another man my
entire life, especially because as my life was unraveling, there
were so many secrets that I didn't know about, and
I felt like a deer in the headlights. I thought,
I'm going to drive my Mercedes down the street and
the side panels are going to fall off, And really
I've been drawing a Kia the whole time. Not there's
anything wrong with the keya. I'm just saying there were
so many lies like piling up on top of his death,
and so I was like I'm done. I'm never gonna
(28:25):
be able to meet anyone because my whole life is
out there. But John and I had known each other before,
and he was he was he helped me with my
he was your lawyer, yeah, And so he helped me
for two years, and we hated each other because every
time he called me it was bad news, you know,
like another wheel fallen off the bus. So it was
two years of us just being friends. But he was
the only person I could trust.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And do you still feel the same.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, obviously like highs and lows of every marriage,
but like, what would you say the best thing about
him is for you?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
When he asked me to marry him, I said, I
will marry you, but you cannot change me because I
changed everything about myself and my first marriage and I
will not change. So you have to love me exactly
the way I am. And I'm a Gemini, so a
to me.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Oh my god, at least a virgo. Sorry Sam, No, no,
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And I was like that with Eddie as well, because
Simon has so much control of everything I said and
did and war and where I went, where I couldn't go,
and where I could go. That with Eddie. I, you know,
I didn't want him to change me, but yet the
fucked up part of my brain was, why is he
not trying to change me? Does he not love me?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Like worships the ground you walk on?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's why? Yeah, But I'm like, what, why is he
not telling me? No?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
No, no, because Puss either No, it's not like you.
He's a supporter. Yeah, like he's the supporter of you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He loves you, you're you know, he's your biggest Yeah,
he will I think you're in the wrong hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I think important day.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And he will say to me, do you really think
you should be doing that? And I'll be like, you're right, Okay,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's a good sounding board.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And Shannon, because now that you're in the dating world again,
how do you I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's interesting because the people that I find myself attracted to,
including John, like, they don't even they had never seen
the show.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So then once they see, once they're on the show,
do you think they get addicted to the fame? The
fame after you know, somebody else knows.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I don't know. I don't know. I wish I knew
the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like you'd seem like he cared at the beginning and
then all of a sudden, all.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Of a sudden, he's running for public But at.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
The very beginning, did you think he cared?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Oh, John Steve, Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I mean it was hard because he really when we
filmed with didn't he stayed away? But then all of
a sudden he was Instagram famous And what.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
About the cancer guy?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
He was obsessed. He was obsessed being famous as absolutely,
But yeah, you know it is. It is an issue,
like and I don't so far so good with me
being single. But you know, I don't know that I
could go into dating app.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Have you tried? No, No, we're going to lunch. What
we have to get you on one of those fancy
ones that you have to be accepted, right Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
No, no, no, no, Ry, maybe you can date Perry.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
He's very prevalent.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
What I am?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I am fifty nine years old, and you know, sometimes
it takes you're not just to get to know someone.
I would prefer to be introduced to someone by a
friend because then it can pick up the phone goes
see I always like this.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Well it's not how the last one happened.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Little I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the four months and
you didn't have sex, Like what's your rule?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Like you wait a year?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
No, it wasn't you know. I okay, No it wasn't
It wasn't me. It wasn't me waiting. I think that
there was a lot of feelings between the two of us,
and we knew that if it got to that point.
And by the way, I haven't slept with that many people.
To me, sex is the ultimate connection because it's that
one thing that you have more than that person with you,
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the one thing you have with that person that nobody
else can do. Nobody else can have sex with that
person because I'm a monogamous. So sex to me is
a huge deal.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Like put out to me.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
So he couldn't get more. He felt that he felt this.
How old is he felt the same age? He was
my age. He's very tin and Taylor met him. Taylor
met him.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I did you like him? Yeah, I mean I feel
like he was quiet, but then around you, it's kind
of like a forced.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But this is my hot mess sister saying that.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I mean, it's true, like I feel like all of us.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You know, you have your men and there's going to
be moments where they're going to have their louder side,
but like we're kind of all loud mouth know at all?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
That's yeah, But I was I gave him. I gave
him his attention.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I thought you just were going to say I didn't.
