May 19, 2024 • 38 mins
Greg talks about how recruiting has evolved and expanded even further in 2024, talks to Colby Dant of the Sports Gambling Podcast Network about the offseason the Big XII has had, the bevy of options boardline NBA Draft picks have to return to school,, & UW Green Bay hiring Doug Gottlieb, & Greg recaps Saturday's college basketball coaching and player movement
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2:52-How recruiting has grown in impact in 2024
13:00-Interview with Colby Dant
34:56-Recap of Saturday’s coaching and player movement
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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We've got Nuxtellent podcast. But as joining me in segment
number two, we've got Kobe Dantaboard, who he does amazing
work over at the Sports Family podcast Network. We're gonna
be chatting with him about what we've all seen this
last week or two in college basketball. Some of the
teams have done a nice job in the transfer portal.
We're certainly gonna be touching a little bit on the
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Big twelve, but have to dive in on everything that
we've seen over at UW. Green Bay this past week
with our good friend Doug Gottlieb getting hired over there,
and couple that with the fact that we are seeing
record amount of NIL money going to these guys that
are still there in the transfer portal. I think that
that's going to be impacting NBA draft decisions and so
much more. And then in the final segment, gonna give
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we saw in college basketball on Saturday. If you do
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so I know it's going to be coming. But spontaneously
when I ask our good friend Kobe about what we've
all seen over at UW Green Bay, he's gonna throw
out there something very interesting in that. Part of the
reason why U to B Green Bay might be making
this hire could be perhaps have Doug Gottlieb as a
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little bit more of a figurehead for the university. Meanwhile,
you've got someone in Jordan McCabe, who you may remember.
He was a rock solid player in college, played a
little bit at UNLV, played a little bit over for
West Virginia as well as actually a guy.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
From the area.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He's from Kokona, Wisconsin for those that know Wisconsin me
or miles away from Green Bay. They could have him
being a little bit more of a guy that is
doing a lot of the legwork. Meanwhile, Doug Gottlieb, he's
more of the face of the organization. I would not
I want to call it like a figure out. I
think that would be going a little bit too far.
But certainly a little bit more of the face I
think is the best way of being able to put it.
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I do think that it is so interesting because I
do think that the letters ABC, which for those that
know in college basketball and college sports in general, that
means always be crutin. I do think that it is
taking on a little bit of a different shall we say,
tenor And it's really going even further because we're seeing
this new nil tournament that's going to be busting out.
That's certainly one that has been capturing a live attention.
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We've got schools that were going from very very good
tournaments like I think that Creatin pulled out of I
might be wrong on this one, but the battle for
Atlanta is to be taking part in this new nil
tournament that's going to be going on, and it does
feel like this same age of college basketball is causing
teams to recruit in different ways. This could be a
way of recruiting because the one thing that I was
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mentioning when Doug Godlee was hired over at UW Green
Bay with you, Doug Gottlieb, he did have the highest
ceiling of any of these coaches that were up for
the job. Now he also has by far the lowest floor.
And I will still stand by it. I think that
this is more likely to bus than it is to
be a success. I'm not gonna say it's one hundred
percent going to be a bus because we have yet
to see a playoff. Do I think it's going to
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be successful. No, But there's a world where Doug Gottlieb
has a very very good run of things. He gets
in way more talent than we could ever believe. You
got guys like Jordan McCabe who are very smart that
they put the wheels in motion in ap it works
out for EW Green Bay. That's not the most far
fetched of things that we've ever seen. Like we've already
seen a fifteen seed make the Elite eight here in
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the last few years, so I'm pretty much anything in
college basketball is possible, but I do think that things
are just taking out a little bit more of a
life of their own. When it comes to the letters
ABC with always be Creudon, and I do think the
teams are getting more and more creative with it. And
like with UW Green Bay, I'm talking about it right now,
I'm a schmuck for this story because it's something that
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we've never truly seen before. Perhaps that was a little
bit of the angle for UW Green Bay making this higher.
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Speaker 1 (07:21):
Thank you, Oh thanks for having me. Greg.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Always a pleasure to come on your show and always
great because I know your knowledge is infinite when it
comes to college hoops, so it's always great, you know.
I know we both love this game, and there's not
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your work and I love coming here on your show.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I love having you o bar because you do a
great job looking at the biggest of the big schools
and the smallest of the small and typically this is
not a school that's getting a lot of buzz in
mid May. But with W Green Bay, if nothing else,
they've created a lot of shall we say media. I'm
not saying it's the world's greatest media, but as they
always say, oh press is good, press times and UW
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Green Bay they hire on Doug Gottliebu is going to
be continuing it's nationally syndicated radio show over at Fox
while he coaches up UW. Green Bay. Do want to
get your thoughts here, because if I am looking from
UW Green Bay side of things, the one thing I
will say is, out of all the candidates, if you're
looking for the absolute highest of high upsides out of
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all of them, Doug Gottlie does have that. But also
if you're looking for the lowest of lower floors, and
if you're looking for the one that is least likely
to be successful, also thank you also land on Doug GOTTLIEB.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean this I think was the most shocking
hire of the entire officers.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And I must have missed this last year. This almost
happened last year.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I heard, you know, because Sundance Wicks was only there
one year and now he goes back to Wyoming where
he used to be.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I did not see that last year.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Maybe it wasn't the headline, so I mean you got
to be close to the program maybe to.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Know that, but I didn't catch it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And then when this happened, I was like, what, No,
he played ball at Oklahoma State and I think he
played a little pro in some Europeans leagues, and obviously
I'm familiar with his work from you know, CBS and
Fox and ESPN.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Over the years.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But the fact that you're going to balance that because
I don't know about you, but the coaches I've talked
to in college basketball and college football on our show
over the past couple of years. I mean, I just
had Dan Hawkins on This Was Football, you know, he
just retired this offseason. He was just like, man, the
transfer portal, everything, it's relentless. And I've heard it the
same with college basketball coaches that we've talked to. Obviously,
my co host on The College Basketball Experience is close
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to Frank Martin and Bob Hoggins and a slew of
other coaches that are in the game. You know, he
always recites to me what they're saying is like, this
is an endless job.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Right now. Your team could leave any time.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You have to constantly check in with your own roster,
let alone be searching for talent out there to think
you can do that and then and then juggle your
three hour talk radio show. And I also heard he's
contractually obligated to an hour long podcast too. I'm not
sure if that's the actual show or if that's but
still I commend him for wanting to do that much
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work in one regard, But I just don't know from
a university standpoint if that makes a lot of sense
to hire someone like that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. You want someone that's
going to be all in. And I do feel like
he puts himself in a rough situation as well, because,
as we know, in this day and age with regards
to sports media, there's more and more talk around sports betting,
sports gambling, and well, I think that you should be
able to get away with it when it comes to
like NFL props. But I'm where do you draw the
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line there? That's a sticky situation for one, and for two,
if he's not talking enough about say like the NFL,
the NBA, what have you, he's doing a disservice to
his show. Meanwhile, if he's talking like as if he
was able to catch you entirely, like but in a
football game or anything like that, it's like, shouldn't you
be studying tape of your own team instead? But after
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you guys got blasted by thirty points against right State.
So I feel like he puts himself in a really
bad spot where it's like, gosh, darned if you do
and darned if you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And even worse is you look at the Green Bay
Packers within his home state.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now you know, if they started winning and he's got
to cover that on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And he's talking about that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's like, let alone the same city that your university resides,
and you're gonna be saying, hey, you know what, are
you paying more attention to the Packers or your basketball program?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It seems like a slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, I did see he retained Jordan McCabe as an
assistant coach. He was an assistant under Sundance Wicks. Now
that's an interesting one in my opinion, if I was
Green Bay, I would have looked potentially into actually hiring Jeorgan.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Cave is actually a Wisconsin guy as well, from Kakada, Wisconsin.
We are miles away from Green Bay, So I actually
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
My point is is like, why wouldn't you just hire
him as the head go Maybe this is something where
Gottlieb will be the CEO in a way and McCabe's
gonna do.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
The grunt of the work.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Maybe, you know, like if this thing hits Greg, Let's
say gott Leeb's successful and they win a couple of
Horizon League championships, or maybe they just you know, have
some winning seasons there like Sundance Wicks did last year.
Will this be a common theme though, because another thing
is it could bring press. It's bringing the press right now,
me and you talking about it. But let alone the
fact that he's on air every day. I wonder if
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he'll promote his own program, because that's an interesting angle.
