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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Rough slash two Cheese in the Pod because we are
recapping Real Housewives of Orange County.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hi, I'm Erica Jane, and it's eighties night.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
It's eighties and the reason.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Is because someone said that you looked like Susan Powder
stopped the Insanity, which she was an icon, and so
we decided that we do an eighties themed little moment.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
A little we needed to do a moment, especially after
like these OCA girls, they're bringing it this season.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I kind of like the show. I'm telling you, I
liked this episode.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Actually, I liked this episode as well. We have a
couple little housewife headlines. I know you can't talk about it, okay,
but I saw you filming with Denise.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Who, by the way, teld me to tell you hello.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
By the way, because I texted her probably Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
We had a nice conversation, That's what I can say.
And I you know, I don't want anybody to go
through what Denise is going through.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
No, I don't either. I mean that as hell. But
I saw that she just had a win today that
there was stolen items, I guess, and she's getting.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Them back as she should.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I mean, this is all alleged, this is coming from
who knows what. But yeah, so I don't know. I
saw you filming, but I only saw some of you
guys filming. It was just you and Sutton, I think
Sutton and I. Yeah. But and I saw that Kyle.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
And Rachel and Durite were living it up in the Hampton.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Looking stunning, all three of them. I was like, get it, ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, I mean, I can't say, well, yeah, I guess I.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Haven't even talked to them to know if any of
them hooked up.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I can guarantee it's a strikeout. If I were to bet,
like nobody's ballsy enough, maybe Deret come Onury, bring it
on Homeury, bring it on home. Do it for us,
do it for us.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well, speaking of parties, it starts off. We're on season nineteen,
episode four. We're only on episode four.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, it feels like a long time though.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think because a lot of things are happening.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
A lot of things are happening, even though it's at
the same location. But Heather's party continues. Jen and Gretchen
goes it with Katie on the Ottoman they say that
the drama only came to the group because of Tamra.
Katie grabs her husband Matt and leaves.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Ah No, I think that Katie brought the drama. I
think that that's not fair. There's enough drama. These women
bring enough drama to go around, so that's we're not
gonna blame it all on one person. This is a
group effort. It's an ensemble show, and everybody does their part.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm confused about the food at this party, because why
was it just grilled cheese, popcorn and a weed bar.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
By the way, Terry Dubro stole this entire episode for me.
He was so high or lit or whatever. Terry, you're looking,
if you're looking or listening, you were adorable. And I
think I want to see more high doctor Dubrow, because
he's adorable.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
When he lost his pot, it was.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So good, so good, so good, Terry, you're killing it,
and I think it's adorable.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And so this all happened. She's upset Gretchen and is
it already kind of having a moment trying to figure
out who Tamor's bringing.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, I think it's so obvious.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's so obvious that that's what she's bringing. And also
who cares? Would you care?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
No, isn't that kind of ancient history?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Ancient history?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
And like, yeah, I think it's moved on. But I
also didn't get like terrible vibes from Joe. I didn't get.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Joe was like a nice I didn't get.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I didn't get like.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
She wasn't coming in hot.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, not at all. I don't think there was anything
I could see why you know, you'd be hesitant. But
at the same time, Joe was just really nice. There
wasn't anything to be that upset about.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, and I don't think she's pining over Slade.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No. I think everybody's moved on and rightfullyst though, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, Well, Tamra and Joe walk in and before they
even get into the venue, oh, in the parking lot, honey,
they go for it in the parking lot. What did
you think about this scene?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Again? And I've said this before, I don't like it
when husbands are involved. I just don't. I just don't
let the girls work it out. It's a show about women.
Go home and bitch to your husband, but don't have
your husband stick up for you. You're a big girl, you
can do it on your own.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
But also she says things like the only person I
showed was Matt. I have to say, like, back when
Edwin and I were doing the show, the last thing
that he cared about was the gossip between me and
the other women, Like I wouldn't even touch home to be.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Like, hey, let me sure Tom would didn't even know
what show I was on or cared and certainly was
not interested in anything I had to say about this experience.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, so why are you showing him stuff from bloggers?
You're too involved?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I didn't like, again, here we go with the bloggers.