I gave him.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It's a very sexual person. I did four months not
having sex with a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It was shocking.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
And then okay, I need to know the night of
will of fortune.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's called family.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, okay, Pat say Jack, you're confusing. Man.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
They don't call me Teddy Walters for nothing. Let me
pull up my notes. Did you hook up with John?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
You know what he did? Stay over like where it's
a comfort.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I don't appreciate you dodging the answer.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yes if you bang them no?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
No, yes or no?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
We you know what we are. We we have conversations.
We're at with your vagina getting back together, but you
have a song. But ever getting back together?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
By the way, I will, I will have to tell
you this. When Shannon found out, you know that Mexico man,
the Mexico man was not going to go to family feud,
wanted a date. She She called me and said, how
do you feel if I brought John, and I said,
I don't care. I don't have a John with John.
I'm not judgmental in the sense that John's always been
(34:11):
nice to me and to Eddie, and Eddie likes him.
So I'm like, yeah, bring him, I don't care. And
so she's like, are you sure? Is it going to
be weird to go?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So she brought him and the first day that we
were there, we were there a day early, we were
doing some tiktoks and we looked at John and said,
get out of the TikTok. You cannot be on the TikTok.
We don't want anybody you guys do.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
A shitty job of it because I saw him there.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, well he was leaning against the pole.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Where's Waldo like? And he was in it? So she said,
who cares?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, sorry, I'm asks this question and Tamer gets mad
every time I ask him.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Oh God, So you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Have to pick from the current guys that people are
in relationships with on the Real Housewives of Orange County
who you would want to have sex with?
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So who are options right now?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Shane Travis, Terry to Brow Okay, I'm definitely marrying Terry
to Brow.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No, it's it's not Mary shag Kill, it's just shag No.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I didn't do marry. I didn't do all the things
just to have such, but not after four and a
half Shannon likes.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
To do Yeah, just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, I mean, Eddie's the hottest, but you because that
would be very terry to.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Brow, super funny.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Terry is really funny and you can always get champagne after.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, So you're gonna and maybe maybe even a Cardier bracelet.
So you're gonna bang Terry to Brow.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And you're if I'm in a bank terry, then we
could do a threeesome. Oh there you go, there we go.
Have you guys ever done a three soome? No?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
And I never will?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
You know, I have.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What are your thoughts on what's going on with Tom
Sannibal and downerpup rules?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I just get bits and pieces and I don't know
those people. I know the old VP rules.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
She knows them, she's out with that.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I know most of them.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Do you think that from coming from somebody who you
were married to?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
A am I allowed to say serial cheater?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
One cheated that?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You know that?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I know one that you know?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, so one cheater. Do you think that it
was premeditated? And do you think somebody that cheats does
it because they're just so selfish or they just don't
care about how the other person feels.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Okay, this is kind of I can analogize it to
my relationship. I think that after nine years they were
in a relationship where both weren't the happiest and one
of the people decided to go outside the marriage or
the relationship. And that's what I don't agree on. I
get it that relationships can fizzle out, but you don't cheat,
(37:06):
you leave and.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Then and that's what I was married before.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And I told my ex husband, I said, listen, I
love you, You're my best friend. But there's something where
whenever I have a couple of drinks, I want Matt damon,
I don't want to have sex with you.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I don't know why this is happening, but like, this
has got to be a problem.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, but if you are, you did it right.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
And so then we go.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But it was really hard, and my heart was still
broken for years because he was my comfort, he was
all of these things, and we had to end our
relationship for it.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
But were you married.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I can totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We were together for like five years. We were married
a year, But my dad told me the day I
walked down the aisle.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
He looked at me and goes, you don't have to
do this.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Where is he now?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
He's in San Francisco and he's great. Huh, he's married,
she's great. We still continue to be best friends until
he got engaged again.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It right, yeah, because it's.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
John John and to be this just is just to
show you that the friendship that John and I have
We've had that discussion today. We are friends, but we
realized that as soon as one of us gets into
a serious relationship, that friendship is going to have to
die down.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
But I'm here to tell you I didn't like that
he was at that What's Up place? You guys?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Quiet woman?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
And he started dating that girl, the girl that was
the girl he dated for a while, but there was
no spark and they're not together anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But either way, I didn't like that he picked that location.
There's plenty of understand that.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
We had a conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Do you apologize or he was like, Oh, it's just
my favorite place.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
He grew up. He grew up in Newpark. So he said,
I've been going there since I'm twenty one, and my
my answer was, yeah, I've been going there a lot
less years than your place. You need to piss you
through the plane's place.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
That's your as to him. Likes to say that's your
iconic moment.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But so I said, if it's important enough for you
to claim that territory, then it might come with consequences.
