Coach Gessie & Kadidja Dosso Discuss Hair Product Regulations, Affordable Quality Hair Beauty + More
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's epis way up with Angela yee, and today is
going to be an important day. You see the braids,
you see us in here flourishing. My girl, Coach Jesse
is here with me today. And it's also good because
we got vitamins. I'm so excited for my detax and
we have these conversations all the time. Today though we're
also having a conversation about something that is alarming. And
(00:25):
when I tell you about fifty one hundred thousand people
sent me this story, and this story is about synthetic
braiding here and protecting ourselves. And so Coach Jesse, you're
my friend and my partner in the detox now and
we're going to break this all down. But we have
a special guest, Kadija Doso, the founder of Doso Beauty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you for hearving me.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And you have a non toxic, hypoallergenic braiding hair brand
that's changing the game. But when that story broke about
how the braiding here is, you know, causing all kinds
of problems, the carcinogens in them, it was something that
made everybody sit up and take notice.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And girl, you know Angela a black girl and her
braids will not be separated, right like we oh how
we love our braids. And you know, I was telling
Goodejha that you're the one that inspired me to start
wearing braids.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I don't know if you remember. We were at Congressional
Black Cars.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was Congressoony Vets Shining Star event and I said, Angela,
your braids are so pretty.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You were like, you can wear them too. It was
one of those girl moments and I was like, I'm
going to try it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Listen, I grew up with braids, and you know, and
I've seen you talking about vacation braids and how important
that is because you know, when when I'm on a
flight going somewhere, you want that protects.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's look whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
We want to protect a style.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
But now this recent research is showing us like at
what cost? Right, So listen, if you are a black
girl who has a daughter who loves to wear braids,
who you love to wear braids, If you are a
brother out there, your your uncle, a father, listen up,
stay tuned in because in a recent study Consumer Reports
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did they studied and they tested ten hair braid brands. Okay,
ten brands and all ten of them tested positive one
hundred percent for carcinogens, okay, which leads to cancer, all right.
And then also nine out of the ten actually tested
positive for lead. As you know, that's crazy, right, So, Kodija,
(02:30):
I know you knew this because you started this. What
did that seeing that everywhere finally like all they catching up?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
But what did that make you feel?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I mean like, I've been saying this for years, literally
literally for years, so I felt vindicated. I'm like, oh
my god, I've been saying this for you, y'all. I've
been telling y'all for years. We've had this brand for years.
So for us to see that report is great. And
the craziest part about it is that literally last year
we conducted two studies, one to test our hair for lead, mercury,
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other carcinogens as well too, and we're lead free where
EU standard and we're clinically tested hyperlogenic too.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And Kadija, you knew something was wrong and you created
this brand because you had some issues.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Can you talk about that?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
For sure, I actually got my hair braided in Brooklyn.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
It wasn't that Brady, but I got my hair braided
in Brooklyn and I called myself being you know, I
guess hyper focused on getting a clean therapy brand when
that said it was already free clean. But what most
people don't know is all these braiding hair companies are brands.
They can pull whatever marketing and they want on the
actual packaging without any regulation because it's not regulated at all.
(03:35):
So it said it was clean therapy, it said that
it was free of carcinogens, and it actually wasn't. I
had a severe allergic reaction, dermatitis, bumps all up and
down my forehead. I had to take the hair out
the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That is wild. See, and if that happens to you,
you might think did they braid it too tight? What happened?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Giving yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So then what did you do after that?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
After that, I went to Instagram and I pulled about
two hundred people and they also said, girl, I've been
stopped wearing braids because.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I have been getting a really bad allergic reaction.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So I then took it upon myself to go out
and find the best of the best and test so
many different manufacturers.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So when we finally found.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Our product, our hair product that we have now, and
we put it in a market we like jumped up
by like two hundred percent and sales within like the
last quarter.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
So you know, I think something that's important about what
you said is that a lot of times some people
may say, well, I don't have an allergic reaction, I
don't have bumps, But that doesn't mean that you're not
still being affected by those toxins because they're not just
sitting on top of your head, right, They're actually seeping
into your pores because the skin on your head is
actually the most prominent in terms of direct feed into
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your bloodstream. So even if you're not showing it by
virtue of a skin reaction, it may show up for
you with fibroids.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Remember there was a study.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Recently around the connection between the relaxers, the chemicals and relaxers,
and then also with fibroids as well as cancer. So
this is very it's really a kin for you. It
may show up with heavy periods, it may show up
with a thyroid dysfunction. So don't think just because oh
I don't have that reaction.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That means I don't need clean hair.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And that's why that there's no regulations. What it shows
is because we are the ones that really use this
braiding hair.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They don't really care about us.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Sure, you know, and I mean honestly, even when it
comes to the actual ownership of it, most people don't notice.
