September 4, 2025 • 54 mins
In this episode of We Talk Back, AJ Holliday and Tam Bam unpack a mix of cultural and personal themes, weaving their weekend reflections into a deeper conversation about relationships, loyalty, and shifting values. They explore the public perception of marriage in light of Offset’s recent controversial comments, while also examining the concept of snitching within hip hop culture and the fading relevance of street credibility in today’s society. They highlight the importance of family, accountability, and moving away from destructive cycles toward building healthier, more positive community values.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
who talks back.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's up, y'all, it's your grade a bay a j holiday.
Let's start tandem, y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's me Tammam. I love y'all so very very much.
How was your weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't do much. Do y'all feel like fall came
fucking early? Because why is it like extra breezy outside?
It was kind of warm this weekend, but it was
definitely cool. I probably could have flown my kite my kites,
but yeah, I ain't do much for the Labor Day weekend, relaxed,
chill shop, some deals, fashion over half fifty percent off.
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it was a lot of good sales this weekend.
It was Raquel's birthday. Shout out to my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Cow with cal so many years.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
She had like a little cookout. So I went over
to that and that was a good time. We was
playing past the ox. Nobody liked none of my music
except for maybe like once or twice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Happened into me too. I'm like, y'all just ratchet. Yeah,
I like I got old school ship.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, we were doing a lot of old school stuff,
but they just didn't want to hear what I wanted
to hear. And then I played one song that just
came out by Big X the Plug on his new album,
and they was like, yeah, that's some ship. You need
to listen it to the car by yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So wait, what what what was you trying to play
aside from now? Because I haven't heard that song?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I hope you're happy by Big EXT the Club it's
country and Big X it's Luke Kohm's in Big Club.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
They didn't want to hear that shit. But yeah, we
had a good time drinking and eating and talking shit. Yeah,
and we drank some rare Lee bray. You know, everybody
really enjoyed it. So I posted that on the story
everybody had. That's a nice shotow rare Lee Bray. Y'all
try it when you get a chance. But that was
my weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It sounds good. I don't do much again, same shit,
you know. I just feel like I didn't get no
sleep this weekend either, Like I was up.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Your boo was in town y.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We're not gonna be mentioned in my boo every episode okay, well, okay,
I'll let you know offline if he is. No. I
was very upset about it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All right, let's get in the sands.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, okay, Now I know everybody has been seeing not
even the back and forth. Cam Newton is like almost
like he specializes in embarrassing Jasmine Brown. You know, I
just feel like he does. I don't know how everybody
(03:02):
else feels, but it just every time he opens his
mouth up. Anytime somebody asked him about his relationship recently,
I forgot who was on the show who he was interviewing,
but they or maybe he was on somebody else's show,
but they asked him basically like, are y'all even dating?
Imagine somebody asking your baby daddy, you're pregnant with his
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second child, with your second child with him, because he
technically this is his eighth kid on the way, right,
and I think he has two kids that he raised,
you know, from his ex from his ex child, right exactly, Chah,
But imagine somebody asking, like, are y'all like at least dating? Like, yeah,
she lives there, but why won't you put a title
(03:46):
on it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think she knew what she signed up for with
that nigga though, especially with kid Too.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah, I really think she thought she was gonna
get a different type of treatment. I really think, because
do you remember do you remember, like do you were
you ever watching Jazzmine Brown, like back before Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, she was like funny. She was like funny, right,
And a.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Lot of her commentary was like anti Pygneicia. You know
what I'm saying, basically making fun of women in this
same type of situation. You signing up for it, and
you do ran into the fucking thanos of modern women,
and he'd turned you into a Pygneicia.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Damn, that's crazy. I don't know. I don't but their
post that she made is a bit telling, or we
would assume. So Jasmine Brown made a post that said
transparency moment, and she says, if God gave me a son,
I'd be so nervous because I feel like I subconsciously
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raise him to be a man I can only dream
of but never experience. And that's traumatic.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah. So a lot of people have been reading into
that and feel like it suggests that she is now
like having a come to moment and realizing the depths
of what she has got herself. Involved with. And I
also saw some people ripping her like, oh, I don't
feel bad for her. And I saw one comment say,
(05:25):
while she's worrying about the type of man she is raising,
she needs to be concerned about the type of woman
she's raising too, mm hmm, because your daughter gonna get
the same type of treatment you receive essentially whatever they see.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right. That makes me think of Yah Yah Mayweather and
Floyd Mayweather, you know, because she seemed like she like
settles with NBA boy a lot. Perhaps I don't want to,
you know, speak out a turn because I really don't
(06:01):
know their relationship, but I always wonder what type of
woman she would turn out to be, with her father
being someone who seemingly was a womanizer, and out of
all the men that she could have fell in love with,
young boy seems like he's very you know, lost lost
(06:25):
out here, so mental health issues and all kinds of
things going on. But that's just me speculating. I don't
know what they got going.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I mean I think also a part of it
is just like who he is, right, he's one of
the biggest rap artists out here. I'm saying, your dad
is one of the biggest athlete athletes out here. And
I don't know if that's the type of lifestyle she chasing,
that's the type of man you're gonna end up with.
I would think that. I mean, her mom seems like
(06:53):
a well drownded person, but I don't know. Maybe they
didn't raise her right.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well. More power to all those people, you know, hopefully
it didn't work out in their favor. That's all I
can say. Shit, I ain't got no niggas, so I
can't even talk. That's how I feeling like we Remimedy man,
a good man in the name of Jesus say man,
speaking of having a man in marriage and things like that.
(07:23):
Offset was on the Philsen podcast and he said that
he thinks that other men should not be married. So
the thirty one year old podcast host asked him what
advice did he have for him. Did well, he suggests
that he not be married, and he said, don't do it.
You know, it's just not he said. At first, he said,
(07:43):
I mean, you can try it out, but really, honestly,
you shouldn't do it. And he was like, you just
lose yourself in a marriage, basically is what he said.
You have to prioritize in a commedary. Else Yeah, other people,
and I guess it's just bad.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Apparently offset he was on a podcast called Philson Podcast, right,
and then there was a red car, but I don't
know where that was, what event that wasn't that was?
I think it was the either the Shade Room or
maybe Hollywood unlocked people. They were asking different men in
the industry. You had Tie Dollar Sign.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Anthony Hamila married for twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Years, Anthony Hamilton a grown ass man with adult children
at this point from maybe his marriage so and a
lot of them had a lot of positive things to
say about marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, they all supported marriage, even even when his eyes
looking all black, was like, you know what I mean,
he married a good thing, and sh.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I just think you know, Tie dollar Sign made a
very good point and uh he said that, you know,
people don't realize like how like the we don't have
any money in the black community, the black dollar last
one second, mm hmm, And I say, we don't have money.
We make lots of money, but we are the consumers, right,
(09:06):
so we we are not We're not gonna We're gonna
continue to be in the position we are in society
until we put back the emphasis that needs to be
on family.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, that was vic Mensa was like you know the
uh oh right, okay, yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No Actually it was tied at a sign, but they
had the captions wrong at the top. Remember I said
that when we were looking at it, they had the
captions wrong at the top of the conversations. So the
person's name didn't match what they said.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But that's the Oh so that wasn't him talking when
he said that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was tied out of shang so and that and
that's just the truth because I think that a lot
of black men don't realize and like Anthony Hamilton, Hamilton said,
the type the covering you get when you're in a
marriage women a good woman like men think they have
to wait until they get their bag together and all
that shit to get married. That shit will come once
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you get a wife. Like if y'all want to pull
anything else out the Bible, it says he who finds
a wife finds a good thing. That's where your money's
gonna come from. If that's what you that's all you
you know, trying to do, that's where he's going to
come from. You gotta get a woman. You gotta get
a wife. You got to start a family, because that's
going to give you the motivation to get to where
you're going. Like you can't do it by yourself. This
(10:28):
life is built off of double occupancy. Yep, you know
what I'm saying. I agree, So I don't agree with
all said. So you basically you got three kids with
Cardi B. At this point, he's just a man's scorn
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's what I think. He's a man scorn. He's hurt
and he don't have nothing positive to say about marriage
because he just you know, he just went through it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
We'd be saying a lot of positive things about Cardi B.
A lot of times he'd be like, yeah, I fucked up,
you know what I'm saying when somebody actually ask him.
But you know, if he's behind the phone, eating and ship,
he'd be saying a lot of.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Rat You know, he bitter right now. You know he
bitter about it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Don't know the picture of Mari the other day.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He just like might be a major band, right he
likes taunting her?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Who do that? But a bitter nigga? Who want to talk? Taunt?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Mean person? Just a mean person? He don't necessarily have
to be bitter. I really don't feel like he liked
Cardi b from the beginning because I remember an interview
when they first started dating and somebody asked him if
he loved her, and he basically basically alluded to the
fact that he got with her because he saw where
she was heading at. That was the gist of what
he was saying, Like she hard working, like it was
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nothing about love, it was nothing about wanting a family
with him. I remember Cardi be being on the Breakfast Club,
and she knew exactly when she wanted children, and she
knew exactly when when she wanted to be married, right,
and she did those things. She chose a man and
she try to make a husband out of him, But
that nigga is exactly who who he is from day one.
This is somebody else's baby daddy.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think women be tricking themselves and they thinking that
they gonna get better treats because it's because it's me,
no bitch like you get You're gonna get the same treatment.
