November 15, 2025 • 30 mins
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Healthcare Policy & Obamacare
- the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), caused premiums to skyrocket instead of reducing costs.
- Discussion of President Trump’s stance on healthcare reform, emphasizing Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) as a solution to empower individuals rather than insurance companies.
- Includes a tweet from Trump advocating for HSAs and opposing corporate welfare for health insurers.
- Stock performance data of major health insurance companies since Obamacare passed, highlighting massive profit increases.
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Government Shutdown & Political Divide
- Commentary on the recent government shutdown, blaming Democrats for prolonging it.
- Portrays Democrats as controlled by “Marxists” and “radicals,” contrasting Republican values of individual freedom and choice.
- Mentions internal Democratic Party conflicts and leadership struggles.
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Legislation Preview
- Introduction of the “Deporting Fraudsters Act of 2025”, aimed at making welfare fraud a deportable offense for illegal immigrants.
- Provides statistics on SNAP and public benefits abuse by non-citizens, estimating billions in costs over a decade.
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Profile on Senator John Fetterman
- Highlights Fetterman’s dissent from mainstream Democratic positions, especially his strong pro-Israel stance.
- Discusses his recovery from a stroke and the backlash he faces from within his party.
- Suggests growing incompatibility between being pro-Israel and being a Democrat.
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Campus Violence & Radical Groups
- Reports on violent protests at a Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley, allegedly funded by far-left organizations.
- Mentions Antifa involvement and chants celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
- References DOJ investigation into funding sources behind these protests and university administrators’ alleged complicity.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you, and here are some
of the big stories that you may have missed that
we talked about this week. First up, Democrats, they're pretty
upset over the government shutdown, but what they're really upset
about is your subsidies. Billions and billions of dollars in
payouts going to insurance companies that are getting rich. Obamacare
(00:24):
is broken, known as the Affordable Care Act, it's anything but,
and we'll explain it to you. Also, why are democrats
so angry with John Fetterman for just doing the right
thing and saying it's time to open the government. We'll
explain that as well. And finally, more violence as Antifa
attacks at a turning point USA gathering. It's the weekend
(00:48):
Review and it starts right now.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And the President he was in a good mood, but
he was He was expressing his views emphatically as he
always does.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and he met by the way, I've ever done
a phone call, Like if you've never gotten to do this,
he does not ever hold back when you're talking about
the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I not a single phone call.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You've had a lot more than I have, But when
I've had phone calls with him, whether it was in
sixteen to twenty or now forward, like, he does not
hold back at all. When you're on the cell phone,
on speakerphone as.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, he does not. So one of the things we
asked of him Friday night, we said, listen, in this
battle with the Democrats over Obamacare, Obamacare's failing. It's a
bad program. And if you go back, go back to
twenty thirteen. Twenty thirteen, when I did a filibuster against Obamacare,
I said, at the time, if you remember, Barack Obama
promised the American people, Obamacare would would cut the average
(01:41):
families premiums by twenty five hundred a year.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, that was a lie.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And in fact, they skyrocketed at the time five thousand
a year. They've skyrocketed a lot more than that. Even
the Washington Post has now admitted the editorial page the
Affordable Care Act, which is the misleading name of Obamacare,
did not make health care more affordable. It caused premiums
to skyrocket. So when we had Trump on the phone,
(02:05):
we said, look, it would really help if you made
the case that what Democrats are fighting for is these
massive multi billion dollar corporate welfare payoffs to the health
insurance companies instead of empowering consumers. And look, we want
a lower prices. And so we said, in particular, it
would really help if you would send a truth and
(02:28):
Trump said, great, come up with something. And so I
will tell you what the President sent. I had a
lot of input in this, and here's what he put out.
President Trump said, Democrats claim to be working for quote
the little guy and driving down your health insurance. But
the and the rest of this is in all caps,
(02:48):
Obamacare scam goes straight to their best friends in the
insurance industry. They are making a killing while health coverage
only gets worse. If Democrats get their way again, they're
in for another huge payday at the expense of the
American people. No deal in all caps. Republicans should give
(03:12):
money directly to your personal health savings accounts all in
caps that I expanded in our great, big, beautiful bill.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, this
is really important because if you want a really strong,
principled conservative reform to health insurance, expanding health savings accounts
(03:35):
so that you give you the consumer, you the patient,
more control and instead of sending money to the insurance companies,
send it straight to people's health savings accounts, so you
can spend it on premiums, you can spend it on deductibles,
you can spend it on healthcare that expands competition and
empowers patients at at lowers prices. The President leaning in
(03:55):
with this tweet really helps in this political will have
over the next six weeks because the outcome he's advocating
for is something I've advocated for a long time, and
and that was a direct result of that dinner on
Friday night where we got him on the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, there's one interesting thing that's coming out of
this first year of Trump being back in office. It
is really empowering the American people, whether it is the
accounts you's talked about, whether it's the Trump accounts that
are going to be coming in this next year that
you guys pass to give kids the opportunity to save
money and to be able to grow accounts and to
(04:34):
build wealth over their lifetime. Like, there is a lot
of personal growth and personal excitement that it's Trump is
get the government out of your life. You can do
better without it. We want to help you do that,
and then the Democrats like no, No, No, No, No, Mandani's
and others usually have.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
No control of your life.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We want to run the whole damn show from from
from birth to death. Just trust the US government to
be your daddy or your mommy or both. And that's
exactly the difference between the Republicans and Democrats right now.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Look at it's a fundamental divide. As you noted, we
passed the Trump accounts. As you know well, I wrote
that legislation. This has been a major theme that I've
been fighting for since the first day I got elected
to the Senate. And whether you're talking about hell savings accounts,
whether you're talking about Trump accounts that are that are
essentially four A one K savings accounts for kids, or
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whether you're talking about school choice and getting tax credits,
the unifying theme of all of those is individual choice,
empowering you the individual rather than government competition and giving
you control. That is the fundamental difference between left and right.