But the beauty industry, and more specific ethnic hair care
industry is owned by less than two percent of Black women.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
So see that we're the ones using it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They don't say that it was that percentage.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
So it's less than two percent of ownership is held
by us, but we consume more than ninety percent of
the actual ethnic hare care market.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And now and the other thing, not just these chemicals
seeping in, but then also you've talked about heating the
product because you know, you might want to be like, okay,
let me curl this, let me blow dry in, let
me you know, wash wash my scalp, blow dry it out.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So now talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
That to yees.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
So different VOCs are emitted when you actually put in that.
Toxic chemoses are volatile organic compounds, right, So those votal
organic compounds are basically like man made chemicals that are
cancers that call soriatid, that calls flare with pcos and
so once you put that in hot water, you're basically
modifying the actual chemicals. So it emits into your bloodstream,
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into your system, and so when you dip that toxic
hair into the hot water, it actually emits it into it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So that's actually.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Because and that's dangerous not just for the actual person
wearing it, but for the braiker, yes, as well, the
person who's doing the work for the community.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
And the biggest thing I think, but I've been braided
since I was about like ten years old.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, literally I had.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Client it brais fire right right, thank you, I gotta done. Listen, games,
I got it done. That the do So Beauty variance,
which is our luxury braids a line in Philly.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
There when we go to Philly, No, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I said, I'm actually gonna be in Philly soon, So.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, we got you.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
But yeah, I've been braiden for twenty plus years now
at this point, and so I really wanted to create
a product that kept in mind that it was great
for the braiders and not just for the consumers. Most
of the other braiding hair brands that are out here
that are not toxic, a lot of people have issues
with them because they're not soft enough and like they
don't dip well or they don't treat.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That the actual braider's fingers.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, so keeping that amount is a color transfer exactly.
There are plant based hairs, but they don't do exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We still needed to like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Function the way you literally literally I don't want it
to look like banana fibers.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Okay, yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Color did open the brick and mortar as well, So
tell us about that journey.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
So it actually the idea came from us doing a
pop up shop at something in the water. So we're
the inaugural HPCU Grand Prize winner of forarroh Williams back.
Shout out to Okay, so they gave us a beautiful
booth and I was kind of tired of doing pop
up shops, so I said, you know what, let's actually
(08:10):
do a brave bar. Let's bring the products to the people.
And so we actually were able to service and braid
sixty people's hair, and.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
One day of the festival.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
She crazy and you know, yeah, we do that too.
Shout out to my girls, Destiny, but we do. It
was her idea to do this braid bar, and so
we actually what we ended up having to do because
you know, everybody want to get their hair braided.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
People literally came like ready for.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That, like okay, hair bone now, but you know it
was nice right before back to school. So we ended
up having to do a menu of just like a
certain amount of style so that you're only about to.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Get these okay, okay, that's we do the same thing.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
It's literally like thirty minutes or less the braided pony
towls to French braids.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You also feel bad if people really want to get
it done and this you just run out of time.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
You get the expectations correctly exact.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now, one thing I want to call out these braids,
these braid companies, all right, because you may say, well.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Mine may not be one of them.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Number one on the list was expression expression let me
tell you my hair braider loves to chose question.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I definitely got black women have some in my house
right now.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Our war them braids for like six months last year.
One was in the Lion King because I couldn't have
time to do my hair. So that's number one. Ultra
is that the one you outray Free Tresses, Lulu Tress,
Spectra Easy Braids, Sensational, Q Model Model, Urban Beauty Impression.
Now nine out of those ten had led one hundred
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percent had carcinogens.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That means we have to number one stop using them.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, okay, completely right, we have to find But now,
the thing I was just saying is like, if you
tell me, okay, well what do I use? So let's
talk about DOSO And the thing that I love is
that you literally created a brand that was to support
us in doing what we love, healthy, affordable, all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And affordable a big deal to a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Huge part, right, because you know sometimes people want to
get like real hair, but that's so expensive it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So can you talk about that? Also, what makes it
non toxic? Because people be like, well, what makes it toxic?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If there's no regulations, how do we even exactly exactly?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
So Dose Soul Beauty is clinically tested, hyper ologenic, it's
also non toxic. So what makes it non toxic is
we purposefully tested it for lead, mercury, other carcynogens, and
other VOCs, independent third party and made sure that it
was EU standard because y'all know the US standards.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
A US standard is toilet.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, very literally.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Literally, you go to other countries and you go over there,
they you can't bring this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You can't even bring that in here. Don't bring that
over here.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's like it's cool.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
No, for real, they just let anything in.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
So, so I wanted to make sure that it was
hyper alergenic. Again, I had that allergic reaction, so I
needed to make sure it was hyperlergenic, safer sensitive skin.
Princeton actually reached out to us to conduct that actual study.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
That tested it on one hundred test subjects who also
have sensitive skin. So I needed to make sure that
we was good, right, So we have that. We made
sure that it was lead free. We made sure that
it was mercury free as well too, so it doesn't
go into your bloodstream.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's super lightweight. I will let y'all touch my hair.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
It's like, yeah, super lightweight. We also have the most
range of colors and length options. I knew that our
silver foxes needed silver and gray braiding hair, okay, so
we made sure that we have silver and gray braiding
hair that is accessible. We have it in different lengths
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so for the baby girls who are younger, they.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Don't need long hair.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
We have sixteen inches, twenty eight inches, thirty two inches.
