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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What I called her? Ye? Yeah, it's up in Angela. Ye,
I'm Angela Yee. Jasmine Brand is here with me. Good morning,
and Chris where this moon is back again? Hey? What's popping?
Is the founder and CEO of Pop Viewers. Yes, and
then NBC and MSNBC. What's the full title? I'm sorry,

(00:25):
MSNBC and NBC News Entertainment contributor. Entertainment contributor. And he
also has a mean bob shoulder. I was over yet.
Can we talk about this song, this intro song, cause
I get like that as a single for the gym
because I'm albready to pop it over here? Is that
it's give Me P Valley. It's given Me P Valley.
Like the music track? Yeah, then shout out supplies. He

(00:49):
actually just did this song for the show. Just got
to put it as a single because it's a whole
song too. It's more than just we can know. Okay,
I'll send me send it to you. It's a great
song when I heard it. Oh, we need this song show.
But yes, we are going to do Shina Light, you know,
we like to start it on the up. I love

(01:09):
having Chris here too, because he comes in here and
he's just like boom, yeah in the road. Life is beautiful.
And we are in New York City. We are in
one of the greatest cities in the world. When you
walk into this building, it just hits you. Yeah, help us.
Snow hit us yesterday. I love the snow. But we're
in a lot of great We're in thirty nine cities
all the way up at the end of the year,

(01:30):
which is exciting. So and I'll be traveling to some
of them starting next week. Oh yeah, you guys can
call us out right. So we always start the show
with shining a light on somebody who's doing something positive,
somebody who's bringing some sunshine into your life, like Chris
is doing for us this morning. And the number is
eight hundred two nine to fifty one fifty. So if
there's somebody that you saw on the news that you're like, oh,

(01:50):
that person just did something amazing, I want to shine
a light on them. Maybe it's a family member, maybe
it's a co worker, maybe it's a complete stranger who
you ran into and they just brightened up day. Because
sometimes little things like that can happen. Yes, sometimes you're
out and about and you're like, I'm having a tough day,
and as someone says something nice or does something nice,
and you're like, there is amazing humanity in this world.

(02:11):
Random acts of kindness, that's just about I try to
do those throughout the day, like I make it a
conscious thing, like hold a door for someone or pay
for someone's food just unexpectedly. Yeah, I love that. That's
a great It comes back to you. It does. Every
time I do something nice, I feel like something ten
times better happens to me. Chris bought me some snacks. Yes,
that's it. That's why I did. Something good happen to

(02:33):
me one fifty Shine a light, um, call us up
and you guys can spread some love. It's way up
with Angela yee. It's time to shine a light on
the Yes, it is way up with Angela yee. And
of course you know it's time to shine a light
on somebody doing something positive. You'll call up eight hundred

(02:55):
two nine two fifty one fifty and jask me you
want to shine a light on somebody. Yes, I want
to shine a light on my good girlfriend Nina Parker.
Chris is over here really shining in a light. This
one is joining us this morning to I appreciate that.
My girlfriend, Nina Parker, she's a TV hole. She has
her own fashion line. She is just a dope woman overall.

(03:17):
She's super supportive. Her line's at Macy's right, her line
is at Macy's. She's an amazing person. Also, she's like
my low key therapist. Whenever I need anything, I can
call her crying and she talks me off left, left,
off cliffs, And she is just an overall giving person.
And she's like really genuine and she goes above and
beyond for me and our friends. We've been friends for

(03:37):
years and she's the same person and she's just always
given to me and I, you know, I just love
her so much. I just wanted to shine a light
on't even for no appearance, but shine a light on Union.
And I wish Jasmine would let us be friends. Girl.
She's the best friend in my head, by the way, Nina. Yeah, Okay,
Well let's see who you guys want to shine a
light on. Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty Hello.
Who's this? My name is Bam. I have a podcast.

(03:58):
I'm talking. I really wanted to kind of light on them. Okay,
so you want to trying to light on your podcast.
Who else is on it? No? On myself, I'm sorry,
not just the podcast for myself. I am a single mom,
I take accelerated classes full time. I'm working on buying
my kids our first house. Like I really overcame depression.

(04:19):
I have a like I said, I have a podcast
called come Talk that I'm pushing and you know that
whole business side. I have my first show coming in August,
have a lot going on, and I still like push
through my anxiety, and I just really wanted to, you know,
just trying to light on myself. I'm really my own cheerleaders.
Congratulations deserved that. Sam. What's the name of the podcast talk?

(04:39):
My name is dam b Am and my podcast is
come Talk Assist you. Yeah. My Instagram is come talkum
and my personal one is bam Entertainment. Okay, okay, okay,
Damn she come on made me feel It makes me
feel lazy now. But honestly, you need that. I'm glad
that you can celebrate yourself. That's what you need. We

(05:00):
all got to do that. I've been listening to you
forever and you're such an insperation. Like I love the
guys too, but you're staying out and I just love
to see you do your own things. That's just like
you don't understand, like there's a lot of women out
here who really want to do, you know, going the
business for ourselves, have our own platforms. And it's hard,

(05:21):
you know, trying to battle in the men, especially when
you're headstrong and they want to block you, and like,
you know, you want to maintain those great relationships, but
it's so hard. And it's also hard when you have
the women who like love you but don't quite support you.
So it's like it's so much so I just want
to like, I'm so glad that I was able to
get through and you know, not just trying to light
on my celfa also just tell you I love you

(05:42):
and keep doing your things. A word, All right, come talk,
let's do it. Thank you, Koyana. Good morning. Who do
you want to shine a light on? Good morning? I
like to shine the light on. After selling birth, he's
starting a brand new church or want to ask me
til church? And he's doing a free laundry serve day

(06:08):
at a local Detroit landry. Oh oh yeah, that's nice. Yeah,
that's done. Can I get your clothes clean for free. Yeah,
the detergent two to be added up. Yeah, I'll be
having to pray for the de You know how much
we love doing laundry, well you do, yes, I'm always
doing laundry, all right, thank that, yes, Caryana, thank you

(06:30):
so much for Carlin yep. Fine, And of course that
was Shina light out of eight hundred two nine two
fifty one fifty. You can always call and leave a
message also for last word, if you want to shine
a light on somebody. And when we come back, we
have yet. Could you imagine paying somewhere between two and
four million dollars for a pair of sneakers? Well that's
what this is gonna cost. You will tell you all
about it. On Yet On Way Up with Angela yee yo,

(06:52):
she's about to blow the lid abof this part. Let's
get it, angels, come and get the tea. Oh this
yet he is always fun On Way Up with Angela
yee because we got Jasmine from the Jasmine brand. I'm
here and we got my guy Chris Witherspoon here. And
you know him from pop viewers as the CEO one
founder and also from NBC and MSNBC as the entertainment contributor.

