March 17, 2025 • 16 mins
Lizzo Talks New Music, Breakup Anthems, Boundaries, 'Pussy Lasers' + More
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
His way up at Angela Yee and Keim was not leaving.
Listen here, what's up all the way up? All the
way up and listen. I do want to say that
I'm just excited to have you. I'll never forget Lizzo.
We were doing this keynote at south By Southwest and
I couldn't believe you were like.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm nervous, and I was like, Lizzo is nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I just was like, You're just so Sometimes I just
like to say it so I could feel like a
normal person.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, because I was nervous. Okay, I felt better.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh, yes, I was so nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I do get nervous though, Like I just played my
first show in like two years, and I lay up
the wheel turn and I'm playing guitar now and I've
only been playing guitar for a month and a half,
and I was so fucking nervous. My stomach was doing
some own bios. It was flipping back with some mobiles
and I was like Jesus, and I was like, don't
fuck up, don't fuck up. So I still get nervous,
(00:56):
Like even to this day, I was nervous two days ago.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I feel like, people wouldn't know if you messed up
that want a guitar while you were only you would know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's rock and roll. So if you mess up, it's
like better just keep going. Yeah yeah, they were like, yeah,
keep going. I was like okay, Like I played the
wrong one of my solo and they was like it
was fire.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm like, all right, well listen, we've heard love in
real life first. That was the That is actually the
title track for the album. And I love that because
I always say that people say things to you on
social media that they would never say in real life.
And You're like, where are these people in real life?
Because when I'm out in real life, like today, I
was coming here, I went to go get a juice
(01:30):
and I'm just minding my business on my phone and
I forget that people might know who I am. And
they were so nice to me and it actually made
my day, like for them to say positive things to me,
And so you're right, like that, love and real life
is so much more important than anything.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, those people who are saying things about you
on the internet, they're not even real. And that's what
I had to I've been so gas lit by bots, bots,
I'm like, wait a minute, who paid for this?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You're not even real? But yeah, that's what the album
title comes from.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I was in like a really dark place in my
life and I was like afraid of people.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And then I went out to a concert and I
got so much love from people I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
They were like, I love you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We were hugging and crying, and it was so many
black people too.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
That just made me feel so good. And I was like,
you know what, you can't get this on the internet.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, you gotta go outside.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You have to find it in real life. And that's
the only kind of love I want these days. The
internet love is fake, It's fickle. I have a little
something for you here. I gotta way up message for you,
and this is from somebody special to you.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Oh my god, is it Jesus?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It says Yitty. First of all, bitch, the body is tea.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I want you to always know how amazing you are,
how sweet, loving, kind and sassy in all the best ways.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's the Carmen energy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Thing is that my cousin.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The best parts of you the world hasn't even discovered yet.
They have only seen a glimpse. Your father would be
beyond proud of not only you as an artist, but
you as a person. So thankful to call you not
only my favorite cousin but one of my best friends.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Love pooh shante.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are even before you stay Carmen, I said, wait a minute,
because when she come, because you know what it was, it.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Was hey Yiti.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah and mind you, I thought that Yitdy was like,
oh wait, it's just like from someone at Yidie.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But then when I realized this what she called me,
I said, oh, only only my family called me yitdy.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So yeah, so sweet, and you know I was in detroitch.
She actually cut my hair. The last person to coume
my hair is your cousin.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, listen, we got hairstyles hands. It's just it's in
our it's in our blood.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Okay. I would have been a hair too if I
could get my shit together.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You got your ship together. Cut it out.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now what you're doing is you know now still bad?
So let's talk about these visuals. Yeah, you know her
love and real life and is still bad? Ikeme was
blown away.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
The music video was for Not We just watched it.
