Zach Hirsch & Lamar Odom Discuss Upcoming Jake Paul Vs. Mike Tyson Fight, New Podcast + More
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up His way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela
Yee and I'm joined by my host Mano and my
guest co host dij Maguire. Hello, all right, and today
we're talking about keeping up with sports podcasts. We have
Zach Hirsch here and lamar Odo. What's some guys listen
this podcast? I feel like it's been talked about for
some time now, and then the date, I guess has
(00:22):
been delayed and pushed back, but now it's finally coming
out in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's been the hold up?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh no, We've just been working hard every day.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, it's on you definitely not but uh, we were
we were waiting to speak to you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Oh okay, this is where you're really gonna let it,
let it out absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So you guys recorded already a few episodes, right, this's
in the can. And so we've been hearing some rumblings
about who's going to be featured. So we do know
some of the people that will be on. Who's who's
going to be on the podcast?
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Oh Sugar ray m.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We had Ambrose to go with the ball Head.
Speaker 7 (01:05):
We have some couple of was not just no, we
had Jada kiss on.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, of course that's your guy.
Speaker 8 (01:14):
Yeah, of course it's my brother Steve O.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And so you guys as far as coming together, because
Kaitlyn Jenner is also one of the hosts on the
podcast to Who. By the way, I noticed she hasn't
been doing the press around it the way y'all have
been doing.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, tomorrow she gets here, we're doing a show together.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, do you so, Lamar, we know you know Caitlyn,
But Zach, did you know Caitlyn prior to.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I didn't know. I didn't know Lamar or Caitlyn. I
had similar friends to Lamar. Obviously he knows kiss two
and some other people. But no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And what were your what was your impression from sitting
down and because that's something to be thrown into the
mix of people that you never met before.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, absolutely, It's an honor to be with two legends,
you know, two olympians. Caitlyn drafted the n B a
gold medalist athlete, like I have so much respect for,
you know, both of them as athletes as a sports
guy growing up.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
My whole life, your.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Whole life, which is a young life, a young life.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Three years.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So the whole point of the podcast is to humanize
people right and talk about the more human side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, it's definitely not the bad or put down or
anything like that. We've been getting a good response. I
think most of our interview has been like therapeutic for
the people that we're interviewing.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
See, that's that's different though, because now we're in an
age of everything and everybody want to go viral.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Yeah. I think the only like only clickbait mm hmm
that I show is probably just the name.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, I would think, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
to make people right, you know, look real quick and
they know what that means.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Everybody trying to go for these sound bites and these
stories that nobody even asked them before.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm not about that life. I've been through too much
much myself.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What You're resistant to that title, like you said, because
it is kind of clickbait?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, at first I was like, well, you know why
they choose that, But then you know, think about it
on me and brutes, I mean, me and Kaitlyn on it.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You know, why not it's just a name?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I mean yeah, both was kind of like y'all really
was on the show.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
Yeah, it was not like.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
In the family.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, and then you know, once you family, you always family, right, you.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Know what I'm yeah, So it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Now I want to ask you guys to you know, Lamar,
we know you have a lot of other ventors outside
of this too, and I see you've been getting into
a lot of different entrepreneurial spaces, right, and I so
you did open up a facility also for people who
have struggled with addiction.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm trying to right now, trying to open up my
own drug we have. That's that's need to my heart.
You know what I'm saying, Okay, to help people that
can't help themselves, right.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think that would be a phenomenal thing to do,
just because of the journey that you've been on to
be able to say, Okay, I want to help somebody else.
And who better than somebody that knows what that struggle
has been like.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, I definitely know what that struggle has been like.
You know, I don't get high no more. I'm proud
to say that last time I got twenty fifteen since
that accident, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Mean, it's nine years. That's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, I don't even count the time, but now just
leave it to guard.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Right. And then you started a cannabis company as well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, it's called Oldham Grown. That's like the healthy alternative.
I mean to know, it was for me, so is it?
Speaker 9 (04:22):
It's CBD nice?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But isn't it crazy that marijuana is legal now?
