Scar Lip On ‘Melanin’ Backlash, Family Fallout, Lil Wayne Collab, Bathing Suit Haters, + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
He's waiting for Angela yee and back again. We got
Scarlet in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's up, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's such a different time than when you sat here
for the first time early on, when Way Yep first started.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, I was real younger, I was new and look
at you now, grown woman, you see.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But congratulations scart before fame is out right now and
it's racking up those numbers. You got a Little Wayne feature,
you got a Marry Day Blige feature, you got an
Anthony Hamilton, a Honey Baby, a Skiller Baby. I mean,
you got it like that is just an all star lineup.
How does it feel knowing that all these people is
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is on it for you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I just feel so grateful. That's number one. I'm just
very grateful that all of these amazing and talented artists
just was able to just bless my tracks like that.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I just it felt like you could have put out
a project, like, you know, a project earlier, because you've
been dropping singles, You've been consistent. So talk to me
about timing of this and why was the perfect time
for you to put this out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I didn't want to rush, you know, I didn't want
to just feel like I'm just throwing anything out and
just seeing if it sticks. No, I've been working on
this project for like seven years before, my dear, I've
been working on it. Some of the tracks you hear,
like Lord Please that was maybe like in twenty eighteen,
Oh wow, but Anthony Hamilton wasn't on it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I love Anthony Hamilton's voice will make you cry. Yeah,
you know, and you do gotta thank God, and that
was a perfect way for you just even on this album,
you know, just thanking God for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You gotta thank God. Man, He's been an amazing and
a major part of my life and my come up.
So I just had to, you know, sprinkle him on it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, NA say, you're talking about getting some media training.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I got to hear about this.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Cause, so break it down for me for people who
are listening, right, You know, artists don't do media training
like that used to. I will say that there's sometimes
that I'm like, man, this prayer. I didn't feel like
that about you necessarily, but I'm interested to see why
that happened and how you feel like it helped you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Media training for like upcoming artist like myself and others
is very important. But I like people may not notice,
but I have anxiety when I do like interviews and
shit like excuse my language, but like people don't like
don't notice that, but I do have anxiety because I
like sometimes I always feel like when I'm at an interview,
I have to answer the question the best or the
(02:28):
perfect way, like I can't make no mistakes, Like it's
like a test, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, no,
so I just didn't want to think like that. And
you know, my media trainers shout out to her. She's
helped me like answer questions and you know, like, you know,
keep it, keep it on point, and I make no
mistakes because you know, I be having a lot of hiccups.
I'll be having a lot of hiccups on the media.
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I don't know, y'all be seeing me on social media's
going through all my boyfriend lists. They're like, no, no, no,
we gotta keep it to music. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I do want to say, though, Scarlet, part of why
people like you though, it's as they feel like relatable
because there's no such thing as no mistakes in life,
and a lot of us have made and done things
that were like, oh, why I you know, but that
is also part of like growth, because you are still young,
and I feel like even for your you know, for
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your generation, what are you generations?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What is she generation z?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, it's some new generation now, but I'm Z.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But generation Z.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I feel like growing up and having so much access
and for people being able to see your life, it's
gonna show mistakes a lot more. As you call them
a mistake. I don't call things a mistakes. Yeah, you hiccupped.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't have a few hiccups.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So for you, because like you said, you get anxiety
when you do interviews, and I know that, like you know,
this is called scar before fame, right, and so now
it's a different level of people paying attention to every
single move that you make and everything, like something that
you might think is like no big deal ends up
going viral, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Like freaking I did a freaking video to my new
track melanin and bananas in the background, and people thought
I was calling black people monkeys.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh I didn't even see people.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
All the beautiful melanated people.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I can't do nothing wrong. I can't do nothing right
in the media, can.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I I said there was I think it was Joe Button.
They were like, she keeps putting stuff in the background
in her videos.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Like, you know what, me and Joe Budden's gonna have
to have a talk. I'm gonna have to sit down
with Joe Butteris because you know, like I do understand
what he was saying, and I didn't take it like offensive,
like he was just giving me constructive criticism. But to
be honest, y'all knew me from Glizzies holding up hot
dogs and rapping about rapping, rapping using a hot dog
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as a microphone. So it's like, come on, now, I'm
just in my creative I'm just being creative. I'm in
my element. I'm not thinking too much on look like
I feel like a lot of artists they want to
look like they're look perfect and look like they made
it and look like I'm just who I am, you
know what I'm saying, And that's just how I create,
and I get how it could look on the outside,
but I'm just being my.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now, what's that balance for you? As far as because
I remember there was also a time when you you know,
being sexy scarlet too, and sometimes people feel like, why
are they making her do that? Like someone's making you
be sexy, but that's also you doing that for yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, no one's making me do nothing. Like you know
what I'm saying, Like, I want to look sexy. I
want to look sexy. I want to look like a tomboy.