And then also the accessibility we are on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So we're top cellar Amazon.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
If y'all want, y'all Amazon next day delivery girl, go
to Amazon.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Get your prime ready, get your prime.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Make Target like not Target, but in these boycott days you.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Can get.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Okay, come directly to us, right, But yeah, and we're
black one own. Like I mentioned, it's crazy stats around ownership,
but really being a part of the product, like this
isn't just me saying hey, I want to sell braiding
hair because I think this is going to make me
a millionaire. No, it's really about me living, lifting right,
uplifting our community, being a part of our community and saying, hey,
(12:23):
how else can we help out to make it better?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, because you actually care, literally because it is you
you Literally.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I am the community.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And it's interesting because when that star still I told
you when that story came out, when I tell you
literally so many people because everybody knows I am like
and you know, I give it a break every now
and then. But and one person told me this though.
They were like, well, you know there's messed up stuff
and everything, so you know, whatever, it's no big deal. Now,
(12:53):
how do you respond if somebody said something like that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Similar to what Jesse said, earlier, Like, I think that
just because you don't think that you're having a reaction
doesn't mean things are not happening and internally.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Right, also, you want to be proactive about preventing it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
We have had hundreds of.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
People that have reached out saying, hey, I didn't see
that I'm having a reaction, but I have cancer that's
in my family.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I need to make a switch immediately.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
So making sure that you are understanding your lineage, understanding
like all the things that come as well too. And
then you want to make sure you're just preventative, right,
Like why not go with a brand that is repurposing
back into the community. Those brands that Jesse just mentioned,
do you know where they take that money back to?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, Hesia. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you know, a key thing is that when you
look at how black women and brown women are disproportionately
affected by these inflammatory conditions that we talk about all
the time, all this is doing is isolating and showing
us how it's getting to us.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Who disproportionately uses breeds? Who us?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So of course who disproportionately uses relaxers us? Yeah? Right,
So look at follow the bread crumb? Yeah, so how.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now are these ways that toxins are getting uniquely into
our bodies, into our blood work extremes. And that's how
it's showing up, whether it's fibroids, whether it's cancer, right,
all of the ways that even when we have these conditions,
we're disproportionately dealing with symptoms that are more severe. Right,
And that's why it's like, you know what, it's a
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lifestyle change. We talk about detoxic being a lifestyle change.
Something I wanted to ask you is because I've seen
people say this all over the internet to us, Oh girl,
all you have to do is soak it in apple
side of vinegar and then now it'll be clean. Or
all you have to do is pre wash your hair.
Can we please debunk that myth?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yes? Please, there's a few right, Like, so, what you're
really just doing is lifting it off the layer.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
So what we're.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Doing at the manufacturing level is making sure that those
toxic ingredients aren't in the actual so you know, like
you don't have to do the extra work, you compromise
the hair quality, you like, it becomes crunchy. Now it's
not a good experience for the brainer. Then you're uncomfort
because you're sitting in it in weeks, you know, so
you didn't really fix it, and you didn't fix it,
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you just lifted a cold off the top and said, Okay,
I think it's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
We also have to talk about legislation because I think
it is also alarming that this is something that people
know but nothing's being is there anything being done?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
So there is class actions going around. The Consumer Reports
actually put out a petition which I.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
They're almost at thirty thousands. Yes, they're almost thirty thousand.
I think last night it was at twenty six thousand,
and the whole thing is to legislate for fdaight more
regulation because as you said, there's literally no regulation. That's
why it's in our beauty products. It's in all of
our products, right, So saying that, I love that. First
of all, shout out to Consumer Reports and the people
who pushed for this study because people been this has
(15:46):
been like I saw this on the internet last year
and I was like, be coming from my brain right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I got so nervous when I was like, oh damn,
but right, you know, but I think knowing it's half
the battle is what we always say. And so now
you know, thank God for somebody to Cadiza who's actually
created a solution, right and then, of course, you know,
I think you said it best. Beauty should never come
at the cost of our health. It just should never
come at the cost of our health. And that's why
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we have to have a detox lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know, it's not just one thing.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It is changing now. It's very easy. Pre order your hair,
take it to your braider. She'll thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You'll be grateful now you know you don't have those
carcinogens seeping into your blood streep.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I already told her what I'm taking. Nia has the
hair in her hair right now.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I told her, right now, we're gonna take that hair out.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And if I can add.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
One more thing. As far as the legislation piece as
well too.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
In the state of Pennsylvania because I'm from Philly, they
actually just disbanded the whole natural hair care license period.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's like you don't have to be licensed to be
a braider anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They disbanded it.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We paid thousands of dollars for schooling for these licenses,
and they disbanded it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Why Why do you think they did it? Because it's
put it up, all.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Right, It's because they don't care about us, and so
they don't care about their regulation. So you know, to
everybody that's listening, it's really important for you to also
educate your braider, like, hey, text them and say, hey,
have you heard of this brand Doo so beauty.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I want to buy it for you to try it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Also let them know that we do sell whole sell
We sell to different salons, we sell to beauty supply
stores around the world exactly, and you get them a sample.