Speaker 10 (04:29):
Treasure, I'm like, I'm in New York crazy.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
But you know we hustle everything and give our New
York facility.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, it's say it's an app for senior kid. It's
like the Zilo sor for senior Kid.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, you gotta listen. You got a lot going on.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm trying to make it a lot of people to.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Help business ventures and Zach, we know that you've been
in this space of podcasting and sports, like you said,
your whole life. So talk to me about how you
guys actually did come together. Somebody put you all together.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Right Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, A friend of mine's name Steve m'connell put us
together and came up with this idea and I was
with it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And so I want to ask you that guys, since
this is keeping up of sports, you know, just some
sports questions. First of all, the w NBA. Let's talk
about that for a second. Yes, how exciting is the
w NBA for you guys right now?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I love the evolution like these girls is making moves
and making shots and handling the ball like the best
players in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Do you know what I'm saying? So hopefully they could
get paid a little bit more, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They get to fly private, which I thought was amazing
because imagine like the things that you have to go through,
the stress, like being in the airport is a safety thing.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine in the NBA they
used to you know, they used to fly commercial. I
couldn't even imagine that, like being Michael Jordan in nineteen
eighty six, nineteen.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Eighty seven commercial first class is sold out.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
They don't do that no more, don't teams.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
All the teams got private playing, but.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
They was flying first class. So it's probably like the
whole team, but.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It's you know, first class.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Is how many seats was split up though, like six
the bombs in the front and the nice niggas in
the front and the bump.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
In the back.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Shower in this jersey, they wouldn't have time to clean
it and they'd hop on the plane.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
Yeah wow, he said.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The playoffs have been really good though civil fire too,
so I know that's been exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Do you bet because I know you're known for that, So.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
I don't bet.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I give the picks out, you know, I think that
would affect my thought process if I was bettering them.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so you've never been like I should.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
When I started, I couldn't even bet legally, so it
just I never started.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You could be like a cash cow over here to
help the people.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
The NBA. I don't you know. Of course I could win,
but longest Boston don't win.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I hate watch that game.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Yesterday the Nicks.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I was, I was, I was working, I had to.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Do another show.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Was the chef Hell's Kitchen going around. I did that
with my kids yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Your kids are so grown now, by the way.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They got bit quick and I just came down here,
so I wasn't even Me and l J watched the game,
the last game in the car, the Denver game in
the Car.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The games have been like amazing, They're.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Good, They're gonna get better and better. Somebody win it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then I also want to talk about boxing with
you guys, because we're getting ready for Mike Tyson and
Jake Paul and I know you're cool with yeah, yeah, whatever,
what's your prediction for that, Jake Paul knockout?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Jake Paul knockout? That it's it's the only clauses in there.
Mike can't knock him out?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Is that prof It's a profile sanctioned by the Texas
Athletic Commission, no holds barred. They're using a little bit
bigger loves fourteen ounces, but no head, you're nothing like that.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
It's bro.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
It's going on Mike's record forever, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Two minute rounds?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, two minutes rounds. But I mean that's I mean
that was more for Mike obviously, so.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But what so what about the clauses about might not
being able to know?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Is that true?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
It's illegal for a pro fight.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Okay, cool, So there's a lot of prison time and stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
If Mike lose. We tanned that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Ready, let's keep ready, Okay, even though.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
What do you think is going to happen, I'm not
asking what you want to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I know Mike gonna have problems with him. This dude
is in his prime, his athletic career, even he don't
gotta be a good boxer. You know, Mike probably gonna
get tired quick.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
He'll be fifty boxing fight.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
When is the fight happening again?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
July twentieth.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I know he's in the best shape of his life
and all that, but you gotta be like we we
and I don't talk my mic I'm saying, we have
to be realistic, like he's not.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He's what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It's gonna be a good fight.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
If Tyson, if he slips up and Tyson can connect
with some of those shots.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, but I know when you you get older, you're
you're gonna lose your strength. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Power.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You might his power, so there, his power is definitely there.
You may you may lose speed, right, but his boxing
i Q is still the same.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Right, So he's able to study like you know what
I mean what I'm saying, you might think you're going
like this, You're going like this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I mean, I want no disrespect to Jake Paul because
this dude has trained itself to be like a professional
or for you from YouTube, So I respect that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Hush, you gotta respect that yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Him being big bro like almost crying with Mike.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I was crying a little bit, like I shed a
cheer when we lost to Lennox Lewis. That was hard
for me to take.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, I can imagine. But that's Jake plusure guys. So
that's why I.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Love Uncle Mike too.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
But I just I don't think he wow. I don't
think his style is.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Going to age.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Well, you know, pikaboots, real tiring, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What round you think if you said a knockout, I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Agree with that.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I don't agree with that, but I respect that over here.
The style, like because Mike got the head movement and
all that, well.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Very energy taxic it is, it is.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's it wins fights though, because at the end of
the day, you stay moving a lot of times when
you mobile, when you're stand right there in front of somebody.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Somebody when he was twenty to thirty five.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
Damn thirty years from thirty years is Jake Paul six
twenty seven the prime, don't get no quicker and all that.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But it is Jake. Jake Paul is not known for
his speed. He has power, though he's not known for.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
His speed, He's built his power up.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
He has power.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
He put on like forty pounds. Who he knocked the
funk out though? Who is that? He not the that
box that one? No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay, that's his man, Okay, Nate Robinson dirty.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah he did that UFC thirty two Woodley.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah, but he lost his first professional fight, his first
against the pessional box. I guess against a professional boxer. Okay,
that's correct.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Tommy Ferry for his little brother.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Well, fair enough, hopefully, Tommy.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And then he says, we're talking about when it comes
to Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney, what are your thoughts
about everything that happened with all of the hoopla after
the fight on.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I mean, you know, the kid Garcia, if he was
taking steroids or whatever, they're wrong, Yeah, I don't. I
think somebody life in there, right.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
So it was caught by VADA, which is a privately
organization who was also very close to Devin Haney's training
conditioning coach, uh Victor Kante, who also got caught in
Balco at Barry Bond in serve prison time. So it
just seems really sketchy that he would take a psarm
two days before his boxing match.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
That wouldn't even help. They said that.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
They said that whatever they found it, it was so
minuscule they wouldn't even help them. It's like a pinch
of the right when it wouldn't it helped when it
it was like one billion of right. It was too
less of of of a substance.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
The matter.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Did he take it purposely and.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
He took a supplement like I think.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It's a little teeny bit, but you need the b
sample will show how much you know it was really
in the system.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right now, I want to ask you, Lamar, just
coming from the side of an athlete and you talk
about the more human side. A lot of times when
you're on the court as a NBA player, people will
criticize you and go crazy and just say like the
most disrespectful things, and they feel like you're supposed to
take it because you know you're getting paid all this.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
Money well from a fan, like on.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
The court and even online and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean, well online is a different thing, but if
you want to court, then that's they right on off
the court.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
I mean literally like got haptic skin.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't know you take a skin on court though, right,
I mean anytime you really don't want to let your
emotions overrun anything you do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Has anything ever bothered you, like to the point where
you wanted to run up on somebody, I'm pretty.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Sure it has.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You know, I was on the team that took a
lot of losses my first year. Repeat to them, I
can't really remember anything off the top of my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And what about like mental health services for the like
you see Ben Simmons, Uh, you know who had been
talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Struggling with mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But do they provide like real services in the NBA
for people, because that is also something like every now
and then you gotta lose.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But that's not easy either.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not being out of the
NBA like ten fifteen years. I'm pretty sure right now
they're addressing those type of.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Things within the league.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You feel like that would have helped you at the
time that you were there.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm pretty sure any you know, anybody that had some
positive influence to help me. You know, I lost a
lot of money. I was smoking weed when I was
supposed to you know what I'm saying, suspended type of
doing dumb shit like that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
So you feel like you have stronger role models or
people that you respected.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean it really like when I was on
the Clippers. You know, my first year, you know, I
was the highest paid you know what I'm saying, So
and all the other dudes on my team. You know,
my team was known for not renewing the players contract,
(15:02):
so they know they wasn't gonna come back to that team.