And it did.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
When it comes to the cheating thing with my girlfriends
who've been cheated on, I feel like the guys always
cheat down.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Oh always, because that's gonna make.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Make them feel better about themselves. Like when Kelsey cheated
on Camille and then like the girl's picture came out,
I was like, what you left Camille hot body for
that situation? That was weird, But I feel like it's common.
Do you feel like David cheated down?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Okay, oh the cheat one absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Silent.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
But guys times I have to go on too her
instagram like a freaking loser.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Oh no, no, that's the current wife. That's a different person.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I get really excited every time they file.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That's the that's the wife, that's the w that's the
way God.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That's different from David's divorce attorney is my divorce attorney.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, he's the happiest.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You don't want to fuck with, not want to with
the Monarchs best. If you guys need a divorce in
your Orange County, Danny and Michael Monarch are your guys.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I said this on the Reunion a second season. David's
a fair got football seats at USC like literally eight
rows in front of us, so we would see them.
They would literally walk up the staircase with the girl
he was with, the with the husband, like they never
got divorced, and I would say, look at her and
look at me, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
But what I have noticed for very like women, affluent women,
they want to always give the illusion that marriages are perfect,
that everything's great.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So we and they're all banging each other, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Well not just that, but like just ship, Like why
why is women?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Can we not say, like, listen, there's really good fucking weeks,
and there's great weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
And there's bad.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
There's some weeks where I really love it and I
would do anything for it.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
In another reason, I'm like, who are you, I want
to kick your throat and the that's me nuts.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's everyone, everyone who's honest.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
One last question you guys. So Brabo has announced that
Braba Khan is in Las Vegas this year.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
What are you?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And you both went to Brava Khan last year last November?
What was there any weird moments of Brava con anybody
treat you bad? Anybody that you.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, okay, the most bizarre thing that happened. I was
in your room and we were sharing glam. Yeah, and
this this woman walks in and just plops down in
the makeup chair and now it was my turn Genshaw,
and I didn't know who she was, and I'm like,
who's the pitch in the makeup chair that's not staying
in our room with us? And everybody's like, oh, that's
Genshaw from Salt Lake. And so one of the little
friends in the room filled me out on the whole story,
(42:00):
right because I'm a little behind, and I'm like, what
the fuck. I don't even think she's supposed to be here,
Like she was kind of banned from Bravocon.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Remember she got she escorted out right at the party
after the and then she had an entourage, and so
my room was next door to yours.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And the next thing I know, she's in my room
and she's plotting out how she's going to sleep in
my room because she was like, wait, you know she's
like a hotel room. No, she had no hotel room.
She had like three guys with her, and so.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
The jewelist and the security guard yes, wait, and they
all four wanted to yes.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
So they're like, one of us can sleep on the bank.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
And she only has three women, right.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
And Jen's like, I can sleep in your bed with you.
And I'm like, I don't know you. I have no
idea who you are. Why are you in my room?
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (42:44):
It was so bizarre. And so then I was changing
into a jumpsuit to wear over to Bravocon and I
was getting with her kissed because she wouldn't get the
hell out of my room with all of her friends,
and I just happened to say, this jumpsuit looks a
lot cute around me than the one you're about to
be wearing.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Oh oh, by the way, we just.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Kay, is that an indication of what a great addition
you are this season? In real housewise?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I think what she needs to do with her new
outfit is belt it?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I don't think they have belts, and I don't think
you can belt because then you mbody.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
She did have accessories on them in the yard.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
She had sunglasses, sharings, yeah, and good and some good
hair too.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I think she kept her exceps. Well, why I thought
Teresa had to take her extensions out when she went
and I have really pretty hair.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Shannon, who is your best and worst experience of Bravo con?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I will say that the people that I was most
excited to meet was anyone from any of the below
Deck franchises. Really, as I am all, you watched one
and you were hooked? My friend, I love.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
What do you want to go on below deck? Because
I have you have to pay just my fife. I
talked to casting.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I grew up on boats.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Oh yeah, I have seen you on some boats. Okay,
who is your favor? But then who was your least
favorite person? You have to pick both.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Well, I could say my favorite was seeing the Beverly
Hills cast because I hadn't seen them until long.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Oh yeah, I was so drunk.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I remember I was coming or going.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Well, I remember being in the room and Taylor's getting glammed,
and Vicky came in and she refused to speak any
words to me.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
In your bed, I.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Remember you laying on the bed. You had a pink
suit on it.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, And I was like waiting to get touched up.