(07:14):
Good good okay, experts, Good job Angela. So let's talk
about this. Michael Jordan, his worn Air Jordan thirteen breads
are expected to shatter the record for any sneaker ever
sold at an auction. They believe that these Air Jordan thirteens,
the pair of bread Air Jordan thirteens, will sell anywhere

(07:35):
between two million and four million dollars. Wow, yes, it's
gonna shatter records. They feel like it'll be the highest
selling pair of sneakers at auction. So right now, the
current record is held by Michael Jordan. Of course, Nike
air ship shoes worn by him in nineteen eighty four
that went from one point four seven million dollars. Okay,
So now these and there will be available to bidders

(07:56):
from April third until April eleventh. Are y'all gonna bid?
And no, I'm not, it's not it's not my ministry.
Our kid Dan is showing us a photo of what
you know who with my son like these kids with
Jordan's like who would have thought he put these shoes
out when he did? And then all these decades later,

(08:17):
a whole new generation of young people's obsessed there's a
thumb coming out to you guys next month with Viola
Davis been Affleck's called Air and it's all about how
Jordans changed Nike and like, you know, save them really
real quick. Angelo, what's the most you spent on sneakers
depends on what type of sneakers, now, if they're like
sneaker sneakers or designer sneakers. I don't designer sneakers. I
might have spent over a thousand dollars, okay, sneaker sneakers,

(08:39):
I don't think I would probably spend more than maybe
like two fifty. Okay, all right? Is that fair? Little
nas X has apologized to the trans community. He made
a little jokey joke about transitioning. He posted a picture
of Globe Princess, she's a social media influencer, and he
put the surgery was a success, and then he deleted

(09:01):
it and he said, apologies to the trans community. I
definitely handled that situation with anger instead of considering why
it was not cool. Much love to you guys, Sorry,
because that transitionding joke crossed the line for a lot
of people. Okay, Gold Princess is gorgeous. You gotta be
careful even even if you're a part of the lgbt
Q plus community, because that's part of the tea, you

(09:23):
could still get canceled. Yeah, you gotta be careful. Yeah,
because at first when somebody told him this joke, ate
it or whatever, and he's, you know, and they told
him to apologize to the trans community and material ways
that include money, sharing your platform to raise awareness and
just keep it. They said this is fake as hell,
and he said, girl, eat my oh blah blah blah. Okay,

(09:44):
but then apologize, like how you Bookie filed on nos.
Don't don't respond with anger. That's what you gotta do
when you mess up, that is apologize. Yeah, it's got
to be authentic, like oh sorry, yeah yeah, all right.
Congratulations to Spice. She is pregnant. She's expecting her third child.
She posted on Instagram. Um, God has been so good
to me, So congratulations to her. You know, I love Spice,

(10:06):
you do. And as soon as I saw that, I
was like, Angela, your girl is pregnant. You know that's right?
So yes, God has been so good to her. She
also has two older children with her ex fiance. They
split back in twenty sixteen and most recently she's been
dating Justin budd So And I'd also like to say
she's forty, which is cool because we don't hear about
women that are older, you know, having a child. So beautiful.

(10:30):
I love that. Shout out to Coco Jones. She was
in the hallway walking past just now Jones. Yes, wow,
we just saw She'll be on lip service on Tuesday.
Just that. I put that out there, all right, And
Lindsay Lohan is expecting her first child with her husband.
By the way, yesterday we were talking about this and
I was like, how old is Lindsay Lohan? Right, because
she feels like she should be a lot older than
she's been around. She's been working since she was a kid,

(10:56):
you know, but she's thirty six years old. And she
went on social media and she shared the announcement there.
She said, we are blessed and excited. She posted a
little onesie and she put coming soon. So she got
married last year and they met while she was living
in Dubai. They were dating for a couple of years
very privately, that's how we do things, and then got
engaged in November of twenty twenty one. You see it
Paris Hilton in the comments. But Paris Hilton said, congratulations, love,

(11:19):
so happy for you. Welcome to the mommy club. I'm
happy for so many folks try to kind of count
her out a while ago. Yeah, a lot of being
famous at a young age, I'm sure, and of demons.
And since your brought up Paris Hilton, you know she
got a book coming out. Oh what's it about? Paris
The Memoir, And it looks like she's gonna I've read
some of the spoilers. It seems like she's going to

(11:41):
be talking about a lot in this book. She talked
about a relationship that she had with her teacher when
she was in eighth grade. Okay, but we'll talk more
about that, you know, in the next Yet, we have
about last night when we come back, and that's where
we talk about what we did last night and things
that I'm sure you're gonna be able to relate to
and have fun with it. It's way up with Angela yee.

(12:03):
So about last night night down, Yes, it is way
up with Angela yee. Jasmine Brand is here with me.
Happy to Wednesday, Happy Wednesday, a Wednesday. Chris Witherspoon is
here with me. What's popping Wednesday, y'allad of pop viewers
the app? Okay, you know I have it? Yes, come on,

(12:24):
but j us, yes, so he's our expert on entertainment,
everything entertainment. So it was Jasmine. Yes, he's more TV film, movie. Yeah,
I'm more. I'm more movies, TV, Hollywood. And also just
like I'm great at watching your two dynamic off camera
before the show starts. I'm an expert. I'm watching you. Okay,
But about last night, that's what this is. We're talking

(12:46):
about what we did last night, right, And Chris, speaking
of TV's movies, you were watching Luther. Yes, I watched
this movie with Adris Elba and Cynthia Rivo. You guys,
it was so good and it's on it's on Netflix.
It's number one right now. I don't know, y'all. If
you watch the Oscar nominees, they're not good this year.
This movie right here, it's better than any Oscar nominated,
none of those. So those movies weren't good. And saying

(13:08):
I haven't seen us. Maybe just a Black Panther were
Konda Forever, that's it, But that's not nominated for Best Pictures. Yeah,
the other ones that are nominated. This is so entertaining
and I love seeing a dress and Cynthia, who are
both black and British playing roles you know in London.
It's lots of action, there's a bit of a murder mystery.
Definitely watch y'all. Do you think there's a potential for
it to be nominated for anything next week? That's the problem.

(13:30):
A lot of the things that are on Netflix like
these more like popcorn movies. They don't make the critics
aren't looking at those as contenders. But it doesn't matter.
It's too number one. It's going to open doors for
a Driss and Cynthia Riva threw even more probably for Netflix. Okay,
well last night I was after I did Live Service,
I went home and I have an appearance that I
have to do. I'm the keynote speaker for the annual

(13:50):
Alabama A and M University Celebration of Women Month tea
on the Come On event that's going to be at
noon on Thursday, Marks twenty third. Okay, and they're HBCU
BECU and apparently like it's a Shades of Brown thing,
so I'm like, and I also have to get like
a Kentucky Derby type of hats. Yes, and so I

(14:12):
was actually shopping online. Now, Normally I wait until the
day before to try to find something to wear, you
know how I am. Yes, Angela is a last minute shopper. Yes,
I'm a procrastinator. I run around. So yesterday what I
try to do was go home and be proactive because
I'm excited about this and actually buy some things online.
And then I guess I could return I'm not good

(14:32):
at returning things either, Okay, but I purchase some stuff
and whatever I don't like, if it doesn't fit right,
you know, then I can send it back. So I
have to be more on point with that, Angela. Are
you gonna wear gloves too? Or is it like or
is it just like a hat and like a crown
sort of thing. I didn't think about all that yet.
All right, but I'll show you a couple of the
dresses that I hopefully they'll fit. This is gonna be
so fun. I can't wait to see. But who else

(14:53):
is a procrastinator? Oh? That's all me? Yes, I want
to get better. I need a styleist. That's why I
got to invest than this year. It's like someone to
do this for me, because people can come and pull
that stuff and have it at your house ready to go, right,
and all the money that I'm spending on buying things
and the stress. Yes, took my girl Sammy from Alison Olivia.
She helps me out when I need it, and they
have a sale right now. Perfect. But that is our

(15:15):
about last night. Now when we come back, it's tell
Us a Secret. That's where you guys get to call
and y'all are outrageous, but we love it. You'll entertaining
eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. You get
to call in anonymously and tell us a secret. And
when I tell you you don't need no TV shows.
He's real life is the movie eight hundred two nine

(15:37):
two fifty one fifty. Way up at the Angela Yee.
This is a judgment free zone. Tell us a Secret. Yes,
it is way up with Angela Yee. I'm here with
Jasmine from the Jazzmine brand and Chris Witherspoon, founder and
CEO of Pop Viewers and entertainment contributor for NBC and MSNBC. Ye.
And now we're doing tell Us a Secret. It's all
about you guys telling us a secret. And of course

(15:59):
it's anonymous Now, hello, anonymous caller who's agree? Hi? Hi,
Well is that I'm in saying this guy For the
last three and a half months. Both of us are
going through divorce, but we're have a spects with each
other every two weeks. No relationship, no nothing, Okay, so

(16:21):
you just have a little Cuddyboddy. Yeah, so we love it.
It sounds like that's very therapeutic for you though, right,
it's very therapeutic for we're overall margin, We're fine with it. Okay,
we don't want nothing. We don't want the more relationships.
I'm gonna ask you why every two weeks and not
more than that. It's good because he don't have his

(16:44):
kids on that weekend. And I'm okay, it's a timing thing. Okay.
I don't need to have spects every day. Well, yeah,
both going through a divorce. So enjoy yourself. Okay, you
deserve it. I am congratulating through everything. You just bow
that girl congratulations to us. Yeah. I want to congratulate

(17:04):
everybody out there having good sex. Come on, hello, anonymous caller,
tell us a secret, Hey, Angela, yee. Okay, so I
have to be honest and tell my secrets. So I
put a box in my office and everyone thinks it's HR.