It's almost like the Deon Sanders thing of having the
camera crew follow you around at Colorado. I don't know
that it's ever been proven to be successful. I mean,
Dion will be I think one. We're all watching this fall.
But maybe that's an angle to get eyeballs to increase
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the value of your university.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Maybe I'm grasping at straws perhaps, but what do you
think about that angle?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's so interesting because he is going to be talking
much more about Rizon League basketball than darn near anyone
else in terms of the spotlight that he has, other
than perhaps myself in terms of College fast Well, which
has a good thing, and that's going to be Alpell
hop out UW Green Bay. And I do think that
what you bring up, if you have Jordan McCabe doing
a lot of the work and Doug Gotlin, for lack
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of a better term, is a little bit more of a figurehead,
I do think that that's something that could be able
to work out as well. That's that I have a
lot of questions. It's just something that is unprecedented, so
it's hard to say that automatically it's not going to work. Personally,
I think that it's less likely to work than it does.
But as I was alluding to as well, I do
think that there might be a higher upside with this
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than anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's going to be wild times out there at the
Horizon legas it's always wild times when we've got Kobe
Dant on the show. He does great work over the
Sports Gambley podcast. We're trying to be right here on
costc soups, and certainly it's spent wild times in the
transfer portal as well. And with everything that we've been
talking about with Doug Gottlieb, what have you. I feel
like the news of TCU from a few days ago
has really flown under the radar. They're bringing in Tarzarian White,
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a nineteen point per game score over at UNC one
wet and a guy that's six foot six, six foot
seven is able to pop it from three. It was
a TCU team that lost a lot from last season,
and I felt like that was a big move that
went under the radar with everything else that we saw
this past week, including Great Osbor having that record signing
as well, And I think that that's just the way
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that TCU likes it because that I felt like was
a big ad for them for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And TCU though, has.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Kind of been I think a little ahead of the
curve in the portal the past couple of years. They've
had key guys, whether it was Jami or Nelson Junior
who I feel like they got someone the year before
that to him drawing a blank on, but they have
been kind of transferred you in a way when it
comes to basketball. Jamie Dixon certainly ahead of the times.
I would say were ahead of the curve.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Jamie Dixon's obviously a good coach. He puts a winning
product on the court pretty much every year. I think
only once at TCU as he had a losing record,
and at PITT I don't believe he did if memory
shares me correct. But they've been a strange team because
I've thought the past two college basketball seasons, specifically those
two he's made the tournament three straight years, but specifically
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the past two there's been moments in January where I say, man,
TCU's so talented. This looks like a Final four team
to me, or like this could be one. Maybe I'd
take a shot on them, a future on them. But
for some reason, it seems like they hit their peak
mid season and down the stretch they have just a
lot of struggles.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I know two years ago they had some injuries and
Eddie Lampkin had left the team, But even last year
I thought that team was super talented. I was shocked
that got eliminated, didn't even advance past the first round.
But as far as the portal, he brought in Frankie
Collins from Arizona State too, and Noah Reynolds, speaking of
Green Bay Nicks, those two with White. Actually I went
to a game at UNC Wilmington last year. That guy's
a stud. It'll be interesting to see how he performs
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on the Big twelve level. But I think it's a
great get. He went in and brought in r. J.
Jones from Kansas State and Brandon Wenzel from Wyoming. They've
been very active in the portal. The question is and
you quickly get everyone to play together. I know they
also returned a couple guys from last year's roster that
should keep their fan base excited. So I mean, yes,
great job going to get them, but I just keep
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wondering what is stopping them that to me, both their
teams the past two years, without question, to me, should
have been Sweet sixteen teams and they weren't. So in
that regard, I'm a bit, you know, concerned about Jamie Dixon.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Can you find a way.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't want to say he's on the hot seat
because he never has a losing season and TCU wasn't
really relevant, you know, prior to him, not since the
days of Kurt Thomas.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So great job in the portal. Let's see if it
works again.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm sure in January me and you will be having
this conversation and.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I go, they look like the best team in the nation. Maybe,
but they got to figure it out to me in March.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
In February, yep, absolutely, And then near miss against Arizona
a few years ago as well, that was a bit
of a heartbreaker for them as well. But I do
like what I'm seeing out of them, and I have
to say, in terms of the Big Twelve, I love
what I'm seeing from Cincinnati as well as we did
see late on Friday. Jill Mitchell, a five star guy,
a guy that was solid at Texas. I'm not gonna
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say he was like some sort of a dominator or
anything like that, but very solid at Texas. He's gonna
be heading on over to Cincinnati. And I just look
at the depth of the Big twelve once again this year,
and sure, maybe a team like a Central Florida might
be having a little bit of a down year, but
I'm just looking one through sixteen at this conference and
I'm seeing a voaded conference with Cincinnati once again perhaps
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being one of those teams that might be a little
bit towards the middle slash bottom half of the conference,
but really like what they've been able to do. And
I feel like Wes Miller, who did a great job
bringing in a bunch of banks rebounders last season, he's
looking to run that style back once again and being
able to bringing a guy like a Dyllan Mitchell well,
while they're once again dominant on guy as much like
they were a season to go.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, and to me, looking back at last season, I
was a little more bullish I think than the national
media on BYU, which turned out to be correct. But
out of the teams that came in. We knew Houston
would be fine. We knew Houston was can be fine.
You know, I hadn't been sold on West Miller, and
last year I kind of got sold on him. I know,
it still wasn't the season that Cincinnati Bearcat fans won,
but they were much more competitive in the Big Twelve
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than I thought potentially they could be. You know, two
years ago and the year prior to that, I was
not sold on him as the higher at Cincinnati. And
now I think after this past season where they lost
a lot of close games, they played a lot of
good teams, a lot of the stronger teams in the
Big Twelve, I thought they played really well.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I remember that Texas game.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I feel like they should have got Texas to land
Mitchell I think is huge. They also got Paige the
kid from USC. I do think it's looking pretty bright
in Cincinnati the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, and you add in four more.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Teams this year with Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah. Now,
obviously Arizona's the blue blood there. They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Arizona State, I have no idea. You know, Bobby Hurley.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Just continues to stay employed, which is always crazy to
me because I kind of think he squandered some talent.
I understand there's nil problems, administrative problems, so maybe he
deserves a little more credit.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But they're a mystery team.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And then Colorado lost pretty much everybody off their team
last year. Craig Smith at Utah, I do think he'll
have them, I think competitive in the Big Twelve. But
you look at you know how good this conference will be.
I don't know about those four new teams, with exception Arizona,
but I think Cincinnati could be a tournament team next year,
you know, if they can just grow a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. And with Colorado, they
haven't made like the world's most editions in the transfer portal.
They need to get a little bit more. But I
did like the pickup of under yeg Moski, So I
do think that there's going to be a little bit
of upside there. And I do think that now moving forward,
we're going to need to be paying a lot of
attention to what I think is going to be a
hot button topic of these NBA draft decisions, as Kobe Dan,
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who does such great workover at the Sports Gamley podcast
Network is joining me right here on Coast Coups because
I think that this year is just the most fascinating
year ever for these NBA draft decisions, because you take
a look at the landscape of things, it's as weak
of an NBA draft as I can remember since, like
what a decade ago when you had the gentleman from
un l V who went number one overall and it
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was just a mismash where you had a whole bunch
of guys like Alex lenn going in the top ten.
I think that that was either the twenty thirteen or
the twenty fourteen draft. That said, we just saw a
great Osa more get two million dollars out there in
the transfer portal, which shout out to great Osa bar
If you're going to get paid two million dollars, I
am not aiding on Great Osa war whatsoever. I'll question
the people I paid them. I will not throw any
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slander whatsoever Great osin bor If you could get the money,
you get the money. Absolutely. With that said, though, just
taking a look at the landscape of college basketball, these
guys like a Coleman Hawkins, like a Mark Sears, who
he's either going back to Alabama or he's going to
be saying the draft he's not going into the portal.
They have a lot of money to be made if
they go back to college, but at the same time,
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if they want to go pro, this is probably their
best year to be able to rise up the board
as well. So I think we're going to see a
lot of interesting decisions the next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, and I think it almost benefits you with it
being such a weak draft. Some of these guys that
I don't know, it's debatable now because of the nil.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Honestly, they have as good of options as anyone that's
ever been on the borderline for the NBA Draft before
because they've got so much potential to rise up the board.
