Vernon Davis Talks New Role in "The Ritual Killer" Working With Morgan Freeman + More!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up. It's way up with Angela yee. I'm here
and Jasmine Brand is here. I call you. Your name
is not really Jasmine Brand, that's your website, but Jasmine
from the Jasmine Brand is here, and Vernon Davis is here.
Actor extraordinary Vernon Davis. But um, you know we're here
to talk about you're in a movie that you're in,
which is exciting. The ritual Killer. I'm a little nervous
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sitting next to you should be very afraid. He got
into character right away to know. But so, how did
that feel for you to play a role like that
where you're actually a killer? It was? It was dope,
It was It was interesting because I never imagine myself
playing a role like that. It took a lot to
get into get into it because I had to attach
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too many things from my past life into this character.
Like you have to go really deep and dark those
moments that you've experienced when you were a kid. It
can be really harsh for some people to think in
that way, but when you're an actor, you have to
be able to live in those moments and live truthfully.
And it's not like you retired from football and just
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started acting. You've been acting, so this is something that
I mean, you've been working on it, like you've known
this is what you want to do. Yeah, I was.
I thought I knew. I thought I knew what I
was doing when I was playing ball. But I did it.
I didn't fully understand it. There was a there was
a moment when I was on I think it was ESPN.
They said vernon, let me see, let me see you
act o man, and I started like cry. It looked,
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it looked it was cool to some people, but it's not.
That's not the craft, you know, because because when you crying,
you don't really you fight your tears. You don't really cry.
You don't want people to see you cry right in
public or in person. You just do it on purpose.
It's more it's more internally right than externally. So you
once you learn that and you learn the craft, you're like, okay,
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I get that. Look silly, So now you can cry.
I give it. I can get really emotional. I mean
I do it weekly. I practice even if I'm not
getting a job every week, well not crying, and necessarily
I practiced like the emotion of of it all. So
what do you think about just well, when you're doing
so much, it's just a Nate. Okay. It's just like
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if you haven't seen, if I haven't seen what I'm arguing,
or I'm upset with somebody, and then I'm gonna get
really I can get really frustrated, really and you just
come on. It's just because it lives in you, just
like a muscle. Okay, when you practice so much, that's
that's all it is. When did you know you wanted
to act and you wanted to take it seriously. I
knew I wanted to take it seriously when um, probably
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my last year playing football. Yeah, I know I wanted
to take it serious. What it was it was a moment, well,
I was on this I did this movie called Hell
in the Border and it was probably like the biggest
role I had I've ever had in my entire career
playing football. So when I when that happened, I was like, well,
I want to continue to do this. This feels good.
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I know I can do it because I felt really
confident about my performance. It wasn't the best to me
now that I look back, because there's a lot of
things I could have changed, but that was the moment
right there, and you knew that was going to be
your last year playing football. No, I didn't know. I
didn't know at all. I had I had a concussion
and my granddad died, and I wanted I was ready
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to move on. I couldn't go on. I couldn't play
play anymore. I wanted to step away and do something different.
And you and your brother both played in the NFL.
So what was it like how you guys were raised
at home? Was it something that, like, you know, your
family was really into sports and no, yeah, no, we
didn't really have anybody in our family playing ball. It
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was it was like our only outlet. It was the
only way out. You had to play sports, and if
we were going to make it, we had to be
really good at it. And I understood that. So I
took my brother. I would take him with me to
go work out at night or in the morning because
I wanted to see him excel as well. I knew
where I was going, but I just had that. I
also knew I had to put the work in. Do
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you feel like it's harder just coming from being an athlete?
And sometimes people might not give you the benefit of
the doubt, right because sometimes it's harder when people know
who you are in a certain field and they're like, oh,
now this guy you know wants to act. Do you
feel like you have more to prove to people? Because
you have to really come and I think overly succeed
when you're doing something different. Yeah, when you're doing something
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like acting, because you know, a lot of times, like
you said, some people feel like I could just step
into this. People know me, so that's going to help
with the marketing. Already, I'm an actor and some people
might feel like, oh, you got this role because of X,
Y and Z, so for you do you feel like
you have more to prove? No, I don't really feel
like I have anything to prove. I'm doing it because
it's fun and I enjoy it. I don't really. I'm
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not really too. I'm not worried about the fame from
it or the it just feels good. It's just going
to be like he was amazing, you know. Yeah. It's
just like I take the same work ethic that I
had in football and I apply to whatever else i'm
and I do it with acting, and that's just putting
the work in. I sit there every day, daily and
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just I'm always focused on the craft. So what did
that look like for you daily when you're what is
focusing on the craft? Looked like reading the script every day,
working with my act working with my acting coach two
three times a week, every every week throughout the year. Okay,
and doing it for continuing to do it for the
rest of my life and that stuff. So this is it,
this is your You definitely want to act forever. I
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feel like I do. You can. I look up to
guys like Morgan Freeman. He's say five, and he's still
doing it, and I've been being in a movie. But
Morgan Freeman, though, let's take a moment to even think
about that. That's major. Yeah, we're actually getting ready to
do another one. What one called Gunner I played. I played.
I played his son, ridiculous with makeup right makeup and
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yeah no but I yeah, I'm playing the son in
this one. We Yes, it's gonna be pretty cool. But
the one I just had called the Richel Kill, that
was that was cool. So that's a true story. It's
based on a true story, all right, So tell us
the true story for people who haven't seen the movie
and don't know it. So harvesting body parts, and Africa
has been said too. It's a ritual where you're you're
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selling to people who want to feel more powerful, and
people with money come to this tribe called the same
Goma tribe and they buy this concoction that's made of
body parts, golden herbs, and now they're more powerful, they
can see better, they can think better, they're stronger. So
that's what you're It is very disturbing, and that's why
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I say, when you know, attaching some of the moments
for my life to this character, I had anxiety after
the film was over because every day I'm fine, when
I'm in my hotel and I'm coming out, I was fine.
But when I put on these garments of this character,
I started my mannerism, my face change. I can just
feel it in my whole body, just like everything. Yeah,
that's wild. How did you be compressed after the project
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was over? I had a therapist. Okay that the therapist.
I did some yoga, started meditating more and just getting
myself back because people don't understand, like I spent like
a month and a half two months with this this
guy that I created. I spent a month two months
with him, and I became him. It was crazy. It
felt so good killing all these people in the man
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Like I'm saying that right now. I'm just saying it. Yeah,
as an act, it felt it was fulfilling. It was
like the trailer was very very it was like I
was releasing something. It was like I was releasing some
demons from the past. That that's what felt good. So
I didn't want to stop. So when you when you
get done with that, you have to really make sure it. Yeah, decompressing,
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just you know, just fine. Two things. Remember you were
telling us that Queen Latifa has a clause in her contract?
