All Cakes No Dough

On this episode of WTB, Tam and AJ discuss their uneventful weekends and their experiences with 420. During their S.I.N.S of the week, they spoke on Chris Brown's diss track towards Quavo, Drake's AI diss to Kendrick Lamar, and DC Young Fly speaking on BBL’s and mommy makeovers. They also touch on the subject of polygamy and Neyo’s recent revelation about being in a polyamorous relationship. Next, they have  Layla Red Cakes share her side of the story after being harassed and having her personal information exposed on the internet by a very popular Twitch streamer. Lets discuss in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
to talks. Hey, y'all, welcome to a new episode We
Talked Ship.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is your favorite coast, not your favorite co host.
I feel some shade the fuck.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's your favorite podcast, and I tell them I love y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you. Okay, you a j holiday, your great a bay.
Let me add that period, how did.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We see.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Uneventful? Listen? I am a true Gemini dog. I really
be planning to do ship in my mind, and then
I don't. I'll put clothes out, I'll do all the things.
I look for the clothes, pull them out, all that shit,
and just really be renegad all my friends. So I
did that all weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yo, I listen, I do the same thing. I have this.
I had this amazing social calendar for the weekend. I
ain't do nonhing. I ain't do none of it. I
literally didn't do any of it. I mean the weather affected.
One night it was like rain and I was like, oh,
I ain't going outside in the rain. And then the
rest of the time I was just like, I don't
think I should, you know, And I just stayed home

(01:26):
because you know, four twenty was over the weekend. That's
a big holiday for me.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I didn't even realize it was four twenty on Saturday.
To my homegirls like, you ain't coming outside for a
fucking what for twenty. I don't smoke like that, So no,
I messed out. Did you I know you probably was
at the house blazing.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I definitely was. I mean, it just felt like a
regular Saturday for me, though it wasn't like anything. I
just had one little joint lit it up. Turned on
my favorite song by Yg Marley Lauryn Hill song praised
John the Moonlight.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Weird to me?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Why?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It just it's like the same thing I was saying
about Beyonce album. It's like the it's something off in
the music. It just sounds I hear something extra in
the music. It sounds off to me. And he does
not sound like Bob Marley either. I want to add that.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, I don't think he's trying to sound like Barb Marley.
I think he's trying to sound himself though.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Is he Jamaica? Does he have a Jamaican accent?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think he's American. I think that's Laura Hillson. So
he was raised in the stage. I'm assuming, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's kind of like a nigga making a Jamaican accent
on the album. That's what it sounds like to me.
It sounds like.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I love the.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Song and listen every time he said thank you, thanks,
I hit the joint every time he said thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
What that's how you're showing gratitude to the universe or
something hitting.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
We No, I just was making it a game for four.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Stupid So that was it.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh, sorry, I do anything Sunday. No, all right, let's
get into stupid internet leavest Oh.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I did buy a box of fucking oysters and fried shrimps.
I made me some oyster Rockerfellers. I got a whole
big ass commercial box of oysters in my refrigerator and
I'm gonna finish up true Charlestonian. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That sound good. Did you have sex after?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, you would be stingy with that pristics that man y'all.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Have been doing all the time. You can't get them
to do what the fuck you need. You gotta ration
it out.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's a reward.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Good behavior. If you do get into the same.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
They don't they be they be forgetting Okay, who the
fuck you are? Anyway? Yeah, let's get into.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So what happened. Oh, Chris Brown came out with a
this song for Quavo, and I mean he he tried
to eat their Quavo. He really did, tried You're getting
body by singing nigga God.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
They definitely e third. He went too far, did he?
You can't tell people how to respond when you tit
and I tached your ass.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You can't tell.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
People how to respond. And you know, the one line
we are referring to is when he was like when
when when Offset died? Let me see me? When Takeoff
died and everybody wished it was you. I mean some
people may feel like that. I feel like he has something.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Everybody I was like, who the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Now he gets that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I didn't do that survey. No, I can't participate.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I wish no one had died, right right, But something
happened with that boy's murder man. Something something happened, and
we just don't fucking know. It's just one of those
one of those things. So I definitely don't wish Kuaev
was dead, Chris Brown quit fucking speak of us.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Everybody. Everybody wished it.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Was you, but he he could be very well talking
about their peers though we don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't believe even all the peers wish that, you know,
I don't think so that was a mean line. This
is rap beef. Why I gotta go there? Like with
the Rick Ross, Drake and them, do you feel like
anybody could potentially get hurt behind that?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I look, this beef actually made me feel like somebody
could get her. And we're dealing with an R and
B nigga, the rap beef like Drake and Kendrick Lamar.
It's not gonna go no further than that. But you know,
Chris Brown is a is a gang member, Okay. I
feel like he might turn up on a nigga in

(05:40):
real life and crash out.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah me too. I know he's capable. Ever since he
threw that chair through the window at Good Morning America,
I was like, please don't play with this singer nigga.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Because he crazy. I don't know Mike Tyson or Bobby Brown,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But who going off? And don't go carush. She got
a restraining order gainst that man.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right, it should have expired by now. And she I
did read an article that said she had put a
restraint in order on him in twenty seventeen, right around
the time where I guess her and Quavo started like
hanging out kicking it. So Chris Brown felt like he
violated the bro the bro code.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Kokuchi. I'm gonna start calling her k got.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I swear because every bitch after her looks like her.
So she's the prototype for Chris Brown. Women's tight. Yeah,
poor Carucci. But hold on. You know how Asian people
use toilets. Their toilet is like a porcelain hole in
the floor and squatting they apparently the kuchi is different

(06:47):
Asian COUCHI is different from anybody else's because of how
they Yeah, the squadron, Oh no, man stops.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I do a lot of squad not to use the bathroom.
But I'm squatting daily, baby.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And hold on to add on to the ship with
Chris Brown, did you see people were coming for Joe
Scott because of her Twitter because she said he was talented? Yeah,
and basically saying yeahs saying exceptional people oftentimes go through
exceptional things, which is, which is true, and I feel
like I don't think she should still be being punished

(07:26):
for the ship with Rihann and Rihanna forgave him. The
motherfuckers was hanging out ever since then, like after that
when her and him and Carucci was like on a
little break. At some point they were at a game together.
So if the victim has forgiven this nigga, why y'all
keep bringing that out. They were kids, they were.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Both victims because he got his last little hit too.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I feel like Rihanna probably beat that nigga up first,
probably a few times, probably a couple of times before
he I swear like, we ain't talk about no little
ass people. I remember when Chalice uh did an interview
about NAS and she was saying like how volatility relationship
and marriage was, and she was like, I'm a big girl.
It's not like I was getting beat up. We was

