The Judgment Olympics with Good Mom Bad Choices

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network Talk Talk.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey y'all, at your girl a j holiday? What's up,
Tam Bam?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey aj I love y'all so much. How was your weekend?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
My weekend was very uneventful.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been getting cold outside and that's it. There's really
nothing much going on in South Carolina right now. I'm Hiberneaton.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
So you didn't have bay.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Me about that nigga.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You tell me every week, so I was just wondering
you asked me.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I don't be mentioning him because you ask me, and
sometimes I be having to explained some ship that I.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Said on this this damn podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
He listens to listen, so he listens every week. I'm
make sure my niggas don't listen.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Every week.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
He'd be knowing what we're talking about. Like last week
he was like, so you want a marathon? But yes,
actually I do, so was it talking about you?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
So he's gonna have two shows to listen to this week,
ours and our guests. So y'all, we got some amazing guests.
On their cousins to the podcast. They're like our Sisters
show on the network because it's female led Mela and
Erica from Good Mom's Bad Choices. It's our guests on

(01:37):
the show this week. Welcome lady Ah here, y'all, Hey, y'all,
eighty hey. So we just got on with them yesterday
and we had a really good time talking with them,
and now we had to bring them over here with
our of you listeners. So maybe y'all can jump on

(01:57):
and listen to their show if you already aren't. They
probably already tuning in. So I don't know where I
was about to go with it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
You high her?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh yeah, let's talk about y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Weekend LA is pretty uneventful. I feel like it's gotten
very dry since twenty twenty. So I was in I
was in New York, and then I went to Miami
because I was avoiding coming home because why come home
when I could go to Miami. And actually I had
a pretty eventful week in New York. I danced with
Sierra at the Soho House.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I saw that.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's pretty epic. It wasn't planned. I don't know her
at all. People think I'm really cool now like, oh
my god, you guys blew up. I'm like yeah, me
and Sis. And then I went to Miami and I
wandered into a drag brunch by myself, made seven friends,
and joined the dance contest even though they said locals only.

(02:57):
I was like locals or locals and what I've joined? Anyway.
I didn't win, though, which was a tragedy. But other
than that, and today I went and tried on wedding dresses.
So I've had an eventful week.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh you had a very eventful week. What about you, Erica?

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Excuse me? I was also in New York with Mila
and witnessed her dance with Sierra. If you have a second,
go on our page good Mom's bad Choices and go
see the knees, because mila'sknees are well oiled.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, period?

Speaker 5 (03:29):
And what else did I do? I came back. I
had to jump straight back into motherhood. So my daughter
had cheerleading. I fucked up, and I got to the
damn homecoming. We got her to the homecoming game late,
she missed the whole performance. Bad choice mom, good whatever
the fuck? So that was annoying. Other than I've just

(03:53):
been chilling girl, I've just been relaxing, decompressing. I love
New York, but every time I come back, I'm a
little bit like I just feel like energetically, like it
just pulls me a lot. Even this trip, I was
actually really well behaved. Like normally when I'm in New York,
I'm like outside, and this trip I was. This is
the calmest I've ever been in New York City in
my whole fucking life. But I still came back and

(04:13):
needed like two days of recovery. So I've just been chilling. Today.
It's raining in la and I love it. I love
a good rain. It feels cleansing. And now I'm on
here with you ladies.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Don't I always say that about New York, Like it's
like a it's They're definitely like harvesting our energy. Between
Atlanta and New York, I'm always feeling like drained.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, you always said that you hate your own good.
So okay, let me tell you about my weekend. I
didn't tell y'all. So my mom just purchased a new house,
so I was out helping her. I'm know, I'm so
happy for her. Out by a new furniture for her
house and I'm just so as you know, y'all may
not know. I've been like a gypsy for the past year.

(04:56):
So I came out to La. I was there for
like forty five days, and I broke my foot. So
then I left LA. And then you broke your foot
in La, I know. I came back home for a
wedding and I jumped a catch the bouquet broke my
foot on the landing.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah's gonna plush you, no, so, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
So my stuff is still in La in a storage
unit right now. So I haven't been back. It's been almostly.
It's been a year. So I'm going back out. I'll
be back out there soon. When we have to hang out.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Here for that forty five day I would do here. Yeah,
I decided to because you broke your foot.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, and I just didn't want to be out there
or without a village with a broken foot, can't drive,
you know, all those things. So then I came back
to South Carolina to my mom's house and to heal.
And then in February, I got an apartment in New York,
but I was subletting that it wasn't like my own space,
and it was furnished. So my ship was in the

(05:57):
storage unit in Charlotte, some of my stuff was in
this unit in LA and then the stuff I brought
with me to New York. Right, so like I'm scattered,
and then there's ship in South Carolina. So now yeah,
like just very scattered. So now my mom is like moving,
So now I would either need to move my shit
in her house to her new house or just get

(06:19):
my own place. So I've been apart apartment shopping. Finally,
after a year of living out of a suitcase and boxes,
I'm finally about to be back in an apartment of
my own, back in Charlotte, the place I did not
necessarily want to be, but here we are. So that's
what I was doing looking at apartments. It's fun. I

(06:42):
found it really Like I think right now is a
good time to be like apartment hunting because it's cheap.
I mean, well, I won't say cheap, because.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm like, can you share for the West Coast people listening,
can you please tell me its jealous and mad?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
This q ass apartment y'all and south in Charlotte. So
it's right outside of downtown and it's a six floor unit.
It's nine hundred, nine hundred ninety square feet or something
like that, and it's only eighteen sixty. Well so it's
it's two thousand and ninety, right, but with a month free.

