Black Don't Crack, But It Do Cost

AJ Holiday and TamBam dive into an engaging discussion on relationships, dating, and the societal pressures tied to beauty standards. They explore the emotional connections that sustain healthy relationships, the costs and commitments of self-care, and the fine line between self-love and self-sabotage. The conversation expands into consumer culture, financial awareness, and the ways social media continues to shape self-image. Blending humor, personal anecdotes, and listener stories, the hosts offer thoughtful reflections on how modern pressures influence love, identity, and self-worth. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network Talk.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's up, y'all with your girl a j Holiday?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's up? Tam Bam y'all's official Tam Bam. I love
y'all so so so very much. How you doing, girl?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I am doing okay? It is today?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What it is?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It is today?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
And then wake.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I went to the gym this morning. Musty per usual.
About to say, what's a new girl, I'm bea taking
shout as soon as we're done, but yeah, I'm good
today chat.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I went to New York over the weekend and I
got my stuff, so I'm no longer New Yorker. A
good had a good with seven eight months run.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
You're out of there. Yeah, stuff smell like New York. Yeah,
I guess now you go to your grandmama house. Grandma
house gotta smell to it. That's how New York smell
like old mothball and football.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
They do have that old smell to it. I like
it though. Moved. Yeah, so now trying to figure out
where to nickt you know, just being like a GYPSYID. Yeah,
trying to find where I feel most at home. But
I think it's in the South, So we'll see where

(01:41):
that lands me. Maybe Atlanta. I don't know who.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I Atlanta got some shit going on that my energy
be two dreams when I go to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
You don't like Atlanta? Where you like Charleston?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I really, I mean that's why I moved back home.
There's really no place in Atlanta in America like I
want to live at. Like I feel like my next
move is gonna be out this goddamn country. Yeah, okay,
I'm ready to get the fuck out of here. So
I ain't really no place. I mean, as long as
you got a airport, you can get to where you
want to go at So really doesn't matter where you

(02:19):
live at. The only other thing I consider is like
cost of living, business taxes, Like where is that the
cheapest at? Do I want to move to Houston? I
would like to move to Texas. Texas might be already.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I like Texas.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I like it, Yeah, I like and Dallas but it
just whatever at this point. And my my weekend was
very chill, relaxed. Sunday finally wasn't raining, and then I
just still stayed in the house all day on Sunday hiberning.
So yeah, I ain't do much this weekend. Tjmax Marshall's.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I got to meet Taylor's baby. Oh oh, oh my god,
I know he gorgeous. He is so gorgeous. He looked
like a doll. It took everything for me not to
punch them in their face and run out with their child.
Like I just wanted to steal the baby so bad.
Oh like, oh like, I don't even really like I

(03:19):
love babies and all that, but holding this baby made
me want a baby, like and I was like, oh
my god, like I don't I typically don't feel like that.
I'd be like, oh, cute baby, I love this baby,
give it back. But I did not want to give
their baby back.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Is he crying? Is he a good baby?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You a good baby? Is sweet baby? Oh he's just
staring up into my eyes like do you love me? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
That that baby is definitely perfect, man.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh goodness, so perfect. Got long eyelashes, already six weeks old,
with long, pretty eyelashes, those cutest little, tiny little features.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh boy's always got the good features though, men, Like,
how do you get to have these nice, thick ass
eyebrows and lashes in curly edges. Jealous.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I wanted to steal that baby so bad, but I
knew I would go to jail and.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Go make your own. Go get your own, beggar.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Boy, Right, that's what I gotta do.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Let's get me sing, okay, y'all. Pro tennis player Sasha
Vicary is it Vickery? Vickery says she requires a thousand
dollars deposit to take her out on a date, as
she just competed for a spot in the US Open
this week. So this is an American tennis player, Sasha Vickory.

(04:39):
She's thirty, So she made headlines this week not for
only competing in the US Open qualifiers, but also for
candidly discussing her unusual dating policy. So during Instagram q
and a victory reviews, she requires one thousand dollars pre
date deposit, citing past negative experiences, she said, and this
is quote, says, I no longer day for free due

(05:02):
to the behavior of men, she said, later posting proof
of receiving such a payment. So people people spend in
the bag to take her out. Y'all want to do it?
For jay z in it. Oh no, they want, they
want fifty thousand order or dinner for jay Z. Did
you see doctor Umar trying to sell dates for five hundred?
He like shit, I got half the price for Chris

(05:23):
Brown for five hundred dollars. We could go on a date.
Talk to how far he's really They call him the
panhandling princess, Prince, the pan handling prince, you know, some
shit like that, but it says the Florida Bourne athlete,
who reached the career high ranking of number seventy three
and twenty eighteen, also defended her use of OnlyFans, calling

(05:47):
it the easiest money I've ever made. Her rep clarify
that while she shared suggestive content, she does not post
nudity or sexual acts and join the platform during recard
from an injury. Vickory, daughter of Guyanese immigrants and twenty
thirteen USTA Junior national champion, won her opening qualifying match

(06:09):
but was eliminated by Germany's Elia Sadel on Thursday. So yeah,
she charged, she's charging one thousand dollars deposit. I ain't mad,
me neither. And if the men are really willing to
pay for it, like who complaining?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Who complaining? For real, Well, Hickory Dickery doc Sasha Vickery
on the clock.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
And I mean Chris Brown charged a twelve hundred okay, right,
but you don't even get a date with him, no,
which brings me to my next topic.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You get dick on your butt.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Right. So a woman says her boyfriend broke up with
her after her meat and greet picture with Chris Brown. So,
all right, this picture, y'all is really cute. They're hugged
up like kind of like a prom picture. I mean,
it don't look bad. It don't look bad. Don't like, no,
it doesn't. It was kind of innocent. But it says,