Until a man is ready to change. There's nothing you
can do and change that man. And that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, Unfortunately, but I mean sometimes I feel like sometimes
men do change when they get a little older and
take some wisdom and time, and they'll get you might
get a different nigga. You might. You know, I don't
seen women go through the trenches with a nigga and
I mean come out clean on the other side sometimes,
but it's rare.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Heavily bruised, heavily get up and bruised, and they look
older than the man by the time they come out
on the other side. Y'all, don't let don't let don't
let the men steal your youth because we are the
empaths we are. They take from us, right, so we
give them the life and energy to do all the things,
(13:08):
and then you'd be depleting yourself. So doing it for
the right person in your family, not some fucking nigga
who don't even consider you. For real, We're making major
life events like they gonna put a baby on you,
in you and that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, I agree. Did you see Cardi B was leaving
the courtroom. Cardi B was leaving the courtroom, y'all, and
a reporter asked her about her getting a paternity test
for Stefan Diggs and this bitch threw our phone at
this nigga. Quick me, I'm talking about realick. She's literally
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walking out of court for assault when a security guard
and assaulted somebody else outside the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Girl, I don't even fuck with y'all say. Cardi B
is a real nigga times ten, even though she says
she and black me neither bitch like. She's literally in
court because she assaulted a security guard at the hospital
when she went for a doctor's appointment when she was
pregnant before. I feel like she's I think this is
gonna get thrown out. I don't even know why this
(14:15):
is such entertainment, Like what are y'all distracting us from
with this bullshit? Right because basically, the lady was out
of place. She was out of bounds taking videos and
photo of Cardi B. Cardi B asked her to stop,
you know, so, yeah, pregnant woman, I'm gonna blame everything
on her hormones and shit, I'm pregnant again now. I
just watched the video of her yawning in the courtroom
(14:36):
right with Cardi B. This bitch has been pregnant for
three years. She is not having it right now. She's
fucking mad.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, I don't think that's a good idea to hit
somebody else and be back in court mixed.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She got a lot of fucking money, right, I.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Get what she was saying, like, don't be asking me
disrespectful questions. She hasn't even announced that she's pregnant. You
talking about the fraternity tests, like, get on her face? So,
I mean, I get it, But.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Speaking are real niggas about fraternity tests for one of
the existing babies?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh? Maybe maybe, but either way, she wasn't having that year,
she said me. But speaking of real niggas. So ah
came up with this one, y'all. And I think this
is a really good topic because it's been a conversation
going around, buzzing around lately. The streets is dead? Is
(15:37):
that true or not? Streets?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The streets been?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, they made a statement, They asked a question. They said,
the streets is dead. But we're gonna talk about it.
Is it really true?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It been there as far as I'm concerning. We'll talk
about it when we come back after this break.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, did y'all follow the young Thug trial at all?
Did you followed it all?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I did a little bit just for Woody. Woody was
funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He just recently got into accident on the motorcycles.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah he did. I saw that. But he's okay, so
that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
One of my cousins, man, she was watching this ship
like a daytime soap opera. So I found myself like
tuning in periodically to see what the fuck was up.
Just being nosy personally because I have had my own
shit in the past. I do not like to really
get involved in other people's legal issues. Yeah, okay, most
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real niggas ain't getting involved. Don't even want to hear about,
don't even want to know about what somebody else is
going through in the court system. M but hey, so
now it's public, and now there's the great debate about
rather or not the streets is daddy, you know, and
hip hop they've always upheld this no snitch and shit,
(16:54):
which eighty percent of people in prison snitched?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right, so let's define the word, like what is
a snitch to you?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Can I finished my talking?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, all right, go ahead, I'm sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Forgot what I was trying to say. Okay, eighty percent
of people in prison probably cooperated and the twenty percent
that didn't usually have the most time.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, that's what I was trying to say, and I
would have finished and stopped.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Okay. So what is a snitch to you?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Uh? Personally? To me, a snitch? This is my personal
definition of a snitch. Like, say, for instance, you and
I together and matter of fact, we're not even together.
If somebody gets arrested for some shit and then they
start telling on things that have nothing to do with
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the reason that they were arrested, to me, that's a snitch.
So now you're cooperating, you're giving out names and situations
of other things to get time reduction. To me, that's
a snitch.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I got arrested when I was twenty for driving or
driving with a suspended license, right, and I'm in what's
the jail in Columbia, Alvin? Yeah, Yes, I was there.
They had no room for the amount of people that
was there, so they had men and women like in
a holding area all night long. Right, So might I
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might have got there like two o'clock in the afternoon
and didn't get out to like four o'clock in the
morning on a fucking PR bond. But this is a
very very interesting experience. And I distinctively remember a guy
on the phone yelling and talking loud and cussing somebody's
mom out because apparently he lets somebody drive his car.
That person commits a murder in his car. He's driving
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a car, so he gets pulled over and taking into
for custy, and now he is calling them like, hey,
I'm giving your son twenty four hours to come down
here and turn their self in because I'm not going
to jail for that shit. M that's not snitching.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I feel like the person on the outside, come free me.
You know I don't do that shit, So why are
you gonna let me take twenty years for you, years
of my whole life for you. Like the no snitching
shit never made sense to me, And I feel like
snitching is only okay when you need one. Like if
somebody family member get murdered, they want to know who
the fuck did it?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Right, Yeah, I don't know if that remember.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Murder somebody else, they don't want nobody snitching, right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Snitching is to me is like if you're involved in
some shit and you are telling just to save yourself.
But if you are a law biding citizen, and you
witness a crime and you inform the police on what
you witness. You are not a snitch. You are a
citizen of your community and you're trying to keep it safe.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're a civilian.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, and that's it, you know. I don't think that's snitching.
So like, please, if you see somebody kill my cousin,
please tell you know, please?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, everybody hate a snitch until they need one. I
remember when Gunnar first had gotten out and everybody was
calling him a snitch, right, mm, Gunna got out on
like this thing called alf Alfred plea. Basically, it's like,
let me, let me see exactly what the fuck the
Alfred Alfred Please, that's what he I remember watching, like
(20:24):
when he hold on a second, hold on? All right,
So the Alphord plea allows the defendant to enter a
guilty plea while still maintaining their innocence. It's a tactical
decision made when a defendant believes the prosecution's evidence it's
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too strong to risk a trial, but they don't want
to admit guilt. So now, I don't think the state
ever had a strong case any of these niggas. Like
if everybody just shut the fuck up, up and let
the police do their job. Most of these cases get
thrown out. It is because of the cooperation of people
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that they're even able to build cases oftentimes right. So,
when he first got out, I remember I commented on
a post somebody was calling him a snitch, and I said,
you know what I said, most of y'all are civilians.
You don't know what you will do if you were
to be in this situation.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I know exactly what I would mean. I know exactly
what I would do, and that's why I don't commit crime.
I don't participate in crime. If I'm thinking, what a nigga,
who's a criminal, I'll be like, look, don't tell me shit.
I don't want to know shit about nothing you're doing.
Don't tell me how you do it, don't tell me
how you got it. Because when the police asked me
what I know, I want to say I don't know
shit and be telling the truth. You know. So, yeah,
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I'm because if I get in trouble, y'all going to
see me right in with my arms my sleeves, my
arms in my sleeves like this with a chicken in
front of me, because I'm not going to jail.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The Orange.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm not going to jail. I'm not the girl, and
that's why I don't commit crimes because I'm not her.
I saw this thing. Me and my friend was talking
about it. If your man was facing twenty years and
you could do three for his crime, would you do
to three so he don't do twenty? No? Hell no,
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I'm not doing it. My best friend said she would
do it. Oh, you a better bitch than me, because
first of all, I don't encourage no man to be
participating in criminal activity that will get him locked up
away from me and our family. Do find some legitiate
to do. There's a lot of legitiate you can be doing.
But what I'm not gonna do is be away from
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my kids and my family for three years because of
what you chose to do with your life. No, I'm
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think most women are in prison because they cover
the man. A lot of women are in p shit.
They did not do being a real bitch, down bottom bitch,
and they took the charge for a man. That's why
I don't understand. Like the argument with Tory Lanez and
Meg thee Stallion and the homegirl Kelsey. So now like
the thing is is that Kelsey actually shot Meg thea stallion.
I know you've seen that theory, right, And and Tory
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Lanez basically took the charge. When did have y'all ever
seen a man take a charge for a woman when
usually they trying to throw drugs in a bitch purse.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I've seen her like that. I literally saw this shit
today about this woman. She was talking about how she
was in love with this man. They were in love
with each other and she got in trouble, they got
pulled over. If he got the charge, he was gonna
do a whole bunch of time because he had he
was a third would have been a third time of
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fit like that. But she never had no charges, so
she was like, I'm gonna take the charge for you.
And she was like she was thinking, because I never
had no charge, I wasn't gonna do no time. She
said no, the judge and was like, I'm gonna make
an example of you. And she got eight years eight
years in prison, and then she said, after two years
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of serving time, the nigga stopped taking her calls, stop
sending her money, stop putting money on her boat, stop
taking her caws, and then end up working with a
homegirl of hers and they had a baby together. So
she came home and the niggas she said, before the
baby was born. He ended up getting in trouble again
for the same shit. But and he got ten years.
(24:30):
But she had to sit down for eight whole years.
She had to do the whole eight before she could
come home.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, and that's that's best bullshit. That is a lot
of women's stories in prison. So men have community of
holes to take care of them, to take phone calls
depending on what type of money you had on the streets, right,
you're gonna and then not even that, they get on
those dating links and stuff like that, and they want
be the fat white lady to take care of them.
Like men be having shit set up. Women really be
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in prison with nobody.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Me and mama.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know what I'm saying. I used to always be.
I was enamored at one point. I just always want
to know the reason why people were going to jail,
like the psychology of this, So I would sit for hours.
Like Houston, if you go on their website, they actually
have like the last words for like people they execute
and shit like that their last statements. It's real airy
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and I just always would just go through to see
what are people going to jail for, like what's the
most like what's happening? And women a lot of times
if in Texas in particular, they'll have like the whole
we can read the whole case. These women be going
to jail for men, So the women don't snitch. Women
are way more loyal than men are. It's just facts.
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So snitching has always been a thing. Like I think,
like the no snitching rule, I should probably started with
the mob, right. You know, black men love to name
themself after some mob boss, right, and like Lucci, Gucci,
whoever else? You know what I'm saying. Like, and now
(26:07):
I was so like confused researcher trying to figure out
what the fuck was going on with Young the Gun
and all these people you got p on following on Instagram.