And Vicky came in and we're like can we put
music on? And she goes, can you turn this down?
It's annoying, and.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
When I was like, yes, I'd much rather awkward silence. Silence.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Remember when she left, She's like, bye Tamra, Bye Tommy.
And she didn't say anything to you.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
By the way, did you notice that our interview was Ramona.
She would not acknowledge me as a human being.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
She know your name, Well, fine.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
It's happened to me.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
But.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Like what did she think?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
She thought she was Gina.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
She would just ga no, She's like, do you have kids?
I would say, how's Avery? Do you have kids?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Gina from OSTI?
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, but that's Romona. She's been like that.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
She finally apologized and said I'm sorry that she's always.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Trying to say. But I would be like, so, Romona,
how are your kids?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like I'm just giving a vague thing, and she'd be
like camera let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
And I was like, I just fucking asked you the question.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And then I go, finally halfway through, because she wouldn't
even make eye contact with me through zoom, I go, I.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Have a question, and this is something from an ego way.
I just was really curious. I go, do you know
my name?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
And she was like yeah, uh, Teddy, medal Line, Medelene
come and I was like uh.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
And I even asked her, I go, do you know
her dad? Because that's like a very well known nurname, right,
and she's like, yeah, Sean Middleton. I'm like, no, I've never.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Had it's our first guest that you asked the blame question.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm like, why did you say all the Legacy people
were losers and now you're allegedly cast as one. And
she's like, well, I didn't mean it that way. I'm like, well,
then what way did you mean it?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Like, I'm not on it. That's romon Is, that is Romota.
That's why she's good TV. Yeah, and that's why they
need her.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And he did say her blood type is blanc, So
maybe we should just kind of keep that.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
If you could pick any other franchise to be on,
which one would it be?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I know the answer for you, Tamra, because you like
to stir that pot.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
New Jersey, Jersey, New York hands tand New York.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Even the new one now with the old if there was.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
And then just put them out of the equation.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Who would you be Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Oh, let's go Atlanta and Atlanta they would eat you up.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You know what they did us. You know what you're not.
You don't have a lot of confidence in me.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I don't because I need I like, I have no
fear and I know that season.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
They don't drink enough in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Ye I need season nine, Shannon even nine.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
What would you say, Well, what's the biggest party city? Miami?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Miami's where I'd want to be. I feel like I
would do mine. I would thrive the most, and.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I would need to get a DBL or whatever they're called.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Well, the next time you guys see me, and my
tits are bigger than my ass is bigger than my tits,
you're gonna be Maybe it's no.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Brazilian butt left.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Oh, like they suck stuff from everywhere and then they
put it in your butt.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
No, you do not need one. You have a big
enough cameltal.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I mean I can get in the front.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
You're gonna be you have a bigger butt than it's
gonna make your camel.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
Toal even more. It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
We are going out to lunch.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Oh and it continues. What time is it like?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
We're going to meet a few more We're going to
meet a few more housewives. That's right.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
We're gonna have some special guests.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
I'm on forty six and it's asleep and you can
you can sleep in the uber.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
I can sleep when I'm dead. All right, you guys
for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Please, thank for having me.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
We have a very special episode coming with Tamra's mom
and sially my mom. I haven't even asked her yet
because I'm so embarrassed about all the things she could
potentially say about me, because I like to really pretend that,
like I have my sha.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I told my mom balls the wall, Mom, say whatever
you want.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I'm pretty sure Sandy's got that member.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Sandy's got it, Sandy has no fear.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Maybe you guys could have my mom on and you
could ease her into the season.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Thank you, guys, Thank you subscribe, listen, give us reviews,
Tell us, how great or how horrible we are.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Do all the things.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Just make sure that you put five stars and you
leave her review. Don't be lazy, just like actually write
something out, even if it's like Teddy is so amazing
and doesn't know the English language and Tarra doesn't know
how to say inner rusting.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
Or champions championing, championing. Alright, bye bye, thank you
Speaker 2 (49:12):
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