I'm telling you you're making a mistake, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
But I thought that his tone was kind of it's
not yelling, but it's that condescending.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Like like we've seen before. Yeah, we discussed what you
and I experienced with Denise's Aaron. Yeah, we discussed that.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I always kind of felt it's the same thing, like,
don't what is it man explaining me?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, don't man explain? And also too, like your wife
got herself into this, she can get herself out of.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It or can she?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, that's this is what Tomm used to tell me.
You get yourself into some shit like this. You want
talk yourself out of it, like that's on you.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, you got to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
If you fucked up, say you fucked up. If you
didn't fuck up, like, don't, don't. We don't need our
husbands to And.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Also, Katie, if you're in here to do this, quit leaving.
Tamra and Joe hadn't even arrived. All you did. It
was a waste of a good dress. It was a
waste of time for you to even come if you're
not going to sit there and figure it out.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Way too many leaving, way too I'm going to say
this all across the board. Stop leaving, all of you.
Stop goes for everybody that does these shows. Quit leaving.
Quit leaving, because life just follows you around.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
And then like acting surprise that Tamra was arriving at
the same time. Girl, come please, we know they had
her sit in that car walk.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, they had They had Tamar and Joe like sitting
out there for an hour. Just wait, hold on, hold on,
hold on, let's go come on.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
But then Tamar and Joe walk into the party, Ginea
and Emily reached for popcorn. Those two are like so
is it kitchy.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, they are kitchy, but they also are like
I'm sure many people in the audience reached for the
popcorn too.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean I would have reached, right.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think they are reflecting what people see.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Then Jenn and Gretchen say Tarma knew exactly what she
was doing and bringing Joe.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh my god, revelation, you're kidding.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But even exactly what she was doing, would she do?
Those two got along better than half the other people
at the party.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
If they're Hey, here's the thing. Anything goes in these shows,
so anybody can come out at any time. I mean,
we've seen people pop out for a decade at least
I have. So whatever happens happened.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I thought I thought Tamor bringing Joe was a
fun housewive moved. I wish I wish Joe would have
brought a little bit more. But if she was just
going for fun, she was just going for fun.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't. I thought Joe did exactly what she should
have done, which will show up and be nice and
not get in, do you know what I mean? Like,
maybe we bring her back and see what's going on,
or if she has something else to say. But I
like a soft entrance on something like that because you
don't overplay it.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah. I remember when Camille came in and was like
so hot and heavy, like I think it was last
season on Beverly Hill.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, I do. And you didn't even see the heaviest of.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It because they know it's too much.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah it was. It looks forced, and I think the
thing is that, Yeah, it just looks forced. I mean,
and also the audience is sophisticated enough to go, here
we go again.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, here we go again. Then Jen goes over to
Tamar and asked to talk but at another time about everything.
Tamor says yes, but doesn't know what they have to
talk about. Why do people have to pre prep talking?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Because it did helps the story move along? You know,
I think we should talk, you.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Know, come on, I know, but like we got just
this will suffice. We got to talk just not here, yeah,
but like a sit down. We gotta talk.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But not okay, well okay, well when you're e're over it,
I can tell.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm over it. You're over it, not as much as
I'm over seeing housewife get their veneers done.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Okay, So I didn't know we only had the uppers
and not the lower woo and uh, I'll never forget
Lisa and a God bless you. I need to text
her back. Shit, it's just totally for I remember when
she when everybody was getting veneers and it was all
on Instagram, and she because I'm so tired of these
Instagram teeth, Instagram.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Sick of these Instagram tooth I'm sick of it too,
and I'm all Also, I think having lowers is difficult.