(07:09):
my boyfriend broke up with me because I allowed Chris
Brown Brown to hold my waist during the meet and greet.
After the picture went viral, my boyfriend immediately broke up
with me. He told me Chris Brown was too close
to me and I shouldn't have allowed him to hold
me like that. But I don't care. I will trade
my boyfriend for a meet and greet with Chris Brown
one hundred more times.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
She said, and I'll do it again. I had that
meet on her back. Her boyfriend ain't like that shit
because he'd be seeing that damn that dance and how
that should be jumping.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I think every relationship should be allowed one celebrity crush
that if they ever got the chance to fuck, they
could no. Ah mean if my mom, if you ever
get close to your celebrity crush, is she gonna let
you do it? My boy? Because let me tell you happen.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You don't let him do it. But but let Itrew's
album come through or some ship like that. Them nigga's
gonna be mad as hell in men's mind, there's no
reason why you can't get that man, you know what
I'm saying, Like in their minds, like we got access
to everybody if you wanted to, Like.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
We got to her kids. And it's probably right. And
that's why it's horror, my boy, because when it's my
third I'm probably gonna weird.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But how are you mad? Because like it's a celebrity.
She can't what's in a lifetime oftentime? Why you want
to make a big fuss. She needs to get rid
of him anyway, because he's probably jealous. Chris Brown Dick
wasn't on his back.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
And it was probably just boys liked look at your
girl boy exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's all that ship was about doing a boy what
your homeboys.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Said, ego, it's ego. So she did, right, I mean
we broke up with her, and it was for the
best because you shouldn't really care that much.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You shouldn't and I mean she went viral. Also that
y'all could have used that as an opportunity to go
do some other shit like great business, start selling some products,
I don't know something, but instead you just became a
hater overnight.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah. Over, I'm pretty sure, I say, some worst pictures
with Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, he just is taking like a garter belt off
one girl for ever. Not a garter belt. What is
the thing thinking your thigh? Is that a garter belt?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, he was just sliding one down. Somebody said it
was panties and I'm like, that's a garter belt. Yeah,
what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
What is the problem. It's just all relax a little bit,
all right.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So study shows that women need forty seven minutes forty
seven minutes of unbody a tension a day from their
man to feel happy and fulfilled in their relationship. Research
shows I don't know if these articles be real or not,
but they always fun. And this is on black Billionaire's
underscore Instagram. It says, fellas, you may be forty seven

(10:18):
they says, fellas what this is? Definitely who the fuck
wrote this? I'm gonna read how it says though, fellas,
you may be forty minutes of daily attention away. Oh
that does make sense. Daily attention away from keeping your
women happy and fulfilling your relationship. In the fast paced
world of modern relationships, emotional connection is more important than ever.
According to fightings inspired by renowned relationship expert expert doctor

(10:42):
John Gottman and studies published in Psychology Today, Pubman and
very well mined, women thrive in relationships where they receive
at least forty seven minutes of undivided attention each day
each day from their partners. This is just about being
in the same room or watching TV together. It's about intentional,

(11:04):
focused time spent, listening, sharing, and being emotionally present. Research
shows that when women feel seen and heard, their sense
of fulfillment and a relationship increases significantly, boosting overall happiness
and emotional security. Doctor Gotman, known for his ability to
predict relationship success with remarkable accuracy, has long emphasized the

(11:26):
importance of daily rituals of connection, small but meaningful moments
like checking in, emotionally sharing stories, or simply enjoying uninterrupted conversation.
When couples make time for these moments, they build a
stronger emotional foundation. The forty seven minute mark might seem

(11:48):
oddly specific, but it highlights the critical need for quality
over quantity. Just under an hour of focused attention a
day can lead to better communications, stronger intimacy, and increase
satisfaction on both sides. And the waiter bitch is smiling
at me across the camera. She's about to say, girl.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You read that good, and then I might think about that,
but you did. You did good. Though I'm probably you
look out. It only took five years for you to
be and not like you. What is happening girl? You
know what's happening? Soundly?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Don't my brain be moving faster than my damn mouth
a lot of times or the other way around. Yeah,
that's what be happening.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
But no, why I was smiling is because I was
just thinking about Like was forty six minutes and the
bitch was like, I'm still sad, you know, I feel
long fulfilled and then after forty seven minutes, bitches was like, yeah,
life is good. I'm so happy now, Like how did
that get that exact number? Seconds? Like, yeah, I'm gonna
break up with him. I just don't like this. I

(12:54):
don't feel good. Forty seven minutes. They was like, he's
a man of my dreams. He's so perfect.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I mean I can I don't know why the forty
seven minutes. And even when they talked about the forty
seven minute mark, it still didn't like.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It makes sense. See how they got to that exact number.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, it just as critical need for quality over quantity.
I don't know how they got to forty seven minutes
exact right there.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
If they could have said a little under an hour,
if they would have just like that, but forty seven.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Is crazy now, I want to know, like how Yeah, so,
I mean, rather you're taking like a little walk or
even like a forty seven minute phone call, like having
like giving your woman that forty seven minutes of undivided attention.
Especially I guess if you live in a house with
a man with kids and all that shit, like y'all
gotta gotta take time out for each other, because if

(13:48):
you're not falling in love, you're falling out of love.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I was talking to this guy and I was like,
I thought I liked him. And then I was driving
through a storm and I told him I was on
the phone with him. I was like, I'm really really scared.
I feel very much in danger. I'm scared. I'ma I
can't see anything in front of me. I'm gonna call
you back when I get through it. I call him
thirty minutes. I was driving terrified. I called him back.

(14:12):
He ain't answered the phone, and then he didn't call
me back until late that night and nothing was wrong
with him, so I stopped talking to him. Was that?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Was I like tripping for that?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, you were not overreacting. Like when I say I
want a man that is concerned about me and considers me,
I mean that. So, yeah, you were not concerned about
me enough. You didn't check back on me.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, and I make sure he ain't give a damn
clearly scared. Yeah, and he did not check back on me.
And that was a ooh that was a bound red flag.
Oh no, I can't talk to you no more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
We I'm good, I'm cool. Yeah, okay, you know, like
I'm cutting niggas off for less nowadays. So right, they
they're like, nah, you you out of here?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, right about your business?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, because a woman that you care about, you might
not even let her get off the phone, like now
let that phone on speaker phone while you drive. Right,
Men know what we expect, So me not doing the
things because actually men expect the same things. Right, So
if they're not doing the things, yeah, they're not fucking
with you. They will show you. They may not stay

(15:26):
out their mouth, but they will show you how much
they fuck with you.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah. So there's that what we're talking about today.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
How much money we'd be spending on the fucking stuff basically, So.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The neighborhood, y'all. We call this black dog crack. But
it is expensive, and that ain't no expensive.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
It do cost.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It do cost. So we're gonna get into that, like
what it costs for us. Listen. I was in the
airport yesterday and I couldn't get in the lounge because
I ain't have Miami's card on me, so I was
actually sitting down in the airport. So I was mad.
I said, went to this little margarita spot in the server,

(16:11):
check my ID for my drink. And he was like, well, damn.
He was like, how y'all do that?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
He was white, He's like, how y'all do that?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know? First he was like take your glasses off?
Because I had my son glasses on. He was like, well, damn,
you're nine months older than me. But he looked very much.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't know what people expect you to look like
at what age like.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I think they expect you to look like them and don't.
But we're gonna get into it when we come back
from this commercial.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
All right, y'all so black, don't crack, but it do cost.
So what were you saying about this man in the airport?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Town? So this man was taking my id. He took
my order and then asked to get my ID and
I gave it to him reluctantly because I don't really
tell people how old I am, but I guess I
had to at a restaurant and he was like, can
you take your glasses off from me? Please? So I
took my glasses off and he was like, dang, like
don cheeto. So he was like, damn, you look you

