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October 23, 2024 44 mins

Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental wealth podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today’s episode, Jay welcomes in WWE Hall of Famer, two-time Olympian, and legit “World’s Strongest Man” the one and only Mark Henry. Mark looks back and opens up about his journey and Hall of Fame Career. Henry could have easily been a cautionary tale. However, through ambition, drive, and a great support system that believed in him, he ultimately powered through!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental Wealth podcast.
Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.
I'm Jay Glazer and it is my honor to bring
on a guy today who forever.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Will go by the line.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Got fifty four waists and I'm sexy in the face.
The world's strongest man WWE superstar, the one and only
Mark Henry.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
How are you, brother, I'll do it, good man. It's
good to see you.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's been a long time coming.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I know. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hey, hey, so Mark, he's coming Unbreakable all the time
and he's the world's strongest man.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
But he coming to try to recovery.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And then he asked me, you know one of the
first times, Hey Glazer, you got a signed fifty four
shorts like a bar, said Mark, Who the fuck has
a signed fifty four shorts?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Later out, luckily mean now I could wear a normal pant.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Whyweight?

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm three thirty five, oh man, doubt
for what were you?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I was four thirty five?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Holy ship balls?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Really so one hundred pounds? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's for the best You don't see many four hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Pounds seventy year olds walking around, So I'm trying to.
I'm trying to be around when my kids get out
of college and go and have a life.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
What's the highest weight you were at when you were
doing strong amount of wrestling?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Uh, four forty two was the heaviest I ever was,
And it was design.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
It was not good weight. No, it wasn't by design.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
It wasn't, not at all the heaviest I was at
a high level when I was four two. I could
still dunk a basketball and still you know, do athletic things.
But we talked about depression, and I told you back then,
I was like, the reason I got up there is
because I I was just depressed. You know. It was

(02:02):
a place in my career. I didn't think I was
going anywhere. I wasn't gonna do nothing more, and I
was wrong, man, Like you know, It's a couple of
things happened, and I got myself together and I was
able to become champion after that and retired in eighteen
and went in the Hall of Fame. So there's a
lot of things that happened. Once I mentally got myself together.

(02:26):
It wasn't the physical came afterwards.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I want to hit that for a second, but I
want to go back and said, man, you aren't a
good place, so you put on that bad weight.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I think a lot of people, me.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Included, we don't realize what a drug food is, right,
that sugar in that food, and we look at it
and we look at the short term pleasure and don't
think of the long term pain. We're like, Man, I
feel like crap today. A couple double cheeseburgers going to
make me feel good right now, But man, I'm gonna

(02:56):
feel awful for the next week. But you just don't
think about it. So people who are battling you need
to switch it. You need to go. Man, I'm gonna
get a dopamine hit for about ten minutes of this
and then I am immediately gonna feel horrible about myself
for the next twenty four forty eight seventy two hours
a week and just continue to beat up in yourself.
And it's one of the things I think God's like

(03:17):
me and you and I do it too. I will
I did two nights ago.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I ate so clean now with Rosie and.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Man, it was after Foxingville Sunday, I was like, fuck it, Rosie,
I'm just I'm exhausted.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I feel like having the little teeseburgers. And we got
it and we did it, and literally I sat in bed.
I'm like, what am I doing? Why am I doing this?
And I felt guilty about it for the next two days.
I'm like what. And usually after the show where you
have this, we get.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So excited, then you have this dump and I'm depressed
when I leave my crew, I don't have my team.
And I almost did it two nights in a row,
but I was able to then at least corral myself
this time and say, no, I don't want to feel
that shit for seventy two hours.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Oh I'm gonna go eat a bunch of blueberries for
my sugar kick instead.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well you said a lot right there, because that's one
of the things that makes people go into depression and
they lose a team, you know, like they lose their
support system, somebody dies in their family, somebody gets divorced

(04:25):
or whatever, and you just go off the deep end.
What I found myself doing I got in the radio,
and radio the people that I'm on radio with became
my team and we started doing research, and you know,
you got to know what the subject matter you talking
about and who you're gonna meet with, and you want

(04:47):
to know more about that person. And so it became
like another part of my life. My wife asked me
the other day, what do I owe me being better
on radio, And a lot of it is the same
thing that made me great in sports. It's focus and
the fact that I had trouble sleeping if I had