I mean I only have I have four veneers because
I broke my teeth out in the eighth grade. Yeah,
but I can't imagine having a full You don't have anything.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
No this you're on my teeth and I never wore braces,
which but I probably I was thinking, like, you know,
every time I go into my dentists office, I'm like,
do what They're like, Erica, you have no your mouth
is fine?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, you have a beautifully set mouth. There there's
not Yeah. I think if you have good teeth, like
I wouldn't have ever noticed that those two needed lowers
and Veneers are expensive unless they're getting those for free.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, it's clearly Instagram teeth. I think that done properly veneers,
like when they're porcelain beautiful. Porcelain veneers can be really
well done. They're really well, really good.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
On mentes a little dicey for me.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I think the sizing and the coloring is where
you get it can get bucked up, you can change
the whole shape of your mouth.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
But I kind of feel the same way about men
when they get like filler and I don't want.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I don't like plastic surgery on men. And I'll
tell you why. I just I don't know. I just
don't like it.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Then we get to the open house at Genas and where.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Is this over fifty ship? Like it's all one level,
Like we can't climb the stairs.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh apparently apparently? Is that maybe I need one?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
She's wearing a very conservative little dress over there to
show this.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And putting the squeezeballs and.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, yeah, is that like a nod to Travis's alleged
big sack.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, we get so much into the sack, and I mean,
this is continues on and on. I feel like I
know more about his sack than I do of people
I've actually slept.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
With comment on these sacks. Yeah, but I mean I
guess he's got a big set of balls.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Big set of balls.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, any who that mean he comes a lot, like
he ejaculates a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh, because then it's all shrunk out. Then it's like
loose extra sacks.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
No, I was just wondering, like, if you have big balls,
what does that mean? Medically?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think you're either born with big balls or born
with small little balls. Same with dingers. You either got
a big penis or you've got a small one or
a grower. Not a shower or a show or not.
What is it?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
There's a lot of different phrases, a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Of different words to describe anatomy.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Here. How do you feel about a dick pic?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Love them?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What about a soft dick pick?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Depends on who it comes from? Depends on the cinders.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Instead of return to cinder. It depends on the cinder.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, you know, I used to get quite a few
dick pics in my inbox.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh getting a now me neither. I'm not getting them,
and nobody dms me.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Dickpics not now, but I mean yeah, but that could change.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Please don't send me your dick pics if they are
soft or hairy thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Were you getting that?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I was getting them back in the day when I
like the most disgusting, soft, hairy dick pics in the
world like that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I just I just get the how much does it cost?

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh? How much would it cost? I'm trying to think
what I would put out.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, rates are up, These rates are high.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Our rates are getting higher by the day. But Tamra,
once she's there, they talk about, you know, everything going on.
It seems like this is kind of a filler scene.
But it was fine. It was quick.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think it's just, you know, it doesn't matter. I
actually like Tamara and Gina. I think that they're fine together,
good together, good together, you know, like I like Emily
and Gina together.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Okay, So Heather meets up with Josh Altman and Josh Flagg,
who previously had a falling out, which is interesting, and
they're finding a buyer for Heather's house, and she decided
that she didn't want to remodel it anymore, which is fine.
I mean, look, sometimes we buy these things and you
don't want it anymore, and you got to get rid
of it. You have to offload this multimillion dollar property,

(13:25):
and good for her, and.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
The good news for us is it's nineteen point nine
to five million. It's still listed as that. So let's
go in together and we could buy the bathroom, you.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Know, let's do that. Let's do that. I bet you
we could do this. I don't know what the backstory
is with Altman and Flag, but when they when Heather
was like, these are the best real estate agents, I
was like, Mauricio Is and all the girls you know
at the agency, So no, they're not, And why are

(13:55):
they poaching in bh? Just call our guys.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, quit, enough is enough that you call one of.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
The girls and let them get it in.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Call Yeah, like you know fair, I bet.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
She'd get that twenty five million originally.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I bet you those those girls over there, those Umanski
Britt girls would move it.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, they would move it. So we've had enough for
that so that we're going to move on.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
But I do love you, Heather. I love it that
you're blowing off your big home. The views amazing, and
I love it that you've only.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Hold on, hold on, We've got a phone call.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh this is my agent, girl, I'm doing the pod.