The music video was phenomenal. Thank you, everything from the
choreography to the the Angela Bassett you walking.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Away from exhale right, yeah, kind moment it.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Was giving to me.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
It was giving little inviting who when we were walking
through the woods with your red outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yep, and a little bit of carry when they throw
the black I didn't know this pain.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's pain.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just want everyone to know. Yeah, and even symbolically,
like I'm not messing with blood like that, it was pain.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, I just thought to catch Scarlet Letter. Okay, okay,
Scarlet Letter because I was trying to. We were watching it,
and I feel like there's so much more deeper, like
hidden and it's called still Bad, and I also thought
about bad and Michael.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yes, the choreography was amazing, Thank you. It was. It
was great. It was a really good video. I can't
wait to watch it, guys.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm I really appreciate it. I feel like I've never
done anything like this before. Like I wanted to show
the world more of like and the way that I think.
And I have an amazing creative director. Her name is
Molly Hawkins, and she really pushed me. She was like,
I just want the world to know how weird you are,
Like you watch anime and you like rings and like
(05:12):
bring that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I'm just like, Okay, let's go on this journey.
And it's a story about just like finding you, losing yourself,
and then finding yourself again. I mean, I'm battling tweets.
I'm battling the twitter birds in the forest. The car
blowing up like the car. You know, I was on
top of the car at the end of love and
real life and then by still bad. By the time
(05:35):
I went into the forest, the car's on fire. It's
like the self destruction. You have to destroy the self
destruction or the inner saboteur.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So it does have all of these meanings. I want
the Internet to do their thing.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I want it to mean different things, right.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I wanted to mean different things to different people.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And it's going to be one of those onesday people
are doing that side by side. When people do that,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I know, go do it, y'all, Go run that shit up.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I also love a good breakup song because people don't
even listen to that. It sounds so happy and fun
you're not even thinking about it. It's like getting over
a breakup and those are always good because we always
need those.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I have so many of those that people don't realize,
like good as hell.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'm like, he don't love you anymore, walk your fine
ass out the door, and they'd be like, it's just
so happy. I'm like, it's some sad shit, But who
else is gonna make that song when you need to
get happy again after going through some sad shit? Still
Bad is a breakup song with the world. I wrote
a breakup song. It was a country song, and it
was like I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Need them, I need a drink, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And I was like, okay, I needed that to find
the emotion from it. And then it was just I
don't need him, but like I needed to break up
with the world. Then I needed to like get my
get back, and I wanted them to see me out
at the club and be like, damn, I want to
text her. I want the world to be like, damn,
I miss her, I miss babe. So that's that's what
(07:03):
the song is about.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well it feels good, I'm glad you're back together with
the world.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh we'll see y'all got back together. Even calling me, yeah,
even calling me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I may have picked up once or twice text Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was like, who I'm.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Asleep even though I was up, but I didn't respond.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We love that, like how long should I take you?
And I respond? Do I respond?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's where we're at right now. We're flirting with us.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Send the cash app period, No literally, I met send
the cash app with the world right now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now people really got a chance to see how fun
you are when you did cuss and that, and when
we get to see you with Sizza, I feel like
that's like your your twin flame when it comes to friendship.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, literally, we're like sister signs. She's scorpio on tourists.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I'm scorpio.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh I like scorpio women, but not scorpio men.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
So it's still like in the middle.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Okay, scorpio women, yes, not scorpion men. Is it because
their cheaters?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Ye, I'm so sorry, never cheated.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
But also I've never dated, so it's a middle.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah I have today, I'd be a dog.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
If you're singing, you can't be a cheated I turned to.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Tell him one time, cheat up your single, I'll tell them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Don't sleep with these guys right away, and he got
mad at me because.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
He did friend zoned because a guy thought I wasn't
interested in him because I didn't sleep with him right away,
and then he thought I was Now I got friend
zoned because of your advice.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Sorry, but is it ever over though?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
You can always no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
He moved, Okay, his.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Life, he moved.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
He lives in LA I live in New York.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I listen technically for work, I do go out there,
but girl, I'm back out on the streets.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Okay, welcome to the street.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, we're outside population too.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So now I know there's a whole album coming love
and real love in real.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Life, do you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And it's interesting that you put out the title right
away too, you know, And so you just know this
is kind of like a themed album for you, you think, hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, yes, but it's not like too stuck to a theme.