There are white people with a million views on YouTube
talking about this ship calling Atlanta rat Atlanta. Like, imagine,
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y'all are not off the culture. Y'all ain't even in
the streets. So this is the bullshit y'all trying to uphold.
And you got people making, you know how much money
they making off a million views? We can't even capitalize
off of snitcheon snitching or not snitching. That's not ship,
(26:52):
Like what are y'all doing it for at this point?
So to me, the streets been there, and I just
really want to redefine what a real nigga is. Real
nigga is somebody who takes care of their fucking family,
who's not about to crash out one second spliting motion,
you know what I'm saying, and leave children behind, leave
their woman behind, lead their whole family behind, or just
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even just getting murdered in the street, murdering somebody else.
You take our two niggas at one time when somebody
kills another, when a black man kills another black man, right,
so one going to prison one dad?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Right? Uh? At one point, so real nigga meant something
like someone solid, respecting in the streets and lived what
they wrapped and upheld the quote and I put that
in quotations the code. But I think the standard for
a real nigga has evolved very much in our today's society.
So now it's not about crime or street times, it's
about authenticity of self for real, Like you got like
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people like Kendrick Lamar and Jake Cole and even drink
at times, Like who pushed vulnerability and healing and emotional honesty.
And I think that's a different kind of real that
really stands out now versus just being on some street
cred ship.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, and I think young Thug this is the this
is the I think what he represents the young thug
archaeotype of a black man, of a real nigga. I
believe this is an end. This has always been a facade.
Nigga's been snitching. There has really never been any street code,
no principles. These young guys, the skinny jean wearing niggas
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like they they've been on this type of time, Young Thug.
All of all these phone calls was with Maria the scientist,
him like venting to her about other niggas, like just
real real chatty patty shit.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You on the phone with the scienceist talking about.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
All probably just sitting there like yes, baby like her
baby like she listens to all that. Daddy, am I
her baby.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Red she cleared her through.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'd be doing that shit randomly on the phone sometimes, Daddy,
am I your baby girl? I know she probably sitting
lay like how you laying next to this nigga? Hein't
no real nigga, Like, why you laying next to him now?
How you feel about him right now?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I don't think she probably think he's the realist
nigga living. If she's in love with him, she doesn't
care what nobody say. You know how that be when
you're in love with a man.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, So is that tweet real? The tweet where he
was saying like, can't nobody like basically saying everybody gay
in Atlanta and can't nobody come around little baby with
skinny jeans on? Did somebody create that?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't know if that was real. It was funny, though, I.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Want to know if that was real. So in one
of the phone calls, she was talking shit about about PE,
basically saying like he you know p is P and
coach K they were the owners of Quality Control. I
believe they sold that shit for like three hundred m's
one hundred million dollars in twenty twenty three. So young
(30:10):
Thugs basically saying like he's a snitch. Also right, so
qc P he uh went to Instagram, he said imagine
some broke ass rats like and he actually at young
thug pee wee rat skull trying to run a rat
narrative on me and all my niggas that I love
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running with. These whole ass whole Let me back up,
trying to run a rat narrative on me and all
my niggas that I love running with.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I couldn't understand that shit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I think there's no periods, no no punk.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No punk punctuation whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, so he said, these whole ass niggas. Knowing how
these niggas talk about me, I'm going to say this
for the last time. I'm not a street nigga, Okay.
I'm a tax paying citizen that's running a business and
taking care of my family. All the street niggas is broke,
dead and in jail. Why do y'all continue to glorify
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this shit? Street's been dead, y'all niggas gave the city
a bad name. Now, this is a real street.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Nigga, right, he said, he ain't no street nigga, he said,
I'm a He said he is a real nigga. I'll
say that this is a real.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Nigga, okay, because, like I said, real men take care
of their families m hm. And they're not out here
crashing out like young thug has ruined the city of Atlanta,
for sure. He had a lot of young men that
went to prison, got a lot of time. He was
definitely the given direction. A lot of niggas crashed out,
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a lot of young boys, a lot of young guys
were murdered. Like even though they they couldn't pinpoint everything
on him. He's not innocent, He's not this and at all.
He took a plea deal because he had the money
to do so. But what about goddamn tyrone who grandma,
who was raised by his grandma, His grandma don't got
no money for his defense.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, there's one hundred years and then you get enough
pussy on money outside and you are Yeah, and there's
just consequences of street rap. We see it. You know,
it's been consequences for over a decade. You're gonna end
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up dead, You're gonna end up jail. You're gonna be
fighting rico cases like mm hmm, let's let that go,
you know, let's let that and then all right, so no.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Money, you're not making any money Like that's that's really
the mind boggling part. Like y'all haven't even lived enough,
you haven't had enough experiences for real, most of these guys,
and they just crash out real young, real early. And
I do blame some of the older men, the older guys,
because they'll they'll employ the young boys to crash out
for them.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
M h.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's terrible. So that that archetype needs to die as well.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And with the globalization of hip hop, like hip hop
is the biggest genre in the world right now, you
got Asian rappers, Latin American United Kingdom doing anything, and
none of them like even understand or have not indocrinated
the street rules. That's no longer a thing. These niggas
want to have. They want to fly luxury and lifestyle,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Living vicuriously through these crash dummies, so they can rap
and have you know, they can actually rap about the
same shit, but they're not actually doing it because they're
smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or they rapping about what wealth and love and shit
like that. They're not even rapping about those street shit.
It's terrible, and they're and those and that type of
music is outperforming drill music. Let's be clear, you know
they are performing. You know, the.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Drill music really didn't only lasted like what a summer or.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Two it's still drilling out terrible. The all the drill
used to be dying so fast, you know, like the
turnover rate is high. The turnover rate is very high
for this ship, or not even just dying. They going
to jail. What's the dirt?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'm not even talking about Dirk. I really feel like
young Thum might have something to do with why he
handed him up right now, because remember he beats some
charges like twenty two to twenty three and basically he
uh blamed everything on what's the one that passed away?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Listen, I don't know all these drill.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, you know Auntie the nigga who I know what
you're talking about. Yeah, but I can't put my finger
on his name right now if I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Turn Yeah, this conversation is definitely just coming from grown
women who will be raising children in this fucking world.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, like if you talked to twenty two year olds,
the conversation might be very different, you know. Like, but
you niggas.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm sick of you niggas. There are black people and
there are niggas, You niggas. Okay, everybody ain't gonna make
it right. Everybody ain't gonna make it, and the real
black people need to stand up. This is we cannot
keep going after other other groups of people like we
can't keep blaming them man, right when we are doing
this to our own people. At some point we got
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to take accountability because really it's always been us. Even
the things that they do, they would would have never
been able to infiltrate our communities and the way they
do if they didn't have the help of a black
person of a black.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Man, right and the support. Yeah, so the.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Blame and then why you So they're snitching like in
the streets, and then there's like whistle blowing, whistle blowing
in corporate like which whistleblowers are selling braided Often that
is a snitch? Is it not a bitch tailing on
you at work?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
But no, it depends. It depends because it's not snitching,
because it's only snitching in if you were involved in
the activity and then you started telling to save yourself.
If you see some practices that are being violated, especially
ones that can affect everybody, and you tell, are you
a snitch?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
These white YouTubers stick to the whistle blowing conversations, y'all
are y'all are not in the streets to be calling
a black person a snitch, right, I should rub me
the wrong way. Even though these niggas is snitching. It
just rubs me the wrong way that these people are
monetizing this conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But snitches do not, in fact get stitches six nine
his name. He walking around perfectly fine, you know, So
where are the stitches that everybody he was saying all
these years that people were gonna get It was a lie.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Whack one hundred Takashi sixty nine. Academics, Lord and somebody
else was like going on alive, like talking about the
shit that's going I don't know how to fuck. Academics
stays in the midst of all us because the nigga
doesn't leave his home like he's in the basement streaming,
so he too is just not a street nigga. But
for whatever reason, he just always has like commentary for
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whatever is going on, and a lot of people tune
in to hear.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We done did the research and got all the information.
I think that's why they enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
But no, he put he actually also then feeds information
like as far as I'm concerned, DJ Academics is an
agent of the state, like some of the like him
h Vlied TV, like all of these characters. They are
employed by by these people, the man, as far as
I'm concerned, and they have in our community.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Non day plans. See, I don't know. I don't follow
none of these motherfucking people. I'll be over here waiting
for Devilware's product you to come out. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
This is a life lifestyle podcast, right we gotta be
a brisk aware of some of the shit that be
going on so we can have conversations about these things,
anxiety and lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I agree, but this ain't my wheelhouse right here, all
these reco cases and crime. I'm so far If you
would have asked me this about ten years ago, I
probably would have known more about it. But at this
state in my life, this ship is not on my
It don't come across my desk at all. I'm so
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far removed from that. I be in a car listening
to R Kelly. Y'all don't judge me, let do So
there's that.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
What did he do? Now? I don't know. It's a
I don't know. I do discriminate, okay, like I don't.
It's certain brands I don't funk with after I hear
you do certain things. You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh,
it's people, I don't I stop sucking with. I haven't
drunk Starbucks ever since they hemmed up those two black
boys and they're uh how many years ago was that
that they racially profiley, And it's I don't fuck with you.
(39:19):
I don't fuck with waffle House, So I.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Don't fuck with like I don't funk with what R.
Kelly did or his behavior, but I do fuck with
his music. Why do I have to?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like, I don't separate?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
How why do I have to? Yeah, like, you don't separate?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, he is?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
He is.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Listen you listen to some of the lyrics and those songs.
You know what I'm saying, seems like you're read at girl?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Are you ready? I was listening to the greatest sex,
the greatest you, the greatest he that's a oh my god,
Like I cannot put it down.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm so sorry. I want I might smash on that
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Like I wouldn't let out of the
world like just because it might fend to other people,
But can I listen to it about myself? You know?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's still on iTunes. Apple ain't taking down.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
He's still making money.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
So I don't know kills one of the best to
ever do it, y'all. I'm sorry to forgive me.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I swear let's do some hypothetical situations, and you do
in the situation. So, uh, you're riding.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm telling you, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're riding with your cousin. There's a gun in the car.