And at the same time, guys are getting nil because
supply and demand in college basketball is so bad too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, And so it actually makes
it for a much harder decision than say, ten years ago,
where you just say, hey, I'll take my shout. No,
I'm not getting paid it all in college unless I'm
at you know, one of the programs cheating. But I
do think it's an interesting thing. What I wonder we
had talked about this a little bit on your other show.
But I wonder what this does to the market. Because
the portal opens back up again, I believe in early August,
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so I know that's late in the year for the
basketball season, the pending basketball season, practice and everything will
be starting in you know, late September and October. But
Osbar are getting that much money. You just wonder all
across college basketball. And I'm sure that there's probably other
examples that I probably don't know about from a financial
figure at the guard spot. But I wonder what that
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does to the market. Does some of the other players
that think they're better than great Osabar, Because look, I
like Greadosbar, and I'm not trying to throw shade on
the guy, but.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't think he's the best player in college basketball.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You have other players that could say, wait, he's getting
this much money, and you can kind of hold your
school hostage in a way of saying, I might be
able to find more money out there. It makes for
an interesting time period in college athletics, let alone college basketball.
But the player has leveraged now where they didn't before
in a way or at least, you know, above the table.
(22:04):
They didn't it's going to be fascinating to watch. I'm
keeping an eye on all those guys that potentially could
be in the draft.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is Caleb Love coming back.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
There's a few huge players that if they come back,
all of a sudden, the landscape of those teams go
in completely different directions.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah. Absolutely, there's going to be a lot of key
decisions to be made. Coleman Hawkins, Mark Sears are very
much top of mind for me. Any other ones that
are really catching your eye where you're just like, man,
if this guy decides that he's going to be coming
back to college, that'll either be a big addition for
the portal and or the school that he was coming from.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Poplar Yes, you know WILLI at the portal.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
That's another thing, is like we don't even know that
they're coming back to their team exactly. What about Walter
Clayton Junior who played really well. I thought that was
one that I was surprised how well he played when he.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Jumped up to the SEC. That to me is something
to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I mean another one because I don't believe Arthur Kolomba
has decided yet, right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
No, he has, he put himself in the portal.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He kind of didn't perform as well as I thought
he would last year. The year prior, I thought at
Creighton he was coming on, but he transfers to Kansas
State and they kind of had a down year with
Druam Tang. But I think he's a talented player that
could certainly help a lot of teams.
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Yep, I'm right there with you with Arthur Koaluoma, And
it was a case where that Kansas State program, they're
honestly pretty solid on defense, they just had no rhythm
whatsoever on offense. I felt like they were the team
that maybe waited the longest in terms of bringing guys
like ty Perry and company very very late in the process.
That probably hurt them with their chemistry a little bit more.
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So.
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We shall see what happens with that situation. But we've
always got great chemistry on this podcast and we always
get top out to perform from Yu Kobe. You do
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Oh, thank you man.
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Like where my heart is at.
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Me on the show.
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Greg.
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Always a great time.
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It is always great to be able to get Kobe aboard.
He does such an amazing job taking a look at
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so big thanks Sam for joinem and Lyons segment. Now
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is that time the podcast I give you a recap
of the news and oh so he saw in college
basketball on Saturday. We typically get a little bit less
college basketball news on the weekends than the weekdays here
in the offseason, but I do feel like this one
is a big one. Javan Blackshear Junior is going to
be getting an extra year of eligibility for Grand Canyon.
This is due to the fact that during the twenty
twenty two to twenty three season he was limited to
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twelve games. This past year he was coming off of
injury and you could tell that he wasn't himself. Still
shot about forty two percent from three parts for Grant Canyon,
but whereas he had been a starter in his first
four years on campus, last year he was coming off
the bench, he was only blogging about five points per contest.
After when he was at full force during the twenty
twenty one twenty two season, last fully healthy season from
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he was aftering four assists, a coal and a half
sixteen points per game, shooting thirty nine and a half
percent from three partrange. This is absolutely mammoth for a
Grand Canyon team that they've been able to do a
really nice job in the transfer portal. This has become
one of the best bag major programs in all of
college basketball. So we heard the news a little bit
over a week ago as well, going to be heading
on over to the WCC, which I think is going
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to be big for them. They bring back Rayshawn Harrison,
They bring in Jacobe Coles from TCU as well, so
you just take a look at this roster. It's becoming
all the more formidable. And they did have a nice
pickup on Saturday as well as they get Glenn Taylor
Junior into the fold, someone who began his career over
at Oregon State. Last season he was at Saint John's.
Wasn't necessarily his best, showing about four and a half
(26:29):
points per contest, so he proved that he was able
to shoot from three parrrangee stands right around six to six.
He shot north of forty percent from three part range
when he was in a little bit more of a
primary rollover at Oregon State during the twenty twenty two
to twenty three season, shot only about thirty one percent
from three, but was able to log about eleven and
a half points a little bit over two assists per contest.
Good versatility from He should be a really nice fit
(26:51):
for Grand Canyon and all in all a very nice
day for the antelopes out there, so yay verily for them.
Noah Waterman, he has decided that he is going to
be heading got over to Louisville in a case so
the rich just continue to get rich with and his
former coach at Mark Pope. He's also in the state
of Kentucky. But for Waterman, this guy has been around
for quite a long time. I think that he began
(27:12):
his career out there in the Metro Atlantic. I know
he spent some time with Detroit. He was at BYU
last year where shot thirty seven percent from three at
six but eleven nine and a half points five and
a half boards able as lock shots if you really
need him too. But he's a little bit more of
a stretch big man. But I mean this is very
big for that pett Kelsey style. Pat Kelsey absolutely love
these guys that are a little bit positionless and for Louisville,
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they did have to pretty much overhaul the entirety of
the roster, and chemistry is going to be a question
mark for them, as it's going to be for a
lot of teams that build through the portal. And this
is one of these cases where I always talk about
on the podcast, you don't necessarily want to be bringing
in one hundred million billion transfers when you're a guy
like Pat Kelse that is literally having nobody coming back
from the team a he sees to go for Louisville,
(27:55):
and there aren't a whole lot of guys that you
probably would have wanted to have back. Sure, sky Clark
was pretty solid for the team. Maybe you could have
maintained like Brandon Huntley Hatfield in a little bit of
a reserve role. But and so they were really Burrentha talent.
That was a very very bad era the last two
seasons a Louisville had to endure. But that said, you
just take a look at all these guys that they've
(28:16):
got coming in. It's just absolutely stacked. Terrence Edwards at
Primary score over at James Madison, Jevon Hadley a very
solid player at Colorado, Chuckie Eppurns a little bit of
an old at ice, but if you're able to get
a good system for him, that's gonna be big. Albocar
Troy Ore he was really nice at Long Beach State.
A few of Kelsey's guys, James Scott, Kobe Rodgers, Rainsmith,
they're following him from College of Charleston, Kashawan Pryors in
(28:37):
the fold as well. Corn Johnson. Like, my goodness, gracious,
they have done a tremendous shop here in the portal,
and I do think that they are going to be
very much a force to be wreckon with out there
in the ACC. Might not be on the same level
as like a duke or anything like that, but do
like what I'm seeing there. Justin Maddy. He was over
at James Vanderson this last season and he missed the
entirety of the twenty twenty three to twenty four season,
(28:59):
but in his previous season when he was fully healthy,
he was able log for James Mandison as a guy
that started quite a bit of his career there. He
started twenty one of thirty three games that season. He
was getting about five points just under four boards per contest.
He has decided that he is going to be heading
on over to Tulsa, and this is big for a
Tulsa program that they do lose quite a bit from
a season ago. They're losing PJ. Haggerty, who was that
(29:21):
top score that was logging north to twenty points per contest.
He's going to be within the conference. He's going to
be over at Memphis. So it's a little bit of
salt in the eye there. But that said, they're bringing
Braiden Carrington, who I wiked over at Minnesota. Guy that's
about popping from three. It's able to give you some
good production. Dwan Odam looks to be that do it
all guy that is going to be coming in for them.