I put out the title track first because it was
just good, Like I wanted to show the world that
what I'm coming with this time is different, and I
wanted to show them the rock and roll of it all,
and I wanted to like shake.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It up and be and get people excited about what
I was coming with.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So that's why I dropped that, And then the rest
of it is going to be you know, that's still bad.
It is like the lizzle you know, and love if
you know, but I had to shake people up first.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I just want to say you're looking good as hell,
just to quote, hell.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I've been you know, yeah, I've been glowing. I've been glowing.
I've been glowing. But I think I just intentionally was like,
you know what, it's time to release some weight.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And I did and I'm doing it. And it wasn't
just that I.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Went on a skincare journey because my skin always I'm like,
I was like it could be better, right, So I
like threw myself into that. I really threw myself into
myself in the past like two years. Like I just
have routines now and I can't deviate from them, like
meditation and the way that I eat and the way
that I the vitamins and supplements that I take and
my hair routine and everything is just like yeah, the
(10:24):
verbal moon how long do you meditate depends if I
don't have much right, if I don't have much time,
I try to just get a ten minute off, a
ten to fifteen minute off.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I thought about what you just said, because did you
watch that Luthor documentary. I did not it's so good,
but I just want to say we had the producer
up here, the director, and one of his best friends.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And they were in part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They show all these different times when everybody's asking him
about his way, and it used to bother him so
much because it's like physically, like why is this such
a big situation that we feel like we can just
keep on, you know, asking somebody about and they kind
of put it all together with everybody, and he just
kind of got frustrated, you know, with the whole thing.
And I feel like you've been open and I saw
(11:09):
your posts about your journey and what it is that
you've been doing, and you look amazing, but I felt
like you did. I've always felt like Lizzie, it's part
falling amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, you know, I just think people don't have boundaries
with fat people. I don't think we were taught that
as kids to have a bad it's the one like
bullied thing that is like acceptable. It's like okay to
bully fat people. Like we watch cartoons and movies and
it's like you know, respucia and clumpsus bending over, like
(11:39):
it's like okay to do that, But if it was
any other thing, any other kind of.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Person, it'd be like, oh, that's mean, you can't do that,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I think like, even like the way we were
all conditioned, it just makes like us the butt of
the joke all the time. So I think that's why
the public feels so entitled to big people's business and
they and they feel so entire idled to comment on
all the time, and.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's like, bitch the fuck.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But I have a different perspective on it because I'm like,
bring it on, because I got an answer for you
every time.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Always it's more women than men, because I don't see
the same people in the comments of fat men as
I see in fat women. Right, It's I never see
people in other people's comments, like it's always women.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It's weird because.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Women are objectified, you know, in media, and it's like
always about how we look, always about our bodies.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And there's this like perception of like if you're big, you've.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Let yourself go, or you don't like yourself, or you're
not beautiful or not healthy. I can't believe how many
people think that just because you're fat, you're not pretty
like bitch ugly where you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Like, look at my DM.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So hello, and the people in the DM hello, and
kill at my at my heaviest weight.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Your faves don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, well listen, I know you have a lot going on,
But last thing I want to ask you, what did
you think you learned about yourself? Take in those two
years just dealing with Lizzo and the skin glowing and
everything and getting yourself like where you needed to be
to come back out.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The special era is over, like you said.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You're in a new era by bitch, So what did
you learn about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's such a It's crazy because it's like I learned
who I am, And I think if I could sum
that up into one phrase, I learned that I am
enough once I once I was alone and I really
had time to like discover what I like and what
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And once I.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Learned who Melissa is and who Lizzo is, I was like,
she's enough, and that's amazing. You don't gotta have You
don't got to roll with a million friends. You don't
have to have videos and shit go viral all the
time on the internet to feel any type of self worth.
