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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Up On Gaine Presents Taylor Scouting Coach Randy Taylor.
He's bringing his forty plus years of knowledge to you.
This is Taylor Scouting, and now here's coach Randy Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back to LeVar Arrington's up on Game Network, where
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Taylor Scouting. Today, we're going to talk to parents who
have had three children go through the college recruiting process,
including a former NFL star. How about that? Welcome Tom
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and Amy Seward to the show. Now tell them. I'll
tell you about coach Sewart. He's a longtime football coach.
He's been at schools like Illinois Howard University, Southern Illinois UNLV,
and his lovely wife, Amy Sewart, is a former Honeybear
for the Chicago Bears. And so today's show is about
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parenting athletes, and I think you guys are going to
get a lot out of this, right. I have had
a long friendship with the Sewards and have witnessed their
adventures with their kids going through high school and into college.
And I like Tom and Amy's opinions about the recruiting
process and college football in general. My first question is
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to is a two parter.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The first part is give us three things that impressed
you during the recruiting process.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I like the coaches that knew about our sons. They
knew the game that they had played the night before,
They knew how many tackles they had made. Both of
our sons were defensive players. Our daughter was a cheerleader,
so this was a different recruiting process for her, but
as far as our sons go, they were both defensive
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players and both linebackers, so the coaches knew who they played,
they knew how many tackles they made, They knew something
about them when they would call and make their weekly
calls when the recruiting process got to that point. I
liked that they involved me as the mom, especially on
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the official visits. They made me feel comfortable. They made
me feel they built a rapport with me, and that
was important because I'm handing over my children basically, in
my opinion, for the next four or five years to them,
and I wanted to feel comfortable with them, and they
did make me feel that way. I was impressed with that.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
That's great time, Well, I say that, you know, when
you get to the point where your coaches are coming
in on a home visit, you know, it starts out
with letters, and then it goes to phone calls and
then it goes to home visits.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Now you know are really being recruited. And for me that.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Recruiting process as a stepping stone as far as how
it begins and how it ends, and that home visit,
I look for that coach to make sure he's well dressed,
well mannered, on time, knows a little bit about the
high school my son's playing at, the record, who the
head coach is? Some stats, not all stats great point average?
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You know, did they do the homework or or are
they really serious about recruiting our kids? So that part
of the recruiting process is fun if the coaches are
really serious about, you know, wanting to offer your kid
a scholarship. So that part of the process I did enjoy.
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Not all the coaches knew a lot about our kids,
and that basically meant they weren't really serious.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh so, uh we enjoyed the part of the recruiting price.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
When did you realize that you were that your kids
are being recruited?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I can answer that because I get the mail
every day. Our both of our sons started to get
letters media guides every week as sophomores in high school,
and I would say at least two hundred schools. We
have boxes and boxes and boxes of letters media guides,
way before even the phone calls started. So that was
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our first, you know, inclination, and being the wife of
a former college coach, I knew what to expect based
on my husband's career that he was a football coach,
so I did know about recruiting. But obviously when you
start your mailman saying things to you like I'm going
to get another bag for all the mail you guys
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are getting every day. So the mail is the first
step obviously. And they started coming as sophomores.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And then they would go to the high school give
the high school coach letters to give the Adam, ad
be in the weight room and Mark so you know,
but I knew as a former college coach. Letters are generic.
I mean, anybody us in the letter to somebody. They
want you to come to the camp, which is okay.
They want you to come to a combine or come
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on an unofficial visit. You know, they're trying to get
you to come without any expense. Uh So we knew
that letters were, you know, not indicative of a scholarship offer,
but it was nice to get. It's nice to get
a letter from Dame. I mean, who wants you know,
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I mean, you get the Golden Dome letter. That's cool.
But then you are you have your feet on the
ground because you know that this until they really start
calling you every Thursday night and coming in for a
home visit, that there's no offer. They're just trying to
keep you on on their shot list of who they're
going to sign and recruit.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Keep you warm. Did the head coach start getting involved?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yes, the head coaches got involved, and that's I thought.
I was impressed by that that the head coaches that
were really serious, the schools that were very serious, they
came into our home right away and not just the
position coach, and we had a real rapport with these
head coaches, And to me, that was important. Showed effort,
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It showed interest, It showed that they were committed to
our sons.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And they never asked that question, who's recruiting your son?
They knew that our kids were being recruited. They didn't
have to ask that question, who's our competition? Because they
were there to get the kids to come to their school.