You didn't know about it. Police pull y'all over what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I'm staying quiet. I ain't saying she like, does she do?
Can't she speak?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
She got autius on a song. She don't talk.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm gonna be staying with that lady in the court
on the court episode. But you're staring off in the here.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
But that's me, bitch. I can't speak. I don't talk.
She don't talk. She don't talk. She don't know how
to talk. That's my cousin. She don't talk. I'm quiet.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
How everybody, if there's like a recal situation, if everybody
really for real, if everybody just be quiet, like oftentimes
they don't even have a case. The case is built
off of what people tell.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Me saying yeah, I'm not saying shit. I'm deaf, mute.
I don't know, I don't I don't speak, I don't
do I can't talk right, I have the words out
of me.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Uh, your co worker is stealing checks and payroll is short?
You know your co worker is stealing checks?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Are we cool? Is this my cool coworker?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Cause y'all cannot pick and choose. Bitch, you are actually
an accomplice if you know this person is doing this
thing and you don't report it.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
How I know? How can you prove? I know?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I just asked the question. I said, your co worker
is stealing checks and payroll is short. Your co worker
is stealing checks? You know your co workers stealing checks?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know. Shit, I don't know what the fuck
you're talking about. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
When they pull her in HR, they be like, well,
Tammy knew.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Tammy didn't know shit. Tammy was at her desk minding
her business. Hi, I knew if I didn't get no
check from her? How I knew where my check in
while we in here.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Let me tell y'all in the story. Y'all, in high school,
I had this teacher. I'm gonna say his name to
his name is mister Sheely. You missed it. I don't
know if he's alive now. I don't know if it's
social studies, no science, it was actually science. I had
an a in the class. Mister Sheely would do and
say some questionable shit. I remember one day I was like,
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mister Sheeley, man, you need to go ahead and cut
that hair off because he was a playful teacher. You
know you got some cool teachers. I said, you need
to go ahead and go ahead and go completely bad
man what you're doing? And he said, I bet I
got more hair on Mike than you got on your
He didn't say the words, but like he nod like down.
(42:59):
I got an a in the cl maybe a couple of
weeks later, did you was failing the class?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Hold on? Bitches?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Who was failing the class went to the went to
the principal right saying that he had been sexually harassing him. Right,
y'all fail in the class though?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
So now everybody getting together? Who failing? And now all
of a sudden, he's like sexually harassing people. I put
my name on the list to come and testify. Essentially, girl,
I got up now nothing, never heard of anything.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I got an a bitch. But if you saw a
teacher sexually harassing young students, I never seen it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Happen to anybody else. I knew what I experienced, but
I never saw him do or say anything else sideway
as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Okay, yeah, just mind your business man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I mind my fucking business one because I got an
A and two of y'all, bitch, I know some.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Of you, but if you had as would you have
joined in.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I wasn't gonna be failing anyway. Y'all know I probably
still wouldn't up joining if I had an f I
deserved it.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Okay, but these is motherfuckers who ain't doing shit in
the class anyway. And now you want to say that
you want to.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But he still was inappropriate and he don't need to
be around young children.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It is so crazy. Like maybe three or four years
after I got out of high school, I went to
my one of my best friend's high school graduation. So
now I'm like, I don't know, twenty two twenty three
and one of our and this was actually the social
studies teach, and I can now remember his name, mister
Polliard mister motherfucking Pollard. He had like this red knot
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on this. Hey, you know, white people be having all
these little weird growths on him. But I'm at her graduation.
They do, they do be having like weird notts and
lumps and stuff. I'm at her graduation. He hugs everybody,
and when he gets to me, he kisses me on
my fucking and I'm standing there like and everybody looking
(45:03):
at me like, and you know what he's said. I
always wanted to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Do that inappropriate, Go to jail. Go to jail.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You always wanted to do that. I just got to
a high school a couple of years ago. You were
my teacher. What the fuck is happening?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But you've grown now? I don't heard that, Oh you've
grown now. Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I have actually had like a school resource office to
try to haul at me, like a couple of years
out of high school for sure. At the mall.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, I don't listen. I got some stories about them
resource offices. Yeah. But anyway, but here's the back to
your scenariotion scenario though, because if I was employed by
a company, and y'all might be mad at me by this,
but if it was a black girl stealing the chicks.
I would just be like, bitch, you better stop. You
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about to get in trouble. But it was a white
man stealing the chicks. I'm telling I don't know why
I would do that. What why pay roll is short? Bitch?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Payroll? That mean other employee checks are short because she's
stealing the checks. I'm telling you, taking money out of
everybody else's pocket.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I don't want to tell on a black woman.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
She might be taking your check.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
So now in order for it has to affect you directly. See,
that's where the street no snitch shit never makes sense
to me. People going to snitch when it's affecting them directly,
But if it's somebody else's family, they don't see the
need to snitch. All stop snitching. Free my nigga, Like
your nigga is a demon out here.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Okay, no, I get it, But I'm just saying, like,
what y'all doing that y'all can't find out how I know,
And y'all don't know, y'all somebody up here not doing
their job, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I
know if I.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Know, other people know, right, So this is the last one.
The cops come to you with an ultimatum, talk or
take the charge.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
An ultimatum. I need to hear it charge. I'm never
taking the charge. I don't care what happened. I'm never
taking no charge. If it don't belong to me, I'm
not taking it. If it's mine, I'll own it, but
it's never gonna be mine. Because I am a law body,
I am terrified to be in anybody's jail. So yes, no,
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I'm not taking no charge. I can't think of a
scenario where I would need to take.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
A charge your child.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I can't think of a scenario where I would need
to because that's exactly why I'm not If I have
a kid, I'm not tattooing my kid's name on me
like these motherfuckers grow up and disappointing you and.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Now like I'm everybody is their own individual person. I'm
not taking a charge. You know right from wrong.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I raised you. I'm you're going to jail. I'm gonna
take it like I'm gonna put money on your books
and I'm gonna come see you. But I'm not taking
no charge for you. Hell No, I am not fair
kind of mother. Why would you work? Why would you
want your mama in jail for you? You are sick. What
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kind of nigga gonna let their mama go to jail
for them?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
That's what I'm trying to understand. Like even older men
letting young boys take charges for them too, because they
think because they're younger, you're not gonna get as much time.
It's just like, to me, that's that's not love. No, y'all,
don't give a fuck about it. Any That's a lot,
a whole lot of selfishness in the streets. Yea, that's
all it is. Everybody's for themselves, Okay, so be for yourself.
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Do what's best for you. You'll be out here crashing out
for the next nigga because they will not crash out
for you. Women, don't be out here waiting for these
niggas to come home, especially if they ain't your husband. Okays,
they're gonna come home. They're gonna get somebody pregnant the
same fucking year they get out of jail. Yeah do
I I'm always speaking from experience, Okay, it's not current
(48:57):
right because I learned from my lessons, right, But don't
don't don't do it's best for you.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Always yeah. Make And you know what, if you think
waiting on the nigga to come home from jail is
best for you, then do that too, but just be
willing to suffer the consequences of that, to live with
the consequences of that, whatever that is. It might turn
out to be fair. Not likely, but it might. You know,
you love giving hose hope. I do. I listen because
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I romantic, because I have to keep hope alive. You
know what I'm saying, That's my job out here.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I would say, more often than not, things are not
going to go the way you would like them to go, right,
So do what's best for you. That is my last
last Or if taking the charge for a nigga is
what's best for you, so be it. Don't cry. I
don't even think people realize like the toll it takes
on a family when somebody goes to prison, especially the mother,
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and everybody's in jail with you, you call you become
a bill. You know what I'm saying, Like, people stop answering,
people stop writing. I don't know why we glorify as shit.
I remember my ex, one of his homeboys said basically
like he wished he had like the type of clout
my ex had without having to go to prison. Why
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are we glorifying niggas who spent a quarter they fucking
life in jail anyway?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Just not cool. Oh let me say that. I'm sorry, Millennium.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
It's not cool. It's not okay. The cool thing is
to get money, get a fine woman, take care of
your children. Uh, start building some generational wealth, get some property,
Like just relax, get a porch, get a house with
a porch and sit outside. You know, like y'all missing
out on life and you locked in a cage. What
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a bunch of other men? Do you really like women?
It's that your comfort zone, right.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
But you know sometimes they like women until they get
in there and they find out they like some other
shit too.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
I understand that, but I really feel like those men
are already have already Uh, they have predisposed gayness.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
But I think you got if you got life in
prison without the possibility of parole, I would just go
ahead and be a gay gay.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Right, You don't need sex for survival, So you're just
gonna go against everything you are, right because I don't know, you.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Beat your dick.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
You don't have to have sex with a man because
you went to prison. That's a choice. Those men are
already gay as far as I'm concerned. If you are
willing to partake in that type of shit just because
you go do some time you're a gay man, it's okay, though.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Shit, I be a gay man. Fuck it then, cause
I mean like, I ain't never gonna get no. You know,
I ain't gonna get no. I'm gonna get some boosy now.
I'm a bussy lover.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Now the last last food.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I would be happy if the streets did die and
people started being more focused on the things that bring
black community back. You know. Yeah, so yeah, my last
last is let the streets die, Let me die, Let
that era be over. You know, for us, we need
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bigger and better things. We're onto bigger and better things.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Amen, Lrip my niggas. M I love you Black people, y'all.
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Speaker 2 (53:28):
Uh?
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Mmm. So y'all send us a DM with your information
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know about heart?
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Speaker 1 (53:53):
All right, kick it, Remember y'all speak now.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Oh that's not your line, that's my name, but ever
hold them streets period.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
who talks back.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's up, y'all, it's your grade a bay a j holiday.
Let's start tandem, y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's me Tammam. I love y'all so very very much.