(17:24):
So they're writing all their complaints and I'm getting all
the tea. Girl. People aren't sleeping together, man and juss
having affairs with somebody else. It's so juicy, but I
had to get off. I tell somebody way. So you
put a box there and people are just dropping off
tea in the box? Listen, man, are frustrated. Honey, I'm

(17:45):
not gonna say where I work, but it's a lot
about to put a box out here here? What's the
box call? Did you put an announcement out for the box? No?
If this says if you have a complaint, drop it here,
and they honestly think that they're speaking with HR. And
there's just letting it show. What's the juiciest thing you
read this thus far? Whoa the secretary on her lunch

(18:10):
brease because he's dropping into the manager's office and dropping
off more than just the meal. It really you got
some juice now too. If you ever need to keep
a job, get a promotion. So what are you gonna
do with this information? You know, I'll just like keep
it for a rainy day. Let them try me on

(18:31):
one good day. Oh, such a such over in fifth department,
always going down. I'm just saying I'm not gonna drop. No,
I like her. Oh my goodness. Try all right, thank
you for sharing, Thank you, Bye, Hello, tell us a
secret anonymous color. Yeah, I've been wanting to get this

(18:52):
out of my chest for a little minute. But uh so,
basically I had a say with my wife's and to
her cousin, and then when I got to a sake
to me so I can have a kid because you
know you're not going to stop. I mean, I don't
stop soon what but I definitely ain't trying to get
you none on praises. So that's always I when it
got sick, it's very responsible of you. Have you always

(19:14):
been attracted to your wife's sister, Nah, it was just
that was just the sister was a one time thing,
not a cousin. You are you saying cousin plural like
cousins or cousin like one cousin? Na? Oh yeah he
said cousins cousins, got it? Okay, Okay, do you think
you could be faithful or I mean, yeah, she just
gotta pick up in some places, the wife. Yeah, so

(19:38):
pick up in some places okay, all right, well, thank
you for sharing. Thank you, all right, and out of
miss Carler. Tell us a secret. I know one of
my female friends showed her private partners to my boyfriends.
Who you know? He told me? And so is that
still your friend? Because you said my female friend, she's

(20:00):
so she being mischievous? How long have you been friends
with her or associates with her? Hello? Wel for two years? Okay?
Have you told her that you know that she showed
her parts to your man? No, not kid, but you're
going to if the situation arived. Okay, it's a situation
around I would have to pour to the context of her.

(20:20):
Why did she send that to him? It wasn't a context.
It was a person to person. Oh I thought she
was saying she's Oh no, it wasn't a patriot. What
did he do when it happened? He told us to
love first off from the room. It's what he told me. Okay,
it's fair, okay, all right, well, thank you for sharing.
I know you mad. You sound tight a little ear sady? Yea,

(20:43):
all right, well, thank you for sharing with us, all right,
happy to say, all right, well, that was tell us
a secret. I remember you can always call us eight
hundred two nine fifty one fifty and leave a message
for a last word. And when we come back we
have a Yet we'll be talking about Michael Irving. This
video has been released of its into reaction with a
female hotel employee. Will tell you what it looks like

(21:03):
on Way Up with Angela Yeo from industry Shade to
All the Gossip. Yes, it is Way Up with Angela Hee.
And I'm here with jazzmin Brand Yes. And I'm here
with Chris Witherspoon, Founder and CEO of Pop Viewers, also
entertainment contributor for NBC and MSNBCS. Okay, and we are

(21:27):
here to do yet right now will tell you some
of the biggest entertainment stories Paris. Hilton has a memoir
coming out in Paris. The memoir, she talks about a
lot of different things. Um she talks about an inappropriate
relationship that she had with her eighth grade teacher at
Catholic school. She said that all the girls in the
class were crushing on this handsome young teacher who had

(21:48):
a very Abercrombie look. She said everyone loved him, including
the nuns, and the teacher told her I've got a
crush on you imagine that she's in eighth grade. She said,
he made me feel noticed in an important, grown up way.
He flattered and teased me and said that all the
other girls were talking about me behind my back because
they were jealous. Then the teacher asked for her number
and told her not to tell anyone. He called her

(22:11):
almost every night, she said. We talked for hours about
how amazingly mature, beautiful and intelligent I was, how central,
misunderstood and special. And then one night he asked if
her parents were home, and he came over and there
was a late model suv at the top of the driveway.
She went in the passenger seat and they kissed. But
then she said her parents did drive come home, and

(22:36):
he drove away. He blamed Paris Hilton for his behavior.
She said. He said, my life is over. What am
I doing? Why did you make me do this? Him? Yeah,
so that's you know, her parents came home and saw
them in the driveway. Okay, and he got fired. I
don't know if he got fired. Well, she said that
didn't change the teacher's reputation. I'm not saying he got fired,
but he just kind of blamed her for all of

(22:57):
this even happening, she says, she said she doesn't up there, Yeah,
any other repercussions, but there you go. So there's a
lot that she talks about. She talks about that stupid
girl video that Pink did, and she said that, you know,
she felt judged by that, and she said she does
respect Pink and sees her as brilliant and a great mom.

(23:19):
There's no feud between them, but she also did not,
you know, feel like that was a cool thing to do.
She also talks about her unauthorized sex tape and said
she was coerced into doing it and she was shamed
for it. I forgot about the sex tape you did.
I almost forgot about it. Yeah. I think about simple
life when I think about her, her and Nicole. And
she also discusses her inspiration for talking about her trauma

(23:42):
from boarding school. You know, she said in boarding school
she had all kinds of issues. She said she was
beaten multiple times, digitally raped, verbally harassed by staff and
Moore and she said she saw Demi Levado simply complicated
that documentary and she talked about her difficult past and
they reckoning from that, and she said she was inspired
to talk about her trauma because of that has lived

(24:05):
a scripted series. You guys think she get still one
to act this out. I would watch, but she says
that some good stories too, by the way, Yeah, but
those are the ones we care about. Well, I mean
celebrity story she's going to have in their interactions with
people clubbing, She's had fun, more glamorous things that happened.
She's definitely lived though. Definitely humanizes her though, because I mean,
she went through so much, but also as the daughter

(24:27):
of these billionaires, you would think that things would be
so safe around her, but clearly not all right now,
Michael Irving has released footage of his encounter with a
female hotel employee who accused him of misconduct. Remember this
all happened at Super Bowl weekend Arizona. He wasn't able
to commentate for the game, which I know is difficult
for him. He had a press conference yesterday. He was

(24:49):
joined by his attorneys. He has a one hundred million
dollar lussuit against Marriott, which has moved from federal court
in Texas to an Arizona state court, and he said
he's thankful for the video because without it he doesn't
know where this would have gone. And so you can
see the encounter between him and the hotel employee who's
accusing him, and it doesn't seem very remarkable. And so
she's accused him of, you know, saying inappropriate things and

(25:12):
grabbing her hand and saying does she want a big
black man inside? Da da da da da etc. I
was trying to read the body said he said that. Yeah. Yeah,
I was trying to read the body language and you know,
trying to guess what was going on, and it didn't
seem it didn't it didn't measure up to what I
was thinking. What's gonna happen on that video? Well, Michael

(25:34):
Irvan does have a lawsuit now that names four hotel
employees in addition to the Marriott, So we shall see.
But they do have that video footage. Okay, all right,
Well that is your yet and when we come back,
we have under the radar. These are the stories that
are not necessarily headline news, but we should know about
them under the radar. Way up with the Angela Yee
under the radar. Yes, it is way up with Angela Yee.