I want to look at tomboy. I'm a woman. I
have the freedom to do whatever I want. So when
y'all see me in the baying suit, maybe it's because
I'm at the fucking pool or I'm at the beach,
Like what do y'all want me to just wear times
and big north faced jackets also.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Much they do know it's crazy, but I guess also
when we were introduced to you, it was like, you know,
people feel very protective over you too, just because we
know you from your poetry and we know a lot
of your story, which sometimes the artists we don't know that,
And so I do feel there's a different connection when
it comes to you, and so sometimes people.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Are like, oh, that's ourr.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But we got to let you like blossom and grow
up and become the confident woman to become.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I do appreciate that part, like of like
my fan base and stuff like that. But you know,
I'm growing into a woman and I'm not the sixteen
year old scar no more. So like they got it,
they're learning to accept that. But I'm not out here
just on a corner just now. You're not pouocie popping, like,
come on.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think it's a diverse right, Like sometimes you are
the girl in the tims and sometimes you are the
girl in a bikini.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah. I like to call it like a I like
to call like a DMX slash a Leah style.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, every woman.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, all right, Now let's talk about this song Runaway Love.
When I tell you that was the writing on that,
the storytelling on that was phenomenal. So when did you
write that? And then getting Mary J. Blige on there
was just the icing on the cake. And obviously this
is also a playoff of the Ludacris track as well,
so talk to me about that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I want to just say, first shout out to
Mary J. Blige Chris just for allowing me to jump
on a classic like this. That Runaway Love record really
spoke to me when I was a little girl going
through what I was going through, and I felt like
Mary was talking to me. So I wanted to make
somebody else feel like that as well, Like when they
hear this new this new remake of Runaway Love, they
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feel like, you know, they're not alone and like I'm
talking to them and like that. Just it just inspired
me and it was so powerful. It was a freestyle
and I was on my way to shoot the video
because I was doing a lot of freestyles, and I
sent it to Swiss. It was on my way. I said, Yo, Swiss,
I'm about to shoot this right now. I'm on my way.
He said, stop the call, turn around and re record it.
(07:35):
It's going on the album, on the mixtape. I was
like what, but I already paid the camera man, and
he was like, turn the car around. You're putting this
on the mixtape. This is too hard and the Yeah,
So thank you again to Mary J. Blige. She came
to the music video shoot and she's just like she's
like a big sister like Auntie, like you know.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
She just she don't like that. Don't do that. Oh sorry,
you know how you know how some of us be like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He's just a homegirl. I'm really like to my bad, Mary,
my bad.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But that was you know, honestly, like people reacted to
that so strongly, and I just see like that it's
like a mini movie because it's not too many artists
nowadays that are telling stories so vividly the way that
you did. And so is this something that's like a
real or is this something that Skylet like just came
up with like a fictional story, or is this based
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off of anything?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So the Runaway Love track is a make sure of
my story and just stories put together. So like Lisa,
that was just a story of like just other people's
lives that I'll either see no movies or maybe had
a friend that was going through someth like domestic violence.
I see that a lot, suicide awareness, all of those things.
So I just really wanted to do like what Ludacris
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did in the Runaway Love where he was just highlighting
different stories of people's lives as like you know, traumatic events.
So I just wanted to do that. But the Jasmine story,
it was my story. It was a mixture of my
story as well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You know, I think, like I said, the people relate
to you so well. Another thing about you that had
people up in arms was the scar. They were like
you had said that you were gonna get rid of
the scar on your lip, and people were like, no,
don't do it, and you said you were it if.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's like listen, I love the scar on my lip.
I love the scar on my lip. But sometimes I
have like, you know, battles with myself, like I'm gonna
just get rid of it and just be just start fresh,
starting new. I don't need the scar no more. But
then I just remember, like when I have the scar
like on my lip, it just reminds me how strong
I am when I came through. And it's not like
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me looking at the scar and seeing the bad side
no more. I'm seeing the victory now. Every time I'm
look in the mirror and looking at my scar, and
I'm like, I can't get rid of this. This is
like what made me like who I am today. So
I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
See, but I do want to say, at the end
of the day, you do whatever you went for yourself.
I remember when Cardi b first came out and she
was like, I'm not fixing my teeth, like, oh my gosh,
and then she fixed his teeth. Shout out to Cardi
for that. But yeah, so you might change your mind.
Again and decide to do it. But at the end
of the day, whatever Scarlet wants to do is you.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Know what I want to do, and I got the
freedom to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And I fixed his chip tooth.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We thought he was never nods when he had his own.
He used to talk about his chip tooth and then
he went and fix his chip. You never know what
else that you decide to do now as far as
so you did this media training, so no more talking
about relationships and boyfriends.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And lessons in music and lessons in music. And I
got a track right now that highlights my relationship. It's
called east Side feature.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
On Honey Honey Baby, shout out to her. Yes, I
like her, Yeah, no, she's so she hits so small
with such a big boys too, and so is like this, yeah, okay,
so just in the music. So then what happens now
when we hear east Side and then we're like, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This, I confirmed it, like and like yes, like he said,
met me on the east Side, I'm with him on
the east Side right now.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is it hard for you to feel like you can
really like trust somebody as far as being in a
relationship because you are Scarlet now so it's like if
somebody's trying to holler at you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
See now, Angela. When I date men, I have to
watch out. Is he dating me for clout? Is he
dating me for money? Is he dating me to just
get famous? Or do he really care about me? You
know what I'm saying. Like, and I already have like
a hard time trusting men because of my past, So
I really gotta like evaluate you, like is you really
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here for me? Like do you really care about me?