How was your weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't do much. Do y'all feel like fall came
fucking early? Because why is it like extra breezy outside?
It was kind of warm this weekend, but it was
definitely cool. I probably could have flown my kite my kites,
but yeah, I ain't do much for the Labor Day weekend, relaxed,
chill shop, some deals, fashion over half fifty percent off.
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it was a lot of good sales this weekend.
It was Raquel's birthday. Shout out to my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Cow with cal so many years.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
She had like a little cookout. So I went over
to that and that was a good time. We was
playing past the ox. Nobody liked none of my music
except for maybe like once or twice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Happened into me too. I'm like, y'all just ratchet. Yeah,
I like I got old school ship.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, we were doing a lot of old school stuff,
but they just didn't want to hear what I wanted
to hear. And then I played one song that just
came out by Big X the Plug on his new album,
and they was like, yeah, that's some ship. You need
to listen it to the car by yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So wait, what what what was you trying to play
aside from now? Because I haven't heard that song?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I hope you're happy by Big EXT the Club it's
country and Big X it's Luke Kohm's in Big Club.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
They didn't want to hear that shit. But yeah, we
had a good time drinking and eating and talking shit. Yeah,
and we drank some rare Lee bray. You know, everybody
really enjoyed it. So I posted that on the story
everybody had. That's a nice shotow rare Lee Bray. Y'all
try it when you get a chance. But that was
my weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It sounds good. I don't do much again, same shit,
you know. I just feel like I didn't get no
sleep this weekend either, Like I was up.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Your boo was in town y.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We're not gonna be mentioned in my boo every episode okay, well, okay,
I'll let you know offline if he is. No. I
was very upset about it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All right, let's get in the sands.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, okay, Now I know everybody has been seeing not
even the back and forth. Cam Newton is like almost
like he specializes in embarrassing Jasmine Brown. You know, I
just feel like he does. I don't know how everybody
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else feels, but it just every time he opens his
mouth up. Anytime somebody asked him about his relationship recently,
I forgot who was on the show who he was interviewing,
but they or maybe he was on somebody else's show,
but they asked him basically like, are y'all even dating?
Imagine somebody asking your baby daddy, you're pregnant with his
(03:23):
second child, with your second child with him, because he
technically this is his eighth kid on the way, right,
and I think he has two kids that he raised,
you know, from his ex from his ex child, right exactly, Chah,
But imagine somebody asking, like, are y'all like at least dating? Like, yeah,
she lives there, but why won't you put a title
(03:46):
on it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think she knew what she signed up for with
that nigga though, especially with kid Too.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah, I really think she thought she was gonna
get a different type of treatment. I really think, because
do you remember do you remember, like do you were
you ever watching Jazzmine Brown, like back before Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, she was like funny. She was like funny, right,
And a.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Lot of her commentary was like anti Pygneicia. You know
what I'm saying, basically making fun of women in this
same type of situation. You signing up for it, and
you do ran into the fucking thanos of modern women,
and he'd turned you into a Pygneicia.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Damn, that's crazy. I don't know. I don't but their
post that she made is a bit telling, or we
would assume. So Jasmine Brown made a post that said
transparency moment, and she says, if God gave me a son,
I'd be so nervous because I feel like I subconsciously
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raise him to be a man I can only dream
of but never experience. And that's traumatic.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah. So a lot of people have been reading into
that and feel like it suggests that she is now
like having a come to moment and realizing the depths
of what she has got herself. Involved with. And I
also saw some people ripping her like, oh, I don't
feel bad for her. And I saw one comment say,
(05:25):
while she's worrying about the type of man she is raising,
she needs to be concerned about the type of woman
she's raising too, mm hmm, because your daughter gonna get
the same type of treatment you receive essentially whatever they see.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right. That makes me think of Yah Yah Mayweather and
Floyd Mayweather, you know, because she seemed like she like
settles with NBA boy a lot. Perhaps I don't want to,
you know, speak out a turn because I really don't
(06:01):
know their relationship, but I always wonder what type of
woman she would turn out to be, with her father
being someone who seemingly was a womanizer, and out of
all the men that she could have fell in love with,
young boy seems like he's very you know, lost lost
(06:25):
out here, so mental health issues and all kinds of
things going on. But that's just me speculating. I don't
know what they got going.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I mean I think also a part of it
is just like who he is, right, he's one of
the biggest rap artists out here. I'm saying, your dad
is one of the biggest athlete athletes out here. And
I don't know if that's the type of lifestyle she chasing,
that's the type of man you're gonna end up with.
I would think that. I mean, her mom seems like
(06:53):
a well drownded person, but I don't know. Maybe they
didn't raise her right.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well. More power to all those people, you know, hopefully
it didn't work out in their favor. That's all I
can say. Shit, I ain't got no niggas, so I
can't even talk. That's how I feeling like we Remimedy man,
a good man in the name of Jesus say man,
speaking of having a man in marriage and things like that.
(07:23):
Offset was on the Philsen podcast and he said that
he thinks that other men should not be married. So
the thirty one year old podcast host asked him what
advice did he have for him. Did well, he suggests
that he not be married, and he said, don't do it.
You know, it's just not he said. At first, he said,
(07:43):
I mean, you can try it out, but really, honestly,
you shouldn't do it. And he was like, you just
lose yourself in a marriage, basically is what he said.
You have to prioritize in a commedary. Else Yeah, other people,
and I guess it's just bad.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Apparently offset he was on a podcast called Philson Podcast, right,
and then there was a red car, but I don't
know where that was, what event that wasn't that was?
I think it was the either the Shade Room or
maybe Hollywood unlocked people. They were asking different men in
the industry. You had Tie Dollar Sign.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Anthony Hamila married for twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Years, Anthony Hamilton a grown ass man with adult children
at this point from maybe his marriage so and a
lot of them had a lot of positive things to
say about marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, they all supported marriage, even even when his eyes
looking all black, was like, you know what I mean,
he married a good thing, and sh.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I just think you know, Tie dollar Sign made a
very good point and uh he said that, you know,
people don't realize like how like the we don't have
any money in the black community, the black dollar last
one second, mm hmm, And I say, we don't have money.
We make lots of money, but we are the consumers, right,
(09:06):
so we we are not We're not gonna We're gonna
continue to be in the position we are in society
until we put back the emphasis that needs to be
on family.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, that was vic Mensa was like you know the
uh oh right, okay, yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No Actually it was tied at a sign, but they
had the captions wrong at the top. Remember I said
that when we were looking at it, they had the
captions wrong at the top of the conversations. So the
person's name didn't match what they said.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But that's the Oh so that wasn't him talking when
he said that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was tied out of shang so and that and
that's just the truth because I think that a lot
of black men don't realize and like Anthony Hamilton, Hamilton said,
the type the covering you get when you're in a
marriage women a good woman like men think they have
to wait until they get their bag together and all
that shit to get married. That shit will come once
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you get a wife. Like if y'all want to pull
anything else out the Bible, it says he who finds
a wife finds a good thing. That's where your money's
gonna come from. If that's what you that's all you
you know, trying to do, that's where he's going to
come from. You gotta get a woman. You gotta get
a wife. You got to start a family, because that's
going to give you the motivation to get to where
you're going. Like you can't do it by yourself. This
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life is built off of double occupancy. Yep, you know
what I'm saying. I agree, So I don't agree with
all said. So you basically you got three kids with
Cardi B. At this point, he's just a man's scorn
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's what I think. He's a man scorn. He's hurt
and he don't have nothing positive to say about marriage
because he just you know, he just went through it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
We'd be saying a lot of positive things about Cardi B.
A lot of times he'd be like, yeah, I fucked up,
you know what I'm saying when somebody actually ask him.
But you know, if he's behind the phone, eating and ship,
he'd be saying a lot of.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Rat You know, he bitter right now. You know he
bitter about it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Don't know the picture of Mari the other day.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He just like might be a major band, right he
likes taunting her?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Who do that? But a bitter nigga? Who want to talk? Taunt?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Mean person? Just a mean person? He don't necessarily have
to be bitter. I really don't feel like he liked
Cardi b from the beginning because I remember an interview
when they first started dating and somebody asked him if
he loved her, and he basically basically alluded to the
fact that he got with her because he saw where
she was heading at. That was the gist of what
he was saying, Like she hard working, like it was
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nothing about love, it was nothing about wanting a family
with him. I remember Cardi be being on the Breakfast Club,
and she knew exactly when she wanted children, and she
knew exactly when when she wanted to be married, right,
and she did those things. She chose a man and
she try to make a husband out of him, But
that nigga is exactly who who he is from day one.
This is somebody else's baby daddy.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think women be tricking themselves and they thinking that
they gonna get better treats because it's because it's me,
no bitch like you get You're gonna get the same treatment.