He was over at Georgia State this last season, and Amadi,
(29:42):
I think is really going to be filling a great
need for the team. They needed a little bit more
down low. Not necessarily going to be like some primary
shoplock or anything like that, but when he was at
full force during the twenty twenty one twenty two season,
when he was a full type starter over at James
Madison nine a half points, five and a half boards
per contest, he's able to generate turnovers, not a guy
that's going to let him fly from three part range
or anything like that. But on all I do think
(30:04):
that this is a pretty solid pickup for Tulsa, and
I do think that they're going to probably need to
pick up a few other guys, but you know what,
I do think that that is going to be nice
for them. Niagara is going to be getting another transfer
in as well. Justice Smith last season was playing over
at etsu he has decided that he is going to
be heading on over to Niagara. Apparently, he was a
big time star over at Mansfield University. Was the Pea
(30:26):
Sack East Rookie of the Year during the twenty twenty
one twenty two season. Can't say that he was necessarily
lighting the world on fire when he was over at
East Tennessee State, but you know what he was able
to log this past year about four and a half
points per contest. Really saw his biggest triumph during the
twenty twenty two twenty three season one. He had seven
a half points shot thirty six percent from three part range.
As a relatively good versatility in that he's able to
(30:48):
generate about a seal per contest as well, six and
six Gentlemen that began is really life in general out
there in New York Mansfield, that's out there in the
northeast part of the country as well. In for Niagara,
I do think that they're going to need to take
on a little bit. They have a different identity. They're
a team that very much chucked it from three point range,
which it's Greg polis is coaching up the team so
very much just as a man that knows guard play.
(31:08):
But you know what, with Niagara, even though there are
three point shooting should be down a little bit this year.
They were also a little bit down in terms of
their defense. I do think that that's going to be
able to resurface a little bit. Etsu has always been
a relatively rock solid defense. They're bringing in some like
a Zion Russell from Northern Illinois. I think it's a
little bit of an upside guy. Jalen Martinez should be
able to help out down low as well. Jaden Marshall
is a pretty solid shooter that comes in from Oma
(31:31):
as well. Again, I do think that the overall shooting
is going to be down for the scene. But if
you can have Josiah Davis be sort of the straw
that serves a drink for this offense. I do think
that they're going to be in solid shape. And it's
one of those coaches in greg Polis that I am
always very willing to give the benefit of the doubt too.
And how about this for Mark Byington, I don't know
if Vanderbilt is going to be able to stay healthy
(31:51):
because I actually, coming out of college, I had a
first job that was with the official flight ship station
of the Vanderbilt Commodores. I can tell you all about
the history of this program. Ever since the Darius Garland days,
they just have not had a roster that has been
fully healthy. Davis cymble talent has been able to say
out there on the court, knock on whatever my microphone
is sitting on. It's a like a little wooden table
(32:13):
that has not the case of the season. But they
pick up aj Hogard in the transfer portal, absolutely massive
for this Vanderbilt team. Mark Byington is doing a tremendous
job in the portal. They've already got Tyler Nickel coming
in from Virginia Tech. Guy that's ables struck it from
three now. I don't think Mark Byington is going to
be able to play quite the up tempo style that
he did while he was over at James Madison. James
(32:34):
Madison was playing with their hair on fire. You're bringing
a guy in aj Hogard, which Michigan State not necessarily
running in and gunning at. Jason Edwards was over at
North Texas as their top scorer. Another team that was
a very slow grand Hoffman was over at Davidson Siler team,
Devin McLoughlin mid tempo team over at Boston College. That
is a one gripe that I have in terms of
the guys that he's brought in. I don't think that
(32:55):
they're going to be able to maintain that same level
of tempo that he had when it was over at
g Assin, But this is a guy that's able to
dole it out, no doubt about it. Ten and a
half points, five point two assists for contests and Frogart
took strides forward with his three point shooting last year,
shot about thirty five percent from three points, become a
little bit more of a complete guard, makes good decisions
with the ball, doesn't turn it over a ton, very
(33:16):
very big time move for Vanderbilt, and I do like
what they are building over there, you've got Jordan Nesbit
who has decided that he's going to be adding on
over to Wyoming. Sundan Ands Wicks has not been shy
about the transfer portal, as they also landed Cole Henry,
who was a part of UW. Green Bay in northern Iowa. Now,
I can't say that Cole Henry is necessarily going to
be lighting the world on fire for the seam. He's
a six fo nine big man that last season under
(33:38):
Sunday and Twicks he had about three points in assists
and a half for contest. He's going to be probably
a little bit more of a chemistry guy, someone that's like, hey,
here's what Sundan and Twicks does. But as we know
with Wicks, he was with at Wyoming program just two
seasons ago, so there is still quite a bit of
familiarity there. There are guys that I'm sure that he recruited.
They are still at Wyoming. We shall see how much
you're going to lose to the transfer portal, because when
(33:59):
you do have a coaching change like this, you do
have thirty days to decide if you were going to
be entering the portal or if you are going to
be saying put. But came back to Nesbit fell with
a little bit of injury last season over at Hampton,
had a little bit of a rough start to the season,
but still finished up with ten and a half points,
five boards, four point three assists per contest. His best
year came during the twenty twenty two twenty three campaign
(34:20):
fifteen points six bors, about three and a half assists
per contest. Began his career over at Memphis, and for
Jordan Nesbit, out of almost necessity, he had to become
pretty much a six foot six facilitator of the ball
last season, so that was him playing out of position.
And you did notice with Nesbit he was just very
much banged up towards beginning part of the season. He
could not get it going to save his life. First,
(34:40):
I would say ten or so games of the season.
So if you look at everything from January eleventh on,
and he did pills a little bit with a thud,
but from January eleventh on, those final eighteen games of
the season more like eleven and a half points, five boards,
four point seven assists per contests and should have well
from three, he only shot about twenty six a half
percent from three point inch, so why only probably not
going to be team that's going to be going absolute
(35:01):
taggers from three point range. That said, I do think
that he's going to be able to help out this
program six fit six, versatile piece set Wyoming he really
needs for Wyoming. I do think that it's probably going
to be a little bit of a rough year for them,
just with all the transition that they've got. That said,
I do think that Sundance Wakes if anyone is able
to build something on the fly, I do think that
it is going to be him, And just having already
coach over at Wyoming, I think is going to be
(35:24):
also a big key Last season, Darien Baker was over
at Akron for the old Zips, and he has decided
that he's going to be going to SIU Edwardsville. For Edwardsville,
it's been all about the right brothers the last few seasons,
so they're gonna have a little bit of a changing
of the guard here. And for Baker, he was a
red shirt guy last season over at Akron, so we
don't know quite what his fullest skill set is. He
(35:45):
was someone that, according to four to seven Sports, was
a top three and recruit coming out of high school
just was not able to get out there on the
floor in general. And I do think that's going to
be intriguing what he is going to be able to
bring to the table. As for se Edwardsville, they're taking
a little bit of swing here, and in most years
they've been a little bit more of a defense oriented team.
Lance year, that defensive approach it really did fall down
(36:05):
the toilet bo both with all the guys that they've
had leaving by the transfer portal, they're probably going to
need to get back sort of in rhythm with that regard.
But Fresvye Weddersville it's been a team has been relatively
silent here in the transfer portal. You can tell that
they need to get something going. I think that this
is going to be a very nice ad for them,
and we shall see some of the other pieces moving
forward for them, and if they do decide to harken
(36:27):
back to the old days when they had some success
two seasons a going do decide that they are going
to be going a little bit more defense oriented. An
additional note for Jovon black Chair as well, who was
over at Grank Canyon this last season, he is going
to be in the transfer portal. So I saw a
gig about Grand Canyon and the fact that oh they
were getting Jovon black Cheer back to Fold. They might
still be getting him back to the Fold. The falls
the option to be able to come back. That said,
(36:49):
he is now in the transfer portal as well, And
as I've been saying with regards to the transfer portal rules,
it's very very interesting. It was supposed to flouse on
May first. I think that there's going to be a
point where it reopens as well. So thanks for things
to be very very hairy there. But that's that Trevon
Blacksher He is in the transfer portal. Just to clear
that up. And the objective of this show is very clear,
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work over at the Sports Family podcast Network. We're gonna
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last week or two in college basketball. Some of the
teams have done a nice job in the transfer portal.