(08:05):
fighting or some ship. Okay, So yeah, I believe that
it was mutual combat between Chris Brown and Rihanna, and
he might have got the best of her. But you know, women,
women got hand problems, and that this is not.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't have them no more because I used to
have them. I used to have them, and I used
to be fucking my nigga up a long time ago,
and then he hit me back one day and I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna keep my hands
to myself. That's all I need.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
And I've been doing it ever since. The nigga hit
that re button on your.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Real about a reset, but you always talking about a reset.
I knew he was reset you.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, he did literally save your life because the
next nigga might have killed you.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yep, he definitely put me factory reset right in the
top of my.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Head this program. I mean, you guys put your hands
on niggas.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So let's move on.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Let's so uh DC young five, this is same. Yeah.
He was on Cam Newton's podcast Punky Friday, and he
shared how he is constantly reminded of the loss of
Jackie O. He says, basically, anytime he sees a BBL,
he thinks about her, and he thinks about like how men,
you know, need to make sure they're telling their women

(09:27):
they love them often and how much they you know,
appreciate the body everything. You know, be nicer because we
do do women like to say they don't get the
body done. For men. Okay, I do it for myself. Yes,
that is partly true, but I think a lot of
women doing We had our guests this week we talk

(09:48):
about bbl's Okay, yeah, I think sometimes a lot of
the time, right, we are doing it to attract the
opposite sex. Okay. You want to look your best. When
you look your best, you feel your best. So if
for some women, adding some ass and getting rid of
ground beef bellies is to get to their best, that
shit mommy makeovers. I feel like it should be standard

(10:12):
when you give birth to a human being, you just
really ruin your body some women, because everybody's not everybody
can snap back, but some women do. I feel like
it should be standard. If I get a goddamn tummy tuck,
I feel like not a tummy tuck. If I do
a C section, I feel like you should just go
ahead and get me a tummy tuck at the same time,
Like at the same time are doing just staple it

(10:33):
and just.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Heal from all of that shit at once? Can Is
that possible? Do people ever have it?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I want to say. I want to say there's a
hospital in Augusta, Georgia that does offer that service where
you can get a mommy making.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I mean, they already cut you exactly, so.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Just sniff that extra skin and pull it back. You
gotta recover from the incision anyway. So he says, I
get why women want to hands themselves. I get it.
But fellas, we have to do more than just continuously.
We have to do more than just continuously telling our
women that they are beautiful. Uh, you have to continuously

(11:10):
tell them that they're enough. Dc as certain don't make
your woman feel like she has to do something, even
if you fucking with a bitch with another chick.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I don't know what he was talking about. I think
he was talking about even if you got a side bitch,
make all beautiful or something. I don't know what, but
if you got a.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Side bitch, that's probably what's causing her insecurities. Also, like
she's comparing herself to this other woman. So you can
be telling her she's beautiful all day long, but the
actions aren't adding up. Okay, So there's the other there's
a bunch of things you have to do. Women have
a lot of insecurities. Men have insecurities too. They may
not lean into them and admit him as much as

(11:51):
we do.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
But then social media, I think, you know, outside of
your partner, social media definitely affects how we view ourseling.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yes, you're nf sharing yourself to somebody else.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, And I think it's really it really sucks for
the kids growing up right now because fresh out the gate,
they're already having these, you know, body image issues based
on being on social media so young. We didn't have
that problem growing up because we didn't have you know,
all we could compare ourselves is the bitches in our neighborhood.
And I don't even think we was really doing that much,

(12:27):
you know what I mean. Maybe I think I don't
think I was comparing myself as far as like cute,
maybe a little bit, but more I had colorism. I
had colorism issues as a young girl because people used
to tell me I was pretty for a brown chick
or pretty for a dark skinned girl, and I used
to affect tell me that.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I feel like we pretty much the same complexion.
I know when I got to Benedict though, because I
came with a light skin homegirl and Nigga was like, damn,
I ain't never seen no brown skin and light skin
geechees before, like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
What he seeing?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I guess black eyed sketchies?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
What boy?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
What? So?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you gotta you do have to do more, you know,
And I think he definitely is probably still more than
the loss of that woman. They have three things together,
absolutely had the last staving and she got a mommy
makeover and didn't recover from it ultimately.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, I know that that's sad and it's very scary,
you know, because I said, I thought about getting me
some titties because after my uh losing weight, my titties
just shrunk. Yes, goodness, good grief, what is it? What
is happening? So I thought about getting me a boob job,
But don't do it. I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm scared to be. I only been put to sleep
one time, and that was for my fiber removal, which
I feel like it was a mistaken out too. So
I don't know to.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Add int because I mean, I got two close friends
who've had boob jobs. One of them she loves her results.
The other one she had to grow into it. She cried,
she was, you know, upset about it. She was very
regretful after having done it, but you know they have
to settle in and drop and all that city start

(14:24):
looking natural. But when she initially got it, she was horrified.
She's you know, embraced the titties now because they ain't
going nowhere. It's not like she had a fucked up
surgery and nothing is just that you don't know what
type of emotions you know going through. That's an unnecessary surgery.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
When you change your body. Yeah, I mean, any plastic
surgery really is unnecessary because it's all about vanity.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
The only necessary surgery. I think when people lose a lot,
like you're really big, and they lose a lot of weight,
like that.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Skin removal that skin, that's necessary. So that probably shit hurt,
you know, carrying all that skin.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Pretty sure it's less than the fat they were carrying around, but.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, it was just hanging there. It's just hanging off,
you know, it don't have nothing holding it hold it.
But you lose all weights.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You think that you're gonna feel so good about yourself,
but now like you kind of deformed.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Now you look like a melted candle, Like literally look
like a meltic candle. I understand why they would want
to cut.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Off absolutely I would definitely cut that ship off.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Girl. Yeah, don't get mad at me for saying that,
y'all that I'm sorry because I know somebody gonna be
in my ideas right now, like fuck you for saying that.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Look like how y'all was all on Charlamagne saying big
back activities and now they got all the memes and
it's like a real like hashtag now and people like
stuffing clothes and tody fucking uh stuff and extra clothes
until they closed to form a big black and form
a big stomach. That this this proves to you that

(15:55):
we could talk shit, but it's like almost like saying
the word nigga. Like women, we can talk shit about
each other, but y'all niggas better not do it. Mouth
shut nigga. We only talk about big activities over here, okay, right, because.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
We got them.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
When I tell y'all, y'all knew a couple of weeks ago,
I told y'all I got a tattoo, so oh, I
think I mentioned this, like the tattoo would be looking.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Regular, but when you put your arm down the.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Place like letters no more. And I wanted to get
some ship added over there. But I got to get
my back tighter. First, y'all might see a little keyloid
scar underneath this fucking tattoo for the summertime. Summer time. Fine,
So moving along. Neo got no bitchous honey. Okay, we

(16:52):
talk about nonminogamy and and oprah relationships and polygamy on
this show.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
He got you all got him three.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I seen him talking to the TMZ. He had two
of them with him at the time. The girl on
the left was looking like, if y'all want to get
the fuck up my face, get these cameras from around.
But y'all, y'all signing up for a shit. I am.
I am one hundred percent for that shit. I'm one
hundred percent for Neil finally living in his truth. My
only issue with it, and the fuck that part about

