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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. It's Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
Nice to chat with you today. You're on the road.
You're now in Florida. We had maybe one of the
greatest dinners I think I've ever had last night with
some of the most brilliant minds around the table in
Nashville after the event in Franklin, and it was I
think you probably enjoyed that dinner as much as I did,
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because you had Clay Travis, Michael Knows, Ben Shapiro. I
was an honor to be there. You were there and
many other brilliant minds talking about some of the most
fun topics and politics, and they were all revolving around
what we're all seeing change very quickly, and that is
there's a very good chance that not only are we
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gonna grab the House, but we could grab the Senate
and have some really good numbers there as well. Yeah,
that's right. We had an amazing dinner that went until
late in the evening, and I would say the consensus
of pretty much everyone around the table is that the
momentum is moving significantly in the right direction, and I'm
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more optimistic. I think more and more observers are getting
really optimistic that Republicans' chances for taking the Senate look
quite good, and we could easily end up with not
just a majority in the House, but a large majority
in the House, and that that's good news. One of
the reasons why I think this is happening, Center, is
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that I think a lot of the American people, especially
while they're suffering, are tired of being lied to. The
President came out today with another ridiculous lie. Here's what
he said today. The most common price of gas in
America is three dollars and thirty nine cents, down from
over five dollars when I took office. We need to
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keep making that progress by having energy companies bring down
the cost of a gallon of gas that reflects the
cost they're pain for a barrel of oil. Center, you
and I both know that when he became president United
States of America, the average price of gas was two
thirty nine, meaning fifty percent. We're playing less than that.
On the day that he became president, I paid under
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two dollars a gallon where I was and because I
remember looking wanting to see how quick it was going
to go up. This is just a lie that every
American knows is not true. Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
It is a blatant lie. It's obvious, and it has
to be deliberate. Look, even in Joe Biden's severely diminished state,
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he knows he's lying. Gas was not five dollars a
gallon when he became president. It was two dollars and
thirty nine cents a gallon. That this is also an
interesting test for every some single fake news corporate media
outlet it pretends to do fact checking, if all of
them do not immediately fact check this and call it
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out as a It's not kind of a little bit
a lie. It's not slightly a lie. He suggested. He
didn't suggest. He said that gas was more than twice
as much as it was when he came in, and
he did that because he wants to erase the massive
increase in gas prices that has happened because of his policies.
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And when I'm curious, you know, watch him give that speech.
You know, I really do stagger to think that that
was actually written into his remarks. But it might have been.
I think it's a very good chance it was. So
it was so concise and coherent. You gotta think it
was up on the teleprompter. He usually when he ad libs,
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is is more incoherent than that? That was remarkable, remarkably coherent.
It was just a flat outlie. You talk about fact checking,
and I laughed because you just mentioned how does this
not get fact check? Something so blatant that he and
again his exact quotes, the most common price of gas
in America is three thirty nine, down from over five
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hours when I took off this. There's not a fact
checker in the world that cannot figure out that was wrong.
You just go back and look at the average gas
price in the day was inaugurated, and it's very clear
that it wasn't over five dollars a gallon. Yet, Senator
you went on the view and you challenged Whoopi Goldberg
and others when they acted like Republicans are the ones
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that are trying to destroy America and domestic terrorists and
everybody that is a conservative is the equivalent of a
domestic terrorists or al qaider isis With January six and
you you basically brought up the point that Antifa had
burnt US cities for a year and Newsweek has now
come out fact checking you saying that your claim that
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Antifa burnt US cities for a year is a flat
out foss which again, if you live in America, you
know that Antifa was going around and attacking police officers
and burning down churches and buildings and businesses. Well, I
will say this, this quote unquote fact check is is
self parroting, and and Twitter and the Internet has roasted
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Newsweek pretty mercilessly for it. Um look on the View,
which we talked about before, was amazing fund going on
with with hosts who every day spread partisan propaganda. Whoopee
claimed that that it's only your party that engages in violence.
Our party doesn't do that, and I had to laugh.
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I said, did you miss an entire year of Antifa
riots with with with cities burning all over the country.
So here was Newsweek's fact check. What they said as well,
Yes there were riots, and yes there were cities that burned,
but many of the riots didn't last the entire year,
although they then say, well many of them did, but
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not all of them. Not all of the riots lasted
the entire year, and not all of the riots burned
the city. Sometimes they burned the city, sometimes they didn't
burn the city. And then they said, and by the way,
Antifa doesn't exist. That that's their end of their fact
check is they didn't all last more than a year,
not every one of them burn the cities, and there's
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no such thing as Antifa. And every word of that
fact check is a lie. It is a deliberate lie.
Yes they did, and it was reminiscent. You know, you
and I both remember when when CNN had a reporter
standing in front of a building that is raging with
fire and the chiron underneath. The reporters says, fiery but
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mostly peaceful protests. Yeah, you know, they come and burn,
burn everything down around you, but it's mostly peaceful while
you're while they're burning it down. Like That's what this
Newsweek fact check was about. And it's not complicated. Well,
and I think fact checker is a partisan warrior. Well
that's what they do. And I think they just went
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the headline right. Oh well, no, no, Ted Cruz lied
on the view. I saw a fact check about that.
No one reads down, no one goes back and looks
at it. It's just a it's a way I think
for the lapt to say no, no, Ted Cruz lied.
I know he did because a fact checker told me
he didn't. I saw the headline where they claim and
he lied, So therefore he's a liar. That is exactly
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the game. I think the quote unquote fact checkers are
today's version of yellow journalism. They deliberately lie, and they
have all sorts of tricks they play. One of the
tricks is is the editorial selection. What it is they
choose to fact check. It's it's it's why I said
this Joe Biden's statement. I don't know if they'll check
it or not, but every one of them should. It's
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it's it is a direct falsehood by the President of
the United States on the number one issue in the
polls nationally for an election less than two weeks away.
We'll see if they actually choose to fact check it.
So what they choose to fact check is one of
the ways they skew it. But they leave that left
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wing opinion as a fact. And the irony. Actually, we've
had some fun with them Online Newsweek has actually written
multiple stories in the past about Antifa. So their final
kind of killer reason why what I said wasn't true
is they say Antifa doesn't exist, and I responded with
multiple Newsweek stories about Antifa, Antifa seals plotting violence, meeting
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and like like from their own pages. But truth doesn't
matter because they're not even editorialists. They are liars. It's
what they do, and they try to package it up
as claiming it's some sort of fact center. One thing
that I know that you've really focused on, especially if
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Republicans get back control of the Senate, is reigning in
big tech, and we had some big news that happen.
Not only did Elon Musk buy Twitter, but Elon Musk
is starting to fire people at Twitter. The partisan hacks
are there trying to bring back genuine and authentic free speech.
I want to talk about that in just a moment.
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The Elon Musk has come in and fired four top
executives at Twitter, including the CEO, the same CEO that
brought in with the the the you know, the firing
and there, I should say, the fact checking and the
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silencing and the closing down of accounts. Like the President
of the United States of America at the time, Donald Trump,
many other conservatives, he has now come in and said
I'm done with you guys. You're all fired. He didn't
waste any time firing the coming's top executives. I think
this is a huge step for freedom of speech with
big tech, so Ben, without exaggeration, I think this is
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the single most important element for free speech in decades.