Do you have any what clauses do you have in
your contracts? Like Queen Latifa cannot get killed in a movie? No,
I don't have that, but do you yeah? Clear? But
like for you, do you have anything that you won't
do that you're like, because I know people have certain
things in their contracts that they're like, Okay, it depends
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on it depends on the material. I don't think anyone
will offer me anything crazy. I have to read it
and make sure it's something that I want to do
right before I, you know, sign the contract. And you
also executive produced to write you did the movie what
was it called Red Red one and a message from Brianna. Okay,
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oh my god, we saw this trailer for that. Yeah, listen,
you know I love a horror movie. She loves check
it out. Yeah, look, Jasmine said, because she has a
young daughter, Yeah, I have a like she's almost two.
And so when I seen in the trailer the girl
get snatched up, I was like, I was like, not
the baby, and then the baby's staying on top of
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the it. I was like, oh my god. Yeah that
was fun. That was fun. I funded that one, that
entire film myself. Wow, to make sure. Let's make sure
we run it up. Yeah, we need to watch the second.
That was my second film after retiring. Really. Yeah, what's
your favorite genre of movies? Oh gosh, that's a good question.
I like action. I can see that. Yeah. I like
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a lot of action. But I also like playing unique characters.
I have this movie coming out called Tonic, while I
played an award winning jazz pianist. Oh that's dope. Yeah,
that's dope. Look at this most all these multifacting yeah,
rolls nice and quick too. Well, it's like it's like
a it's a challenge, you know, it's a challenge to
like when you put the work in and and becoming
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that character and just finding the identity, doing the backstory
and just all the work that you got to put in.
It's just it's so much fun. Is that method acting
or what the type of I know they have different
names for that. I don't know enough, but I know
they do method acting. So it's a combination of Ivana,
Chubbig and Meisner. I use both. So when I when
I got done, I went to like several different classes
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I started going. I went to LA and I started
to audit classes set in and just learned every little
technique and then what happens You put it together and
make it your own right, and the you come up
what works for you, Like what's your process of breaking
down the script and trying to figure out this character
and being creative. And then when you said that action movies,
do you can so you can do your own stunts? Yeah?
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I did my own stuns in the Ritual Killer. Okay,
you check it out. You check it out. You see
me climbing down the side of building. Have you gotten hurt? Yeah? No, Okay.
I feel like it's rare for athletes to successfully transition
into acting, Like, we don't see a lot of athletes
you know, well the Rock. No, not a lot. It's
not a lot. Rare. Yeah, it's rare. So what do
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you think do you think there will be more of
athletes like you that transition into acting and are as
successful because it's not a lot. That's just what I'm saying. Yeah,
there are something, No, for sure, it's not a lot. Yeah,
so that goes back to I think that probably goes
back to your reasoning, your purpose of wanting to be
an actor. I get approached all the time NFL players.
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I'm sure they see you come out with Morgan Freeman,
they see me with Bruce willis the big deal. They
see me with all the people, and they're like, I
want to act. I want to do that. The first
thing I want to tell is like, are you gonna
put the work in? You gotta put the work in, man,
Like this I didn't. I mean, this is what I do.
I do this all the time. I practice. I'm with
my coach every week. You gotta be willing to do that. Like,
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if you can't do this, you have to have discipline. Yeah,
because everybody want to do something right everybody want to rap,
make music. Everybody wants to make music too. Now I do. Yah,
we watch, we were watching. I'm in the studio every week.
I'm in the studio every week. I'm getting better. I'm
just finding myself. So this is stuff, the stuff that
I'm doing now and be doing it throughout my life. Whatever. Yeah, yeah,
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it's it's my thing. It's what I do. Um, it's
not what I'm trying to do. Is I actually do it?
You know? But most athletes they try to do it.
That's why they don't excel at it. They get busy,
they step away from it, they come back to it.
They don't see that's that's what it is. They just
want to step in and use their name and use
what they have when they created through football, and they
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think that's enough. But that's not enough. What type of
the I said, Morgan Freeman, give you because I can
see you guys have a good relationship. Y'all just did
the Ritual Killer together. You said you're gonna be in
another movie. So what I mean being that he took
a liking to you. Did he also say, all right, son,
here's you know some things you need to do. You
gotta you're not sounding like him right now? You have
to do the voice. God, No, I don't know if
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I can sound like Morgan? Can you sound like him?
I don't know. Let's try it. Let's try it. Well.
He's like, if I hear him, if I hear him again,
I can probably do it. But I can't. I can't
do I got I don't got him down yet. Um,
but no, he just gave me. He just talked. He's
like a coach on set. It's interesting because we haven't
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seen and he just talked to me like, oh okay,
try this, try this, try it like this. It's like, okay,
you get it, you get it. He's just this quiet voice.
He's just interesting person. He's like a coach and a
and an actor. I really appreciate that, and I respect
it because for him to be eighty five years old.
You don't you don't have to help out, you don't
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have to do anything. You just come to work and
go back to its trailer. Right. Yeah, she's amazing. And
then if you think about it, like a director, it's
kind of like a coach too, you know, being able,
you know, being able to follow what someone's telling you
to do and run those plays. Yes, is that is
that why you're do you find it easy to remember
scripts because you always had to remember plays or No,
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it's a different process I have to come up with.
So what I do is if I have a if
I have a script in front of me, what I do.
I'll take it page by page and I'll I'll do breakfast, breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, and I'll just get the words and then
I'll record it on my voice memo. Okay, instead of
listening to music, I listened to my voice to the lines.
So every day or every two days, I have like
one or two pages memorized, and then I go to
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the next one or two pages. Okay, the next thing
you know, I got the whole script. That's so hard
to do because I'm done. Like some great guest appearances,
I might have like four lines, and I think I
have a down pat And then you get out there
and you're like, line, I see, now you remize the words. See,
you memorize the words, but the word the words don't
even really mean anything because you your emotions change the words. Right,
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So how you feeling emotionally, it will change the words.
It will make you go slow and make you go fast.
It all comes from like inside and you have to
know the backstory, like your motivation. You create the backstory. Yeah, yeah,
you created your motivation. Every scene has a scene objective,
it has um, has your own paraphrase, and it has
the the emotional statement how you feel emotionally about this word?
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Then you ask yourself, Okay, why am I doing this?
What am I doing? And then you ask yourself why
am I doing it? And then how do you feel
about that emotion? Then you give like a personal experience
with it. It's like a lot of work, a lot
of work. Every everything easy, but you have to do
that for every single word. And that's what I'm telling you.
So if I have a month to experience with this
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this material, yeah it's gonna come out. You're all in.