So everybody was like really acting up knowing that they
was gonna leave there. You know what I mean, I
ain't really have nobody come on, let's get in the gym.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
You know what I'm saying. It was.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I was in the club as a proud Clipper, you know,
it wasn't even really going to the club like that,
So I had opened them all the way up.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wow, that club will get to you every time when
you see people writing and then you're like, you know,
they got a game tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean, but that's part of the lifestyle, you
know what I mean. You just got to maintain.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Amber Rose about since the girl.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Just about all life, you know, what kid.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Things like that, like what sports your kids play.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It was a good.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Conversation, yeah, just because I know there's a lot of
athletes on the show. But then I'm like, okay, it
was Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
We had a on there too. Yeah, over to anybody
that's older him in the box, don't call.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, that went through a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But yeah, we talked about, you know, his traumatic brain injury,
you know, after a fight.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
I mean then you know, but his brain open, he
was awake, he was.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
About to die. Yeah, wow, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Ye did y'all talk about the fact that he actually,
I mean the ref scored a slip.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Now absolutely knocked down.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
He don't get the credit officially, he doesn't get the
credit for that, and a lot of people don't don't
really remember that. But but Floyd Glove touched the floor.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I think that is a fact.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
As far as like the gift, I think Zad was
the only one that could really push him.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
He had he had start.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
It was the party and he was hanging out mentally,
got to be just as tough as Floyd to inside
the ring. That that that that durability and that in
that discipline.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It came to show because he had on that fight
him or he had him.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
He had him, and you go back and really look
at that fight.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
He was gonna get him. The only one is just
as quick as me he is just as strong and
he hard.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
To hit too.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Boys just so dedicated, right, So.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
That's the difference. And he beat people I think outside
of the ring because of that, you know, one hundred.
You know, because he he looked like he was always
in the lifestyle, but he wasn't really party.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
He kind of appeared put him to sleep.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, he wasn't doing that.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Yeah, he was wake up at three am, run eight miles.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
That's a fact, five hours, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Kobe Bryant was the same way too. Just dedication, dedication, dedication.
See what he turns out.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, I want to also ask you how personal are
you guys going to get on this podcast? Because sometimes
when you're sitting there and you said it's like therapy,
but is it like therapy for both of you as
well to be able to.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Talk about things in your own personal lives.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's always therapy for me to talk about what I've
been through. I've been through so much ship a lot
of a lot of things I've been through people don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And Moen, we learned some of this. How is it
for you being able to open up? I know, like
you did say, it's therapeutic, but sometimes it has to
be annoying to be.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Asked the same thing over and over.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
The same thing over and over again.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I mean, I mean, I don't know probably some of
the Chloe questions, but you know, other than that, I'm
an open book.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I don't think enough it said about you bouncing back, though,
bounce back they understand because all men we fall in
fact and were susceptible to a lot of things, you
know what I mean, caught up in a lot of
our own vices and our own demons. Right, But you're
bounce back, You'll come back. I don't think a lot
is spoken about when it comes to that.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Good looking bro. I respect that, I love, appreciate that,
you know, so mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And for you, I mean, Zach, this has to be
an opportunity. How old are you? Twenty two years old?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, but you had the opportunity to work with some greats.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Yeah. Absolutely, It's an honor.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And I got to thank Jada for giving my first
opportunity in the podcasting space.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
How did that even happen?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
One of some of my friends pulled up to his
block and he told him about my sports picks and
all that, and he called me in FaceTime.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Jack like, oh my god, it's Jada Kiss.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
He was like he's like, he's like, let's do a
show talk about the Beton.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
I was like, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We filmed the pilot, We pictured the world Starry, they
picked it up, We got a sponsor, and then we
got to shoot him, and you know, we've developed friendship.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Off came.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
We were just hanging out in LA for like three
or four days, watching movies all that.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
So that's one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You see the Drip, you know, all that are sleeping
and Lamia.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You talk about all the money that you've gone through,
you know, in your lifetime up to this point. So
how are you moving differently now? And what are some
lessons that you've learned.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I pay my own bills.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh okay, that's a big one.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, I pay my own bills. Before it was you know,
accountants and me not really just watching my money, you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Know, checking my account and other people.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Yeah, I can't trust some people trust other people.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
With your money. Let me tell you my accountant.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
They can't see my account, but they can't move things around,
you know, so they can see like when I need
statements for certain things or if I have to do
certain stuff. They can see it, but they don't have
access to be able to like send out a wire
or spend any of it.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
That's how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, because accounts also charge you like a percent you
have to pay, like there's.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, And then you talk about like no money
ain't everything is the only thing. So then you're really
trusting somebody with everything. Yeah, in the natural response like
you got all the money and I'll work for you. Yeah,
so they know if they know it could be one
hundred dollars a month. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
But that ship add up.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Yeah, you know the percentages and yeah, now is it?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
How do you feel about, you know, doing maybe another
television show.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Is that something you will be interested in.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like a reality show? Like if I get enough things
popping and it's be easy to tell a story or
follow the story then and they come with a nice
check situation. Yeah, and my kids.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh yeah you did college. Hell that's what I remember.