And President Trump has been a great partner in this,
(05:51):
and I'll tell you as a part of his tweet,
he sent out a chart, a chart which which which
I had sent him, but I want you to see
the chart. We're going to put it up on YouTube
for anyone that's watching on YouTube, but it goes through
the major healthcare companies their stock performance since Obamacare passed.
(06:13):
I'm going to walk through them. Etna Obamacare March twenty
ten is when it passed. Etna's stock stock price was
thirty dollars and fifty cents. Today it's two hundred and
twelve dollars, so it's increased five hundred and ninety five
percent since Obamacare passed. Senteen Its stock has increased six
hundred and four percent, Molina its stock has increased eight
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hundred and fifty nine percent, Humana its stock has increased
four hundred and ninety percent, Anthem Elevance Health Its stock
has increased four hundred and fourteen percent, Signa Its stock
has increased eight eight hundred and twenty two percent, and
United Health Group. When Obamacare passed, United Health stock was
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twenty five dollars and sixty six cents. Today November twenty
twenty five, it is three hundred and twenty seven dollars
and seventy four cents. That is at one thousand, one
hundred and seventy seven percent increase. That's what Obamacare, did
it massively increased the profits of the health insurance companies.
By the way, those health insurance companies overwhelmingly give to Democrats.
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They give to Chuck Schumer, they give to Keem Jeffries
and the Democrats because they recognize when Democrats are in power,
their profits go through the roof and the American people's
premium skyrocket. What are the Democrats say they wanted to
do in this shutdown give fifty billion dollars to those
same health insurance companies who profits have skyrocket. And it's
why what the presidents said is so important. No, we're
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not going to give money to health insurance companies. Instead,
we're going to expand health savings accounts so you, the
individual has control over your own healthcare.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Senator, I also want to get a little preview of
something that you're working on.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're going to do a more.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Expansive show on this, but it's important that people know
that even while the government has been shut down, you
have been working very hard on other things. One of
those things is you have now introduced the quote Deporting
Fraudster's Act of twenty twenty five, and it deals with
snap and public benefits abuses that is costing the American
(08:20):
people millions and millions of dollars. Give us a little
preview of this so people know what's been going on.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Look, this is a very simple bill. It is an
astonishing fact that right now welfare fraud, fraudulently taking government
assistance benefits is not a deportable offense under the immigration laws.
This law will change that and make it a deportable offense.
Let me give you some basic statistics. Forty eight percent
of households headed by illegal immigrants received food related welfare
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benefits forty eight percent nearly half specifically SNAP. A CIS
analysis found that thirty one percent of illegal alien household
with children draw SNAP benefits. One in five households getting
WICIC Women's Infants and Children or SNAP is headed by
a non citizen, and ninety six percent of the children
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in those households are US but born, showing how illegal
aliens exploit child based eligibility to access benefits indirectly. The
US Department of Agriculture reports one point seven six million
non citizens on SNAP in twenty twenty three. That is
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roughly three hundred and twelve million dollars in taxpayer funds.
In twenty twelve, or not twenty twelve, rather twenty twenty two,
it was one point five million recipients that cost two
hundred and twenty two million. Fraud is rampant. For example,
in twenty twenty four, one hundred and twenty six point
eight million dollars was stolen from EBT cards. In Texas,
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three point seven million people, about a eleven percent of
the state relies on SNAP. Every stolen or unlawfully claimed
dollar robs a citizen family in genuine need. And according
to the CBO, about two hundred thousand illegal aliens from
the surge of alien asylum seekers from twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty four already received SNAP, growing to eight
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hundred thousand by twenty thirty four, assuming no deportations. A
ten year cost. You said this cost millions. Yeah, the
ten year cost is fifteen billion dollars. And so this
bill is to target that and say, if you're here illegally,
you do not have any entitlement to public welfare, and
if you access fraudulently access public welfare, that is yet
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another ground to deport you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now, Chuck Schummer's a co sponsor this bill, right.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, and I feel confident that Schumer is not just
to no, he's a hello, because today's Democrat Party, it
is all for health insurance corporations, it is all for
illegal immigrants, it is all for violent criminals, it is
all for men and women's sports. It's all for everyone
except the average American citizen trying to work hard and
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provide for his or her family. And that's exactly backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. To say, again,
with a civil war, let's be clear. And that's part
of what I got to ask you about is there
are Democrats now that are basically like off with his
head and leadership. They want him gone. They're publicly saying
(11:38):
now you're saying, this is the end of him.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
He has done.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
MSNBC said a multiple times. CNN commentators are the same thing,
like he's done.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They got to get rid of him. His career is over.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This goes back to the being held hostage by the Marxists,
the socialist and the communists of the Democratic Party. Now
they didn't police him. Now they're running the party and
they're anarchists. And Chuck Schumer shut down the government for
the longest period in history of this country, and that
wasn't good enough for them.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And he still voted no on reopening it. So he
shut it down for the longust in history. He voted
no consistently, and yet they're still off with his head.
It really is the crazies are driving the Democrat Party.
And look, if you don't believe me, maybe you will
believe John Fetterman. I want you to listen to this exchange.
Senator John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, was on the View
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and Sonny, you know, one of the left wing hosts
there comes after him and comes after him hard. Listen
to her unhinged question and then listen to Fetterman's response.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Senator Bernie Sanders said the vote was a horrific mistake.
Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. Pole
after poll found more Americans on both sides of the
aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats had big wins last week, so
had momentum. Why give in now? Why bring a butter
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knife to a gunfight. Are you willing to gamble that
the GOLC will negotiate on healthcare is good faith once
the government reopens, because if that gamble is wrong, half
a million Pennsylvanians that you represent, their healthcare cost will
skyrocket if you are wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I believe you are wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, first of all, MTG is quite literally the last
person in America that I'm going to take advice or
to get their kinds of.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
My leadership and values from.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants like that,
then that's on them.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
And now I don't need and I don't need a lecture.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I don't need a lecture from from whether it's Bernie
or the governor in California, because they are representing very
deep blue blue kinds of populations and a lot of
those things, a lot of those things were part of
the extreme. And I'll remember what really needs to win,
to win the big win is involving my state and
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other states and those things. And why have we arrived
here after the election a year ago. We want to forget,
we got to forget some of the things that cost
us that election are now for me it's like, That's
why I'm trying to remind people that kinds of the
extreme newism, we can't return to those kind of things
and realize we need to find a way forward. And
(14:26):
I would like to rather than cite MTG, I'm going
to cite one of the new governor elects saying that
my election is not a green light to continue this shutdown,
because I promise you this isn't a political game. It
is viewed by that by many of us, but the
reality is forty two million Americans now not sure where
their next meal is going to come from, and because
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we vote like that, vote like that or people that
haven't been paid for five.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Weeks now, and that kinds of chaos.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Those workers borrow more than half a billion dollars, you know,
from their credit union just.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To be there, you with him talking about paying their bills,
and I love that from Fetterman.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
They also were very quiet because I didn't think I
don't think they realized he was going to come back
with facts that way and describe it. I jokingly said
to you before the show started, when's John Fetterman going
to join the Republican Party? Because he's been speaking an
awful lot of truth about the reality this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, look, I like John Fetterman, and I will tell
you Republicans actually treated much more nicely than the Democrats do.
The Democrats are mean to him, they're vicious to him.
They that they really have a deep antipathy to him.
And the amazing thing he votes the overwhelming majority of
the time with the Democrats. You know, he's on the
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Commerce Committee with me. On virtually every vote he votes
party line with the Democrats. On most votes on the floor,
he votes party line with the Democrats. He has a
few defections. So he did vote to open the government,
and that's viewed is this great heresy because he didn't
want to have a force a government shut down and
hurt millions of Americans and continue the longest government shut
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down in history. And the main area that he's been
willing to dissent from virtually every other congressional Democrat is
in support of Israel. And we've talked about before that
there is a real and cognizable pro Hamas caucus in
the Democrat Party. It rose up about ten years ago.
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The Democrats did nothing. They look the other way, and
it's now taken over their party, and Fetterman is a
massive outlier because he is genuinely pro Israel. He is
vocally pro Israel, and the radicals in the Democrat Party
hate him for that. And again, if you don't believe me,
listen to what John Fetterman said on exactly this topic.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You are not Jewish at least as far as I know.
Feel free to come feel fear to come out here
to me right now. But you have been one of
the most outspoken in it's beyond Washington, it's beyond politicians.
You have been one of the most outspoken people in
American life on the issue of anti Semitism. Why is
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this issue so important to you?
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Ironically I did that twenty three and me I'm ninety
seven percent German and three percent Neanderthal, and it's like,
maybe it's ironic that that a big German guy from
Pennsylvania has been very absolutely devoted to Israel and to
experience the kind of anti Semitism and in my life,
(17:34):
I mean, you know what, you know, the Tree of Life,
I mean, that's that's where you're from.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Too.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Absolutely appalling, and my heart breaks for what the Jewish
community's suffered, especially after ten to seven I've had the
honor of meeting, you know, members of the hostages, former
people that were kept underground for five hundred days. Five
hundred days. I mean, those are heroes. I've met with
widows their husbands were lost in the Gaza War, and
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they have eight children, raising eight children by their own.
That's a hero for all of it. So for me,
it's heartbreaking, and that's been what's so difficult for me
is like being devotion to Israel becoming increasingly incompatible with
being a proud Democrat now too, and that's put me
at odds. And the things that put me at odds
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have all converged at the same time, you know, the
Gaza War, the peace deal, and then we moved right
into a shutdown, you know, like now Democrats might not
be allowed to hold these views.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
And I'm not changing my party, and.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
You know, run the numbers, run the numbers, you know,
you would find that I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, he is a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But you've walked past his Senate office countless times. I've
walked past it, probably dozens of times when I'm up
in DC, and he had all the hostage pictures up
in his front office.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Which I thought was incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Look, he has been genuinely courageous and sincerely courageous on Israel,
and it's earned the absolute ire, hatred, animosity venom of
the radical left in the Democrat Party. I mean, you
heard what he just said there, that that being pro
Israel is becoming incompatible with being a proud Democrat. I mean,
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that's a that's a tragic statement. I wish that statement
were not true, but it is the biggest reason why
their radicals hate him and much of you know, when
he was first elected and he came into office, he
had had a stroke during the campaign and the stroke
was very debilitating. When when John showed up, the stroke
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really limited Like when I first met him, what the
stroke did is it limited his ability to process auditory input.
So you would talk to him and his brain was
not able to process the words he was hearing, and
so he would carry with him an iPad that had
a translator because it just this is one of the
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consequences that can be from a stroke, is your ability
to process words that you hear. Your brain just can't
put them together. So you would talk and he would
read it. But when he first got there, you would
talk to him, and he would literally he was not
able to understand what you were saying. And I mean
it hurt your heart. I mean, this is a is
a very bright man. The man's a Harvard graduate, but
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he had a medical issue that he had real consequences.
Early on, the Democrats all circled around him and said,
you know, he's perfectly capable. There are no issues whatsoever.
Because they assumed he would be a left wing Democrat,
that's what they expected of him. That was not a
crazy expectation going in. And then when he started standing up,
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particularly on Israel, standing up and defying the Prohamas caucus,
you started seeing the Democrats leaking and planning stories and
really attacking his mental capability. And the irony is, look
you heard in those exchanges. He's now able to have
a conversation. He still is a little halting in his communication.