(17:26):
it is the children that you created with other women.
That shit he did with his first wife, had her
get her tubes tied to only marry another woman, had
her have two kids for him. He has extra babies
on the second wife. So you you did all of
this right instead of just being honest with yourself day one.
I guess it just takes growth, right, but you you

(17:49):
you basically destroyed probably the mental health of a few
women on your journey to polygamy. You could have did
that shit day one and found you some bitches that
was DTF and done.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
That because it's they're out there, clearly they're out there,
but you gotta have you definitely got to have money
for that. So y'all regulars, don't think.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Y'all the one you got, like I said, it's not
for male sexual gratification. It's for economic buildings. So he
has the means to take care of these women so
that y'all love to mention what they in Africa now
and then, but a lot of y'all don't have enough
money to play them type of games. All right.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Would you be in a polygamous relationship?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, because I don't have to be. I feel like
I feel like that women be choosing a situation. I
don't have to be in that situation because I don't
have to be in a relationship. I like being in relationship,
but I also know how to be by my fucking self,
and I feel like it's a form of settling a
little bit. Unless I eat pussy, Unless I like women too,
That's the only way I would be down.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
For that type of shop.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I could listen. I think I could do it, but
not like that. We got separate lives and you live
in Wyoming and he come to Wyoming sometime and I
don't even know I'm saying this, but I don't know
if I can handle that Wyoming shit.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, I won't say that because see this, this this
comes in when you you think about like not owning
another human being. You can't really dictate what people do
in life. You have to see how they show up,
how they love and decide if that's some shit you
want to entertain or not.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
But every man that I've ever like really been with,
get the fuck out of my face.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Sometimes I a relationship in a monogamous relationship where a
nigga was a cheating on me. Ever, so that's the
part that makes me feel like it might be some
ship as long as we know everything upfront. But I
still feel like I don't have to deal with that.
I don't have You don't have to, Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, So I don't know. That's the only way I
think it could be plausible after I've been with a
nigga for so long, Like, where's your other bitch at
Goldville today, got.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Can you be coordinating with the other bitch? Hey, I'm
about to send that nigga to your house right now,
like she are.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You free this week.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I just feel like that's the name of a bitch said,
is definitely an habitual side bitch name.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
You know what that nigga.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
That's when they say, you'll be surprised how many women,
how many women going through relationship issues with your nigga?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Right? Are you free this weekend? Because I'm about to
put this nigga on the plane. I'm sick of I.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Told you a nigga trying to sign me up for
some ship to live with him and a woman like
nigga if you want to do, how much money do
you have? First of all? And I would need my
own dwelling. I'm not living in the house of two
other grown ass people. That's not how the.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, not especially in neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Look like Wendy William's husband that had moved that girl
from South Carolina, they was living, she was living down
the street from them all that time. Down is crazy
playing in wendy backyard.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But shit, that ain't no different. That ain't no different
than what Grand granddaddy used to do back in the day,
have a whole family down the street. Not my granddaddy,
granddad in general. Back in the day, he would have
a family here and have a family right down there.
But guess what he did. He took care of all of.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Right, somebody most liking because it was still a baby somewhere,
some third fourth woman he wasn't taking care of.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Or the milkman. So one of them babies wasn't his though,
you know, because women.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Be why that was like, man, it's a lot of
old grandma's out here who had to give a baby away?
Who had to you know, somebody else in the family
raised the baby because you're done cheated on your goddamn
husband like that shit was definitely.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Going on, or your husband raising a baby that ain't his.
But you know, he kind of know what.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
They his, like I did it to her, so I
might as I missed those days.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like I was there.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I missed those days when people just gave each other grace,
like I fucked up, you fucked up, we saw together.
I love you, nonetheless, we fucked up.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
We fucked up, right, y'all. I've been using natural deodorant
and I just can't do this no more. I don't
think I could do it like I'm just right now
for no fucking reason. I ain't staying with my army.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Regularly ornerant with the illumin in a minute is blocking
your pores, It's blocking the glands underneath your arm. That's
what causes the breast cancer and shit like that. So
you're still gonna sweat, but the natural de order is
just to cut the smell essentially.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, I don't think I don't smell bad, but I
just don't like heaving.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well the.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Time, take that fucking roll off. This is my COCU protection.
Y'all were about to get into some real juicy shit.
It's kind of messy for us. I ain't gonna lie.
It's kind of messy when we talk back, but I'm
sure y'all gonna enjoy this. Y'all stay tuned. We'll be
right back with Laila Red Cakes down.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
All right, y'all, we're gonna jump right into it. Okay,
so today's guests, I guess I want to preface this
introduction as look, we don't want to my fucking problems.
Oh man, we talked back, Okay, Apparently we're dealing with
a nigga who begetting ship deleted people pages and stuff
like that deleted. But listen, today's guest has had the

(24:09):
internet on five.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
For the last couple of days.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I cannot tell me how I cannot pay correct me
on the smelling heaps of his name. But Kai Tonat.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Y'all, we have Kiara Rush.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Okay? We see your real name? Yes, I find it
out anyway, you know, we have Kiara Rush.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Okay aka Layla Red Cakes.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
And we talked back, Hey.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Girl, okay girl, thank you for joining us. So initially, uh,
one of our favorite listeners of the show, she reached
out to us and said that her friend was being
har rest and people were talking about you on the
internet and this is a safe space for black women,
you know. So I was like, no, we got to
bring her on so she can tell her side of

(24:57):
the story, so people don't just to get get to
run with their own narrative about you.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right, yeah, absolutely, And Uh, I wanted to start by listen,
who is Kiara Rush? Never mind Layla Layla Red Cakes, Okay,
Layla rad whatever, who is ya?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
That's the real me? I mean that was before I
got in the industry.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, just my government, basically the real meaning, without
all the entertainment stuff and all the drama.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I guess right, because you're a mom, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's the number one. Basically I'm a mom. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
I was like, I didn't want to bring Kiera Rush
into the situation. I wanted to continue to be Laila
red Cakes. Right, this is not a situation for kier Rush.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But uh, he definitely put your whole name out there,
your whole real name.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
And now because he did that, his fans are finding
my personal embarras on the internet. They're putting my family's information. Now,
they're doing all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
So it's like, but it's real.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yes, it's a real show.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Right, it's a real shit show.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
So all right, how did what happen? Like this rundown?
Like really what started all of this? Like, first of all,
how'd y'all meet?