Give me another deal.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
We have to hurry, thanks for calling me back.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Teddy says, thanks for calling her back. She's going by
who called first? All right? I love you both by Okay, sorry,
if you don't leave that in there, Hold on this
my agent, give me another job.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Hold on real quick. Hold on, bitch, Why haven't you
called me back?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Why have you called us back? We have jobs? Okay,
sorry about that, y'all. But business. We're you know, got bills.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
We got bills to pay. We got to get this
nineteen point nine five million dollar home.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
We're trying to live like other Dubro We got heart.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Money ain't cuttin it. This ain't cut net. We are
nowhere near Heather Dubro status.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
No what I was never you know what though you
were raised. Let's not play, you know, come all right
back to us.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, okay. Then Tamar and her daughter Sophia going through
her clothes to Sophia can sell them on eBay thoughts,
I didn't go for it.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I didn't know that people sold clothes on eBay, But
you can. I just couldn't say. But what about deep
Hop or Poshmark or something else.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But I think that's what her daughter was saying, was
that her clothes.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Rooms were not cool enough for that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, but then I was as they were pulling out
the dresses. I think one of the dresses Sophia threw
on the ground was the dress Tamar had worn like
two nights before.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, at least it's tom, it's consistent, you got shaded.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
But I love that Sophia is basically opening like a
Claire's boutique in TAM's pod room.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's kind of awesome.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's it's pretty great.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It's pretty good. Good for you, Sophia. And then Tama
talks about therapy and ask Sophia if she sees a
change in her attitude and personality. So I asked my
kid this, and yeah, for sure. And I think that
the longer I've stayed it, while I stay in therapy,
I have therapy today, as a matter of fact, can't wait.

(16:33):
Have my list prepared? Do you list? Do you prepare
your list?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Sometimes it depends. Sometimes I just need to go on
to hear somebody be positive.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, well you're like me, like we're working dogs.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, Like I have to be working.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I have to be working otherwise my mind spirals into
this place where like I don't know. It's one of
the things I'm gonna talk about in therapy actually today.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, they say that we're supposed to be like, you know,
at peace for where we are. But I always have
this like mentality like no, but there's more I can do.
There's more, exactly, or there's more out there. There's more
out there's more out there.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
What am I missing? Because the world is a big place,
and especially when you've seen it like we've had the
privilege to do so, you know that there are so
many opportunities and so many there's like such good there's
such good things out there.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
There is such good things out there. No one else
is pretty incredible about that scene with Tamra, not the
therapy part, but was Sophia took one second to pierce
that ear.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
You would have thought she was like whe professional. I
was kind of shocked and it was like a DIY
at home thing, and.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
But there was no hesitation, no pause, just here you go, go, yep,
Can I pay sher ears next week?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Me? No, I have three? I have three. I thought
about coming up here and then I thought maybe it hurts, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
But the ones up here really hurt, and I end
up taking them out anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I was I I I want to do something like, well,
don't get are you getting more tattooed?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, I'm done. Well I'm done for a while. Yeah,
I mean I feel like it's I've hit my peak
limit of dramatic things to do.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, when did you do the pink?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
The pink washes out?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Oh that's fun.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, so it's just the pink washes out. It's I
love that. After our last thing, somebody sent me a
message and said, oh, the color you should use like
for the Yeah, it's everybody's recommending Moroccan oil. But that's
who did the pink. You just put it in like
a hair mask and then it washes.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Moroccan oil is doing color.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Moroccan oil like to keep you an icy blonde.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I didn't know Moroccan oil was doing yeah, purples and stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, apparently that's that's a big thanks.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, well, good for them and us some products. We
need some products. I'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I need some rose gold tints so I can keep
this up, so we can cover up my graves. You
have great lots of especially around the front.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, yeah, you've been through some things.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean, yeah, then Emily, Gretchen and Shanna take a
yoga class with aerial hammocks.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Did you do that?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
We did it with?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I did, or I did goats, or I did some
kind of ship like.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'd like to do puppy yoga, like the puppy yoga.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Sweet, that's nice. I like to do hot yoga, and
I like to do it off camera.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Hold on, I did infrared yoga the other day. I
love it. I love a hot yoga, but I don't
know what. I guess infrared is a different type of
heat because I used to do beakrom like way back
in the day. It's how rehab my second use surgery.
I loved it. I broke the biggest sweat teddy.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I wish and you're just like.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I was shocked how much I was sweating in infrared.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
There's a place right by here where we should go.