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I think that's some of the aftermath of the stroke.
But the difference is night and day. You can now
have a conversation and he can hear you in a
way that when he showed up in the Senate he
was not able to. And yet Democrats are running to
reporters to plant negative stories attacking him. Many of his
colleagues want to drive him out of the party, and
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at least on the Republican side, I like John and
I think consistently all the Republicans are just trying to
be nice to him. By the way, they did the
same thing to Joe Manchin. They did the same thing
to Kirsten Cinemon. They succeeded in driving both of them
out of the party because they want no dissent. You
must obey and follow orders or they'll do everything they
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can to drive you out. To be honest, both Cinema
and mentioned I think Republicans were much nicer to than
Democrats were, and the consequence was they were both driven
out of the party.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
As before.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
on this topic, you can go back and down the
podcasts from early this week to hear the entire thing.
I want to get back to the big story number
three of the week you may have missed, all right,
I want to end the show with talking about something
else that is really made me sad this week. It's
also i think, really telling you where we are as
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a country with the radical left. We have seen violent
protesters at a Turning Point US USA event at UC Berkeley.
I wish it wasn't what we witnessed, but it was
radical leftists. I want to know who's funding them, Senator,
I want to know who's behind this. But it is
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shocking to see this level of rhetoric and attacks on
conservatives who are just going to have a conversation. And
it's very eeriely close to what we witnessed with the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Look, the pattern of left wing violence continues, and it
continues across the country, and it continues with with the
acquiescence and support of of many on the far left.
Far too many on the far left.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
This week, Turning Point USA had a rally at UC Berkeley. Now,
the speakers at the rally were doctor Frank Turik, who's
a Christian pastor, and Rob Schneider, who's a comedian and actor.
So it's it's not like either of these speakers were
particularly controversial in any normal or sane place. But but
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UC Berkeley is not necessarily a normal or sane place,
and and Antifa targeted them, targeted the people coming into
the rally coming in to see to to see listen
to the speakers and they were violent. Let me read
how Fox covered it. A bloody fight broke out near
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the University of California, Berkeley on Monday afternoon ahead of
a Turning Point USA event on campus. The event, which
featured doctor Frank Turk and Rob Schneider, marked the end
of the This Is Turning Point tour. It took place
just two months after Turning Point USA's founder Charlie Kirk
was assassinated at a campus event in Utah on September tenth.
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The confrontation erupted around four thirty pm Pacific Standard time.
During the brawl, two men were seen fighting each other,
one of whom had blood gushing from his face and
you can watch the video. Video taken by Fox News
Digital also shows a crowd of agitators gathered around the fight.
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These were left wing antifa activists. They were chanting obscene
chants that they were celebrating that Charlie Kirk had been
They were chanting how happy they are about that. Most
of them had masks and it. You can watch the
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video online of one of the people coming to the
Turning Point event who they beat the hell out of
him and his face is bleeding profusely, and they engaged
in violence. And I'll tell you what is frustrating is
where was the administration of Berkeley? Where was the police?
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Why are they allowing violent protesters? And look, these are
the same administrators. This is the same faculty that allowed
their campuses to be taken over for weeks and months
on end by radical anti Semitic protesters, by antifa communists
who again engage in threats of violence. And in both instances,
these are not organic. They're being paid for. There is
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I've been saying for a long time, follow the money.
I've been urging the Department of Justice in the FBI
to follow the money. I've introduced legislation, the Stop Funders
Act to add rioting as a predicate act to RICO
to let us go after the money that is behind
these violent anarchists. And I'll tell you what's being reported now.
This is another story. Fox News covered UC Berkeley's bloody
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protest of Turning Point USA, allegedly funded by far left nonprofit.
Attorney General Pambondi opens anti terrorism investigation into campus clash
outside Turning Point USA event. And here's what Fox reports.
Last month, a band of demonstrators marched across West Temple
Street in downtown Los Angeles in the national anti Trump
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No King's protest, carrying a banner that read, defeat Trump's
fascist takeover, stop ice raids and deportations by any means necessary,
and in one corner, four bold letters stood out B
A N, an acronym for by any means necessary. The
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rest of the banner spelled out clues to the group's
full name and smaller print quote Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action,
integration and immigration rights and fight for equality by any
means necessary. That organization one of two hundred and sixty
six groups with combined annual revenues of two point nine
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billion dollars two point nine billion dollars identified by Fox
News Digital leading the No King's protests, would soon reappear
at this week's flashpoint on the campus of University of California, Berkeley.
And so this group. A flyer circulated before the demonstration
urged participants to quote end fascist turning points, youth oriented
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campaign of incitement to violence. Now ironically they're accusing turning
point of incitement to violence, and they show up and
violently assault the people who are going to turning point.
This is it's it's classic Marxist technique of projecting and
accusing your opponents of doing what you're doing. And and
and this flier announced a rally outside of Zellerbach Hall
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an hour before the door's open for the event. Well,
the good news, UH is and and and a QR
page printed on the flyer leads to a page on
b A m N dot com, which is a domain
of this group that was helping fund the No Kings rallies.
And so there is an entire ecosystem with money flowing
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to promote violence. And thankfully, the Department of Justice under
Pambondi has announced that they're doing an anti terrorism investigation
to go after to follow the money. And I'll tell
you also, UH, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights
UH is questioning is question why Berkeley allowed this to happen.