(05:09):
a bad workout. If I had a bad workout, man,
I would sit up and look at the clock until
it was time for me to go to practice the
next day and so I could get that bad taste
out of my mouth. I'm the same way with radio,
you know, and you know I'm gonna busted open. We're
the number one wrestling show in the world. We're opening

(05:31):
up in different countries every scene, like every month. I
started doing radio here in Austin on iHeart Radio, and
now we're doing really well here. We haven't hit the
rankings yet, but when the rainkings come out for the
top shows on radio in Austin, I know we're going

(05:53):
to be right there at the top because all of
the top hosts they tell us like man y'all chilling man,
making me have to raise my game, and that's my
whole life. That's the best medicine that I could get.
If somebody say, damn you sat in the standard.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, yep, no, you said earlier. You know, I want
to get back to that. You said, Man I was chill,
I ressed, and I was eating. I was you know, man,
I was forty two whatever. But then you got yourself
back on the winning ways and then ended up, you know,
becoming a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
What did you do to shift from going down the
bad path to having that hall of fame path?

Speaker 5 (06:34):
The number one thing was my kids are in high
school age. My son was in high school and my
daughter was in middle school about to be.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
In high school. And you know, with Jacob.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Going you know, learning how to be a young man,
you know, I had to really, you know, pay a
lot of close attention, you know, like we didn't want
to crew ate any negativity with him, which we ended
up having some, not by way of me and my wife,

(07:08):
but the place we put them in, like where we live,
you know, it just wasn't good for them.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
And you know, if a situation is not good for you,
living wise, you got to move, or the problem has
got to move.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
The problem was not going to move, so we had to.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
And we did, and kids started to really flourish. Jacob
is at the University of Oklahoma now, his freshman year,
doing well. Joanna's a freshman in high school and excited
about wrestling and excited about powerlifting, all of the stuff

(07:50):
that me and my wife, you know, both have grown
to love.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No but this, but this is now.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm saying back then, back then, when you were struggling,
and then all of a sudden you said, Man, I'm
gonna turn it around. I'm gonna not be four forty
to I'm going to turn it back around and get myself.
I'm gonna win all these things, win the world title,
and get off the get out of the depressed state
and into the Hall of Fame state.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
That that was a decision made by product of me
wanting to live one and not die on my kids.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
And man, I'd had.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
A couple of issues because of being diabetic, and I
just I was like, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I didn't. I didn't wait on nobody to do it
for me.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Very few times in my life had the sky open
up and see the ladder come down and say, hey, man,
we're gonna pull you up.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
You gotta make the decision to do that. God don't
give you.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
There's a peril about giving pearls the swine, Like why
would you give something valuable if somebody ain't gonna appreciate it?
And during that time I didn't. I wasn't appreciating and
I had to make a change, you know, I had
to see it different. I couldn't go into it with
the same mental state. You know, frequency is a super

(09:16):
important thing if you speak into existence. Man, I gotta
get it together because I don't have a choice.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Man, I gotta I gotta do better for myself. You
know what.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
I'm gonna do better for myself. Matter of fact, Man,
I had a good day to day. I'm gonna have
a good day tomorrow, like the positive and you in
control of that. And then I would get in my
car and then traffic would make me scream and cuss,
and I'm like, you know what, man, I can't change
none of this traffic. Why am I screaming and yelling

(09:48):
at these people that can't hear me making my mood worse.
It's like you gotta make those decisions to change you
and bro. I mean it was like a It wasn't
like people said, oh, Man had to wait six months
and you know then another year happened.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
No, in a week, my mood got better.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I started the wheel things into my life that was positive.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
The company that you keep started to get better. You know, don't.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
I don't go out no more. I used to go
out and all of that stuff. Man, I lost all
of that, like I just I had no he didn't
lose it.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
You gave it up.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
I gave it up because it wasn't benefiting me, right,
And that's what I started to do. When I started
to focus on doing better for myself.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Man, everything else started to fall into place.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Man, I love this too, because if you're saying that
you're the one you have to make the decision.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
It doesn't take six months. A decision takes a fraction
of a second. It's just you fallen through. And also,
by the way, I didn't give Mark a proper introduction.
That's my bad. I talked about it being texing the
face in the fifty four was if they didn't do.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
The proper introduction. My pre introduction is he is an
Olympic weightlifter on the US Olympic team. He is the
world's strongest man. That means one of one strongest man
on the planet. He was a WWE champion and he's
a WWE Hall of Famer. So in addition to the

