July 25, 2024 • 32 mins
Katie and Guillermo don’t have a guest this week. Why? Because the episode focuses so much on Huck and Quinn’s (creepy) relationship, that they decided they wanted to share their own stories about making out in a cemetery, fist fights and what they could definitely not get away with now on set.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in
partnership with Iheartradios Katie Tho.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Guiermo. Did you get a haircut?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I did on Saturday. I got a haircut. Do you
like it?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And you have plain brown hair?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes? Can you believe it? I had it died first.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I had a bleach blonde, then I dyed it blue.
For a while, I had a green before the blue,
then blue, and then auditions started to pick up and
my manager was like, you need to dye your hair
back to black or back to brown.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I love your manager's so much that they say that
stuff to you. I feel like not all managers would
do that. This is a really personal question too that
I've always I think I want to ask you and
you don't have to answer honestly, But like, do you
shave into your eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I do, just a think. I don't do it. My
barber does it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is there a name for that?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I just like the look it kind of looks like
I got, you know, like I have a scar almost
or whatever. And then if I like, I just did
the good doctor and not too long ago, and they
just you know, they just color it colored in.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And covered up. It's such an easy cover up.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
An eyebrow scar is very hot, it's very attractive. I
want to say, Jason Momoa has one. Oh my son
busted his eyebrow when he was eighteen months old and
has a really nice eyebrow scar. That is good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah. Oh, I hope it stays with him for.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh it's that whole life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
He completely has it. It's white in here, like a
white line.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh, it's so cute.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And I was so upset. Oh my god, I sobbed
when it happened. I was like his perfect angelic face
that I created in my own body. And then I
both myself has been completely tainted by this fareva scar
and now I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What was the accident was?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh my god, it was awful.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
He was sitting on my lap and I was just
reading him a book or something like that, like I
was sitting crisscross applesauce, and he like soot up and
went to the bookshelf to go grab another book, and
he tripped on my knee and nailed his face on
the corner of the bookshelf.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was like a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He wasn't really great at walking yet and he nailed
and it was just like this big open cut in
his eyebrow. And I swear I spent a good four
hours going down a total spiral of looking up every
hot person that has an eyebrow scar.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You were like, this is to make sure that my
son is okay.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And there are plenty it's and you yourself are giving
one bulloh opting for that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Hello, I'm shaving into it myself.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Oh my god, You're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
What.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
On November fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Momoa was slashed in the
face with a broken beer glass at Bird's Cafe No
in Hollywood, California. He received one hundred and forty stitches
during reconstructive surgery, which resulted in the scar on his
left eyebrow.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yo, that's messed up. Who the hell sliced into his face?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Have you ever gotten to a fight in a bar? No?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I've never even gotten into a fight. Have you been
in a fight?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Shit? I have, but it's been like quick, not like
a full on like I remember too growing up in
New York, like friends that would be like yo, after
school and then they'd like take their shirts off.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
All the kids would come out to watch. It was
like a freaking boxing match, and I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, like I've gotten into like, you know, shoving matches
and a little bit of fighting, but very quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you ever throw a punch, like at somebody's face?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I have thrown a punch, yeah, And I didn't like it.
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'm so interesting because you always play such I feel
like you play some pretty fucking badass characters that have
been in a lot of fights.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You're saying this, Katie, because in this episode that we're
about to talk about, it's called Mama Said Knock you Out, Yes,
and and Huck beat up on a B six thirteen agent.
There's a couple of punches thrown in this episode. So
that's so interesting that you're segueing into this thing.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Honey, It's so good. Oh, aren't I I'm incredible?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Hello, You're like, dumb motherfucker. I planned this show.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I had no idea. This is coincidental. I had literally
no idea. I don't know why we're talking about fighting, oh,
because we're talking about Jason Momoa's eyebrow.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh my god, Gladiators, we're excited about this episode. Though.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This episode is pisode three fifteen. It's called Mama Said
Knock You Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh shout out? Oh cool Jay?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Oh, el l cool Jay. I saw him once at
a diner in Long Island.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You did, Have you ever met that? I've never No,
I've never met him, but I did a movie. I
was in a movie with him called Into Deep, but
I didn't have any scenes with him, but I love him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So Mama Said Knock You Out aired on March twenty seven,
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And it was written by Zahir McGhee and directed by
Tony Goldwin.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
What what, Oh my god? What what what?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This episode is chock full guest starring John Tennys, Andrew Nichols,
Candy Alexander Is, Maya Lewis, Dylan Minnette as Jerry Grid Junior.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh God, he's gonna die so sad, but not in
this episode.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Madeline Carrol is Karen grit nazanin Boniati's Ad Non.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Salif, Charmila Davar is Lauren Wellman, Mackenzie Aston is Noah Baker,
Carlo Rota as Ivan Molly Bakers, Rachel Moss, Troy Wynn
Bush as Morris Elcott, and Eben Ham as Tanner Shaw.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Okay synopsis. When Olivia can't cancel an impending Grant family interview,
we roll back the clock to view the chaos that
led up to the minute before. Literally, Melly and Andrew
continue their affair while Olivia digs dirt up on the grandchildren,
only to uncover some minor political bashing that becomes a
bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Then Adnan shows up to o Pa, seemingly turning herself
in while Quinn tries to reclaim some power back from Huck.
Moments before the interview, Fits learns about Melly's affair. Miraculously,
they pull it together at the last moment, as Olivia
and Quinn both get some shocking news at the end
of the episode, Wow, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This episode is a ringer.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's fun, it's a doozy.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's a doozy and.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
We really get This is the episode where we really
get the Grant kids. They have to carry a lot
of acting scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, Katie, my first thought was what a couple of
spoiled brats. These two fucking schlubs are like they're just
moping around all pissed off about what, like.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, your mommy, ooh, you're in Dan, you're going to
this fancy fucking school and you're going to this fancy
school and you're so miserable about your parents, like when when?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
When? And the girls like get out of my bedroom
and that once. I'm like, girl, I didn't even have
my own bedroom. At least you have your own bedroom
to ask somebody to get out. You're annoying me, I know.
And this episode starts at ten right off the.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Top, Yeah, I wrote dinner with Fits and Melly and
Karen and Jerry. It is the worst family dinner ever.