(17:25):
look half your age. God, damn, how do y'all do that?
What is it? Is? It? Skincare. What is it? I
was like, it's melanin. Maybe you're not made it, but
it's also lots of money, lots of products. Also because

(17:47):
I just had some botox in my forehead. And let
me tell you, I was watching our videos from not
this last recording, but the recording earlier, and I was
like wrinkling my forehead and I seen lines in it,
and I said.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Both of us, bitch because I definitely had my boltox
after that first series of videos.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, so it's not all just meling it. It's also
a little bit of nip tut facial structure. So we
do a little something once you get to a certain
level of maturity and bag.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Because it costs money for upkeep, you know what I'm saying.
So that's really what this episode is about, Like how
much money are we really spending on making sure this
black doesn't crack? Right? I think there are a lot
of black women who really don't get bulltox and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and don't need it either. Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
And I'm probably like averaging once a year. I've only
had it three times, and actually the first time is shit.
I did that Dice sports shit that did not work,
and it gave me a lazy eye, so I never
did that shit again. So it's only my second time
getting boltox. I find a really really, really really good
girl to do it. But yeah, for that your forehead

(19:00):
and this little mad dog fat piece right here, like
I need to go back, and that's how it happens,
I know, but seeing I shouldn't be able to scratch
my face. I'm already able to scratch my face and
now I need to go again.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, no, you don't want it so tight that you
can't you don't have no facial expressions. Yeah, but I
don't want to doing that. That's why y'all should keep
doing it. And then want to talk about why I
keep doing that because you keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, but I can't help it because I naturally, like
when I smile and laugh and stuff, I ball my
whole face up. So I need the botox to like
keep my forehead stiff.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, so how much is that?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Every time you go the person?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
This is actually the cheapest I've ever spent, and probably
the most units I've ever gotten. It was like three
point fifty.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh that wasn't mad, not at all. I'll go get
a whole facial balancing, so I'll get that right. So
I have, y'all, I have a receding chin. I think
that's from my I just found out that I'm eleven
percent Scottish, so I think that's from my Scottish side,
because I see it more common in white people where

(20:11):
the chin it doesn't line up with the face, it
goes back a little bit. So I get chin filler
to like make it like balance. So between the chin
filler the botox in my forehead, i'd be spending like
a stack at how often I don't go as often.

(20:35):
I might go like once a year or two, because
I really don't have a thousand dollars twice a year
to be given. I don't think I got a bad face,
it'll be okay. But once I start saying like a
little like but y'all, I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna
be honest. I'm getting chin lightpo in October.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So and what does that consist of? Are you gonna
have like one of those things wrapped around your face?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Is it not chin light?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Or it's like this this part underneath the chin because
that second chin, it don't matter how much weight I
lose how much it has to do with like just
I think, honestly getting older elasticity. Yeah, so I'm getting
my chin turkey neck. Yeah, I'm getting my turkey neck.
I don't want it no more. And I'm tired of
looking at it. And we do our when we do

(21:22):
our videos, I can't even hear what we're saying because
I'm staring at that second chin so hard, like I can't.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I hate it so hard on ourselves, man, So I'm
doing that. So black dude, crack it, do fall it,
just don't fall as fast as others.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Now, you know who don't be cracking either. The Asian girlies.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
They have that age that Asian Cosmetics is like right,
like the that stuff is really really good. I use
a line, God damn, I forgot the name of it,
but I buy it and boke every Thanksgiving on Black Friday.
But I use some of their some of their products,
like the snail sermonss uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I like that too. And then another thing I have
going on. I have like when I was a teenager,
I never went through like the acne puberty stage neither
never had a single ZiT my whole life until I
got older up in like, I ain't gonna tell you
how I am, but up in there. Once I started

(22:28):
getting up in there, I started developing adult acne, but
just on my jaw line.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
On the chin. That's me running jaw line. I had
gotten you remember those pictures that I sent you? How
I got that? And this is why I don't do
a whole lot of nothing right. And it takes me
a long time to even be like, get the must
up the nerve to even go get a botox or
something like that, because I have very bad luck when
it comes to fucking with my body. I got a

(22:55):
chemical peel ones and I swear to god, I had
a fucking first degree burn.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I wish I.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Heard whichever is the highest.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
She sent me the pictures of her her jaw, and
it was white raw meat. I'm talking about white raw meat.
I could not believe my eyes. And it was like
black like burn. It looked like burnt skin, like straight up.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
It was and essentially it burnt like I don't know,
I hope that's not what it's supposed to look like.
I don't know how people go get their whole face
done with a chemical peel but maybe this person did
burn me, but thank god, right my body was able
to heal and regenerate new skin because I do have
like light scarring like right here, but you can't see
it because it's you know, underneath.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
But I'm seeing like now, I'm seeing chemical pills that
are like that, that are like they be like they
whole face come off and like like a hard and
it's i mean mhmm, like a scab. Yeah, like a
big assa coming off. And then when the skin heels,
it looks amazing. But you just got to go through this.

(24:05):
I mean, if you ladies want to do that dude
around Halloween, so you fit in, because baby, that ship
looks crazy. That's really vasive.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah it's cray z mmm. But so's it's being pretty
making us broke, you know what I'm saying, Like, especially
with the social media area and people who are actually
trying to look like they're the filters. You know, to
what ends are people spending to look perfect online?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, that's the thing with these filters. You ain't got
to spend no money. At this point, you ain't got
to spend no money. You just ain't gonna look like
you're filtered in real life, you know, that's so you
don't have China. Yeah, but people are trying to do that.
That ship gets it very expensive, even if it when
it comes down to like just skincare products, not like

(25:00):
actual procedures, but like their products are high too. Exactly,
I'll be going to Trader Joe's and getting their skincare shit.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I like their You think is it organic?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Mm hmm, it's stuff. I like their stuff. So I
go get their their toner. I get their jail face
moisturizer and a face wash right out of Trader Joe's,
some nacho, some salsa, and some skincare right out of
Trader Joe's.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
So aside from like cosmetic type products, like tell me
about the time you like actually like splurreged super splurged
on an outfit or sounding like that for an event,
And how much did you spend oko fat shoes now
all the things.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I this was many many many years ago, so I
didn't even have the money to be spending. But I
was going to Miami. I mean I was in my
like twenties at this time, y'all. I was going to
Miami and I want and we were going to live.
And I was like, I gotta be a Babbage when
I'm going to live. So I it was this website

(26:06):
where you could rent designer clothes.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wrong, rent the one runway way yep.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Rent the runway, and I got these cute dress. I
can't remember who the designer was, but I probably spent
like two hundred dollars to rent it. But then I
got in a fight in the club and they ripped
all the sequence off my dress, so I couldn't return
it like that. I had to pay for the dress

(26:34):
and it was two thousand dollars. Two thousand dollars dress,
So I mean, I guess that's a splurge. I didn't
intend to splurge. Them bitches ripped me out my dress.
That was definitely a splurge on clothes. And then I