None of it was a nice one I did. And
I did Jay and dreamed of.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Queen frieda.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
All more people's neat me, see I.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Will say about you. Sometimes people are.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Like, you know, all different kinds of people do, and
I feel like being a New Yorker also it makes
you very like accepting and tolerant, where sometimes people can
have prejudices against people who are different than they are,
but that's not something that you possess. Like it feels
like because you've been through so much and you know,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Give everybody a fair chance. But I'm a scopio too, want.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You cross me worse? I just want to say, out.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Of all, it does seem as though you meshed well
with people just in general, and that's the good quality
to have because a lot of people aren't able.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, you should see what I go through with Mano
up here all the time.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You got to stop.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But you know, so for you guys, for this podcast,
how many so? How many episodes are already done?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And in the camp?
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay? Eight episodes? Is that the full season is eight episodes?
Are you going to be three?
Speaker 7 (22:29):
You're just going to keep going?
Speaker 9 (22:31):
We got more, We got more all through the summer.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh yeah, we're allowed to know Josh weekly.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I think bi weekly is the plan. I'm not directly
involved despite no, I mean with the you know, I'm
a talent.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I'm a talent.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I'm not you.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, I'm the host, but I'm not you know, we
just show up.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I just show up.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You just show up.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
We just talked about being directly involved with our business
and that just show up is aff story.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
That's my money. I mean, it's all my money.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
But yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, did you do eleven hip Hop.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Two at all?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was on there in one second with.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Carley episode of Remember Yeah I love Hip Hop Land.
We talked about carl read Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, they were dating. It was like one or two episodes.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
He was rocking out.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
You know.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
That was that full life legend, full life.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And now, how is the relationship with the kids. Your
kids are? How old?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Now?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Twenty five?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My daughter's twenty five and my son is twenty two.
I mean it's getting better every day. I think my
son is, my son is my best friend. I love
my daughter is like you know, sometimes she showed me love.
Sometimes she don't hugg me.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
My daughter is just like that she eleven eleven Give
me a hugle, baby, No, you're a hundred.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
It's kind of great. I love them. Yeah, I love
that they with me.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Okay, good I'm glad to see that too, you know.
But listen, you guys, So that the podcast is Keeping
Up with Sports is coming out second week of June.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yes, yeah, okay, I don't know. You ain't found too
sure about that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
In two weeks we just said it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Okay, So that thing, it's the first week of June, right,
two weeks you're telling me?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Yeah, rights, yeah, two weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So first week of June, okay, first we June. We
can look for the first episode. And on the premiere episode.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
It's I think it's Sugar Dug Sugar Ray Leonard is good.
That's a good I'm a fan of boxing, right man,
that's a goodness. That's gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
It's gonna be real good.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And that one about that one got deep.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
That's Sugar Ray one places.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You know, really, when when he was young, we talked, he.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Was I think touched by one of his trainers.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
We never think, we'd oh wow, you never think nobody,
you know what I mean, that's not nice with their hands.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's something you never even thought about.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, and it's something that's hard for people to come
out and say.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Yeah and admit, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You know those conversations I heard so you you guys
must have made feel real comfortable to be able to
really talk about that again a therapy session for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
It's not a show for clicks or you know, trying
to make someone comfortable, you know, m.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Hmm, just a chance for people get the story out.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah, we talked about Hearns Wilson, Duran Duran of course.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Yeah, wow, legend.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This is amazing anticipated yes, yeah, And I want to
ask you, Lamar, like everything that you were going through,
you know, for the past time, did you do you
feel like people were in your corner that were supportive
of you when you were playing in the NBA or
did you ever feel like you were deserted by people?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Like what? What were your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
No, I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
People that never really expect was pulling for me to
come out of that because Praier is the only thing
that you know, got me that one.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Prays God, you know, you gotta feel like you here
for a purpose to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All right, Well, thank you guys for showing up. I
cannot wait to see this first episode after this conversation.