You don't even need to be putting out music. You
don't even need a number one or a Grammy to
(13:55):
feel good enough. And that made me like, lock the
fucking with me, Like that was the beginning of like,
let me lock in and make sure that like this
is who I'm going to be for the rest of
my life because I like her and I want to
make sure she's safe and protected.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I love that. That's the quote for the interview. Thank
you so much, Lizzo. It's always a pleasure to talk
to you. And hopefully I'm like, this was so short listen,
I just I had to be like, please put me
on the itinerary because I knew you were going to
be in the building, so I'm here. Yeah, I was like,
I need to talk to some Lizzo because there's no
way you're not gonna come and at least stop, you know,
do a quick job through.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I can't believe my cousin showed up. She gonna find
a way.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I do think it's really nice and interviews, like, you know,
I interviewed Tony Tony Tony and her you know, Dwayne
was really crucial to the beginning of her career, so
I think it's nice when you get a good message
and some positivity and she loves you so much, really sweet.
I got a chance to meet her baby when I
was over there getting my hair done. Yeah wait which
one that both of them actually the daughter and the Yeah,
(14:59):
so cute.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So adorable. They're just like they stole her face and
she looked like little cab.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think family is so important.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The family is such a reflection on who you are,
you know, and I think that people seeing you with
your family, even its cousin and she does everybody's here
and she's you know, she's the mom too.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Shout out Detroit, what up though? Okay, shout out to Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And I hope we get some pussy Laser's music, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wait, threw the off, we get some pussy I said, wait,
what know?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
But then when the second game, I said, okay, Jesus,
but how do you know about that? I told you
about that. I told you about that.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, I know that I read about it that you
and said they had a group with a third person
that we had we don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yes, well not because I don't. I just don't love
I don't like telling people's business.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean that might put some pressure on.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It might be fire.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think I think a little pussy.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I mean typically I don't like Puzzy but the name.
But if we're doing the little group.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
All right, the best?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
No not no, thank you, Liza,
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
His way up at Angela Yee and Keim was not leaving.
Listen here, what's up all the way up? All the
way up and listen. I do want to say that
I'm just excited to have you. I'll never forget Lizzo.
We were doing this keynote at south By Southwest and
I couldn't believe you were like.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm nervous, and I was like, Lizzo is nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I just was like, You're just so Sometimes I just
like to say it so I could feel like a
normal person.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, because I was nervous. Okay, I felt better.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh, yes, I was so nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I do get nervous though, Like I just played my
first show in like two years, and I lay up
the wheel turn and I'm playing guitar now and I've
only been playing guitar for a month and a half,
and I was so fucking nervous. My stomach was doing
some own bios. It was flipping back with some mobiles
and I was like Jesus, and I was like, don't
fuck up, don't fuck up. So I still get nervous,
(00:56):
Like even to this day, I was nervous two days ago.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I feel like, people wouldn't know if you messed up
that want a guitar while you were only you would know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's rock and roll. So if you mess up, it's
like better just keep going. Yeah yeah, they were like, yeah,
keep going. I was like okay, Like I played the
wrong one of my solo and they was like it
was fire.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm like, all right, well listen, we've heard love in
real life first. That was the That is actually the
title track for the album. And I love that because
I always say that people say things to you on
social media that they would never say in real life.
And You're like, where are these people in real life?