(26:55):
went to like in twenty sixteen, I went to Sonabella
to get my back fat removed. Don't go to Sonobella, y'all.
I can't unless you like really fat. It ain't for
you because I feel like my back I came out
with the same back I went in with.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I even well, one of my friends she went to
Sonabella and she is not super big either, but she
got a fat back like and when I tell you,
none of that shit went away exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't know what they're doing. Like so when people
like do you have have you had plastic surgery? No? Right?
Or it didn't work because that looked the same fucking
way I did before came out.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
So but does Sonobella like offer like non evasive lipol.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, So it's not like yeah, because they don't put
you to sleep. It's kind of like freezing the fat
McDonald's of LiPo.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Huh is it like freezing the fat or what are
they doing?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
No? I don't know what the fuck they doing. I
wish I would a little bit like more smart about
how it went about playing for surgery, because it was
a waste of money. They give you a bunch of
drugs that make you sleepy, and they put some numb
and agent inside your back and then they just like
I think that gave me a back massage, and then.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
It was back there with one of the little dough
rollers just rolling your shit out.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And that was it. That's really what I think happened.
The drugs that give you make you kind of sleepy
and not like coherent for real, and I just really
think that that's what they did they just was that
they're playing on my back, rubbing it, smacking it, playing
on your top, and then that was it. What about you?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I don't think I've ever spent like an astronomical amount
of money. First of all, I feel like I can
make I'm gonna make the things look good no matter
what it is, right, So it's not not you can
some really nice pieces and not spend a whole bunch
of money. So I think probably the most, like maybe
on some shoes possibly, but like on just full a

(29:11):
thousand dollar max. If I got to really go to
an event or something like that, I'm probably not spending
over a thousand dollars like I'm You're gonna get a
good dress, might be three hundred and something dollars some shoes.
I'm not going to get my makeup done. I'm doing
that shit myself. I have followed Tam up multiple times.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
You will though, I've seen you pay for makeup. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Now I was about to say, like, yeah, I have
followed you up multiple times and paid for makeup, and
every time I'm like, I could have did this shit,
or this is too much shit. I can't wait to
wash my face. I don't like it. It's just too much,
and then you gotta wash off one hundred and fifty
dollars worth of product.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Let me tell you what time I got some biggest
utization on right, yep, last time I was in Atlanta,
I went and got my makeup done for I can't remember.
I think it was the No, I didn't do it
for the festival. I can't remember. But I could not
even pay for my service because I could not open

(30:10):
up my banking with my face.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I D no, you did you did get your makeup done?
Because remember I had to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I could not get to my bank. It did not
recognize me. It kept saying, I do know that, ain't you? Bitch?
Who is this? And the first thing I told her
is like, I don't like a lot of makeup because
I want to look like myself.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, I not cast get ready?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, I couldn't even get into my bank.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, because the makeup girlies don't know how to do
a light beat. I don't think, like if you go
get makeup, they automatically assume, like even when you say
light beat, it's gonna be like face full of makeup,
like it's your wedding day or something. And even then,
I guess that's.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
That people be going for because I remember one time
we went and I was like, gosh, this is a
lot of makeup. But by the time it's set, I
was like, Okay, this looks nice. You know, this does
look nice, but I just like my.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Side out that hmm, right out the chair, you'd be
looking like somebody else. But it does set, but it
takes like an hour for it to like look like
it's supposed to look right.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So I'm not a big makeup earlier like that. I
love makeup, but not just too much. Good grief and
that shit is so.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
So what about the girls who get all the nails
that cry cause you get your nails done. I don't
even get my nails done. So how much y'all people
paying for like the bedazzle nails like a Cardi B nail.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh, I don't even know. I don't go that far.
Just give me some polish, that's all. I don't do
a whole bunch of designs and stuffs and stones and
shit because I don't have time for that order money.
I know they be paying like up words of almost
a hundred fifty hundred and seventy five dollars for they nails.
I'll be paying my twenty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Huh, twenty five dollars was a full set back.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
In the ready. No seventy dollars easy, easy.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
You look what pedicure. Your pedicure is like forty dollars
now plus a tip? Fifty dollars plus a tip.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, plus more than that. My feet, my refeet, I
need more. I need the whole shebang.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not buy refeet.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's just the left foot, the right foot, normal, right
that left foot, Like I go to this girl that
ain't Tiffany the foot surgeon for my feet.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I need to serious shout out to Tiffany.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Shout out the Tiffany what she do?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So do we is this stuff?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Is it self care or self sabotage?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Are we doing too much? I know the men hate
the weave, right, I just be like, it's a whole disclaimer.
When I start talking to somebody, like, listen, you met
me with this weed. I always wear weave.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Don't kind of.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Harass me a year from now, Like, baby, when you're
gonna let me fuck you with your natural?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Never?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I mean you have fucked me with the natural, but
it's under a bonnet. Okay, do you let me see
your hair? He probably could have had a would have
had the opportunity to see it if he would have
just walked in the bathroom at some point. But no,
I'd be putting on a bonnet if I don't have
my way going. I don't just be walking around with
my fucking braids. Do you have hair pretty?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I don't. It's just nothing though. It's not like my
hair is in style. You know, even if with natural
hair you can just you know, do two strand twists
or something like that to make it look cute. It's
fucking dry and breid it down. What am I showing?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
So no, it's not insecurity. Maybe if I actually did
the hair, then it would be cool, but it's not
done like in nine times out of ten, Like these
braids underneath this fucking wig look crazy. Yeah, And I
feel like women need to keep something. I need to
keep something to myself, the illusion, right, you have to
style and experience.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Passing that out ahead?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Sorry what you say because it'd be hidden?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Go ahead? What were you saying?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, like you gotta keep something to yourself, you know,
Like I don't think that men should wash their women
get dressed. I don't think so. I don't think you
should see me putting my makeup. I want to doing
all the things, putting my magic together. I don't think
it's your business.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, that's why I don't do too much walking around
like naked. I stay covered up, like you only get
to really see me naked until it's until you get
to see me naked.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I'm a naked person. I'd be walking like I hate clothes.
As soon as I hit the door, I'm taking all
my clothes off. Can you just be walking around here
all the time, Yes, I do. I come from a
naked family. Like even the fun boys like niggas be naked.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'd be naked, but when I'm with a man, I
be covered up because this is this is your price,
this is your surprise. You don't get to see it,
just all willy lilly.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Willy nilly. So I think it's I mean, I think
it's it's self love. I don't think it's you're sabotaging
in any type of way. I believe that you know,
we should do whatever makes us feel good. Right, So
if and and men should be okay with their woman

(35:35):
make them feel good, Yeah, Yeah, my ex for example,
he would always complain and then say he just wants
me to be comfortable. I am comfortable. I am not
the one complaining about the fucking weave. There's some ship
that you'd be doing. I could very well complain about
some things that you waste money on. I can complain
about like so you under the guys of control, right,