Until a man is ready to change. There's nothing you
can do and change that man. And that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, Unfortunately, but I mean sometimes I feel like sometimes
men do change when they get a little older and
take some wisdom and time, and they'll get you might
get a different nigga. You might. You know, I don't
seen women go through the trenches with a nigga and
I mean come out clean on the other side sometimes,
but it's rare.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Heavily bruised, heavily get up and bruised, and they look
older than the man by the time they come out
on the other side. Y'all, don't let don't let don't
let the men steal your youth because we are the
empaths we are. They take from us, right, so we
give them the life and energy to do all the things,
(13:08):
and then you'd be depleting yourself. So doing it for
the right person in your family, not some fucking nigga
who don't even consider you. For real, We're making major
life events like they gonna put a baby on you,
in you and that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, I agree. Did you see Cardi B was leaving
the courtroom. Cardi B was leaving the courtroom, y'all, and
a reporter asked her about her getting a paternity test
for Stefan Diggs and this bitch threw our phone at
this nigga. Quick me, I'm talking about realick. She's literally
(13:47):
walking out of court for assault when a security guard
and assaulted somebody else outside the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Girl, I don't even fuck with y'all say. Cardi B
is a real nigga times ten, even though she says
she and black me neither bitch like. She's literally in
court because she assaulted a security guard at the hospital
when she went for a doctor's appointment when she was
pregnant before. I feel like she's I think this is
gonna get thrown out. I don't even know why this
(14:15):
is such entertainment, Like what are y'all distracting us from
with this bullshit? Right because basically, the lady was out
of place. She was out of bounds taking videos and
photo of Cardi B. Cardi B asked her to stop,
you know, so, yeah, pregnant woman, I'm gonna blame everything
on her hormones and shit, I'm pregnant again now. I
just watched the video of her yawning in the courtroom
(14:36):
right with Cardi B. This bitch has been pregnant for
three years. She is not having it right now. She's
fucking mad.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, I don't think that's a good idea to hit
somebody else and be back in court mixed.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
She got a lot of fucking money, right, I.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Get what she was saying, like, don't be asking me
disrespectful questions. She hasn't even announced that she's pregnant. You
talking about the fraternity tests, like, get on her face? So,
I mean, I get it, But.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Speaking are real niggas about fraternity tests for one of
the existing babies?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh? Maybe maybe, but either way, she wasn't having that year,
she said me. But speaking of real niggas. So ah
came up with this one, y'all. And I think this
is a really good topic because it's been a conversation
going around, buzzing around lately. The streets is dead? Is
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that true or not? Streets?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The streets been?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, they made a statement, They asked a question. They said,
the streets is dead. But we're gonna talk about it.
Is it really true?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It been there as far as I'm concerning. We'll talk
about it when we come back after this break.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, did y'all follow the young Thug trial at all?
Did you followed it all?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I did a little bit just for Woody. Woody was
funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He just recently got into accident on the motorcycles.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah he did. I saw that. But he's okay, so
that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
One of my cousins, man, she was watching this ship
like a daytime soap opera. So I found myself like
tuning in periodically to see what the fuck was up.
Just being nosy personally because I have had my own
shit in the past. I do not like to really
get involved in other people's legal issues. Yeah, okay, most
(16:33):
real niggas ain't getting involved. Don't even want to hear about,
don't even want to know about what somebody else is
going through in the court system. M but hey, so
now it's public, and now there's the great debate about
rather or not the streets is daddy, you know, and
hip hop they've always upheld this no snitch and shit,
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which eighty percent of people in prison snitched?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right, so let's define the word, like what is
a snitch to you?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Can I finished my talking?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, all right, go ahead, I'm sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Forgot what I was trying to say. Okay, eighty percent
of people in prison probably cooperated and the twenty percent
that didn't usually have the most time.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, that's what I was trying to say, and I
would have finished and stopped.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Okay. So what is a snitch to you?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Uh? Personally? To me, a snitch? This is my personal
definition of a snitch. Like, say, for instance, you and
I together and matter of fact, we're not even together.
If somebody gets arrested for some shit and then they
start telling on things that have nothing to do with
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the reason that they were arrested, to me, that's a snitch.
So now you're cooperating, you're giving out names and situations
of other things to get time reduction. To me, that's
a snitch.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I got arrested when I was twenty for driving or
driving with a suspended license, right, and I'm in what's
the jail in Columbia, Alvin? Yeah, Yes, I was there.
They had no room for the amount of people that
was there, so they had men and women like in
a holding area all night long. Right, So might I
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might have got there like two o'clock in the afternoon
and didn't get out to like four o'clock in the
morning on a fucking PR bond. But this is a
very very interesting experience. And I distinctively remember a guy
on the phone yelling and talking loud and cussing somebody's
mom out because apparently he lets somebody drive his car.
That person commits a murder in his car. He's driving
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a car, so he gets pulled over and taking into
for custy, and now he is calling them like, hey,
I'm giving your son twenty four hours to come down
here and turn their self in because I'm not going
to jail for that shit. M that's not snitching.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I feel like the person on the outside, come free me.
You know I don't do that shit, So why are
you gonna let me take twenty years for you, years
of my whole life for you. Like the no snitching
shit never made sense to me, And I feel like
snitching is only okay when you need one. Like if
somebody family member get murdered, they want to know who
the fuck did it?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Right, Yeah, I don't know if that remember.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Murder somebody else, they don't want nobody snitching, right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Snitching is to me is like if you're involved in
some shit and you are telling just to save yourself.
But if you are a law biding citizen, and you
witness a crime and you inform the police on what
you witness. You are not a snitch. You are a
citizen of your community and you're trying to keep it safe.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're a civilian.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, and that's it, you know. I don't think that's snitching.
So like, please, if you see somebody kill my cousin,
please tell you know, please?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, everybody hate a snitch until they need one. I
remember when Gunnar first had gotten out and everybody was
calling him a snitch, right, mm, Gunna got out on
like this thing called alf Alfred plea. Basically, it's like,
let me, let me see exactly what the fuck the
Alfred Alfred Please, that's what he I remember watching, like
(20:24):
when he hold on a second, hold on? All right,
So the Alphord plea allows the defendant to enter a
guilty plea while still maintaining their innocence. It's a tactical
decision made when a defendant believes the prosecution's evidence it's
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too strong to risk a trial, but they don't want
to admit guilt. So now, I don't think the state
ever had a strong case any of these niggas. Like
if everybody just shut the fuck up, up and let
the police do their job. Most of these cases get
thrown out. It is because of the cooperation of people
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that they're even able to build cases oftentimes right. So,
when he first got out, I remember I commented on
a post somebody was calling him a snitch, and I said,
you know what I said, most of y'all are civilians.
You don't know what you will do if you were
to be in this situation.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I know exactly what I would mean. I know exactly
what I would do, and that's why I don't commit crime.
I don't participate in crime. If I'm thinking, what a nigga,
who's a criminal, I'll be like, look, don't tell me shit.
I don't want to know shit about nothing you're doing.
Don't tell me how you do it, don't tell me
how you got it. Because when the police asked me
what I know, I want to say I don't know
shit and be telling the truth. You know. So, yeah,
(21:45):
I'm because if I get in trouble, y'all going to
see me right in with my arms my sleeves, my
arms in my sleeves like this with a chicken in
front of me, because I'm not going to jail.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The Orange.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm not going to jail. I'm not the girl, and
that's why I don't commit crimes because I'm not her.
I saw this thing. Me and my friend was talking
about it. If your man was facing twenty years and
you could do three for his crime, would you do
to three so he don't do twenty? No? Hell no,
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I'm not doing it. My best friend said she would
do it. Oh, you a better bitch than me, because
first of all, I don't encourage no man to be
participating in criminal activity that will get him locked up
away from me and our family. Do find some legitiate
to do. There's a lot of legitiate you can be doing.
But what I'm not gonna do is be away from
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my kids and my family for three years because of
what you chose to do with your life. No, I'm
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think most women are in prison because they cover
the man. A lot of women are in p shit.
They did not do being a real bitch, down bottom bitch,
and they took the charge for a man. That's why
I don't understand. Like the argument with Tory Lanez and
Meg thee Stallion and the homegirl Kelsey. So now like
the thing is is that Kelsey actually shot Meg thea stallion.
I know you've seen that theory, right, And and Tory
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Lanez basically took the charge. When did have y'all ever
seen a man take a charge for a woman when
usually they trying to throw drugs in a bitch purse.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I've seen her like that. I literally saw this shit
today about this woman. She was talking about how she
was in love with this man. They were in love
with each other and she got in trouble, they got
pulled over. If he got the charge, he was gonna
do a whole bunch of time because he had he
was a third would have been a third time of
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fit like that. But she never had no charges, so
she was like, I'm gonna take the charge for you.
And she was like she was thinking, because I never
had no charge, I wasn't gonna do no time. She
said no, the judge and was like, I'm gonna make
an example of you. And she got eight years eight
years in prison, and then she said, after two years
(24:07):
of serving time, the nigga stopped taking her calls, stop
sending her money, stop putting money on her boat, stop
taking her caws, and then end up working with a
homegirl of hers and they had a baby together. So
she came home and the niggas she said, before the
baby was born. He ended up getting in trouble again
for the same shit. But and he got ten years.
(24:30):
But she had to sit down for eight whole years.
She had to do the whole eight before she could
come home.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, and that's that's best bullshit. That is a lot
of women's stories in prison. So men have community of
holes to take care of them, to take phone calls
depending on what type of money you had on the streets, right,
you're gonna and then not even that, they get on
those dating links and stuff like that, and they want
be the fat white lady to take care of them.
Like men be having shit set up. Women really be
(24:56):
in prison with nobody.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Me and mama.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know what I'm saying. I used to always be.
I was enamored at one point. I just always want
to know the reason why people were going to jail,
like the psychology of this, So I would sit for hours.
Like Houston, if you go on their website, they actually
have like the last words for like people they execute
and shit like that their last statements. It's real airy
(25:22):
and I just always would just go through to see
what are people going to jail for, like what's the
most like what's happening? And women a lot of times
if in Texas in particular, they'll have like the whole
we can read the whole case. These women be going
to jail for men, So the women don't snitch. Women
are way more loyal than men are. It's just facts.
(25:45):
So snitching has always been a thing. Like I think,
like the no snitching rule, I should probably started with
the mob, right. You know, black men love to name
themself after some mob boss, right, and like Lucci, Gucci,
whoever else? You know what I'm saying. Like, and now
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I was so like confused researcher trying to figure out
what the fuck was going on with Young the Gun
and all these people you got p on following on Instagram.
There are white people with a million views on YouTube
talking about this ship calling Atlanta rat Atlanta. Like, imagine,
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y'all are not off the culture. Y'all ain't even in
the streets. So this is the bullshit y'all trying to uphold.
And you got people making, you know how much money
they making off a million views? We can't even capitalize
off of snitcheon snitching or not snitching. That's not ship,
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Like what are y'all doing it for at this point?
So to me, the streets been there, and I just
really want to redefine what a real nigga is. Real
nigga is somebody who takes care of their fucking family,
who's not about to crash out one second spliting motion,
you know what I'm saying, and leave children behind, leave
their woman behind, lead their whole family behind, or just
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even just getting murdered in the street, murdering somebody else.