(11:24):
fifty four Ways and sexy in the face, he's done
all that stuff too.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So you know.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
What, Like, the thing that I'm like kind.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Of the most proud is of is I've been a
world champion in three different sports, right that have absolutely
nothing to do with each other. There's no direct correlation. Oh,
you do this, and the progression is to go to
that no, like I'm talking about Okay, I'm about face,
you know, the military term, and then you just head

(11:55):
off and you go and become world champion that direction too, Like,
that's god man, and that's a work ethic that I'm
gonna be super proud of it when I'm older. I'm
already getting at that point where I know that I'm
not who I used to be and I can't do
the things that I used to do.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
No no, no, no, no no no, I'll correct you
right there, and no, no, This problem our athletes have,
okay is You're always that guy. You're never not that guy.
Your body may not follow along, but you're always that
guy behind your rip catch that never leaves. I have
this talk with Howard Long, how he was like I
used to do that.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Bro, You're Howie Long.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You're the baddest motherfucker in the planet that doesn't leave
just because our body doesn't play the same game anymore.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I'm not gonna have a pity party, right My thing is,
I know what I can and what I can't do.
But the one thing I know I can do is
I can teach what I did and how I did
it to whoever really wants it, because it's a lot
of sacrifice involved.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But teach us right here, teach us.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
If I'm gonna teach you, you want to be Mark Henry,
like you're gonna have to stop doing all the other
stuff you love.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Man.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I thought I was gonna be Irvin Johnson for a
long time. I realized that nineteen, I'm not gonna be magic.
I want, man, I want ain't nothing else. I wanted
to be other than Jim Bird, you know, like you
know Danny Jim Herrick. Wow, you know I wanted to
be a I wanted to be Emmit Smith. I wanted

(13:29):
to be a Cowboy. I was a fan Cowboys and Redskins.
Those were the two teams that competed against each other
a lot, and.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I wanted to be him.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
The reason I wore sixty four was because of Jim
Burd Wow, and I had to give man. I cried
crocodile tears the day that I had to make the decision. Okay,
no more football. I gotta focus on the lifting. You're
the best in the world. Nobody wanted them. If there's

(14:00):
time and money into me. If I was scattered all
over the place, I had to commit. If somebody does that,
which I've had a few people say, Mark, I'm all in,
tell me what I need to do. I said, so,
I ain't gonna have to fuss at you. I'm not
gonna have to argue with you. I'm not gonna have
to call you and make you do it.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
No.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Seven people that I mentor have been world champion, Wow. Seven,
Because I know what I'm talking about, and if you're
willing to commit, you can be that guy.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
I have no.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Doubt whatsoever that my son is going to be a
world wrestling champion because he won't sit more than anything.
If I said, Jacob, you can quit college today and
you can go and go and wrestle.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
He would do it. Done. No more college for me.
But I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
I want him to have a life outside of having
to work right away. I want him to have something
that he discovers, he meeting people that he gonna know
for the rest of his life without me and his
mom and the kids need that development. Adults, the ones
that hey, man, I'm done, You tell me what I

(15:19):
need to do. Bron Stroman wrestled with WW last night
main event on Monday Night Raw, same time that the
NFL had his doubleheaders. They said today, during that main event,
they had one point eight.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Million people watching. Broun Strowman. I saw him.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I said, bro, you got to quip strongman and become
a pro wrestler. He said, now I'm gonna be champion.
I said, I'm not a bubblebuster. You go and be
champ when you make up your mind and your decision
is to not call me. Two years later he called me.
I said, you all in, Yeah, go to the airport.