As you know, as we've talked about for a long time,
I think big tech is the biggest threat to free speech.
Big tech is also the biggest threat to free and
fair elections. And big tech every year has been getting
more and more brazen, more and more open about using
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their monopoly power to try to silence conservatives, to try
to silence views they don't like, to try to silence
even some modicum of sanity, to try to silence someone
saying there is such a thing as boys and girls.
That's a view that they have decided is is hateful
to their woke sensibilities, and so you're not allowed to
say it. And as you noted, they've gone so far
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as to ban the President of the United States, Donald Trump,
from using their platform and speaking because they've determined they
don't like what he has to say. They also ban
all sorts of conservatives places like the Babylon Bee, which
I think does some of the best humor and satire.
And when Elon Musk walked into the headquarters, so the
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video he put out, it's actually quite bizarre. He walks
in the front door of the Twitter headquarters carrying a
porcelain sink. And I'll say, number one, the way he's walking,
I don't know if you've seen the gift of of Connor,
like stutting down the hallway. I gotta say Elon had
a strut very much like that. But he's carrying a big,
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heavy porcelain's sake. And I was like, you look at
the image. You're kind of scratching your head like he's
gonna throw the sink at him, Like what what is that?
And I guess what he tweeted out is you know
that he was there, he said, let that sink in.
So it was kind of a giant pun which was
a little odd. But then he shows up and fires
the CEO, and fires the CFO, and fires the Chief
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Legal and Policy Officer, and fires the chief operating officer,
all within minutes of walking in the door. That is
so incredibly important, and listen, I am. Elon has stated
that he wants Twitter to be a town hall for
democracy where people can express their views, and if their
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views are wrong, other people can disagree and you can
actually have free speech and the remedy for bad speeches
more speech, not censorship. I assume it is going to
take some time to turn the ship of Twitter, but
I got to say fire in the top executives certainly
gets the attention of every employee at that company, and
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I hope sends a real signal that Twitter is out
of the business of censorship. He's obviously going to have
to bring in new people who are committed to making
Twitter an oasis of free speech and that I'm really
hopeful that happens. I'm glad that it happened before election day.
I think that we've seen big tech is particularly egregious
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when elections are approaching. Both Twitter and Facebook were shameless
in censoring and silencing the Hunter Biden story, which was
true and unequivocal to Hunter Biden laptop. And yet they
shut down The New York Post for daring to report
on stories that are unfavorable to Joe Biden before at election.
This is a big deal. Let me let me pull
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back the curtain a little bit. This is one of
the most fun things about being on the bus tour
with you and last night at dinner, and this is
one of those questions that we probably would have would
have been said to the table, And I'm going to
ask it to you because I think this is one
of those moments where if you were sitting with you
on Musk and he just fired these people. You've dealt
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with Twitter from a from the standpoint of being in Congress,
You've you've seen how harmful the attacks on conservatives and
silencing of viewpoints has been on the country. What advice
would you give him? Would you say, hey, go into
your company and let people know about algorithm changes, in
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shadow banning and the policies that they had internally towards conservatives.
Would you open the books and essence and say, show
everybody what you just inherited so they know how bad
it was. Absolutely. I think that's one of the most
important things he can do, is institute transparency. And so
I've been hammering big tech for years trying to get
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them to answer simple questions like questions. I've asked Twitter,
I've asked Facebook, I've asked Google, I've asked YouTube. In
the twenty sixteen elections, how many posts from Republican candidates
for office? Did you suppress or throttle how many posts
from Democrat candidates for office? In twenty eighteen, same questions
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in twenty twenty, same questions in twenty twenty two, same questions. Consistently,
Big Tech refuses to answer that question. They give answers
that are essentially go jump in a lake. During the
all four years of the Trump administration, I tried to
get DOJ to use subpoenas to get answers to those questions. Unfortunately,
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the Department of Justice couldn't get that done that they
were not able to execute it effectively. They should have.
I think one of the first steps Elon should do
is hire someone credible to engage in a careful audit
and commit to make the results of that audit public.
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And it's not just blocking, because blocking is one thing,
but but shadow banning is even more insidious because it's invisible.
So it's one thing. Ben. If if you put out
a post and they just say, okay, Ben, you're off Twitter.
We've decided we don't like what Ben Ferguson says. You're silenced,
that's a little clottish and obvious. The second level that
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is more pernicious, is they just say, Okay, Ben your tweets,
we're going to allow one one thousandth of your followers
to see any given tweet and you have no idea
if that's the case. I have no idea if that's
the case. I think answering those questions providing thorough transparency
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and look a good place for Elon to start is
I've submitted written questions. In fact, when Mark Zuckerberg testified
before the Senate, I submitted I think six hundred and
thirty six questions to Facebook for them to answer. Unfortunately,
they had lawyers right answers that were just go jump
in a lake, and we did not have the legal
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force of a subpoena to hold them to account for
refusing to answer. Elon should answer those questions, and that
will have an impact not just on Twitter, but it
will have an impact on Facebook, an impact on Google,
an impact on YouTube. This is a big deal for
the whole world, a big tech, not just Twitter. Because
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the more Elon provides transparency, the more pressure there will
be on the other players to do the same. I
want to also be clear because there's so many people
that are going to misconstrue when we say we want
there to be thickly transparency. We're not asking for Elon
or expecting for Elon Musk. I think you would agree
with me to come in and all of a sudden silence, liberals.
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We're just asking for genuine, authentic free speech to happen
for everyone. Absolutely. Yes. You know. A couple of years
ago I met with the CEO of YouTube who came
by my office and at the time, YouTube was engaged
in battle with Stephen Crowder, a friend of yours, friend
of mine who has a great show. I've been on
his show a bunch of times. And Crowder had was
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having a battle with a left wing journalist and they
were look crowd as a comedian. So he was tossing
some crass insults at the journalists and the journalist was
insulting him back, and they were having a Twitter fight.
Twitter made a determination to quote demonetize Stephen Crowder, and
I'm sorry not Twitter, YouTube and the and the YouTube
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ceo was in my office and she explained to me.
She said, well, we determined that crowd or did not
do anything that violated our policies. Okay, that's a big deal. Okay,
no violation of policies, whatever those policies are, and however
arbitrary they are. But they said, she said, we decided
to demonetize him anyway. But she said, look, you should
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be really happy because we didn't block him all together.
We allowed to put up his show. He's just not
allowed to earn any revenue on it. And I just
started laughing at her as she sat on the couch
in my office. I said, number one, you know, talk
about an Orwellian word. We just demonetized him. I said,
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how would YouTube like it if someone just demonetized you.
You just can't earn any revenue. That's just a simple thing.
It's not like you actually need to earn revenue to
have a business and run a business and pay employees.