Thank you d the first one right, yeah, okay, we'll
be talking about it.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Told me to tell you what's up.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
You just hit me if you heard you know, I
grew up with all of them.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
New York is in the house, all right. Well, thank
you guys so much. It's way up
What's up His way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela
Yee and I'm joined by my host Mano and my
guest co host dij Maguire. Hello, all right, and today
we're talking about keeping up with sports podcasts. We have
Zach Hirsch here and lamar Odo. What's some guys listen
this podcast? I feel like it's been talked about for
some time now, and then the date, I guess has
(00:22):
been delayed and pushed back, but now it's finally coming
out in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's been the hold up?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh no, We've just been working hard every day.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, it's on you definitely not but uh, we were
we were waiting to speak to you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Oh okay, this is where you're really gonna let it,
let it out absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So you guys recorded already a few episodes, right, this's
in the can. And so we've been hearing some rumblings
about who's going to be featured. So we do know
some of the people that will be on. Who's who's
going to be on the podcast?
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Oh Sugar ray m.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We had Ambrose to go with the ball Head.
Speaker 7 (01:05):
We have some couple of was not just no, we
had Jada kiss on.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, of course that's your guy.
Speaker 8 (01:14):
Yeah, of course it's my brother Steve O.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And so you guys as far as coming together, because
Kaitlyn Jenner is also one of the hosts on the
podcast to Who. By the way, I noticed she hasn't
been doing the press around it the way y'all have
been doing.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, tomorrow she gets here, we're doing a show together.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, do you so, Lamar, we know you know Caitlyn,
But Zach, did you know Caitlyn prior to.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I didn't know. I didn't know Lamar or Caitlyn. I
had similar friends to Lamar. Obviously he knows kiss two
and some other people. But no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And what were your what was your impression from sitting
down and because that's something to be thrown into the
mix of people that you never met before.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, absolutely, It's an honor to be with two legends,
you know, two olympians. Caitlyn drafted the n B a
gold medalist athlete, like I have so much respect for,
you know, both of them as athletes as a sports
guy growing up.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
My whole life, your.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Whole life, which is a young life, a young life.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Three years.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So the whole point of the podcast is to humanize
people right and talk about the more human side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, it's definitely not the bad or put down or
anything like that. We've been getting a good response. I
think most of our interview has been like therapeutic for
the people that we're interviewing.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
See, that's that's different though, because now we're in an
age of everything and everybody want to go viral.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Yeah. I think the only like only clickbait mm hmm
that I show is probably just the name.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Okay, I would think, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
to make people right, you know, look real quick and
they know what that means.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Everybody trying to go for these sound bites and these
stories that nobody even asked them before.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm not about that life. I've been through too much
much myself.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What You're resistant to that title, like you said, because
it is kind of clickbait?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, at first I was like, well, you know why
they choose that, But then you know, think about it
on me and brutes, I mean, me and Kaitlyn on it.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You know, why not it's just a name?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I mean yeah, both was kind of like y'all really
was on the show.
Speaker 9 (03:10):
Yeah, it was not like.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
In the family.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, and then you know, once you family, you always family, right, you.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Know what I'm yeah, So it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Now I want to ask you guys to you know, Lamar,
we know you have a lot of other ventors outside
of this too, and I see you've been getting into
a lot of different entrepreneurial spaces, right, and I so
you did open up a facility also for people who
have struggled with addiction.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm trying to right now, trying to open up my
own drug we have. That's that's need to my heart.
You know what I'm saying, Okay, to help people that
can't help themselves, right.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think that would be a phenomenal thing to do,
just because of the journey that you've been on to
be able to say, Okay, I want to help somebody else.
And who better than somebody that knows what that struggle
has been like.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, I definitely know what that struggle has been like.
You know, I don't get high no more. I'm proud
to say that last time I got twenty fifteen since
that accident, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Mean, it's nine years. That's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, I don't even count the time, but now just
leave it to guard.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Right. And then you started a cannabis company as well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, it's called Oldham Grown. That's like the healthy alternative.
I mean to know, it was for me, so is it?
Speaker 9 (04:22):
It's CBD nice?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But isn't it crazy that marijuana is legal now?
Speaker 10 (04:29):
Treasure, I'm like, I'm in New York crazy.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
But you know we hustle everything and give our New
York facility.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, it's say it's an app for senior kid. It's
like the Zilo sor for senior Kid.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, you gotta listen. You got a lot going on.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm trying to make it a lot of people to.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Help business ventures and Zach, we know that you've been
in this space of podcasting and sports, like you said,
your whole life. So talk to me about how you
guys actually did come together. Somebody put you all together.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Right Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, A friend of mine's name Steve m'connell put us
together and came up with this idea and I was
with it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And so I want to ask you that guys, since
this is keeping up of sports, you know, just some
sports questions. First of all, the w NBA. Let's talk
about that for a second. Yes, how exciting is the
w NBA for you guys right now?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I love the evolution like these girls is making moves
and making shots and handling the ball like the best
players in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Do you know what I'm saying? So hopefully they could
get paid a little bit more, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They get to fly private, which I thought was amazing
because imagine like the things that you have to go through,
the stress, like being in the airport is a safety thing.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine in the NBA they
used to you know, they used to fly commercial. I
couldn't even imagine that, like being Michael Jordan in nineteen
eighty six, nineteen.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Eighty seven commercial first class is sold out.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
They don't do that no more, don't teams.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
All the teams got private playing, but.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
They was flying first class. So it's probably like the
whole team, but.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It's you know, first class.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Is how many seats was split up though, like six
the bombs in the front and the nice niggas in
the front and the bump.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
In the back.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Shower in this jersey, they wouldn't have time to clean
it and they'd hop on the plane.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
Yeah wow, he said.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The playoffs have been really good though civil fire too,
so I know that's been exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Do you bet because I know you're known for that, So.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
I don't bet.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I give the picks out, you know, I think that
would affect my thought process if I was bettering them.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so you've never been like I should.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
When I started, I couldn't even bet legally, so it
just I never started.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You could be like a cash cow over here to
help the people.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
The NBA. I don't you know. Of course I could win,
but longest Boston don't win.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I hate watch that game.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Yesterday the Nicks.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I was, I was, I was working, I had to.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Do another show.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Was the chef Hell's Kitchen going around. I did that
with my kids yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Your kids are so grown now, by the way.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They got bit quick and I just came down here,
so I wasn't even Me and l J watched the game,
the last game in the car, the Denver game in
the Car.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The games have been like amazing, They're.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Good, They're gonna get better and better. Somebody win it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then I also want to talk about boxing with
you guys, because we're getting ready for Mike Tyson and
Jake Paul and I know you're cool with yeah, yeah, whatever,
what's your prediction for that, Jake Paul knockout?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Jake Paul knockout? That it's it's the only clauses in there.