(35:57):
that's control, but under the guys of just wanted me
to be comfortable, you're really making me uncomfortable. And now
I got to have a whole argument with you about
fucking weave. The point the one time this nigga called
his mom, and his mom was like, you're asking the
wrong person. I wear wigs right, because essentially he was

(36:19):
trying to say I wasn't me. I wouldn't be me
without the weave. And yes, I am talking about the
nigga who cut my wig up one time, okay, because
he thought he was removing some swag from me, and
I just went and fucking sewed me up another one.
I got so much weave, I can open the shop
right now. But yeah, he thought he was like taking

(36:41):
some swag away. No, I'm still mean with it, and
I still treat you good with or without weaves. So
what are we talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I don't like when niggas be like spray paint in
their beer. I don't like that. But if that makes
you feel good, then who am I to tell you
not to do that? You know, but maybe let me
paint like I will even do the color for you, baby,
don't put that like that hard line paint line. That's

(37:09):
what I don't like. I don't mind you coloring it.
That's fine, do that, But that hard paint line be
making me real upset.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Called anxiety a little bit mm hmm, break that anxiety
a little bit, break that line up the fuck. So
let's do like a little let's go over like a
budget of some sort, like how much people be spending,
like the high end, and maybe we could do like
a budget low wind to try to help some of

(37:38):
the listeners. And most of the most of our listeners
are younger women, right, And you don't.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Got to do much younger women. It's half and half.
It's women younger and in the middle. Right yeah probably
your age, Yeah, your age too.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
So I just want to back it up a little bit,
right because I know I mentioned like, was it like
self love or are we self sabotaging spending all this
fucking money on things and stuff and keeping out with
the joneses and keeping out with the trends? What do
you think? Do you think it's self love?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's a little bit of both, honestly, because when you
look good, you feel good. You know, absolutely, when you
got on some new shit, your hair is all leg
you feel nice, you feel good inside. I don't know
if our self worth is attached to our outer appearance,
but maybe so a little bit. So. I mean that's

(38:48):
self love to me. But at the same time, if
you eating ramen noodles to get your hair done, that's
not self love. You putting that portion into your body,
you know, and you.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Look like money.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
You sacrifice in your health to look good. It's people
who don't have a side tooth, but hair is laid
like that.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I lean more towards I understand like it is kind
of both. But I think when I think about the
black community and our culture, it is self sabotage because
niggas will wear the money instead of actually having it.
You know, people will be spending a last damn dollar
on some shit and ain't paid a light bill. Your
lights off because we know black people are the number

(39:38):
one consumers around the world. Okay, we're gonna buy some shit.
Everybody markets to us. We move culture, we move style, fashion,
all that stuff absolutely so they expect us to buy. Meanwhile,
we put all our money out. We don't have much
coming in, right, And I know for a fact that
if a depression hits Mo, bitches is still going to

(40:02):
TAM's vanity they get their hair done right, it don't
even matter. So as a black woman, like the beauty
industry is the number one industry you should be in
because bitches don't have a dime left, but they're gonna
barter some Kucie or something to get there. So I
lean more towards it being a little bit self sabotaged.

(40:22):
I mean, like, I just feel like other races of
people can show up for real, like truly their true
authentic self and an example of this. And I hate
that my ex par I be listening to this shit
and be like bitch fucking But when I met him,
it would be like an equivalent in comparison to pictures
he would show me of him and how he had

(40:42):
like the gold teeth and all the things. It would
be like a a Gucci mane like three sixty right,
completely different person. And he was in the hood, hustling
in the streets like he had to. Always super smart though,
always an intellectual, but because of his environment, he couldn't

(41:03):
even show that part in him. This nigga liked to
make his own clothes. Like when I met him, he
had some crazy ass ban Dana shit on it, some
tank top he had sewed up hisself on the sewing machine,
Like that is the real hymn. Some shit he didn't
even have to go spend two three hundred dollars on,
Like that's really what he liked, but he was trying
to to he mastered it. Because of his environment, he

(41:26):
couldn't show how smart he was. He couln't show how
creative he was, you know, because we think everything is
whack and lame, like even like the glow up with
the white men when they get with black women, Like
the glow up is that that's a real thing. And
I don't know they got anything to do with clothes
or just the energy of us, right, it could be
both a little combination of both, but they look like

(41:46):
they spending more money on clothes once they get with
a black woman.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Right, But I think we culturally, not just black, but
even in Africa, like we've always been very aesthetic pleasing. Yeah,
like that's part of who we are, you know. I
went and did some research during a break, and I
found that the black in twenty twenty four, the black

(42:12):
consumers spent over nine point point four billion dollars on
beauty products, and it was expected ten point two billion
last year. I couldn't find last year's numbers, but in
two point three billion went to hair, cosmetic and nail
grooming one point nine billion, facial skincare one point one

(42:36):
billion dollars and in body one point two billion dollars,
in fragrance one point five billion dollars. And we are
the greatest spenders in the country, even though we make
up a fraction of it.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Right, So Bobo's always been lean, but we would stress
our parents out, not even realized they couldn't even afford
that bult that bullshit, right, stressing your parents out for
Jordan's and not my mama because she ain't give a fuck. Girl.
I ain't getting no name brad sneakers for real until
I started buying them in high school. I gets some
regulized nikes and that's it. But you know, and we

(43:13):
grew up in a house though, so her priorities was intact.
Bit motherfuckers was growing up in the hood, had all
of shit right, all the j's every time they came out.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
But some people, in their defense, they feel like they're
never going to be able to have that stuff, like
the big home, the big cars. The greatest thing they
have is the outward appearance of their esthetic. So they're
gonna pour into that because the house seems just outside
of what they will ever be able to get. But
I can look good, you know, I can drive a

(43:45):
nice car, and I can look good every day, you know,
And that's probably as far as I can go.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But that's not true generally. Yeah, it's not true. But
I understand the limiting mindset, right, the lack of mentality.
And I think our generation millennials in particular, the way
we be sending these kids to school and to prom like,
how are they going to keep up with that as adults?
Like what the fuck was thinking about getting a Gucci

(44:12):
bag in high school?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Right? Like?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
These little kids want like real bags and parents are
affording these things. I don't know where they getting the
money from is it a real bag, is a canal street?
But I got a homegirl who daughter got like a
little Gucci bag to start school and goddamn elementary school.
What is happening. I know, you get some little hand