Would do? Would you consider directing? Ever? Yeah? Eventually correct? Yeah,
direct for sure. You're like being the good guy or
the bad guy. I like the bad guy. Yeah, we
can fail since playing that role. I like it when
you see the watch the movie the movie you are.
I don't like scary stuff like that. No, this is
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more like a thriller, but it's based off a true
story kind of right. It is harvesting, killing people. Real
life is scarier than any she loves ye. Yeah, did
you watch it? You? I think you appreciate it. Yeah.
Now what was harder for you mentally to prepare for
going to um, playing in the NFL, playing a game,
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or getting ready for a role. I'd say mentally getting
ready for a role. Yeah. I played football my entire
life pretty much, and it just became it was just
like second nature, probably because I did it for so long.
Acting is something new that I that I'm finally starting
to step into. So the challenges and the auditions and
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not getting not booking an audition can really sway you
the other way, right, make you feel like you don't
want to do it anymore, But you have to just
keep on pressing forward. There's a thing line between success
and failure. So if you just continue to just keep
going and just keep getting better, it an't work out.
You think that I'm getting a Super Bowl ring made
you feel like, okay, I can actually, because a lot
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of people will never get that as an achievement. But
that is something that's like you really work to make happen. Yeah,
you work, you work at it. You're right, It's just
like anything else, you work at it, you put the
work in and and just pray that you're you're on
a good team, right because not just about you, definite team,
although people do get blamed for yea for the whole
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team messing up. Oh yeah absolutely. Is there anything that
you would want to do back in the field of sports, like,
would you want to be a commentator? No, everybody's everybody's
always asking me that. I just I really love art.
I'm a painter. I want to scoop for painting, okay,
and you know with the acting and producing and music,
I love all that stuff and creativity. I have a
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show that I'm working on right now. Yeah, I'm just
always creating all the time. Were you're able to be
creative while you were playing in the league or do
you feel like you couldn't focus on that as much
or wasn't a good outlet. I couldn't focus on it
as much, and I didn't want to. It was too much.
I felt like sometimes it could be too much for
my teammates because they wouldn't understand. They didn't quite understand,
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like the creative process. Because if you're an athlete, you
just you know, you mancho you yeah, play, but acting
and music they wouldn't fully get it. You feel like
that's changing now because I feel like the NFL has
also changed a lot, with people feeling more willing to
be able to express themselves and do things outside of
the sport. I feel like it's changing a little bit,
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but it can be when you're It's something about being creative.
Like when I was growing up as a kid, I
couldn't pursue the arts because it wasn't cool. People saw
me walking through the hallways with the canvas, they make
fun of me, so I didn't pursue it. So when
I finally arrived in college, I felt the need. I
just felt comfortable about changing my major, so I changed it, right,
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And yeah, it's just a it's always some kind of
fear associated with it. Do you collect art at all? No,
not not anymore. I used to. I used to. I
used to collect, but now I'm just focusing on the
movie stuff. And okay, because I feel like if you
did some art that could you know, sell really well. Yeah,
because I actually have started collecting art like in the
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past few years. And um, and for certain people, like
especially if they're a fan of yours already and then
to be able to purchase a piece of art. You know,
that could be I'm just saying, just throwing it out there, okay,
and we could see you at Art Basil, you know,
hey see I might have to show it off on
some of your people, Okay. And then also just even
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like Jasmine was talking about directing, but also like you said,
you've executive produced some of your projects as well. So
and you said you have something else that you're creating
that you're working on, so you feel like maybe a
production company is in the works. So yeah, I have.
I have a couple of production company companies. The one
that I did the Message from Brianna that sold the
BT plus that was a company I created with my partner. Okay,
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it's called Between the Lines Productions. Um, yes, I'm always
I had a lot of stuff that a lot. And
you also invested in the basketball teams. Yeah, did your
research Capital Classic and I own the Brisbane Bullets, which
is an Australian team. Okay, yeah, look at all these Yeah,
a lot going on, a lot going on. I've just well,
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it just crossed the table. And if it makes sense,
then it makes sense. It's like law of attraction. Like
the things that you're that you seek on, the things
that you desire to just come your way. That's how
my whole life been, Just like even with the movies,
with the Morgan Freeman movie, it just something that just happened.
Just makes sense. Yeah, in terms of investments, is there
anything that you passed on that you wish that you didn't? Yes?
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What Ring? Oh? Yeah, yeah that was a good one.
I had that right in mind. Oh that was right there. Okay,
I don't know, but you're don't okay, but yeah, that's
Ryan Reynolds with that Mint phone. M T Mobile just
bought it for one point three five billion dollars. Is crazy,
I know. And I think they said he had they
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believe like a twenty five percent ownership whatever that is. Yeah, yeah,
so Ring, you passed on Ring? Okay, I did a right,
I shouldn't have, but I did. Well, you know, it happens,
and they mean more opportunities. But sometimes investing is hard
because we also hear a lot of stories about people
investing in things and then taking big athletes in particular,
like going broke because of bad investments. That's because they
don't know what they're doing or what they look for.
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You just have to know what to look for and
what questions to ask, and what's what's available to you,
like um twenty percent discount, you know you want to.
I tend to go with companies that already have the momentum,
companies that have maybe have fifteen twenty million dollars valuation,
because if you invest in a startup, there's really no
you can't really tell what's going on. You don't know
what they expect. They're starting from the ground up. Why
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do that when you can get in on something that
has momentum, And that's what I do. I try to
look at that and then and you know, I asked
what the what the exit strategy is? And I also
want to know how many employees they have? Just all
the right questions that you need to ask. And once
you understand how that works, and once you know who's
on who's on the board of advisory, who invested, then
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that tells you a lot. If if I wh why
invest in the company? Um, if there's nobody it's like minded,
or if there's an accredited investor that I know of,
I wouldn't want to. If that's not happening, I don't
want to invest in this company. But then you feel
more comfortable when you're like, oh, this person has a
successful track successful track record, they've invested in these other
you know, companies that have done well, so I can
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I can see that they've done their research. There's a
better chance. And do your own research too. Yeah, you
do your own research too, and then you it's all
who who's who's who's bringing it to you? Right right?
Who's Yeah, because you know how many people probably be like, Yo,
I got an idea, man, this idea. Can you give
me some money for this? All I need is if
it's an idea, I'm not investing that, I'm not investing. Yeah,
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I'm not going to invest in that I did unless
it has a twenty MILLIONAR evaluation. What's the biggest mistake
you've made business ever? The biggest mistake that I made
in business ever? Because you seem like you're really good
in business like making I mean I learned from me.
I learned through experience. I just learned just learning. Okay,
so you've never made any really big, big business mistakes.