(07:20):
So I just take down them off the entire lease
and it came out to eighteen sixty a month. And
it's so cute, like I mean, it's got like the
nice finishes, like all those all the bells and whistles.
Wash your dryer, definitely wash your and dryer, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I mean you don't get you got to be a
millionaire to have a washer and dryer in la Okay,
I'm not joking.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I gotta use water like that, right, I mean fact
I wish that. That sounds like a that's a great price.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Eighteen hundred sixty y'all take. And so this building it
was meant to be condos, right, so it's only four
units on each floor.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh yeah nice?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And yeah it is just so I came went to
movie in Girl. Now the only thing I did not
I don't have is a balcony. So I hate that
because you know I'll be smoking.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
But we just go four people on your floor. They
were like, go to fuck with you?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Maybe they leave the Yeah, because it's like corner. I'm
on the corner there on the corner, Like so I'm
just off by myself, but I'm excited for it.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
They guys, air purified, you'd be all right, yeah yeah, So.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Wait, so why did New York work out?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And why aren't you going back to La?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay? So La did not work because I just didn't
feel connected there, but I didn't give it a chance
for real. I was only there a short moment.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I remember Orlando telling me like, TAM's moving and then
I was like, what happened to Tam. He's like she
broke her foot and how he was like she was
trying to catch the bouquet. I was like, wow, she
really wanted that bouquet. And then I just never heard
about it again, but he said that it reminded me.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I'm just hugely competitive, especially when I'm drunk. So
I was like, not.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Somebody else's wad and you broke you broke your foot,
and now all the attentions on you, bitch.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
And it reeled out and to carry you outs or no.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I was drunk, you know, so I just kind of
hobbled out. I was like, it's fine, it's just frain.
But then the next day that's when I realized, like,
oh my shit is broken. My foot was you know,
big and the pain. But so La. The first day
I was there, it was an earthquake. I was like like,
I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I only were recording virtual and then sh it just
start shaking.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I was like, oh shit, this place really be shaking
like this. I was like, I don't know, Like so
that just kind of, you know, was kind of off putting.
I was like an Elliott fall because it was like, yeah,
you thought Elliott had fell down, like it was a earthquake.
So I didn't give La A tried. Then New York.
I like New York, but New York is so like

(09:55):
the transportation was just so expensive. I don't I cannot
ride the train. I tried. I can't do it. You
watch these movies like sex TV shows like Sex and
the City. They're on the train, and shit, nobody really
rides that motherfucker for real, Like.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
My say, dear girl, everybody be on there.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
No girl, I got on that train. I was like
I'm gonna because I was taking acting classes right, so
I was like, I'm gonna take the train to class
the day before, just so I can make sure I
get there on time. And I got on the train
and I don't know if this guy could sense like
I was, you know something, but he came over me.
He was like, I can balance your chakras right, yeah,

(10:32):
for a dollar not in nodssense. He was standing over me, bitch.
I was so scared.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I was like, please.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Chakras for a dollar ninety nine, bitch.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
A dollar ninety nine. And he was standing over me
with his hands like this girl. And I was like
ah like and I was like, I'm never getting on
this motherfucker again. I took my classes and I love
it and I'm still in school, but I'm just virtual now.
But I don't like the noise pollution either. It's just
too much. The train, Like I could literally hear the
train like it felt like it was running through my bedroom.

(11:04):
I could hear the motherfucker like next to Philadelphic because
of me. I could hear that shit from my bed,
Like I was, I can't.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Do this, So you traumatized the South?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It is for me. It's warm, it's beautiful, the people
are nice, the streets are clean. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
New York is mad Max I'm cool on New York anyway, y'all,
let's get into stupid internet news. Yes, we got going
on a day so I know everybody, but everybody's been
seeing Cam Newton and all his commentary between him and
his guest on his shows on Freaky Friday, so he's

(11:42):
turned up some shit again. Recently, he had an interview
he had Parker McKenna on Freaky Friday, and he basically
stated that he asked Jasmine Brown for his excuse me
for her.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
List, the big list, like who you have slept with?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Lists? What's big for some not for others?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Agent, are y'all giving y'all man a list of your
sexual partners?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Do you want me to go first?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Not only am I not giving you my list because Nigga,
I don't remember and I didn't write it down because
I'm a grown ass woman. I'm not in fucking twelfth grade.
I'm also going to stop talking to you for you
to ask me such an ignorant, ridiculous question, because nigga,
if I asked you that, you couldn't even begin. And anyway,
also I could lie and just put big Bean number seven,
Like what are you talking about? You don't know these niggas,

(12:38):
and what would be the point of that so you
can judge me and be looking at me sideways. I
just think it's an immature statement. I think it's an
immature request, and it lets me know that emotionally and
spiritually we're not on the same page, because nigga, where's
your list and where we're going to cross reference and
call people and be like, hey, she lived there for
two years? Okay, well how was it?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Like?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
What is the point?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's an apartment hunting?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
What about your am?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Sure I'm a lie.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Sure, I'm a firm believer in lion too.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Niggas, Okay, wait, if you're gonna if you're gonna lie,
what how much?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Like? Okay, just like you just like he's gonna lie?
Like what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
But what do you?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
And if I did? Then what nigga? Then what? What?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
What are you gonna? What do you think is the
number that niggas want to hear with people with women
like our big age, Like let's say over thirty five.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I'm just curious under ten okay, mm hmmm, preferably five
under five that's like under less than one a year.
I feel like anything. Over ten, you start getting into
whole activities in.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Their minds, right, okay, the men last they start, they.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Literally tell you literally start seeing Dix entering your pussy,
like immediately.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Hag your mouth and your eye everywhere and everything else. Essentially,
he basically said, like his ego, like his ego, you know,
is just not in check enough to even do.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
He was it ew right, he was, he was ill,
and he was like he would definitely have a bruised ego,
and because of who he is and like going into
different spaces, he just doesn't want a nigga slitting over
in the corner when he pull up with his girl,
And like, you know, just and how you think a
bitch feels because of who you are.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
We know you fucked a million motherfucking people. And I'm
gonna walk into a park.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I'm like what I always say, if I walk into
a party, it might be one person in there I
fuck with.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I walk in there with a nigga. He probably don't
hit like twenty bitches in here. So who's really the hope?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right, what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I don't even don't honestly, and I've done somehow, and
I really don't even the one person rule, Like it
is so rare that we're gonna I have a hold
across the country.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know, I live in different city than I hold in,
So yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
They're spread out, nigga, nigga's in the same zip code.
Dan you a whole And.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I'm not the kind of how that you can ever
disrespect any any nigga I fuck still wants to be
my friend. He's gonna he he aha, your face, my face,
He's gonna be happy to see us because we had
a good run and I didn't do nothing but be
nice to him. And honestly, for all the men and
women listening who don't know how to like go go
about these type of situations, you don't say shit until