And he says, at the end of the day, let's
remember that we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Love each other.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And then I was like, yikes, doesn't seem like nobody
loves nobody in this family.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right, I was just gonna say really quick, and Melly
to the daughter, She's like, I don't know if you're
still vegan, but I think this is made with nuts,
and she's I'm just gonna eat the salad girl.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Whatever. Quinn does okay in this episode.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I listen, this is ponytail, Quinn. I call it ponytail.
Quinn is a bad ass. Yo. Whenever you see Quinn
in a ponytail, you know some badass stuff is gonna
go down in the episode.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yes, that's exactly exactly right. But Quinn in this episode
is Charlie is a dog with a.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Bone, is going after Quinn so hard? What do you mean,
Huck was in your apartment? What happened in your apartment?
When did he push you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Did he push you?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Before?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And after? And he's quizzing me. He's like, you, guys,
argue before, did you before he pushed you?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Or after he pushed She's jealous.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Possessive, and creepy as shit. Quinn constantly just trying to
calm this psychopath of a boyfriend who seems as abusive
and possessive and jealous as all hell. Ladies listening to
this podcast, if you got a boyfriend that's acting.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like that, get out.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But yo, But Katie just ended to play devil's advocate
in his defense.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Quinn is straight up aling to him. He's he's la
la la lying.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So he has a reason to be this sort of
jealous and inquisitive because she's straight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Up lying to him.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes she did make out.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, Yes, by my case, No boyfriend like that.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, he's quizzing her. They're in the car. They're like
torturing a guy like bad.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
They're in the clear, Aprinds, she's ponytail, Quinn, this is
all happening.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, they have Dmitri in the trunk, the guy that
they're gonna they're about to torture.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, what else do we got?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
What?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Other highlights of this episode? Favorite favorite scenes.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
This is the episode that made me think, don't these
people lock their doors when they're about to fuck around
with somebody that they're not supposed to be sucking around with,
even if you're will be working around with them, lock
the door.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You're in the White House.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Mellie goes down on Andrew Nichols and leaves the door unlocked.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Her daughter walks right in. What the hell? Come on,
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You were the best trailer locker listening ever.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
White Trailer Debauchery Guermo was always locked.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It was the lock.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I take it from somebody who I never locked my door.
I never locked my trailer door. I am not a
door locker. Really, Yeah, it's bad. I don't like really bad,
and you know what, you're right because like at some
point my kids are coming in and I don't even
have locks on my door.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You don't. Oh wow, do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You have locks on your bedroom door in your house?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, there's a lock on the bedroom door. There's a
lock in the room I'm in right now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
The lock is a horse that slides overcause they don't
have the secret bookcase in this room that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, because you grew up with three boys in
a bedroom and like you didn't have any of your
own space ever.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Probably and now I like privacy, like don't be coming
in my room unless you knock. And even on set
I remember, and not only on Scandal, on other projects
people would you know the ad Will the eighty or
their second and whoever comes to.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Get your base camp, whoever's like running base.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Camp like a courtesy knock and then open the door, No, bitch,
knock and then wait for me to open the door,
enter or us or you open the door your ex exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Don't be opening the door after you knock.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
This episode also reminds me of the shenanigans that were
going on when Kelly on Conway Hasty Secretary yea.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And her kids.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you remember her daughter was like on TikTok, totally
talking shit about her mother.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
And this is what's happening in the episode, because we
learned that Jerry Junior has created some fake Twitter account
or something that's super against his dad's presidency and her
his dad running for a second term. Yes, talk and
abby they like shut the Twitter account down.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, and he's playing on wearing that shirt. Oh yeah,
the governor resting like wear is about.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
To come out there, this little spoiled privileged shit. Yeah,
and come out there wearing a governor rest.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
In t shirt.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But Olivia's bitey senses catch that, right, because when she's
having that little talk with with Jerry and Karen, she
then she talks out and remember who she talks about.
She's like there was something off. I'm not sure what
it is, but look into those kids, and she was right.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
She was spault spolt on.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, what else did we like in this episode? I'm okay.
I wrote and add Non and Harrison fuck again.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yay?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah it sure did.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
They have sex again? I think the entire section Melly
is going down on andrew daughter. Karen walks in sees
it storms out, Melly goes running after her. Karen is crying,
and Fits also comes in, and now every buddy's there,
(13:00):
and Karen's like, Melly.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Is screwing Uncle Andrew and Fits.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That's how Fitz learns that Melly is having an affair
with his best friend of a million years, who's sharing
the ticket with Andrew Nichols. And I just love so
much how that all unraveled. And then it's just so
sad because they're in this horrible fight and we realize
that Fits isn't upset because she's cheating. He's upset because
(13:31):
he just thought she was like done with being sexual,
because we flashed back to the time when Jerry Grant
raped her, and every time after that that Fitz would
try to touch her, she like cowers.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Away, and obviously there's so much trauma there.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And he was like, I just thought you fell out
of love with me, you didn't like sex anymore, and
you had the baby, and that happens to women sometimes
when they get pregnant and have babies, and Babe didn't
want me, and he was like, really, I'm just heartbroken
that it's not that you didn't want sex.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's that you didn't want me me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, that was such a great scene.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But then you see it on Bellamy's face, on Melly's
face that she wants to tell him, but she just can't.