And it's nice to get a coach on the phone
to offer your kids a scholarship.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I know, a.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Verbal offer, but it's nice to get and you know
and your kid you're trying to hold your kids back,
not to commit.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Thank them for the offer.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Keep your options open, and make sure you meet the
position coach at that school that's recruiting you. That's important
that you meet the position coach and then to find
out where you're going to play, what position?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Recruit me ask where do I stack up with the
other players?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And it's good to get good information like that, and
honest information, not information that makes you feel good.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I don't want to feel good.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I want the truth on what do you think my
son is going to fit into your school?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
What are some of the things that you didn't like
about the way the coaches went about it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I didn't like some of the coaches, to be honest,
used poor language and put down other schools, and that
I did not like that. I thought, if you believed
in your school and your program, you shouldn't have to
cut down other schools and I was surprised at the
coaches that did do that. And these were pretty you know,
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well known schools. But I did not like that part.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
And then you know, again cutting down the high school
if they're not winning, uh was bad?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know, and you know, they don't need to talk
about about the high school coach that my son's was
playing for the record of what happened, being on time,
being well addressed, being well mannered, knowing who my kids are,
you know, that's important. You know, you know what my
son's gray poorn average is. You get his transcript? How'd
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you like his head high school coach?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
You know? And and they should be prepared on a
home visit.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Because you want to get so many home visits, so
that that part I didn't like.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And I mark them off the list.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
If they didn't even know the name and my son's
mascot or his high school coach, his grade point average?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
What do you went to major in? I marked them off.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Were there some that the relationship became so good that
you had a hard time saying no to them?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yes? Yes, And that does happen, especially when you go
on the visit to the school and they're taking you
out to dinner and you know you're They've called your
house every week and normally I'm the one that answers
the phone. And it was hard. That is hard.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
They want to yes, they want to hear you say yes,
and you're trying not to disappoint them. You're trying to
keep all your eggs in a basket and not commit.
But you know, it's nice to get offers, and then
you you realize that these offers.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And then that's what we didn't like.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
We didn't like to pressure you know, if you don't
take this offer now, it may not be available next month.
I'm thinking, well, then we're not good for your school.
Uh pressured us to make a decision.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Is there anything you would do differently from the coaches perspective?
How would you fix and we'll talk about nil on
transfer in a second. How would you improve the recruiting process?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Well, I think that if you're a mid major school,
what means you're not a power five school and the
recruits that you're recruiting are being recruited by power five schools,
is you better focus maybe on some of your other
kids you know that fit your criteria as far as
ah not power five school. I think I wasted a
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lot of time or spend a lot of time on
kids that were going to come to my school because
they had offers, you know, at bigger schools, and they
want to play at a bigger school.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Uh. And there were.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Times when I would stay in touch with them a
little bit, but focus more on the kids that wanted
to come to my school or college. And then if
we got lucky and a kid uh got you know,
scholarship dropped and and and he came to our school,
that that was a bonus.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
That didn't happen very often.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But that's why you had to keep them warm, right
that that phrase keep.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Them yeah, because if you don't, somebody else is yeah.
And that's about recruiting. It's a process where you you
need to stay focused on your your number one recruits
that you feel you can get, and then keep the
other recruits uh warm. Uh maybe you know by a
phone call whereas not as long and then you know,
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if they're not going to answer your phone call or
make an excuse why they can't come to the phone,
there are times you need to drop drop the recruit
and move on and spend more time with what you
have that that's willing to want to come to school.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
How important was it to get your sons to the
camp or to their camps or their junior days to
actually see the school and meet the other coaches.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We didn't do that a lot. We did it some
to the schools around us, but we didn't do it
for other schools. Were well, they didn't have time. They
had a game Friday night, they were practicing watching film Saturday.
They it was hard to do that. They didn't have
the time to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're honest.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
They were wrestling, they were in track and field, they
were at an academic school, getting a's and b's, mostly a's.
We probably, UH, there's no hindsight because they all were successful.
But you know, we were kind of dumb as far
as camps because that started when our kids were being recruited,
and that was something that we should have taken more
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advantage of. UH is going to the schools on unofficial visits,
UH and then try to save your official visits. You
have five to schools where academically and athletically your sons
fit in and liked more.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I think it's important for families to go to
camps and combines.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
UH.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
And go to these kids go to these summer camps
and and because it's it's a free evaluation for the
college coaches.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, I gotta So we're gonna talk real quickly about
the transfer portal. You guys didn't have to deal with that, but, uh,
what's your thought about the transfer portal in a couple sentences.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Allows players to be able to transfer because they're not
happy for whatever reason. It should be because they're not
being treated fairly. The competition is not fair. Uh, they
want to experience other places. But I think the transfer
portal has shifted to the players having most advantage over
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the coaches, and now coaches need to be respectful, they
need they need to learn how to coach correctly, and
then these kids won't want to transfer. So I agree
that they should be able to transfer because there are
coaches that are very good and they get in the
doghouse for whatever reason and they never play and they
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have no options. They have to go get an AA degree,
they have to have their they have to be released,
which coaches aren't going to do. So it takes a
lot of time to get an AA degree. After you've
played one year at a four year school and then
try to transfer.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Something else that happens to kids. It didn't happen to
our kids, but it does happen. You get recruited by
one coaching staff and then they all get fired and
another staff comes in and they want to make themselves.
They want to play their recruits. So they kids get
in the middle there, especially as freshmen or sophomores or whatever,
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they get caught in that. So I think in that
case it would be good that they would be able
to transfer.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I just want to thank you Amy and Tom for
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