(15:14):
you were in the room with the nigga and you
think he's gonna speak, and you think maybe they know
each other in that case, right as he's approaching and say,
I know him, we've had history. Thanks doing real quick.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I know, men don't even think about you until they
see you with whoever you fucking now, you know, so
let me go ahead and tell on myself before this nigga,
you know, tells as if we had sex yesterday and
you ain't seen his pussy since I was eighteen.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
My whole facts, My whole facts deletes at eleven fifty
nine fifty nine on December thirty first. Every year like
so vanishes.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
And to be honest, if you weren't condom, it doesn't
count period.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
And if I didn't comment on count, what do we.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Think there's a barrier there? So now it didn't work.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
I may, I may or may not even say shit
if the nigga's walking towards you, to be honest, because
it's not your motherfucking business, it's before you. Why what
for what you know? What I mean unless y'all be
unless I find out y'all are homeboys, maybe, and maybe
I'll give you the courtesy of afterwards. I'm not I'm
probably not gonna do it in the real time because
that's awkward and uncomfortable. I don't know, like I've actually

(16:25):
done that before and it has backfired on me because
niggas always say they want this and then they can't
handle it when it actually happens. So like their track
record of needing to know is very low and poor,
and their track record of actually being honest about what
they've done is also very low and poor. So why
the fuck am I going to tell you my shit?
Like no, thank you, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, And then anybody becomes their cousin or friend once
they know you fucked them.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's my homeboy, Like.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Nigga, let me see your let me see your phone
phone number. You lie like a motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
You know him I have.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I also like one time I did tell this guy
this and he went and called him and they weren't
even close like that, and so he went and called
him out of respect.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
That was so whack.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
He he went and called him out of respect. He
really wasn't out of respect. It was on some like
ego ship the egos and so yeah, and this nigga
like they're not even really.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That the.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Current. The current called the former. The former was out
there minded weird and and me and and the former
we had only slept together one time. It was a
one and done situation. We tried it, it wasn't there
wasn't a vibe. We continued being friends and he called
him and the guy was thrown off. He called me like,

(17:47):
why is this nigga calling me to tell me this ship?
Like I don't like this is weird, and I was like,
I don't know, and it was like it was for
his own ego, like he wanted him to know and
then and then and then abusing that ship against me,
then using that shit against me later. Like so it's
just like I'd rather not Ladies just shit the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Now, did y'all see this? Steph Curry's wife, Ayisha, is
facing backlash for saying that she never wanted kids and
she had her own career goals and her husband doesn't understand.
So have y'all been seeing all the backlass she's been
receiving about that? Of course not true.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
That whole headline isn't true. Of course I've seen it.
I actually watched the full episode, and she did not
say anything wrong. She praised the fuck out of her husband.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
What woman who got married at twenty one and got
pregnant within the same year of being married a child
basically right right? Why would she not be reflecting at
this age in her thirties?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
You know, the should have could have waded because she
was acting and stuff like that from a little girl,
So of course she's going to be She was just
reflecting you know, they be cutting and pasting shit for Instagram.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I don't know why people hate her so much. Yeah,
do you see that people hate her.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Her a lot?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
They really hate her. They hate her because that's me.
That was the first comment that hates people they hate women.
Well there's that too, yes, but they whimpically really hate
her a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I feel like she's like the most Like she's like
a homemaking present. She has a cooking line. Like when
I think of the men on the internet who hate women,
like they might hate us, or like someone who's like
more provocative outwardly, because she probably is like a little
secret freak because she geten married all this time. But
I feel like I'm very shocked by people hating her,

(19:32):
Like what is there to hate? She seems very wholesome.
I never wear any sea or wearing anything that's gonna
make everybody like, I never see anything that's so triggering.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, Like I say, it's because people, the men are
obsessed with Steph Curry and they will idolize him and
have decided what is suitable for him. They want to
talk as a wife and Aisha Curry has Ayisha Curry,
although yes, she has has yes, although she has followed
I guess, the traditional wife role for a while. I

(20:02):
think like now she's kind of starting to step out
on her own. She has her own like I guess,
like a makeup line or lip glass line, and she's
done her own like. They just they want her to
fit into a specific box where she doesn't mention him
at all and doesn't say anything unbecoming around him or
just being a wife in general. And I think it's

(20:23):
just unfortunate, like because so many and what I've seen,
and it's not even just men. I've seen a lot
of women coming for her. Even me and Mila went
to dinner the other day. We were sitting with a
girl and like we started talking about this and she
I could see the like the like disgust in her.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, And I was like, where.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Is this coming?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I think the women think that girl, your husband
is be grateful whatever, you don't exactly be grateful, shut
up and look pretty.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
This is yeah, this is the attitude women have for her.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
But those same women, if they were in the same position,
would have fucking feelings about it too. I don't give
a fuck no matter how much money you got, you're
still human. You have you have desires, you have wishes,
you have goals that maybe haven't been fully you know, realize,
especially when you're living in the shadow of a famous person,
you know, your whole identity starts being attached to them.
You can't even be your own woman, your own person.

(21:12):
Everyone your Steph Curry's wife, Steph Curry's wife. It's just
like when you go meet like even you don't gotta
be famous. Have you ever been out with like like
your man and like none of his homeboys ever like
even talk to you, Like they just they just like
like you'll go down the line of like shaking someone's
hand and they just like skip you out of respect.
Like this whole idea around like being respectful and act

(21:32):
and ignoring the woman.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Is like so old.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's some. It's really some black people shit. And I
hate to say that about it.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I don't black people.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I don't see white men do that. I don't see
white I don't see white men do that.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
We don't be hanging around them. We don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I've been around the white men's They don't be ignoring
the fucking wives and shit like that. I see that
a lot in our culture, a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I never even considered if it was a black people thing.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
But maybe I mean, I'm or it happens on both sides,
but I say it's prevalent in our in our space.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Is it like an insecurity thing like or just like
it like yeah, I don't know respect yeah, but but
but but you don't want people to respect me, like
as a whole person. Like I think generally we've learned
in like the era of social media, is that society,
particularly men, don't respect whole women. They want you to
be like an avatar of who they think you're supposed

(22:26):
to be, not say much conservative, not have a history
like you want to. You want an ai girlfriend like
you don't want a real human or else. You wouldn't
even have these type of conversations because they do.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Though, because they they call the girl with the depth
and that's what they're cheating with, right while you got
old girl like the house, we shut the fuck up,
and then they.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Tell her all your business and write pillow talk. Yeah
you good advice.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Well, well, good news to them. I don't know if
you saw this today in the news. Not to interrupt
your news, but chatchy BT is going to now have
erotic interact actions for age verified adults on their app.
So yeah, just go get you a virtual bitch and
she'll be a very agreeing.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Can she suck your dick? Like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Phone sick?