We're certainly gonna be touching a little bit on the
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Big twelve, but have to dive in on everything that
we've seen over at UW. Green Bay this past week
with our good friend Doug Gottlieb getting hired over there,
and couple that with the fact that we are seeing
record amount of NIL money going to these guys that
are still there in the transfer portal. I think that
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that five star review. And I already did the interview,
so I know it's going to be coming. But spontaneously
when I ask our good friend Kobe about what we've
all seen over at UW Green Bay, he's gonna throw
out there something very interesting in that. Part of the
reason why U to B Green Bay might be making
this hire could be perhaps have Doug Gottlieb as a
(01:31):
little bit more of a figurehead for the university. Meanwhile,
you've got someone in Jordan McCabe, who you may remember.
He was a rock solid player in college, played a
little bit at UNLV, played a little bit over for
West Virginia as well as actually a guy.
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From the area.
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He's from Kokona, Wisconsin for those that know Wisconsin me
or miles away from Green Bay. They could have him
being a little bit more of a guy that is
doing a lot of the legwork. Meanwhile, Doug Gottlieb, he's
more of the face of the organization. I would not
I want to call it like a figure out. I
think that would be going a little bit too far.
But certainly a little bit more of the face I
think is the best way of being able to put it.
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I do think that it is so interesting because I
do think that the letters ABC, which for those that
know in college basketball and college sports in general, that
means always be crutin. I do think that it is
taking on a little bit of a different shall we say,
tenor And it's really going even further because we're seeing
this new nil tournament that's going to be busting out.
That's certainly one that has been capturing a live attention.
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We've got schools that were going from very very good
tournaments like I think that Creatin pulled out of I
might be wrong on this one, but the battle for
Atlanta is to be taking part in this new nil
tournament that's going to be going on, and it does
feel like this same age of college basketball is causing
teams to recruit in different ways. This could be a
way of recruiting because the one thing that I was
(02:50):
mentioning when Doug Godlee was hired over at UW Green
Bay with you, Doug Gottlieb, he did have the highest
ceiling of any of these coaches that were up for
the job. Now he also has by far the lowest floor.
And I will still stand by it. I think that
this is more likely to bus than it is to
be a success. I'm not gonna say it's one hundred
percent going to be a bus because we have yet
to see a playoff. Do I think it's going to
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be successful. No, But there's a world where Doug Gottlieb
has a very very good run of things. He gets
in way more talent than we could ever believe. You
got guys like Jordan McCabe who are very smart that
they put the wheels in motion in ap it works
out for EW Green Bay. That's not the most far
fetched of things that we've ever seen. Like we've already
seen a fifteen seed make the Elite eight here in
(03:33):
the last few years, so I'm pretty much anything in
college basketball is possible, but I do think that things
are just taking out a little bit more of a
life of their own. When it comes to the letters
ABC with always be Creudon, and I do think the
teams are getting more and more creative with it. And
like with UW Green Bay, I'm talking about it right now,
I'm a schmuck for this story because it's something that
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we've never truly seen before. Perhaps that was a little
bit of the angle for UW Green Bay making this higher.
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Speaker 1 (06:38):
T back movie Blasvegas.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But that's because with myself, Greg Ebsteters and now by
the Vson Family Podcast, it is always great to be
joined by this vand as Kobe Dan, he does absolutely
tremendous workover at the Sports Family Podcast Network taking a
look at this great game of basketball that we all
know and love. He much like myself, follows it all
three are and sixty five days of the year in
a normal year, but as we know, this is so
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three hundred and sixty six days of the year. No
days off for Kobe, no days off for myself. He
does an absolutely amazing job with the College Experience taking
a look at a little bit of everything college basketball,
college football. I don't that they're delving into some college
baseball as well. Always fun there and you're a be
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Be Altogether in Kobe as much my friend.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Thank you, Oh thanks for having me. Greg.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Always a pleasure to come on your show and always
great because I know your knowledge is infinite when it
comes to college hoops, so it's always great, you know.
I know we both love this game, and there's not
many I feel like that we can just talk pretty
much every team in the country. So I really respect
your work and I love coming here on your show.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I love having you o bar because you do a
great job looking at the biggest of the big schools
and the smallest of the small and typically this is
not a school that's getting a lot of buzz in
mid May. But with W Green Bay, if nothing else,
they've created a lot of shall we say media. I'm
not saying it's the world's greatest media, but as they
always say, oh press is good, press times and UW
(08:01):
Green Bay they hire on Doug Gottliebu is going to
be continuing it's nationally syndicated radio show over at Fox
while he coaches up UW. Green Bay. Do want to
get your thoughts here, because if I am looking from
UW Green Bay side of things, the one thing I
will say is, out of all the candidates, if you're
looking for the absolute highest of high upsides out of
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all of them, Doug Gottlie does have that. But also
if you're looking for the lowest of lower floors, and
if you're looking for the one that is least likely
to be successful, also thank you also land on Doug GOTTLIEB.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean this I think was the most shocking
hire of the entire officers.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And I must have missed this last year. This almost
happened last year.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I heard, you know, because Sundance Wicks was only there
one year and now he goes back to Wyoming where
he used to be.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I did not see that last year.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Maybe it wasn't the headline, so I mean you got
to be close to the program maybe to.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Know that, but I didn't catch it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And then when this happened, I was like, what, No,
he played ball at Oklahoma State and I think he
played a little pro in some Europeans leagues, and obviously
I'm familiar with his work from you know, CBS and
Fox and ESPN.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Over the years.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But the fact that you're going to balance that because
I don't know about you, but the coaches I've talked
to in college basketball and college football on our show
over the past couple of years. I mean, I just
had Dan Hawkins on This Was Football, you know, he
just retired this offseason. He was just like, man, the
transfer portal, everything, it's relentless. And I've heard it the
same with college basketball coaches that we've talked to. Obviously,
my co host on The College Basketball Experience is close
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to Frank Martin and Bob Hoggins and a slew of
other coaches that are in the game. You know, he
always recites to me what they're saying is like, this
is an endless job.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Right now. Your team could leave any time.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You have to constantly check in with your own roster,
let alone be searching for talent out there to think
you can do that and then and then juggle your
three hour talk radio show. And I also heard he's
contractually obligated to an hour long podcast too. I'm not
sure if that's the actual show or if that's but
still I commend him for wanting to do that much
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work in one regard, But I just don't know from
a university standpoint if that makes a lot of sense
to hire someone like that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. You want someone that's
going to be all in. And I do feel like
he puts himself in a rough situation as well, because,
as we know, in this day and age with regards
to sports media, there's more and more talk around sports betting,
sports gambling, and well, I think that you should be
able to get away with it when it comes to
like NFL props. But I'm where do you draw the
(10:27):
line there? That's a sticky situation for one, and for two,
if he's not talking enough about say like the NFL,
the NBA, what have you, he's doing a disservice to
his show. Meanwhile, if he's talking like as if he
was able to catch you entirely, like but in a
football game or anything like that, it's like, shouldn't you
be studying tape of your own team instead? But after
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you guys got blasted by thirty points against right State.
So I feel like he puts himself in a really
bad spot where it's like, gosh, darned if you do
and darned if you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And even worse is you look at the Green Bay
Packers within his home state.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now you know, if they started winning and he's got
to cover that on the show.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And he's talking about that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's like, let alone the same city that your university resides,
and you're gonna be saying, hey, you know what, are
you paying more attention to the Packers or your basketball program?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It seems like a slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now, I did see he retained Jordan McCabe as an
assistant coach. He was an assistant under Sundance Wicks. Now
that's an interesting one in my opinion, if I was
Green Bay, I would have looked potentially into actually hiring Jeorgan.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Cave is actually a Wisconsin guy as well, from Kakada, Wisconsin.
We are miles away from Green Bay, So I actually
like that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
My point is is like, why wouldn't you just hire
him as the head go Maybe this is something where
Gottlieb will be the CEO in a way and McCabe's
gonna do.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
The grunt of the work.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Maybe, you know, like if this thing hits Greg, Let's
say gott Leeb's successful and they win a couple of
Horizon League championships, or maybe they just you know, have
some winning seasons there like Sundance Wicks did last year.
Will this be a common theme though, because another thing
is it could bring press. It's bringing the press right now,
me and you talking about it. But let alone the
fact that he's on air every day. I wonder if
(12:05):
he'll promote his own program, because that's an interesting angle.
It's almost like the Deon Sanders thing of having the
camera crew follow you around at Colorado. I don't know
that it's ever been proven to be successful. I mean,
Dion will be I think one. We're all watching this fall.