Mike can't knock him out?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Is that prof It's a profile sanctioned by the Texas
Athletic Commission, no holds barred. They're using a little bit
bigger loves fourteen ounces, but no head, you're nothing like that.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
It's bro.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
It's going on Mike's record forever, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Two minute rounds?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, two minutes rounds. But I mean that's I mean
that was more for Mike obviously, so.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But what so what about the clauses about might not
being able to know?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Is that true?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
It's illegal for a pro fight.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Okay, cool, So there's a lot of prison time and stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
If Mike lose. We tanned that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Ready, let's keep ready, Okay, even though.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
What do you think is going to happen, I'm not
asking what you want to happen.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I know Mike gonna have problems with him. This dude
is in his prime, his athletic career, even he don't
gotta be a good boxer. You know, Mike probably gonna
get tired quick.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
He'll be fifty boxing fight.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
When is the fight happening again?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
July twentieth.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I know he's in the best shape of his life
and all that, but you gotta be like we we
and I don't talk my mic I'm saying, we have
to be realistic, like he's not.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He's what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It's gonna be a good fight.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
If Tyson, if he slips up and Tyson can connect
with some of those shots.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, but I know when you you get older, you're
you're gonna lose your strength. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Power.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You might his power, so there, his power is definitely there.
You may you may lose speed, right, but his boxing
i Q is still the same.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Right, So he's able to study like you know what
I mean what I'm saying, you might think you're going
like this, You're going like this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I mean, I want no disrespect to Jake Paul because
this dude has trained itself to be like a professional
or for you from YouTube, So I respect that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Hush, you gotta respect that yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Him being big bro like almost crying with Mike.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I was crying a little bit, like I shed a
cheer when we lost to Lennox Lewis. That was hard
for me to take.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, I can imagine. But that's Jake plusure guys. So
that's why I.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Love Uncle Mike too.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
But I just I don't think he wow. I don't
think his style is.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Going to age.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Well, you know, pikaboots, real tiring, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What round you think if you said a knockout, I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Agree with that.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I don't agree with that, but I respect that over here.
The style, like because Mike got the head movement and
all that, well.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Very energy taxic it is, it is.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's it wins fights though, because at the end of
the day, you stay moving a lot of times when
you mobile, when you're stand right there in front of somebody.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Somebody when he was twenty to thirty five.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
Damn thirty years from thirty years is Jake Paul six
twenty seven the prime, don't get no quicker and all that.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But it is Jake. Jake Paul is not known for
his speed. He has power, though he's not known for.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
His speed, He's built his power up.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
He has power.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
He put on like forty pounds. Who he knocked the
funk out though? Who is that? He not the that
box that one? No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay, that's his man, Okay, Nate Robinson dirty.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah he did that UFC thirty two Woodley.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah, but he lost his first professional fight, his first
against the pessional box. I guess against a professional boxer. Okay,
that's correct.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Tommy Ferry for his little brother.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Well, fair enough, hopefully, Tommy.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And then he says, we're talking about when it comes
to Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney, what are your thoughts
about everything that happened with all of the hoopla after
the fight on.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I mean, you know, the kid Garcia, if he was
taking steroids or whatever, they're wrong, Yeah, I don't. I
think somebody life in there, right.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
So it was caught by VADA, which is a privately
organization who was also very close to Devin Haney's training
conditioning coach, uh Victor Kante, who also got caught in
Balco at Barry Bond in serve prison time. So it
just seems really sketchy that he would take a psarm
two days before his boxing match.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
That wouldn't even help. They said that.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
They said that whatever they found it, it was so
minuscule they wouldn't even help them. It's like a pinch
of the right when it wouldn't it helped when it
it was like one billion of right. It was too
less of of of a substance.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
The matter.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Did he take it purposely and.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
He took a supplement like I think.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It's a little teeny bit, but you need the b
sample will show how much you know it was really
in the system.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right now, I want to ask you, Lamar, just
coming from the side of an athlete and you talk
about the more human side. A lot of times when
you're on the court as a NBA player, people will
criticize you and go crazy and just say like the
most disrespectful things, and they feel like you're supposed to
take it because you know you're getting paid all this.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
Money well from a fan, like on.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
The court and even online and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean, well online is a different thing, but if
you want to court, then that's they right on off
the court.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
I mean literally like got haptic skin.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't know you take a skin on court though, right,
I mean anytime you really don't want to let your
emotions overrun anything you do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Has anything ever bothered you, like to the point where
you wanted to run up on somebody, I'm pretty.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Sure it has.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You know, I was on the team that took a
lot of losses my first year. Repeat to them, I
can't really remember anything off the top of my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And what about like mental health services for the like
you see Ben Simmons, Uh, you know who had been
talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Struggling with mental health issues.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But do they provide like real services in the NBA
for people, because that is also something like every now
and then you gotta lose.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But that's not easy either.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not being out of the
NBA like ten fifteen years. I'm pretty sure right now
they're addressing those type of.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Things within the league.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You feel like that would have helped you at the
time that you were there.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm pretty sure any you know, anybody that had some
positive influence to help me. You know, I lost a
lot of money. I was smoking weed when I was
supposed to you know what I'm saying, suspended type of
doing dumb shit like that.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
So you feel like you have stronger role models or
people that you respected.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean it really like when I was on
the Clippers. You know, my first year, you know, I
was the highest paid you know what I'm saying, So
and all the other dudes on my team. You know,
my team was known for not renewing the players contract,
(15:02):
so they know they wasn't gonna come back to that team.