(25:57):
I'm Angela Yee and I have Jasmine from the Jasmine
brand here with me, also my guy Chris Witherspoon, the
founder and CEO of Pop Viewers. I'm having so much
fun right now. We're having fun with you, and now
we're doing under the radar. These are under the radar
stories that are not necessarily headline stories. Now, first we
want to talk about Russim Carter. He's a black man
from Mississippi. He went missing late last year. He had

(26:19):
already said that he was being targeted by white men
in his community, and he was then found dead, and
not just dead, but dead with his head severed from
his body, according to an independent autopsy that was recently released. Now,
Rushim Carter's family is calling for a federal probe into
his death. The police explained that there was no foul play. Now,

(26:41):
how is there no foul play? When this man's head
was severed from his body, his spinal cord was recovered
in an area separate from his head, according to attorney
Ben Crump, and some of his body parts are still missing.
This is awful as well. This was not a natural killing,
Attorney Ban Crump said during a conference. This was not
a natural death. This represents a young man who was

(27:04):
killed and he had said that they were after him,
and so for some reason he went to the police.
He told them, and they didn't do anything about it. Yeah,
and how can the sheriff say that there's no reason
to believe foul play was involved when he was his
head was severed from his body, Like, that's not that's

(27:26):
just crazy. And it also was Mississippi, like you just
all automatically think of the worst in Mississippi. Well, days
before he was reported missing, he had discussed with his
mother his concerns for his safety. There was text messages
between the two of them. He also specified in a
name in the text message that he felt threatened by
and he said, if anything happens, he's responsible for it.
He got these guys wanting to kill me, and his

(27:49):
mother actually read those text messages. During the press conference,
she said her son told her it was three truckloads
of white guys trying to kill him, and at the
time he told her older that he had to think fast.
So she told him to go to the police station
because she felt like they would serve and protect. That's
what they're supposed to do, right, that's their job, and

(28:09):
they did not do that. So we're still hoping that
the family can at least get some justice. But what
a tragic, awful, awful way to see your child, or
your family member or a friend of yours parents for
his mom. Because the visuals, you, guys, if you go
online look at the photos. I can't the skull. It's
just too crazy to look at it. It's insane that

(28:29):
things like this are still happening, and that the police
department could say there's no foul play. How can you
even describe Mississippi? Y'all? All right, all right now. Joe
Biden made his first appearance on the Daily Show since
taking office, and he was talking to cow Penn, and
this was interesting because he talked about his own experiences

(28:50):
and how he evolved into supporting same sex marriage. I
can remember exactly or maya epiphany one. Okay, I was
a senior in high school and my dad was dropping
me off. I remember about to get out of the
car and it looked to my right and two well
dressed man in suits kissed each other, and I never

(29:10):
forgot to turn and look to my dad. It's a Joey.
It's simple. They love each other. It doesn't matter whether
it's same sex or a heterosexual couple. You should be
able to be married. What is the problem. That's a
very forward thinking for that time. Chris doesn't believe it.
You know, no other teen I got my calcol leader,
I was doing the math. He was eighteen. That was
nineteen sixty one. So I'm just trying to picture in Delaware,

(29:32):
two men and it's in nineteen sixty one having the
courage and broad daylight right to do give a little
smooch in the pack. That's very progressive. But props to
his father if that really did happen, right, having that
sort of mindset really to feel like I feel like
you're saying the math and math and in terms of
the year, is that what we know. I'm just saying
that that time period, right, you didn't see men. There
were still laws, the outlaw of public you know, displays

(29:55):
of affection in many parts of the country, So you
didn't see a lot of same sex couples being dad
to be so progressive. Amazing, that's amazing. And Joe Biden
did make history as the Vice president in twenty twelve
when he announced his support the same sex marriage before
the Obama administration had a chance to sign up. He
was one of the most prominent politicians to stand for
LGBTQ plus rights at the time. Um so yes, it

(30:18):
was later legalized nationwide. And you know a lot of
our rights are in jeopardy right now. Yep, no, it's
so true. So thank god he's Tony's kind of stories.
All right, Well, that is your under the radar. Now
when we come back, we do have the Way Up
Mix at the top of the hour. Plus today is Wednesday,
so what's wealth Wednesdays, And we'll have Karen Kahn, who
is the founder of I Fund Women that's a fundraising platform.

(30:38):
And also Odessa Jenkins, she founded her own national Football
League for women after seeing all the disparities. Okay, it's
the way up with Angela Yee. She's like to talk
like they a Angelie Jean. They Angela Yee. She's spilling
it all this Yet Yes, it is way up with

(30:59):
Anne de la Yee and it's time for YETM here
with Jasmine from the Jasmine Brand. Here also Chris Witherspoon,
founder of Pop Viewers and CEO Tech Company. We're going
to talk more about that later so people know what
it is. Yes, and right now, let's discuss what's happening
around the world. Why Clef was in the hospital now,
we saw this break while we were up here, that

(31:21):
he was being wheeled into the hospital, that it was
getting some type of care. He started to feel numbness
on the right side of his face, and he was
sent to the er and they did some tests and
it turns out that it was stress related exhaustion. Gotta
take care of yourself, right, he wrote in his post.
Sometimes we forget that our body is a tempo will

(31:41):
be I'll be back soon, Okay, I'm glad to do it.
I'm glad he went to the doctor, to the hospital.
I think it's smart because also a lot of young
men and women are having strokes these days. So if
you feel a little, the slightest bit of numbness, listen
to your yeah, every little you know. And like I
was saying the other day, I was talking about other
things like going to the dentist and anything in your
body that goes wrong, you got to take care of it.

(32:03):
Like the sooner the better face it. It's not gonna
go anywhere. That's so true, all right, And a rest
in piece to Bobby Caldwell. He passed away. He was
seventy one years old now. Bobby Caldwell is best known
for his hit back in nineteen seventy eight, By the Way.
This song is still rocking today. What you won't do
for love? What you won't do you try tothing you? Hey,

(32:43):
that's about whatever. Everyone in the studio closed their eyes.
Come on, Angela led the song. Everybody is that right
to see? Y'all couldn't tell me he ain't black. I know,
you know. I did not know that either. I think
I found out on Instagram, maybe like last the autopsy
to show me. But he did pass away. His wife

(33:05):
announced it on Twitter after suffering from floxing and that
is I can't pronounce all this but floral quinolan toxicity syndrome.
It was a side effect of these antibiotics, she said.
I held him tight in my arms as he left us.
I am forever heartbroken. Thanks to all of you for
your many prayers over the years. But yes, so resc

(33:27):
in peace against Bobby called Well, Yes and his family
mid show like what happened? Right? Yes. He released sixteen
albums over the course of more than thirty five years,
by the way, and he's credited with writing and performing
songs for several film and TV projects, including Bamboozle by
Spike Lee, Donnie Brasco Notorious. He also composed um for