But maybe that's an angle to get eyeballs to increase
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the value of your university.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Maybe I'm grasping at straws perhaps, but what do you
think about that angle?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's so interesting because he is going to be talking
much more about Rizon League basketball than darn near anyone
else in terms of the spotlight that he has, other
than perhaps myself in terms of College fast Well, which
has a good thing, and that's going to be Alpell
hop out UW Green Bay. And I do think that
what you bring up, if you have Jordan McCabe doing
a lot of the work and Doug Gotlin, for lack
(12:52):
of a better term, is a little bit more of a figurehead,
I do think that that's something that could be able
to work out as well. That's that I have a
lot of questions. It's just something that is unprecedented, so
it's hard to say that automatically it's not going to work. Personally,
I think that it's less likely to work than it does.
But as I was alluding to as well, I do
think that there might be a higher upside with this
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than anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So, no question about it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's going to be wild times out there at the
Horizon legas it's always wild times when we've got Kobe
Dant on the show. He does great work over the
Sports Gambley podcast. We're trying to be right here on
costc soups, and certainly it's spent wild times in the
transfer portal as well. And with everything that we've been
talking about with Doug Gottlieb, what have you. I feel
like the news of TCU from a few days ago
has really flown under the radar. They're bringing in Tarzarian White,
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a nineteen point per game score over at UNC one
wet and a guy that's six foot six, six foot
seven is able to pop it from three. It was
a TCU team that lost a lot from last season,
and I felt like that was a big move that
went under the radar with everything else that we saw
this past week, including Great Osbor having that record signing
as well, And I think that that's just the way
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that TCU likes it because that I felt like was
a big ad for them for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And TCU though, has.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Kind of been I think a little ahead of the
curve in the portal the past couple of years. They've
had key guys, whether it was Jami or Nelson Junior
who I feel like they got someone the year before
that to him drawing a blank on, but they have
been kind of transferred you in a way when it
comes to basketball. Jamie Dixon certainly ahead of the times.
I would say were ahead of the curve.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Jamie Dixon's obviously a good coach. He puts a winning
product on the court pretty much every year. I think
only once at TCU as he had a losing record,
and at PITT I don't believe he did if memory
shares me correct. But they've been a strange team because
I've thought the past two college basketball seasons, specifically those
two he's made the tournament three straight years, but specifically
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the past two there's been moments in January where I say, man,
TCU's so talented. This looks like a Final four team
to me, or like this could be one. Maybe I'd
take a shot on them, a future on them. But
for some reason, it seems like they hit their peak
mid season and down the stretch they have just a
lot of struggles.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I know two years ago they had some injuries and
Eddie Lampkin had left the team, But even last year
I thought that team was super talented. I was shocked
that got eliminated, didn't even advance past the first round.
But as far as the portal, he brought in Frankie
Collins from Arizona State too, and Noah Reynolds, speaking of
Green Bay Nicks, those two with White. Actually I went
to a game at UNC Wilmington last year. That guy's
a stud. It'll be interesting to see how he performs
(15:27):
on the Big twelve level. But I think it's a
great get. He went in and brought in r. J.
Jones from Kansas State and Brandon Wenzel from Wyoming. They've
been very active in the portal. The question is and
you quickly get everyone to play together. I know they
also returned a couple guys from last year's roster that
should keep their fan base excited. So I mean, yes,
great job going to get them, but I just keep
(15:48):
wondering what is stopping them that to me, both their
teams the past two years, without question, to me, should
have been Sweet sixteen teams and they weren't. So in
that regard, I'm a bit, you know, concerned about Jamie Dixon.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Can you find a way.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't want to say he's on the hot seat
because he never has a losing season and TCU wasn't
really relevant, you know, prior to him, not since the
days of Kurt Thomas.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So great job in the portal. Let's see if it
works again.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm sure in January me and you will be having
this conversation and.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I go, they look like the best team in the nation. Maybe,
but they got to figure it out to me in March.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
In February, yep, absolutely, And then near miss against Arizona
a few years ago as well, that was a bit
of a heartbreaker for them as well. But I do
like what I'm seeing out of them, and I have
to say, in terms of the Big Twelve, I love
what I'm seeing from Cincinnati as well as we did
see late on Friday. Jill Mitchell, a five star guy,
a guy that was solid at Texas. I'm not gonna
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say he was like some sort of a dominator or
anything like that, but very solid at Texas. He's gonna
be heading on over to Cincinnati. And I just look
at the depth of the Big twelve once again this year,
and sure, maybe a team like a Central Florida might
be having a little bit of a down year, but
I'm just looking one through sixteen at this conference and
I'm seeing a voaded conference with Cincinnati once again perhaps
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being one of those teams that might be a little
bit towards the middle slash bottom half of the conference,
but really like what they've been able to do. And
I feel like Wes Miller, who did a great job
bringing in a bunch of banks rebounders last season, he's
looking to run that style back once again and being
able to bringing a guy like a Dyllan Mitchell well,
while they're once again dominant on guy as much like
they were a season to go.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, and to me, looking back at last season, I
was a little more bullish I think than the national
media on BYU, which turned out to be correct. But
out of the teams that came in. We knew Houston
would be fine. We knew Houston was can be fine.
You know, I hadn't been sold on West Miller, and
last year I kind of got sold on him. I know,
it still wasn't the season that Cincinnati Bearcat fans won,
but they were much more competitive in the Big Twelve
(17:46):
than I thought potentially they could be. You know, two
years ago and the year prior to that, I was
not sold on him as the higher at Cincinnati. And
now I think after this past season where they lost
a lot of close games, they played a lot of
good teams, a lot of the stronger teams in the
Big Twelve, I thought they played really well.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I remember that Texas game.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I feel like they should have got Texas to land
Mitchell I think is huge. They also got Paige the
kid from USC. I do think it's looking pretty bright
in Cincinnati the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, and you add in four more.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Teams this year with Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah. Now,
obviously Arizona's the blue blood there. They'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Arizona State, I have no idea. You know, Bobby Hurley.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Just continues to stay employed, which is always crazy to
me because I kind of think he squandered some talent.
I understand there's nil problems, administrative problems, so maybe he
deserves a little more credit.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But they're a mystery team.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And then Colorado lost pretty much everybody off their team
last year. Craig Smith at Utah, I do think he'll
have them, I think competitive in the Big Twelve. But
you look at you know how good this conference will be.
I don't know about those four new teams, with exception Arizona,
but I think Cincinnati could be a tournament team next year,
you know, if they can just grow a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. And with Colorado, they
haven't made like the world's most editions in the transfer portal.
They need to get a little bit more. But I
did like the pickup of under yeg Moski, So I
do think that there's going to be a little bit
of upside there. And I do think that now moving forward,
we're going to need to be paying a lot of
attention to what I think is going to be a
hot button topic of these NBA draft decisions, as Kobe Dan,
(19:14):
who does such great workover at the Sports Gamley podcast
Network is joining me right here on Coast Coups because
I think that this year is just the most fascinating
year ever for these NBA draft decisions, because you take
a look at the landscape of things, it's as weak
of an NBA draft as I can remember since, like
what a decade ago when you had the gentleman from
un l V who went number one overall and it
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was just a mismash where you had a whole bunch
of guys like Alex lenn going in the top ten.
I think that that was either the twenty thirteen or
the twenty fourteen draft. That said, we just saw a
great Osa more get two million dollars out there in
the transfer portal, which shout out to great Osa bar
If you're going to get paid two million dollars, I
am not aiding on Great Osa war whatsoever. I'll question
the people I paid them. I will not throw any
(19:59):
slander whatsoever Great osin bor If you could get the money,
you get the money. Absolutely. With that said, though, just
taking a look at the landscape of college basketball, these
guys like a Coleman Hawkins, like a Mark Sears, who
he's either going back to Alabama or he's going to
be saying the draft he's not going into the portal.
They have a lot of money to be made if
they go back to college, but at the same time,
(20:20):
if they want to go pro, this is probably their
best year to be able to rise up the board
as well. So I think we're going to see a
lot of interesting decisions the next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, and I think it almost benefits you with it
being such a weak draft. Some of these guys that
I don't know, it's debatable now because of the nil.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Honestly, they have as good of options as anyone that's
ever been on the borderline for the NBA Draft before
because they've got so much potential to rise up the board.
And at the same time, guys are getting nil because
supply and demand in college basketball is so bad too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, And so it actually makes
it for a much harder decision than say, ten years ago,
where you just say, hey, I'll take my shout. No,
I'm not getting paid it all in college unless I'm
at you know, one of the programs cheating. But I
do think it's an interesting thing. What I wonder we
had talked about this a little bit on your other show.