Speaker 4 (26:12):
We met through a mutual friend who kind of like
I was fucking with the friend, and the friend like, look,
my homie got a bag.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
You ren be fucking with my homie.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Two fucking I'm like, shit, you ain't my nigga, don't
give a fuck fucking I'm off the bag.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
So I know he kind of.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Like lured the friend into kind of like the situation
mm hm. And we got on the live and we
you know, chopping it up or whatever, and he like, oh,
you know, give me a number whatever. I'm like, okay, cool.
So apparently we had to talk before. I guess two
years ago he.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Said, I was I left him on red or something.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I never responded, I guess, because I mean I was
in a different part of the industry.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't really know who he was, you know, so
I looked at him as nobody.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
So he's like like, you know, let's make up for it,
or you know, let's make up for it or whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
So we linked that day and he said me like, yes,
he did me an uber, Like that's I'm never capping that.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
He never sent me an uber and all this, but
that's not the only amount of money he sent me.
So it's just so funny how you just trying to
make it seem like that that was just it. You know,
we had like an ongoing relationship. It wasn't just like
a one time thing. We did each other multiple times.
He was sending for me in a black car.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I was going to you know.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
It was never just like oh, it happened last year
and or it happened this year. It was a multiple
time things see each other, like four or five times
m and like it was of course I ain't gonna lie.
I was an adult entertainer so before that's who Lailor
is and that's what I wanted to get into adult
entertainer and some you know, things ain't exchange and it's not.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's like the narrative he's trying to make it is
is not fad.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's like, I just want to really clear my name
because it's like you're trying to make it seem like
I'm a liar, like I'm lying on you. And really
the agreement was you say you're gonna pay me the money,
and that's how the contract was.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You didn't pay me the money, so there's no contract.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
So it's like you, if I'm not getting money, I
might well come up steel from the situation.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, Hindy, okay, did you or did you not sign
an NDA? Or are you saying he breached that any
breath might have signed because he didn't come through with
the rest of.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Him exactly because it was only an NDA. If I
was gonna get my full amount, like it was agreed.
We have the messages five before I signed in between
and five after, and that was cool.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I was cool with it because how did it break them?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
So if y'all were already fucking around, how all of
a sudden now.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Then they got out.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
We was together. Basically a picture of us got out
and he didn't like it. I guess the fans was,
you know, you know, they pick up stuff quick, and
they floundered around and all over the place. So I
of think like when we got together, it was no
like like agreement that we couldn't post each other. We
couldn't like talk like you know, hang out, blah blah blah.
So when I posted the picture of us, it wasn't
even a bad picture. It was just a picture of

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us killing like he tipped this.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
The pictures in the band was that it was last.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Feel like we could have placed that off with the publicity,
so we both entertainer, like we could have said anything
you feel me, just make it like we could have
did publicity for my song whatever. You know, I could
have made it like that. But it's like the fact
that you're trying to make it bigger than what it was,
and it was last year, you're coming to me some
about last year.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
This year they let it go.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Now it's already out like like and then the way
you come to me, you talking about something, Oh bitch,
this you better do this and this, this and that
and now you talking stupid. Now you got me fucked
up because now I ain't doing nothing now it could
just stay out there.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So so initially when you posted a photo, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Never no, it was like I thought, it was you
feel me like he who he is? I'm like, okay,
he said fuck you, like if you.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Definitely look Hella comfortable in that picture.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
If he felt like I was on board it. Do
you think he would have been that comfortable with me?

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Got finished breast that it's cats what I'm saying, like,
come on now, if it was just only like business
or just like that, you wouldn't let hi motherfucker just
stay in your crib like that just overnight and multiple
times you said like come on now, it ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So y'all didn't have like a conversation before the pictures
went up, like it.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Was just like now, we didn't talk about it just
since April this year when I signed the contract. We
never talked about nothing until I guess when he's seen it.
But he said he's been seeing it. So if you've
been seeing it, why are you just not saying something now?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
That don't even make sense?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Okay, So the image was out there for a while
for a year, essentially right when y'all used to be
fucking around last year. The fans get a hold of
the image. Now he wants to flip on you, like
you doing something to him. He invites you to his place, right,
records you. I listened to his thing. He invites you
to his place, he records you.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
And that was the day I signed the NBA, so
I knew he was recording me. It was never like
I was trying to hide the conversation. That's why in
the conversation I was so open about what I was
saying because we had already tasted about it.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So why you're still talking to me about this? Like
he's beating you into the conversation about it?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
It was cool and that's already care because we already
had a text Messa degree already what was gonna happen.
So it was like, why are you still talking to
me about the same stuff. But he didn't even record
the whole conversation. How after he paid me the money,
how he asked to fuck me right after that too, Like, so.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
The five thousand initial five thousand wasn't for sex. You
had already gotten money from him for other things throughout
the year or whatever, y'all right, but the five thousand,
the ten thousand was for signing the day.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Right, Okay, got it exactly?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Like the rest of the stuff is like like other
things that went on between like and our relations part,
like that's irrelevant. It's like the part that you paid
me and you didn't finish faving me, and then that's
what kept it quiet, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
So that's when the cock shot comes out with him.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Why there never was nothing to then because I even
wrote with my say, okay, are you gonna get my
money today?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And because I brought my friend over there with me.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
When I got the money, I'll say, you're gonna have
my friends side of not disclosure too.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
He never responded. I gave it a few days. I said, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
So your friend can technically legally still talk about the
transaction also, right, because she didn't sign anything exactly. He
was just a witness to the.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
She just don't want to get any She's like, it's
so massy, friend, I don't want to he done.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
She just don't want to sew her face.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Mmm, damn call her.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
We got third party evidence over here, all right, we
got a witness tell me you're stupid.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Like, this is a lot messier than our typical uh
conversation on the show. But we support black women.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
So it's just like, don't try to catch me out
like you got you got a whole nother phone. First
of all, you you do the screen recording, it's a
whole nother phone. Like you're not even showing the right phone,
Like you're throwing a whole nother phone. That's why when
they start calling him, he has to get off the
line because it was a whole nother phone.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's a whole lot of it.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I've seen that, so are you a lot of He's
not in the fan base, so they're gonna ride with
a witches car like I want my fans to ride
with me. But that don't make you right or wrong
just because they radically right.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, because we are, We already know people more interested
in the lie than the truth. The thing is, if
I were a nigga, however it happened, I would be like, yeah,
I did that, I paid for that pussy.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Next like it worse.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
He's making it way worse than what it is because
like the way you responded.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Like sorry, yeah, I paid for that, like that's her
profession exactly why.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
It's like you mess with the port start and then
it just don't even make sense, like how did you
not expect any other type of situation that happened?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like you're paying me to be quiet and then don't
even finish paying me. Thought I was just gonna be
settled with a five thousand.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, so technically he didn't pay you for six he
paid you for I mean I didn't say that. Yeah
I have.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
To say that allegedly, but I didn't say he didn't pay.
But I'm saying the five thousand that's on the receipts
is not for that, right, it's for it's for the
help me.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I understand, because how do like a conversation like that
like happen like a transactional It don't.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's just really like in the like when I get
books or when guys don't see me I know what
it's for.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Like it don't really have to be a conversation. It's
really like just give me.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
What I want and you get what you want in
or it be like you might I don't know. It's
like you really don't talk about it. Sometimes sometimes you do.
Sometimes you do when they come directly like okay, this
is what I want, this I got this about. But
sometimes things just happen and then they just give them
money after work the menu, or they don't want to
be like.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
This what I'm I saying, Like how do you know
what you're gonna get? Cause the nigga might be like
here go forty dollars.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
No say what you're about to say? This is this
is the part i'd be getting on niggas, go ahead,
see what I say't want to.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Feel like they being a trick, Like it's okay, Like
you don't have to feel bad, like making sure you're
a woman good or like she making sure you straight,
Like gods feel so bad, like.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
They want to be the ones.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
It's nothing wrong with them.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
They want to be the ones fanessing woman at the
pussy and this how like men they want regular women
who work nine to five to be doing some.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Whole ship for free, played with the ads and all
these people, but you don't want to cut me a check,
bitch back.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Allegedly allegedly.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
So, like, aside from uh, I've been researching you child, okay,
So I really wanted to get into who you were
before we got to him. But here we are anyway, right,
But so you got a BBL and then you stopped
doing porn? Yeah, did you gain like more esteem after