She knows that it'll destroy fits if she tells him
that your dad raped me.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I'm like, can she just tell him?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh, just fucking tell him. Isn't he dead at this
point already?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, he's dead, Just tell him.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Maybe she's I think she's not really telling him because
she's still afraid that the sun might not be fitz.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh. Maybe at this point she's.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like situation, yeah, and I think she's more heartbroken that
their kid might not be theirs.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It might be, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But there's also that moment, Katie that you were just
talking about when Karen walks in on Melly on her
knees and she storms out, and then Olivia comes out
and bumps into Melly with her dress half off and
Mellie's and Olivia's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Again we lock them doors, lock them doors, Like why
are you locked them doors?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
With the White House like you're doing this. Do you
think Bill Clinton locked that door when he was doing
the nasty Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
He must have he must have adored.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
There's like a very sexual moment for people who like
the steamy, steamy sins.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of Steamy Sins of Scandal.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But I wrote whoa Fitz and Olivia are making out
in their area of the Oval office, and at the
same time, Millie and Andrew were making out in the
dining room and it's hot and he's like asking her
do you like it there or there? And she's like
both And it's like heavy breathing.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What the what?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And people are worried about me having sex in my trailer. Meanwhile,
this show, look at this, He's got his hand up
her skirt.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You like it there or there?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Who is writing this?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And also yay us, I'm always about it because I'm like,
you know what, our show was super violent. I feel
like Shanda used to always be like, it's crazy how
standards and practices the organization that sort of clears what
can be put on a network show. It's like unbelievable
what goes through in terms of violence, but what oh
(16:16):
yeah gets flagged in terms of sexual activity.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, it's such a it's such a I don't know
if double standard is the right word or it's shocking
that they'll show like someone's head getting blown off, Yes,
but if you put your hand up someone's skirt, like
that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, or you know what I meanst once like sexes
like yes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Another scene, Katie that stuck out to me. In this episode,
there's a phone call between Maya Pope and Olivia and
where Live calls Maya a terrorist and Maya's all, Sweetie,
you're the help doing this work for all these white people.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What about you, girl?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I'm not gonna how about I don't mess into your
business and you don't go into my business and will
be good. Oh but that's such a powerful scene because
that's that you could see the light bulb go off
in Olivia's head of her thinking, oh my god, am
I just the help?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And she feels like the help in this episode. I mean,
I might be a dick, but like, yeah, she's running
around cleaning up oh yeah, after their stupid, fucking trivial
family scenes to get this family in a place where
they could do a family interview that's supposed to help
him and his election to second term. And it's like
the whole time she's running around cleaning up you know
(17:35):
this one, give it a blowjob to this one and
this son fucking wearing this T shirt and wearing this
Twitter account and like Karen won't go on in the
school play.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Or like whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, and then this follows itself where she asks Cyrus,
She's like, are we just the help? Like what am
I doing? Is this worth it? Like I am like
this sucks.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But then and it's also it's such a power scene
when Fits is arguing with Mellie after he finds out
that she's messing around with Andrew Nichols, and Olivia comes
in and she's like, you guys, you have to knock,
and Fitch turns on her and says, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Talking to my wife. Oh, and that just is she feels.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Like the help, she shook. Yes, she feels like the help.
She feels like the mistress, she feels like the woman,
she feels like a side piece, she feels all those
things tiny and shitty.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And yeah, but in an instant he regreted immediately, Yes, yes, yes,
such a great.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Scene, such a great scene.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But then from that point on, Olivia's like, this is
my job. I am here to work. This is my job.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
She's like, oh no, no more of this help nonsense.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, we will be back with more after the break.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Wait, what the hell is Hawk doing in this episode?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
In this episode, he's trying to get Quinn back. Remember,
he's trying to get her out of be six thirteen.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
This is that scene, Kata this Hollywood Cemetery.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yes, yes, oh my god, I remember Tony Goldwyn directing
this scene with us.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I remember shooting it at Hollywood Cemetery. I remember being
there with you, but I don't remember him directing it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is what I remember?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Okay, So for gladiators listening, this is the scene where
obviously Huck and Quinn have like texted and be like,
let's meet at this super fucking shady bridge in this
terrifying cemetery because this is the ship that turns us on.
We're standing on this bridge and we're both in our
leather coats and I lick your face. Oh and then
we make out yeah pretty hotly in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, well, she says, yeah, that says something like you
were ready to kill me and you licked my face.
You were ready to kill me. But then when your
tongue goes in my mouth, that's a whole different story.
Now that changes everything. And then Quinn licks huck and
she's like, I'm to give you a taste of your
own medicine.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But yeah, oh, you pull my teeth out, you lick
my face. And now that I've shoved my tongue down
your throat, Oh now you like me. Now you want
me back, Now you want me a O pa.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yes, because the last time we saw them make out
was in Quinn's apartment when they have that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Where he and what I'm lying to Charlie about, nothing happened.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
He didn't do anything. He pushed me, like, we didn't
make out. I'm not super into this dude.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Super yes, yes, super We take.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Out And this is what I remember about twenty Goldwin
saying it was we shot that scene at night.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Oh yeah, and it was really dark.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
This is our six degrees of horror because we literally
for g on this episode because we literally shot this
scene in the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, which was so cool
to do.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's so cool. It's such a beautiful space.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's such a beautiful cemetery, and it's so filled with
just Hollywood legends. Yeah, and you Ben Garland watch movies there,
Judy Garland.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Judy Garland is buried there. Who else? I feel like
Marilyn Monroe may. I don't know. It's just a ton of.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I want to see, but I do remember Tony Goldwyn,
who's like the king of on camera makeouts, who's buried
hold On in Hollywood Forever Cemetery. He came up to
us and said, you know, it's really dark and you
guys are just like smashing your faces into each other
(21:24):
to make out, which obviously we were very good at that,
but he was like, I need there to be some
like some breaking a part of the kissing because I
am having a hard time seeing it because it's all
this looking like a dark mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And do you like my direction there?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I love it, And instead, so I think that's why, Like,
if you really study our smooching in that scene, it's
a lot more like I think you can just see
a little bit more space between our we.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Make out close up and then I pull your face
back and what we wanted and then we both stick
out our tongues, do you remember, and we like our
licking each other's tongues.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's fucking crazy. I just watched it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh my god. Coordinator like, oh how do you do that?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Now you have to be like, I think this is
the part where your lung tongue licks your tongue but
your lips aren't touching these we are sick.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Ohs I love it, okay, but it's such a good scene.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And then Quinn walks away, she gives she makes out
with him, does all that, and she's yeah, that's right,
that's how it is or something like that, and I
say that, yeah, yeah, you say, yeah, that's how it is.
And Hawk is just standing there like, oh my god,
I love Gwynn.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Okay, this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
This is who's buried there, Demil, Rudolph Valentino, Mickey Rooney,
Tyrone Power, Douglas Fairbanks, Johnny and d Ramone, Chris Cornell,
Humphrey Bogart, Elizabeth Taylor, Senser, Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Michael Jackson.
This is the other location, Nat King, Cole, Natalie Cole
(23:00):
Garland place is Why did everyone want to get buried there?
I haven't seen Judy Garland's gravestone? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I have I've seen it. Yeah, is it cool? It
is really cool. It is. I'm so happy we got
to film there, I know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And it's really cool because there's a ton of like mausoleums, yes, yes,
and building structures that are really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you remember the scene to Katie where we're making out.
I think after we're done making out in the shot,
put sort of pulls in switches into a wide You
just see this random swan just swim up right below us.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you remember that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I totally remember that. I feel like it's in the shot.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah. Oh yeah, it's totally in the shot. But that's
a show swan people.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It was awesome to shoot there, and I love shooting
that scene, and I feel like it's an iconic, iconic
awesome quinnin Hook.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Insane Listen, there's a lot of punching in this episode.