But I wonder what this does to the market. Because
the portal opens back up again, I believe in early August,
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so I know that's late in the year for the
basketball season, the pending basketball season, practice and everything will
be starting in you know, late September and October. But
Osbar are getting that much money. You just wonder all
across college basketball. And I'm sure that there's probably other
examples that I probably don't know about from a financial
figure at the guard spot. But I wonder what that
(21:35):
does to the market. Does some of the other players
that think they're better than great Osabar, Because look, I
like Greadosbar, and I'm not trying to throw shade on
the guy, but.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't think he's the best player in college basketball.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You have other players that could say, wait, he's getting
this much money, and you can kind of hold your
school hostage in a way of saying, I might be
able to find more money out there. It makes for
an interesting time period in college athletics, let alone college basketball.
But the player has leveraged now where they didn't before
in a way or at least, you know, above the table.
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They didn't it's going to be fascinating to watch. I'm
keeping an eye on all those guys that potentially could
be in the draft.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is Caleb Love coming back.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
There's a few huge players that if they come back,
all of a sudden, the landscape of those teams go
in completely different directions.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah. Absolutely, there's going to be a lot of key
decisions to be made. Coleman Hawkins, Mark Sears are very
much top of mind for me. Any other ones that
are really catching your eye where you're just like, man,
if this guy decides that he's going to be coming
back to college, that'll either be a big addition for
the portal and or the school that he was coming from.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Poplar Yes, you know WILLI at the portal.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
That's another thing, is like we don't even know that
they're coming back to their team exactly. What about Walter
Clayton Junior who played really well. I thought that was
one that I was surprised how well he played when he.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Jumped up to the SEC. That to me is something
to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I mean another one because I don't believe Arthur Kolomba
has decided yet, right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
No, he has, he put himself in the portal.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He kind of didn't perform as well as I thought
he would last year. The year prior, I thought at
Creighton he was coming on, but he transfers to Kansas
State and they kind of had a down year with
Druam Tang. But I think he's a talented player that
could certainly help a lot of teams.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yep, I'm right there with you with Arthur Koaluoma, And
it was a case where that Kansas State program, they're
honestly pretty solid on defense, they just had no rhythm
whatsoever on offense. I felt like they were the team
that maybe waited the longest in terms of bringing guys
like ty Perry and company very very late in the process.
That probably hurt them with their chemistry a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We shall see what happens with that situation. But we've
always got great chemistry on this podcast and we always
get top out to perform from Yu Kobe. You do
amazing workover at the Sports Gampling podcast that works so
well to get people at home. No, it's all on
to for you and how people can fall along on
social media and other platforms.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Oh, thank you man.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I'm on Twitter at the Colby D I host the
college football and college basketball and college baseball experience, so
those are always.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Like where my heart is at.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I also do host you know, some spring football stuff
UFL Gambling Podcast, CFL Gambling Podcast, but my heart's always
with college sports, so always year round we're talking college football,
college basketball, college baseball. So go check out that how
accounts on Twitter as hece on SGPN, and I appreciate
you having.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Me on the show.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Always a great time.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It is always great to be able to get Kobe aboard.
He does such an amazing job taking a look at
this great game that we all know and love of
college basketball. So big thanks aam for joining me right
here on Heaps not part of the Visa family podcasts
and coming get back because it is that time the
podcast they give me a round up of hes enough
so we saw talk basketball for the last week for
hours for regular bove me Buss Vegas for Gus Go
(24:43):
Seeps with myself, Greg EAPs Peters and now part of
the Vison family and podcasts. Always a pleasure to be
joined by Kobe Dat, who does an absolutely tremendous job
over at the Sports Gambling podcast Network. He does an
amazing job taking a look at this great game that
we all know in love of college basketball, and every
single time he joins the show win such good insights,
so big thanks Sam for joinem and Lyons segment. Now
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is that time the podcast I give you a recap
of the news and oh so he saw in college
basketball on Saturday. We typically get a little bit less
college basketball news on the weekends than the weekdays here
in the offseason, but I do feel like this one
is a big one. Javan Blackshear Junior is going to
be getting an extra year of eligibility for Grand Canyon.
This is due to the fact that during the twenty
twenty two to twenty three season he was limited to
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twelve games. This past year he was coming off of
injury and you could tell that he wasn't himself. Still
shot about forty two percent from three parts for Grant Canyon,
but whereas he had been a starter in his first
four years on campus, last year he was coming off
the bench, he was only blogging about five points per contest.
After when he was at full force during the twenty
twenty one twenty two season, last fully healthy season from
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he was aftering four assists, a coal and a half
sixteen points per game, shooting thirty nine and a half
percent from three partrange. This is absolutely mammoth for a
Grand Canyon team that they've been able to do a
really nice job in the transfer portal. This has become
one of the best bag major programs in all of
college basketball. So we heard the news a little bit
over a week ago as well, going to be heading
on over to the WCC, which I think is going
(26:07):
to be big for them. They bring back Rayshawn Harrison,
They bring in Jacobe Coles from TCU as well, so
you just take a look at this roster. It's becoming
all the more formidable. And they did have a nice
pickup on Saturday as well as they get Glenn Taylor
Junior into the fold, someone who began his career over
at Oregon State. Last season he was at Saint John's.
Wasn't necessarily his best, showing about four and a half
(26:29):
points per contest, so he proved that he was able
to shoot from three parrrangee stands right around six to six.
He shot north of forty percent from three part range
when he was in a little bit more of a
primary rollover at Oregon State during the twenty twenty two
to twenty three season, shot only about thirty one percent
from three, but was able to log about eleven and
a half points a little bit over two assists per contest.
Good versatility from He should be a really nice fit
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for Grand Canyon and all in all a very nice
day for the antelopes out there, so yay verily for them.
Noah Waterman, he has decided that he is going to
be heading got over to Louisville in a case so
the rich just continue to get rich with and his
former coach at Mark Pope. He's also in the state
of Kentucky. But for Waterman, this guy has been around
for quite a long time. I think that he began
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his career out there in the Metro Atlantic. I know
he spent some time with Detroit. He was at BYU
last year where shot thirty seven percent from three at
six but eleven nine and a half points five and
a half boards able as lock shots if you really
need him too. But he's a little bit more of
a stretch big man. But I mean this is very
big for that pett Kelsey style. Pat Kelsey absolutely love
these guys that are a little bit positionless and for Louisville,
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they did have to pretty much overhaul the entirety of
the roster, and chemistry is going to be a question
mark for them, as it's going to be for a
lot of teams that build through the portal. And this
is one of these cases where I always talk about
on the podcast, you don't necessarily want to be bringing
in one hundred million billion transfers when you're a guy
like Pat Kelse that is literally having nobody coming back
from the team a he sees to go for Louisville,
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and there aren't a whole lot of guys that you
probably would have wanted to have back. Sure, sky Clark
was pretty solid for the team. Maybe you could have
maintained like Brandon Huntley Hatfield in a little bit of
a reserve role. But and so they were really Burrentha talent.
That was a very very bad era the last two
seasons a Louisville had to endure. But that said, you
just take a look at all these guys that they've
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got coming in. It's just absolutely stacked. Terrence Edwards at
Primary score over at James Madison, Jevon Hadley a very
solid player at Colorado, Chuckie Eppurns a little bit of
an old at ice, but if you're able to get
a good system for him, that's gonna be big. Albocar
Troy Ore he was really nice at Long Beach State.
A few of Kelsey's guys, James Scott, Kobe Rodgers, Rainsmith,
they're following him from College of Charleston, Kashawan Pryors in
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the fold as well. Corn Johnson. Like, my goodness, gracious,
they have done a tremendous shop here in the portal,
and I do think that they are going to be
very much a force to be wreckon with out there
in the ACC. Might not be on the same level
as like a duke or anything like that, but do
like what I'm seeing there. Justin Maddy. He was over
at James Vanderson this last season and he missed the
entirety of the twenty twenty three to twenty four season,
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but in his previous season when he was fully healthy,
he was able log for James Mandison as a guy
that started quite a bit of his career there. He
started twenty one of thirty three games that season. He
was getting about five points just under four boards per contest.