(33:48):
the nineteen eighty five TV movie Joanna, and he made
a guest acting appearance on a nineteen eighty five episode
of Sarah. I saw a lot of people saying recupeace, Jazzy,
Jeff Chance, the Rapper, Holly Robinson heat. A lot of
people were mourning him on social media. Okay, all right now,
Wan Dixon from Real Housewives of Potomac, he is out

(34:08):
as a cop and state coach after a nine and
twenty three season that also featured a lawsuit that was
filed against the school. So we saw all of this happening.
He was there for six seasons. That's a long time, yes,
And we've been watching him on Real Housewives too. I
wonder how that is like at the school when everybody
knows you also from that I know from that role.
But yeah, all right, And speaking of being out, John

(34:31):
Morant is likely out for the season. According to Report Sheet,
he is in the midst of seeking help and this
is all stemming from a few different issues, one of
them most recently being that he flashed a gun while
on Instagram Live. He is apologized for his actions and
he is seeking counseling services in Florida. The extent of
the counseling is simply unknown, but according to reports, they're

(34:54):
suggesting that there's some very personal matters that should be
kept under wraps and it will most likely the end
of the season for him. Okay, at the end of
his story, he's so talented. No, I think he'll be back. Yeah,
And you know, you gotta handle things when they happen,
just like we said with your body. We don't know
what's going on with him, you know, personally, right, you
gotta nipped in the bus. It's the case of counsel
not cancel in your opinion, Yeah, it's a full and

(35:17):
mental health equally important, okay slogan, and Rick Ross has
been presented is presenting Miami High School students with Rolling
Loud scholarships. They're giving eight Miami High School students scholarships
totaling ten thousand dollars. So that's pretty nice to see
Rick Ross being involved in that too. One of the
students who got one of the scholarships said Ross being
an alumni and then coming back and giving back it's

(35:37):
something that everyone should do once they go off and
do something successful. Okay, all right, and that is your
Yet we had to end it on a high note. Yeah,
And it's also Women's History Months, so when we come back,
we're going to be celebrating some amazing women that deserve
our recognition. There's so many, so it's always hard to
pick in twos who we want to do. But it's
Women's History Months. Sell me, Jasmine Brand and Chris Witherspoon,

(35:58):
we'll be back. It's way up with Angela Yee. When
do you ask what you bring to the table, tell
them you brought the table. Do you up with Angela
Yee celebrating the ladies doing Women's History Month? Yes, it
is way up with Angela Yee and I'm Angela Ye.
Jasmine Brand is here, Yeah, Chris Witherspoon is here also
Happy Wednesday, all founder and CEO of Pop Viewers entertainment

(36:19):
expert as well as Jasmine Brand who was also an
entertainment expert. And it is a women's history month, okay,
and we want to celebrate some amazing women every day
we're doing this and I want to continue this. You know,
just what we like to do. Yeah, it's the whole year,
all right, And so why don't we start with you, Chris.
I know there's somebody that you really wanted to honor
who is a friend of yours. Also, I wanted to
shout out Janet Hubert. You guys might know her. She's

(36:41):
the original Aunt viv from the Fresh Penci bel Air.
She's a good friend of mine, someone who's become like
a mentor of mine and a true aunt in real
life to me. But she's just also a part of
women's history. She was in the original cast of Cats,
and she her character that she created, Vivian Banks, is
the only TV mom be played by three actresses. So
after she left Fresh, Prince Daphne Reid and then now

(37:02):
on Bellair Cassandra Freeman is killing it. But it's just
an incredible person. She's she's broken so many glass ceilings
in Hollywood and is still doing so. And she's from Chicago, yes,
shout town. All right. Well, here's some other people that
we want to honor. Grace Hopper, all right. She not

(37:22):
only designed Harvard's Mark one computer in nineteen forty four,
but she also invented the compiler. It's a device that
translates written language into computer coding. She's all right. She
also coined the terms bug and debugging. Oh interesting, And
she was a rare admiral in the navy Ye and
then doctor Shirley Jackson. She's a more modern day female inventor.

(37:46):
She made history as the first black woman to graduate
with a PhD from MIT in nineteen seventy three. She
then started to work at Bell Laboratories. She completed research
that led to such creations like solar cells, fiber optic cables,
horrible fax machines, touchtown telephones, call her ID and call waiting.
I wonder if she had an emergency breakthroughs A member

(38:07):
those Oh I remember those? I know a black woman
created caller ID exactly and call waiting. What would we
do without call waiting or call her ID? So my
stalk sometimes you sometimes you be the stalker who she
knows too much? This one who you're talking? All right?
And Jasmine, you have one too? Oh? This one? Okay? Sorry, Uh,

(38:30):
let's do Marie van Britton Brown she was an American nurse,
and she was concerned about the safety when she was
home alone at odd hours of the night. The crime
rate and her nick She's for Queens. The crime rate
had been increasing and the police response time was slow,
so she realized that she would feel less vulnerable if
she could see who was at the door without opening.

(38:51):
Working with her husband, they created a system of four
peep holes and a movable camera that connected wirelessly to
a monitor in their room. A two way microphone allowed
conversation with someone outside, and buttons could sound an alarm
or remotely unlock the door. So she received a patent
for the security in nineteen sixty nine, and she received
an award from the National Science Committee for her innovative idea.

(39:15):
The idea became groundwork for all modern home security systems.
What will we do it at security cameras? That's so
so important? Yeah, not doing that the sixties though, that's crazy.
We were looking at um. You were right, Jasmine, what's
going on? It was some special Listen listen. When I
was talking about this, the mic was sliding down on me,

(39:36):
and I'm like holding some mic like dentist, I don't
get it, lip service, nus take a much your breath.
So it was saying my breath smells so bad that
the mic was like trying to slide away from me,
you are so rude. Everybody looked like, humh, it was hot.

(39:57):
She did tell me, though, I will say, Jasmine did
tell me if my breath every stings, please let me know. No,
I was just being funny, all right, because I guess
I said it's some mel stings. Let her know. Yes,
I didn't. I did. That's a good friend. That's a
good friend. I told her. Yes, I don't know how
you do that. But I said, Angela, if something ever smells,
you need to tell me, like I'm your friend, and
you figure out how to tell me. Because we were

(40:19):
talking about someone else and I said, angel don't ever
don't do me like that, like I need to hear
this offline whoever the one that said it? Someone else
said someone elbody had an odor? Okay, and so we
like al Yes, Angel and I were discussing it. I
was saying Angela, like, yo, we're really good friends. You
really need to tell me, like you figure. I don't
know how you're gonna tell me, but you tell me.
I want to know. That's one of the little straight

(40:40):
up I'm gonna tell you this. You don't mince words
with that. Yeah, no, let me know. She said, you
tell me too, I said, okay, send me your text message.
Well I've on't air let me know. All right, Well,
everybody's good in here. Just to put it out there.
I know you're not in the room with us, but
for everybody listening. Okay, if you're a good friend and
you feel like you need to turn to the person

(41:00):
next to you, it's a neighbor, let them know. Now
is the time while you're listening the way up with Angela. Ye, okay,
all right, Well it is Wednesday, so you know that
means we do Wealth Wednesday, and thank you guys for
that for Women's History Month. And we're going to keep
this vibe going because we do have for Wealth Wednesday.
Karen Khan, who is the founder of I Fund Women.
I actually met her way earlier when she was just

(41:22):
starting and since then they've given like literally hundreds of
millions of dollars worth of grants and help women raise
that money for their businesses. No matter what points you
are in your business, I Fund Women can help you
get together a marketing plan. She'll explain it more. Also
Adsted Jenkins, who is the founder of the Women's National
Football Conference and she's an athlete clearly, and so she

(41:44):
was just seeing the disparity in what she was getting
as a woman who plays tackle football and what the
men were getting. And so she'll talk about that and
she's used iFund women. So the two of them together
have a great story and it's very helpful for you.
All Right, it's way up with Angela ye Wealth Wednesday.
You rather way up? Ye, Yes, it is way up

(42:07):
with Angela Yee And I'm here and Jasmine Brand is
here and Chris Witherspoon is here. She's been co hosting
yesterday and today, which we appreciate. Now, Chris, we know
you from you know you're insightful reporting on NBC, on MSNBC.
We've seen you on Wendy Williams Show. We've seen you
in a lot of different spaces, Fandango, the Grio, and

(42:29):
now we want to talk about pop Viewers, which is
your baby. Yes, So for people listening, can you explain
what pop Viewers is? Yea? So pop yours is a
platform that really helps people discover new content. So you know,
you open up Netflix or who they're telling you to
watch just there. We're about across all platforms, thing the
in theaters and more, importantly, you can really react to
what you're watching, give a rating, giving giving a review.