Huck Punch is a B six thirteen agent fits punches
Andrew Nichols and Quinn and Huck punch each other with
their tongues. There's a lot of punching in this episode, y'all.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Where we covered I don't remember anything about the fashion
to you, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't the horror stuff. Listen, Mattalie Carroll who played Karen.
That's her name right, the daughter?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is it Karen? She was on R.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
L Stein a TV series called The Haunting Hour and R.
L Stein is the person that created Goosebumps. Do you
remember Goosebumps? Of course?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I love I Love Goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And then they made the movie with Jack Black and
Dylan Mannette is the lead guy in Goosebumps the movie.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Who's Dylan Mannette?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
He plays Jerry.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Oh my god? Did Jerry and Karen have like a
couple degrees separation.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Of Yes, they sure do. But also Katie.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
One of my favorite things in this episode is at
the end when everybody makes up and they're like, Okay,
we're gonna be good to each other, We're gonna make
this interview work. And they all sit down, but then
Olivia walks in with freaking baby Gomez from Adam's family.
The little baby what's his name? I was like, what
is he?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Teddy?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I was like, what is this freaking little baby Gomez
freaking Adam's family doing here?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Where's the mustache?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Baby Gomez? I am dis ceased baby Gomez?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But does he look and I'm still sticking to my
story that baby Teddy was a girl that they kept
cutting to having boy haircuts. I really think that's what
was happening, if I remember correctly, that happening in the trailer, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Also wrote really quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Maddeline Cara, who played Karen, was also in a movie
called When a Stranger Calls, which is an amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Hall She's really good at that shit.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Now wait, Germo's Six Degrees of Horror.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I see in our notes here.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh yeah that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
In addition to Friday the Thirteenth, Tony Goldwyn, who directed
this episode, was in The belt Co Experiment in twenty sixteen,
which is a twisted social experiment. Eighty Americans are locked
in their high rise corporate office in book at That
Columbia and it's scary. There's an episode of Really Known,
an anthology about a man with a blog that searches
for the truth behind supernatural phenomenon documents people's stories of
(26:17):
their experiences with the unknown. And then oh, I didn't
know this. He was in the Last House on the Left.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yes, that's right to well, I've.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Ever seen that movie.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You have to see it. It's really good, is it
so scary?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Was it so scary?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's scary, but it's not crazy scary. I don't think
it's a super super scary film.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
But it's good. I think I could handle it. I
could handle it like you could handle it.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, okay, some tweets.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I have to whistle?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Could we do it? Could we actually whistle? If you
were going to whistle? The soundtrack to Scandal?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh god, I'm a terrible whistler.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
How does it go?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's really hard because it's not really like a melody?
What's the one minute song?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I don't even know. I'm errol. I can't, I can't,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Okay, we tried, We tried, But let us read some
of your tweets. Okay at no MG just Jordan Jasimone
tweeted on March twenty seven to twenty fourteen, my TV family,
Quinn will come back one day.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh she likes Quinn.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Let's see bella Dame noir, tweeted Tony Goldwin. Since you
directed tonight's episode, nothing will be FITs' fault?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right? Please say you edited that out? At Tom Verica
hashtag scandal.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh well that means, but what the hell is I
think she's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Trying to say that it ends up looking like none
of this was fits his fault, which I don't agree with.
I think you see again the regret when he yells
at Olivia and.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, all of that.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah. Emily Favreau tweeted a picture, Hey at Tony goldwhen
we think you look like at TVA eight who also
worked in the White House.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Think Fitz would hire him? Who is that?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
No? I don't know, but no, they look related. They
look related, but they don't look alike.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, they look related that the one on the right
is a ginger.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
These yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Side yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Abby at Abby Shobs tweeted quinnin Huk are weirdos side?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What do you call that? Side glance? Yeah, we are
weird is good, weirdest good Abby.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Weird is good.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Abby at Nikki Loves tweeted when Fitz finds out he
ain't the daddy, that scandal episode will be e mosh.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I don't know what either. It's a tay.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's not what happened, right, that ends up daddy is
the daddy.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, let's see. Tazzy Aria tweeted Glass Houses Olivia ashta scandal.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
She's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
She's not wrong because she was all pissed at Melly
having fucking around with Andrew Nichols, and she's like.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Girl, She was like, you can't do this.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I'm like, you're screwing the president.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, you're screwing the dang president. At Shonda Rhyme's replying
to at nerd Lady twenty one and at TV, Taylor tweeted,
you can definitely eat during tonight's scandal Tonight's surprises, but
not the kind that will make you nauseous.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Oohoo, I guess our kissing didn't make them nauseous.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
School school, Let's see the fitz Phone at the Fitzphone tweeted,
I love Scandal and I love Olitz, but I've been
waiting three years for proof that these kids exist.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
This is all I'm worried about right now. True.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
And then last one, ad Franco twelve tweeted, Fits is
the worst that makes me feel better. It's not only
Quinn haters in the house.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Right, There's some Fits haters now too.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And now, what is this?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Episode? Three sixteen? Next up is called the Fluffer Sluffer?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
What?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't remember? I guess we'll find out when we
watch it. I don't remember a fluffer is like in
porn films, the person that will go and twiddle your
your nuts and your wiener to get you to have
a boner so you could get ready to shoot the scene.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A fluffer.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh my god, you're I literally thought you were joking
and I just looked it up on Wikipedia. Yeah, a
fluffer is a person employed to keep a porn performer's
penis erect on the set. What are fluffing duties? But
you know what fluffing can mean?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Hold on a second, This is what I thought.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's a practice in public relations of spinning a topic
to present it in the most positive light.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's what it is. It's not regards to porn, but.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There it's both.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think it's both because that's definitely a slang word
in porn, a fluffer. There's a fluffer on set that
does that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
There's also a fluffer London Underground, a person who cleans
the tunnels during the night while the trains are not running.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Ooh, who the.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Hell knows where You're gonna have to tune in to
the next episode for us all to learn. Because it's
called the fluffer. Fluffer and it's probably awesome. We probably
have an amazing guest. Yes, we love you guys. This
episode really made me laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
These was fun. This was fun to tape.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Thanks glad. If you're singing with us, we know what
you like the fancy guests.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
But sometimes G and I just want to be selfish
and we only want to hang out with each other.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Guiermo. Did you get a haircut?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I did on Saturday. I got a haircut. Do you
like it?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And you have plain brown hair?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes? Can you believe it? I had it died first.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I had a bleach blonde, then I dyed it blue.