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Probably because chat can generate images, so sure they're going
to really start charging for that.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's like chatg EPT is probably going to have like
an only fans tiers.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Of course they're trying to monopolize every every space. But anyway,
I'll long story short, go get you a build a
bitch if that's what you need, because I don't know,
I just feel like women the people just want women
to be quiet and just I don't know where else
they're supposed to share. I appreciate someone with her platform
being that, honest. I think a lot of women and
married people like want that and need that absolutely.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I don't know what just happened to Tam, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Keep going, she'll probably come back maybe. Yeah. I think
it's really important. I think it's really important that we
as women, especially women in our industry, as we talk
and we talk shit and and sometimes I know, like
we probably get backlash and niggas are trying to listen
to every episode so they can calculate what we did
last weekend, not anybody here or notthing, liar, I tell

(24:12):
all the things now, I know, I'm just fucking with you.
I think I think that there is it's really important
that women start to like stop being pigmies and start
living in their entire like their entirety, because then men
can men will can just be asexual and be together
and leave us the fuck alone if everyone and there's
not like women who are pretending to be half people

(24:34):
and pretending that they slept with three guys at thirty
because they're fucking lying like a motherfucker and like because
you want a man so badly. But the more that
we like be human and talk about it, then men
can stop like loving this fantasy like false sense of
what they thought we were because nigga, that's just not real.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Great man, yeah, man, And it's not all men, but
it's a large a large majority of them.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Fortunate because like the women women, women co signing what
they say just perpetuates this whole thing, like there's no
patriarchy unless women are upholding it, and unfortunately that's that's
what happens. So it's like women are literally the problem too.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Let's talk about that for one second. Y'all really think
we in a patriarchy?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Bitch? Hell yeah, stop. I'm gonna tell you why I
say that, right, because I.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Always say how some being submissive that is definitely an
ultimate form of manipulation, because your bitch is in the
bedroom telling you what to do.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
When you go out there.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Front everybody like it was your decision. There's always women
behind it scenes, from the mothers to the grandmothers to
everybody who are actually running things. And and I think
white women in particular, right they the ship that.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
There men do.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
They benefit off of it one hundred and they are
raising them right. So I just I just feel like
the matriarchy and do y'all even think we would be
okay in a in a society actually just straight meat,
absolutely crazy, No.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Absolutely, I think we'd be frolicking picking berries naked, that
everybody'd have equals everything because we rebirthing each other's babies,
and we'd go outside to fucking come back in the
gates and lock the doors because that's where violence and
conflict happened when the niggas come in. We fuck out there,
we come back and we'd be great, you know, go back.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Like the like listen to divine. Feminine is very very dark.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Oh it can't, it can be but chaos. I think
it gets darker when we don't have when we don't
have healthy outlets to be dark. I think it's when
you don't have a man or like a safe space
that says, oh, I under I see the entirety of you.
I see both sides embrace that we're so busy trying
to be fucking pick mees for a nigga like Cam Newton,

(26:50):
that we're like suppressing and suppressing and then we get
caddy with each other like that's my nagger or whatever
it is, and then like it creates, it creates us imbalance.
We're not we don't really know what we are because
we haven't been fully expressed. And so when you when
you suppress anything, just like a gay nigga who's acting straight,
you suppress it, he becomes crazy, he becomes violent because
he's not being himself. I think that is what creates

(27:10):
these like this deep imbalance. Wait, wait, aj, do you
think that if we you think do you think that
women are better like showing up in this way that
men can know its palatable?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Don't get it? Don't get it fucked up.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Women are the gods on a planet and this is
why these nigga's mad.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
But we got to confuse them to make them thinks
they're in control.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
I think that means like go ahead, oh sorry, go ahead, no, no, please.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I want to hear what you want to say. I
was just gonna say.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I think that even in a matriarchal society, and even
in like okay, we'll start with the matriarchal society, I
think that even in a matriarchal society, a true maker
matriarchal society understands the balance, like Mila said, of like
the need for the masculine to be there. It's not
about necessarily like everything is woman. That's it, right, you
know what I mean? And I think even the divine

(27:59):
feminine like to be divine is to be like to
be one with God. And if you're one with God,
then you also see the divine and the masculine. And
I think this whole idea of like divine femininity is
great as beautiful and I reflect it and I receive it.
But I also think my journey in understanding the divinity
of the femininity is also seeing the divinity in men,

(28:21):
and I think it's been like there's like always this
like agenda to separate us because there are a lot
of men that are not in their divinity, of course,
but then there are a lot that there are some
that are, you know, there are some that are willing
and open and want to listen to their women. And ultimately,
what makes a woman, what makes I think the divine

(28:43):
be able to be divine as far as it goes
with femininity, is being able to really rest in your femininity,
which requires the masculine to be present. And so I
don't think that like it's one or the other. I
think that there has to be both, you know. And
like I do think that we are in a patriarchal society.
We're seeing it, especially here in America. We're seeing how

(29:05):
how when it goes so far, how fucked up it
can get. Like our country is on fire, not quite yet,
not like literally yet, but it's like I feel like
we're heading towards that, unfortunately, and it's because there's a
lot of imbalance and a lot of white men making
a lot of decisions for women, and women are not

(29:26):
being heard and men and even black men. I was
just listening to fucking what's his name, Stephen that nigga
on ESPN. Oh my god, someone take him off the
air lord, please God fire his ass. Already they were
talking about him running for a politics.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I was like, oh, oh, yes.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
He's thinking about running getting into politics, and I'm like,
as haircut, get out of here.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Just like the fact that we have text on items
for women, it's proof that we live in a patriarchal.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
What what kind of tax?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Pink tax? Like pink so things that are pink of
a female's bike is more than a male's bike, a
pink bike.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Like we're making less money we're women.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It'll be the same razor, same package. If it's pink,
it costs a few cents more. We did a whole
episode all night on that, like things that are for
women are more expensive. Yes, that's why it.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Should be inflation on this plicity if you want it.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
It got to be inflation on the pussy baby.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
A lot to be a woman.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
It just costs a lot, So y'all got to pay
the I see, what are the usage tax?