(44:38):
me down, you get my little hand me down shit.
But no, I'm not going to buy your brand new
anything for that type of money. It just doesn't make
sense to me.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I just don't have it because I would do it.
I know I would do it, you would do it.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I mean, okay, I took I.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Had this diamond bracelet that this guy brought me and
it was expensive bracelet, but needed to get some links
taken out because it didn't fit my wrists and tall.
I went to put them diamonds in my god baby ear, Okay,
and I do it, And I know it was expensive.
So I know that I'm the type that will trick
off on some kids. I ain't gonna lie. I will Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Not buying no Gucci bags and shit for for kids
to lose kids. I mean, now, this little girl who
I'm talking about, like she's at the age now where
like she likes fashion. You know, she's maybe fifth grade
or something like that. So if that's what they're into
and they know exactly what it is, like you ask
them what they want for Christmas and that's the actual
thing on their list, a Gucci bag.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Right. It's probably because of their parents. You know their
mom is into that kind of thing. But what I
don't like is when parents buy kids expensive stuff and
then get mad at them for ruining it. Like, man,
if you're willing to pay for this stuff, remember your
kids still gets to be a kid. You know.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I send this girl whipping her baby.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Because he was squiffing up his shoes. He is three
years Oh, if you don't want exactly some shoes, get
him some little pokemons or something, you know like that,
if it matters that much, it's too small to be
especially spanking him for that.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, Like, kids are gonna be kids. That's why you
should buy them bullshit. Okay, until they actually know what
it is and then they understand the value of things
and they can take care of it. But you can't
expect a kid to walk on water because that's your
big grown ass dude, because you like cherish these sneakers
and these things. You know what I'm saying. Over a
nice home, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And then people really don't be I mean, you get
that stuff and they feel good for a while, and
then you be fucking it. My best friend got a
Burken for her birthday last year, that expensive bag, and
it was a dirty diaper in there.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
The other day, I was like, oh my god, because
it's just a bag. Yeah, at that point, like it's
just I got it out.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I was like, oh my god, some snacks down in there,
like children's gonna be But you know, it's just a
bag at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
So shit, it's a diaper bag. And them bags ain't
even that damn Q. It's so many more like nicer,
like lower end. I don't even want to call it
lower end, because bitch, what what what makes something designer?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
It's not what I'm saying. It's about the mental status
that we give these things, not the actual thing most
of the time.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Not the actual value of it, right, because it don't
cost nothing to make a lot of this shit.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I was looking at somebody posted yesterday are the cars
that we used to be driving in the earth like
not us guys, And they had, like you remember the cars,
the fruit loops, the Cinnamon House, Crush the eminem like
they will put all these brands on their cars and
design the car around that brand. That shit was hideous.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I was like, you, opinion, did you get a check
from it?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
No, nobody, none of those They got all that free
advertisement from your stupid ass. But who decided that that
was the shit? Somebody decided that was a look, and
then the mental consciousness around it decided that that was
what you needed to do to have a nice country
ass car, and then that's what you did.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
You know, Yeah, I don't know, man. I think we,
I think black people as a whole, we got to
like re calibrate. And it's yeah, because I just I
prefer a nice home over stuff, you.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Like right now, I want a brand new car, and
I could go get one, but I do not want
a car payment, Like right now, the interest rates on
the loans, the insurance I my car, y'all, Why the
fuck am I paying like two hundred and fifty dollars
a month for car insurance? I don't even understand it.
You'll have a brand new car, you know what I'm saying.
So I even if I I want to be if

(49:02):
I can't buy a cash I don't want it, so
I keep it. I feel like it's gonna be some
old ass lady, right, some old ass couple go and
drop day fucking brand new Mercedes AMG sixty three on
a car, guru, and it's gonna be for me for
twenty five thousand dollars, and I'm gonna go slap them
in the face with a bag and drive off in

(49:23):
the car. That's what I just think is going to
happen for me, because that's what the fuck is going
to have to happen, because I do not believe in
paying fifteen a month for a car and insurance. That's
crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I don't pay that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I'll buy a cash car forever.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I do pay it a lot, but not that much,
not that a.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Lot of people for what I want, You're gonna pay
by two thousand dollars a month for it, And that's like,
that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
No, I'm not playing nuts, not one. I got to
do everything by myself. If I lived in a dual
income house, I still wouldn't want to pay two thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Of me in the car, But because I would be
thinking about what else I I can do with that money,
Like that's vacation, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Well, maybe it's because we don't have a lot of money. People.
It's probably somebody listening to us, Like two thousand dollars
a month, that's nothing. These girls are poor.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
You know, hey, look more power to you, because even
when I get this super duper bag, I still am not.
I don't like paying a lot to live. And what
people need to realize is that rich people really don't
spend money. Okay, they get a lot of free shit.
Yeah they do, especially if you're an influencer online, like
you will get all your free clothes. They don't spend money.

(50:34):
We are the consumers. The middle class and below are
really the people who are consuming the most is not
rich people. And I even hate to see like people
always like to compare like how flashy people be in
comparison to how flashy like a billionaire these billionaires be
having on three thousand dollars T shirts. Right, it's because

(50:56):
it doesn't have a label on it doesn't mean it's
not cost a lot, right. You see, Black people could
tend to be labor labor label wars sometimes, right, But
white folks they have they little things that cost a
lot of money that may just not have a label
on it.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I don't remember. Many many many years ago, o Cho
Sinko said to me, like, I get used the diamonds
out of Claires. Oh, let me tell you that part
out this guy said to me, because and I was
like Claire's. He's like mine from Claire's. He's like, because
people are gonna think they real because I'm me.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Exactly exactly exactly. Yeah, So when your reputation precedes you,
you can pull up with some fake shit on it.
Ain't nobody gonna question it, right.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
But that ain't gonna work for me. Baby, These gonna
look like Claire's unless you upgrade my whole life. Now
just another bitch with Claire earing zone. Please stop?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Where was this? I think this is that du ball day.
The bitches is walking around with the diamond tester on.
These dudes man testing niggas gold teeth. They was testing
their chains and shit. I'm like, why why black people
got to embarrass each other like that?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Like it looks nice, So what if it's really fake?
It looks nice, right, move around, like just be so
hard on each other when it comes to aesthetics.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Asthetics, yeah, very hard. I was watching this video today.
It was Nelly for Toto and she's gotten older and
she's put on some weight, you know, and there were
nick and a sick yeah she thicks, And it was
men in the comments like just tearing her up and

(52:40):
like just saying all the nastiest, meanest shit about her body.
And then when you would go to their page, I
would just I just took about fifteen minutes out of
my life to read them down, like read.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Them you're good for that shit, that shit messing.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Ooh ooh. That makes me so angry because how dare
you over there with dirty fingernails, balding head, fucking stomach
hanging over your pants, cracks showing uh, dusty rusty ass
got the nerve to talk about this woman because she
put on way and look at you the fuck. That