(16:07):
I got him a ticket from Los Angeles to Orlando.
Six years later world champion in WWE last night, almost
two million people. We're focused in on a little screen
watching a dude that I said, I will show you

(16:28):
the path. If you're willing to walk it, it can happen.
You just got to be able to commit. And that's
it is in you. You either have it or you don't.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I tell guys all the time, man, the secret of greatness.
And look, I've coached fighters, football players, broadcasters now right
for a while now, kind of coaching the world and
mental health right to turn it into mental health, how
to weaponize your mental health issues.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
You're not ashamed of them. You know.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
We've trained out a hope of one thousand NFL players
and pro athletes in MMA and fighters, and I always
say same thing, secret of greatness and ain't a secret.
Find out who the best is and do more than them.
But the best do way more than everybody else. But
it's simple, So find out I would tell him, find
out what Tom Brady does, and then do more than them.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
It is a full commitment. And I never forget.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was talking to this one guy one time, and
I was training the Falcons, the whole Falcons team, and
this defensive end goes.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Man, I came out with JJ. Watt did, but like,
look what JJ's doing, Look what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I said, well, let's just find out what JJ's doing,
like you know, working out, sleeping, eating, drinking, died, all that,
and let's do more than them. He goes, I can't
do that. I said, you just said you want. You
couldn't understand why you weren't, you know at this level.
He goes, yeah, but his is Wourkot's crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I go, you just answered your question. So you just
said why am I not? Here's why you're not and
you're not willing. If you're willing, yes, there's nothing we
can't do. The human will is incredible. The you know,
the weapon of the six inches between your ears and
what's behind your ribcage is incredible. But you got to
get those cats who want to go in sacrifice and

(18:11):
it's putting in the hours, folks, when no one's watching.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
That's what makes you great.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Brother.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
We both have an infinity for soldiers, people that clearly risked.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
They warriors, warriors, warriors and field killers. Warriors work so
that we can have a life.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Jesse James, you know Roal dog and ww. He was
in degeneration. Next bullet Bob Armstrong, son of one of
the famous Armstrong Boys. He was in Desert Storm and
he was telling me because I asked him. I was like, man,
you know I love y'all man and he was like,

(18:51):
what are you talking about. I said, when I was
a little boy, man, I wanted to be one of
the Green Army men. And he was like, man, get
out of here. I said, bro like y'all superheroes to
me and he was like, man, thank you, man, Like,
that's the best thing I heard in years. And I said, man,
like you. I had a friend of mine that was

(19:13):
in Desert Storm. His job was different than everybody else's.
He worked explosives and they used to go and blow
fires out. They would go and rig up and boom,
blow out the fire, go out.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
They capped the oil and he said, I said, what
was your job?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
He said, well, my job was to take the fire
so he could go do that.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
They shot at me so they wouldn't shoot at him.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
God next level teammates and he said, Mark, I used
to have nightmares about what I did, and then I
would meet people like you and that that made the.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Nightmares go away.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
People that appreciated your work, They appreciated what you did
for them, and I was like, wow, you know I
always had my wife. You know, we've been friends for
over thirty years. You know we've been married for twenty
of those years. And I always had a good support system.

(20:19):
My family. They loved me to death. If I ever
told somebody I didn't feel loved like I was, I
had the CTE is kicked in. Called somebody because like,
I'm starting to see stuff that ain't mean I had
it good, but for all them people that didn't have it, Man,

(20:40):
I tried my best.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Every day to be that form.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
My wife and I we man.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
We gave away more money and more time helping other people.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Then I would sit here.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I feel bad saying it, not gonna do it, but
it was necessary. It's a part of what God won't
put us.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
On his earth.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Absolutely, and you know me, it's being about.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Having a good time. I want I want fun. I
want everybody to laugh and joke.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
But it's the other side of that coin that I
have a compassion and a love for people that didn't
have it like I had it, and I ain't had
no silver spoon.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Don't think for one second, no, you did not. But
that's you think.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Of being of service.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
You know. I talked about it my book and Unbreakable
about how I get through my depression as being of service,
And that's what you are.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You're the epitome of being of service.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You don't have to be in the military to be
of service, right, there's so many ways to be of service.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
We could be of service to the military.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
By what you're doing for him, right, by being that distraction, right,
by being there for them when they get back.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
We could be of service for people in so many
different ways.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Just you know, when I'm going through my bouts, I'll
call a couple of people and tell them I'm struggling.
But then I'll call two other people, not tell him,
and just check up on them randomly just to see
how they were doing. And ninety percent of the time
they're like, oh I'm fine. At ten percent like oh man,
I'm so glad you called today, I'm man, I really struggling.
And then by me being of service, the roommates in