Maybe we should go with there, But it's a you
go in and they kind of just do like a
sweat on you, but sweat out a certain color, and
that color tells what your body needs to detail.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
The fuck how is that?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I know? By whatever it is that they put my
friend Okay, honestly, two seconds.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, Okay, yeah, yoga, aerial yoga is hard. By the way,
you're on.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
The list of things I don't need to see. We've
seen it, we've seen it, we know how it works,
but what else we know? Shannon's not going to be
able to do it? Okay, Well, do we think that
Shannon plays it up? Or do you think she's really
like as uncoordinated as I am currently.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
You're not on cord. I think that she plays it up. Well,
I think that we see a lot of people playing
whatever up. I mean, this is Housewives. It's sort of
theater of the absurd. You can't always be screaming and yelling.
You have to have like sort of an opposite to that,

(21:09):
and you know.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, then Gretchen also says she doesn't want to be
friends with Tamra. We know, then, why did you come
on the show? You know she's not We know you
don't want to be friends. If you don't ever want
to move forward, then shut up about it?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well yeah, or don't say anything about it.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
If you really or be interesting and become friends, that's
really what I'd like to see. Yea, I know, what,
why don't you band up and like annihilate everybody else.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, figure it out. But it's like to me when
somebody says that, it's like, now we have two people
in this group between the Katie situation where she's about
to be iced out and now fully yeah, but Gretchen
trying to ice out Tam. No, we need that, We
need Tam. We need Gretchen to do something other than
talk about Tam.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
We need them to actually be friends, work it out,
and then go after everybody else. I mean that's just
my sinister little mind going you.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
We're already thinking next season guys.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
So folks, well, yeah, focus, like you know, bury this
old beef nobody really cares, and go go raise hell
in another way, because I mean when you have.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
To start the sentence with twelve years ago.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't even want to think about twelve years ago.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I can't even remember two weeks ago, let alone twelve
years ago.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Amen, And I don't want to remember. I if I
what haven happened twelve years ago? What was I doing?
I wasn't on this show? Yeah, so what.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Twelve years ago? I was birthing slate?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah? I mean that's could you imagine like the beef
like it just couldn't imagine if.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I still was like, oh my god, when I was
giving birth twelve years ago, right this happened? Like no, no,
I've already talked about let's.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Stay in the present moment, and if you haven't moved
on from there, perhaps you need to look inside and
be like why.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, well then Katie.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Ladies move on, do something, become friends, do something else.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Katie meets with Heather and Jennifer brunch. Heather asked Katie
if she met up with Keiki Monique, and Katie says
she did. Heather tells Katie that she heard that she
asked Keky to put out stories about the girls to
hurt them. Katie then says who she heard that from?
And I love that they just it's immediately it's Tamra.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
But Tamra knows here's the other thing too well. And
I was watching this and I was like, I looked
at Liyah and I was like, how does Tamra know
all of these things? Like Tamra just knows all the shit, Like,
if you want to know something, I don't know if
Tamra does.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
She needs a't asked Tamara.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm telling you she does as much investigative services as you.
I amost called you the other day because I needed
an answer for something, but I didn't want to bother you.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Please bother me because I love to investigate. Okay, you
know how I'm about it. You know I wouldn't investigate
through like I wouldn't do the way that Katie does
her investigating. I do the way that just like somehow
tam Nos. We don't know how tam.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Nos tam or nose. Back at her home, Katie tells
Matt about this, and Matt says, I love that Tamra
Judge is in this friend group and you're untrustworthy.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Why is Matt trying to be a better housewife than
his wife?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Remember when p K was a better housewife than Dureat
For a while, we see this come in, We see
these personalities come in. And I liked Matt last year
when he was just quiet and in a corner. We
we don't need you to. Don't fight your wife's fight.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Don't hide like Aaron used.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
To tell us. Remember Aaron told us that we were
You know, it's just like dude, let us let us cook,
and you stay over there and just look like you don't.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Come, or actually don't come.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I prefer you don't come.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I would have preferred you don't attend. Also, I don't
need to see you sitting over there in the corner either. Fine, be.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
High, Terry is great. Terry broke and give a fuck
less what's going on? And he's high. So good, And
thank you, Terry. You were the You were everything I needed,
we need. You were what we needed in this episode.
Not everybody's opinion. I don't has Terry ever gotten involved
in he.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
One time I was like, but it was I think
a production thing. And then he also got involved with Shannon.
I believe, oh like two years ago he's gotten involved.