You know, if they feel like, Okay, I'm gonna test
it out, let's see how it goes, and then they
can purchase whole seff from us, or if you just
want to buy it for your own.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Or your hair.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I definitely recommend that because I know, I know I'm
guilty of being a little lazy and being like, just
pick it up, but pay attention because some of us
don't even know ye what type of hair is being
used when our hair gets braided.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
No, we don't. Well we do know. We know it's
toxic because we know they're not. They're not educated about
it until now, I think now, so many like when
I sent her the information, she was like, whoa, because
her health it's not just the people who's hair she's breeding.
It's her because she's being both Twitter on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, for the actual braiders.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, because listen, when I sat here for a few hours,
get in my head, right, imagine what that's like.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Every single day.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Book they're doing people back.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
All day and everybody in the salon.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Exactly, and the other products too. So like people always
are like, oh, well, I think it's the braining hair
or it's something. It could also be the ingredients that
are in the products as well too, to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So you got to pay attention to everything.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, look, I appreciate you for coming up, and of course,
coach Jesse, you know, always on the mission to make
sure that we're educating ourselves because honestly, like we shouldn't
be ashamed of the fact that we weren't aware of
this but now we are.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, you know, so spread the word.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And I love the fact many people sent it to
me because they know.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Look, even my boss up here at THEA she was like, girl,
you know what I mean, and she said that to
me right away. I said, I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm on it, Like yeah, yes, we got continued you
coming up, So we have a I love Angela.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
First of all, thank you for always during these conversations
that close the gap on the areas of information that
are being really hidden from us.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But I love that it's not just shunning and saying
we can't do it, but that we have options. I
love that it's just like you know what, I can
make a swap and change the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I love that, you know, so thank you Coadi just
for making it.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And you know, I think for people who be like,
oh my god, I've been using that, well, this is
the perfect time for you to join us for the
Detox Now Challenge, absolutely right, because listen, you got to
reset your body right. The fast is a great way
to start reset your body because at the end of
the day, you want to make sure you're flushing it
of those toxins your body's been harboring, right, your body's
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been holding on to and it's time to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And you know, we start in March thirty. First, y'all
see if you want to join us, go to the
detox Now dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know, and shout out to Delsa. I actually have
seen you on the news before, yeah, talking about your products.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So I'm just happy for you and I'm happy and
I'm hoping that now with.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
People realizing and with this news story is going viral,
that that amplifies your business, like even more the past
two weeks.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Good girl, a girl, and we're gonna keep going because again,
people are excited, they know what's going on. I have
a technology background, so seo analytics is my thing.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Right, make it.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Non toxic, only clinically tested, and.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We're braiding here. So and I also some for y'all on.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That's not that's actually clinically tested. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The other thing I love because remember people can say it,
but they don't have the rest because that's what a.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Lot of brands posting there.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Like now, oh we're good. Yeah, you know, even people
who are on that list.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
There are people who are on that list who came
back who clapped back and said, oh, we stand by
our product.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, but the test didn't show it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wan't stand by it, but we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Gonna stand away, okay, okay, And it is beautiful and
nice and light, so okank you for that I got
for y'all.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
No more, all right, cool?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So d're about to get his hair braided right at
this point.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
All right, it's for you, Angela.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I definitely wanted to give you one of our top
colors is one B thirty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
This is yeah. So what's the next arm Breid. That's
our three.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Bundle pet bundle pan.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, you got some other goodies in.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Here to bray bond it because you now need to
make sure that your hair is protected. Our rice water
brace bray is another chop cellar body you definitely need
to Okay, help prevents breakage as moisture and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, while your hair is in breaks for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And then our control of course, it's control. Okay, yes,
it's late.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Right, yeah, don't look at mine right now.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
And then Jesse, we gave you a little Razu dazzle.
Like I told you, we have many colors.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So this is one of our arm Brey colors.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You know, we're gonna get the blind it's the Hombred
and you have a lot of other great products in here.