(22:13):
my head stopped telling themselves that I'm such a piece
of garbage, and it helps me through, you know, same
thing for you man, you being of service. It's like
and the two of us like God has blessed us,
made all our dreams come true. Right, so we can't
just take take, take, We gotta give, give gift. Life
is about again. You've you've won three championships, the three

(22:35):
different arenas.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Tell me what it was like like The difference.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
In winning Weightlifting Championship, the strong Man Championship, and the
ww Championship.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
The Powell lived In Championship was sweet for me because it.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Happened when I was young and I doubted that I
was good enough. You know, when I was a little kid,
I got in trouble a lot because people used to
pick on me for being big.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
By the way, how the fuck are you getting picked
on when you're a fucking giant?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Look who does that? Bro? We're watching that thing in
a and e on you, my wife and sister and
her sister, and we're like, who the fuck could this guy?
He's the world's strongest man.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Man.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
I got called fat, Albert mcgilla, gorilla, King Kong, anything
that was big, black, or animalistic.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
That's what people used to associate.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
And now you think these kids would be fucking shitting
their pants.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It looks like why they did it.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
I think that they trying to make themselves feel good
because they were struggling, and they just thought that I
had whipping boy written on my forehead, which they found
out real quick.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
That I didn't.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
And I thank god I ain't kill nobody, man, because
I tried.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
I got lucky and didn't.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Right, And when I became Mark Henry, the strongest kid
in the world, it changed everything. I mean when I
said champing, I mean adults. I was a special ed
student because I'm dyslexic and I was undiagnosed. I'm not

(24:16):
a dummy, I'm not stupid, but people used to call
me that and they.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Say, by ADHD, you said I learning just blue that
I said, no, I just don't learn the way you teach.
There you go, right, yep.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
And so everything that was negative at that time, when
I became champion, it saved me.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Man. It made me special.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
It made me different, Like you know, for whatever reason,
I became better looking.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I was funny, like you.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Know, this confidence because you weren't that box anymore of
this special ed kid who just got teased.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Right, Champ, Right, you're one of bone. So now you're
the champ and it was special strong man. Yep, that
championship was not about me. It was about my peers.
How my peers were disappointed that I left them and
went to wrestling, but I had to make a living.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I was broke as a joke being a lifter.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
There was no professionalism, no nil, nobody was, you know,
handing over a million dollars to me. I was trying
to break world records just so I could eat. I
had to break the records to get the money to eat.
Man put gas in my truck. So that was when
I competed against those guys in one.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
And not just one.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
But I ran away and they were like shit, let
me keep my mouth shut because they knew if I
came back to the world it was over. Ain't nobody
never gonna talk about you again. Just be happy that
we are us and me just being a me because
I could have been that asshole, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
In wrestling.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
It was validation that I was a true performer because
it wasn't just athletic, it was artistic. I had to
go to acting school, I was taking voice lessons, I
was doing all of these things. So that I could
be better for what it entail for that job. My

(26:28):
wife used to pick on me because of how country
I am. I was almost said it was your Kim folks.
When I say your Kim folks, I mean your brother Michael.
You know how he talks when he's not on TV.
You know me, when I'm not on screen, I say,
I'm thinning to do it.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I'm bothered.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
I'm gonna I bring back that old East Texas dialect.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
But you can't do that on radio. You can't do
that on TV. Hey, you know what people don't know
about me, dude. When I signed with Fox, I was
straight Jersey and then I grew up kind of. I
grew up in the Jersey Shore and I forgot I
was Jewish and I ran with with a certain Prime
family and I literally talked like this, Hey, don't we
got these street guys will be there right and uh.