You take our two niggas at one time when somebody
kills another, when a black man kills another black man, right,
so one going to prison one dad?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Right? Uh? At one point, so real nigga meant something
like someone solid, respecting in the streets and lived what
they wrapped and upheld the quote and I put that
in quotations the code. But I think the standard for
a real nigga has evolved very much in our today's society.
So now it's not about crime or street times, it's
about authenticity of self for real, Like you got like
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people like Kendrick Lamar and Jake Cole and even drink
at times, Like who pushed vulnerability and healing and emotional honesty.
And I think that's a different kind of real that
really stands out now versus just being on some street
cred ship.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, and I think young Thug this is the this
is the I think what he represents the young thug
archaeotype of a black man, of a real nigga. I
believe this is an end. This has always been a facade.
Nigga's been snitching. There has really never been any street code,
no principles. These young guys, the skinny jean wearing niggas
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like they they've been on this type of time, Young Thug.
All of all these phone calls was with Maria the scientist,
him like venting to her about other niggas, like just
real real chatty patty shit.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You on the phone with the scienceist talking about.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
All probably just sitting there like yes, baby like her
baby like she listens to all that. Daddy, am I
her baby.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Red she cleared her through.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'd be doing that shit randomly on the phone sometimes, Daddy,
am I your baby girl? I know she probably sitting
lay like how you laying next to this nigga? Hein't
no real nigga, Like, why you laying next to him now?
How you feel about him right now?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I don't think she probably think he's the realist
nigga living. If she's in love with him, she doesn't
care what nobody say. You know how that be when
you're in love with a man.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, So is that tweet real? The tweet where he
was saying like, can't nobody like basically saying everybody gay
in Atlanta and can't nobody come around little baby with
skinny jeans on? Did somebody create that?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't know if that was real. It was funny, though, I.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Want to know if that was real. So in one
of the phone calls, she was talking shit about about PE,
basically saying like he you know p is P and
coach K they were the owners of Quality Control. I
believe they sold that shit for like three hundred m's
one hundred million dollars in twenty twenty three. So young
(30:10):
Thugs basically saying like he's a snitch. Also right, so
qc P he uh went to Instagram, he said imagine
some broke ass rats like and he actually at young
thug pee wee rat skull trying to run a rat
narrative on me and all my niggas that I love
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running with. These whole ass whole Let me back up,
trying to run a rat narrative on me and all
my niggas that I love running with.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I couldn't understand that shit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I think there's no periods, no no punk.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No punk punctuation whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, so he said, these whole ass niggas. Knowing how
these niggas talk about me, I'm going to say this
for the last time. I'm not a street nigga, Okay.
I'm a tax paying citizen that's running a business and
taking care of my family. All the street niggas is broke,
dead and in jail. Why do y'all continue to glorify
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this shit? Street's been dead, y'all niggas gave the city
a bad name. Now, this is a real street.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Nigga, right, he said, he ain't no street nigga, he said,
I'm a He said he is a real nigga. I'll
say that this is a real.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Nigga, okay, because, like I said, real men take care
of their families m hm. And they're not out here
crashing out like young thug has ruined the city of Atlanta,
for sure. He had a lot of young men that
went to prison, got a lot of time. He was
definitely the given direction. A lot of niggas crashed out,
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a lot of young boys, a lot of young guys
were murdered. Like even though they they couldn't pinpoint everything
on him. He's not innocent, He's not this and at all.
He took a plea deal because he had the money
to do so. But what about goddamn tyrone who grandma,
who was raised by his grandma, His grandma don't got
no money for his defense.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, there's one hundred years and then you get enough
pussy on money outside and you are Yeah, and there's
just consequences of street rap. We see it. You know,
it's been consequences for over a decade. You're gonna end
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up dead, You're gonna end up jail. You're gonna be
fighting rico cases like mm hmm, let's let that go,
you know, let's let that and then all right, so no.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Money, you're not making any money Like that's that's really
the mind boggling part. Like y'all haven't even lived enough,
you haven't had enough experiences for real, most of these guys,
and they just crash out real young, real early. And
I do blame some of the older men, the older guys,
because they'll they'll employ the young boys to crash out
for them.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
M h.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's terrible. So that that archetype needs to die as well.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And with the globalization of hip hop, like hip hop
is the biggest genre in the world right now, you
got Asian rappers, Latin American United Kingdom doing anything, and
none of them like even understand or have not indocrinated
the street rules. That's no longer a thing. These niggas
want to have. They want to fly luxury and lifestyle,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Living vicuriously through these crash dummies, so they can rap
and have you know, they can actually rap about the
same shit, but they're not actually doing it because they're
smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or they rapping about what wealth and love and shit
like that. They're not even rapping about those street shit.
It's terrible, and they're and those and that type of
music is outperforming drill music. Let's be clear, you know
they are performing. You know, the.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Drill music really didn't only lasted like what a summer or.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Two it's still drilling out terrible. The all the drill
used to be dying so fast, you know, like the
turnover rate is high. The turnover rate is very high
for this ship, or not even just dying. They going
to jail. What's the dirt?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'm not even talking about Dirk. I really feel like
young Thum might have something to do with why he
handed him up right now, because remember he beats some
charges like twenty two to twenty three and basically he
uh blamed everything on what's the one that passed away?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Listen, I don't know all these drill.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, you know Auntie the nigga who I know what
you're talking about. Yeah, but I can't put my finger
on his name right now if I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Turn Yeah, this conversation is definitely just coming from grown
women who will be raising children in this fucking world.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, like if you talked to twenty two year olds,
the conversation might be very different, you know. Like, but
you niggas.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I'm sick of you niggas. There are black people and
there are niggas, You niggas. Okay, everybody ain't gonna make
it right. Everybody ain't gonna make it, and the real
black people need to stand up. This is we cannot
keep going after other other groups of people like we
can't keep blaming them man, right when we are doing
this to our own people. At some point we got
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to take accountability because really it's always been us. Even
the things that they do, they would would have never
been able to infiltrate our communities and the way they
do if they didn't have the help of a black
person of a black.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Man, right and the support. Yeah, so the.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Blame and then why you So they're snitching like in
the streets, and then there's like whistle blowing, whistle blowing
in corporate like which whistleblowers are selling braided Often that
is a snitch? Is it not a bitch tailing on
you at work?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
But no, it depends. It depends because it's not snitching,
because it's only snitching in if you were involved in
the activity and then you started telling to save yourself.
If you see some practices that are being violated, especially
ones that can affect everybody, and you tell, are you
a snitch?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
These white YouTubers stick to the whistle blowing conversations, y'all
are y'all are not in the streets to be calling
a black person a snitch, right, I should rub me
the wrong way. Even though these niggas is snitching. It
just rubs me the wrong way that these people are
monetizing this conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But snitches do not, in fact get stitches six nine
his name. He walking around perfectly fine, you know, So
where are the stitches that everybody he was saying all
these years that people were gonna get It was a lie.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Whack one hundred Takashi sixty nine. Academics, Lord and somebody
else was like going on alive, like talking about the
shit that's going I don't know how to fuck. Academics
stays in the midst of all us because the nigga
doesn't leave his home like he's in the basement streaming,
so he too is just not a street nigga. But
for whatever reason, he just always has like commentary for
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whatever is going on, and a lot of people tune
in to hear.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We done did the research and got all the information.
I think that's why they enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
But no, he put he actually also then feeds information
like as far as I'm concerned, DJ Academics is an
agent of the state, like some of the like him
h Vlied TV, like all of these characters. They are
employed by by these people, the man, as far as
I'm concerned, and they have in our community.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Non day plans. See, I don't know. I don't follow
none of these motherfucking people. I'll be over here waiting
for Devilware's product you to come out. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
This is a life lifestyle podcast, right we gotta be
a brisk aware of some of the shit that be
going on so we can have conversations about these things,
anxiety and lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I agree, but this ain't my wheelhouse right here, all
these reco cases and crime. I'm so far If you
would have asked me this about ten years ago, I
probably would have known more about it. But at this
state in my life, this ship is not on my
It don't come across my desk at all. I'm so
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far removed from that. I be in a car listening
to R Kelly. Y'all don't judge me, let do So
there's that.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
What did he do? Now? I don't know. It's a
I don't know. I do discriminate, okay, like I don't.
It's certain brands I don't funk with after I hear
you do certain things. You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh,
it's people, I don't I stop sucking with. I haven't
drunk Starbucks ever since they hemmed up those two black
boys and they're uh how many years ago was that
that they racially profiley, And it's I don't fuck with you.
(39:19):
I don't fuck with waffle House, So I.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Don't fuck with like I don't funk with what R.
Kelly did or his behavior, but I do fuck with
his music. Why do I have to?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like, I don't separate?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
How why do I have to? Yeah, like, you don't separate?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, he is?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
He is.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Listen you listen to some of the lyrics and those songs.
You know what I'm saying, seems like you're read at girl?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Are you ready? I was listening to the greatest sex,
the greatest you, the greatest he that's a oh my god,
Like I cannot put it down.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm so sorry. I want I might smash on that
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Like I wouldn't let out of the
world like just because it might fend to other people,
But can I listen to it about myself? You know?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's still on iTunes. Apple ain't taking down.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
He's still making money.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
So I don't know kills one of the best to
ever do it, y'all. I'm sorry to forgive me.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I swear let's do some hypothetical situations, and you do
in the situation. So, uh, you're riding.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm telling you, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're riding with your cousin. There's a gun in the car.
You didn't know about it. Police pull y'all over what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I'm staying quiet. I ain't saying she like, does she do?
Can't she speak?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
She got autius on a song. She don't talk.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm gonna be staying with that lady in the court
on the court episode. But you're staring off in the here.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
But that's me, bitch. I can't speak. I don't talk.