But this he's taken a back seat.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I like it, stay bad.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
He's you know what, when you've got millions and millions
of dollar nineteen point ninety five just laying around extra,
you don't have to be that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't even know why they're on this thing.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I mean, if we were going to be brutally honestly,
I mean, and must be fun, must be nice because
because you know. But I also think that that's why
he can like laugh and have a good time.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And she's so good and like, I've really taken a
turn with Heather like.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh, the show needs Heather.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
She is the character.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes she is, and for everybody that's like Heather said, second,
you guys you need her. You actually need every single
personality on this show, whether you like it or not.
This is how it works.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And you're gonna bitch about him one way or another.
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Here we are, So let's bitch about Katie's haus been met? Yeah,
just hey, Matt, you know what like, don't be thrown
down your judgment. Yeah, your girl's been talking.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Your girl's been talking, and you've been seeing the dms apparently.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
So, and you've been seeing the videos. So who are
you in this group? Are you? Your paws are not
clean either.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Your paws are not clean.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Your paws aren't clean either, honey.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Then we get to Tamora and Gin meet for dinner.
Jen asked Tarmar where it all went wrong, and Tarmor
says it was last year at Katie's house. She admits
she went off on Ryan, but Ryan called Eddie a bitch.
He's not that innocent. Then, Yeah, I mean not great,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
This wasn't I don't know. Look, I think if I
think Tamra is this is too simple for Tamra. I
think it goes somewhere else for her. I think that
Tamra there's something else there. I just don't think it's
that simple. As Ryan called Eddie a bitch.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I think it's a long time back and forth. But
I don't know if I saw in this episode or
if I saw on like a watch what Happens Live
about the hair.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh, the putting in the clip on, Yeah it was I.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Needed to know that.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, she had thrown her clip Well did she borrow
the clippings from.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
The They went to the same hair person.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Right, So what I'm saying is that that hair person,
they're not Tamra's clip ins. They must have been the
hair person's clip ins.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, and that let's play and have fun and run
them on gen. But still weird.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
All of it's weird, still weird. Not you know, did
Jen watch this show before she joined this show? Is
that what I'm getting?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Everybody says that everybody. I'm asking everybody Jen for sure watched? Okay,
sure watch She was definitely because remember at some point
her and tam were you know, she was showing up
to all TAM's things. They were free.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I just don't know, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Sorry, I thought you said, did she not watch?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, that's what did she? I don't know she watched
so she was around that friend group. And then okay, all.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right, yeah, I don't know that she was around that
friend group, but she watched the Fisher Okay. But then
you know, they go on and on. Jen says tam
Or put out allegations at her home, but their children
was rated. Tamra says. Jen can say whatever she wants
and then someone else says something like it's not okay.
Then Tamra says, I don't know who the fuck you
think you are and who you're not, meaning above her,

(28:42):
above her? Remember she's like, I'm above her?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Who said that?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Jen said to Heather, why are you friends with her?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
All? That's right, that's right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Then they get into the eviction pretty much.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Well look here's the thing. Look, Jen does have some
she has a point here saying, you know, saying talking
about the eviction, talking about the FBI. Of course, Jen's
feelings are going to get hurt, no doubt, and Tama
knows how to hurt feelings. She's a world class Feelings
hurt her, you know, she's just class feelings, you know
what I mean, she's a world class feelings hurt her

(29:20):
and I get it, but you know, if you you know.
And then Jen says Tama is sick and asks her
how her therapy is going. So they're giving it to
her back and forth. It's kind of like last year
in London when Jen cussed out Tamra and then we
kind of liked it.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, we kind of liked it. But I'm kind of
ready for them.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
To like, let's soften that, let's let's let's.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Make some new friends that we can fight with some.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Some other friends. Yeah, I'm ready to mix this up,
like you know, we need Gretchen and Tamra and maybe
Jen to be friends and then tear up some other people.