So everybody was like really acting up knowing that they
was gonna leave there. You know what I mean, I
ain't really have nobody come on, let's get in the gym.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
You know what I'm saying. It was.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I was in the club as a proud Clipper, you know,
it wasn't even really going to the club like that,
So I had opened them all the way up.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wow, that club will get to you every time when
you see people writing and then you're like, you know,
they got a game tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean, but that's part of the lifestyle, you
know what I mean. You just got to maintain.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Amber Rose about since the girl.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Just about all life, you know, what kid.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Things like that, like what sports your kids play.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It was a good.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Conversation, yeah, just because I know there's a lot of
athletes on the show. But then I'm like, okay, it
was Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
We had a on there too. Yeah, over to anybody
that's older him in the box, don't call.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, that went through a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But yeah, we talked about, you know, his traumatic brain injury,
you know, after a fight.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
I mean then you know, but his brain open, he
was awake, he was.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
About to die. Yeah, wow, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Ye did y'all talk about the fact that he actually,
I mean the ref scored a slip.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Now absolutely knocked down.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
He don't get the credit officially, he doesn't get the
credit for that, and a lot of people don't don't
really remember that. But but Floyd Glove touched the floor.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I think that is a fact.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
As far as like the gift, I think Zad was
the only one that could really push him.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
He had he had start.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
It was the party and he was hanging out mentally,
got to be just as tough as Floyd to inside
the ring. That that that that durability and that in
that discipline.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It came to show because he had on that fight
him or he had him.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
He had him, and you go back and really look
at that fight.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
He was gonna get him. The only one is just
as quick as me he is just as strong and
he hard.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
To hit too.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Boys just so dedicated, right, So.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
That's the difference. And he beat people I think outside
of the ring because of that, you know, one hundred.
You know, because he he looked like he was always
in the lifestyle, but he wasn't really party.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
He kind of appeared put him to sleep.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, he wasn't doing that.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Yeah, he was wake up at three am, run eight miles.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
That's a fact, five hours, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Kobe Bryant was the same way too. Just dedication, dedication, dedication.
See what he turns out.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, I want to also ask you how personal are
you guys going to get on this podcast? Because sometimes
when you're sitting there and you said it's like therapy,
but is it like therapy for both of you as
well to be able to.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Talk about things in your own personal lives.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's always therapy for me to talk about what I've
been through. I've been through so much ship a lot
of a lot of things I've been through people don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And Moen, we learned some of this. How is it
for you being able to open up? I know, like
you did say, it's therapeutic, but sometimes it has to
be annoying to be.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Asked the same thing over and over.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
The same thing over and over again.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I mean, I mean, I don't know probably some of
the Chloe questions, but you know, other than that, I'm
an open book.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I don't think enough it said about you bouncing back, though,
bounce back they understand because all men we fall in
fact and were susceptible to a lot of things, you
know what I mean, caught up in a lot of
our own vices and our own demons. Right, But you're
bounce back, You'll come back. I don't think a lot
is spoken about when it comes to that.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Good looking bro. I respect that, I love, appreciate that,
you know, so mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And for you, I mean, Zach, this has to be
an opportunity. How old are you? Twenty two years old?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, but you had the opportunity to work with some greats.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Yeah. Absolutely, It's an honor.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And I got to thank Jada for giving my first
opportunity in the podcasting space.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
How did that even happen?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
One of some of my friends pulled up to his
block and he told him about my sports picks and
all that, and he called me in FaceTime.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Jack like, oh my god, it's Jada Kiss.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
He was like he's like, he's like, let's do a
show talk about the Beton.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
I was like, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We filmed the pilot, We pictured the world Starry, they
picked it up, We got a sponsor, and then we
got to shoot him, and you know, we've developed friendship.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Off came.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
We were just hanging out in LA for like three
or four days, watching movies all that.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
So that's one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You see the Drip, you know, all that are sleeping
and Lamia.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You talk about all the money that you've gone through,
you know, in your lifetime up to this point. So
how are you moving differently now? And what are some
lessons that you've learned.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I pay my own bills.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Oh okay, that's a big one.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, I pay my own bills. Before it was you know,
accountants and me not really just watching my money, you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Know, checking my account and other people.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Yeah, I can't trust some people trust other people.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
With your money. Let me tell you my accountant.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
They can't see my account, but they can't move things around,
you know, so they can see like when I need
statements for certain things or if I have to do
certain stuff. They can see it, but they don't have
access to be able to like send out a wire
or spend any of it.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
That's how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, because accounts also charge you like a percent you
have to pay, like there's.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I mean, And then you talk about like no money
ain't everything is the only thing. So then you're really
trusting somebody with everything. Yeah, in the natural response like
you got all the money and I'll work for you. Yeah,
so they know if they know it could be one
hundred dollars a month. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
But that ship add up.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Yeah, you know the percentages and yeah, now is it?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
How do you feel about, you know, doing maybe another
television show.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Is that something you will be interested in.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like a reality show? Like if I get enough things
popping and it's be easy to tell a story or
follow the story then and they come with a nice
check situation. Yeah, and my kids.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh yeah you did college. Hell that's what I remember.