(53:18):
shit pissed me so bad. And I will go and
look at your pictures and then read you down because
you deserve it.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's just like recently Charlamagne on Brian Idiots, they were
talking about what's uh, what's Monica's ex husband name? The
basketball player girl?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I don't know. I don't be keeping up with the
people marriage. Right.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
So recently he was on not he wasn't on, but
they had a clip he was recently on somebody's podcast
and he basically was saying, like, you need to get
you a man need to get paw peers. Yeah, said
that men need to men need to get them like
a strong five six to seven. Don't be getting these nines,

(54:02):
eight nines and tens because you know, basically the eight
nines and tens know they're worth and attacks or right,
So get you a strong five six seven who want
to put some elbow, grease and muscle in there with you?
Some bullshit? Basically, y'all want somebody that y'all can tower over, right,
y'all want a bitch with self esteem issues and all

(54:22):
these things, right. And I commented on that post and
I said, you know, all I said was men are
way more shallow than women. That's all I said. So
of course you're want to get the attacks and it's
just the truth because men are way more they're visual creatures, right,
So a three and if we're going to put people

(54:43):
on the scale, which I don't like doing shit like
that because you know it's beauty is in the eye
of the of the beholder, right, So if a man
is a three, he still thinks he deserves a ten.
So that's why you see these threes commenting on Nelly's
for tato because in their mind they still should have
access to smash on the eight nines and tens. How

(55:05):
dare you not give me no pussy? And that's mental,
that is crazy. So women, we find men attractive for
different reasons outside of just aesthetics. For men, it's straight
up how you look right, And a lot of men
are with women that they don't find aesthetically a please
and they really don't even like you. They really think

(55:26):
that they're supposed to have somebody else. Their their finances
probably just don't afford them to get the woman they
think they're supposed to have. But even if you get
the money, sir, you're probably still going to be lean.
I remembers that part. I remember this guy saying. We
were all sitting around a table in a bar talking
and he said he compared his wife to a good Honda.

(55:47):
Oh yeah, you said that.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I'll never forget that shit. I will never. I was appalled.
And was she there table? I think she went to
the bar to get another round or something like that.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
That's fucked up right there. Why are you a woman
going to get the drinks right? Well, I think we
all took turns getting rounds it with. I'm like, no,
big dem, I don't know him saying some shit like that,
but I feel like he really be mistreating her.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Oh whether or not they divorced eventually, but good, I
couldn't believe that, Like, please, God, don't ever send me
in love like that where the man considers me a
reliable Honda Cord and nothing's wrong with my Honda Cord. Girl,
is if you're driving the Honda, I want you to
hear this to think your car is less than because
it is not. They are nice cars, but if you're

(56:34):
using it as a comparison to what you your mate,
it just seems like insulting very much.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
So, yes, a reliable Honda. That means you can dry
that motherfucker what Tuna say, Treatah said, we treating niggas
like rental cars, dogging them out with no dog gas.
Nothing you could talk about. So he just he just
gonna run through his fucking wife and she try just
be there, still working, because you know, you can put
about two hundred thousand miles on a Honda.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Right, the good card. I mean, they're good, reliable.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Good bitch ladies. Don't let don't let these dudes trick
you like that man, like don't listen, No, okay, hold on,
I want to play a quick game, right quick though,
sh you know, whenever we record again, like visuals. I
got a little website. I want you to take this

(57:28):
little test on. Were gonna both take the test. I
won't tell you exactly what it's along the lines of this,
right or it's like how delusion are women? Really? It's
but would you spend or save?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Game?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Basically? So are you going to spend nine hundred dollars
on a designer purse or three months worth their groceries?
I don't want to choose. If I gotta choose, I
can't do this, Like why we gotta choose?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
That's why I'm I'm saying, like what it depends on
what's going on in my life? You know, Like.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Because grandmama, my grandmama, my grandmama sick.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Right, it's grandma sick and she needs some money because
I want a bag and I want food? Like why
I got to choose? Right?

Speaker 1 (58:18):
But it's online.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
If I don't have no food, obviously I'm gonna get food.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
You know that's not obvious though, because it's a lot
of people if they got some shit to do, they
might fuck around, don't eat for the week to look
like somebody on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Right and say I'm fasting, bitch, you're broke.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Three hundred dollars sneakers versus emergency savings fund.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
If I don't have any emergency savings, then I'm gonna
put the money in the fun But if I got something,
I'm getting me some shoes. I need some.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Shoes, right. I won't say this is really for us,
because I think we might be a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
We're older.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, like, because did you didn't have health care?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Right now, I'm gonna eat.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
One hundred and fifty dollars on lashes versus gas for
the month.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I listen, I don't believe in paying for lashes. I
done have so many bad lash experiences. Look as stupid
as fucking can't get that ship off my face because
I got really curly lashes. And I tell that girl,
please don't put a curly lash on because it'll just
roll back into my eye and you your eyes closed
so you can't see what the fuck is happening. So

(59:35):
when I opened my eyes and I looked in that
fucking mirror and cup care on my face, look at
God damn stupid, and then I had to ground immediately
after he was looking at me stupid, I was looking
at him stupid. I was like, I'm not paying for this.
I's looking though, So I'm gonna get the gas every time,
and I'm gonna put on a stripe the clusters that

(59:56):
go underneath. They're cheaper and they look just as good.
So there, mm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I like, like, I got a really good like list
of good lashes from Amazon, like somebody keeping rotation heavily
that looked like, you know, they look good like individuals. Yeah,
it looks like men clashes. So I don't know, but
there's nothing like you just always look done with a

(01:00:21):
lash on, though, there's something about just having that last
you wake up in the morning. But then another thing
is I always feel like I cannot wash my face
good with them lashes on. Yeah, because you're gonna wash
them off, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Gotta wash around them. And I just like going like
this is you know, just like scrubbing my face and
you can't do that with the lash. So what's next, bitch,
because I'm gonna go with the gas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
That was the last so basic bullshit, Like why anybody
would like buy some shit instead of eating. I don't know.
I just don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
And you looked at that game and thought it was
fun because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
But there's some people listening right now who not even
listening right now, this is in my life. I begin
text messages I don't know, just because I don't have kids.
People think I got all this excess money, and I'm
here to tell y'all ps a, I do not. Okay, there,
I like spending money on house shit on me first
of all, on me, oh me, Yeah. So now I

(01:01:24):
get these text messages for like real money, and I'm like,
what what about me? Like what am I showing anybody
to make them think that I can just give this
out this month and not have to worry about it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I don't. Yeah. I don't like people who you see
them living in excess and then asking to borrow shit.
That's my exactly. It's like, oh, using me to supplicate supplement.
They want to borrow my money to do the ship
you should have done with yours that I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, and that's what be happening because you see how
they be moving and then argument.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Like they very very flashy, and then one of their
parents died and then they made a go fund me
to pay for it. And I'm like, really, because y'all
the way y'all live and buy expensive things and clothes
and designer everything, and all these lavish vacations and now