(27:19):
Fox made me work with a voice coach and broadcasting
coaches like the family in Nebraska is not going to
relate to you. And I work with this guy four
days a week, and thank god they signed him. And
I don't have that dialect anymore. But every once in
a while when I talk about Jersey stuff or gangster stuff.
It comes out and my wife Rosen is like, oh
my god, I'm gonna make it come out. I'm gonna

(27:42):
make it come out. Don't make it come out, man,
I have PTSD for I gotta know.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
No, I got PTSD for that crap.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
You say you South You South Jersey, Jersey Shore. Hell
so so you Taylor Ham.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I know I'm the same, Uh, neither one. But I
don't need I don't need pork. My favorite. Man, you
get those big hogies over there all take a roast,
beef and cheese and with the Italian regular everything every
day of the week from wah wah.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
That's why I go to wah wah.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
You go to get.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Hey, I'll tell you it's so funny. Man.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Real Sports did a thing on me one year about man,
this guy's crazy good at what he does because he's
crazy from the inside of business started getting huge and
they call HBO calls my high school principal and says, hey,
we need high school wrestling photos and yearbook photos Jay Lazer,
And the principal said, who said Jay Lazer? Who Jay Glazer?

(28:45):
You know you have a guy in National TV went
to your high school. They said, here, we know Mike Sertino.
The situation had no idea who I was, but new
to do for the Jersey Shore. That sums up my
talent as good as you can get there, Baby.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Man, I tell you the first time that somebody gave
me a compliment on my diction or on my use
of words, my deflection in which I perform. I was
involved in a promo segment that a lot of people
say it was the greatest promo segment of all time.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
The retirement.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, the retirement, Oh my god, you had yourself crying,
you were that was a credit where Mark pretends to retire,
comes out, he dresses up in a suit, he's retiring,
And who else in the ring with you?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
John Cena, John.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Cena, and he's retiring and hand off the rings, sir
John Cena. Marcus crying in the ring, and everyone believes
this is it for Mark Henry.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
And that is where the tire needs the road.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
When I when I was champion, I realized I had
worked to the point that where the greatest of the
great will always be able to mention me. So each
championship was different, and they all had significance and saying
one over the other.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
It would be very difficult to do.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
It'd be like saying, who's your favorite kid, But I'm
proud of all of them equally.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Had off for people who haven't seen it, what you
did with your retirement.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah, and then it's not like it's it's urban legend.
Like if people want to see it, they can go
on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I won't it up.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Like I'm sitting here, we're talking about stuff that's my
career related. Jay, I've done things that no other human
on earth is done. I'm six three and a half,
three thirty five now maybe three thirty.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But at four hundred and two pounds, I came in third.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
And the biggest dunk contests in the world, the Olympic
triple Jumper and the Olympic Long Jumper beat me in
this dunk contest, the two best at jumping on the planet.
It took to beat me because I could dunk it
with one, I could dunk it with two, I could

(31:23):
catch it.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
On the lob different four pounds. At four hundred pounds, motherfucker,
I'm different.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
And you go.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I tell people, all the people that listen to your
network and your podcast, go look up Mark, Henry list
the inch Thomas inch unliftable dumb bell. It used to
be called the unliftable. I lifted it over my head.
I told onnod Swartz and nigga, give me a year,
I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
And he laughed at me. Laugh, Mark, nobody's ever done
that before.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
But you did really good.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
He was able to lift it off the ground like
that's you should be happy with that. And brother, no,
I'm gonna lift it over my head next year. Even
my coach, Terry Tied was like a father to me.
Terry was like, I don't know, man like And it
might have been part of Terry's strategy of coaching me

(32:23):
because he knew that if you tell me I can't
do something, you pissing in the wind.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Tell me you're saying a lot of these things. Hey,
I've done a lot of firsts. Why why come of
the Why I'm not a fit guy.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'm not afraid of failure.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I don't mind failing because I know that the crazy
in me is gonna make me get my ass up
in the morning and go try it fifty times. Okay,
my grip is slipping. How do I make my grip stronger. Okay,
I'm gonna go make my grip strong man. This thing

(33:03):
holding on to it like this. When I pull it,
it creates centrifugal force, which once object in motion, is
gonna stay in motion to the inertia stops and then
you're good.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
So what did I do.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
I'm gonna pull it as hard as I can, and
I'm gonna let it go.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I'm gonna let it fly on his own, and then
I'm gonna catch it.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
So the weight's coming down on me, not going against me.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Heven studying the physicsific.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I had to work out the science in my own head.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
I didn't go to a sports science academy and have
them do it for me.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I figured it out trial and error over and over.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
You see Bee's mode and Be's moo say, hey man,
people can't take it when you run through their face
and you hit them over and over and over. And
he said it like twenty times. I'm not gonna do that,
but that's me. If you make me mad, you make
an enemy out of me. You got to watch over