Because when I'm out in real life, like today, I
was coming here, I went to go get a juice
(01:30):
and I'm just minding my business on my phone and
I forget that people might know who I am. And
they were so nice to me and it actually made
my day, like for them to say positive things to me,
And so you're right, like that, love and real life
is so much more important than anything.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, those people who are saying things about you
on the internet, they're not even real. And that's what
I had to I've been so gas lit by bots, bots,
I'm like, wait a minute, who paid for this?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You're not even real? But yeah, that's what the album
title comes from.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I was in like a really dark place in my
life and I was like afraid of people.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And then I went out to a concert and I
got so much love from people I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
They were like, I love you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We were hugging and crying, and it was so many
black people too.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
That just made me feel so good. And I was like,
you know what, you can't get this on the internet.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, you gotta go outside.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You have to find it in real life. And that's
the only kind of love I want these days. The
internet love is fake, It's fickle. I have a little
something for you here. I gotta way up message for you,
and this is from somebody special to you.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Oh my god, is it Jesus?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It says Yitty. First of all, bitch, the body is tea.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I want you to always know how amazing you are,
how sweet, loving, kind and sassy in all the best ways.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's the Carmen energy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Thing is that my cousin.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The best parts of you the world hasn't even discovered yet.
They have only seen a glimpse. Your father would be
beyond proud of not only you as an artist, but
you as a person. So thankful to call you not
only my favorite cousin but one of my best friends.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Love pooh shante.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are even before you stay Carmen, I said, wait a minute,
because when she come, because you know what it was, it.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Was hey Yiti.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah and mind you, I thought that Yitdy was like,
oh wait, it's just like from someone at Yidie.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But then when I realized this what she called me,
I said, oh, only only my family called me yitdy.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So yeah, so sweet, and you know I was in detroitch.
She actually cut my hair. The last person to coume
my hair is your cousin.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, listen, we got hairstyles hands. It's just it's in
our it's in our blood.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Okay. I would have been a hair too if I
could get my shit together.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You got your ship together. Cut it out.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now what you're doing is you know now still bad?
So let's talk about these visuals. Yeah, you know her
love and real life and is still bad? Ikeme was
blown away.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
The music video was for Not We just watched it.
The music video was phenomenal. Thank you, everything from the
choreography to the the Angela Bassett you walking.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Away from exhale right, yeah, kind moment it.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Was giving to me.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
It was giving little inviting who when we were walking
through the woods with your red outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yep, and a little bit of carry when they throw
the black I didn't know this pain.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's pain.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I just want everyone to know. Yeah, and even symbolically,
like I'm not messing with blood like that, it was pain.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, I just thought to catch Scarlet Letter. Okay, okay,
Scarlet Letter because I was trying to. We were watching it,
and I feel like there's so much more deeper, like
hidden and it's called still Bad, and I also thought
about bad and Michael.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yes, the choreography was amazing, Thank you. It was. It
was great. It was a really good video. I can't
wait to watch it, guys.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm I really appreciate it. I feel like I've never
done anything like this before. Like I wanted to show
the world more of like and the way that I think.
And I have an amazing creative director. Her name is
Molly Hawkins, and she really pushed me. She was like,
I just want the world to know how weird you are,
Like you watch anime and you like rings and like
(05:12):
bring that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I'm just like, Okay, let's go on this journey.
And it's a story about just like finding you, losing yourself,
and then finding yourself again. I mean, I'm battling tweets.
I'm battling the twitter birds in the forest. The car
blowing up like the car. You know, I was on
top of the car at the end of love and
real life and then by still bad. By the time
(05:35):
I went into the forest, the car's on fire. It's
like the self destruction. You have to destroy the self
destruction or the inner saboteur.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So it does have all of these meanings. I want
the Internet to do their thing.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I want it to mean different things, right.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I wanted to mean different things to different people.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And it's going to be one of those onesday people
are doing that side by side. When people do that,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I know, go do it, y'all, Go run that shit up.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I also love a good breakup song because people don't
even listen to that. It sounds so happy and fun
you're not even thinking about it. It's like getting over
a breakup and those are always good because we always
need those.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I have so many of those that people don't realize,
like good as hell.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'm like, he don't love you anymore, walk your fine
ass out the door, and they'd be like, it's just
so happy. I'm like, it's some sad shit, But who
else is gonna make that song when you need to
get happy again after going through some sad shit? Still
Bad is a breakup song with the world. I wrote
a breakup song. It was a country song, and it
was like I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Need them, I need a drink, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
And I was like, okay, I needed that to find
the emotion from it. And then it was just I
don't need him, but like I needed to break up
with the world. Then I needed to like get my
get back, and I wanted them to see me out
at the club and be like, damn, I want to
text her. I want the world to be like, damn,
I miss her, I miss babe. So that's that's what
(07:03):
the song is about.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well it feels good, I'm glad you're back together with
the world.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh we'll see y'all got back together. Even calling me, yeah,
even calling me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I may have picked up once or twice text Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was like, who I'm.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Asleep even though I was up, but I didn't respond.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We love that, like how long should I take you?