(35:38):
you get got that BBL? Is that what it was
that made you stop doing porn?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I knew I once I invested in myself, I could
be bigger than what I was. So that was really
this investment move in myself. And I knew I didn't
want like I really got into the port industry.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
For the money.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I didn't want to get big in it. So I
started to get kind of bigger. And that's why I
was just like, you know, fuck this ship. I want
to get my body done and just be what I
wanted to, really be able to do the music. And
I know for music, I mean, you gotta look the part,
the bitch. You gotta look the part. Like I was
so big, I was fat, bitch. So I been like
I mean, big Mama, big diamond cakes. But I took

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what I took the time to invest in myself so
I could be bigger than I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
If I did, I wouldn't be getting hooked up with Casnat.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Him.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, these niggas be easy.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, so you know they gotta make they you know,
make it look like you know, this is what they
be doing.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Like they all with fat holes and she you know,
do right.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I know some pretty bitches. Yeah, my whole life.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
With this body.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah you're not fan a shut up, but I'm she's not.
She's just in her brain.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I definitely got a fat bitch on the inside, all right,
Oh I.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Think yeah, there the nicest people have a fat bitch
on the inside.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I think.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So Okay, when when you when you signed the paperwork
and it said five thousand front of five thousand later,
why are you most like most women I know who
are in the industry, don't never agree to money later.
It's always give me everything up for it.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Don't play with me because it's like when you sign
a contract, you think I'm up a gone, not fuck
with the contract. You feel me, It's like you signed
a whole legal contract basically, if you break the contract,
everything's up.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
So why would we.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Ten thousand dollars in the NDA? Was that a verbal?
Let me that's where you fucked got at if you
didn't have ten thousand in the NDA?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Like it wasn't even in the NDA.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Let me even s play it to your hot signed
all right, okay, so over when you go over there,
they got little papers, little papers that you can't just
discuss like what you do in that house that day?
Like it never was an NDA that I couldn't discuss
what me and him had personally like it was never
nothing that was written up.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
It was like a contract that they are random contract
that they automatically had because he was trying to get
around his team on what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
So one hundred real, I'm trying to tell you it
was a fake ass contract. It wasn't even really.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I didn't show contract exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
It was the contact he had when people come in
there do the little shoulder shit, they don't talk about
what happened. It wasn't a contract that said we could
not talk about what happened between me and you.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
This is and that It was never that That's what
I'm saying it's all capt as fuck.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
He's not even a real on the messages said what
what we was gonna pay? That's more contracts in the
damn thing we signed. And I'm the only one that
side that he didn't sign ship. That's what I'm saying
it was. It really was just one of those contracts
for when you come in there and you see him
at the amp house, you can't talk about what you
filmed about. That's what that was. And that's why I

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didn't care about It's cool. I knew you ain't playing
because I'm gonna play.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
You right back. It's cool. I knew.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I was like, why why why she letting this nigga
pay for pussy by weekly? Like that's really right?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Why?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I guess what I was saying, like this nigga, this
bigga after paying. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Now, So you haven't got any phone calls from any attorneys,
none of that ship.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
That's just I'm telling y'all, that's just like showing your
weed man for giving you bad drugs, Like period, What
what's you gonna go to police to tell, oh, I
bought bad drugs that make your dumb ass goofy too.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
We know the revenge porn because you putting a picture
up of him laying in the bed with it like
a soft softy is kind of like revenge porn.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
It was covered.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I saw that dick girl, you showed my nigga. I said,
look at, look at, look at.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, Allegedly I
saw that on Twitter. All that got out here. Allegedly
I see him that same photo. So s he could
just be trying to plot on me.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
He put it exactly, he could. He put it on
the internet, he explored himself.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't know somebody did it.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't know now, I don't know who's doing that part.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
So you just reposted some ship somebody else put on,
you know.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
So the so the last time y'all hung out, you
got your five bands, and then everything was good, and
then when was he supposed to give you the next installment?
Two weeks? And then it never came, and then and
then reached out to him, nothing, no response, and then
you didn't heart from him after.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That, no words, and that's why she's turning up on him.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
And how long ago was that?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
It's like three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Oh damn, you waste no time. I thought you was like,
this was last year. I gave that niggas six months
to get in give me that five thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I gave him a couple of days then I and
then I started blasting. Now now the money I'm suposed
to get. Now, I'm finish get from everywhere else.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
So it's cool, it's cool, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Take the money. I might as well get the cloud.
Everybody like, oh, your cloud takes a bit, okay if
I ain't getting it, Like, if it's the cloud gonna
benefit my name, why not?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
What the right?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I just want everybody know that when the New York
niggas say on my mother, he can back still be
fucking lying niggas be swearing the.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Mom time time.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, work to my mother.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Lie. Well, I hate that happened to you, because I
hate when somebody tell me they're gonna do something and
then don't it.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Make you feel like, damn, he just tried to play
the funk out of me?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
How do you feel about about because I've seen a
lot of videos it's mostly guys like basically saying like, oh,
she's down bad, she's a dusty, she.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Don't have ship, that's what.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
But first of all, what I do, So why do
you expect to be able to finesse me out of kucibody?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
If if? If? First of all, Kay is like one
of the top of the top niggas, right mm hmmm, soda.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Like internet, do you.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Think he would suck with a bottom of the barrel
ass ditch that you feel me? You trying to be
the top to fuck with the top, that's all I'm saying.
You're gonna give it you a track, That's what I'm
saying me. I'm not gonna fuck with a nigga that
I know it's gonna take me down. I mean, when
you at that statue, you better be thinking like that.
I hope that's how you think.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It Like, Okay, well he probably thinking like that now
that before, but now he is definitely thinking like that because.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
People be dependent on your integrity. Don't depend on my
integrity when you know you don't have no integrity right right.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
But it's like, don't make don't make me have to
be the villain like you making me be the villain.
I wasn't even trying to be the villain.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
It was I wasn't like I said, I was never
trying to just like like just down him like okay,
I never like the message, the picture never had nothing
crazy saying on it like oh fuck this nigga, or
it was just are just a picture and he even
sits it back to me like damn, like why you
put but.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's just how to approach you did and how you
talking to me.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Like no you have Because then I had to let
him know, like dude, if I was trying to expose you,
I would have posted this and I'll see him the
picture of him naked, because I said, if I was
trying to expose you, I would to post this. I
wasn't trying to expose you. To the way that you're
coming at me crazy is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
He still never offered around apologize.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's what he tries to make it right.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
And that's why I was just like, okay, well shit,
I'll take it there, no problem, because it really wasn't
enough to be I'm like, just take me shopping. I mean,
I'm really just being like a girl like okay, this
tyke be shopping whatever, just you know, made me feel good.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
You're going crazy for nothing, like.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Nigga, chill, just be chilled and then he acting like
oh fuck me, blah blah blah shit. So I'm like, okay,
well this so he's like, oh, I'm gonna do that.
I don't take you shopping, but I got about four
or five thousand. He's the one who initiated the money.
Like I never came to him about, Like, oh, what
does he not want you to talk about?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I want to know what he doesn't want you to
talk about. Allegedly, Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
He don't want me talking about the fucking and all
the nasty shit he had me doing the hill you
nasty ass to come out. You don't want that shit
to come out out. I'm saving those juicy details.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I ain't gonna back.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And like come back to we talk back and tell us,
tell us today the reality he don't want me to
say about.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
And then all the see he didn't told me about
all these motherfuckers in the industry.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Now he was pillow talking right.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
So that's why, because he don't want none of the
ship to come out.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
That's why he's got my page deleted and all that shit,
because you know that shit's coming.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, No, I know he's a younger boy like I
know he's younger than you, right.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, yeah, so he guess how old are you?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Thirty?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, definitely much old. So he felt that's not a cougar.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
You a puma in comparison to him being twenty two,
twenty two thirty, you're a puma. Almost see your puma
and what's your add kids in the mix? You definitely
are puoma. Yeah, but he was that comfortable to men
love the pillow talk. They actually talk more than women.
So he was that comfortable and.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Then all like, Okay, I'm gonna get you'all exclusive on
this part because we wouldn't been fucking wrong, that's for sure.
Oh you had.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
On you So if it wasn't, what if it was
something crazy? Do you think we would be doing all that? No,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Oh cause you had to make a music ondum.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Like the first couple times we did and then one
time we didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So what's some What's some things that makes Kiara happy
outside of her kids and money ship?