(34:05):
your shoulder every day of your life.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But if you make me love.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
You, it ain't no other person on earth. That's gonna
be able to mess with you without having to go
through me first. And that's what makes me different than
other people. I'm not violent by design. I'm violent when
it's necessary. And I can ask my violence and my

(34:31):
anger and my hate and put it on something and
make it a positive. Most people can't do that because
it gets so crazy that you self destruct. I've got
out of my own way. I let God do it now.
So I got a governor like you. You ever been

(34:53):
in a car that didn't have a governor, and you
can burn engine up.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I'll never burn up. I don't have that.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I also think and the other thing, and I got
one more question after this for you. I also think
that you said something real, real, real, real important. If
I love you, man, you got to go through me
for that person. And I wrote a whole chapter on
this in my book The Art of Loyalty. The art
of loyalty is a dying art. People just want to take, take,
take what they can, and the art of loyalty is, Man,

(35:22):
what can I do for that cat who I love
because I love him, not want anything in return. I'm
gonna think about him when I even think about me.
You're like that I'm like that, which is why you
and I bond so much, and.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
We don't think about you know. Oh, oh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Gonna call Mark see if he could do this for me. No,
I'm gonna call Mark and go, hey, man, I think
I got something for you. Hey, Hey, dude, I was
thinking about this for you. Hey, man, where you at?
I haven't seen the wall?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Come over here, man, I mister asked, Let's get you
over here. Hey, we need you know what I mean?
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Loyalty is a dying art. And we find a couple
of cats who are like that. Man, ain't nothing like it, folks,
nothing like it.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Ain't nothing like it. Just leave so good at night?

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Right knowing that I got about Maybe most people don't
have one person that they can call and say, Jay,
I'm in trouble.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
I need I need, I need him.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I know that you would be like Mark.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Go to an airport. I got a flight for you.
You come and stay with me till you get your
shit together.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I know you are doing. Go over here about My
ass will be down there in two hours.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Go. Doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
There's some people that don't have that.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yeah, and they didn't learn it, and I hate that
for the world. So I try to be that. But
it's just one of me. And you know, like we
on Father's Day, we go under the bridges and we
get a bunch of barbers and we cut all the
homeless people hair, give them free T shirts, you know,

(36:52):
sanitation kids, hydration kids.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Nobody asked me to do that. I do that because
I want to do it.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Because a guy came up to me and I say, man,
you ever thought about getting the job? He said, yeah, Man,
I tried a couple of times. They won't hire me.
They say I look like shit. Why would I want
you around my business? I said, who told you that?
He said, the guy in this store. I said, come on,
let's go. I walked in there. I said, hey, man,

(37:24):
you said that you won't hire him because of how
he looks. You know that's discrimination, right. He said, no, No,
he begs for change. I said, because he broke. Man,
he needs work. You got somebody trying to ask you
for work. You can help him out of his situation.
He said, Oh, he gets cleaned up, then I'll hire him.

(37:45):
I took his ass to the barbershop that day. Love it.
We went bost to a gas station. You know, they
got the pack of three.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
T shirts.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
It was like twelve dollars, bought him some brand new
T shirts, marched them in there.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I say, hey, can get him a.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Job, and he said, oh, yeah, you need a job.
And I said, bro, this is the same guy. He
didn't look like the same guy. So sometimes you gotta
change yourself. And I helped him see it.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
And folks, it doesn't take a lot of money, It
just takes some heart. Bro. It was.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
It was a twenty dollars ambassy dude.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
My son and I I started doing my son years ago.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
We go to the ninety nine cent store and we
get toothbrush, toothpaste, handywifs, deodorant, pad and pen, socks, granola,
bar of water, and we go and we hand these,
put them in the car. We'll drive around hand them
out to homeless people. And then also we use our clothes.
We'll recycle our clothes that we're not gonna wear anyone more.