I mean, we're just magically disappear your money. And I said,
let me be clear about something, and she said, look,
people on the left were pushing us to block him
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all together, and aren't you proud of us? We said no,
and I said, listen, the pressure to silence is only
coming from one direction. It's the Bernie Sanders, it's the
Joe Biden's, It's the aocs that are saying silence conservatives
because we don't want anyone to hear what they say.
I said, I'm not asking you to silence them. In fact,
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to be honest, I want as many people as possible
to hear what they're saying because I think it makes
no sense. I think it's idiotic. And the more people
hear what they're saying, particularly if they can hear substance
and facts in response, the more people will realize this.
When it comes to censorship, it is a one way ratchet.
So absolutely I do not want and I don't believe
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Elon will censor voices on the left. I think the
marketplace of ideas is how we should resolve who's right
and who's wrong. Yeah, it's it's going to be very interesting,
as you said, to see what happens with Twitter, how
much they expose how business practices were really being done
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behind closed doors, and then that will clearly show us.
I think a lot about these other companies and how
they were doing the exact same thing. I want to
move to another issue that I think now is a
very important one. Senor your number. I want I want
everybody to know what do you see with the Senate
right now, especially after the Fetterman debate with doctor Oz
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and you just left Georgia and you did at a
rally in Georgia for herschel Walker there. What do you
think the Senate could look like if Republicans show up
on election Day? Well, I think the delta, the range
for the Senate is anywhere between. In a horrible, cataclysmic outcome,
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we could see as few as forty eight Republicans. In
an incredible outcome, we could see as many as maybe
fifty six or fifty seven Republicans. And personally, what I
believe is likely is fifty three fifty four. I think
that is the most likely outcome. I think the last
forty eight hours those numbers have gone up. Number one.
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The Fetterman debate was the biggest train wreck of a
debate perhaps ever. All of us suspected that Fetterman still
had significant, meaningful impairment. I don't think anyone was prepared
for the level of impairment he demonstrated. Watching that was
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affirmatively painful. I gotta say, I've seen a lot of
political debates. I've never seen anyone started debate by saying
good night like that just is random. The answer Fetterman
gave on fracking was you watch it and you actually
want to like take him to a hospital bed and
just have him lie down. And I think that debate
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significantly changed the calculus in that race and made it
much more likely that doctor Oz wins in November. Across
the country today, I spent all day campaigning in Georgia
with Herschel Walker. We did we did rallies all over
the state, huge rallies, packed rallies. The energy is fantastic. Walker,
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I think is surging. I think Herschel is likely to
win that race. And I think across the country, the
majority the momentum is with us, and so all of
these races are getting more favorable for Republicans and if
that continues, our likely outcome is looking better and better.
But that only happens if we make sure we show up.
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And one of the things that's encouraging early vote numbers.
Right now, we're seeing Republicans show up in significant numbers.
We're seeing that in Georgia, we're seeing that in Texas,
we're seeing that elsewhere. That's a good sign. Democrats are demoralized,
a spirited, you know, they're guys have mucked it all up,
and so they're not excited about coming to vote, and
Republicans are really pissed and are showing up to vote.
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We need to make sure we keep doing that. And
if that happens, I think we will end up with
a significant majority in both houses. You know. I think
Fetterman in that debate the other night is going to
actually have an impact possibly nationwide in other races. And
the reason why I say that is I think there's
so many people that witness that and they sit there
and they go if the Democratic Party will do this
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to a guy like Fetterman and just kind of prop
them up because they're so desperate to keep a seat
instead of actually take care of someone and say, look,
you need you know, you need medical attention, you need
you know, there's so many things you can do with
rehab and help for you to have a better, you know,
life than what it is right now that we're witnessing
on TV. I think there's a lot of people to think, Wow,
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this party in essence is so liss They will prop
up anybody. Forget Joe Biden walking around can't get off
a stage. It's almost a form of abuse what they're
doing to Fetterman in his campaign. I cannot believe did
somebody that doesn't step in on his behalf, that cares
about him and say, hey, stop taking advantage of him
just so you guys can win a seat. Well, and
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as you noted, the connection with Joe Biden is significant
because it's reinforcing a message. People are seeing Joe Biden
every day with serious diminished metal capacity, and they know
that the Democrats are willing to lie about it, and
they know that the media is willing to lie about it.
And with Fetterman, remember he did an interview with an
NBC host who was a junior reporter, and she commented
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afterwards how he really had trouble understanding their conversation, and
the big established names and mainstream journalism lost their mind
and were denouncing this this young reporter for daring to
report the actual facts of what she saw, that he
had trouble understand her questions and he had trouble articulating
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an answer. Well, everyone who watched the debate, millions, tens
of millions of people saw that in the debate, and
I think there's a really powerful realization some people are
having that. Wait a second, all of these media folks
who told me he's just fine. They were lying to me,
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And every day the media does more to damage their credibility.
Because when you are a liar day in and day out,
and the lies always benefit the party you want to win,
at some point even people not paying that close of
attention start to notice the pattern. Well and now and
now you see the same media that was saying he's
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fine now attacking conservatives of GOP. Joe Behar in The
View said this today about basically, how dare you bring
up his impairment? Listen, a's about showing Federman stumbling on
things because of the stroke. Kind of a doctor is
behind that. Aren't you supposed to do no harm? It's
so unempathetic to the guy, you know. And I just
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want to say that Oz is very slick. He's a
TV guy. Remember that there's another woman in Arizona, Carrie Lake,
also a TV woman, So they're very slick, you know.
And Fetterman's kind of like you know, with the stroke
and without the stroke, is not a slick, but he
has ideas and he has governed. I've never heard a
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worst sales pitch senator from somebody. I mean, not only
is she criticizing people to do TV while she's on
TV doing what she does on TV. But she's literally
saying that you're unpatriotic and you're unempathetic if you question
a man's cognitive ability to do a job, which is
a very serious job that is more than just pushing
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yes and no no in the Senate. You know how
complicated this job is. Well, it's not complicated what she's doing.
She is engaging as a partisan hack. She wants the
Democrat to win, no matter what. And and so it's
funny watching their talking points shift because their talking points
have now moved to to saying, well, you're not allowed
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to point out that he is serious cognitively disabled. That
it's discrimination to say it's not able to do his job.
You know, Fetterman's wife is out there attacking you know
any anyone who says this is this is this is
able ism? Well, I would like are elected officials to
be able like like there are. It is actually a
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job requirement to be able to understand the issues before you,
to hear evidence, to hear testimony, to read complicated bills,
to assess public policy, to assess national security, to assess
classified intel, to meet with constituents, to understand their concerns
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to advocate on their behalf. And if you can't engage
in a simple conversation and know what the hell is
going on, you are not able to do the job.
You know, it's a little bit like saying someone who's
paralyzed from the neck down. It's discrimination to say that
we're that they're not going to play him in the NBA. Look,
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I'm sorry if if, if someone has limitations, and and
but it is eminently relevant to the job. But I'll
say two other things you and I talked about before.
How I said that I thought it was a mistake
for the os campaign to focus as much as they
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did on Fetterman's serious mental impairment. And the reason I
thought it was a mistake is it was potentially curable.