For a while, I had a green before the blue,
then blue, and then auditions started to pick up and
my manager was like, you need to dye your hair
back to black or back to brown.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I love your manager's so much that they say that
stuff to you. I feel like not all managers would
do that. This is a really personal question too that
I've always I think I want to ask you and
you don't have to answer honestly, But like, do you
shave into your eyebrows?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I do, just a think. I don't do it. My
barber does it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is there a name for that?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I just like the look it kind of looks like
I got, you know, like I have a scar almost
or whatever. And then if I like, I just did
the good doctor and not too long ago, and they
just you know, they just color it colored in.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And covered up. It's such an easy cover up.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
An eyebrow scar is very hot, it's very attractive. I
want to say, Jason Momoa has one. Oh my son
busted his eyebrow when he was eighteen months old and
has a really nice eyebrow scar. That is good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah. Oh, I hope it stays with him for.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh it's that whole life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
He completely has it. It's white in here, like a
white line.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh, it's so cute.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
And I was so upset. Oh my god, I sobbed
when it happened. I was like his perfect angelic face
that I created in my own body. And then I
both myself has been completely tainted by this fareva scar
and now I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What was the accident was?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh my god, it was awful.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
He was sitting on my lap and I was just
reading him a book or something like that, like I
was sitting crisscross applesauce, and he like soot up and
went to the bookshelf to go grab another book, and
he tripped on my knee and nailed his face on
the corner of the bookshelf.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was like a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He wasn't really great at walking yet and he nailed
and it was just like this big open cut in
his eyebrow. And I swear I spent a good four
hours going down a total spiral of looking up every
hot person that has an eyebrow scar.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You were like, this is to make sure that my
son is okay.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And there are plenty it's and you yourself are giving
one bulloh opting for that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Hello, I'm shaving into it myself.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Oh my god, You're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
What.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
On November fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Momoa was slashed in the
face with a broken beer glass at Bird's Cafe No
in Hollywood, California. He received one hundred and forty stitches
during reconstructive surgery, which resulted in the scar on his
left eyebrow.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yo, that's messed up. Who the hell sliced into his face?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Have you ever gotten to a fight in a bar? No?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I've never even gotten into a fight. Have you been
in a fight?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Shit? I have, but it's been like quick, not like
a full on like I remember too growing up in
New York, like friends that would be like yo, after
school and then they'd like take their shirts off.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
All the kids would come out to watch. It was
like a freaking boxing match, and I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, like I've gotten into like, you know, shoving matches
and a little bit of fighting, but very quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you ever throw a punch, like at somebody's face?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I have thrown a punch, yeah, And I didn't like it.
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'm so interesting because you always play such I feel
like you play some pretty fucking badass characters that have
been in a lot of fights.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You're saying this, Katie, because in this episode that we're
about to talk about, it's called Mama Said Knock you Out, Yes,
and and Huck beat up on a B six thirteen agent.
There's a couple of punches thrown in this episode. So
that's so interesting that you're segueing into this thing.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Honey, It's so good. Oh, aren't I I'm incredible?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Hello, You're like, dumb motherfucker. I planned this show.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I had no idea. This is coincidental. I had literally
no idea. I don't know why we're talking about fighting, oh,
because we're talking about Jason Momoa's eyebrow.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh my god, Gladiators, we're excited about this episode. Though.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This episode is pisode three fifteen. It's called Mama Said
Knock You Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh shout out? Oh cool Jay?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Oh, el l cool Jay. I saw him once at
a diner in Long Island.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You did, Have you ever met that? I've never No,
I've never met him, but I did a movie. I
was in a movie with him called Into Deep, but
I didn't have any scenes with him, but I love him.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So Mama Said Knock You Out aired on March twenty seven,
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And it was written by Zahir McGhee and directed by
Tony Goldwin.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
What what, Oh my god? What what what?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This episode is chock full guest starring John Tennys, Andrew Nichols,
Candy Alexander Is, Maya Lewis, Dylan Minnette as Jerry Grid Junior.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh God, he's gonna die so sad, but not in
this episode.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Madeline Carrol is Karen grit nazanin Boniati's Ad Non.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Salif, Charmila Davar is Lauren Wellman, Mackenzie Aston is Noah Baker,
Carlo Rota as Ivan Molly Bakers, Rachel Moss, Troy Wynn
Bush as Morris Elcott, and Eben Ham as Tanner Shaw.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Okay synopsis. When Olivia can't cancel an impending Grant family interview,
we roll back the clock to view the chaos that
led up to the minute before. Literally, Melly and Andrew
continue their affair while Olivia digs dirt up on the grandchildren,
only to uncover some minor political bashing that becomes a
bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Then Adnan shows up to o Pa, seemingly turning herself
in while Quinn tries to reclaim some power back from Huck.
Moments before the interview, Fits learns about Melly's affair. Miraculously,
they pull it together at the last moment, as Olivia
and Quinn both get some shocking news at the end
of the episode, Wow, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This episode is a ringer.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's fun, it's a doozy.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's a doozy and.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
We really get This is the episode where we really
get the Grant kids. They have to carry a lot
of acting scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, Katie, my first thought was what a couple of
spoiled brats. These two fucking schlubs are like they're just
moping around all pissed off about what, like.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, your mommy, ooh, you're in Dan, you're going to
this fancy fucking school and you're going to this fancy
school and you're so miserable about your parents, like when when?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
When? And the girls like get out of my bedroom
and that once. I'm like, girl, I didn't even have
my own bedroom. At least you have your own bedroom
to ask somebody to get out. You're annoying me, I know.
And this episode starts at ten right off the.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Top, Yeah, I wrote dinner with Fits and Melly and
Karen and Jerry. It is the worst family dinner ever.
And he says, at the end of the day, let's
remember that we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Love each other.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And then I was like, yikes, doesn't seem like nobody
loves nobody in this family.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right, I was just gonna say really quick, and Melly
to the daughter, She's like, I don't know if you're
still vegan, but I think this is made with nuts,
and she's I'm just gonna eat the salad girl.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Whatever. Quinn does okay in this episode.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I listen, this is ponytail, Quinn. I call it ponytail.