Is her baby, you know, listen, you have got a
community of support because we are uplifting our sisterhood.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right, I appreciate that, Like we're not about I told her,
how do you walk down the street.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Hold on, men, how do you walk down the street
without asking people what.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Kind of hair you got in? Like you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Because now you realize these kids, like I, they we
were in weeks and sometimes months at a time, so
you're thinking about the long term impact, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
So I'm like, I'm gonna be one of them people.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Listen. Yeah, it's like I can't go nowhere now without
asking somebody what's your D three?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right listen, putting it right in my grip text like
make sure y'all get this. But no, I appreciate you
so much, and congratulations, honestly well deserved.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And she's gonna do the detox you are, yes.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sam, Okay, I'm excited. Everybody want to do this detox.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I want to say, well, the products arrive today, so
they are shipping. Okay, got your challenge? You ready to
join them?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And what I love about that too, is it's so
much easier when you've got a whole community.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah literally, yeah, not alone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Let's check in, baby all write its way up, way up,
What's epis way up with Angela yee, and today is
going to be an important day. You see the braids,
you see us in here flourishing. My girl, Coach Jesse
is here with me today. And it's also good because
we got vitamins. I'm so excited for my detax and
we have these conversations all the time. Today though we're
also having a conversation about something that is alarming. And
(00:25):
when I tell you about fifty one hundred thousand people
sent me this story, and this story is about synthetic
braiding here and protecting ourselves. And so Coach Jesse, you're
my friend and my partner in the detox now and
we're going to break this all down. But we have
a special guest, Kadija Doso, the founder of Doso Beauty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thank you for hearving me.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And you have a non toxic, hypoallergenic braiding hair brand
that's changing the game. But when that story broke about
how the braiding here is, you know, causing all kinds
of problems, the carcinogens in them, it was something that
made everybody sit up and take notice.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And girl, you know Angela a black girl and her
braids will not be separated, right like we oh how
we love our braids. And you know, I was telling
Goodejha that you're the one that inspired me to start
wearing braids.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I don't know if you remember. We were at Congressional
Black Cars.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was Congressoony Vets Shining Star event and I said, Angela,
your braids are so pretty.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You were like, you can wear them too. It was
one of those girl moments and I was like, I'm
going to try it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Listen, I grew up with braids, and you know, and
I've seen you talking about vacation braids and how important
that is because you know, when when I'm on a
flight going somewhere, you want that protects.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's look whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
We want to protect a style.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
But now this recent research is showing us like at
what cost? Right, So listen, if you are a black
girl who has a daughter who loves to wear braids,
who you love to wear braids, If you are a
brother out there, your your uncle, a father, listen up,
stay tuned in because in a recent study Consumer Reports
(02:08):
did they studied and they tested ten hair braid brands. Okay,
ten brands and all ten of them tested positive one
hundred percent for carcinogens, okay, which leads to cancer, all right.
And then also nine out of the ten actually tested
positive for lead. As you know, that's crazy, right, So, Kodija,
(02:30):
I know you knew this because you started this. What
did that seeing that everywhere finally like all they catching up?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
But what did that make you feel?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I mean like, I've been saying this for years, literally
literally for years, so I felt vindicated. I'm like, oh
my god, I've been saying this for you, y'all. I've
been telling y'all for years. We've had this brand for years.
So for us to see that report is great. And
the craziest part about it is that literally last year
we conducted two studies, one to test our hair for lead, mercury,
(03:00):
other carcinogens as well too, and we're lead free where
EU standard and we're clinically tested hyperlogenic too.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And Kadija, you knew something was wrong and you created
this brand because you had some issues.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Can you talk about that?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
For sure, I actually got my hair braided in Brooklyn.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
It wasn't that Brady, but I got my hair braided
in Brooklyn and I called myself being you know, I
guess hyper focused on getting a clean therapy brand when
that said it was already free clean. But what most
people don't know is all these braiding hair companies are brands.
They can pull whatever marketing and they want on the
actual packaging without any regulation because it's not regulated at all.
(03:35):
So it said it was clean therapy, it said that
it was free of carcinogens, and it actually wasn't. I
had a severe allergic reaction, dermatitis, bumps all up and
down my forehead. I had to take the hair out
the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That is wild. See, and if that happens to you,
you might think did they braid it too tight? What happened?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Giving yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So then what did you do after that?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
After that, I went to Instagram and I pulled about
two hundred people and they also said, girl, I've been
stopped wearing braids because.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I have been getting a really bad allergic reaction.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So I then took it upon myself to go out
and find the best of the best and test so
many different manufacturers.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So when we finally found.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Our product, our hair product that we have now, and
we put it in a market we like jumped up
by like two hundred percent and sales within like the
last quarter.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
So you know, I think something that's important about what
you said is that a lot of times some people
may say, well, I don't have an allergic reaction, I
don't have bumps, But that doesn't mean that you're not
still being affected by those toxins because they're not just
sitting on top of your head, right, They're actually seeping
into your pores because the skin on your head is
actually the most prominent in terms of direct feed into
(04:40):
your bloodstream. So even if you're not showing it by
virtue of a skin reaction, it may show up for
you with fibroids.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Remember there was a study.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Recently around the connection between the relaxers, the chemicals and relaxers,
and then also with fibroids as well as cancer. So
this is very it's really a kin for you. It
may show up with heavy periods, it may show up
with a thyroid dysfunction. So don't think just because oh
I don't have that reaction.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That means I don't need clean hair.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And that's why that there's no regulations. What it shows
is because we are the ones that really use this
braiding hair.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They don't really care about us.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Sure, you know, and I mean honestly, even when it
comes to the actual ownership of it, most people don't notice.
But the beauty industry, and more specific ethnic hair care
industry is owned by less than two percent of Black women.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
So see that we're the ones using it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They don't say that it was that percentage.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
So it's less than two percent of ownership is held
by us, but we consume more than ninety percent of
the actual ethnic hare care market.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And now and the other thing, not just these chemicals
seeping in, but then also you've talked about heating the
product because you know, you might want to be like, okay,
let me curl this, let me blow dry in, let
me you know, wash wash my scalp, blow dry it out.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So now talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
That to yees.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
So different VOCs are emitted when you actually put in that.