Do you really see me outside of the cloud and
the fame and music? You know what I'm saying, So
that that just be like, you know, I'm having hiccups.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Only hiccups. The only time will tell though, because how
do you really know? Like somebody could seem super genuine.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I feel like you gotta date, Like so some people like, listen,
shout out to my man, cause I love him, I
love you. But some people say, like, oh, you gotta date,
Like if you're a rapper, you got to date a rapper,
or if you like, you gotta date a person like
that's a lawyer or like of your caliber. So you know,
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like y'all both got the same type. So you know
what I'm saying like, y'all got the same type of
money or fame and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So is he your caliber or yeah, you know, it's
interesting you say that because one of my friends told me,
I wish I had money so I could date whoever
I like, which is a whole different way to look
at it, right, because when you're of a sometimes women
are dating for like survival, right, and then sometimes you're
dating because you could really be in a position to say,
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I really like this person, it don't matter what they have,
And it's just two different ways. Because she really was
she really made me think about it, you know, because
but then there's times when you date somebody who ain't
got it and you're like im and then you're like,
I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah no, because like everybody say that, they'd be like, oh,
I hear girls all the time. They'll be like, oh,
if I'm a data man, he gotta have more money
than me. And some men don't like women having more
money than them because they want to be dominant.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sometimes you also don't know how much money somebody has
because any don't tell you anything. Yeah, listen, Scarlet, and
I want to say, you know the position that you're in.
People are thinking right now, look at Scarlet, she rich.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And hold up now yeah, look shut up girl, You're like,
hold on, don't believe Google.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, let's see what this networth looking like.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Don't look, don't believe networks.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But that's also dangerous too, because you never want people
to feel like because everyone will.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Be asking you for stuff. How is that for you?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Now too, I'm gonna tell ya something and I'm not
gonna say no names, right, but I got this family
member right now. So when I first got signed, every
week I would send this this person one thousand dollars,
five hundred dollars, two thousand dollars every time. Right. One
thing is I don't like people that use God as
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an excuse to get money or to be like, oh,
pay your times or pay this. And it's like when
you tell a person yes over and over and one
time you say no, they forget everything you've done for them.
And this person I see as like everything, my everything,
and I'm going through this right now. They ain't even
text me or say congratulations on your album, like nothing,
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the congratulations on the song with Lulu Wayne, congratulations on
this body of work. Nothing. They don't give a fuck
because I won't give them no money.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
See it. And I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I've been through that a lot, where you could do
everything for somebody and the one time you don't do it,
then all of a sudden it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah. And I told this person. I told another person,
I said, start a business and I'll fund your business.
Stop calling me every day for money, right, start a business,
I'll fund it. Or I pay for you to go
to school and nothing and call me.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's accountability on their part then, right. If somebody's like, oh,
give me some like okay, I'll do it, but I
need you to do X, Y and Z or you
need to like let me know how you can make
money yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, And that inspired the song Lord Please like that song.
It's like Lord, please like be patient with me, like
because I don't know like people acting crazy, Like Lord,
just just give me grace to just get through the season.
Like that's why that's that inspired little Please.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Do you have an accountant? Yeah, okay, because I was
gonna say, when could.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
She on my hills? She'd be like, you ain't gonna
be sending out this money every time.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You gotta how to blame the account. You gotta be like, look,
I'm on a budget. And because also I think it's
danger to let people know what you have. That's why
I'm like, sometimes people don't need to think that you're rich,
Like you know, you're investing, and you gotta be investing
in yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's one thing I learned.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
People always ask me what do I wish I would
have did differently, And I'm like, I wish I would
have started like saving, investing, buying, you know, not earlier.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I do wish that I would have I'm okay, but
I do wish like starting and getting signed, I didn't
just freeload send people money. And also the down on
that door dash, because that door dash that DoorDash for
your fifty thousand dollars, and you were like, hold up,
we had a fifty thousand dollars go it went to DoorDash.
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You right about that?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I know I used my NAT.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You brought up Little Wayne just now you open up
the album with that banger with tml Wayne on it
pop that talk to me about how this Little Wayne
feature happened?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Pop that okay? So the pop that record y'all here
right now sounds nothing like the first pop that version.
It was like some freaky pop that Swiss is like, Nah,
we don't want to go that road. Let's let's do this.
You know. When he says something, I'm just like, Okay,
let's do it. He said, we gotta go, we gotta
go this route. We gotta do it like this. It
was so like it wasn't easy to make pop that
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like Swiss had to like bring me in the studio
and sit me down and be like you, I'm not
leaving to you finish this record, and this mad pressure.
Like he's a good person, like you know what I'm saying,
He's amazing to work with, but it'd be pressure sometimes
like in the studio of Swiss because it's like, damn,
I gotta do my best. I gotta make the best verses.
I gotta you know what I'm saying. But I finished it.
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And then you know, like probably like I would say,
a week later. A week later, I'm driving right, just
driving because I like to drive. I get a call
from Swiss. Swiss like, yo, check out what I just
sent you. I'm like what he said, check out what
I just sent you. I check it. I play it right,
I'm like, Okay, this is the record, pop that and
get quiet, and then I heard a lighter flick and
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you know what that means when the lighter flip. And
then I heard Wayne Verse. I almost crashed the car.