None of it was a nice one I did. And
I did Jay and dreamed of.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Queen frieda.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
All more people's neat me, see I.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Will say about you. Sometimes people are.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Like, you know, all different kinds of people do, and
I feel like being a New Yorker also it makes
you very like accepting and tolerant, where sometimes people can
have prejudices against people who are different than they are,
but that's not something that you possess. Like it feels
like because you've been through so much and you know,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Give everybody a fair chance. But I'm a scopio too, want.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You cross me worse? I just want to say, out.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Of all, it does seem as though you meshed well
with people just in general, and that's the good quality
to have because a lot of people aren't able.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, you should see what I go through with Mano
up here all the time.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You got to stop.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But you know, so for you guys, for this podcast,
how many so? How many episodes are already done?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And in the camp?
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay? Eight episodes? Is that the full season is eight episodes?
Are you going to be three?
Speaker 7 (22:29):
You're just going to keep going?
Speaker 9 (22:31):
We got more, We got more all through the summer.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Shut up?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh yeah, we're allowed to know Josh weekly.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I think bi weekly is the plan. I'm not directly
involved despite no, I mean with the you know, I'm
a talent.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I'm a talent.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
I'm not you.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, I'm the host, but I'm not you know, we
just show up.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I just show up.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You just show up.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
We just talked about being directly involved with our business
and that just show up is aff story.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
That's my money. I mean, it's all my money.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
But yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, did you do eleven hip Hop.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Two at all?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was on there in one second with.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Carley episode of Remember Yeah I love Hip Hop Land.
We talked about carl read Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, they were dating. It was like one or two episodes.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
He was rocking out.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
You know.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
That was that full life legend, full life.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And now, how is the relationship with the kids. Your
kids are? How old?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Now?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Twenty five?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My daughter's twenty five and my son is twenty two.
I mean it's getting better every day. I think my
son is, my son is my best friend. I love
my daughter is like you know, sometimes she showed me love.
Sometimes she don't hugg me.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
My daughter is just like that she eleven eleven Give
me a hugle, baby, No, you're a hundred.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
It's kind of great. I love them. Yeah, I love
that they with me.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Okay, good I'm glad to see that too, you know.
But listen, you guys, So that the podcast is Keeping
Up with Sports is coming out second week of June.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yes, yeah, okay, I don't know. You ain't found too
sure about that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
In two weeks we just said it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Okay, So that thing, it's the first week of June, right,
two weeks you're telling me?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Yeah, rights, yeah, two weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So first week of June, okay, first we June. We
can look for the first episode. And on the premiere episode.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
It's I think it's Sugar Dug Sugar Ray Leonard is good.
That's a good I'm a fan of boxing, right man,
that's a goodness. That's gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
It's gonna be real good.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And that one about that one got deep.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
That's Sugar Ray one places.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You know, really, when when he was young, we talked, he.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Was I think touched by one of his trainers.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
We never think, we'd oh wow, you never think nobody,
you know what I mean, that's not nice with their hands.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's something you never even thought about.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, and it's something that's hard for people to come
out and say.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Yeah and admit, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You know those conversations I heard so you you guys
must have made feel real comfortable to be able to
really talk about that again a therapy session for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
It's not a show for clicks or you know, trying
to make someone comfortable, you know, m.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Hmm, just a chance for people get the story out.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah, we talked about Hearns Wilson, Duran Duran of course.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Yeah, wow, legend.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This is amazing anticipated yes, yeah, And I want to
ask you, Lamar, like everything that you were going through,
you know, for the past time, did you do you
feel like people were in your corner that were supportive
of you when you were playing in the NBA or
did you ever feel like you were deserted by people?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Like what? What were your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
No, I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
People that never really expect was pulling for me to
come out of that because Praier is the only thing
that you know, got me that one.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Prays God, you know, you gotta feel like you here
for a purpose to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All right, Well, thank you guys for showing up. I
cannot wait to see this first episode after this conversation.
Thank you d the first one right, yeah, okay, we'll
be talking about it.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Told me to tell you what's up.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
You just hit me if you heard you know, I
grew up with all of them.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
New York is in the house, all right. Well, thank
you guys so much. It's way up
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