He has decided that he is going to be heading
on over to Tulsa, and this is big for a
Tulsa program that they do lose quite a bit from
a season ago. They're losing PJ. Haggerty, who was that
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top score that was logging north to twenty points per contest.
He's going to be within the conference. He's going to
be over at Memphis. So it's a little bit of
salt in the eye there. But that said, they're bringing
Braiden Carrington, who I wiked over at Minnesota. Guy that's
about popping from three. It's able to give you some
good production. Dwan Odam looks to be that do it
all guy that is going to be coming in for them.
He was over at Georgia State this last season, and Amadi,
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I think is really going to be filling a great
need for the team. They needed a little bit more
down low. Not necessarily going to be like some primary
shoplock or anything like that, but when he was at
full force during the twenty twenty one twenty two season,
when he was a full type starter over at James
Madison nine a half points, five and a half boards
per contest, he's able to generate turnovers, not a guy
that's going to let him fly from three part range
or anything like that. But on all I do think
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that this is a pretty solid pickup for Tulsa, and
I do think that they're going to probably need to
pick up a few other guys, but you know what,
I do think that that is going to be nice
for them. Niagara is going to be getting another transfer
in as well. Justice Smith last season was playing over
at etsu he has decided that he is going to
be heading on over to Niagara. Apparently, he was a
big time star over at Mansfield University. Was the Pea
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Sack East Rookie of the Year during the twenty twenty
one twenty two season. Can't say that he was necessarily
lighting the world on fire when he was over at
East Tennessee State, but you know what he was able
to log this past year about four and a half
points per contest. Really saw his biggest triumph during the
twenty twenty two twenty three season one. He had seven
a half points shot thirty six percent from three part range.
As a relatively good versatility in that he's able to
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generate about a seal per contest as well, six and
six Gentlemen that began is really life in general out
there in New York Mansfield, that's out there in the
northeast part of the country as well. In for Niagara,
I do think that they're going to need to take
on a little bit. They have a different identity. They're
a team that very much chucked it from three point range,
which it's Greg polis is coaching up the team so
very much just as a man that knows guard play.
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But you know what, with Niagara, even though there are
three point shooting should be down a little bit this year.
They were also a little bit down in terms of
their defense. I do think that that's going to be
able to resurface a little bit. Etsu has always been
a relatively rock solid defense. They're bringing in some like
a Zion Russell from Northern Illinois. I think it's a
little bit of an upside guy. Jalen Martinez should be
able to help out down low as well. Jaden Marshall
is a pretty solid shooter that comes in from Oma
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as well. Again, I do think that the overall shooting
is going to be down for the scene. But if
you can have Josiah Davis be sort of the straw
that serves a drink for this offense. I do think
that they're going to be in solid shape. And it's
one of those coaches in greg Polis that I am
always very willing to give the benefit of the doubt too.
And how about this for Mark Byington, I don't know
if Vanderbilt is going to be able to stay healthy
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because I actually, coming out of college, I had a
first job that was with the official flight ship station
of the Vanderbilt Commodores. I can tell you all about
the history of this program. Ever since the Darius Garland days,
they just have not had a roster that has been
fully healthy. Davis cymble talent has been able to say
out there on the court, knock on whatever my microphone
is sitting on. It's a like a little wooden table
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that has not the case of the season. But they
pick up aj Hogard in the transfer portal, absolutely massive
for this Vanderbilt team. Mark Byington is doing a tremendous
job in the portal. They've already got Tyler Nickel coming
in from Virginia Tech. Guy that's ables struck it from
three now. I don't think Mark Byington is going to
be able to play quite the up tempo style that
he did while he was over at James Madison. James
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Madison was playing with their hair on fire. You're bringing
a guy in aj Hogard, which Michigan State not necessarily
running in and gunning at. Jason Edwards was over at
North Texas as their top scorer. Another team that was
a very slow grand Hoffman was over at Davidson Siler team,
Devin McLoughlin mid tempo team over at Boston College. That
is a one gripe that I have in terms of
the guys that he's brought in. I don't think that
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they're going to be able to maintain that same level
of tempo that he had when it was over at
g Assin, But this is a guy that's able to
dole it out, no doubt about it. Ten and a
half points, five point two assists for contests and Frogart
took strides forward with his three point shooting last year,
shot about thirty five percent from three points, become a
little bit more of a complete guard, makes good decisions
with the ball, doesn't turn it over a ton, very
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very big time move for Vanderbilt, and I do like
what they are building over there, you've got Jordan Nesbit
who has decided that he's going to be adding on
over to Wyoming. Sundan Ands Wicks has not been shy
about the transfer portal, as they also landed Cole Henry,
who was a part of UW. Green Bay in northern Iowa. Now,
I can't say that Cole Henry is necessarily going to
be lighting the world on fire for the seam. He's
a six fo nine big man that last season under
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Sunday and Twicks he had about three points in assists
and a half for contest. He's going to be probably
a little bit more of a chemistry guy, someone that's like, hey,
here's what Sundan and Twicks does. But as we know
with Wicks, he was with at Wyoming program just two
seasons ago, so there is still quite a bit of
familiarity there. There are guys that I'm sure that he recruited.
They are still at Wyoming. We shall see how much
you're going to lose to the transfer portal, because when
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you do have a coaching change like this, you do
have thirty days to decide if you were going to
be entering the portal or if you are going to
be saying put. But came back to Nesbit fell with
a little bit of injury last season over at Hampton,
had a little bit of a rough start to the season,
but still finished up with ten and a half points,
five boards, four point three assists per contest. His best
year came during the twenty twenty two twenty three campaign
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fifteen points six bors, about three and a half assists
per contest. Began his career over at Memphis, and for
Jordan Nesbit, out of almost necessity, he had to become
pretty much a six foot six facilitator of the ball
last season, so that was him playing out of position.
And you did notice with Nesbit he was just very
much banged up towards beginning part of the season. He
could not get it going to save his life. First,
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I would say ten or so games of the season.
So if you look at everything from January eleventh on,
and he did pills a little bit with a thud,
but from January eleventh on, those final eighteen games of
the season more like eleven and a half points, five boards,
four point seven assists per contests and should have well
from three, he only shot about twenty six a half
percent from three point inch, so why only probably not
going to be team that's going to be going absolute
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taggers from three point range. That said, I do think
that he's going to be able to help out this
program six fit six, versatile piece set Wyoming he really
needs for Wyoming. I do think that it's probably going
to be a little bit of a rough year for them,
just with all the transition that they've got. That said,
I do think that Sundance Wakes if anyone is able
to build something on the fly, I do think that
it is going to be him, And just having already
coach over at Wyoming, I think is going to be
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also a big key Last season, Darien Baker was over
at Akron for the old Zips, and he has decided
that he's going to be going to SIU Edwardsville. For Edwardsville,
it's been all about the right brothers the last few seasons,
so they're gonna have a little bit of a changing
of the guard here. And for Baker, he was a
red shirt guy last season over at Akron, so we
don't know quite what his fullest skill set is. He
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was someone that, according to four to seven Sports, was
a top three and recruit coming out of high school
just was not able to get out there on the
floor in general. And I do think that's going to
be intriguing what he is going to be able to
bring to the table. As for se Edwardsville, they're taking
a little bit of swing here, and in most years
they've been a little bit more of a defense oriented team.
Lance year, that defensive approach it really did fall down
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the toilet bo both with all the guys that they've
had leaving by the transfer portal, they're probably going to
need to get back sort of in rhythm with that regard.
But Fresvye Weddersville it's been a team has been relatively
silent here in the transfer portal. You can tell that
they need to get something going. I think that this
is going to be a very nice ad for them,
and we shall see some of the other pieces moving
forward for them, and if they do decide to harken
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back to the old days when they had some success
two seasons a going do decide that they are going
to be going a little bit more defense oriented. An
additional note for Jovon black Chair as well, who was
over at Grank Canyon this last season, he is going
to be in the transfer portal. So I saw a
gig about Grand Canyon and the fact that oh they
were getting Jovon black Cheer back to Fold. They might
still be getting him back to the Fold. The falls
the option to be able to come back. That said,
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he is now in the transfer portal as well, And
as I've been saying with regards to the transfer portal rules,
it's very very interesting. It was supposed to flouse on
May first. I think that there's going to be a
point where it reopens as well. So thanks for things
to be very very hairy there. But that's that Trevon
Blacksher He is in the transfer portal. Just to clear
that up. And the objective of this show is very clear,
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