We almost crashed. We went crazy. We was like, Yo,
this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's amazing to have. Swiss is like your fairy godfather.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He is, I'm telling you in real life. Like he
changed my life so much. I really just appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And he is for sure in your corner at all times.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
All right, now, I want to ask you so about
skal a baby on the album Yes, and how that
happened could have been me?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know that record finest.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That record was two years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I want to say they had this in the stats
for a minute, but it sounds quite current two years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah. But I'm a big supporter of him, Like I remember,
like when we both started blowing up, like at the
early stages of our career, career, we was we did
an interview, like we were in the same building and
he was doing an interview with a person that I
was about to do an interview with. And I've always
supported him, and like I just want to say, like
God bless him. I hope he's okay. Ye see, he
recovered and we just the whole team is just praying
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for him, like we're just happy he's good. But I'm
just very grateful that he did this track because it
was fire.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was fine.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now I got to ask you what was on the
pop that originally Thatwiz was like all right, hey, yah.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Know so this is don't judge me, but the pop
that chat here right now went like this, let me
pop the Zucci Daddy, Let me pop Tzucci. Let me
pop the Zucci Daddy. Let me And then I was
like twistly, hold up, just saying what we're doing. She's
hot ready in let's stay away from she's hot right now?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
How did he feel about that?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right? So the record she's hot, he told me
because I posted a video right yep, I remember, and
it wasn't appropriate, right, He was like.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He didn't even see it before until you posted it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, I'm leaving up and I lift it up and
I shouldn't have did that, you think? So yeah, my
fans really, like everybody like responded the opposite is what
I thought they was going to respond to. So I
was like, shit, I should have listened.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So you do feel like people have a certain expectation
of you, and you you hold yourself to that standard.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I do have to, especially if I want to like
make it and this like music, like I do gotta
like stay stay like in the lane of my brand
because your brand is important and I know that now,
and I'm like, okay, so this is my brand. This
is what I have to like stay in the realm
of like keep it like this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
What's been the hardest part for you of all of this?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
The hardest part of all of this would have to be, like, hmmm,
I got to keep some some things off social media. Okay,
I feel like I got to keep certain things on
social media. Everybody don't need to know if I'm kicking
out a nigga or just some bad shit like that.
Nobody needs to know that. So I just got to
keep that off. I gotta keep it strictly music. That's
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why my media train i'd be telling me, like, keep
it focused on your music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I get that in all, but I also feel like,
you know, we like at snippets a lot peeks into
into what's going on. In Scarlet's life, because that's also
how people relate to the music. If then if they
know a little something about you, yeah, you know so
well listen, Scarlett, congratulations on this. Does this mean there's
a full, full length project on the way, because I
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know this, this was a long time in the making.
How is your patience as far as waiting for this
to be able to come out? Because like you said,
you know, you've had could have been me for two years.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I wasn't ready to drop a tape yet. Oh so
I didn't want to drop the tape. My team, like
you know, they understood, they wanted me to drop, but
we all was in agreement, like we wanted to like
really be like we was missing Runaway Love. You know
what I'm saying, Okay, and when we may run Away Love,
That's what was like. All right, now it's starting to
feel complete, Like this album is starting to feel complete,
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Like it got my life, it got my poetry, it
got my love, it got the New York energy, the
drill scene, like it just has all of that. And
that's when we felt like now it's Tom and my fans,
you know, they was tuned into the freestyles and everything.
Every week. Let me tell you something with y'all don't know,
I had to work work to be able to drop this.
You'll understand what I'm saying. I was freestyling for probably
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I had to do like fifty freestyles until this tape
was able to be drop.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now that's a boot camp there right there for you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
One thing about you also that I think is amazing
is the spirit of giving back that you always have,
you know, giving back in your community. And one of
the biggest moments from Angela ye day when you came
and performed, was even just you backstage, you know, showing love,
like there was somebody there who was a huge fan
of yours. And it's just beautiful to see cause I
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know a lot of that is you knowing where you
came from and what you've had to go through, and
I can feel that like that makes you feel like,
you know, just that connection to want to give back
and be that person.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, And I do like these give backs like for holidays,
you know, things, giving hair days for the community and
the Bronx like all types of stuff, because I know
how it feels like to not have nothing, like you
know me, like not having nothing, not having like people
to celebrate with and stuff. So I just like celebrate
with the people because I'm just like dumb, you know
what I'm saying, Like I feel how y'all feel, you know,
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and if I have the power and the ability to
change it and make somebody day better, why.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Not do you ever sit back and say, I can't
believe this is my life?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I did say that the other day, Like I see
myself on the news. I think it was ABC News, Yeah,
ABC News, And I said, wow, Like I remember like
on TikTok sharing my story and now I'm in on
the news sharing my story. I said, this is crazy?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, it isn't life amazing?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, it's so many blessings to you, Scar before famous
out right now. People have amazing things to say about it.