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In fact, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Arment Dylan
formally demanded that you see Berkeley preserve all records regarding
their response to the mob violence UH at at Berkeley's
Turning Point USA event, all records good. And that's because
I suspect they're going to find they're going to find emails,
(29:27):
They're going to find administrators saying communicating back and forth,
just like we did with the anti Semitic protesters, where
it is clear that that that that the administrators do
not want to protect the people at Turning Point USA,
do not want the police to stop violence if it's
directed against conservatives, and and there's a real moral decay
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at our universities. And I'm glad we have an Apartment
of Justice that's willing to enforce the law and go
after number one, the money behind the left wing violence,
but number two, the admitt ministrators who are facilitating And
I got to say, it is not dissimilar to what's
happening in Nigeria we talked about a minute ago, where
you have government officials who look the other way and
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refuse to enforce the law to protect Christians. In Berkeley's case,
I suspect the evidence will indicate the school administrators look
the other way and refuse to protect the students at
Turning Point USA because they're rooting for the Antifa rioters
who are physically assaulting those students.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center,
Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal
with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts
every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each
day when you.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Listen to Verdict.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Afterwards, I'd love to have you as a listener to
again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, and we will see you
back here on Monday morning.
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you, and here are some
of the big stories that you may have missed that
we talked about this week. First up, Democrats, they're pretty
upset over the government shutdown, but what they're really upset
about is your subsidies. Billions and billions of dollars in
payouts going to insurance companies that are getting rich. Obamacare
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is broken, known as the Affordable Care Act, it's anything but,
and we'll explain it to you. Also, why are democrats
so angry with John Fetterman for just doing the right
thing and saying it's time to open the government. We'll
explain that as well. And finally, more violence as Antifa
attacks at a turning point USA gathering. It's the weekend
(00:48):
Review and it starts right now.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And the President he was in a good mood, but
he was He was expressing his views emphatically as he
always does.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and he met by the way, I've ever done
a phone call, Like if you've never gotten to do this,
he does not ever hold back when you're talking about
the phone.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I not a single phone call.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You've had a lot more than I have, But when
I've had phone calls with him, whether it was in
sixteen to twenty or now forward, like, he does not
hold back at all. When you're on the cell phone,
on speakerphone as.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, he does not. So one of the things we
asked of him Friday night, we said, listen, in this
battle with the Democrats over Obamacare, Obamacare's failing. It's a
bad program. And if you go back, go back to
twenty thirteen. Twenty thirteen, when I did a filibuster against Obamacare,
I said, at the time, if you remember, Barack Obama
promised the American people, Obamacare would would cut the average
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families premiums by twenty five hundred a year.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, that was a lie.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And in fact, they skyrocketed at the time five thousand
a year. They've skyrocketed a lot more than that. Even
the Washington Post has now admitted the editorial page the
Affordable Care Act, which is the misleading name of Obamacare,
did not make health care more affordable. It caused premiums
to skyrocket. So when we had Trump on the phone,
(02:05):
we said, look, it would really help if you made
the case that what Democrats are fighting for is these
massive multi billion dollar corporate welfare payoffs to the health
insurance companies instead of empowering consumers. And look, we want
a lower prices. And so we said, in particular, it
would really help if you would send a truth and
(02:28):
Trump said, great, come up with something. And so I
will tell you what the President sent. I had a
lot of input in this, and here's what he put out.
President Trump said, Democrats claim to be working for quote
the little guy and driving down your health insurance. But
the and the rest of this is in all caps,
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Obamacare scam goes straight to their best friends in the
insurance industry. They are making a killing while health coverage
only gets worse. If Democrats get their way again, they're
in for another huge payday at the expense of the
American people. No deal in all caps. Republicans should give
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money directly to your personal health savings accounts all in
caps that I expanded in our great, big, beautiful bill.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, this
is really important because if you want a really strong,
principled conservative reform to health insurance, expanding health savings accounts
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so that you give you the consumer, you the patient,
more control and instead of sending money to the insurance companies,
send it straight to people's health savings accounts, so you
can spend it on premiums, you can spend it on deductibles,
you can spend it on healthcare that expands competition and
empowers patients at at lowers prices. The President leaning in
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with this tweet really helps in this political will have
over the next six weeks because the outcome he's advocating
for is something I've advocated for a long time, and
and that was a direct result of that dinner on
Friday night where we got him on the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, there's one interesting thing that's coming out of
this first year of Trump being back in office. It
is really empowering the American people, whether it is the
accounts you's talked about, whether it's the Trump accounts that
are going to be coming in this next year that
you guys pass to give kids the opportunity to save
money and to be able to grow accounts and to
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build wealth over their lifetime. Like, there is a lot
of personal growth and personal excitement that it's Trump is
get the government out of your life. You can do
better without it. We want to help you do that,
and then the Democrats like no, No, No, No, No, Mandani's
and others usually have.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
No control of your life.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We want to run the whole damn show from from
from birth to death. Just trust the US government to
be your daddy or your mommy or both. And that's
exactly the difference between the Republicans and Democrats right now.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Look at it's a fundamental divide. As you noted, we
passed the Trump accounts. As you know well, I wrote
that legislation. This has been a major theme that I've
been fighting for since the first day I got elected
to the Senate. And whether you're talking about hell savings accounts,
whether you're talking about Trump accounts that are that are
essentially four A one K savings accounts for kids, or
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whether you're talking about school choice and getting tax credits,
the unifying theme of all of those is individual choice,
empowering you the individual rather than government competition and giving
you control. That is the fundamental difference between left and right.
And President Trump has been a great partner in this,
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and I'll tell you as a part of his tweet,
he sent out a chart, a chart which which which
I had sent him, but I want you to see
the chart. We're going to put it up on YouTube
for anyone that's watching on YouTube, but it goes through
the major healthcare companies their stock performance since Obamacare passed.