(42:50):
We find that people they connect to humans better than
they do actual critics. Like, for example, you've talked about
Luther yesterday, and I had heard about the new Luther
movie from every which where I saw different reviews. I
went and watched it because a word of mouth. I
watched it last night and it was amazing. And by
the way, right now it has a score on Rotten
Tomamos at sixty seven percent. That's not a good score critics,
but it's a good movie number one on Netflix. So

(43:12):
we're really about democratizing sort of the critic process and
letting people have a seat at the table when it
comes to how we talk about a show where a
film based on real people's sentiment. Okay, and Jess, people
know your background right well qualifies you come on? Okay.
So you know, I worked at the Grio for many
years entertainment editor. And you know, when I was working
at the Grio, I really saw how there were these

(43:34):
micro conversations happening on Twitter around TV shows and movies
that weren't really critically acclaimed work, but they were having
macro effects in the newsroom. I saw how movies that
were from Will Packer or Kevin Hart were these small
budget films, but they were over indexing at the box office.
And I wanted to help be able to explain that
story and kind of bridge the phenomenon around how black

(43:54):
and brown communities engage around content in different ways. But
there's so much power there. So I went on to
work seeing them as an analyst. I worked for Fandango
and Rotten Tomatoes, and that was where I was interviewing
two stars when I was working for Rotten Tomatoes and
they will remain nameless, but two A List stars that
shaded Rotten Tomatoes, and they were saying, how it's there's
such a problem with that score from the critics, and

(44:16):
I talked to them like a viewer would, and I said,
I'm doing this on behalf of the viewers. So I
walked out of that room and I said, I want
to create a startup. And it was a struggle. It
was difficult to you guys getting the seed funding. As
we talked about, you had no funding when you first
started your company, Jasmine. It is hard out here. I
drove lyft for a minute two years ago and this
is full circle, you guys, because I actually would play

(44:38):
this radio station. I would listen to you Angela on
the radio while I am driving in my car two
years ago, bootstrapping the funds for this company. Because I
didn't have a mom I could call off for no
no coins or not want tea. You know. I love that.
And Chris, we love you being up here. That's where
I was like, he got to come back, and I
want to make sure we always continue to highlight you
and pop viewers. Okay, and post can download us today
in the app Lip store. All right, what we do

(45:00):
have asked? Ye coming up? Eight hundred two nine two
fifty one fifty is a number if you have any questions.
And we also have Wealth Wednesday on the way. It's
way up with Angela Ye, Angela Yee is way up now. Oh,
it's a way up with Angela Ye. I'm Angela ye.
And Jasmine Brand is here yes, And we were having
an amazing conversation without the mics on, so I know

(45:21):
this is going to be even more fun now that
we're talking about um. Karen Kahn is here. Hello, Hello,
and you're the founder of I Fund Women. Yes, ma'am,
all right, and Odessa Jenkins is here also and Odessa
Jenkins hold on, I want to say this wrong? Is
um the founder of the Women's National Football Conference YEAC. Now, Karen,
I want to talk to you about I fund women

(45:41):
because we've spoken before. We did some things together with
Stacy Tisdale, my partner, and well the Wednesday Tale you
love her and so it's still an issue. Right it
is Women's History Month, but this is an ongoing issue
that has never been erectified, but for women. When it
comes to the VENTA Capital we were just talking about that.
What is the percentage of what we get and from

(46:02):
black women it's even lower. So can you discuss the
disparity with that? Absolutely? And I hate being like the
Debbi Downer of the of the funding world, but the
numbers don't lie. So women as a collective we receive
around two percent of venture funding dollars, So ninety eight
percent of VC dollars and that's about three hundred billion
a year in the US alone go to men, and

(46:25):
female founders of color get point three two percent. Yeah, yeah,
point three percent. The numbers are disgusting. Why is that?
Is it? Because it's mostly white men and they see
somebody that's like them and they're giving it to each other.
That you pretty much summed it up. Yeah, I mean
the disparities around funding are not just relegated to venture capitalists,
but yes, So in order to raise VC, you have

(46:48):
to have what's called founder pedigree. Founder pedigree encompasses three things.
One you have to have made money for the firm before.
Number two, you need to be an engineer or a
head product person at a fang company. So for like Facebook, Apple, Netflix, Google,
it's sort of antiquated, but you've got to be an
engineer or product person at one of these massive unicorn

(47:10):
companies that have had major outcomes. Or you have to
be friends at play golf with the buddies at the front.
Because it's it's it's even more extreme than that. Most
of these founders that are getting funding ninety percent of
them plus are white males from three different schools right

(47:32):
their IVY League. It's like Harvard, Yale at Stanford. So
it's out again and right. So as as when Karen
starts talking about these things and you think you're thinking
about where you're going to raise your capital as an entrepreneur,
you start eliminating yourself and you need other ways to
find funding. There's no way that what has traditionally happened

(47:53):
is going to work for us and for you. Karen,
can you talk about how you even started? I fund
women because this is all came from some and they
didn't work out for you. Absolutely. So I was a
female founder who could not raise funding, period. So I
found Women's my second startup. My first startup failed because
we couldn't raise funding. I was born and raised at Google.
I was there for ten years. You know, it was

(48:15):
extraordinarily successful, and I had access to venture capitalists just
through the connections and through this color skin, the white
skin privilege. I had access right so I could get
into the room where it happened. But because of founder
pedigree and the algorithms in their heads and actually on
paper of who they're going to fund, it didn't matter

(48:37):
that I worked at Google for ten years and had
a connection to such and such and got into the room.
They were not going to fund my business. So I
thought to myself, truly, if it is this hard for
me to raise venture capital, and I am very privileged,
how hard must it be for the eighty nine percent
of women entrepreneurs in this country, who are women of

(48:58):
color entrepreneurs? Right? And I said, right then and there,
I'm like, we're pivoting, We're shutting down the first business.
We're starting a funding platform. Again. It's both Wednesdays, and
we are speaking to Karen Kahn, the founder of I
Fund Women, and Odessa Jenkins, who is the founder of
the Women's National Football Conference. All right, and then Odessa,
let's us switch over to YouTube for a second. Because

(49:19):
you played football all kinds of accolades, right, and I
saw you said in the first seven years you didn't
even have a new helmet correct and playing. So can
you just discuss like your career, your upbringing, and then
what made you decide that you needed to start your
own Absolutely so, I'm an athlete. If you were the
only girl on the team, it was harder for you.
You couldn't go into the locker room. That's just the

(49:40):
way it was. I end up playing Division one basketball
and then playing football, and there wasn't a place for me.
There wasn't a place for me to think about making
a living wage to play football. And I wanted to
change that. And so in twenty seventeen, I got recruited
into the NFL through the Bill Wash Diversity Internship. I
was in technology at the time as well. Also, it
was like this great parallel path where I was an