And I respond? Do I respond?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's where we're at right now. We're flirting with us.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Send the cash app period, No literally, I met send
the cash app with the world right now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now people really got a chance to see how fun
you are when you did cuss and that, and when
we get to see you with Sizza, I feel like
that's like your your twin flame when it comes to friendship.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, literally, we're like sister signs. She's scorpio on tourists.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I'm scorpio.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh I like scorpio women, but not scorpio men.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
So it's still like in the middle.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Okay, scorpio women, yes, not scorpion men. Is it because
their cheaters?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Ye, I'm so sorry, never cheated.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
But also I've never dated, so it's a middle.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah I have today, I'd be a dog.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
If you're singing, you can't be a cheated I turned to.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Tell him one time, cheat up your single, I'll tell them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Don't sleep with these guys right away, and he got
mad at me because.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
He did friend zoned because a guy thought I wasn't
interested in him because I didn't sleep with him right away,
and then he thought I was Now I got friend
zoned because of your advice.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Sorry, but is it ever over though?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
You can always no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
He moved, Okay, his.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Life, he moved.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
He lives in LA I live in New York.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I listen technically for work, I do go out there,
but girl, I'm back out on the streets.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Okay, welcome to the street.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, we're outside population too.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So now I know there's a whole album coming love
and real love in real.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Life, do you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And it's interesting that you put out the title right
away too, you know, And so you just know this
is kind of like a themed album for you, you think, hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, yes, but it's not like too stuck to a theme.
I put out the title track first because it was
just good, Like I wanted to show the world that
what I'm coming with this time is different, and I
wanted to show them the rock and roll of it all,
and I wanted to like shake.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It up and be and get people excited about what
I was coming with.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So that's why I dropped that, And then the rest
of it is going to be you know, that's still bad.
It is like the lizzle you know, and love if
you know, but I had to shake people up first.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I just want to say you're looking good as hell,
just to quote, hell.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I've been you know, yeah, I've been glowing. I've been glowing.
I've been glowing. But I think I just intentionally was like,
you know what, it's time to release some weight.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And I did and I'm doing it. And it wasn't
just that I.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Went on a skincare journey because my skin always I'm like,
I was like it could be better, right, So I
like threw myself into that. I really threw myself into
myself in the past like two years. Like I just
have routines now and I can't deviate from them, like
meditation and the way that I eat and the way
that I the vitamins and supplements that I take and
my hair routine and everything is just like yeah, the
(10:24):
verbal moon how long do you meditate depends if I
don't have much right, if I don't have much time,
I try to just get a ten minute off, a
ten to fifteen minute off.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I thought about what you just said, because did you
watch that Luthor documentary. I did not it's so good,
but I just want to say we had the producer
up here, the director, and one of his best friends.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And they were in part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They show all these different times when everybody's asking him
about his way, and it used to bother him so
much because it's like physically, like why is this such
a big situation that we feel like we can just
keep on, you know, asking somebody about and they kind
of put it all together with everybody, and he just
kind of got frustrated, you know, with the whole thing.