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I mean, I really love being an entertainer, my music,
just expressing myself, being me, Like just being able to
have a fan base that really fucked with me and
understand like Okay, like I did do the industry ship,
but I'm trying to r brand myself and do bigger
things and sometimes you get a little bumps along the way,
but it takes you to the top some times.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well, this would be the perfect time to drop a
new single, this track.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, come on, come on, Night Night nigga.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
So in the next two weeks I'll be dropping it.
It's called night Night Nigga, and.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
You will use that picture of hand. I'm gonna run everything,
damn right there.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I'm gonna have Yeah, I'm gonna do like a little
picture of a little cartoons, don't where I have somebody
in the video with dreads.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
A little short.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I'm a short nigga advocate. Not too much on the
short niggas.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Okay, I love all right.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So I watched you do an.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Interview on somebody show on YouTube and basically your mom
found out about you being being in a profession because
your cousin was about to have a fucking jerk session
and didn't realize it was your ass on the turn around,
could you imagine? So he send it to your mom.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
He I don't know if he sits the tour, but
I know he definitely the one who tore her. I don't
know if he sits it though I didn't ask that part,
but he definitely the one who told her like Okay,
you know, and I was just telling my mom was
going out out doing photo streets and shit like that,
like well but the whole time, I'm really grown as fuck.
But it's really like like, okay, porn is not like
a number one society thing, Like right, I'm legally a

(47:10):
porn start I could I found taxes on this pussy
Like through society. They're like they ain't fucking with it, right,
So it's like she was like not with it? So
like why you just said tell me? And this is
like mom, how do you tell your mom? Like Okay,
I'm a porn sorry?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Like right, were you always popping up pussy? Like you know?
Me and Tom talking about this a lot. Like when
I was in high school, it would be bitches who
would get trains ran on them and shit like that,
And I'm like, how, like what's the thought process?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Like what? But I did have a child early.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
I had my daughter at fifteen, so the first time
I had six cause I got pregnant, so like I
was kind of I really was kind of curious about,
you know, other dicks, bigger dicks that his ship was little.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
He was like, who's next?

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Go?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I was kind of curious, but like I kind of
was scared too because I had a child, you know, y'all.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I was trying to stay away from it too.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
So that's how I kind of end up liking girls
in that process, trying to stay away from that ship.
And then I kind of came back to it when
I had my son, and I had him with one
of my tricks unexpected.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Right, So then it's like, you know, not horsing horse, y'all.
Ever read that book Horsing by Donald Going's horn son?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah? Yeah, So like how did you, like, how did
you embark upon the horn industry? Like, because I mean
it's not like you somebody walk up to you and
just be like, oh come you know, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
They used to have this thing called sexy jobs dot Com.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
It's like a craigslist for porn stars and you just
going there and you apply it and like or you
put your profile up and managers hit you up and
different productions hit you up. So this manager had hit
me up, and you know, he had took me to
what it was in Wisconsin, wis conson. I faked audition,
and I can pick audition basically, you know it's fake.

(49:06):
But did that and then he started like getting me
booked out at different places and stuff, and he just
started to make me feel like he was a pip.
So I kind of took kick tips to the curve
and took on.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, just missed my level.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
And I would never understand why women need management.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
For the old girl you.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Don't like, you don't realize that he actually do it.
He'd be like, oh shit, I'm clipping. So then I
I got on tour with Pinky, and once I got
on to a with Pinky, like they kind of make.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
My career start going high high. I was the only
rookie on tour word.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
So it's just I started to get it bigger than
I wanted to up in the industry.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
And I'm like, okay, let me stop for a second.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Letbe I got all this money, let me just get
my body done, rebrand myself and do my music because
that's what I really want to be known for.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
It.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I'm just gonna take my fan base from over here
and take it over there.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
No man, so how long were you in the industry.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
While I was better than yourself?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I was in industry for three years and I've been
retired for four years, so I've been out longer now.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
M Yeah. So now, so now your appointments only huh?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Are your appointments only? Now? Is that how this works?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Now? I mean, if they're bad big enough, you got
a man? You in a relationship? Huh?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Are you in a relationship? You got a man?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, I've been in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
For a year. So how does your man feel about
this whole uh debacle?

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Well, like when all this stuff was going on, like
we was on a break so like all like it's
like I kind of kept finding myself fucking back on
Ki every time we was going to break, going back
and for like okay we're gonna break, well let me
go fuck back o cart here. But that's kind of
like how it was.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
So but let me ask you this, did you like her?
Did you like him?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Like the b and energy was great.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
That's why I didn't know like how it had all
turned to this like it was good energy, good vibes,
Like it wasn't like I was trying to be his
woman though, Like it was, but it's like, okay, we
can have we can it, we could do visit, it
could work. You feel me like it's a good music relationship,
so why not? And you can get a little person
if you won't. But I don't know if he had

(51:08):
a maybe I don't know if maybe he had a
bitch that he was trying to fuck with or something
that made why all this stuff happening all of a sudden,
Because why anna saying that last year when you say
you've seen all the stuff, that just don't make sense
to me.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
So let me ask you this with that is this?
How can I put this question? So, will you like
deal with a guy who you don't like if they
got enough money or you gotta like them all?