(06:13):
I'm going to walk through them. Etna Obamacare March twenty
ten is when it passed. Etna's stock stock price was
thirty dollars and fifty cents. Today it's two hundred and
twelve dollars, so it's increased five hundred and ninety five
percent since Obamacare passed. Senteen Its stock has increased six
hundred and four percent, Molina its stock has increased eight
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hundred and fifty nine percent, Humana its stock has increased
four hundred and ninety percent, Anthem Elevance Health Its stock
has increased four hundred and fourteen percent, Signa Its stock
has increased eight eight hundred and twenty two percent, and
United Health Group. When Obamacare passed, United Health stock was
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twenty five dollars and sixty six cents. Today November twenty
twenty five, it is three hundred and twenty seven dollars
and seventy four cents. That is at one thousand, one
hundred and seventy seven percent increase. That's what Obamacare, did
it massively increased the profits of the health insurance companies.
By the way, those health insurance companies overwhelmingly give to Democrats.
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They give to Chuck Schumer, they give to Keem Jeffries
and the Democrats because they recognize when Democrats are in power,
their profits go through the roof and the American people's
premium skyrocket. What are the Democrats say they wanted to
do in this shutdown give fifty billion dollars to those
same health insurance companies who profits have skyrocket. And it's
why what the presidents said is so important. No, we're
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not going to give money to health insurance companies. Instead,
we're going to expand health savings accounts so you, the
individual has control over your own healthcare.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Senator, I also want to get a little preview of
something that you're working on.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're going to do a more.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Expansive show on this, but it's important that people know
that even while the government has been shut down, you
have been working very hard on other things. One of
those things is you have now introduced the quote Deporting
Fraudster's Act of twenty twenty five, and it deals with
snap and public benefits abuses that is costing the American
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people millions and millions of dollars. Give us a little
preview of this so people know what's been going on.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Look, this is a very simple bill. It is an
astonishing fact that right now welfare fraud, fraudulently taking government
assistance benefits is not a deportable offense under the immigration laws.
This law will change that and make it a deportable offense.
Let me give you some basic statistics. Forty eight percent
of households headed by illegal immigrants received food related welfare
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benefits forty eight percent nearly half specifically SNAP. A CIS
analysis found that thirty one percent of illegal alien household
with children draw SNAP benefits. One in five households getting
WICIC Women's Infants and Children or SNAP is headed by
a non citizen, and ninety six percent of the children
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in those households are US but born, showing how illegal
aliens exploit child based eligibility to access benefits indirectly. The
US Department of Agriculture reports one point seven six million
non citizens on SNAP in twenty twenty three. That is
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roughly three hundred and twelve million dollars in taxpayer funds.
In twenty twelve, or not twenty twelve, rather twenty twenty two,
it was one point five million recipients that cost two
hundred and twenty two million. Fraud is rampant. For example,
in twenty twenty four, one hundred and twenty six point
eight million dollars was stolen from EBT cards. In Texas,
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three point seven million people, about a eleven percent of
the state relies on SNAP. Every stolen or unlawfully claimed
dollar robs a citizen family in genuine need. And according
to the CBO, about two hundred thousand illegal aliens from
the surge of alien asylum seekers from twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty four already received SNAP, growing to eight
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hundred thousand by twenty thirty four, assuming no deportations. A
ten year cost. You said this cost millions. Yeah, the
ten year cost is fifteen billion dollars. And so this
bill is to target that and say, if you're here illegally,
you do not have any entitlement to public welfare, and
if you access fraudulently access public welfare, that is yet
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another ground to deport you.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now, Chuck Schummer's a co sponsor this bill, right.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, and I feel confident that Schumer is not just
to no, he's a hello, because today's Democrat Party, it
is all for health insurance corporations, it is all for
illegal immigrants, it is all for violent criminals, it is
all for men and women's sports. It's all for everyone
except the average American citizen trying to work hard and
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provide for his or her family. And that's exactly backwards.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. To say, again,
with a civil war, let's be clear. And that's part
of what I got to ask you about is there
are Democrats now that are basically like off with his
head and leadership. They want him gone. They're publicly saying
(11:38):
now you're saying, this is the end of him.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
He has done.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
MSNBC said a multiple times. CNN commentators are the same thing,
like he's done.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They got to get rid of him. His career is over.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This goes back to the being held hostage by the Marxists,
the socialist and the communists of the Democratic Party. Now
they didn't police him. Now they're running the party and
they're anarchists. And Chuck Schumer shut down the government for
the longest period in history of this country, and that
wasn't good enough for them.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And he still voted no on reopening it. So he
shut it down for the longust in history. He voted
no consistently, and yet they're still off with his head.
It really is the crazies are driving the Democrat Party.
And look, if you don't believe me, maybe you will
believe John Fetterman. I want you to listen to this exchange.
Senator John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania, was on the View
(12:29):
and Sonny, you know, one of the left wing hosts
there comes after him and comes after him hard. Listen
to her unhinged question and then listen to Fetterman's response.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Senator Bernie Sanders said the vote was a horrific mistake.
Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender. Pole
after poll found more Americans on both sides of the
aisle blaming Republicans. Even Marjorie Taylor Green blamed the GOP.
As you mentioned, Democrats had big wins last week, so
had momentum. Why give in now? Why bring a butter
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knife to a gunfight. Are you willing to gamble that
the GOLC will negotiate on healthcare is good faith once
the government reopens, because if that gamble is wrong, half
a million Pennsylvanians that you represent, their healthcare cost will
skyrocket if you are wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I believe you are wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, first of all, MTG is quite literally the last
person in America that I'm going to take advice or
to get their kinds of.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
My leadership and values from.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And now if Democrats are celebrating crazy pants like that,
then that's on them.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
And now I don't need and I don't need a lecture.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
I don't need a lecture from from whether it's Bernie
or the governor in California, because they are representing very
deep blue blue kinds of populations and a lot of
those things, a lot of those things were part of
the extreme. And I'll remember what really needs to win,
to win the big win is involving my state and
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other states and those things. And why have we arrived
here after the election a year ago. We want to forget,
we got to forget some of the things that cost
us that election are now for me it's like, That's
why I'm trying to remind people that kinds of the
extreme newism, we can't return to those kind of things
and realize we need to find a way forward. And
(14:26):
I would like to rather than cite MTG, I'm going
to cite one of the new governor elects saying that
my election is not a green light to continue this shutdown,
because I promise you this isn't a political game. It
is viewed by that by many of us, but the
reality is forty two million Americans now not sure where
their next meal is going to come from, and because
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we vote like that, vote like that or people that
haven't been paid for five.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Weeks now, and that kinds of chaos.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Those workers borrow more than half a billion dollars, you know,
from their credit union just.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To be there, you with him talking about paying their bills,
and I love that from Fetterman.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
They also were very quiet because I didn't think I
don't think they realized he was going to come back
with facts that way and describe it. I jokingly said
to you before the show started, when's John Fetterman going
to join the Republican Party? Because he's been speaking an
awful lot of truth about the reality this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, look, I like John Fetterman, and I will tell
you Republicans actually treated much more nicely than the Democrats do.