And I feel like you've been open and I saw
(11:09):
your posts about your journey and what it is that
you've been doing, and you look amazing, but I felt
like you did. I've always felt like Lizzie, it's part
falling amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, you know, I just think people don't have boundaries
with fat people. I don't think we were taught that
as kids to have a bad it's the one like
bullied thing that is like acceptable. It's like okay to
bully fat people. Like we watch cartoons and movies and
it's like you know, respucia and clumpsus bending over, like
(11:39):
it's like okay to do that, But if it was
any other thing, any other kind of.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Person, it'd be like, oh, that's mean, you can't do that,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I think like, even like the way we were
all conditioned, it just makes like us the butt of
the joke all the time. So I think that's why
the public feels so entitled to big people's business and
they and they feel so entire idled to comment on
all the time, and.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's like, bitch the fuck.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But I have a different perspective on it because I'm like,
bring it on, because I got an answer for you
every time.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Always it's more women than men, because I don't see
the same people in the comments of fat men as
I see in fat women. Right, It's I never see
people in other people's comments, like it's always women.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
It's weird because.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Women are objectified, you know, in media, and it's like
always about how we look, always about our bodies.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And there's this like perception of like if you're big, you've.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Let yourself go, or you don't like yourself, or you're
not beautiful or not healthy. I can't believe how many
people think that just because you're fat, you're not pretty
like bitch ugly where you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Like, look at my DM.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So hello, and the people in the DM hello, and
kill at my at my heaviest weight.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Your faves don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, well listen, I know you have a lot going on,
But last thing I want to ask you, what did
you think you learned about yourself? Take in those two
years just dealing with Lizzo and the skin glowing and
everything and getting yourself like where you needed to be
to come back out.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The special era is over, like you said.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You're in a new era by bitch, So what did
you learn about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's such a It's crazy because it's like I learned
who I am, And I think if I could sum
that up into one phrase, I learned that I am
enough once I once I was alone and I really
had time to like discover what I like and what
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And once I.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Learned who Melissa is and who Lizzo is, I was like,
she's enough, and that's amazing. You don't gotta have You
don't got to roll with a million friends. You don't
have to have videos and shit go viral all the
time on the internet to feel any type of self worth.
You don't even need to be putting out music. You
don't even need a number one or a Grammy to
(13:55):
feel good enough. And that made me like, lock the
fucking with me, Like that was the beginning of like,
let me lock in and make sure that like this
is who I'm going to be for the rest of
my life because I like her and I want to
make sure she's safe and protected.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I love that. That's the quote for the interview. Thank
you so much, Lizzo. It's always a pleasure to talk
to you. And hopefully I'm like, this was so short listen,
I just I had to be like, please put me
on the itinerary because I knew you were going to
be in the building, so I'm here. Yeah, I was like,
I need to talk to some Lizzo because there's no
way you're not gonna come and at least stop, you know,
do a quick job through.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I can't believe my cousin showed up. She gonna find
a way.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I do think it's really nice and interviews, like, you know,
I interviewed Tony Tony Tony and her you know, Dwayne
was really crucial to the beginning of her career, so
I think it's nice when you get a good message
and some positivity and she loves you so much, really sweet.
I got a chance to meet her baby when I
was over there getting my hair done. Yeah wait which
one that both of them actually the daughter and the Yeah,
(14:59):
so cute.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So adorable. They're just like they stole her face and
she looked like little cab.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think family is so important.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The family is such a reflection on who you are,
you know, and I think that people seeing you with
your family, even its cousin and she does everybody's here
and she's you know, she's the mom too.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Shout out Detroit, what up though? Okay, shout out to Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And I hope we get some pussy Laser's music, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wait, threw the off, we get some pussy I said, wait,
what know?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
But then when the second game, I said, okay, Jesus,
but how do you know about that? I told you
about that. I told you about that.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, I know that I read about it that you
and said they had a group with a third person
that we had we don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yes, well not because I don't. I just don't love
I don't like telling people's business.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean that might put some pressure on.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
It might be fire.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think I think a little pussy.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I mean typically I don't like Puzzy but the name.
But if we're doing the little group.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
All right, the best?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
No not no, thank you, Liza,
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