It's got so much energy, a lot of range. I
love how all seven songs are so different from each other,
you know, So congratulations to you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Know.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I'm always in your corner, cheering for you and rooting
you on, so I cannot wait to see what's next.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well,
He's waiting for Angela yee and back again. We got
Scarlet in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's up, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's such a different time than when you sat here
for the first time early on, when Way Yep first started.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, I was real younger, I was new and look
at you now, grown woman, you see.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But congratulations scart before fame is out right now and
it's racking up those numbers. You got a Little Wayne feature,
you got a Marry Day Blige feature, you got an
Anthony Hamilton, a Honey Baby, a Skiller Baby. I mean,
you got it like that is just an all star lineup.
How does it feel knowing that all these people is
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is on it for you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I just feel so grateful. That's number one. I'm just
very grateful that all of these amazing and talented artists
just was able to just bless my tracks like that.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I just it felt like you could have put out
a project, like, you know, a project earlier, because you've
been dropping singles, You've been consistent. So talk to me
about timing of this and why was the perfect time
for you to put this out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I didn't want to rush, you know, I didn't want
to just feel like I'm just throwing anything out and
just seeing if it sticks. No, I've been working on
this project for like seven years before, my dear, I've
been working on it. Some of the tracks you hear,
like Lord Please that was maybe like in twenty eighteen,
Oh wow, but Anthony Hamilton wasn't on it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I love Anthony Hamilton's voice will make you cry. Yeah,
you know, and you do gotta thank God, and that
was a perfect way for you just even on this album,
you know, just thanking God for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You gotta thank God. Man, He's been an amazing and
a major part of my life and my come up.
So I just had to, you know, sprinkle him on it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, NA say, you're talking about getting some media training.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I got to hear about this.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Cause, so break it down for me for people who
are listening, right, You know, artists don't do media training
like that used to. I will say that there's sometimes
that I'm like, man, this prayer. I didn't feel like
that about you necessarily, but I'm interested to see why
that happened and how you feel like it helped you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Media training for like upcoming artist like myself and others
is very important. But I like people may not notice,
but I have anxiety when I do like interviews and
shit like excuse my language, but like people don't like
don't notice that, but I do have anxiety because I
like sometimes I always feel like when I'm at an interview,
I have to answer the question the best or the
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perfect way, like I can't make no mistakes, Like it's
like a test, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, no,
so I just didn't want to think like that. And
you know, my media trainers shout out to her. She's
helped me like answer questions and you know, like, you know,
keep it, keep it on point, and I make no
mistakes because you know, I be having a lot of hiccups.
I'll be having a lot of hiccups on the media.
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I don't know, y'all be seeing me on social media's
going through all my boyfriend lists. They're like, no, no, no,
we gotta keep it to music. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I do want to say, though, Scarlet, part of why
people like you though, it's as they feel like relatable
because there's no such thing as no mistakes in life,
and a lot of us have made and done things
that were like, oh, why I you know, but that
is also part of like growth, because you are still young,
and I feel like even for your you know, for
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your generation, what are you generations?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What is she generation z?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, it's some new generation now, but I'm Z.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But generation Z.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I feel like growing up and having so much access
and for people being able to see your life, it's
gonna show mistakes a lot more. As you call them
a mistake. I don't call things a mistakes. Yeah, you hiccupped.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't have a few hiccups.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So for you, because like you said, you get anxiety
when you do interviews, and I know that, like you know,
this is called scar before fame, right, and so now
it's a different level of people paying attention to every
single move that you make and everything, like something that
you might think is like no big deal ends up
going viral, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Like freaking I did a freaking video to my new
track melanin and bananas in the background, and people thought
I was calling black people monkeys.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh I didn't even see people.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
All the beautiful melanated people.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I can't do nothing wrong. I can't do nothing right
in the media, can.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I I said there was I think it was Joe Button.
They were like, she keeps putting stuff in the background
in her videos.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Like, you know what, me and Joe Budden's gonna have
to have a talk. I'm gonna have to sit down
with Joe Butteris because you know, like I do understand
what he was saying, and I didn't take it like offensive,
like he was just giving me constructive criticism. But to
be honest, y'all knew me from Glizzies holding up hot
dogs and rapping about rapping, rapping using a hot dog
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as a microphone. So it's like, come on, now, I'm
just in my creative I'm just being creative. I'm in
my element. I'm not thinking too much on look like
I feel like a lot of artists they want to
look like they're look perfect and look like they made
it and look like I'm just who I am, you
know what I'm saying, And that's just how I create,
and I get how it could look on the outside,
but I'm just being my.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now, what's that balance for you? As far as because
I remember there was also a time when you you know,
being sexy scarlet too, and sometimes people feel like, why
are they making her do that? Like someone's making you
be sexy, but that's also you doing that for yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, no one's making me do nothing. Like you know
what I'm saying, Like, I want to look sexy. I
want to look sexy. I want to look like a tomboy.