Oh yeah, I have. I invested in this Ponzi scheme,
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but I was just showing them. It was a it
was a bunch of athletes in it. Oh, be careful
when there's a bunch of athletes. You know, you lost
a lot of money. I lost a lot of money.
I lost about five hundred thousand. Yeah, there's guys that
lost millions. Yeah, but I wasn't. I I've always been conservative,
so I didn't put that much money in. Okay, Well,
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you know what, that's a good life. Less it is,
and like sometimes those losses, but teaches you not to
make those mistakes again. Exactly. I bet it'll never happened again. Either,
It'll never happen again. It'll never happen again. Never happened again.
All right, Well again, tell us all the things that
you have coming up, because I know you have a
few different film projects. I sell you posting about it.
So let us know what we can look forward to
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seeing Vernon Davis in Gosh, I think about that. I
want to prepare. Um, it's all running together. I'm saying,
the new one. You have, the new one with Morgan Freeman.
That's yeah, the new one, Tonic plan B Tonics coming out,
planing B. They Senior year, Senior year. Yet everything you say,
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literally Gunner with Morgan Freeman that I'm about to hit to.
I actually have another movie that I'm flying to Lanta
on Saturday to shoot. Okay, last minute, it's like one
of those last minutes. Some A list is in it.
So I'm gonna plug myself in. Come on some A list.
You gotta they gotta. You gotta build yourself up with
good people, are you absolutely right? Yeah? You learn and
you learn from them. So I take those those films
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when they come across. Um. Also have a production company
called Workhorse Cinema in Tipton, Georgia. My partners, we did
We've done like for Bruce Willis movies out there. Damn.
That's how I started working with Bruce too. We did
Day to Die and Ali Okay, so I'm excited about that.
That's we always, you know, we always have some unique
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projects coming through. Have you got a chance to talk
to him and or speak to him Bruce? Oh yeah,
that's my man. You could tell Bruce yeah, yeah, yeah.
We We spent a good We spent some great deal
of time together on set. He was he was phenomenal, phenomenal,
but he was going through some of the things that
he's dealing with. It was kind of winding down, but
he was. My experiences with him, you know, I wouldn't
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trade it for anything. He was. He's just a beautiful person.
It's just beautiful. I was picking his brain watching them
on set and just seeing how he just jumped into
to those scenes so fast. It was amazing. Yeah, people
don't understand when somebody is so good at acting. You
don't even see the effort that it takes right because
they're too good at it, so it's so natural you
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notice people look bad though you do. It's supposed to
look easy though, right, because then you're doing it right. Yeah,
it's supposed to look easy, but it looks like it's
a lot of effort. You're like, yeah, a lot of effort.
But like to say, if you put the time and
if you look at time and everything, it's all about
being subtle. It's all about, you know, having it come
from the inside rather than the outside. And once you learned,
once you learned the twos, the techniques, and you'll be okay,
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I got to learn. Well, thank you so much for
coming through. We really do appreciate it, and we want
to make sure everybody goes and watches the movie. We're
actually gonna I'm gonna make Jasmine watching even though she
don't like a scary movie. I love it The Ritual
Killer and stream that movie on BT plus two because
that looks good. Yes, um, Brianna A message from Brihanna.
Yea ya gotta check out this new song coming out
of call Phone. You're gonna appreciate it. Oh yeah, I
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had this girl that I was dating. I had this girl,
this girl that I was dating. She us to go
through my phone all the time while I was sleep.
So I'm sitting on I had this beat tone. Pie
sent me this beat tone. Pet my music producer, Right,
he sent me this beat and I was like, gosh,
okay phone, I ain't gonna do my phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
dope me and threeal black girl black on to come up.
(25:55):
He's amazing. You gotta hear you, gotta hear him on
this track. I thought I did good. Yeah, go back
to the phone, don't very releaf. Why is she? How
did she get in your phone? Well, she would go
through she was She would just go through my phone
and not when I was She didn't have a password
or anything on it. No, we trusted each other. And
what was she seeing when she went through your friend nothing.
(26:15):
She couldn't find anything because I wasn't just doing anything,
wasn't doing anything. I guess that's why. I guess that's
why she thought she could go through my phone because
I was giving her the password to my phone. But
she'd be up at night like this, and you caught her.
I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, what's going on? So
then I was like, I need to get line two.
Line two is a different line on my phone. So
(26:37):
I'm talking to my grandmother. My mother say we have
I'm having a conversation about her conversation. Yeah, she don't
need to see that because she can take it another way.
So I just bought line two. So on the on
the music, you hear me talk about line two. Isn't
ready to do break up over that? Ye still together?
Unfortunately we broke up over there. Um so I live
in DC. So we were listening to your song You're
(26:59):
from the DNB. Yeah so yeah, so um it does
everything go have like a go go field to with
no no, no, no, not everything. That's that's how it
started out, because that's the that's how it grew up.
I grew up. Okay, where you where'd you where'd you
go to school? Go to school in Maryland? I went
to school in Washington, d C. Okay, in proper d Okay,
I got you people got no, yeah, very particularly okay.
(27:21):
So yeah, so I have a house in northeast by
Fort Tide metro State, yes, right now, and then I
have an apartment um in southeast but like by Eastern Market.
Oh wow, that's what it's DC Proper. Yeah, but not
the it's like it's like the like the clothing line
DC Problem, DC Proper. Yeah, but no one. We were
so proud of your d because it's so all right. Okay,
(27:42):
so you're gonna put together a whole project, you think. Yeah,
we got an album called Showtime. Okay, you gotta hit
the music. Man of music is awesome. A lot of people,
a lot of people. Yeah, that was my first That
was my first song. It kind of gave me wallet vibes.
I'm not gonna lie. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like
pretty girls, she's so excited, You're like, okay, we like
(28:07):
they told me I did a song. I get Jay
told me produced something for me too. And Young Droe Okay,
that's my guy. Young Joe is like, yeah, he's the
studio just cracked. Tone, had to had to hook, and
he just came and started putting it out like this
is crazy. That's when I first started. I was like,
these dudes, just put piece of this together. This crazy
where happened? You're doing what you love Now we see
(28:29):
all the passion when you talk about the music, when
you're talking about the right. Yeah. No, it's very important
because you know somebody's favor phony. I guess it's important
and time to tell you see over time, like you
you tell you know someone serious about something, They're gonna
keep on going. They're not gonna give up. I feel
like he could turn into a killer at any second
right now on that. Thank you so much though, honestly,
(28:56):
and congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Where up
What's up. It's way up with Angela yee. I'm here
and Jasmine Brand is here. I call you. Your name
is not really Jasmine Brand, that's your website, but Jasmine
from the Jasmine Brand is here, and Vernon Davis is here.