The Democrats are mean to him, they're vicious to him.
They that they really have a deep antipathy to him.
And the amazing thing he votes the overwhelming majority of
the time with the Democrats. You know, he's on the
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Commerce Committee with me. On virtually every vote he votes
party line with the Democrats. On most votes on the floor,
he votes party line with the Democrats. He has a
few defections. So he did vote to open the government,
and that's viewed is this great heresy because he didn't
want to have a force a government shut down and
hurt millions of Americans and continue the longest government shut
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down in history. And the main area that he's been
willing to dissent from virtually every other congressional Democrat is
in support of Israel. And we've talked about before that
there is a real and cognizable pro Hamas caucus in
the Democrat Party. It rose up about ten years ago.
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The Democrats did nothing. They look the other way, and
it's now taken over their party, and Fetterman is a
massive outlier because he is genuinely pro Israel. He is
vocally pro Israel, and the radicals in the Democrat Party
hate him for that. And again, if you don't believe me,
listen to what John Fetterman said on exactly this topic.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You are not Jewish at least as far as I know.
Feel free to come feel fear to come out here
to me right now. But you have been one of
the most outspoken in it's beyond Washington, it's beyond politicians.
You have been one of the most outspoken people in
American life on the issue of anti Semitism. Why is
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this issue so important to you?
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Ironically I did that twenty three and me I'm ninety
seven percent German and three percent Neanderthal, and it's like,
maybe it's ironic that that a big German guy from
Pennsylvania has been very absolutely devoted to Israel and to
experience the kind of anti Semitism and in my life,
(17:34):
I mean, you know what, you know, the Tree of Life,
I mean, that's that's where you're from.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Too.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Absolutely appalling, and my heart breaks for what the Jewish
community's suffered, especially after ten to seven I've had the
honor of meeting, you know, members of the hostages, former
people that were kept underground for five hundred days. Five
hundred days. I mean, those are heroes. I've met with
widows their husbands were lost in the Gaza War, and
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they have eight children, raising eight children by their own.
That's a hero for all of it. So for me,
it's heartbreaking, and that's been what's so difficult for me
is like being devotion to Israel becoming increasingly incompatible with
being a proud Democrat now too, and that's put me
at odds. And the things that put me at odds
(18:24):
have all converged at the same time, you know, the
Gaza War, the peace deal, and then we moved right
into a shutdown, you know, like now Democrats might not
be allowed to hold these views.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
And I'm not changing my party, and.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
You know, run the numbers, run the numbers, you know,
you would find that I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, he is a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But you've walked past his Senate office countless times. I've
walked past it, probably dozens of times when I'm up
in DC, and he had all the hostage pictures up
in his front office.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Which I thought was incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Look, he has been genuinely courageous and sincerely courageous on Israel,
and it's earned the absolute ire, hatred, animosity venom of
the radical left in the Democrat Party. I mean, you
heard what he just said there, that that being pro
Israel is becoming incompatible with being a proud Democrat. I mean,
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that's a that's a tragic statement. I wish that statement
were not true, but it is the biggest reason why
their radicals hate him and much of you know, when
he was first elected and he came into office, he
had had a stroke during the campaign and the stroke
was very debilitating. When when John showed up, the stroke
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really limited Like when I first met him, what the
stroke did is it limited his ability to process auditory input.
So you would talk to him and his brain was
not able to process the words he was hearing, and
so he would carry with him an iPad that had
a translator because it just this is one of the
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consequences that can be from a stroke, is your ability
to process words that you hear. Your brain just can't
put them together. So you would talk and he would
read it. But when he first got there, you would
talk to him, and he would literally he was not
able to understand what you were saying. And I mean
it hurt your heart. I mean, this is a is
a very bright man. The man's a Harvard graduate, but
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he had a medical issue that he had real consequences.
Early on, the Democrats all circled around him and said,
you know, he's perfectly capable. There are no issues whatsoever.
Because they assumed he would be a left wing Democrat,
that's what they expected of him. That was not a
crazy expectation going in. And then when he started standing up,
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particularly on Israel, standing up and defying the Prohamas caucus,
you started seeing the Democrats leaking and planning stories and
really attacking his mental capability. And the irony is, look
you heard in those exchanges. He's now able to have
a conversation. He still is a little halting in his communication.
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I think that's some of the aftermath of the stroke.
But the difference is night and day. You can now
have a conversation and he can hear you in a
way that when he showed up in the Senate he
was not able to. And yet Democrats are running to
reporters to plant negative stories attacking him. Many of his
colleagues want to drive him out of the party, and
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at least on the Republican side, I like John and
I think consistently all the Republicans are just trying to
be nice to him. By the way, they did the
same thing to Joe Manchin. They did the same thing
to Kirsten Cinemon. They succeeded in driving both of them
out of the party because they want no dissent. You
must obey and follow orders or they'll do everything they
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can to drive you out. To be honest, both Cinema
and mentioned I think Republicans were much nicer to than
Democrats were, and the consequence was they were both driven
out of the party.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
As before.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
on this topic, you can go back and down the
podcasts from early this week to hear the entire thing.