She don't talk. She don't talk. She don't know how
to talk. That's my cousin. She don't talk. I'm quiet.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
How everybody, if there's like a recal situation, if everybody
really for real, if everybody just be quiet, like oftentimes
they don't even have a case. The case is built
off of what people tell.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Me saying yeah, I'm not saying shit. I'm deaf, mute.
I don't know, I don't I don't speak, I don't
do I can't talk right, I have the words out
of me.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Uh, your co worker is stealing checks and payroll is short?
You know your co worker is stealing checks?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Are we cool? Is this my cool coworker?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Cause y'all cannot pick and choose. Bitch, you are actually
an accomplice if you know this person is doing this
thing and you don't report it.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
How I know? How can you prove? I know?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I just asked the question. I said, your co worker
is stealing checks and payroll is short. Your co worker
is stealing checks? You know your co workers stealing checks?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know. Shit, I don't know what the fuck
you're talking about. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
When they pull her in HR, they be like, well,
Tammy knew.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Tammy didn't know shit. Tammy was at her desk minding
her business. Hi, I knew if I didn't get no
check from her? How I knew where my check in
while we in here.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Let me tell y'all in the story. Y'all, in high school,
I had this teacher. I'm gonna say his name to
his name is mister Sheely. You missed it. I don't
know if he's alive now. I don't know if it's
social studies, no science, it was actually science. I had
an a in the class. Mister Sheely would do and
say some questionable shit. I remember one day I was like,
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mister Sheeley, man, you need to go ahead and cut
that hair off because he was a playful teacher. You
know you got some cool teachers. I said, you need
to go ahead and go ahead and go completely bad
man what you're doing? And he said, I bet I
got more hair on Mike than you got on your
He didn't say the words, but like he nod like down.
(42:59):
I got an a in the cl maybe a couple of
weeks later, did you was failing the class?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Hold on? Bitches?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Who was failing the class went to the went to
the principal right saying that he had been sexually harassing him. Right,
y'all fail in the class though?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
So now everybody getting together? Who failing? And now all
of a sudden, he's like sexually harassing people. I put
my name on the list to come and testify. Essentially, girl,
I got up now nothing, never heard of anything.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I got an a bitch. But if you saw a
teacher sexually harassing young students, I never seen it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Happen to anybody else. I knew what I experienced, but
I never saw him do or say anything else sideway
as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Okay, yeah, just mind your business man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I mind my fucking business one because I got an
A and two of y'all, bitch, I know some.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Of you, but if you had as would you have
joined in.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I wasn't gonna be failing anyway. Y'all know I probably
still wouldn't up joining if I had an f I
deserved it.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Okay, but these is motherfuckers who ain't doing shit in
the class anyway. And now you want to say that
you want to.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But he still was inappropriate and he don't need to
be around young children.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It is so crazy. Like maybe three or four years
after I got out of high school, I went to
my one of my best friend's high school graduation. So
now I'm like, I don't know, twenty two twenty three
and one of our and this was actually the social
studies teach, and I can now remember his name, mister
Polliard mister motherfucking Pollard. He had like this red knot
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on this. Hey, you know, white people be having all
these little weird growths on him. But I'm at her graduation.
They do, they do be having like weird notts and
lumps and stuff. I'm at her graduation. He hugs everybody,
and when he gets to me, he kisses me on
my fucking and I'm standing there like and everybody looking
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at me like, and you know what he's said. I
always wanted to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Do that inappropriate, Go to jail. Go to jail.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
You always wanted to do that. I just got to
a high school a couple of years ago. You were
my teacher. What the fuck is happening?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But you've grown now? I don't heard that, Oh you've
grown now. Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I have actually had like a school resource office to
try to haul at me, like a couple of years
out of high school for sure. At the mall.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, I don't listen. I got some stories about them
resource offices. Yeah. But anyway, but here's the back to
your scenariotion scenario though, because if I was employed by
a company, and y'all might be mad at me by this,
but if it was a black girl stealing the chicks.
I would just be like, bitch, you better stop. You
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about to get in trouble. But it was a white
man stealing the chicks. I'm telling I don't know why
I would do that. What why pay roll is short? Bitch?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Payroll? That mean other employee checks are short because she's
stealing the checks. I'm telling you, taking money out of
everybody else's pocket.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I don't want to tell on a black woman.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
She might be taking your check.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
So now in order for it has to affect you directly. See,
that's where the street no snitch shit never makes sense
to me. People going to snitch when it's affecting them directly,
But if it's somebody else's family, they don't see the
need to snitch. All stop snitching. Free my nigga, Like
your nigga is a demon out here.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Okay, no, I get it, But I'm just saying, like,
what y'all doing that y'all can't find out how I know,
And y'all don't know, y'all somebody up here not doing
their job, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I
know if I.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Know, other people know, right, So this is the last one.
The cops come to you with an ultimatum, talk or
take the charge.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
An ultimatum. I need to hear it charge. I'm never
taking the charge. I don't care what happened. I'm never
taking no charge. If it don't belong to me, I'm
not taking it. If it's mine, I'll own it, but
it's never gonna be mine. Because I am a law body,
I am terrified to be in anybody's jail. So yes, no,
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I'm not taking no charge. I can't think of a
scenario where I would need to take.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
A charge your child.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I can't think of a scenario where I would need
to because that's exactly why I'm not If I have
a kid, I'm not tattooing my kid's name on me
like these motherfuckers grow up and disappointing you and.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Now like I'm everybody is their own individual person. I'm
not taking a charge. You know right from wrong.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I raised you. I'm you're going to jail. I'm gonna
take it like I'm gonna put money on your books
and I'm gonna come see you. But I'm not taking
no charge for you. Hell No, I am not fair
kind of mother. Why would you work? Why would you
want your mama in jail for you? You are sick. What
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kind of nigga gonna let their mama go to jail
for them?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
That's what I'm trying to understand. Like even older men
letting young boys take charges for them too, because they
think because they're younger, you're not gonna get as much time.
It's just like, to me, that's that's not love. No, y'all,
don't give a fuck about it. Any That's a lot,
a whole lot of selfishness in the streets. Yea, that's
all it is. Everybody's for themselves, Okay, so be for yourself.
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Do what's best for you. You'll be out here crashing out
for the next nigga because they will not crash out
for you. Women, don't be out here waiting for these
niggas to come home, especially if they ain't your husband. Okays,
they're gonna come home. They're gonna get somebody pregnant the
same fucking year they get out of jail. Yeah do
I I'm always speaking from experience, Okay, it's not current
(48:57):
right because I learned from my lessons, right, But don't
don't don't do it's best for you.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Always yeah. Make And you know what, if you think
waiting on the nigga to come home from jail is
best for you, then do that too, but just be
willing to suffer the consequences of that, to live with
the consequences of that, whatever that is. It might turn
out to be fair. Not likely, but it might. You know,
you love giving hose hope. I do. I listen because
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I romantic, because I have to keep hope alive. You
know what I'm saying, That's my job out here.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I would say, more often than not, things are not
going to go the way you would like them to go, right,
So do what's best for you. That is my last
last Or if taking the charge for a nigga is
what's best for you, so be it. Don't cry. I
don't even think people realize like the toll it takes
on a family when somebody goes to prison, especially the mother,
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and everybody's in jail with you, you call you become
a bill. You know what I'm saying, Like, people stop answering,
people stop writing. I don't know why we glorify as shit.
I remember my ex, one of his homeboys said basically
like he wished he had like the type of clout
my ex had without having to go to prison. Why
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are we glorifying niggas who spent a quarter they fucking
life in jail anyway?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Just not cool. Oh let me say that. I'm sorry, Millennium.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
It's not cool. It's not okay. The cool thing is
to get money, get a fine woman, take care of
your children. Uh, start building some generational wealth, get some property,
Like just relax, get a porch, get a house with
a porch and sit outside. You know, like y'all missing
out on life and you locked in a cage. What
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a bunch of other men? Do you really like women?
It's that your comfort zone, right.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
But you know sometimes they like women until they get
in there and they find out they like some other
shit too.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
I understand that, but I really feel like those men
are already have already Uh, they have predisposed gayness.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
But I think you got if you got life in
prison without the possibility of parole, I would just go
ahead and be a gay gay.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Right, You don't need sex for survival, So you're just
gonna go against everything you are, right because I don't know, you.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Beat your dick.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
You don't have to have sex with a man because
you went to prison. That's a choice. Those men are
already gay as far as I'm concerned. If you are
willing to partake in that type of shit just because
you go do some time you're a gay man, it's okay, though.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Shit, I be a gay man. Fuck it then, cause
I mean like, I ain't never gonna get no. You know,
I ain't gonna get no. I'm gonna get some boosy now.
I'm a bussy lover.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Now the last last food.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I would be happy if the streets did die and
people started being more focused on the things that bring
black community back. You know. Yeah, so yeah, my last
last is let the streets die, Let me die, Let
that era be over. You know, for us, we need
(52:32):
bigger and better things. We're onto bigger and better things.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Amen, Lrip my niggas. M I love you Black people, y'all.
If you enjoyed this Auntie rant right, y'all, please tune
in every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app The Way with
the Fuck you get your podcast dot that's your co
host aj Holiday on two point uh, I mean two
(52:57):
point zero on.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Instagrams, y'all, It's official Tanbama on Instagram. Also follow We
Talk Back Podcast on Instagram. Uh, send us your dumbitch
stories and what else? Send us? Oh, we want to
have a conversation about motherhood. You made a post requesting
what was your post? You made a post request I wanted.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
To know, right, this is the this is the judgment Olympics?
Was the post I put up? Tell me a time?
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (53:28):
We want to see who's who gets judged the most,
essentially women with no children or single moms.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Mmm. So y'all send us a DM with your information
on that, or you can call what's the number you
know about heart?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
I don't y'all look at the posts?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Okay, yeah, go look at that We Talked Back Podcast page, y'all,
and we love y'all for chiming in and sharing your
life with us.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
All right, kick it, Remember y'all speak now.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Oh that's not your line, that's my name, but ever
hold them streets period.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
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