Actor extraordinary Vernon Davis. But um, you know we're here
to talk about you're in a movie that you're in,
which is exciting. The ritual Killer. I'm a little nervous
(00:26):
sitting next to you should be very afraid. He got
into character right away to know. But so, how did
that feel for you to play a role like that
where you're actually a killer? It was? It was dope,
It was It was interesting because I never imagine myself
playing a role like that. It took a lot to
get into get into it because I had to attach
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too many things from my past life into this character.
Like you have to go really deep and dark those
moments that you've experienced when you were a kid. It
can be really harsh for some people to think in
that way, but when you're an actor, you have to
be able to live in those moments and live truthfully.
And it's not like you retired from football and just
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started acting. You've been acting, so this is something that
I mean, you've been working on it, like you've known
this is what you want to do. Yeah, I was.
I thought I knew. I thought I knew what I
was doing when I was playing ball. But I did it.
I didn't fully understand it. There was a there was
a moment when I was on I think it was ESPN.
They said vernon, let me see, let me see you
act o man, and I started like cry. It looked,
(01:35):
it looked it was cool to some people, but it's not.
That's not the craft, you know, because because when you crying,
you don't really you fight your tears. You don't really cry.
You don't want people to see you cry right in
public or in person. You just do it on purpose.
It's more it's more internally right than externally. So you
once you learn that and you learn the craft, you're like, okay,
(01:56):
I get that. Look silly, So now you can cry.
I give it. I can get really emotional. I mean
I do it weekly. I practice even if I'm not
getting a job every week, well not crying, and necessarily
I practiced like the emotion of of it all. So
what do you think about just well, when you're doing
so much, it's just a Nate. Okay. It's just like
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if you haven't seen, if I haven't seen what I'm arguing,
or I'm upset with somebody, and then I'm gonna get
really I can get really frustrated, really and you just
come on. It's just because it lives in you, just
like a muscle. Okay, when you practice so much, that's
that's all it is. When did you know you wanted
to act and you wanted to take it seriously. I
knew I wanted to take it seriously when um, probably
(02:38):
my last year playing football. Yeah, I know I wanted
to take it serious. What it was it was a moment, well,
I was on this I did this movie called Hell
in the Border and it was probably like the biggest
role I had I've ever had in my entire career
playing football. So when I when that happened, I was like, well,
I want to continue to do this. This feels good.
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I know I can do it because I felt really
confident about my performance. It wasn't the best to me
now that I look back, because there's a lot of
things I could have changed, but that was the moment
right there, and you knew that was going to be
your last year playing football. No, I didn't know. I
didn't know at all. I had I had a concussion
and my granddad died, and I wanted I was ready
(03:21):
to move on. I couldn't go on. I couldn't play
play anymore. I wanted to step away and do something different.
And you and your brother both played in the NFL.
So what was it like how you guys were raised
at home? Was it something that, like, you know, your
family was really into sports and no, yeah, no, we
didn't really have anybody in our family playing ball. It
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was it was like our only outlet. It was the
only way out. You had to play sports, and if
we were going to make it, we had to be
really good at it. And I understood that. So I
took my brother. I would take him with me to
go work out at night or in the morning because
I wanted to see him excel as well. I knew
where I was going, but I just had that. I
also knew I had to put the work in. Do
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you feel like it's harder just coming from being an athlete?
And sometimes people might not give you the benefit of
the doubt, right because sometimes it's harder when people know
who you are in a certain field and they're like, oh,
now this guy you know wants to act. Do you
feel like you have more to prove to people? Because
you have to really come and I think overly succeed
when you're doing something different. Yeah, when you're doing something
(04:24):
like acting, because you know, a lot of times, like
you said, some people feel like I could just step
into this. People know me, so that's going to help
with the marketing. Already, I'm an actor and some people
might feel like, oh, you got this role because of X,
Y and Z, so for you do you feel like
you have more to prove? No, I don't really feel
like I have anything to prove. I'm doing it because
it's fun and I enjoy it. I don't really. I'm
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not really too. I'm not worried about the fame from
it or the it just feels good. It's just going
to be like he was amazing, you know. Yeah. It's
just like I take the same work ethic that I
had in football and I apply to whatever else i'm
and I do it with acting, and that's just putting
the work in. I sit there every day, daily and
(05:06):
just I'm always focused on the craft. So what did
that look like for you daily when you're what is
focusing on the craft? Looked like reading the script every day,
working with my act working with my acting coach two
three times a week, every every week throughout the year. Okay,
and doing it for continuing to do it for the
rest of my life and that stuff. So this is it,
this is your You definitely want to act forever. I
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feel like I do. You can. I look up to
guys like Morgan Freeman. He's say five, and he's still
doing it, and I've been being in a movie. But
Morgan Freeman, though, let's take a moment to even think
about that. That's major. Yeah, we're actually getting ready to
do another one. What one called Gunner I played. I played.
I played his son, ridiculous with makeup right makeup and
(05:52):
yeah no but I yeah, I'm playing the son in
this one. We Yes, it's gonna be pretty cool. But
the one I just had called the Richel Kill, that
was that was cool. So that's a true story. It's
based on a true story, all right, So tell us
the true story for people who haven't seen the movie
and don't know it. So harvesting body parts, and Africa
has been said too. It's a ritual where you're you're
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selling to people who want to feel more powerful, and
people with money come to this tribe called the same
Goma tribe and they buy this concoction that's made of
body parts, golden herbs, and now they're more powerful, they
can see better, they can think better, they're stronger. So
that's what you're It is very disturbing, and that's why
(06:37):
I say, when you know, attaching some of the moments
for my life to this character, I had anxiety after
the film was over because every day I'm fine, when
I'm in my hotel and I'm coming out, I was fine.
But when I put on these garments of this character,
I started my mannerism, my face change. I can just
feel it in my whole body, just like everything. Yeah,
that's wild. How did you be compressed after the project
(06:58):
was over? I had a therapist. Okay that the therapist.
I did some yoga, started meditating more and just getting
myself back because people don't understand, like I spent like
a month and a half two months with this this
guy that I created. I spent a month two months
with him, and I became him. It was crazy. It
felt so good killing all these people in the man
(07:18):
Like I'm saying that right now. I'm just saying it. Yeah,
as an act, it felt it was fulfilling. It was
like the trailer was very very it was like I
was releasing something. It was like I was releasing some
demons from the past. That that's what felt good. So
I didn't want to stop. So when you when you
get done with that, you have to really make sure it. Yeah, decompressing,
(07:41):
just you know, just fine. Two things. Remember you were
telling us that Queen Latifa has a clause in her contract?