Speaker 4 (30:39):
I think for us to become like back in balance,
like deeply in balance, Like there has to be like
a deep, like we have to come all the way
back and also wake the fuck up. Like I feel
like women are resurrecting right now, like there's a resurrection
of like the wild and free woman, So we're waking up.
But I think that because men have had this power trip,
this like toxic, this top masculinity for so long, it's violent,

(31:02):
Like I think we have to completely in some ways
pull back because it's like we see it. It's violent,
like they don't give a fuck about us because they've
lived in this this facade for so long. So I
just think, like for in order to find balance again.
Because of course there are good divine masculine men, of
course they exist, or else we'd all be single bitches,
but you know, we have uncles and fathers and things

(31:23):
like that. But it's like there has to be like
we have to starve these new niggas that with this
brain set like no pussy, no food, like just go away,
die off and don't procreate. Definitely don't put your seamen
in anybody with those fucking stupid thoughts.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
So yeah, but the bitches will never ever be on
the same page because there's always going to be somebody's couch.
This nigga can go to right. So I don't know
what do we do about the women? Because it starts
and ends with us.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
You go with them too.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
There might be a few, There might be some women.
Some women gotta die off too. They got some women
gotta go.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Choose the wrong one before we get off stupid internet news.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because we've been here for a long time. Have y'all
seen the headlines about us? Swee eat Ye, Sweety, former friends, Sweedy,
her former friend Mayback.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
May. I don't know if may is sure for madam,
but she's.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Basically saying that Sweety owes her some money cause she
put her down does European soccer player?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And like how I owe you for broken in Mikucci?

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Basically, So she's all I know is I love Sweety.
I want to be clear.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I love her too.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm a fan too.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Okay, and may Back, whatever the fuck your name is,
you should have got you should have collected your coins
ahead of time, honey. I don't know what to tell you.
You're doing bad business, bitch.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Bitch is because they put you with the baller. They
are owed. No, bitch, we was hanging out and I
got the baller, and you better shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
That's it unless we had unless.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
We had a contract, and if we don't have an agreement,
shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Now get your coins before come on, are you are
you a madam or not?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Beyonce's Internet bashing me like uh uh? And honestly, how.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Does this even become a headline? Because how much I
owe you? How much I'll right for my ship?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Exact?

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Like how did? How do we?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
How are we? Like? Yeah, how are we coming to
a final? Like cost of goods and services?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Like well, she's supposed to be coming out with receipts, so.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Girl, come out with them. I still love sweetie.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
She got invoices on Sweety Couci like, well five Sweety
fucked this baller in Africa at seventen.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I'm doing rid shit, pretty bit shit.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Like girl, leave that girl on her kouchie alone. Everybody
sold some pussy one way or another, okay, and they
didn't knowwe you shit?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
All right, y'all, we got we got a topic today,
the judgment Olympics from moms and single ladies. After this commercial,
we're going to get into it. We'll be right back,
all right, y'all. We're back, and it's the Judgment Olympics.
I don't know why I always laugh at that, what
because we don't really go no fucking wear.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Right, I'm like, do I need to do that?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah? I was taking that yesterday. We didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Because the way they be interrupting our conversation with ads abruptly,
I'm like, Okay, maybe we really need to be more
more diligent here.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, you added in there that way they don't break
your shit up because they will break it up they listen.
You might add it in there and your shit still
get broken up.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I know, girl, I know.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, So AJ you came up with this? What's
up with the judgment?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
All right? So today we're competing in the Judgment Olympics
twenty twenty five edition, because whether you're a single woman
or a mom with kids, society loves to hand out
unsolicited medals and criticism. Okay, So today's contestants, the co
hosts of Good Mom's Bad Choice.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Is and us we talk about podcasts. I'm gonna start
using like the things on this app.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Anyway, but we can add it in later in no words.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Right, So for the warm up, let's talk about like
some of the common stereotypes as a single moms that
you guys, hear a lot we're moms that are single
or y'all are in relationships now and right, but moms
that are single that.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
We have baggage and we're like unwanted ran through we're
still sucking our baby daddies and we were not to
be married. No one wants, No one wants to father
somebody else's kids.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
We're unavailable. We're unavailable. We're not sexy, even though we
had to be that we should that we shouldn't be dating,
and that we shouldn't be sexy, that we should wear
like certain conservative clothes.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh you're a mom now, yeah, why are you?

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Where's your kid? That's when you at the party at
midnight and the he's like, where's where sew? And so
nigga in the bed? Where do you think she's at
with her with her daddy? Like what right? Daddy?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Don't ever have to have the damn kids? Do they
even get do they even get asked that question?

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Not where's the kids?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I hate when niggas be like, I got a babysit, nigga,
that's your kid. You not babysitting that child. You're not baby,
that's your child. You don't babysit your own kid. You
are being a parent, So that's annoying.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
All right?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
What about all right? Aj me and you child free selfish?
Your clock is ticking, your clock ticking.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Oh no, this is the one I hate. And this
is from like the friends who have kids and family.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Who have kids.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Just because I don't have kids, that does not mean
I don't got shit to do. So I'm not sitting
home twittering my thumb with and for your ass to
hit me up to do something for you and your
fucking kids. And that's the one thing I really can't
stand because I'm just as busy even though I don't
have kids.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Are you gonna die along.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
And wait and give a fuck?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh you ain't got a kid yet, your pussy must
not be good.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I've had an abortion. This pussy is good.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
If you ain't never had an abortion, that pussy is
why shut up?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Unpopular opinion trigger warning, sexy warning. I don't know I.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Work another one. You're lonely.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
People with no kids just got all this extra money,
Like my nieces and nephews hit me up so much
for money, like it's just me paying all my bills, like,
your parents are together, I don't have extra money.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's not income house.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Or you're crazy. Oh she never, she ain't been married,
she got no kids. She probably crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I don't
like people say why don't you have any kids? That's
such a rude question.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
My ex fiance he had two kids at the time.
I've heard that he has since had two other I
don't even tell you about that shit, tam, because how
the fuck my mama know that? And I don't anyway,
my mom still talks to my ex fiance and she
doesn't see a problem with that. Do you realize, like
he probably thinks he was right in a relationship because