Quinn is a bad ass. Yo. Whenever you see Quinn
in a ponytail, you know some badass stuff is gonna
go down in the episode.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yes, that's exactly exactly right. But Quinn in this episode
is Charlie is a dog with a.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Bone, is going after Quinn so hard? What do you mean,
Huck was in your apartment? What happened in your apartment?
When did he push you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Did he push you?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Before?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And after? And he's quizzing me. He's like, you, guys,
argue before, did you before he pushed you?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Or after he pushed She's jealous.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Possessive, and creepy as shit. Quinn constantly just trying to
calm this psychopath of a boyfriend who seems as abusive
and possessive and jealous as all hell. Ladies listening to
this podcast, if you got a boyfriend that's acting.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like that, get out.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But yo, But Katie just ended to play devil's advocate
in his defense.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Quinn is straight up aling to him. He's he's la
la la lying.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So he has a reason to be this sort of
jealous and inquisitive because she's straight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Up lying to him.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes she did make out.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, Yes, by my case, No boyfriend like that.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, he's quizzing her. They're in the car. They're like
torturing a guy like bad.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
They're in the clear, Aprinds, she's ponytail, Quinn, this is
all happening.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, they have Dmitri in the trunk, the guy that
they're gonna they're about to torture.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, what else do we got?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
What?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Other highlights of this episode? Favorite favorite scenes.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
This is the episode that made me think, don't these
people lock their doors when they're about to fuck around
with somebody that they're not supposed to be sucking around with,
even if you're will be working around with them, lock
the door.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You're in the White House.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Mellie goes down on Andrew Nichols and leaves the door unlocked.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Her daughter walks right in. What the hell? Come on,
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You were the best trailer locker listening ever.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
White Trailer Debauchery Guermo was always locked.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It was the lock.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I take it from somebody who I never locked my door.
I never locked my trailer door. I am not a
door locker. Really, Yeah, it's bad. I don't like really bad,
and you know what, you're right because like at some
point my kids are coming in and I don't even
have locks on my door.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You don't. Oh wow, do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You have locks on your bedroom door in your house?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, there's a lock on the bedroom door. There's a
lock in the room I'm in right now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
The lock is a horse that slides overcause they don't
have the secret bookcase in this room that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, because you grew up with three boys in
a bedroom and like you didn't have any of your
own space ever.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Probably and now I like privacy, like don't be coming
in my room unless you knock. And even on set
I remember, and not only on Scandal, on other projects
people would you know the ad Will the eighty or
their second and whoever comes to.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Get your base camp, whoever's like running base.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Camp like a courtesy knock and then open the door, No, bitch,
knock and then wait for me to open the door,
enter or us or you open the door your ex exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Don't be opening the door after you knock.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
This episode also reminds me of the shenanigans that were
going on when Kelly on Conway Hasty Secretary yea.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And her kids.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do you remember her daughter was like on TikTok, totally
talking shit about her mother.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
And this is what's happening in the episode, because we
learned that Jerry Junior has created some fake Twitter account
or something that's super against his dad's presidency and her
his dad running for a second term. Yes, talk and
abby they like shut the Twitter account down.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, and he's playing on wearing that shirt. Oh yeah,
the governor resting like wear is about.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
To come out there, this little spoiled privileged shit. Yeah,
and come out there wearing a governor rest.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
In t shirt.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But Olivia's bitey senses catch that, right, because when she's
having that little talk with with Jerry and Karen, she
then she talks out and remember who she talks about.
She's like there was something off. I'm not sure what
it is, but look into those kids, and she was right.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
She was spault spolt on.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, what else did we like in this episode? I'm okay.
I wrote and add Non and Harrison fuck again.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yay?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah it sure did.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
They have sex again? I think the entire section Melly
is going down on andrew daughter. Karen walks in sees
it storms out, Melly goes running after her. Karen is crying,
and Fits also comes in, and now every buddy's there,
(13:00):
and Karen's like, Melly.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Is screwing Uncle Andrew and Fits.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That's how Fitz learns that Melly is having an affair
with his best friend of a million years, who's sharing
the ticket with Andrew Nichols. And I just love so
much how that all unraveled. And then it's just so
sad because they're in this horrible fight and we realize
that Fits isn't upset because she's cheating. He's upset because
(13:31):
he just thought she was like done with being sexual,
because we flashed back to the time when Jerry Grant
raped her, and every time after that that Fitz would
try to touch her, she like cowers.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Away, and obviously there's so much trauma there.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And he was like, I just thought you fell out
of love with me, you didn't like sex anymore, and
you had the baby, and that happens to women sometimes
when they get pregnant and have babies, and Babe didn't
want me, and he was like, really, I'm just heartbroken
that it's not that you didn't want sex.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's that you didn't want me me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, that was such a great scene.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But then you see it on Bellamy's face, on Melly's
face that she wants to tell him, but she just can't.