In the debate, if he stood up and said three
coherent sentences, it suddenly makes one of the major attacks disappear.
And and to some extent, that happened with Trump and Biden,
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where in the twenty twenty campaign, the Trump campaign made
such an issue of Biden's diminished mental state that we
got to the debates and Biden did put out three
coherent sentences and a lot of people said, oh, okay,
he's fine. So I thought it was a strategic error
to focus on that. That being said, I had no
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idea that putting out three coherent sentences was beyond something
he was capable of doing. And you know, it's an
interesting conversation the dinner we reference that we had with
some great minds and a number of senior members of
my political team. One of them made the following points said,
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political consultants rarely win a campaign. The candidate has to
win a campaign, but a political consultant can lose a campaign.
And there is a very good possibility that Federns consultant,
whoever's running the campaign, lost that campaign by allowing him
to appear in that debate. It's it's remarkable. Presumably the
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campaign knows, they know he has this impairment, that he's
not able to get out three coherent sentences. They put
them up there anyway, and I think that is was
a stunning mistake. I'm surprised they didn't announce the morning
of the debate, Oh sorry, Fetterman has COVID. He's going
to be conveniently quarantined for the next two weeks. But
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you can see him the day after election day. And
we've talked previously on the pod about the Democrats strategy
of ducking debates. I think Fetterman's disastrous performance in this
debate will accelerate in the next cycle Democrat candidates saying
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I'm not going to debate debate because there's risk that
it could be bad. And if I don't do any debates,
the media will protect me and they'll be my messenger center.
I think this is exactly why there's so many voters
out there right now that are looking at these mid
terms as an issue of just flat out trusts. They
don't trust the media, they don't trust the Democrats. They
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look at you in the face and tell you that
there the economy is in great shape when it's not.
There's a montage of just some of the top lies
that we've heard from this administration, and I want people
to understand that if you go out there and you
talk to your family and you talk to your friends,
remind them that this Biden administration has been lying to
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you since day one, and these are just a few
of the highlights of this administration. You're not going to
get COVID if you have these vaccinations. Vaccinated people do
not carry the virus, don't get sick. Getting those shots
out for five to eleven year olds is going to
provide a lot of comfort to American families. Horses very
running over people being strapped. The horrific video of the
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CBP officers on horse on horses using brutal and inappropriate
measures against people. We have a secure border. The border
is in fact secure. The border is closed. The border
is secure, The border is secure, the border is closed.
We've been unequivocal in that on the issue of Afghanistan,
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and to that end we have seen a successful drawdown
of the embassy. I think it's irresponsible to say Americans
are stranded. They're not. This is Jim Crow on steroids
what they're doing in Georgia. This is all about keeping
working folks and ordinary folks. So I grew up with
from being able to vote. The reconciliation package would cost
zero dollars. The cost of these bills in terms value
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of the deficit is zero. Some have expressed publicly that
they're not comfortable with three point five even though zero
costs zero dollars, zero, zero, zero. This bill is fully
paid for, and we'll not raise taxes on anyone making
less than four hundred thousand dollars a year. Let me
say that again, be crystal clear, no one making less
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than four hundred thousand dollars you will pay a single
additional penny and tax for all these things that are
in the and the Build back Better plan. You listen
to these and the scary part of the center. We
have another two minutes of these lies that we put together,
but those are just some of the big ones. This election,
I truly think comes down to the issue of who
do you trust more to not lie to you? Who
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do you trust more to tell you the truth? You
listen to those lies. We have a secure border, you know,
that's a lie you've been talking about forever. That this
bill that you know, and we didn't even get to
the bill of the right, the we're going to make
sure the economy is all great. Right, we're gonna make
sure that there's no more inflation. Bill that they just passed.
And guess what it had nothing to do with It
had to do with all these green alternative energies, energy ideas.
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These are the lies they tell you. And I think
people are actually at the point now where they say enough, yeah,
look it has been so brazen and and there are
more that can be included, including one of the most astonishing.
They're like it was Republicans that wanted to shut down
schools and it was Democrats that wanted to open up schools,
which is like, at some level you have to sit
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back and be like, all right, holy crap, that that's
some chutzpah. Look like it just you know, you know,
it's like stranger things going into the upside down. I mean,
I mean they you know, Karine Jean Pierre standing at
the White House press podium and saying people are not
just walking across the border. It's not happening. There is
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a level, you know, Yeah, you actually have to ask
why is it that this administration feels so comfortable lying
on a daily basis on things that are obviously lies,
that are laughably demonstrably lies. And it is directly connected
to the corruption of the media. The two are intertwined.
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My new book This Week, Justice Corrupted, How the Left
is weaponized the legal system. A lot of what it
talks about, why is Obama and now Biden able to
turn the Department of Justice and the FBI and the
IRS and the CIA and the federal government into a
weapon to target their political enemies. One of the big,
big reasons is because they count on the corporate media
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to be their praetorian guard, to not question them, to
not report on it, to not acknowledge that it exists,
to do what Newsweek did with their idiotic fact check
on Antifa, to do what CNN and MSNBC do every day,
which is ignore the lies and even worse, sometimes report
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the lies as truth and be active participants in lying.
And the more that happens, the more people realize, Okay,
I get the game. You know, when when Donald Trump
first started referring to fake news to a lot of people,
it was jarring. What's interesting is it's not jarring anymore
that it has been so conclusively demonstrated that I think
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millions of people are realizing these people are liars, and
they're in the business of aiding and abetting liars who
are lying to us. And that means you got to
find alternative ways to find the truth. And that's that's
one of the values of something like this podcast. It is.
Senator I appreciate you getting on the tour. You fighting
for so many conservatives. You're out there if people want
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to see where you're going to be, Where you're going next.
Tcbus tour dot com, tcbustour dot com. You can come.
So many listeners, by the way of this podcast have
shown up on the road and I know that's meant
the world to you. So to all of you that
have showed up, thank you. Thank you for listening and
supporting the senator and all the candidates that he is supporting. Uh,
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stay in the game. Make sure you keep talking to
your family and your friends. Where are you guys going
next on the tour. Well, we're in Orlando right now.
We've got a rally tomorrow and Orlando with two congressional candidates,
Corey Mills and Scott As Scotty More. And then we're
headed to Michigan. We're headed to Utah. We're headed to
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Texas for the big blowout rally at the end of
the bus tour. And I got to say, we're seeing
packed houses. You know you were with us in Franklin,
Tennessee last night. We had thirteen fourteen hundred people come
out in a rally for Andy Ogules, who is a
conservative running is going to be elected. I believe to
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the House and be a strong conservative leader. We're seeing
that kind of enthusiasm the rallies today for herschel Walker,
huge crowds, and there's an energy and enthusiasm that I
think is just growing every day. It is no doubt
about it grabbed the new book Justice Corrupted, How the
Left weaponizes our legal system. Don't forget we're doing this
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see you in a few days, and then we'll see
the audience back here in a couple of days as well.
Welcome. It's Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
Nice to chat with you today. You're on the road.