(50:03):
outlier both in the world of technology and enterprise and
in the world of sport. So I was starting to
see like, wait a minute, there's no opportunities for people
like me. Women can't make a living wage playing tackle football.
Why is that right? And so when I had my
I left the NFL and thought, I want to create
this for women. And so when I left, I was
also exiting my first tech company, a someone who had

(50:25):
raised capital and we had gone through the process, and
so I got to twenty nineteen and I was like,
wait a minute, I'm going to create a business that
supports the business of sport for women in football. And
that's how the w NFC was born. That's actually how
I found that, which is wild, which is wild. So
tell me about that experience of you two connecting with

(50:46):
I Fund Women and a WNFC. Yeah, so when I
finished exiting the business, and it's so wild that you
asked Karen the question about women raising capital because I
didn't even think about going VC route. Why is that
I didn't see it? Then? You met Karen. So then
I met Karen, and I was I actually went looking
for iPhone women, so I went looking for alternative ways
to raise capital. When I found I Fund Women, I

(51:08):
was like, Wow, this money is free. I was a
little skeptical to be I was like, so I went
to the platform and it's like, what do you want
to do? I filled out the universal grant form. I
started to receive grants. My friends started receiving grants. Off top,
I started my crowdfunder. The reason we started the crowdfunder
was for production, and I didn't even know about the

(51:30):
grants and they just started pouring in. Because capital is
definitely one of the things that is the biggest obstacle,
it might be the biggest obstacle when it comes to
being successful as an entrepreneur, and it's a it's a
it's a shock as an entrepreneur to get onto a
platform like I Fund Women crowdfunds, see your friends and
family start to come in. But businesses like Adidas gave

(51:52):
us a grant. American Express chose me as one of
the one hundred for one hundred entrepreneurs and gave my business.
And then Johnny Walker gave us a big giant check
in Brooklyn here. So it's just like all of that
happened through being a part of the I Fund Women
platform and Karen with I Fund Women. It's not just
funding that you give, right, It's not just the funding platform.

(52:13):
Can you talk about the other services that are available
on that platform that you saw a need for. When
we started the platform, it was just crowdfunding, right. We
were like, Okay, what's the fastest way to cash, which
is working capital for your business. We can't wait for loans,
we ain't getting VC. We need it fast, so cash
is fast. So crowdfunding was the first thing we did,

(52:33):
and we realized that our beta customers didn't have to crowdfund.
I think most people think that when they put up
a crowdfunder that if you build it, if you put
it up, they will come. This like is not field
of dreams. It's sales and marketing. Truly. You are raising
small increments of money from lots of people that you
know that add up to just enough to get your

(52:54):
business off the ground or get a new product launch
or whatever it is. So we started to teach people
through our Slack unity how to do it right. So
people would start asking questions about how do I track this?
How do I know where my traffics coming from? And
I would be like, oh, just put your Google Analytics
code into your page. And they'll be like, you're speaking
another language and what do you mean? So I would
jump on a zoom with them screenshare, set up the

(53:15):
Google Analytics for them, and it would It's the business
gift of a lifetime, like teaching people like, oh, here's
where my traffics coming from, how can I think about marketing?
So on and so forth. So from there was born
our coaching program. So where we started teaching people about crowdfunding,
we were really teaching them about how to build a
business and how to sell and market their products. So

(53:37):
our coaching program is an award winning program that works
to make women money. All right, we are here Ray
Karen Khan, founder of I Fund Women in Odessa Jenkins,
founder of the Women's National Football Conference. It's both Wednesdays.
We'll be right back on way up with the ante
la yee kind of dream of wealthy and I don't
mind sharing my wealth dog. Can you straight financially, mental

(54:00):
and physically? This is wealth Wednesday on way up with ANGELA, Ye,
what's up guys. It's a Wednesday. I'm feeling good. Jasmine
Brand is here with me. It's Wealth Wednesday and we
are talking to Karen Khan, who is the founder of
iFund Women. So if you have a business you're trying
to start, she can help. Also Adessa Jenkins, who is
the founder of the Women's National Football Conference. Jasmine, you

(54:21):
have a question. Twelve years ago, I started the jazz
and brand with no plan, no money. Had I known
about I fund Women, I think I could have been
further along. What do you think is the biggest misconception
about crowdfunding. There's a bunch of misconceptions. One is that
it's easy. Many people think it's easy. I do it
sounds very hard to me. You think all your friends
are gonna support, You think all your family's automatically gonna support.

(54:43):
You think they'll spread the word. Yeah, and when you
become an entrepreneur you find out it can be a
work place. To me, it's like the quickest post that
you click passes that one that says if all my
followers gave me a dollar, you'd be like, And I
think that a lot of people have crowdfunding shame, which
leads to the misconception if they eventually want to raise
venture capital or go and get a bank loan, it

(55:04):
almost like delegitimizes them, when it's actually the opposite. So
my phone rings off the hook with seed stage venture
capital firms who are the hot founders. Who's crushing it
because they know we're getting the earliest stage entrepreneurs. And
so just wrapping up the answer to your question that
if you're listening to this and thinking about crowdfunding and

(55:25):
you're worried about the perception, people are going to think
you're like not a real business, or you're asking for charity.
It is not like that. Vcs venture capitalists want to
see that you've busted your butt and that you can
get an audience and you can get people behind your
product or service, and crowdfunding is literally just selling your
product or service. And when Karen talks about the idea
that friends and family round goes first, that's normal. And

(55:49):
I think if people like you knew more that the
first step is the friends and family round, then you
get a seed round, then you get a series ABCD,
A lot of us don't know that. Yeah I didn't
know that, but it's a part of the process. An
iPhone women helps you start and that's tarry too because
like for me with my companies, you know, I haven't
gotten invest theirs yet I went to which is outrageous,

(56:09):
which is it sucks using your own money all the time.
But sometimes people think when you make money and you
have money, why are you raising money? That's what always
thought too for women exactly right, Like you know, if
someone is watching and listening and they they've been in
business five years, is it good for them the company
wall or should they come at the very beginning. When
is the best time or is it anytime? Anytime? It's

(56:30):
really anytime. Of course when you were just starting out
as you said, it was twelve years ago. Yeah, so
if we had Jasmine right out the gate, of course,
like it's better when you you know, to get it
early early. Yes, But we have entrepreneurs that have come
to us, whether it's through COVID to keep their doors open.
We had brick and mortars that have been out for

(56:53):
twenty years and COVID hits and they've got a crisis crowdfund.
So people are at all different stages. Again, it's both
Wednesdays and we are speaking to Karen Khan, the founder
of I Fund Women, and Odessa Jenkins, who was the
founder of the Women's National Football Conference. Now, I Fund
women of color since we were talking about that, and

(57:13):
the more we have way more obstacles to so can
we talk about I fund women of color than necessity
for that. So when I started the business six years ago,
right out of the gate, seventy five percent of our
customers were and continue to be women of color entrepreneurs. Okay,
twenty two percent self identified as Caucasian. So I'm watching

(57:36):
this thing and I know right out the gate, I'm like, oh,
I know what's gonna I can see the future, and
I don't like how it looks. I know that the
twenty two percent of white women are going to raise
the vast majority of capital. So a year goes by
twenty seventeen was our first year of really running the business.
Twenty eighteen goes by. After twenty eighteen, eighty percent of

(57:59):
the capital is being raised by the twenty percent of
white women. And we launched it at the Women's March
in twenty twenty and since then we have taken the
cumulative funding volume over the five years of I Fund Women.
In the first year of running ifon Women of Color,
we took the cumulative funding volume and brought it to parody.
Oh wow, that's great. So and you know, women of

(58:21):
color are not a monolith. We know there's all kinds
of diversity within there. But it was a that's staggering
to hear what it was like eighty that they were
getting the twenty two percent were getting eighty percent correct
on the platform. It's the reality. It's fundraising in every
way and if you aren't intentional about creating spaces for us,
that is what will happen. Thank you both for joining us,