She knows that it'll destroy fits if she tells him
that your dad raped me.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I'm like, can she just tell him?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh, just fucking tell him. Isn't he dead at this
point already?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, he's dead, Just tell him.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Maybe she's I think she's not really telling him because
she's still afraid that the sun might not be fitz.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh. Maybe at this point she's.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like situation, yeah, and I think she's more heartbroken that
their kid might not be theirs.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It might be, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But there's also that moment, Katie that you were just
talking about when Karen walks in on Melly on her
knees and she storms out, and then Olivia comes out
and bumps into Melly with her dress half off and
Mellie's and Olivia's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Again we lock them doors, lock them doors, Like why
are you locked them doors?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
With the White House like you're doing this. Do you
think Bill Clinton locked that door when he was doing
the nasty Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
He must have he must have adored.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
There's like a very sexual moment for people who like
the steamy, steamy sins.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of Steamy Sins of Scandal.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But I wrote whoa Fitz and Olivia are making out
in their area of the Oval office, and at the
same time, Millie and Andrew were making out in the
dining room and it's hot and he's like asking her
do you like it there or there? And she's like
both And it's like heavy breathing.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What the what?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And people are worried about me having sex in my trailer. Meanwhile,
this show, look at this, He's got his hand up
her skirt.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You like it there or there?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Who is writing this?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And also yay us, I'm always about it because I'm like,
you know what, our show was super violent. I feel
like Shanda used to always be like, it's crazy how
standards and practices the organization that sort of clears what
can be put on a network show. It's like unbelievable
what goes through in terms of violence, but what oh
(16:16):
yeah gets flagged in terms of sexual activity.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, it's such a it's such a I don't know
if double standard is the right word or it's shocking
that they'll show like someone's head getting blown off, Yes,
but if you put your hand up someone's skirt, like
that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, or you know what I meanst once like sexes
like yes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Another scene, Katie that stuck out to me. In this episode,
there's a phone call between Maya Pope and Olivia and
where Live calls Maya a terrorist and Maya's all, Sweetie,
you're the help doing this work for all these white people.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What about you, girl?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I'm not gonna how about I don't mess into your
business and you don't go into my business and will
be good. Oh but that's such a powerful scene because
that's that you could see the light bulb go off
in Olivia's head of her thinking, oh my god, am
I just the help?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
And she feels like the help in this episode. I mean,
I might be a dick, but like, yeah, she's running
around cleaning up oh yeah, after their stupid, fucking trivial
family scenes to get this family in a place where
they could do a family interview that's supposed to help
him and his election to second term. And it's like
the whole time she's running around cleaning up you know
(17:35):
this one, give it a blowjob to this one and
this son fucking wearing this T shirt and wearing this
Twitter account and like Karen won't go on in the
school play.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Or like whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, and then this follows itself where she asks Cyrus,
She's like, are we just the help? Like what am
I doing? Is this worth it? Like I am like
this sucks.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But then and it's also it's such a power scene
when Fits is arguing with Mellie after he finds out
that she's messing around with Andrew Nichols, and Olivia comes
in and she's like, you guys, you have to knock,
and Fitch turns on her and says, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Talking to my wife. Oh, and that just is she feels.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Like the help, she shook. Yes, she feels like the help.
She feels like the mistress, she feels like the woman,
she feels like a side piece, she feels all those
things tiny and shitty.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And yeah, but in an instant he regreted immediately, Yes, yes, yes,
such a great.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Scene, such a great scene.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But then from that point on, Olivia's like, this is
my job. I am here to work. This is my job.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
She's like, oh no, no more of this help nonsense.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, we will be back with more after the break.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Wait, what the hell is Hawk doing in this episode?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
In this episode, he's trying to get Quinn back. Remember,
he's trying to get her out of be six thirteen.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
This is that scene, Kata this Hollywood Cemetery.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yes, yes, oh my god, I remember Tony Goldwyn directing
this scene with us.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I remember shooting it at Hollywood Cemetery. I remember being
there with you, but I don't remember him directing it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is what I remember?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Okay, So for gladiators listening, this is the scene where
obviously Huck and Quinn have like texted and be like,
let's meet at this super fucking shady bridge in this
terrifying cemetery because this is the ship that turns us on.
We're standing on this bridge and we're both in our
leather coats and I lick your face. Oh and then
we make out yeah pretty hotly in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, well, she says, yeah, that says something like you
were ready to kill me and you licked my face.
You were ready to kill me. But then when your
tongue goes in my mouth, that's a whole different story.
Now that changes everything. And then Quinn licks huck and
she's like, I'm to give you a taste of your
own medicine.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But yeah, oh, you pull my teeth out, you lick
my face. And now that I've shoved my tongue down
your throat, Oh now you like me. Now you want
me back, Now you want me a O pa.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yes, because the last time we saw them make out
was in Quinn's apartment when they have that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Where he and what I'm lying to Charlie about, nothing happened.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
He didn't do anything. He pushed me, like, we didn't
make out. I'm not super into this dude.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Super yes, yes, super We take.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Out And this is what I remember about twenty Goldwin
saying it was we shot that scene at night.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Oh yeah, and it was really dark.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
This is our six degrees of horror because we literally
for g on this episode because we literally shot this
scene in the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, which was so cool
to do.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's so cool. It's such a beautiful space.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's such a beautiful cemetery, and it's so filled with
just Hollywood legends. Yeah, and you Ben Garland watch movies there,
Judy Garland.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Judy Garland is buried there. Who else? I feel like
Marilyn Monroe may. I don't know. It's just a ton of.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I want to see, but I do remember Tony Goldwyn,
who's like the king of on camera makeouts, who's buried
hold On in Hollywood Forever Cemetery. He came up to
us and said, you know, it's really dark and you
guys are just like smashing your faces into each other
(21:24):
to make out, which obviously we were very good at that,
but he was like, I need there to be some
like some breaking a part of the kissing because I
am having a hard time seeing it because it's all
this looking like a dark mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And do you like my direction there?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I love it, And instead, so I think that's why, Like,
if you really study our smooching in that scene, it's
a lot more like I think you can just see
a little bit more space between our we.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Make out close up and then I pull your face
back and what we wanted and then we both stick
out our tongues, do you remember, and we like our
licking each other's tongues.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's fucking crazy. I just watched it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh my god. Coordinator like, oh how do you do that?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Now you have to be like, I think this is
the part where your lung tongue licks your tongue but
your lips aren't touching these we are sick.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Ohs I love it, okay, but it's such a good scene.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And then Quinn walks away, she gives she makes out
with him, does all that, and she's yeah, that's right,
that's how it is or something like that, and I
say that, yeah, yeah, you say, yeah, that's how it is.
And Hawk is just standing there like, oh my god,
I love Gwynn.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Okay, this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
This is who's buried there, Demil, Rudolph Valentino, Mickey Rooney,
Tyrone Power, Douglas Fairbanks, Johnny and d Ramone, Chris Cornell,
Humphrey Bogart, Elizabeth Taylor, Senser, Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, Michael Jackson.
This is the other location, Nat King, Cole, Natalie Cole
(23:00):
Garland place is Why did everyone want to get buried there?
I haven't seen Judy Garland's gravestone? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I have I've seen it. Yeah, is it cool? It
is really cool. It is. I'm so happy we got
to film there, I know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And it's really cool because there's a ton of like mausoleums, yes, yes,
and building structures that are really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you remember the scene to Katie where we're making out.
I think after we're done making out in the shot,
put sort of pulls in switches into a wide You
just see this random swan just swim up right below us.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you remember that.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I totally remember that. I feel like it's in the shot.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah. Oh yeah, it's totally in the shot. But that's
a show swan people.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It was awesome to shoot there, and I love shooting
that scene, and I feel like it's an iconic, iconic
awesome quinnin Hook.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Insane Listen, there's a lot of punching in this episode.