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Like, eventually you gotta like him because when you when
you start okay, so like when you're.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Dealing with and you try to fall in love with
a trick.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
It don't work out because you're gonna always think that
they are trick. So when they stopped doing trick activity
because y'all in the relationship, it's gonna be a problem
because then you're gonna be thinking like, okay, you was
just spending.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
All this money on me whoo whoo.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
But now that I'm your girl, it's shanging or your
movement sage, and you're not treating me how you would
treat me if he was my trick, because it would
just always be like transactional. So it always just become
a problem when you get when you fall in love
with the finest, you can't fall in love with the
finest if it's you gotta keep her separated. You gotta
keep her separated. That's why if it's like if you're
gonna be cool and y'all gonna be taking care of

(52:12):
each other looking at it, I feel like that's how
it was.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
It was never like transactional with me and him.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
It was like him looking out for me, were looking
at for each like if that's how it was until
the contract came into play.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
So so yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Allow myself, like I said, to like come a little
bit and shit because it wasn't just strictly just business.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
You know, right, But yeah, see.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
That's what this is the divide for me. So how
do you determine determine like who's a trick and who's
somebody you like, and like how do.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
How you meet him?

Speaker 4 (52:41):
How to how they approached the city, how I approach you,
Like if a nigga approached me and he's strictly about fucking,
I'm gonna treat you like a trick. And now if
you come to me and you you really interested in me,
you don't even care about the pussy part, But you know,
that's that's gonna make me want to fuck with you.
That's gonna make me want to see what you about
because you're not thirsty like these other yah you know.

(53:02):
But if you come on me and you're straight about
pussy and that's all you're talking about, so you text
me about.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
You hit me late night like, yeah, you are pretty?
Like what else? Because I mean, other than that, what
else could you be?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Right? I tell young girls all the time, if you
out with a nigga and they start talking about pussy,
automatically start talking about money. Now we all uncomfortably. At
this point, they're gonna both be uncomfortable because why are
you just assumer how exactly? Because I'll pay for this.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Food, I'm just gonna leave. You're still gonna pay for
the food.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Hey, okay, ain't ain't no wrong with me.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Let me go to I'm gonna go to the bathroom
real quick, baby, I'll be right back the table.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Pocket book out, Yeah, never come back.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
All these people that are like talking ship about you
and got all these negative negative things to say about
you based on what cos to not have said, What
do you have to say to them?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
No publicity is bad publicity, remember that. Guess what You're
gonna keep my name circulate. You're gonna keep me going.
Like all my shit has went up one hundred percent.
Even if you just going on my shit to hate,
you still count too, motherfucker. Like all my money is
going up. My fitdard went up one hundred times up
than it was before.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Like I'm getting books after book.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Is you got only fans?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That's I don't even know to put the only fans up.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I got just for fans because only fans deleted me
years ago because they was mad at me because I
was taking cash that payments kind of cut them out.
But AnyWho period, Yeah right, how you gonna third third
party tax my fee?

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah? So yeah, but I got just for fans now.
But he even tries to get that ticket down.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
They wrote me he got my accounts to spit or whatever,
because he was trying to say I was trying to
sell a video of me and him over there or whatever.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
So but I'll be back up on the thirtieth.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
It's cool, like everything he trying to do, like I
could come back from like you're not doing nothing that's
gonna really hurt me, Like because guess what, really, all
this shit is internet shit. Once I log off, my
life goes back to real life. Everything is not Internet alone.
Nobody's like coming up to me like, oh, you're the
one that exposed cats and that even though they might
want I mean people might notice me might not, but

(55:17):
real life sets scene once I get off the phone, like.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Like this is not my life. This is not all
my life.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Like I can live outside of social media, right, So
it's really like fuck them, come on, keeop coming.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So how did he get your Instagram taken down? Because
our people tried to send us your Instagram page but
it was down. So then did you post some image
on the Instagram? But why would they take your shit down?
He just got that much pulled.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Look, Okay, so he has fans that troll and troll
and troll and troll. They wrote me an email and
told me this is such and such and such. I'm
the one that got your account, took it. So I
went to do Instagram, clicked and he got like a
telegram link in his video.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I clicked it.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
They got a whole conversation on how they kept reporting
my ship. They took my count down for impersonating myself.
That's why I'm always get my ship back because my
ship is verified, like I'm me who I am. So
it's like, yeah, y'all gonna get it took, but guess
what they send me to late twenty four hours I
get it back. So I got it back yesterday and
they took it again. So all they just it's just
gonna be a.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Keep going back on and keep keeping kill.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
For a minute because I don't even got to be
on Instagram and I steel busting. I'm gonna let this
shill for a little second. But it's like it's the trolls.
It's the trolls. Like when you got fan like you
gotta say, he's a nerd ass nigga, like he got
all these gamers and all this shit. They that's all
they doing. All they isntrolling and all shit like that.
You feel me, so hacking and all that. So it's cool,
but I ain't. You ain't backing me into no corner.

(56:42):
I ain't stopping.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I think it would have been easier for him to
just have paid the five thousand dollars at this point,
you know, but he had excuses why he couldn't pay right.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Oh, she call him back.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
His best friend.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Hey friend, I'm on this podcast. You they can hear
you right now. We talk about you.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Are you? Information is not disclosed, Okay.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
I just want you to confir that he was with
me the night that I got the money at costs
in that house, was right, And you.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Ain't signed no paperwork? Oh no, no, exactly and how
much and how much? Exactly? Tell you how it is.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Come on, friend, go ahead outside.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
He walked straight enough around setting them with the room,
slams up, throw, bat them up, boom means a little transaction.
And he took you in the room exactly. Indeed, that's
when we that's when he recorded me. And shit, I've
seen him in his phone. I've seen him doing something
you not even doing for shick slick and move fucker.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Yeah, you know what it is, and that is what
it is.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
You know what I'm saying but but he did not.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Have you signed anything either, right, No, I ain't saying
make it exactly. We add an house now. He said
he have everybody who come in that how fast something.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
So he's like, yeah, I guess the only thing he
could probably fuck with you on now is the second
image that went up.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
That's yeah, and legend, which is cool.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
But that's cool because I'm again for defamation the character
character because my shit out there. So let's go now,
let's do it. Guess what, bitch, I'm coming to. You
think I'm not sewing you too, Bitch, I'm coming to
I just I got to broadcast my ship. But now
you know I'm sewing your bit there too. Defamation the character.
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Well, I hope that y'all can find a way to
like because y'all was cool, Like.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I guess it ain't there no, most Yeah, yeah, he's
he really was crashing out that nigga slam his little
gaming chair into the wall. He was talking to them fans.
O can't he have about eighty thousand people on that ship.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
To them all?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
And Cambra Yeah, when we saw her, we was like,
I just don't believe she's lying.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Well, why why why.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Like, You're not the only celebrity I fucked with, Like yeah,
Like it's plenty of celebrities out there fuck with and
still be fucking and don't be it. Don't be that situation.
I never had this fucking issue. I've been in the
industry so long, I never had this issue.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
So do you One time?