Do you have any what clauses do you have in
your contracts? Like Queen Latifa cannot get killed in a movie? No,
I don't have that, but do you yeah? Clear? But
like for you, do you have anything that you won't
do that you're like, because I know people have certain
things in their contracts that they're like, Okay, it depends
(08:04):
on it depends on the material. I don't think anyone
will offer me anything crazy. I have to read it
and make sure it's something that I want to do
right before I, you know, sign the contract. And you
also executive produced to write you did the movie what
was it called Red Red one and a message from Brianna. Okay,
(08:26):
oh my god, we saw this trailer for that. Yeah, listen,
you know I love a horror movie. She loves check
it out. Yeah, look, Jasmine said, because she has a
young daughter, Yeah, I have a like she's almost two.
And so when I seen in the trailer the girl
get snatched up, I was like, I was like, not
the baby, and then the baby's staying on top of
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the it. I was like, oh my god. Yeah that
was fun. That was fun. I funded that one, that
entire film myself. Wow, to make sure. Let's make sure
we run it up. Yeah, we need to watch the second.
That was my second film after retiring. Really. Yeah, what's
your favorite genre of movies? Oh gosh, that's a good question.
I like action. I can see that. Yeah. I like
(09:08):
a lot of action. But I also like playing unique characters.
I have this movie coming out called Tonic, while I
played an award winning jazz pianist. Oh that's dope. Yeah,
that's dope. Look at this most all these multifacting yeah,
rolls nice and quick too. Well, it's like it's like
a it's a challenge, you know, it's a challenge to
like when you put the work in and and becoming
(09:28):
that character and just finding the identity, doing the backstory
and just all the work that you got to put in.
It's just it's so much fun. Is that method acting
or what the type of I know they have different
names for that. I don't know enough, but I know
they do method acting. So it's a combination of Ivana,
Chubbig and Meisner. I use both. So when I when
I got done, I went to like several different classes
(09:50):
I started going. I went to LA and I started
to audit classes set in and just learned every little
technique and then what happens You put it together and
make it your own right, and the you come up
what works for you, Like what's your process of breaking
down the script and trying to figure out this character
and being creative. And then when you said that action movies,
do you can so you can do your own stunts? Yeah?
(10:11):
I did my own stuns in the Ritual Killer. Okay,
you check it out. You check it out. You see
me climbing down the side of building. Have you gotten hurt? Yeah? No, Okay.
I feel like it's rare for athletes to successfully transition
into acting, Like, we don't see a lot of athletes
you know, well the Rock. No, not a lot. It's
not a lot. Rare. Yeah, it's rare. So what do
(10:33):
you think do you think there will be more of
athletes like you that transition into acting and are as
successful because it's not a lot. That's just what I'm saying. Yeah,
there are something, No, for sure, it's not a lot. Yeah,
so that goes back to I think that probably goes
back to your reasoning, your purpose of wanting to be
an actor. I get approached all the time NFL players.
(10:54):
I'm sure they see you come out with Morgan Freeman,
they see me with Bruce willis the big deal. They
see me with all the people, and they're like, I
want to act. I want to do that. The first
thing I want to tell is like, are you gonna
put the work in? You gotta put the work in, man,
Like this I didn't. I mean, this is what I do.
I do this all the time. I practice. I'm with
my coach every week. You gotta be willing to do that. Like,
(11:15):
if you can't do this, you have to have discipline. Yeah,
because everybody want to do something right everybody want to rap,
make music. Everybody wants to make music too. Now I do. Yah,
we watch, we were watching. I'm in the studio every week.
I'm in the studio every week. I'm getting better. I'm
just finding myself. So this is stuff, the stuff that
I'm doing now and be doing it throughout my life. Whatever. Yeah, yeah,
(11:35):
it's it's my thing. It's what I do. Um, it's
not what I'm trying to do. Is I actually do it?
You know? But most athletes they try to do it.
That's why they don't excel at it. They get busy,
they step away from it, they come back to it.
They don't see that's that's what it is. They just
want to step in and use their name and use
what they have when they created through football, and they
(11:56):
think that's enough. But that's not enough. What type of
the I said, Morgan Freeman, give you because I can
see you guys have a good relationship. Y'all just did
the Ritual Killer together. You said you're gonna be in
another movie. So what I mean being that he took
a liking to you. Did he also say, all right, son,
here's you know some things you need to do. You
gotta you're not sounding like him right now? You have
to do the voice. God, No, I don't know if
(12:19):
I can sound like Morgan? Can you sound like him?
I don't know. Let's try it. Let's try it. Well.
He's like, if I hear him, if I hear him again,
I can probably do it. But I can't. I can't
do I got I don't got him down yet. Um,
but no, he just gave me. He just talked. He's
like a coach on set. It's interesting because we haven't
(12:41):
seen and he just talked to me like, oh okay,
try this, try this, try it like this. It's like, okay,
you get it, you get it. He's just this quiet voice.
He's just interesting person. He's like a coach and a
and an actor. I really appreciate that, and I respect
it because for him to be eighty five years old.
You don't you don't have to help out, you don't
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have to do anything. You just come to work and
go back to its trailer. Right. Yeah, she's amazing. And
then if you think about it, like a director, it's
kind of like a coach too, you know, being able,
you know, being able to follow what someone's telling you
to do and run those plays. Yes, is that is
that why you're do you find it easy to remember
scripts because you always had to remember plays or No,
(13:23):
it's a different process I have to come up with.
So what I do is if I have a if
I have a script in front of me, what I do.
I'll take it page by page and I'll I'll do breakfast, breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, and I'll just get the words and then
I'll record it on my voice memo. Okay, instead of
listening to music, I listened to my voice to the lines.
So every day or every two days, I have like
one or two pages memorized, and then I go to
(13:43):
the next one or two pages. Okay, the next thing
you know, I got the whole script. That's so hard
to do because I'm done. Like some great guest appearances,
I might have like four lines, and I think I
have a down pat And then you get out there
and you're like, line, I see, now you remize the words. See,
you memorize the words, but the word the words don't
even really mean anything because you your emotions change the words. Right,
(14:05):
So how you feeling emotionally, it will change the words.
It will make you go slow and make you go fast.
It all comes from like inside and you have to
know the backstory, like your motivation. You create the backstory. Yeah, yeah,
you created your motivation. Every scene has a scene objective,
it has um, has your own paraphrase, and it has
the the emotional statement how you feel emotionally about this word?
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Then you ask yourself, Okay, why am I doing this?
What am I doing? And then you ask yourself why
am I doing it? And then how do you feel
about that emotion? Then you give like a personal experience
with it. It's like a lot of work, a lot
of work. Every everything easy, but you have to do
that for every single word. And that's what I'm telling you.
So if I have a month to experience with this
(14:46):
this material, yeah it's gonna come out. You're all in.