(58:44):
Karen Khan again the founder for I Fund Women and
Odessa Jenkins, the founder of the Women's National Football Conference.
And how can people find both of you? Go to
Ifundwomen dot com and get started. We are there for
it on an I Fund Women on all the socials. Yes,
and you can find me at Odessa Jenkins dot com
or follow the w NC. Please follow our fun women
because when you follow them, you follow women. So do

(59:06):
that all right? Again, it is a wealth Wednesday. Thank
you to Karen Connor Nodessa Jenkins. And when we come back,
we have asked ye eight hundred two nine two fifty
one fifty is a number. You know. We love to
hear your questions and help you out. It's way up
with Angela. Ye. Everybody like women's relationship or career advice.
Angela's dropping facts. This is ask ye. Yes, it is

(59:27):
way up with Angela. Yee. And you know what time
it is, It's time to ask ye. I'm here, Jasmine
Brand is here, Chris Witherspoon is here. Any question you have,
we are here to help. Eight hundred two nine two
fifty one fifty is a number. Hello anonymous caller. Hey,
what's up? Ye with Jasmine? Hello? What's your question? My
question is, so, currently I'm single, but I'm open to dating.

(59:51):
The only issue is that I can't afford a girlfriend.
At the moment um. I do feel like they're another
addition to the expenses. So I'm just trying to get
it FICCE on that. Okay, So what can you like
When you say you can't afford, you mean like you
can't afford to buy gifts or even take somebody to
dinner to a certain extent when it comes to things

(01:00:15):
like that, just overall, long term, I don't think i'd
be able to keep up with the expenses of having
a partner, you know, I do want to say though,
being in a relationship is not supposed to feel like
a burden. Yeah, supposed to be cheaper than being a relationship, right.
I understand that from a man's point of view, because
there's a lot of women that expect that men are
going to pay for everything. So I see what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, Like,

(01:00:38):
for example, it's like a date. You know, you're kind
of expected to pay for dinner on the first date,
which is like another question in itself. Well, this is
when it's time to be creative though. I do want
to say that, because women love creativity and we love honesty, right,
So if you can come up with a creative date,
and then you can also be honest, like what city

(01:00:58):
do you live in? New York? Okay, so you live
in New York. Whether it's about to get nicer hopefully,
even though I know it's known recently, But if you
can plan to like put together a male a date
this outdoors, something that's not there's so many nice places
that you can go here that maybe somebody hasn't discovered yet.
And also pieces cheap museums. You know, there's certain days

(01:01:19):
that you can go to the museum for free, or
you can get all kinds of like coupons and things
like that where you can go places that will be
less expensive. And then I think it's important you have
a good time and you can go up with somebody
and let them know, Look, I'm working on this, you know, financially,
because we do love. I think as a woman, I
can say I admire people who a can be creative

(01:01:41):
and be have a plan in our ambitious and are honest.
And so if you can embody those things and own it.
Because I also feel like confidence is a big deal.
And so if you're confident in yourself and you can
be an amazing listener, and we can see the potential
in you, even though they'll tell you don't date potential.
But if somebody is being honest with you and also
coming up with things to make up for the fact

(01:02:04):
that I can't afford to take you to this to
Tatiana's or the Brooklyn Top House. But you know, I
can make this meal and bring you out and we
can go sit outside, you know, along whatever park and
eat and talk and make you fall in love. That way,
that's the type of person you want anyway, somebody who's
not into the material things and what can you do
for me? Yeah, definitely, you know. So I just want

(01:02:28):
to advise that I don't think everything's about money. I
understand your reservation, so I don't want to make it
seem like it's not a big deal, right because guys
do feel like I have to be financially in a
position to date. But I feel like you can be honest. Yeah,
and you know, are you what are you working on? Like,
are you working towards getting yourself together financially? Oh? Yeah?

(01:02:48):
So shaky only because um so I do live on
my own, so everything, all my expenses I take care of.
I'm only working one job. I don't but the side
gig or anything like that which a woman will appreciate. Yeah, look,
you got your own place, ye you know some people
don't even have that right. So, but I do feel like,

(01:03:12):
you know, have a plan for yourself because the confidence
is confidence is going to come from you feeling more
secure financially and more stable financially. But that doesn't mean
that you can't go out and look at it as
a friendship too, Like if you're going out with women.
You should always date somebody you can be friends with
and who you can be honest with and who will
be supportive of you. Right, so you can still go out,
you can still make friends with people that doesn't have

(01:03:33):
to be your girlfriend right away. Yeah, definitely, it's not
always about impressing her buzz thing like you're and if
somebody could be with you at the time when you're
at your low financially, that's a keeper. Yep. Yeah, that's
that's exactly what I'm like, you know, hoping for in
the long run or you know, all right, well, yeah,
don't count don't count us out yet, you can still

(01:03:54):
go out. Just be good luck, all right, good, thank
you so much. All right, Well that was asky And
again eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty is
a number you can call us up any time. We
are here to help. And when we come back, it's
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that maybe you couldn't get through. Maybe you want to

(01:04:16):
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Up with Angela. Yee. Jasmine Brand is here, Chris Witherspoon here,
and I enjoyed y'all today. I feel like the show

(01:04:36):
flew by. It did, it went by super fast. That's
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two days that flown by being with you, cannot just
say it with such an honor and just the energy
that both you bring to the day, to my life,
I cannot even compare to anything else. And we've all
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(01:04:57):
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(01:05:18):
I wanted to when I created Way Up with Angela.
I wanted to make sure that it really involves the
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I Fund Women also for coming by, Todessa Jenkins for
coming by and giving us really valuable, tangible, useful information.
I learned a lot. Yeah, it's Women's History month, you know,
so we always want to make sure we get in
that funding right, you know. Shout out to pop viewers

(01:05:40):
Chris Witherspoon's company. He is a founder and CEO of
a tech company that also deals with entertainment. That is
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guys just that app please please, and thank you both
of y'all. You are part of women's history as well.
Both of you are trailblazers and I'm just honored to
know you and to be inspired by your work. Thank you, Chris,
you know the right things to say, especially since Angela

(01:06:02):
is the Oprah one free of radio. This is this
is winfree radio thing. But I stand in that you
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And thank you to everybody that's been watching the interviews,
leaving comment show and support. You know, this is a
big deal. It is we're trying to make history, baby,

(01:06:24):
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and so you guys can call us up. Eight hundred
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did was make sure that we always have the voicemail
turned on during the show, which they don't do up
here right and after the show. But I want to
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Who these voicemails anymore? We do, we do, we do
call all right, yes, so call us up and here
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was going through some run back yesterday. We both own
comedy and all of the New Colleague Club in New
York City, and she helped me right the tift. You know,
that's what she's supposed to do. That's my wife, that's

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Kenda Nick dole Um. I would like to shine the
light on our council woman in the state of Delaware
in the City of Woman, saying her name is Shanee Derby.
She does any of everything to fight for black and
brown people. She shows up that protest at council meet,
ends at townhome meet, and she will come to your

(01:07:30):
house if you got the issue. I just think that
the light, the light needs to shine right on Shane Derby,
Thank you. I want to shine the light on Chris Witherspoon.
I grew up with him. I just want to tell
him he's doing a great job and I love him.
This is from Kareem, Cooma. All right, that's time. A
couple of weeks last, I was snipping with my friendston husband.
It's been going on about at least a year or
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(01:07:53):
blew up in my face him with her husband. My
big friends had to stad me everything's just crazy. Now.
I don't learn that's how to my friend no more.
But I still talk to her husband. She doesn't know,
So it's just crazy. Yeah, going way yea turning out
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