Huck Punch is a B six thirteen agent fits punches
Andrew Nichols and Quinn and Huck punch each other with
their tongues. There's a lot of punching in this episode, y'all.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Where we covered I don't remember anything about the fashion
to you, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't the horror stuff. Listen, Mattalie Carroll who played Karen.
That's her name right, the daughter?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is it Karen? She was on R.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
L Stein a TV series called The Haunting Hour and R.
L Stein is the person that created Goosebumps. Do you
remember Goosebumps? Of course?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I love I Love Goosebumps.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And then they made the movie with Jack Black and
Dylan Mannette is the lead guy in Goosebumps the movie.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Who's Dylan Mannette?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
He plays Jerry.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Oh my god? Did Jerry and Karen have like a
couple degrees separation.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Of Yes, they sure do. But also Katie.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
One of my favorite things in this episode is at
the end when everybody makes up and they're like, Okay,
we're gonna be good to each other, We're gonna make
this interview work. And they all sit down, but then
Olivia walks in with freaking baby Gomez from Adam's family.
The little baby what's his name? I was like, what
is he?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Teddy?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I was like, what is this freaking little baby Gomez
freaking Adam's family doing here?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Where's the mustache?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Baby Gomez? I am dis ceased baby Gomez?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But does he look and I'm still sticking to my
story that baby Teddy was a girl that they kept
cutting to having boy haircuts. I really think that's what
was happening, if I remember correctly, that happening in the trailer, and.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Also wrote really quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Maddeline Cara, who played Karen, was also in a movie
called When a Stranger Calls, which is an amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Hall She's really good at that shit.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Now wait, Germo's Six Degrees of Horror.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I see in our notes here.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh yeah that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
In addition to Friday the Thirteenth, Tony Goldwyn, who directed
this episode, was in The belt Co Experiment in twenty sixteen,
which is a twisted social experiment. Eighty Americans are locked
in their high rise corporate office in book at That
Columbia and it's scary. There's an episode of Really Known,
an anthology about a man with a blog that searches
for the truth behind supernatural phenomenon documents people's stories of
(26:17):
their experiences with the unknown. And then oh, I didn't
know this. He was in the Last House on the Left.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yes, that's right to well, I've.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Ever seen that movie.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You have to see it. It's really good, is it
so scary?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Was it so scary?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's scary, but it's not crazy scary. I don't think
it's a super super scary film.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
But it's good. I think I could handle it. I
could handle it like you could handle it.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, okay, some tweets.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I have to whistle?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Could we do it? Could we actually whistle? If you
were going to whistle? The soundtrack to Scandal?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh god, I'm a terrible whistler.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
How does it go?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's really hard because it's not really like a melody?
What's the one minute song?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I don't even know. I'm errol. I can't, I can't,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Okay, we tried, We tried, But let us read some
of your tweets. Okay at no MG just Jordan Jasimone
tweeted on March twenty seven to twenty fourteen, my TV family,
Quinn will come back one day.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh she likes Quinn.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Let's see bella Dame noir, tweeted Tony Goldwin. Since you
directed tonight's episode, nothing will be FITs' fault?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right? Please say you edited that out? At Tom Verica
hashtag scandal.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh well that means, but what the hell is I
think she's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Trying to say that it ends up looking like none
of this was fits his fault, which I don't agree with.
I think you see again the regret when he yells
at Olivia and.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, all of that.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah. Emily Favreau tweeted a picture, Hey at Tony goldwhen
we think you look like at TVA eight who also
worked in the White House.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Think Fitz would hire him? Who is that?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
No? I don't know, but no, they look related. They
look related, but they don't look alike.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, they look related that the one on the right
is a ginger.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
These yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Side yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Abby at Abby Shobs tweeted quinnin Huk are weirdos side?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What do you call that? Side glance? Yeah, we are
weird is good, weirdest good Abby.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Weird is good.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Abby at Nikki Loves tweeted when Fitz finds out he
ain't the daddy, that scandal episode will be e mosh.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I don't know what either. It's a tay.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's not what happened, right, that ends up daddy is
the daddy.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, let's see. Tazzy Aria tweeted Glass Houses Olivia ashta scandal.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
She's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
She's not wrong because she was all pissed at Melly
having fucking around with Andrew Nichols, and she's like.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Girl, She was like, you can't do this.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I'm like, you're screwing the president.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, you're screwing the dang president. At Shonda Rhyme's replying
to at nerd Lady twenty one and at TV, Taylor tweeted,
you can definitely eat during tonight's scandal Tonight's surprises, but
not the kind that will make you nauseous.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Oohoo, I guess our kissing didn't make them nauseous.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
School school, Let's see the fitz Phone at the Fitzphone tweeted,
I love Scandal and I love Olitz, but I've been
waiting three years for proof that these kids exist.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
This is all I'm worried about right now. True.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
And then last one, ad Franco twelve tweeted, Fits is
the worst that makes me feel better. It's not only
Quinn haters in the house.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Right, There's some Fits haters now too.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And now, what is this?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Episode? Three sixteen? Next up is called the Fluffer Sluffer?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
What?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I don't remember? I guess we'll find out when we
watch it. I don't remember a fluffer is like in
porn films, the person that will go and twiddle your
your nuts and your wiener to get you to have
a boner so you could get ready to shoot the scene.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A fluffer.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh my god, you're I literally thought you were joking
and I just looked it up on Wikipedia. Yeah, a
fluffer is a person employed to keep a porn performer's
penis erect on the set. What are fluffing duties? But
you know what fluffing can mean?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Hold on a second, This is what I thought.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's a practice in public relations of spinning a topic
to present it in the most positive light.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's what it is. It's not regards to porn, but.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There it's both.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think it's both because that's definitely a slang word
in porn, a fluffer. There's a fluffer on set that
does that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
There's also a fluffer London Underground, a person who cleans
the tunnels during the night while the trains are not running.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Ooh, who the.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Hell knows where You're gonna have to tune in to
the next episode for us all to learn. Because it's
called the fluffer. Fluffer and it's probably awesome. We probably
have an amazing guest. Yes, we love you guys. This
episode really made me laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
These was fun. This was fun to tape.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Thanks glad. If you're singing with us, we know what
you like the fancy guests.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
But sometimes G and I just want to be selfish
and we only want to hang out with each other.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
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Speaker 1 (31:34):
Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.
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Speaker 4 (31:43):
Unpacking the Toolbox was executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alce,
Lauren Homan, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and
editor is Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
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Speaker 4 (32:00):
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