You're now in Florida. We had maybe one of the
greatest dinners I think I've ever had last night with
some of the most brilliant minds around the table in
Nashville after the event in Franklin, and it was I
think you probably enjoyed that dinner as much as I did,
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because you had Clay Travis, Michael Knows, Ben Shapiro. I
was an honor to be there. You were there and
many other brilliant minds talking about some of the most
fun topics and politics, and they were all revolving around
what we're all seeing change very quickly, and that is
there's a very good chance that not only are we
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gonna grab the House, but we could grab the Senate
and have some really good numbers there as well. Yeah,
that's right. We had an amazing dinner that went until
late in the evening, and I would say the consensus
of pretty much everyone around the table is that the
momentum is moving significantly in the right direction, and I'm
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more optimistic. I think more and more observers are getting
really optimistic that Republicans' chances for taking the Senate look
quite good, and we could easily end up with not
just a majority in the House, but a large majority
in the House, and that that's good news. One of
the reasons why I think this is happening, Center, is
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that I think a lot of the American people, especially
while they're suffering, are tired of being lied to. The
President came out today with another ridiculous lie. Here's what
he said today. The most common price of gas in
America is three dollars and thirty nine cents, down from
over five dollars when I took office. We need to
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keep making that progress by having energy companies bring down
the cost of a gallon of gas that reflects the
cost they're pain for a barrel of oil. Center, you
and I both know that when he became president United
States of America, the average price of gas was two
thirty nine, meaning fifty percent. We're playing less than that.
On the day that he became president, I paid under
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two dollars a gallon where I was and because I
remember looking wanting to see how quick it was going
to go up. This is just a lie that every
American knows is not true. Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
It is a blatant lie. It's obvious, and it has
to be deliberate. Look, even in Joe Biden's severely diminished state,
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he knows he's lying. Gas was not five dollars a
gallon when he became president. It was two dollars and
thirty nine cents a gallon. That this is also an
interesting test for every some single fake news corporate media
outlet it pretends to do fact checking, if all of
them do not immediately fact check this and call it
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out as a It's not kind of a little bit
a lie. It's not slightly a lie. He suggested. He
didn't suggest. He said that gas was more than twice
as much as it was when he came in, and
he did that because he wants to erase the massive
increase in gas prices that has happened because of his policies.
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And when I'm curious, you know, watch him give that speech.
You know, I really do stagger to think that that
was actually written into his remarks. But it might have been.
I think it's a very good chance it was. So
it was so concise and coherent. You gotta think it
was up on the teleprompter. He usually when he ad libs,
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is is more incoherent than that? That was remarkable, remarkably coherent.
It was just a flat outlie. You talk about fact checking,
and I laughed because you just mentioned how does this
not get fact check? Something so blatant that he and
again his exact quotes, the most common price of gas
in America is three thirty nine, down from over five
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hours when I took off this. There's not a fact
checker in the world that cannot figure out that was wrong.
You just go back and look at the average gas
price in the day was inaugurated, and it's very clear
that it wasn't over five dollars a gallon. Yet, Senator
you went on the view and you challenged Whoopi Goldberg
and others when they acted like Republicans are the ones
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that are trying to destroy America and domestic terrorists and
everybody that is a conservative is the equivalent of a
domestic terrorists or al qaider isis With January six and
you you basically brought up the point that Antifa had
burnt US cities for a year and Newsweek has now
come out fact checking you saying that your claim that
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Antifa burnt US cities for a year is a flat
out foss which again, if you live in America, you
know that Antifa was going around and attacking police officers
and burning down churches and buildings and businesses. Well, I
will say this, this quote unquote fact check is is
self parroting, and and Twitter and the Internet has roasted
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Newsweek pretty mercilessly for it. Um look on the View,
which we talked about before, was amazing fund going on
with with hosts who every day spread partisan propaganda. Whoopee
claimed that that it's only your party that engages in violence.
Our party doesn't do that, and I had to laugh.
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I said, did you miss an entire year of Antifa
riots with with with cities burning all over the country.
So here was Newsweek's fact check. What they said as well,
Yes there were riots, and yes there were cities that burned,
but many of the riots didn't last the entire year,
although they then say, well many of them did, but
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not all of them. Not all of the riots lasted
the entire year, and not all of the riots burned
the city. Sometimes they burned the city, sometimes they didn't
burn the city. And then they said, and by the way,
Antifa doesn't exist. That that's their end of their fact
check is they didn't all last more than a year,
not every one of them burn the cities, and there's
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no such thing as Antifa. And every word of that
fact check is a lie. It is a deliberate lie.
Yes they did, and it was reminiscent. You know, you
and I both remember when when CNN had a reporter
standing in front of a building that is raging with
fire and the chiron underneath. The reporters says, fiery but
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mostly peaceful protests. Yeah, you know, they come and burn,
burn everything down around you, but it's mostly peaceful while
you're while they're burning it down. Like That's what this
Newsweek fact check was about. And it's not complicated. Well,
and I think fact checker is a partisan warrior. Well
that's what they do. And I think they just went
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the headline right. Oh well, no, no, Ted Cruz lied
on the view. I saw a fact check about that.
No one reads down, no one goes back and looks
at it. It's just a it's a way I think
for the lapt to say no, no, Ted Cruz lied.
I know he did because a fact checker told me
he didn't. I saw the headline where they claim and
he lied, So therefore he's a liar. That is exactly
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the game. I think the quote unquote fact checkers are
today's version of yellow journalism. They deliberately lie, and they
have all sorts of tricks they play. One of the
tricks is is the editorial selection. What it is they
choose to fact check. It's it's it's why I said
this Joe Biden's statement. I don't know if they'll check
it or not, but every one of them should. It's
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it's it is a direct falsehood by the President of
the United States on the number one issue in the
polls nationally for an election less than two weeks away.
We'll see if they actually choose to fact check it.
So what they choose to fact check is one of
the ways they skew it. But they leave that left
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wing opinion as a fact. And the irony. Actually, we've
had some fun with them Online Newsweek has actually written
multiple stories in the past about Antifa. So their final
kind of killer reason why what I said wasn't true
is they say Antifa doesn't exist, and I responded with
multiple Newsweek stories about Antifa, Antifa seals plotting violence, meeting
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and like like from their own pages. But truth doesn't
matter because they're not even editorialists. They are liars. It's
what they do, and they try to package it up
as claiming it's some sort of fact center. One thing
that I know that you've really focused on, especially if
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Republicans get back control of the Senate, is reigning in
big tech, and we had some big news that happen.
Not only did Elon Musk buy Twitter, but Elon Musk
is starting to fire people at Twitter. The partisan hacks
are there trying to bring back genuine and authentic free speech.
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The Elon Musk has come in and fired four top
executives at Twitter, including the CEO, the same CEO that
brought in with the the the you know, the firing
and there, I should say, the fact checking and the
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silencing and the closing down of accounts. Like the President
of the United States of America at the time, Donald Trump,
many other conservatives, he has now come in and said
I'm done with you guys. You're all fired. He didn't
waste any time firing the coming's top executives. I think
this is a huge step for freedom of speech with
big tech, so Ben, without exaggeration, I think this is
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the single most important element for free speech in decades.