I want to look at tomboy. I'm a woman. I
have the freedom to do whatever I want. So when
y'all see me in the baying suit, maybe it's because
I'm at the fucking pool or I'm at the beach,
Like what do y'all want me to just wear times
and big north faced jackets also.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Much they do know it's crazy, but I guess also
when we were introduced to you, it was like, you know,
people feel very protective over you too, just because we
know you from your poetry and we know a lot
of your story, which sometimes the artists we don't know that,
And so I do feel there's a different connection when
it comes to you, and so sometimes people.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Are like, oh, that's ourr.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But we got to let you like blossom and grow
up and become the confident woman to become.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, I do appreciate that part, like of like
my fan base and stuff like that. But you know,
I'm growing into a woman and I'm not the sixteen
year old scar no more. So like they got it,
they're learning to accept that. But I'm not out here
just on a corner just now. You're not pouocie popping, like,
come on.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think it's a diverse right, Like sometimes you are
the girl in the tims and sometimes you are the
girl in a bikini.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah. I like to call it like a I like
to call like a DMX slash a Leah style.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, every woman.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, all right, Now let's talk about this song Runaway Love.
When I tell you that was the writing on that,
the storytelling on that was phenomenal. So when did you
write that? And then getting Mary J. Blige on there
was just the icing on the cake. And obviously this
is also a playoff of the Ludacris track as well,
so talk to me about that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I want to just say, first shout out to
Mary J. Blige Chris just for allowing me to jump
on a classic like this. That Runaway Love record really
spoke to me when I was a little girl going
through what I was going through, and I felt like
Mary was talking to me. So I wanted to make
somebody else feel like that as well, Like when they
hear this new this new remake of Runaway Love, they
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feel like, you know, they're not alone and like I'm
talking to them and like that. Just it just inspired
me and it was so powerful. It was a freestyle
and I was on my way to shoot the video
because I was doing a lot of freestyles, and I
sent it to Swiss. It was on my way. I said, Yo, Swiss,
I'm about to shoot this right now. I'm on my way.
He said, stop the call, turn around and re record it.
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It's going on the album, on the mixtape. I was
like what, but I already paid the camera man, and
he was like, turn the car around. You're putting this
on the mixtape. This is too hard and the Yeah,
So thank you again to Mary J. Blige. She came
to the music video shoot and she's just like she's
like a big sister like Auntie, like you know.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
She just she don't like that. Don't do that. Oh sorry,
you know how you know how some of us be like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He's just a homegirl. I'm really like to my bad, Mary,
my bad.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But that was you know, honestly, like people reacted to
that so strongly, and I just see like that it's
like a mini movie because it's not too many artists
nowadays that are telling stories so vividly the way that
you did. And so is this something that's like a
real or is this something that Skylet like just came
up with like a fictional story, or is this based
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off of anything?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So the Runaway Love track is a make sure of
my story and just stories put together. So like Lisa,
that was just a story of like just other people's
lives that I'll either see no movies or maybe had
a friend that was going through someth like domestic violence.
I see that a lot, suicide awareness, all of those things.
So I just really wanted to do like what Ludacris
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did in the Runaway Love where he was just highlighting
different stories of people's lives as like you know, traumatic events.
So I just wanted to do that. But the Jasmine story,
it was my story. It was a mixture of my
story as well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You know, I think, like I said, the people relate
to you so well. Another thing about you that had
people up in arms was the scar. They were like
you had said that you were gonna get rid of
the scar on your lip, and people were like, no,
don't do it, and you said you were it if.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's like listen, I love the scar on my lip.
I love the scar on my lip. But sometimes I
have like, you know, battles with myself, like I'm gonna
just get rid of it and just be just start fresh,
starting new. I don't need the scar no more. But
then I just remember, like when I have the scar
like on my lip, it just reminds me how strong
I am when I came through. And it's not like
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me looking at the scar and seeing the bad side
no more. I'm seeing the victory now. Every time I'm
look in the mirror and looking at my scar, and
I'm like, I can't get rid of this. This is
like what made me like who I am today. So
I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
See, but I do want to say, at the end
of the day, you do whatever you went for yourself.
I remember when Cardi b first came out and she
was like, I'm not fixing my teeth, like, oh my gosh,
and then she fixed his teeth. Shout out to Cardi
for that. But yeah, so you might change your mind.
Again and decide to do it. But at the end
of the day, whatever Scarlet wants to do is you.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Know what I want to do, and I got the
freedom to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And I fixed his chip tooth.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We thought he was never nods when he had his own.
He used to talk about his chip tooth and then
he went and fix his chip. You never know what
else that you decide to do now as far as
so you did this media training, so no more talking
about relationships and boyfriends.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And lessons in music and lessons in music. And I
got a track right now that highlights my relationship. It's
called east Side feature.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
On Honey Honey Baby, shout out to her. Yes, I
like her, Yeah, no, she's so she hits so small
with such a big boys too, and so is like this, yeah, okay,
so just in the music. So then what happens now
when we hear east Side and then we're like, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This, I confirmed it, like and like yes, like he said,
met me on the east Side, I'm with him on
the east Side right now.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is it hard for you to feel like you can
really like trust somebody as far as being in a
relationship because you are Scarlet now so it's like if
somebody's trying to holler at you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
See now, Angela. When I date men, I have to
watch out. Is he dating me for clout? Is he
dating me for money? Is he dating me to just
get famous? Or do he really care about me? You
know what I'm saying. Like, and I already have like
a hard time trusting men because of my past, So
I really gotta like evaluate you, like is you really
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here for me? Like do you really care about me?