Toxic chemoses are volatile organic compounds, right, So those votal
organic compounds are basically like man made chemicals that are
cancers that call soriatid, that calls flare with pcos and
so once you put that in hot water, you're basically
modifying the actual chemicals. So it emits into your bloodstream,
(06:23):
into your system, and so when you dip that toxic
hair into the hot water, it actually emits it into it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So that's actually.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Because and that's dangerous not just for the actual person
wearing it, but for the braiker, yes, as well, the
person who's doing the work for the community.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
And the biggest thing I think, but I've been braided
since I was about like ten years old.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, literally I had.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Client it brais fire right right, thank you, I gotta done. Listen, games,
I got it done. That the do So Beauty variance,
which is our luxury braids a line in Philly.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
There when we go to Philly, No, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I said, I'm actually gonna be in Philly soon, So.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, we got you.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
But yeah, I've been braiden for twenty plus years now
at this point, and so I really wanted to create
a product that kept in mind that it was great
for the braiders and not just for the consumers. Most
of the other braiding hair brands that are out here
that are not toxic, a lot of people have issues
with them because they're not soft enough and like they
don't dip well or they don't treat.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That the actual braider's fingers.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, so keeping that amount is a color transfer exactly.
There are plant based hairs, but they don't do exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We still needed to like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Function the way you literally literally I don't want it
to look like banana fibers.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Okay, yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Color did open the brick and mortar as well, So
tell us about that journey.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
So it actually the idea came from us doing a
pop up shop at something in the water. So we're
the inaugural HPCU Grand Prize winner of forarroh Williams back.
Shout out to Okay, so they gave us a beautiful
booth and I was kind of tired of doing pop
up shops, so I said, you know what, let's actually
(08:10):
do a brave bar. Let's bring the products to the people.
And so we actually were able to service and braid
sixty people's hair, and.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
One day of the festival.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
She crazy and you know, yeah, we do that too.
Shout out to my girls, Destiny, but we do. It
was her idea to do this braid bar, and so
we actually what we ended up having to do because
you know, everybody want to get their hair braided.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
People literally came like ready for.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That, like okay, hair bone now, but you know it
was nice right before back to school. So we ended
up having to do a menu of just like a
certain amount of style so that you're only about to.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Get these okay, okay, that's we do the same thing.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
It's literally like thirty minutes or less the braided pony
towls to French braids.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You also feel bad if people really want to get
it done and this you just run out of time.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
You get the expectations correctly exact.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now, one thing I want to call out these braids,
these braid companies, all right, because you may say, well.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Mine may not be one of them.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Number one on the list was expression expression let me
tell you my hair braider loves to chose question.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I definitely got black women have some in my house
right now.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Our war them braids for like six months last year.
One was in the Lion King because I couldn't have
time to do my hair. So that's number one. Ultra
is that the one you outray Free Tresses, Lulu Tress,
Spectra Easy Braids, Sensational, Q Model Model, Urban Beauty Impression.
Now nine out of those ten had led one hundred
(09:35):
percent had carcinogens.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That means we have to number one stop using them.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, okay, completely right, we have to find But now,
the thing I was just saying is like, if you
tell me, okay, well what do I use? So let's
talk about DOSO And the thing that I love is
that you literally created a brand that was to support
us in doing what we love, healthy, affordable, all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And affordable a big deal to a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Huge part, right, because you know sometimes people want to
get like real hair, but that's so expensive it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So can you talk about that? Also, what makes it
non toxic? Because people be like, well, what makes it toxic?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If there's no regulations, how do we even exactly exactly?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
So Dose Soul Beauty is clinically tested, hyper ologenic, it's
also non toxic. So what makes it non toxic is
we purposefully tested it for lead, mercury, other carcynogens, and
other VOCs, independent third party and made sure that it
was EU standard because y'all know the US standards.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
A US standard is toilet.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, very literally.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Literally, you go to other countries and you go over there,
they you can't bring this.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You can't even bring that in here. Don't bring that
over here.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's like it's cool.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
No, for real, they just let anything in.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
So, so I wanted to make sure that it was
hyper alergenic. Again, I had that allergic reaction, so I
needed to make sure it was hyperlergenic, safer sensitive skin.
Princeton actually reached out to us to conduct that actual study.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
That tested it on one hundred test subjects who also
have sensitive skin. So I needed to make sure that
we was good, right, So we have that. We made
sure that it was lead free. We made sure that
it was mercury free as well too, so it doesn't
go into your bloodstream.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's super lightweight. I will let y'all touch my hair.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
It's like, yeah, super lightweight. We also have the most
range of colors and length options. I knew that our
silver foxes needed silver and gray braiding hair, okay, so
we made sure that we have silver and gray braiding
hair that is accessible. We have it in different lengths
(11:38):
so for the baby girls who are younger, they.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Don't need long hair.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
We have sixteen inches, twenty eight inches, thirty two inches.