(01:02:20):
y'all can't afford to bury your parent is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Nobody had life insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Right, Like, it's weird. You got to tell someone in
Bags Beach because I don't know what to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
And that's the thing in the black community, like we
buying all the stuff and don't have life insurance on it, right,
you know what I'm saying. Like you can get a
real cheap policy on a young, healthy person, right, Ladies,
you got baby daddies, put some life insurance on them, niggas.
At least you get something in death.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Right and something don't get nothing in life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Hopefully it ain't soon and early in his life, but
at some point you're going to get paid back for
the heartache.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Right, So okay, you got anything else to add? Because
I got a dumbitch story.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
No, no, that's it, and I want I did want
to go through like a little budget thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
But yeah, well go ahead, because that's probably the best
information that they would get from this today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
It is not really even a budget for real. It's like,
I don't know, is this time that you be spending
on shit? Wag install two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I feel like this morning, Oh no, you just gonna
talk about how much bitch is spending though. I'm about
to do the dumb dist story. They know how, you know,
they fucking up, Bunny up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
We gotta tell them like before, like before we get
into the dumbest story. Y'all just noticed that our whole ship,
the whole economy is about to change. You better start
saving it money. Yeah, that that is really the gist
of it's conversation. Save your fucking money. Stop spending money
on bullshit. Stop eating out all the time. Like the

(01:03:51):
restaurants can't cook better than me. I'm always disappointed when
I go eat out. I be pissed every fucking time. Okay,
I took my uh people's out of his birthday. The
bill was almost like three hundred and fifty dollars or something.
Like that he didn't like his steak. He didn't like
his food. So that that bothers me because I know
I could have cooked a bomb ass steak at the house.

(01:04:12):
It gets steaked in head, I mean eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
No, you said it right, hour, go ahead, all right,
this number story is from sig. I ain't gonna say
your dad. You thought I was gonna say your dad.
Man here, all right, she said, keep my name confidenttional.
I don't know these bitches, d.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Give my name your motherfucker moum.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Okay. So hey, ladies, let me just start by saying
I absolutely love your podcast. I've been listening for a
little over a year now, but literally went back and
listened to every episode we talked to Your Girl. Only
reason I even listened to podcasts Now, I'll be bored
waiting until Thursday for a new episode. Lol. Thank you friend,
We love you too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Homegirl, Home Girl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
All right, let's get to the dirt. I remember when
I was in my early twenties. I'm at thirty now.
I was very infatuated with this young lady. I had
been Facebook friends with her for years, and I was
just so interested in the life she portrayed. I ended
up running into her at a party of a mutual friend,
and we actually hit it off. We hung out a

(01:05:15):
few more times with friends until she finally agreed to
let me take her out. We went out. She insisted
on picking me up. We had a great time. By
the end of the day we were being followed. The
repo man came and took her car. I wasn't approved
about it or anything. We went out again, We had
sex once, and I bought her a new car. She

(01:05:36):
stopped seeing me soon after I bought her the car. Standing,
I was goddamn is bye bitch's car? Right? Standing? I
was two dollar but had gotten into a relationship with
a mutual mutual friend I met through her. I met
her through So the girl got into a relationship with

(01:05:58):
a mutual friend that this person met through the girl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Okay, I get it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
So after all that, I continue to be friends with her,
giving her money now and then. And I'm the godmother
of her daughter. I'm a super simp bitch, but I
love my god baby. Lo ol.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Girl, that's your god baby.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Now, yep, that's her god baby. She got a baby.
I guess the girl got with a man. And I
asked her to be the godmother. Yeah, because you simping
you buying chip? Yes, you a god bo nice? Yeah
cause nice. I need a car, Listen, I want one
of them twelve hundred dollars month cars that AJ was
talking about. Can you give me one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Bitch said, you're giving out cars running Bitch, like, what right?
Let me find out. Let me find out. The ladies
be simpling the biggest tricks. Let me women are the
biggest tricks. That's why I don't want to stand what
men be talking about. Like and first of all, the
real gold diggers trick first. Obviously, I don't mind spending

(01:07:06):
money on the dude. I don't espectually.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I like about ways to buy you ship, Yes, and
I want to see you and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I want to smell you a certain way, absolutely, like
I want to the same way men be wanting to
make your life easier when they actually love you. That's
exactly how women come through for men, or women can
come through for you, exactly. Bitch, go ahead and get
you a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Girl just came through an email because I slid to
your das if you buy cards. Bitch, Hey, friends, I
love you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
She ain't trying to be no motherfucking friend. She probably
fuck with niggas now, and she's like, man, these bitches
be using people right. She went to man to man,
I wonder you're fucking with men now?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Let us know, right, come back to the other side.
It's rough over here too, though, bitch, I ain't gonna
hold you if you ain't came, just know it's rough
over here. What's your last list? Everywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I think I already pretty much gave it right. Get
y'all some fucking life assurance. Stop spending money on bullshit.
Get y'all some cryptocurrency. Okay, I think our financial I
work in the financial sector, so I could tell y'all
firsthand shit about to be different. By twenty thirty, it's
gonna look a whole lot different. And this year, damn

(01:08:23):
there over with so definitely setting us up for the
okie doke. If you think you're gonna keep putting money
under your mattress, that ain't gonna work. We're gonna be
wiping our ass on twenties. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
So okay, My thing is, you know, do the things
that definitely make you feel beautiful, but have balance. Don't
blow all your money on frivolous things. Don't blow all
your money on a Chloe belt. You don't need that belt.
You can get just a regular chain bilt and then

(01:08:55):
you know, and then get something else that you know
makes you feel good, and then save some It's gotta
be some balance. That's all I'm saying, you know. So
that's what I because I don't say like, don't go
around here walking around looking crazy because AJ said save
your money. I still want you to look nice.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Now you can look nice fashion over, don't put cotton
in it. Don't buy all that polyester.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Bull say boom.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
You can get some nice stuff uf of fashion Over.
You just gotta tell them what type of material you're
looking for it. That's how I shop a fashion over.
I put cotton or linen. Everything else is polyester, and
I'm in a lot of the high end designer stuff
be polyester too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
So you just got the good stuffs, not even it'll come.
It's like the bitch on the picture look nice and
then it come to you and looking like some shit.
You could have bought out the hairstore and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
They be having irregular shit, Like I gotta jump suit
in there right now. One leg a longer than the other.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah. So That's why I'm just like go and Revolve.
I like Revolve.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I love Revolved. I got so much shit in my man.
I got like a million dollars worth of shit in
my little You need to have a yards.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Hell, That's what I keep saying. I need to have, Like,
I just need to find a way to sell all this.
It's so much shit with tags on it. I can't
even feel. I don't go nowhere for it. Like I
just need to sell a haus shmark that I thought
would be cute on me and then you look up
woy about that. That's not for me, and sty'll be
changing anyway. We're getting off on the tangent, y'all. We

(01:10:24):
say your ship so we can go bitch.

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