Do you really see me outside of the cloud and
the fame and music? You know what I'm saying, So
that that just be like, you know, I'm having hiccups.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Only hiccups. The only time will tell though, because how
do you really know? Like somebody could seem super genuine.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I feel like you gotta date, Like so some people like, listen,
shout out to my man, cause I love him, I
love you. But some people say, like, oh, you gotta date,
Like if you're a rapper, you got to date a rapper,
or if you like, you gotta date a person like
that's a lawyer or like of your caliber. So you know,
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like y'all both got the same type. So you know
what I'm saying like, y'all got the same type of
money or fame and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So is he your caliber or yeah, you know, it's
interesting you say that because one of my friends told me,
I wish I had money so I could date whoever
I like, which is a whole different way to look
at it, right, because when you're of a sometimes women
are dating for like survival, right, and then sometimes you're
dating because you could really be in a position to say,
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I really like this person, it don't matter what they have,
And it's just two different ways. Because she really was
she really made me think about it, you know, because
but then there's times when you date somebody who ain't
got it and you're like im and then you're like,
I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah no, because like everybody say that, they'd be like, oh,
I hear girls all the time. They'll be like, oh,
if I'm a data man, he gotta have more money
than me. And some men don't like women having more
money than them because they want to be dominant.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sometimes you also don't know how much money somebody has
because any don't tell you anything. Yeah, listen, Scarlet, and
I want to say, you know the position that you're in.
People are thinking right now, look at Scarlet, she rich.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And hold up now yeah, look shut up girl, You're like,
hold on, don't believe Google.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, let's see what this networth looking like.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Don't look, don't believe networks.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But that's also dangerous too, because you never want people
to feel like because everyone will.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Be asking you for stuff. How is that for you?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Now too, I'm gonna tell ya something and I'm not
gonna say no names, right, but I got this family
member right now. So when I first got signed, every
week I would send this this person one thousand dollars,
five hundred dollars, two thousand dollars every time. Right. One
thing is I don't like people that use God as
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an excuse to get money or to be like, oh,
pay your times or pay this. And it's like when
you tell a person yes over and over and one
time you say no, they forget everything you've done for them.
And this person I see as like everything, my everything,
and I'm going through this right now. They ain't even
text me or say congratulations on your album, like nothing,
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the congratulations on the song with Lulu Wayne, congratulations on
this body of work. Nothing. They don't give a fuck
because I won't give them no money.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
See it. And I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I've been through that a lot, where you could do
everything for somebody and the one time you don't do it,
then all of a sudden it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah. And I told this person. I told another person,
I said, start a business and I'll fund your business.
Stop calling me every day for money, right, start a business,
I'll fund it. Or I pay for you to go
to school and nothing and call me.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's accountability on their part then, right. If somebody's like, oh,
give me some like okay, I'll do it, but I
need you to do X, Y and Z or you
need to like let me know how you can make
money yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, And that inspired the song Lord Please like that song.
It's like Lord, please like be patient with me, like
because I don't know like people acting crazy, Like Lord,
just just give me grace to just get through the season.
Like that's why that's that inspired little Please.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Do you have an accountant? Yeah, okay, because I was
gonna say, when could.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
She on my hills? She'd be like, you ain't gonna
be sending out this money every time.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You gotta how to blame the account. You gotta be like, look,
I'm on a budget. And because also I think it's
danger to let people know what you have. That's why
I'm like, sometimes people don't need to think that you're rich,
Like you know, you're investing, and you gotta be investing
in yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's one thing I learned.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
People always ask me what do I wish I would
have did differently, And I'm like, I wish I would
have started like saving, investing, buying, you know, not earlier.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I do wish that I would have I'm okay, but
I do wish like starting and getting signed, I didn't
just freeload send people money. And also the down on
that door dash, because that door dash that DoorDash for
your fifty thousand dollars, and you were like, hold up,
we had a fifty thousand dollars go it went to DoorDash.
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You right about that?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I know I used my NAT.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You brought up Little Wayne just now you open up
the album with that banger with tml Wayne on it
pop that talk to me about how this Little Wayne
feature happened?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Pop that okay? So the pop that record y'all here
right now sounds nothing like the first pop that version.
It was like some freaky pop that Swiss is like, Nah,
we don't want to go that road. Let's let's do this.
You know. When he says something, I'm just like, Okay,
let's do it. He said, we gotta go, we gotta
go this route. We gotta do it like this. It
was so like it wasn't easy to make pop that
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like Swiss had to like bring me in the studio
and sit me down and be like you, I'm not
leaving to you finish this record, and this mad pressure.
Like he's a good person, like you know what I'm saying,
He's amazing to work with, but it'd be pressure sometimes
like in the studio of Swiss because it's like, damn,
I gotta do my best. I gotta make the best verses.
I gotta you know what I'm saying. But I finished it.
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And then you know, like probably like I would say,
a week later. A week later, I'm driving right, just
driving because I like to drive. I get a call
from Swiss. Swiss like, yo, check out what I just
sent you. I'm like what he said, check out what
I just sent you. I check it. I play it right,
I'm like, Okay, this is the record, pop that and
get quiet, and then I heard a lighter flick and
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you know what that means when the lighter flip. And
then I heard Wayne Verse. I almost crashed the car.