(38:32):
he still has access to you.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
You're an extension of me.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
But anyway, I would always like, I don't have to
be a mom to be a parents. I think a
lot of times people think that women with no kids
can't parent. Okay, I'm a mother at heart, so I
don't have to have kids to be a parent. So
this was being like an ongoing argument and that relationship
because just because you have kids that do not.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Automatically mean you're a good parent. That sometimes the longer.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
You wait to have kids, you see things like I
might have a little bit extra information gathered from everywhere
watching everybody else parents. You know, I know what I
want to do as a parent and what I wouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I don't know. I think the longer you wait, you
get more information.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
But it ain't nothing like the real deal though, No.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Absolutely listen, I'm not trying to discredit parents at all.
I'm just saying, do you get offended when you said?
Do you get offended when people say why don't you
have any kids? You get offended when they ask you
when are you having kids?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Is that the same thing?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Both of those. It's like, bitch, if I knew, I get,
I tell you right, I don't know when I'm having kids.
How the fuck am I going to answer that question
for you tomorrow? I don't know?

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Or do you want kids? Is that also? Like like
you get offended with someone.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Do you want kids? You know? That's not offensive, It's
just why don't you have kids? Because I could say
some shit that will make us both uncomfortable. I do it,
and sometimes I double pregnancies.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I go ahead and make everybody uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
If God will, and I have one I've had two
tuber pregnancies and they like, oh, yeah, because you should
not be asking women I believe.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Over thirty why they don't have kids.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Wait, is that true? Or you just do that to
make them feel un comforted.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's true, it's true.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, So you should not ask women of a certain
age why they don't have kids. If they want kids,
just mine your business, That's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I agree, wrong, I agree, I agree?

Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, So let's talk about why people just so
hard though? All right, Oh, we just talked about the
patriarchal expectations of motherhood. Do y'all feel like y'all need
to fit into the mold? Well? No, y'all know, y'all
don't feel like girl.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
We back good minds about choices.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Our entire podcast is about it.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I think we did it. We've done everything except do
that hard, move ian very hard, swung hard.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
To the other side.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Okay, but when you were like new mothers, did you
have like did people's judgments affect your confidence and you're
dating your friendships?

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Were you affected by that as very young mothers?

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I think I noticed when people were being judgmental, like,
especially when I broke up with my child's father, and
I was going out and I was outside, I could
see even some of my friends who hadn't had kids
yet were like, oh, you're out, You're out a lot,
or whatever their comments were. But I've always been pretty
like clear about the balance in like having a life,
like mama got to have a life too, because my
parents were kind of like that. But I think people

(41:40):
are very judgmental about that, especially women against women is
because they are when you see someone that is exuding
and existing in a way that you think that you can't,
you're gonna project and you're gonna feel away about it
because bitch, you're over there knitting sweaters and baking cakes
so and you wish you were getting your black back
blown out, and you know daddy was doing something, but
he's watching fucking football and ignoring the fuck out of

(42:02):
you and that kid, Yeah, you're gonna feel a way.
One time I went I went to a party of
this guy. I was like a small dinner party. I
was like some white people and they were like, I
was talking about my daughter and I was like no,
me and her dad broke up, like oh my god,
oh god, I'm so sorry, Like, oh god, that seems
so hard. That's like so hard. I was like, no,
actually not, that's not nothing to be sorry about. I'm

(42:25):
doing great. Actually, God's plan for my life, right, I
get the best of both worlds.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
So yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I think
me and Mila have had different journeys as early as
moms early on, because I definitely felt myself when I
got pregnant starting to kind of fall into society's expectations
around what motherhood was supposed to look like.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
And that wasn't just from society, that was also my family.
And so prior to having my daughter, I was like,
just I'm a free spirit.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I smoke a lot of weed.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I moved how I wanted to move. I was probably
financially irresponsible because I didn't have anything to worry about
except myself. And when I became a parent, like it
was like, oh, y erca, you know, you can't do
that no more. You can't do that no more, you
can't do that any more. And I almost fell into
that trap. And I think that's one of the things
that me and Mila share a lot on our on

(43:27):
our show, is like that was the beginning of good
mom's bad choices. Was me meeting Mela and her mirroring
the things that I wasn't allowing myself to experience and
realizing that like I was heading on down a path
of imprisonment. And it's and it's interesting because like the
person that I was with my child's father, he's not

(43:49):
like a traditional man, like he's outside, you know, Like
I wasn't like about to wrap up my life with
like a like a god fearing in the house nigga,
like like he spent like half my pregnancy at the
strip club, you know what I'm saying. So that even
tells you even more. And he wasn't even that was
not his expectation of me either, you know. So it

(44:12):
was really like the programming, really it's so deeply ingrained
in women from such a young age with us like
caring for babies and playing house and you know, like
these roles really being shoved down our throats and society
doesn't help. And so I you know, I'm grateful for

(44:33):
my friendship with Jamila because it reawakened what was already
inside of me, like what I had already been. I
was already that girl. It was just that when I
became when I went into motherhood. I felt like I
had to. That girl had to die. And granted, when
your mom like you do, you rebirth into something else,
but like the old parts of you are still there
and in fact, like they deserve to be watered and
your child deserves to see you show up as a

(44:55):
whole human and like understand who their parent is because
and ultimately that bitch go par out or she's just
gonna literally die and be depressed. And I think we
see a lot of maybe our parents, we see like
what that does to them. We see like these shells
of these women and like we have like, oh, your
mom used to be that girl. I'm like, what the

(45:16):
fuck happened? I don't know that girl, you know. And
it's like it almost feels like a fable, like a
story time where it's like is that real? Like my
mom was that? And unfortunately, I think a lot of
women fall into that trap when they don't have to.
So if you're listening to this and you're a mom,
you're falling into that trap. Just come over to Good Moms.
Let's start at episode one, take the journey with us.
Because when I started episode one, like I was just

(45:39):
kind of like coming out of it. And I think
it's really important for mothers to really evaluate themselves and
give themselves the time and space to really evaluate who
they are now and how they and what parts of
the former. And I say that with air quotes of
you that you want to bring into this space, because
it's important to not just let that person go, right, because.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
That's what Asha Curry is essentially experiencing.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
She has fomo a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
You know, she might have felt like she missed out
on some things, or I mean, she has the means
and the resources to do whatever it is that she wants,
but it's something there because she never got to discover
exactly who she was before having to take care of
somebody else and who who don't have kids. It's not
selfish not to want to be responsible for somebody else
for the rest of your life.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
It's crazy. It's a crazy response.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Not every person needs to be a parent. A lot
of parents don't even need to be parents, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Did y'all ever feel like your relationships with your friends
shifted once she became moms?