Would do? Would you consider directing? Ever? Yeah? Eventually correct? Yeah,
direct for sure. You're like being the good guy or
the bad guy. I like the bad guy. Yeah, we
can fail since playing that role. I like it when
you see the watch the movie the movie you are.
I don't like scary stuff like that. No, this is
(15:07):
more like a thriller, but it's based off a true
story kind of right. It is harvesting, killing people. Real
life is scarier than any she loves ye. Yeah, did
you watch it? You? I think you appreciate it. Yeah.
Now what was harder for you mentally to prepare for
going to um, playing in the NFL, playing a game,
(15:28):
or getting ready for a role. I'd say mentally getting
ready for a role. Yeah. I played football my entire
life pretty much, and it just became it was just
like second nature, probably because I did it for so long.
Acting is something new that I that I'm finally starting
to step into. So the challenges and the auditions and
(15:51):
not getting not booking an audition can really sway you
the other way, right, make you feel like you don't
want to do it anymore, But you have to just
keep on pressing forward. There's a thing line between success
and failure. So if you just continue to just keep
going and just keep getting better, it an't work out.
You think that I'm getting a Super Bowl ring made
you feel like, okay, I can actually, because a lot
(16:15):
of people will never get that as an achievement. But
that is something that's like you really work to make happen. Yeah,
you work, you work at it. You're right, It's just
like anything else, you work at it, you put the
work in and and just pray that you're you're on
a good team, right because not just about you, definite team,
although people do get blamed for yea for the whole
(16:36):
team messing up. Oh yeah absolutely. Is there anything that
you would want to do back in the field of sports, like,
would you want to be a commentator? No, everybody's everybody's
always asking me that. I just I really love art.
I'm a painter. I want to scoop for painting, okay,
and you know with the acting and producing and music,
I love all that stuff and creativity. I have a
(16:59):
show that I'm working on right now. Yeah, I'm just
always creating all the time. Were you're able to be
creative while you were playing in the league or do
you feel like you couldn't focus on that as much
or wasn't a good outlet. I couldn't focus on it
as much, and I didn't want to. It was too much.
I felt like sometimes it could be too much for
my teammates because they wouldn't understand. They didn't quite understand,
(17:19):
like the creative process. Because if you're an athlete, you
just you know, you mancho you yeah, play, but acting
and music they wouldn't fully get it. You feel like
that's changing now because I feel like the NFL has
also changed a lot, with people feeling more willing to
be able to express themselves and do things outside of
the sport. I feel like it's changing a little bit,
(17:41):
but it can be when you're It's something about being creative.
Like when I was growing up as a kid, I
couldn't pursue the arts because it wasn't cool. People saw
me walking through the hallways with the canvas, they make
fun of me, so I didn't pursue it. So when
I finally arrived in college, I felt the need. I
just felt comfortable about changing my major, so I changed it, right,
(18:02):
And yeah, it's just a it's always some kind of
fear associated with it. Do you collect art at all? No,
not not anymore. I used to. I used to. I
used to collect, but now I'm just focusing on the
movie stuff. And okay, because I feel like if you
did some art that could you know, sell really well. Yeah,
because I actually have started collecting art like in the
(18:24):
past few years. And um, and for certain people, like
especially if they're a fan of yours already and then
to be able to purchase a piece of art. You know,
that could be I'm just saying, just throwing it out there, okay,
and we could see you at Art Basil, you know,
hey see I might have to show it off on
some of your people, Okay. And then also just even
(18:45):
like Jasmine was talking about directing, but also like you said,
you've executive produced some of your projects as well. So
and you said you have something else that you're creating
that you're working on, so you feel like maybe a
production company is in the works. So yeah, I have.
I have a couple of production company companies. The one
that I did the Message from Brianna that sold the
BT plus that was a company I created with my partner. Okay,
(19:06):
it's called Between the Lines Productions. Um, yes, I'm always
I had a lot of stuff that a lot. And
you also invested in the basketball teams. Yeah, did your
research Capital Classic and I own the Brisbane Bullets, which
is an Australian team. Okay, yeah, look at all these Yeah,
a lot going on, a lot going on. I've just well,
(19:28):
it just crossed the table. And if it makes sense,
then it makes sense. It's like law of attraction. Like
the things that you're that you seek on, the things
that you desire to just come your way. That's how
my whole life been, Just like even with the movies,
with the Morgan Freeman movie, it just something that just happened.
Just makes sense. Yeah, in terms of investments, is there
anything that you passed on that you wish that you didn't? Yes?
(19:50):
What Ring? Oh? Yeah, yeah that was a good one.
I had that right in mind. Oh that was right there. Okay,
I don't know, but you're don't okay, but yeah, that's
Ryan Reynolds with that Mint phone. M T Mobile just
bought it for one point three five billion dollars. Is crazy,
I know. And I think they said he had they
(20:12):
believe like a twenty five percent ownership whatever that is. Yeah, yeah,
so Ring, you passed on Ring? Okay, I did a right,
I shouldn't have, but I did. Well, you know, it happens,
and they mean more opportunities. But sometimes investing is hard
because we also hear a lot of stories about people
investing in things and then taking big athletes in particular,
like going broke because of bad investments. That's because they
don't know what they're doing or what they look for.
(20:33):
You just have to know what to look for and
what questions to ask, and what's what's available to you,
like um twenty percent discount, you know you want to.
I tend to go with companies that already have the momentum,
companies that have maybe have fifteen twenty million dollars valuation,
because if you invest in a startup, there's really no
you can't really tell what's going on. You don't know
what they expect. They're starting from the ground up. Why
(20:54):
do that when you can get in on something that
has momentum, And that's what I do. I try to
look at that and then and you know, I asked
what the what the exit strategy is? And I also
want to know how many employees they have? Just all
the right questions that you need to ask. And once
you understand how that works, and once you know who's
on who's on the board of advisory, who invested, then
(21:16):
that tells you a lot. If if I wh why
invest in the company? Um, if there's nobody it's like minded,
or if there's an accredited investor that I know of,
I wouldn't want to. If that's not happening, I don't
want to invest in this company. But then you feel
more comfortable when you're like, oh, this person has a
successful track successful track record, they've invested in these other
you know, companies that have done well, so I can
(21:38):
I can see that they've done their research. There's a
better chance. And do your own research too. Yeah, you
do your own research too, and then you it's all
who who's who's who's bringing it to you? Right right?
Who's Yeah, because you know how many people probably be like, Yo,
I got an idea, man, this idea. Can you give
me some money for this? All I need is if
it's an idea, I'm not investing that, I'm not investing. Yeah,
(21:58):
I'm not going to invest in that I did unless
it has a twenty MILLIONAR evaluation. What's the biggest mistake
you've made business ever? The biggest mistake that I made
in business ever? Because you seem like you're really good
in business like making I mean I learned from me.