As you know, as we've talked about for a long time,
I think big tech is the biggest threat to free speech.
Big tech is also the biggest threat to free and
fair elections. And big tech every year has been getting
more and more brazen, more and more open about using
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their monopoly power to try to silence conservatives, to try
to silence views they don't like, to try to silence
even some modicum of sanity, to try to silence someone
saying there is such a thing as boys and girls.
That's a view that they have decided is is hateful
to their woke sensibilities, and so you're not allowed to
say it. And as you noted, they've gone so far
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as to ban the President of the United States, Donald Trump,
from using their platform and speaking because they've determined they
don't like what he has to say. They also ban
all sorts of conservatives places like the Babylon Bee, which
I think does some of the best humor and satire.
And when Elon Musk walked into the headquarters, so the
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video he put out, it's actually quite bizarre. He walks
in the front door of the Twitter headquarters carrying a
porcelain sink. And I'll say, number one, the way he's walking,
I don't know if you've seen the gift of of Connor,
like stutting down the hallway. I gotta say Elon had
a strut very much like that. But he's carrying a big,
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heavy porcelain's sake. And I was like, you look at
the image. You're kind of scratching your head like he's
gonna throw the sink at him, Like what what is that?
And I guess what he tweeted out is you know
that he was there, he said, let that sink in.
So it was kind of a giant pun which was
a little odd. But then he shows up and fires
the CEO, and fires the CFO, and fires the Chief
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Legal and Policy Officer, and fires the chief operating officer,
all within minutes of walking in the door. That is
so incredibly important, and listen, I am. Elon has stated
that he wants Twitter to be a town hall for
democracy where people can express their views, and if their
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views are wrong, other people can disagree and you can
actually have free speech and the remedy for bad speeches
more speech, not censorship. I assume it is going to
take some time to turn the ship of Twitter, but
I got to say fire in the top executives certainly
gets the attention of every employee at that company, and
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I hope sends a real signal that Twitter is out
of the business of censorship. He's obviously going to have
to bring in new people who are committed to making
Twitter an oasis of free speech and that I'm really
hopeful that happens. I'm glad that it happened before election day.
I think that we've seen big tech is particularly egregious
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when elections are approaching. Both Twitter and Facebook were shameless
in censoring and silencing the Hunter Biden story, which was
true and unequivocal to Hunter Biden laptop. And yet they
shut down The New York Post for daring to report
on stories that are unfavorable to Joe Biden before at election.
This is a big deal. Let me let me pull
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back the curtain a little bit. This is one of
the most fun things about being on the bus tour
with you and last night at dinner, and this is
one of those questions that we probably would have would
have been said to the table, And I'm going to
ask it to you because I think this is one
of those moments where if you were sitting with you
on Musk and he just fired these people. You've dealt
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with Twitter from a from the standpoint of being in Congress,
You've you've seen how harmful the attacks on conservatives and
silencing of viewpoints has been on the country. What advice
would you give him? Would you say, hey, go into
your company and let people know about algorithm changes, in
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shadow banning and the policies that they had internally towards conservatives.
Would you open the books and essence and say, show
everybody what you just inherited so they know how bad
it was. Absolutely. I think that's one of the most
important things he can do, is institute transparency. And so
I've been hammering big tech for years trying to get
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them to answer simple questions like questions. I've asked Twitter,
I've asked Facebook, I've asked Google, I've asked YouTube. In
the twenty sixteen elections, how many posts from Republican candidates
for office? Did you suppress or throttle how many posts
from Democrat candidates for office? In twenty eighteen, same questions
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in twenty twenty, same questions in twenty twenty two, same questions. Consistently,
Big Tech refuses to answer that question. They give answers
that are essentially go jump in a lake. During the
all four years of the Trump administration, I tried to
get DOJ to use subpoenas to get answers to those questions. Unfortunately,
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the Department of Justice couldn't get that done that they
were not able to execute it effectively. They should have.
I think one of the first steps Elon should do
is hire someone credible to engage in a careful audit
and commit to make the results of that audit public.
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And it's not just blocking, because blocking is one thing,
but but shadow banning is even more insidious because it's invisible.
So it's one thing. Ben. If if you put out
a post and they just say, okay, Ben, you're off Twitter.
We've decided we don't like what Ben Ferguson says. You're silenced,
that's a little clottish and obvious. The second level that
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is more pernicious, is they just say, Okay, Ben your tweets,
we're going to allow one one thousandth of your followers
to see any given tweet and you have no idea
if that's the case. I have no idea if that's
the case. I think answering those questions providing thorough transparency
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and look a good place for Elon to start is
I've submitted written questions. In fact, when Mark Zuckerberg testified
before the Senate, I submitted I think six hundred and
thirty six questions to Facebook for them to answer. Unfortunately,
they had lawyers right answers that were just go jump
in a lake, and we did not have the legal
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force of a subpoena to hold them to account for
refusing to answer. Elon should answer those questions, and that
will have an impact not just on Twitter, but it
will have an impact on Facebook, an impact on Google,
an impact on YouTube. This is a big deal for
the whole world, a big tech, not just Twitter. Because
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the more Elon provides transparency, the more pressure there will
be on the other players to do the same. I
want to also be clear because there's so many people
that are going to misconstrue when we say we want
there to be thickly transparency. We're not asking for Elon
or expecting for Elon Musk. I think you would agree
with me to come in and all of a sudden silence, liberals.
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We're just asking for genuine, authentic free speech to happen
for everyone. Absolutely. Yes. You know. A couple of years
ago I met with the CEO of YouTube who came
by my office and at the time, YouTube was engaged
in battle with Stephen Crowder, a friend of yours, friend
of mine who has a great show. I've been on
his show a bunch of times. And Crowder had was
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having a battle with a left wing journalist and they
were look crowd as a comedian. So he was tossing
some crass insults at the journalists and the journalist was
insulting him back, and they were having a Twitter fight.
Twitter made a determination to quote demonetize Stephen Crowder, and
I'm sorry not Twitter, YouTube and the and the YouTube
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ceo was in my office and she explained to me.
She said, well, we determined that crowd or did not
do anything that violated our policies. Okay, that's a big deal. Okay,
no violation of policies, whatever those policies are, and however
arbitrary they are. But they said, she said, we decided
to demonetize him anyway. But she said, look, you should
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be really happy because we didn't block him all together.
We allowed to put up his show. He's just not
allowed to earn any revenue on it. And I just
started laughing at her as she sat on the couch
in my office. I said, number one, you know, talk
about an Orwellian word. We just demonetized him. I said,
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how would YouTube like it if someone just demonetized you.
You just can't earn any revenue. That's just a simple thing.
It's not like you actually need to earn revenue to
have a business and run a business and pay employees.