I want to get back to the big story number
three of the week you may have missed, all right,
I want to end the show with talking about something
else that is really made me sad this week. It's
also i think, really telling you where we are as
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a country with the radical left. We have seen violent
protesters at a Turning Point US USA event at UC Berkeley.
I wish it wasn't what we witnessed, but it was
radical leftists. I want to know who's funding them, Senator,
I want to know who's behind this. But it is
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shocking to see this level of rhetoric and attacks on
conservatives who are just going to have a conversation. And
it's very eeriely close to what we witnessed with the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Look, the pattern of left wing violence continues, and it
continues across the country, and it continues with with the
acquiescence and support of of many on the far left.
Far too many on the far left.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
This week, Turning Point USA had a rally at UC Berkeley. Now,
the speakers at the rally were doctor Frank Turik, who's
a Christian pastor, and Rob Schneider, who's a comedian and actor.
So it's it's not like either of these speakers were
particularly controversial in any normal or sane place. But but
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UC Berkeley is not necessarily a normal or sane place,
and and Antifa targeted them, targeted the people coming into
the rally coming in to see to to see listen
to the speakers and they were violent. Let me read
how Fox covered it. A bloody fight broke out near
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the University of California, Berkeley on Monday afternoon ahead of
a Turning Point USA event on campus. The event, which
featured doctor Frank Turk and Rob Schneider, marked the end
of the This Is Turning Point tour. It took place
just two months after Turning Point USA's founder Charlie Kirk
was assassinated at a campus event in Utah on September tenth.
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The confrontation erupted around four thirty pm Pacific Standard time.
During the brawl, two men were seen fighting each other,
one of whom had blood gushing from his face and
you can watch the video. Video taken by Fox News
Digital also shows a crowd of agitators gathered around the fight.
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These were left wing antifa activists. They were chanting obscene
chants that they were celebrating that Charlie Kirk had been
They were chanting how happy they are about that. Most
of them had masks and it. You can watch the
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video online of one of the people coming to the
Turning Point event who they beat the hell out of
him and his face is bleeding profusely, and they engaged
in violence. And I'll tell you what is frustrating is
where was the administration of Berkeley? Where was the police?
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Why are they allowing violent protesters? And look, these are
the same administrators. This is the same faculty that allowed
their campuses to be taken over for weeks and months
on end by radical anti Semitic protesters, by antifa communists
who again engage in threats of violence. And in both instances,
these are not organic. They're being paid for. There is
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I've been saying for a long time, follow the money.
I've been urging the Department of Justice in the FBI
to follow the money. I've introduced legislation, the Stop Funders
Act to add rioting as a predicate act to RICO
to let us go after the money that is behind
these violent anarchists. And I'll tell you what's being reported now.
This is another story. Fox News covered UC Berkeley's bloody
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protest of Turning Point USA, allegedly funded by far left nonprofit.
Attorney General Pambondi opens anti terrorism investigation into campus clash
outside Turning Point USA event. And here's what Fox reports.
Last month, a band of demonstrators marched across West Temple
Street in downtown Los Angeles in the national anti Trump
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No King's protest, carrying a banner that read, defeat Trump's
fascist takeover, stop ice raids and deportations by any means necessary,
and in one corner, four bold letters stood out B
A N, an acronym for by any means necessary. The
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rest of the banner spelled out clues to the group's
full name and smaller print quote Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action,
integration and immigration rights and fight for equality by any
means necessary. That organization one of two hundred and sixty
six groups with combined annual revenues of two point nine
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billion dollars two point nine billion dollars identified by Fox
News Digital leading the No King's protests, would soon reappear
at this week's flashpoint on the campus of University of California, Berkeley.
And so this group. A flyer circulated before the demonstration
urged participants to quote end fascist turning points, youth oriented
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campaign of incitement to violence. Now ironically they're accusing turning
point of incitement to violence, and they show up and
violently assault the people who are going to turning point.
This is it's it's classic Marxist technique of projecting and
accusing your opponents of doing what you're doing. And and
and this flier announced a rally outside of Zellerbach Hall
(28:14):
an hour before the door's open for the event. Well,
the good news, UH is and and and a QR
page printed on the flyer leads to a page on
b A m N dot com, which is a domain
of this group that was helping fund the No Kings rallies.
And so there is an entire ecosystem with money flowing
(28:37):
to promote violence. And thankfully, the Department of Justice under
Pambondi has announced that they're doing an anti terrorism investigation
to go after to follow the money. And I'll tell
you also, UH, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights
UH is questioning is question why Berkeley allowed this to happen.
(29:04):
In fact, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Arment Dylan
formally demanded that you see Berkeley preserve all records regarding
their response to the mob violence UH at at Berkeley's
Turning Point USA event, all records good. And that's because
I suspect they're going to find they're going to find emails,
(29:27):
They're going to find administrators saying communicating back and forth,
just like we did with the anti Semitic protesters, where
it is clear that that that that the administrators do
not want to protect the people at Turning Point USA,
do not want the police to stop violence if it's
directed against conservatives, and and there's a real moral decay
(29:47):
at our universities. And I'm glad we have an Apartment
of Justice that's willing to enforce the law and go
after number one, the money behind the left wing violence,
but number two, the admitt ministrators who are facilitating And
I got to say, it is not dissimilar to what's
happening in Nigeria we talked about a minute ago, where
you have government officials who look the other way and
(30:11):
refuse to enforce the law to protect Christians. In Berkeley's case,
I suspect the evidence will indicate the school administrators look
the other way and refuse to protect the students at
Turning Point USA because they're rooting for the Antifa rioters
who are physically assaulting those students.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
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