And then also the accessibility we are on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So we're top cellar Amazon.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
If y'all want, y'all Amazon next day delivery girl, go
to Amazon.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Get your prime ready, get your prime.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Make Target like not Target, but in these boycott days you.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Can get.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Okay, come directly to us, right, But yeah, and we're
black one own. Like I mentioned, it's crazy stats around ownership,
but really being a part of the product, like this
isn't just me saying hey, I want to sell braiding
hair because I think this is going to make me
a millionaire. No, it's really about me living, lifting right,
uplifting our community, being a part of our community and saying, hey,
(12:23):
how else can we help out to make it better?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, because you actually care, literally because it is you
you Literally.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I am the community.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And it's interesting because when that star still I told
you when that story came out, when I tell you
literally so many people because everybody knows I am like
and you know, I give it a break every now
and then. But and one person told me this though.
They were like, well, you know there's messed up stuff
and everything, so you know, whatever, it's no big deal. Now,
(12:53):
how do you respond if somebody said something like that.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Similar to what Jesse said, earlier, Like, I think that
just because you don't think that you're having a reaction
doesn't mean things are not happening and internally.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Right, also, you want to be proactive about preventing it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
We have had hundreds of.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
People that have reached out saying, hey, I didn't see
that I'm having a reaction, but I have cancer that's
in my family.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I need to make a switch immediately.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
So making sure that you are understanding your lineage, understanding
like all the things that come as well too. And
then you want to make sure you're just preventative, right,
Like why not go with a brand that is repurposing
back into the community. Those brands that Jesse just mentioned,
do you know where they take that money back to?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, Hesia. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you know, a key thing is that when you
look at how black women and brown women are disproportionately
affected by these inflammatory conditions that we talk about all
the time, all this is doing is isolating and showing
us how it's getting to us.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Who disproportionately uses breeds? Who us?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So of course who disproportionately uses relaxers us? Yeah? Right,
So look at follow the bread crumb? Yeah, so how.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now are these ways that toxins are getting uniquely into
our bodies, into our blood work extremes. And that's how
it's showing up, whether it's fibroids, whether it's cancer, right,
all of the ways that even when we have these conditions,
we're disproportionately dealing with symptoms that are more severe. Right,
And that's why it's like, you know what, it's a
(14:22):
lifestyle change. We talk about detoxic being a lifestyle change.
Something I wanted to ask you is because I've seen
people say this all over the internet to us, Oh girl,
all you have to do is soak it in apple
side of vinegar and then now it'll be clean. Or
all you have to do is pre wash your hair.
Can we please debunk that myth?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yes? Please, there's a few right, Like, so, what you're
really just doing is lifting it off the layer.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
So what we're.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Doing at the manufacturing level is making sure that those
toxic ingredients aren't in the actual so you know, like
you don't have to do the extra work, you compromise
the hair quality, you like, it becomes crunchy. Now it's
not a good experience for the brainer. Then you're uncomfort
because you're sitting in it in weeks, you know, so
you didn't really fix it, and you didn't fix it,
(15:04):
you just lifted a cold off the top and said, Okay,
I think it's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
We also have to talk about legislation because I think
it is also alarming that this is something that people
know but nothing's being is there anything being done?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
So there is class actions going around. The Consumer Reports
actually put out a petition which I.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
They're almost at thirty thousands. Yes, they're almost thirty thousand.
I think last night it was at twenty six thousand,
and the whole thing is to legislate for fdaight more
regulation because as you said, there's literally no regulation. That's
why it's in our beauty products. It's in all of
our products, right, So saying that, I love that. First
of all, shout out to Consumer Reports and the people
who pushed for this study because people been this has
(15:46):
been like I saw this on the internet last year
and I was like, be coming from my brain right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I got so nervous when I was like, oh damn,
but right, you know, but I think knowing it's half
the battle is what we always say. And so now
you know, thank God for somebody to Cadiza who's actually
created a solution, right and then, of course, you know,
I think you said it best. Beauty should never come
at the cost of our health. It just should never
come at the cost of our health. And that's why
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we have to have a detox lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know, it's not just one thing.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It is changing now. It's very easy. Pre order your hair,
take it to your braider. She'll thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You'll be grateful now you know you don't have those
carcinogens seeping into your blood streep.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I already told her what I'm taking. Nia has the
hair in her hair right now.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I told her, right now, we're gonna take that hair out.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And if I can add.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
One more thing. As far as the legislation piece as
well too.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
In the state of Pennsylvania because I'm from Philly, they
actually just disbanded the whole natural hair care license period.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's like you don't have to be licensed to be
a braider anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They disbanded it.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We paid thousands of dollars for schooling for these licenses,
and they disbanded it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Why Why do you think they did it? Because it's
put it up, all.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Right, It's because they don't care about us, and so
they don't care about their regulation. So you know, to
everybody that's listening, it's really important for you to also
educate your braider, like, hey, text them and say, hey,
have you heard of this brand Doo so beauty.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I want to buy it for you to try it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Also let them know that we do sell whole sell
We sell to different salons, we sell to beauty supply
stores around the world exactly, and you get them a sample.