I mean, we're just magically disappear your money. And I said,
let me be clear about something, and she said, look,
people on the left were pushing us to block him
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all together, and aren't you proud of us? We said no,
and I said, listen, the pressure to silence is only
coming from one direction. It's the Bernie Sanders, it's the
Joe Biden's, It's the aocs that are saying silence conservatives
because we don't want anyone to hear what they say.
I said, I'm not asking you to silence them. In fact,
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to be honest, I want as many people as possible
to hear what they're saying because I think it makes
no sense. I think it's idiotic. And the more people
hear what they're saying, particularly if they can hear substance
and facts in response, the more people will realize this.
When it comes to censorship, it is a one way ratchet.
So absolutely I do not want and I don't believe
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Elon will censor voices on the left. I think the
marketplace of ideas is how we should resolve who's right
and who's wrong. Yeah, it's it's going to be very interesting,
as you said, to see what happens with Twitter, how
much they expose how business practices were really being done
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behind closed doors, and then that will clearly show us.
I think a lot about these other companies and how
they were doing the exact same thing. I want to
move to another issue that I think now is a
very important one. Senor your number. I want I want
everybody to know what do you see with the Senate
right now, especially after the Fetterman debate with doctor Oz
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and you just left Georgia and you did at a
rally in Georgia for herschel Walker there. What do you
think the Senate could look like if Republicans show up
on election Day? Well, I think the delta, the range
for the Senate is anywhere between. In a horrible, cataclysmic outcome,
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we could see as few as forty eight Republicans. In
an incredible outcome, we could see as many as maybe
fifty six or fifty seven Republicans. And personally, what I
believe is likely is fifty three fifty four. I think
that is the most likely outcome. I think the last
forty eight hours those numbers have gone up. Number one.
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The Fetterman debate was the biggest train wreck of a
debate perhaps ever. All of us suspected that Fetterman still
had significant, meaningful impairment. I don't think anyone was prepared
for the level of impairment he demonstrated. Watching that was
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affirmatively painful. I gotta say, I've seen a lot of
political debates. I've never seen anyone started debate by saying
good night like that just is random. The answer Fetterman
gave on fracking was you watch it and you actually
want to like take him to a hospital bed and
just have him lie down. And I think that debate
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significantly changed the calculus in that race and made it
much more likely that doctor Oz wins in November. Across
the country today, I spent all day campaigning in Georgia
with Herschel Walker. We did we did rallies all over
the state, huge rallies, packed rallies. The energy is fantastic. Walker,
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I think is surging. I think Herschel is likely to
win that race. And I think across the country, the
majority the momentum is with us, and so all of
these races are getting more favorable for Republicans and if
that continues, our likely outcome is looking better and better.
But that only happens if we make sure we show up.
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And one of the things that's encouraging early vote numbers.
Right now, we're seeing Republicans show up in significant numbers.
We're seeing that in Georgia, we're seeing that in Texas,
we're seeing that elsewhere. That's a good sign. Democrats are demoralized,
a spirited, you know, they're guys have mucked it all up,
and so they're not excited about coming to vote, and
Republicans are really pissed and are showing up to vote.
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We need to make sure we keep doing that. And
if that happens, I think we will end up with
a significant majority in both houses. You know. I think
Fetterman in that debate the other night is going to
actually have an impact possibly nationwide in other races. And
the reason why I say that is I think there's
so many people that witness that and they sit there
and they go if the Democratic Party will do this
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to a guy like Fetterman and just kind of prop
them up because they're so desperate to keep a seat
instead of actually take care of someone and say, look,
you need you know, you need medical attention, you need
you know, there's so many things you can do with
rehab and help for you to have a better, you know,
life than what it is right now that we're witnessing
on TV. I think there's a lot of people to think, Wow,
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this party in essence is so liss They will prop
up anybody. Forget Joe Biden walking around can't get off
a stage. It's almost a form of abuse what they're
doing to Fetterman in his campaign. I cannot believe did
somebody that doesn't step in on his behalf, that cares
about him and say, hey, stop taking advantage of him
just so you guys can win a seat. Well, and
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as you noted, the connection with Joe Biden is significant
because it's reinforcing a message. People are seeing Joe Biden
every day with serious diminished metal capacity, and they know
that the Democrats are willing to lie about it, and
they know that the media is willing to lie about it.
And with Fetterman, remember he did an interview with an
NBC host who was a junior reporter, and she commented
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afterwards how he really had trouble understanding their conversation, and
the big established names and mainstream journalism lost their mind
and were denouncing this this young reporter for daring to
report the actual facts of what she saw, that he
had trouble understand her questions and he had trouble articulating
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an answer. Well, everyone who watched the debate, millions, tens
of millions of people saw that in the debate, and
I think there's a really powerful realization some people are
having that. Wait a second, all of these media folks
who told me he's just fine. They were lying to me,
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And every day the media does more to damage their credibility.
Because when you are a liar day in and day out,
and the lies always benefit the party you want to win,
at some point even people not paying that close of
attention start to notice the pattern. Well and now and
now you see the same media that was saying he's
(26:44):
fine now attacking conservatives of GOP. Joe Behar in The
View said this today about basically, how dare you bring
up his impairment? Listen, a's about showing Federman stumbling on
things because of the stroke. Kind of a doctor is
behind that. Aren't you supposed to do no harm? It's
so unempathetic to the guy, you know. And I just
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want to say that Oz is very slick. He's a
TV guy. Remember that there's another woman in Arizona, Carrie Lake,
also a TV woman, So they're very slick, you know.
And Fetterman's kind of like you know, with the stroke
and without the stroke, is not a slick, but he
has ideas and he has governed. I've never heard a
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worst sales pitch senator from somebody. I mean, not only
is she criticizing people to do TV while she's on
TV doing what she does on TV. But she's literally
saying that you're unpatriotic and you're unempathetic if you question
a man's cognitive ability to do a job, which is
a very serious job that is more than just pushing
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yes and no no in the Senate. You know how
complicated this job is. Well, it's not complicated what she's doing.
She is engaging as a partisan hack. She wants the
Democrat to win, no matter what. And and so it's
funny watching their talking points shift because their talking points
have now moved to to saying, well, you're not allowed
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to point out that he is serious cognitively disabled. That
it's discrimination to say it's not able to do his job.
You know, Fetterman's wife is out there attacking you know
any anyone who says this is this is this is
able ism? Well, I would like are elected officials to
be able like like there are. It is actually a
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job requirement to be able to understand the issues before you,
to hear evidence, to hear testimony, to read complicated bills,
to assess public policy, to assess national security, to assess
classified intel, to meet with constituents, to understand their concerns
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to advocate on their behalf. And if you can't engage
in a simple conversation and know what the hell is
going on, you are not able to do the job.
You know, it's a little bit like saying someone who's
paralyzed from the neck down. It's discrimination to say that
we're that they're not going to play him in the NBA. Look,
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I'm sorry if if, if someone has limitations, and and
but it is eminently relevant to the job. But I'll
say two other things you and I talked about before.
How I said that I thought it was a mistake
for the os campaign to focus as much as they
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did on Fetterman's serious mental impairment. And the reason I
thought it was a mistake is it was potentially curable.