I don't know, I'm just throwing shit out here, but
it just, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
We're just seeing what's gonna stick. Guys.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
We're just and then Tamra leaves and Jen calls her
fucking sick multiple times, and then can we not show
the people at the restaurants? Uh? You know they look again.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
The saddest thing about this scene to me was that
there was a bullet, chips and salsa untouched. They didn't
even have one.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well it didn't. They didn't get it. They didn't give
each other shot. Well, like, you know what, I ate
my whole plate the other night at this dinner that
we went to. I was fucking hungry and I never
do that shit. I was like, this is fucking good,
and everybody else just moved their food around. My plate
was clean.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
The reason why you seem a lot of housewives not
eating is because then it gets all on our teeth.
It's not our anymore because I'm on it. But like
even right now, I'm thinking about how my coffee and
my chocolate croissant is probably.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Well, no one, you know, the the rule of politics
and show businesses never get caught eating and drinking on
camera because no one looks good doing it. Like look
at all the Kardashians. All they do is eat salads
and everything, like you know, like it's a thing.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And then they can you can hear, well, you can see.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Their mouths ope, like you know, all of our mouths open,
and nobody looks good eating.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Nobody looks well. My dad says, nobody should walk and smoke.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Your father has very specific rules about that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, he says, like, if you're gonna smoke a cigarette.
Not to me, clearly, but my dad has been a
smoking for years. He goes, don't ever do it and walk.
He's like if I saw a woman walking and smoking
a cigarette at the same time, He's like, no, they
need to sit.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, you know, smoking is back in fashion. A lot
of people are smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Did you bring it back?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
It's possible, But I see a lot of people smoking,
not vaping.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's smoking, well because vaping got a bad wrap.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, yeah, that's bad for you. But now people are smoking,
and like they're smoking these elegant cigarettes. I've never smoked
a day in my life, you know, I've never smoked
a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Should we get fake cigarettes and smoke them and really
piss people off? The ones that are like candy and
you blow out candy.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Remember when you used to get candy SIGs?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh, gummy SIGs.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
You could get candy SIGs. I'm going way back in
my Atlanta roots. Yeah, and like and that you could
cry them underneath them after you. I don't know, it's
like candy SIGs changed. Like listen, there was this we
had a lake house and in like Lake Jackson and
right outside Atlanta, and there was this country store, and

(32:14):
I mean you get like crickets and bait in minos
and fishing tackle and gas and candy cigarettes. And this
is what I remember.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Imagine this year for Valentine's Day, if I got my
kids to give out.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Candy figs, you would be that would be you know,
just candy SIGs. I mean that was that was the
time that we grew up in just.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Sings have changed. We all also crams like twenty five
of us and one like old jeep Wrangler with like
the brown.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
The wood, the wood on the wood paneling or the
Country Squire station bike. Did you when did you start
wearing a seatbelt? I don't think I wore seatbelt till
I was like in my.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sixteen I started to wear a seatbelt.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Now do you really?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, I don't love seatbelts because I up and.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
No one wore seatbelts.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Half the cars didn't even have seat belts.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
No, we didn't have a seatbelt. Like I stood up
in the when I was little. I stood up in
the seat next to my mom.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Oh yeah, why she was probably smoking sig.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, my mom and I were the only two people
in our family that never smoked. What no I know,
but everyone well, I think she had asthma and I
just hated it. She and I were the only two
people that did not smoke in our family.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, back when I was growing up.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Everyone everybody smoked.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
What did your mom smoke?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
She spoke used to smoke bentson hedges, mint all lights.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh that's the fact that I.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Could still remember that, and I would try to dress
up to look older so I could go in and
buy her SIGs for her.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And that's when people bought cartons. They didn't even buy
a pack of su.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh know, you bought a cart and that Listen, my
grandmother smoked Misty's, which I think were like a low
budget a slim sig, and then my grandfather smoked camels,
but people smoked Marlboroughs. I just remember, like I was
so disgusting.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's all disgusting. But guys, this is also us telling
you don't smoke. Don't pick it up. Now it's a
pricey habit. And you know, whether it's vaping our SIGs
that are coming in and out of style, you don't
want to be doing either. So this is our PSA.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, this is our eighties tribute, our eighties vibes. I
enjoyed this episode. I thought it was good. I am
enjoying this season. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
moving along, but I would like to see some things
like resolve. Thank you for tuning in. And I enjoyed
our eighties moment.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Me too. Let us if we need to do any
other outfit choices.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yes, bye bye guys,
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