You know, if they feel like, Okay, I'm gonna test
it out, let's see how it goes, and then they
can purchase whole seff from us, or if you just
want to buy it for your own.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Or your hair.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I definitely recommend that because I know, I know I'm
guilty of being a little lazy and being like, just
pick it up, but pay attention because some of us
don't even know ye what type of hair is being
used when our hair gets braided.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
No, we don't. Well we do know. We know it's
toxic because we know they're not. They're not educated about
it until now, I think now, so many like when
I sent her the information, she was like, whoa, because
her health it's not just the people who's hair she's breeding.
It's her because she's being both Twitter on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, for the actual braiders.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, because listen, when I sat here for a few hours,
get in my head, right, imagine what that's like.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Every single day.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Book they're doing people back.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
All day and everybody in the salon.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Exactly, and the other products too. So like people always
are like, oh, well, I think it's the braining hair
or it's something. It could also be the ingredients that
are in the products as well too, to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So you got to pay attention to everything.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, look, I appreciate you for coming up, and of course,
coach Jesse, you know, always on the mission to make
sure that we're educating ourselves because honestly, like we shouldn't
be ashamed of the fact that we weren't aware of
this but now we are.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, you know, so spread the word.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And I love the fact many people sent it to
me because they know.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Look, even my boss up here at THEA she was like, girl,
you know what I mean, and she said that to
me right away. I said, I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm on it, Like yeah, yes, we got continued you
coming up, So we have a I love Angela.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
First of all, thank you for always during these conversations
that close the gap on the areas of information that
are being really hidden from us.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But I love that it's not just shunning and saying
we can't do it, but that we have options. I
love that it's just like you know what, I can
make a swap and change the rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I love that, you know, so thank you Coadi just
for making it.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And you know, I think for people who be like,
oh my god, I've been using that, well, this is
the perfect time for you to join us for the
Detox Now Challenge, absolutely right, because listen, you got to
reset your body right. The fast is a great way
to start reset your body because at the end of
the day, you want to make sure you're flushing it
of those toxins your body's been harboring, right, your body's
(19:40):
been holding on to and it's time to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And you know, we start in March thirty. First, y'all
see if you want to join us, go to the
detox Now dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know, and shout out to Delsa. I actually have
seen you on the news before, yeah, talking about your products.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So I'm just happy for you and I'm happy and
I'm hoping that now with.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
People realizing and with this news story is going viral,
that that amplifies your business, like even more the past
two weeks.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Good girl, a girl, and we're gonna keep going because again,
people are excited, they know what's going on. I have
a technology background, so seo analytics is my thing.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Right, make it.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Non toxic, only clinically tested, and.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We're braiding here. So and I also some for y'all on.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That's not that's actually clinically tested. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The other thing I love because remember people can say it,
but they don't have the rest because that's what a.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Lot of brands posting there.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Like now, oh we're good. Yeah, you know, even people
who are on that list.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
There are people who are on that list who came
back who clapped back and said, oh, we stand by
our product.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, but the test didn't show it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wan't stand by it, but we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Gonna stand away, okay, okay, And it is beautiful and
nice and light, so okank you for that I got
for y'all.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
No more, all right, cool?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So d're about to get his hair braided right at
this point.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
All right, it's for you, Angela.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I definitely wanted to give you one of our top
colors is one B thirty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
This is yeah. So what's the next arm Breid. That's
our three.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Bundle pet bundle pan.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, you got some other goodies in.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Here to bray bond it because you now need to
make sure that your hair is protected. Our rice water
brace bray is another chop cellar body you definitely need
to Okay, help prevents breakage as moisture and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, while your hair is in breaks for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And then our control of course, it's control. Okay, yes,
it's late.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Right, yeah, don't look at mine right now.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
And then Jesse, we gave you a little Razu dazzle.
Like I told you, we have many colors.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So this is one of our arm Brey colors.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You know, we're gonna get the blind it's the Hombred
and you have a lot of other great products in here.
Is her baby, you know, listen, you have got a
community of support because we are uplifting our sisterhood.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right, I appreciate that, Like we're not about I told her,
how do you walk down the street.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Hold on, men, how do you walk down the street
without asking people what.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Kind of hair you got in? Like you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Because now you realize these kids, like I, they we
were in weeks and sometimes months at a time, so
you're thinking about the long term impact, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
So I'm like, I'm gonna be one of them people.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Listen. Yeah, it's like I can't go nowhere now without
asking somebody what's your D three?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right listen, putting it right in my grip text like
make sure y'all get this. But no, I appreciate you
so much, and congratulations, honestly well deserved.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And she's gonna do the detox you are, yes.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sam, Okay, I'm excited. Everybody want to do this detox.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I want to say, well, the products arrive today, so
they are shipping. Okay, got your challenge? You ready to
join them?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And what I love about that too, is it's so
much easier when you've got a whole community.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah literally, yeah, not alone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Let's check in, baby all write its way up, way up,
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