(38:50):
We'll put them in.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
We'll put that in there for them and each pack
costs eight bucks. It's it eight bucks, right.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
But man, my son would sit there and go, Dad, dad, look,
he's the handy white fright and now watched his face.
Or look look what she's doing. She's putting this on
right now. Oh man, it's great and doesn't take a
lot of money, right and.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Just takes man a big toss more than that. I
would have still done it, no doubt it just good.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah, but do what I was making my nine grande
a year. I was doing this right.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
There's still waste because if you're a service man, it
just helps you. It's the wealth that gives you between
the ears. Is you deserve that that kind of wealth?
Last question for your baby, That's all my guess. Give
me your unbreakable moment, the moment your life that should
have broken. You could have broken, you should have and didn't,
and as a result, you came.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Through the other side of that tall, strong and forever.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
It's hard to do without crime.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
So cry that's what we do. Ain't nobody questioned your manhood.
I got your brother.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
When at that younger age, when I fought first, I
hurt people, and people didn't want me around their kids.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
You can't play, you can't go.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
And a dude that didn't know me stood up for
me and he said, look, man, these people keep telling
me that I'm wasting my time with you.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
They don't see what I see.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
If you can get it together, I think I can
get him to let you play sports. But he was
a student teacher that was just trying to get a
coaching credit so he can get a job somewhere and
get out of that small East Texas market.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
He said, if you.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Don't do, if you don't do what you say you're
gonna do, now, Lord, you're gonna ruin you. But you're
gonna ruin me too, because nobody gonna listen to me.
He said, Man, I want to help you, but man,
I don't want you to bring me down to it.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
He put his neck on the line.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
And didn't have to and because of him, seeing what guy,
I really put me here to do, he blessed millions
and millions of people because I've been a credit to
this side society. I've been a credit to my race,
my family, my religion because a dude that didn't know

(41:18):
me stuck his neck out for me. So I asked, people,
do you really want my help? Because if you do,
you got me. If you're not gonna commit, you're gonna
waste my time and you're gonna make me look bad,
and I don't like looking bad. I told you I

(41:39):
might be a fifty four in a waist, but I'm
pretty in the.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Face and I got an ego. I'm very prideful.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
I like to win those seven world champions I've never
asked any of them for a dime. Bioncle bell Air
was the main event in WrestleMania, won the World Championship,
was running track and doing CrossFit, making zero money. He's

(42:08):
one of the few women in pro wrestling that's making
over around a million dollars a year. Jay Cargill in
the same year was fifty and old at the.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Competition ae W Across the Street.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Now she's with WWE and it's been champion since she
been there, and was champion at ADW.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Brian Davison Hall of Famer. I lost my title.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
To him, happy to do it because he exceeded every
expectation and I had to lie to get him a shot.
They thought he was too small. I lied, Oh yeah,
he's six feet man, about two hundred pounds. I knew why,
Bigg he was bron Strowman, Rich swan Ouha, Apollo, Cruise,

(43:06):
Baron Corbin, and then they got about six more that
have Mark Henry fingerprints on them. They coming one of
my son watching watching them. You know, be watching because
they know business, not just wrestling. They no respect. They

(43:29):
know how to make a company look good. Go be selfless,
don't be stupid, don't be a punk, don't don't.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Taken advantage of be selfless.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Right, you gotta be tough too, but you also got
to be able to work with others.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Like you learn a lot when you work with Mark Henry.
It ain't just the x's and o's.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Like if I died tomorrow, it ain't no reason for
a pity party.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Folks need to have a fucking raid, no.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Doubt celebrating for everybody can celebrate your ass, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Bro, it need to be a celebration.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And no one were in black and by what am
I fun?

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Only thing I ever wanted to do, No doubt, it's
all gravy. I'm here to see it through.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Listen, man, you're the best in the world and wrestle.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
You're the best in the world. Is a strong man
the best of the world as the Olympid lifts here,
but you are truly then, This ain't cliche. You're truly
a better friend. I light up when I'm around you, dude.
I love being around you, and I appreciate you joining
me in this big.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Brother, really really do. Man.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
We need a lot more each other, in each other's lives. Man,
We've got to make sure it happens right.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
We're gonna figure it out.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I love you, dude, Love you too, man, Really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Man. I love you, Mark Henry World's Strongest Man WW
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Thank you for joining us on a BREAKO brother,
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