I learned through experience. I just learned just learning. Okay,
so you've never made any really big, big business mistakes.
Oh yeah, I have. I invested in this Ponzi scheme,
(22:20):
but I was just showing them. It was a it
was a bunch of athletes in it. Oh, be careful
when there's a bunch of athletes. You know, you lost
a lot of money. I lost a lot of money.
I lost about five hundred thousand. Yeah, there's guys that
lost millions. Yeah, but I wasn't. I I've always been conservative,
so I didn't put that much money in. Okay, Well,
(22:40):
you know what, that's a good life. Less it is,
and like sometimes those losses, but teaches you not to
make those mistakes again. Exactly. I bet it'll never happened again. Either,
It'll never happen again. It'll never happen again. Never happened again.
All right, Well again, tell us all the things that
you have coming up, because I know you have a
few different film projects. I sell you posting about it.
So let us know what we can look forward to
(23:01):
seeing Vernon Davis in Gosh, I think about that. I
want to prepare. Um, it's all running together. I'm saying,
the new one. You have, the new one with Morgan Freeman.
That's yeah, the new one, Tonic plan B Tonics coming out,
planing B. They Senior year, Senior year. Yet everything you say,
(23:25):
literally Gunner with Morgan Freeman that I'm about to hit to.
I actually have another movie that I'm flying to Lanta
on Saturday to shoot. Okay, last minute, it's like one
of those last minutes. Some A list is in it.
So I'm gonna plug myself in. Come on some A list.
You gotta they gotta. You gotta build yourself up with
good people, are you absolutely right? Yeah? You learn and
you learn from them. So I take those those films
(23:46):
when they come across. Um. Also have a production company
called Workhorse Cinema in Tipton, Georgia. My partners, we did
We've done like for Bruce Willis movies out there. Damn.
That's how I started working with Bruce too. We did
Day to Die and Ali Okay, so I'm excited about that.
That's we always, you know, we always have some unique
(24:06):
projects coming through. Have you got a chance to talk
to him and or speak to him Bruce? Oh yeah,
that's my man. You could tell Bruce yeah, yeah, yeah.
We We spent a good We spent some great deal
of time together on set. He was he was phenomenal, phenomenal,
but he was going through some of the things that
he's dealing with. It was kind of winding down, but
he was. My experiences with him, you know, I wouldn't
(24:29):
trade it for anything. He was. He's just a beautiful person.
It's just beautiful. I was picking his brain watching them
on set and just seeing how he just jumped into
to those scenes so fast. It was amazing. Yeah, people
don't understand when somebody is so good at acting. You
don't even see the effort that it takes right because
they're too good at it, so it's so natural you
(24:49):
notice people look bad though you do. It's supposed to
look easy though, right, because then you're doing it right. Yeah,
it's supposed to look easy, but it looks like it's
a lot of effort. You're like, yeah, a lot of effort.
But like to say, if you put the time and
if you look at time and everything, it's all about
being subtle. It's all about, you know, having it come
from the inside rather than the outside. And once you learned,
once you learned the twos, the techniques, and you'll be okay,
(25:11):
I got to learn. Well, thank you so much for
coming through. We really do appreciate it, and we want
to make sure everybody goes and watches the movie. We're
actually gonna I'm gonna make Jasmine watching even though she
don't like a scary movie. I love it The Ritual
Killer and stream that movie on BT plus two because
that looks good. Yes, um, Brianna A message from Brihanna.
Yea ya gotta check out this new song coming out
of call Phone. You're gonna appreciate it. Oh yeah, I
(25:33):
had this girl that I was dating. I had this girl,
this girl that I was dating. She us to go
through my phone all the time while I was sleep.
So I'm sitting on I had this beat tone. Pie
sent me this beat tone. Pet my music producer, Right,
he sent me this beat and I was like, gosh,
okay phone, I ain't gonna do my phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
dope me and threeal black girl black on to come up.
(25:55):
He's amazing. You gotta hear you, gotta hear him on
this track. I thought I did good. Yeah, go back
to the phone, don't very releaf. Why is she? How
did she get in your phone? Well, she would go
through she was She would just go through my phone
and not when I was She didn't have a password
or anything on it. No, we trusted each other. And
what was she seeing when she went through your friend nothing.
(26:15):
She couldn't find anything because I wasn't just doing anything,
wasn't doing anything. I guess that's why. I guess that's
why she thought she could go through my phone because
I was giving her the password to my phone. But
she'd be up at night like this, and you caught her.
I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, what's going on? So
then I was like, I need to get line two.
Line two is a different line on my phone. So
(26:37):
I'm talking to my grandmother. My mother say we have
I'm having a conversation about her conversation. Yeah, she don't
need to see that because she can take it another way.
So I just bought line two. So on the on
the music, you hear me talk about line two. Isn't
ready to do break up over that? Ye still together?
Unfortunately we broke up over there. Um so I live
in DC. So we were listening to your song You're
(26:59):
from the DNB. Yeah so yeah, so um it does
everything go have like a go go field to with
no no, no, no, not everything. That's that's how it
started out, because that's the that's how it grew up.
I grew up. Okay, where you where'd you where'd you
go to school? Go to school in Maryland? I went
to school in Washington, d C. Okay, in proper d Okay,
I got you people got no, yeah, very particularly okay.
(27:21):
So yeah, so I have a house in northeast by
Fort Tide metro State, yes, right now, and then I
have an apartment um in southeast but like by Eastern Market.
Oh wow, that's what it's DC Proper. Yeah, but not
the it's like it's like the like the clothing line
DC Problem, DC Proper. Yeah, but no one. We were
so proud of your d because it's so all right. Okay,
(27:42):
so you're gonna put together a whole project, you think. Yeah,
we got an album called Showtime. Okay, you gotta hit
the music. Man of music is awesome. A lot of people,
a lot of people. Yeah, that was my first That
was my first song. It kind of gave me wallet vibes.
I'm not gonna lie. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like
pretty girls, she's so excited, You're like, okay, we like
(28:07):
they told me I did a song. I get Jay
told me produced something for me too. And Young Droe Okay,
that's my guy. Young Joe is like, yeah, he's the
studio just cracked. Tone, had to had to hook, and
he just came and started putting it out like this
is crazy. That's when I first started. I was like,
these dudes, just put piece of this together. This crazy
where happened? You're doing what you love Now we see
(28:29):
all the passion when you talk about the music, when
you're talking about the right. Yeah. No, it's very important
because you know somebody's favor phony. I guess it's important
and time to tell you see over time, like you
you tell you know someone serious about something, They're gonna
keep on going. They're not gonna give up. I feel
like he could turn into a killer at any second
right now on that. Thank you so much though, honestly,
(28:56):
and congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Where up
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