Speaker 4 (59:07):
One time, I did expose Zach Brown for the Washington
Redskins about five or six years.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Ago, because he did the same goofy shit, the same shit,
shang up.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
If y'all leading with money, give them money, like stop
stop leading with money and then not wanting to pay up,
wanting to you.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
The only difference with me is Zach it was in
the contract about the money.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
So did you ever end up getting your money?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
No, I did it, but his ass definitely got dropped
from the team. He was playing, the Washingtons. He don't
play with them no more. And the team manager who
set it up, they fired his ass too, Jay Sparks.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
So I mean it was cool.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I didn't give my money, but I definitely got to
put Busy off of it, and I got a lot
of book ins and shit. So it's all the same shit,
Like it's all I make the money back.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Like, so you're not afraid that because I mean, you
got a boyfriend, you are in a relationship with somebody,
but you do your thing whatever. You're not afraid anybody.
Other people won't be want to fuck with you thinking
that you won't keep their ammininity going forward or you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah, that's why I've been walking cautiously at this point, honestly,
And really I wasn't even moving too too much like
that anyway. I really only be fucking kind of with celebrity.
I don't really fuck with regular niggas, Like that's not
my thing because like you said, they gonna try to
probably do the same t shit. So I really don't
fuck with a lot of regular niggas like that. Majority
of them be celebrities or like in the industry, and

(01:00:27):
they know, like, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
No, I'm saying, are you afraid that the celebrities might
not want to fuck with you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
No more?

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
They think you They lined up in my inbox, they
finded me emails, TikTok, definitely Twitter. They definitely ow me that.
Oh please, I won't expose you. Look, I mean, I
won't pay you, so you'll have exposed it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yeah, cool, memory.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
They need to cut it out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Stop acting like met First of all, the fact that
I was fucking with him. Niggas like, oh damn, I
want to fuck with her too. This nigga was fucking
with her, Let me fuck with her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Y'all got niggas like some type of home onion rockism
that goes on because you know, you see this in
the industry a lot, like men want to fuck with
the same woman just because of the man that they
fucked with, Like do you want to fuck that nigga
vicuriously through this bitch?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Is that I don't even think it's want of I
think it's that it's an ego thing and I want
to be like, yeah, I had that bitch too, kind
of thing yea, And.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, probably both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But these niggas gay out here too, No, no, no,
I'm not calling them gay, So y'all gotta go gay.
But it's like it's like a it's a little low,
low cold thing that some men have. I feel like
they be on some they may not have actually engaged
with another man, but it's some homo eroticism like going on,

(01:01:46):
like I wonder, I wonder, yes, it might be a
subconscious thing. It may not even be consciously like I
want to fuck with this bitch because she fucked with
that nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
It's an ego thing, I think it may not admit
it though, just an ego thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Never going to meet it, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
So look, when we come back off this commercial, we
want to get a dumb bitch story from you. We
have a segment on our show was Dumb Bitch Stories,
SIMP series for the guys. Tell us the time you
got played by whoever child in our relationship. So we'll
be right back, y'all. Dumb bitch stories.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
So dull because we've all been a dumb bitch at
least once or twice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So let us know your dumbitch story because we all
got twenty of them. I got twenty of them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Well, I used to be in this relationship when I
was about nineteen twenty with this guy and he wanted
to have a baby so bad. I wasn't ready for that,
and we used to always be fighting and just be arguing,
and he ended up having a baby on me and
I took him back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
He had another baby on me with the same bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Took him back, had another baby on with the same
bit kids, three kids by the same bitch, and after that,
I couldn't take it no more. I don't even know
why I faced so fucking law dumb bitch, because what
the fuck this nigga had three babies on you and
your dumb ass and say with this lame ass nigga
ain't got shit you taking care of the babies like you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I'm tripping. I was tripping for what dump you was? What?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, that mama was him. He was living with you
but having babies with her.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
We was living together together, but I was faying majority
of the bill because he wasn't working like how he
needed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
He's working at Dick.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Yeah, he's working at Dick. And I was falling for
it for sure, dumb by not no more that Dick
don't work me. I'all worked the Dick period. It maybe
learn for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
No, well, luckily you learned earlier on, because it's a
lot of you know, it's worse being a dumb bitch
in the thirties and forties than early twenties, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I couldn't imagine doing that right now. Boy mentally probably
flashed out for real. Oh my god, I'm sorry. No,
you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Sorry, we all recovered. We all recover periodmen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can
find your music, all your things, plug it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Well, make sure y'all find me everywhere. Leyla Red Cakes,
so Kiera Rush as everybody say. Now, I'll be back
on Instagram real soon. Lylo Red Cakes three ess TikTok
Lala Red Cakes, Twitter, Layla red One, YouTube, Lyla Red Cakes,
Apple Music. It tells everything, Leyla Red Cakes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Just google me, bitch y're fast?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Oh hold on, hold on, since you as soon as
you said google me, I'm like you gonna say that cat,
he's that nigga boy all your domeins allegedly right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
He's he bought First of all, he bought ker Rush
dot com. Who the fuck is going to be looking up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Asked somebody do that to me before he actually did it,
tell a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
And guess what?

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
And then he looked up and then he put in
Leyla redks dot com, which maybe I might have had used,
But at the end of the day, what was I
gonna put on the site?

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Everything is all my ship.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
I used to start party set so I would never
have to use like okay, Leyli red k dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
You're not trying to have your own domain anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Right, and then when people look me up, they're not
putting dot com. So when you just google leylan red Cakes,
none of that shit comes up anyway. It's only when
you put Leylan Redkke dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Well, it's to have so you can have Internet estate,
like an internet of real estate essentially, So you do
want to own your domains, your it's your intellectual property.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
It's cool, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Fly anyway, So it'll probably hire next year and then
you can get I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Could get one of him with his full name and
his middle name in there, but what what purpose is that?
What am I gonna put on there? His big pictures? Like, well,
it's like this is no point, Like you you made
all that to because you knew you had to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Now train mark your name, that's different.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
My name is our trademark, so he calls that's why, right, See, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Why I don't care about Well, you might be able
to sue him for that ship because that is the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
N I own Laila red Cakes and everything about Leila
ree Cakes and your rush is my real name.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
So ill I've been owning that since I was born, but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
You still got a trademark because you remember that happened to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Yeah, well, Laila red Cakes I own though. I've been
owned that since I've been in the industry, so you've
been cooked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
On that, and then that's you're wrapping under Laila red
Cakes night your real name. Okay, Yeah, well, thank you girl.
We should appreciate you coming on and sharing your story
and giving us some exclusive content. I got five thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I've seen some lunch money though for pulling up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
No, I got bad and I can bring y'all lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, yeah, because I wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Tie funny ry girl. All right by.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Never hold your meat. Pay that bitch, pay that man.

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