We almost crashed. We went crazy. We was like, Yo,
this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's amazing to have. Swiss is like your fairy godfather.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He is, I'm telling you in real life. Like he
changed my life so much. I really just appreciate him.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And he is for sure in your corner at all times.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
All right, now, I want to ask you so about
skal a baby on the album Yes, and how that
happened could have been me?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know that record finest.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That record was two years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I want to say they had this in the stats
for a minute, but it sounds quite current two years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah. But I'm a big supporter of him, Like I remember,
like when we both started blowing up, like at the
early stages of our career, career, we was we did
an interview, like we were in the same building and
he was doing an interview with a person that I
was about to do an interview with. And I've always
supported him, and like I just want to say, like
God bless him. I hope he's okay. Ye see, he
recovered and we just the whole team is just praying
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for him, like we're just happy he's good. But I'm
just very grateful that he did this track because it
was fire.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was fine.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now I got to ask you what was on the
pop that originally Thatwiz was like all right, hey, yah.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Know so this is don't judge me, but the pop
that chat here right now went like this, let me
pop the Zucci Daddy, Let me pop Tzucci. Let me
pop the Zucci Daddy. Let me And then I was
like twistly, hold up, just saying what we're doing. She's
hot ready in let's stay away from she's hot right now?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
How did he feel about that?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right? So the record she's hot, he told me
because I posted a video right yep, I remember, and
it wasn't appropriate, right, He was like.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He didn't even see it before until you posted it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, I'm leaving up and I lift it up and
I shouldn't have did that, you think? So yeah, my
fans really, like everybody like responded the opposite is what
I thought they was going to respond to. So I
was like, shit, I should have listened.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So you do feel like people have a certain expectation
of you, and you you hold yourself to that standard.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I do have to, especially if I want to like
make it and this like music, like I do gotta
like stay stay like in the lane of my brand
because your brand is important and I know that now,
and I'm like, okay, so this is my brand. This
is what I have to like stay in the realm
of like keep it like this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
What's been the hardest part for you of all of this?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
The hardest part of all of this would have to be, like, hmmm,
I got to keep some some things off social media. Okay,
I feel like I got to keep certain things on
social media. Everybody don't need to know if I'm kicking
out a nigga or just some bad shit like that.
Nobody needs to know that. So I just got to
keep that off. I gotta keep it strictly music. That's
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why my media train i'd be telling me, like, keep
it focused on your music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I get that in all, but I also feel like,
you know, we like at snippets a lot peeks into
into what's going on. In Scarlet's life, because that's also
how people relate to the music. If then if they
know a little something about you, yeah, you know so
well listen, Scarlett, congratulations on this. Does this mean there's
a full, full length project on the way, because I
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know this, this was a long time in the making.
How is your patience as far as waiting for this
to be able to come out? Because like you said,
you know, you've had could have been me for two years.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I wasn't ready to drop a tape yet. Oh so
I didn't want to drop the tape. My team, like
you know, they understood, they wanted me to drop, but
we all was in agreement, like we wanted to like
really be like we was missing Runaway Love. You know
what I'm saying, Okay, and when we may run Away Love,
That's what was like. All right, now it's starting to
feel complete, Like this album is starting to feel complete,
(21:21):
Like it got my life, it got my poetry, it
got my love, it got the New York energy, the
drill scene, like it just has all of that. And
that's when we felt like now it's Tom and my fans,
you know, they was tuned into the freestyles and everything.
Every week. Let me tell you something with y'all don't know,
I had to work work to be able to drop this.
You'll understand what I'm saying. I was freestyling for probably
(21:44):
I had to do like fifty freestyles until this tape
was able to be drop.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now that's a boot camp there right there for you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
One thing about you also that I think is amazing
is the spirit of giving back that you always have,
you know, giving back in your community. And one of
the biggest moments from Angela ye day when you came
and performed, was even just you backstage, you know, showing love,
like there was somebody there who was a huge fan
of yours. And it's just beautiful to see cause I
(22:14):
know a lot of that is you knowing where you
came from and what you've had to go through, and
I can feel that like that makes you feel like,
you know, just that connection to want to give back
and be that person.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, And I do like these give backs like for holidays,
you know, things, giving hair days for the community and
the Bronx like all types of stuff, because I know
how it feels like to not have nothing, like you
know me, like not having nothing, not having like people
to celebrate with and stuff. So I just like celebrate
with the people because I'm just like dumb, you know
what I'm saying, Like I feel how y'all feel, you know,
(22:47):
and if I have the power and the ability to
change it and make somebody day better, why.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Not do you ever sit back and say, I can't
believe this is my life?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I did say that the other day, Like I see
myself on the news. I think it was ABC News, Yeah,
ABC News, And I said, wow, Like I remember like
on TikTok sharing my story and now I'm in on
the news sharing my story. I said, this is crazy?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, it isn't life amazing?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, it's so many blessings to you, Scar before famous
out right now. People have amazing things to say about it.
It's got so much energy, a lot of range. I
love how all seven songs are so different from each other,
you know, So congratulations to you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Know.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I'm always in your corner, cheering for you and rooting
you on, so I cannot wait to see what's next.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well,
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