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Yes? Absolutely, I was outside. I was an outside girl.
I had friends that just stopped calling me, you know,
they didn't really. I remember specifically, I had a situation
one of my best friends at the time. I was
so excited to tell her I was pregnant. I was
living in New York when I found out I was pregnant.

(47:05):
So I came back to LA and I sat down
with her and my other friend and I was like,
I have something to tell you guys. And before I
could even tell her, she was like, you're pregnant. And
I was like, yeah, I am, and she's like I know,
and then just like just like didn't want to know
anything else. Like I was shocked. I was like, what
the fuck, bitch like, and then after that, I like

(47:26):
barely ever heard from her again. It was the weirdest thing,
and so I don't I still don't really know what
that was. It was like, maybe it was like she
was mad that she was gonna have to share me.
She felt like we couldn't relate anymore. She was jealous.
I mean, I don't really like to go straight to
jealousy with women, because I think that's what we do
a lot. But I just don't. I don't know what
that was. And I'm sure that maybe there's other women

(47:48):
that maybe relate to it. But I know for me,
like motherhood really showed me who my friends were, and
it continues to it shows me even like with partners,
like what who was really open, really down for me?
And who isn't?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I would say that that didn't really happen to me.
I had I was the first person in my friend
group to have a kid, and I do feel like
everybody really rallied around me and was like my baby daddy.
So I had like a lot of baby daddies and
like because there was no other kids, it was kind
of like a fun group project. Look, we have a baby.

(48:26):
But you know, it was kind of fun that way.
But I think there were some things that like people
didn't understand. Like there was a time where I was
like about my baby daddy, like this is not gonna work.
I can't stand him, or like or I would talk
shit about him because it was time for me to leave,
and then they would be like why don't you leave,
Why don't you leave? Why don't you leave? And I'm like,

(48:47):
you don't understand. You know, I had this. I'm trying,
like you're not black, you don't understand. I don't want
to be a baby mama, like making a lot of
excuses for what that meant to me, because I think
for as a black woman being with my child's father,
it was like there was a like a stereotype I
was trying to break, Like I didn't want to fall
into that to the point where I'd be like at
museums or at Disneyland like with my family, like miserable inside.

(49:10):
But look, that's the dad, that's the mom, and that's
the kid. Bitches, Okay, black families stay together. So I
think there I had something to prove in that way,
but it was not in the sense that like my
party friends fell off.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I think anytime one of my old ast friends have
a baby, I'd be like, girl, your time is coming up.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I'm so happy when the old bitches have a baby.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Okay, I'm gonna be looking at old bitch having a baby.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
So you want another kid? I want more kids?

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yeah, yeah, I do. But I have a timeline in
which I would let in which I would want that
to happen, and if it doesn't, then I'm.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Cool and aj I know you're trying to have a
baby every weekend.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah, yeah, I was very sad this weekend because my
fucking period came on.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Okay, Oh, so you're you're you're like actively if if
it happens, it happened.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So two weeks ago, I intentionally was trying to get
trying to get pregnant.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Two weeks ago, are you are you you're picking them?
You're picking them well right, like you're you're making sure
that they're like genetically they're okay as well.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yes, And I'm also I was also trying to have
a Gemini.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
So now let me tell you I have a Gemini baby. Daddy,
don't recommend.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
No, she was a Gemini bababy.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
The baby, So I missed my deception window for the
Gemini baby because I'm a Gemini.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
My mom is a Gemini. My grandmother was a fucking Gemini.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Oh you're trying to keep it going, Okay, I see.
So it's a legacy, Yeah, a Gemini legacy.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
So my legacy is fucked up because now, like at
this point, I'll be trying to get pregnant next year,
I'm be forty three.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Trying to have a baby.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Babe.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Just a Gemini timeline.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
We don't need any more Geminis in the world. We
just just keep sucking.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I could do Virgo or Libra, and that's it.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I can't do. I can't do no fucking virgo child.
That wouldn't work for me.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I'm Virgo rising. I could do it, I would.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Get on their nerves.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I still want to. Like my desire to be a
mother is starting to dwindle a little bit as I
get older. I just feel like my window is closing
on me. But I'm just terrified still to be pregnant again.
Let me say that pregnant or births?

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Are you terrified about the actual birth?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
The whole process. The whole process just makes me scared,
Like I wish I could skip that part.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
And just have my bitches are doing it every day.
Bitches are sarrogating, surrogated whatever their lives away. So it's
not not an option.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Not impossible, right, But then I don't Also, I also
at the same time don't want.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Somebody else when you put yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Because there has even though they say, oh, it's your
your DNA, there has to be some of this other
bitch DNA in my band's.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
The science I know, the real.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, it's all like in his too, Like.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
I don't know's gonna be a little confused because.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
No throble baby.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Yeah, that's baby Polly pregnancy.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Right, So y'all we want to play again. Do you
have any more questions? I want to play? Would you
rather go?

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Go? Go?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Okay, so we're gonna play a game with y'all real quick.
Would you rather right? So the first one is would
you rather have a man who worships you but has
no ambition or a man who challenges you but triggers
you all the time? B?

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Yeah? B gosh, you know what?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I think that all I don't know relations are going
to trigger you all the time. Like it's you're in
a relationships, most close relationships are going to trigger you.
Because that's the whole point of this game of life.
It's like if you were alone and you locked yourself
in your apartment, you're only around those two friends that
don't trigger you. They know what to say and not
to say. That you're not growing, You're not going to evolve.