In the debate, if he stood up and said three
coherent sentences, it suddenly makes one of the major attacks disappear.
And and to some extent, that happened with Trump and Biden,
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where in the twenty twenty campaign, the Trump campaign made
such an issue of Biden's diminished mental state that we
got to the debates and Biden did put out three
coherent sentences and a lot of people said, oh, okay,
he's fine. So I thought it was a strategic error
to focus on that. That being said, I had no
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idea that putting out three coherent sentences was beyond something
he was capable of doing. And you know, it's an
interesting conversation the dinner we reference that we had with
some great minds and a number of senior members of
my political team. One of them made the following points said,
(30:47):
political consultants rarely win a campaign. The candidate has to
win a campaign, but a political consultant can lose a campaign.
And there is a very good possibility that Federns consultant,
whoever's running the campaign, lost that campaign by allowing him
to appear in that debate. It's it's remarkable. Presumably the
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campaign knows, they know he has this impairment, that he's
not able to get out three coherent sentences. They put
them up there anyway, and I think that is was
a stunning mistake. I'm surprised they didn't announce the morning
of the debate, Oh sorry, Fetterman has COVID. He's going
to be conveniently quarantined for the next two weeks. But
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you can see him the day after election day. And
we've talked previously on the pod about the Democrats strategy
of ducking debates. I think Fetterman's disastrous performance in this
debate will accelerate in the next cycle Democrat candidates saying
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I'm not going to debate debate because there's risk that
it could be bad. And if I don't do any debates,
the media will protect me and they'll be my messenger center.
I think this is exactly why there's so many voters
out there right now that are looking at these mid
terms as an issue of just flat out trusts. They
don't trust the media, they don't trust the Democrats. They
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look at you in the face and tell you that
there the economy is in great shape when it's not.
There's a montage of just some of the top lies
that we've heard from this administration, and I want people
to understand that if you go out there and you
talk to your family and you talk to your friends,
remind them that this Biden administration has been lying to
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you since day one, and these are just a few
of the highlights of this administration. You're not going to
get COVID if you have these vaccinations. Vaccinated people do
not carry the virus, don't get sick. Getting those shots
out for five to eleven year olds is going to
provide a lot of comfort to American families. Horses very
running over people being strapped. The horrific video of the
(32:55):
CBP officers on horse on horses using brutal and inappropriate
measures against people. We have a secure border. The border
is in fact secure. The border is closed. The border
is secure, The border is secure, the border is closed.
We've been unequivocal in that on the issue of Afghanistan,
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and to that end we have seen a successful drawdown
of the embassy. I think it's irresponsible to say Americans
are stranded. They're not. This is Jim Crow on steroids
what they're doing in Georgia. This is all about keeping
working folks and ordinary folks. So I grew up with
from being able to vote. The reconciliation package would cost
zero dollars. The cost of these bills in terms value
(33:38):
of the deficit is zero. Some have expressed publicly that
they're not comfortable with three point five even though zero
costs zero dollars, zero, zero, zero. This bill is fully
paid for, and we'll not raise taxes on anyone making
less than four hundred thousand dollars a year. Let me
say that again, be crystal clear, no one making less
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than four hundred thousand dollars you will pay a single
additional penny and tax for all these things that are
in the and the Build back Better plan. You listen
to these and the scary part of the center. We
have another two minutes of these lies that we put together,
but those are just some of the big ones. This election,
I truly think comes down to the issue of who
do you trust more to not lie to you? Who
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do you trust more to tell you the truth? You
listen to those lies. We have a secure border, you know,
that's a lie you've been talking about forever. That this
bill that you know, and we didn't even get to
the bill of the right, the we're going to make
sure the economy is all great. Right, we're gonna make
sure that there's no more inflation. Bill that they just passed.
And guess what it had nothing to do with It
had to do with all these green alternative energies, energy ideas.
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These are the lies they tell you. And I think
people are actually at the point now where they say enough, yeah,
look it has been so brazen and and there are
more that can be included, including one of the most astonishing.
They're like it was Republicans that wanted to shut down
schools and it was Democrats that wanted to open up schools,
which is like, at some level you have to sit
(35:09):
back and be like, all right, holy crap, that that's
some chutzpah. Look like it just you know, you know,
it's like stranger things going into the upside down. I mean,
I mean they you know, Karine Jean Pierre standing at
the White House press podium and saying people are not
just walking across the border. It's not happening. There is
(35:29):
a level, you know, Yeah, you actually have to ask
why is it that this administration feels so comfortable lying
on a daily basis on things that are obviously lies,
that are laughably demonstrably lies. And it is directly connected
to the corruption of the media. The two are intertwined.
(35:53):
My new book This Week, Justice Corrupted, How the Left
is weaponized the legal system. A lot of what it
talks about, why is Obama and now Biden able to
turn the Department of Justice and the FBI and the
IRS and the CIA and the federal government into a
weapon to target their political enemies. One of the big,
big reasons is because they count on the corporate media
(36:15):
to be their praetorian guard, to not question them, to
not report on it, to not acknowledge that it exists,
to do what Newsweek did with their idiotic fact check
on Antifa, to do what CNN and MSNBC do every day,
which is ignore the lies and even worse, sometimes report
(36:38):
the lies as truth and be active participants in lying.
And the more that happens, the more people realize, Okay,
I get the game. You know, when when Donald Trump
first started referring to fake news to a lot of people,
it was jarring. What's interesting is it's not jarring anymore
that it has been so conclusively demonstrated that I think
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millions of people are realizing these people are liars, and
they're in the business of aiding and abetting liars who
are lying to us. And that means you got to
find alternative ways to find the truth. And that's that's
one of the values of something like this podcast. It is.
Senator I appreciate you getting on the tour. You fighting
for so many conservatives. You're out there if people want
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to see where you're going to be, Where you're going next.
Tcbus tour dot com, tcbustour dot com. You can come.
So many listeners, by the way of this podcast have
shown up on the road and I know that's meant
the world to you. So to all of you that
have showed up, thank you. Thank you for listening and
supporting the senator and all the candidates that he is supporting. Uh,
(37:44):
stay in the game. Make sure you keep talking to
your family and your friends. Where are you guys going
next on the tour. Well, we're in Orlando right now.
We've got a rally tomorrow and Orlando with two congressional candidates,
Corey Mills and Scott As Scotty More. And then we're
headed to Michigan. We're headed to Utah. We're headed to
(38:06):
Texas for the big blowout rally at the end of
the bus tour. And I got to say, we're seeing
packed houses. You know you were with us in Franklin,
Tennessee last night. We had thirteen fourteen hundred people come
out in a rally for Andy Ogules, who is a
conservative running is going to be elected. I believe to
(38:28):
the House and be a strong conservative leader. We're seeing
that kind of enthusiasm the rallies today for herschel Walker,
huge crowds, and there's an energy and enthusiasm that I
think is just growing every day. It is no doubt
about it grabbed the new book Justice Corrupted, How the
Left weaponizes our legal system. Don't forget we're doing this
(38:48):
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the audience back here in a couple of days as well.
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