(53:18):
It's like the triggering leads you to more depths of yourself.
Why did it, sugar me? Why am I feeling this way?
And this is for a person who gets triggered very easily.
And I'm triggered right now and I'm annoyed, and I
don't even want to take my own advice. But that's
the truth.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
You know what. I think that if I was with
a man who worshiped me but had no ambition, I
would be triggered. Also, probably I probably would rather just do.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Be Let's see. Would you rather build him up or
find him built but boring?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I can't do boring. I will build him up. I'll
get that wardrobe, we'll go to the mall. Baby, we'll
put on some jeans. I look put on that hat. Yep. No,
I'm not doing anything boring because you're gonna I'm gonna
cheat on you.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
It's happened. I'd rather build you up. Come on, baby,
let's build a bear you let's go. You know, a
bitch loves a project.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Bitches love projects.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Oh here's a good one. Would you rather feel safe
but unseen or seen but uncertain?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I don't like none of those options.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Wait, say but unseen, seen but uncertain. I would rather
be seen. I would rather be seen and uncertain because
then I'm gonna break up with you anyway. But at
least while we're together, I'm thinking I feel seen, you know,
like it's like.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
It is it Stevie wonder, like, what do you mean
he can't like if you see me, they're gonna see me.
I ain't no not seeing this nigga.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Or maybe he's not like inviting you out stuff like that.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
You just feel you're there, but you're not there.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
You know, I don't like any of those options.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Okay, I actually saw this on Instagram. You know how
those people be on the street asking questions, would you
rather be a side chick to a star NBA player
or married to a loyal, average salary man b.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
B That A would be your a groupie? Bitch? If
you just answered A, you are a groupie. Okay, you
probably knew that.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Already in the on the Instagram post.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
The guy then says, well, the guy only makes like
sixty thousand a year and the.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Girls like sixty thousand. Like that is the.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Average person's salary, is what we're talking about? What a
lot of places, well we're in the South. Were in
the South, right, that's a lot black people. What do
you think the average income for a black man is?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Can you even live off of sixty thousand dollars?

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Yeah? In other places?

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, y y'all can in LA for sure, one hundred
thousand dollars a year is the average.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
That's not the average, not even in LA.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Not even clothes. No, it's probably probably like seventy five,
probably like fifty honestly, because think about.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Because together we're going to combine our income, so you know,
we'll be had that one twenty together and we can
get a cute, little cavicul little lifestyle and wherever the
fuck that takes us.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
So this this is from twenty twenty three, and it
says that average, this is for black persons.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
It says fifty four thousand.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
That's what I said about, fifty thousand is the average.
You gotta think about these small towns and these small
places where it's more of that than everything else.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
You know, yeah, I forget that. There's like all those
states in between.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Y'all listen, catch a man cheating with someone batter or
is someone basic in crocs?

Speaker 4 (56:54):
I were crocs today, bitch?

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Wait, what was the first one?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Catch your man cheating with someone batter than you? Like
a batter bitch with crocs on.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
It's gonna have to be be. I can't handle I
can't handle a I'm gonna be mad. I didn't be
able to talk shit to my friends. I didn't talk
shit to my friends, and that bitch was ugly. That's
because I'm shallow.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I need the bitch to be batter or comparable. I
cannot stand a nigga who doesn't.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Have like standard.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
You don't have, Yeah, you don't have no standards like I've.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Literally never in my whole I've never in my long
life of being cheated on, ever, ever been cheated on
with a bitch better than me.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
And it doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
It just doesn't cheating. Then it's cheating. It's just a
bitch batter.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
It just doesn't happen. And I'm not even saying that
because I'm like, I am pretty fine myself, but I'm
just always astonished. I'm always like, Nigga, what what if it's.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Not batter than you? They stepped out not cheating? What if?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
What if like she's but ugly like this ugly saying
I have seen some some some fucked up ship to
where it's like Nigga, where I'm offended Because this I'm offended.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Yes she has one eye or one arm y'all.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I have only reached out to a bitch one time
in life about a nigga, and it was because I
could not believe this nigga was fucking this Walrus.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I could not believe it.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Like and I messaged the bitch on Instagram and she
didn't respond. She read my message, didn't respond, and then
she told him I messaged her messaged her. I could
not believe how this person look I just I like
I needed to hear it from her that he actually
fucked her.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
I would prefer to see the bad bitches.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Please please fuck some bad bitches, because I can't understand
when you're fucking on.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
No, I need her to be ugly, but not now
I'm offended, like, don't be cut know why?

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I mean, I don't even I don't know if I
can even answer that question because it's never happened. Like
maybe I would be like so hurt if she was.
I mean, I was hurt even when she was ugly,
so like imagine she was fine, Like maybe I would
be super devastated.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
I've never experienced it, Like ugly bitches have hurt my
feelings too, So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
The point is, it's always gonna hurt your feelings, but
it's gonna hurt more. It's gonna hurt worse either way.
If she's extremely not to your level, and also if
she's way better than you, it's gonna hurt both Ways's
gonna be offended? Are you gonna be like? What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Right?

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Because if she's bad like she got like, I don't know,
is I gonna make me be like, damn? Do I
need to get my like? Maybe my ass isn't bigger
than maybe I need to put a little someone in there,
like damn, she got bigger titties? Do I need a
bigger like? I don't even want to go down that route.
So I'm actually grateful for thank you. I want to
personally thank all my old hoes, all my my baby daddy,

(59:55):
and everyone else from my past that fucked with ugly bitches.
Thank you, Thank you so much for be my confidence
high true?

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Amen?

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Would you rather have a man who moans louder than
you or one who doesn't make a sound at all?

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Loud man louder? Yeah, let me know this pussy's good nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Anything worse than a silent fun like yeah, like nigga
e be dead, Like what's going on? I love like
growl in my ear?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Yeah, do something. Somebody I posted something reposted something yesterday
that said if you're if you're a woman who likes
male moans, you're a hoe it' said guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Well listen sometimes like I was dating this guy and
I liked everything about him. He would have been a
great husband, but I hated how he came, Like I
broke up with him because how.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
He know, well, how did he do it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Bru He sounded like a cartoon villain. He was like,
that's how he came.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
You should have got him like a like I want
to guide in him on that a count.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
You should have made him a vampire for Halloween or something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Why did he come like that? He was like, I'm
just so filled with joy and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
You left him? Bitch, you go now, you gotta go.
Theory because he was a joy was scary.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I was a happy man, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Well I don't like though. What I don't like is
too much of a talking ass nigga during sex, Like
just shut the fuck up, Like not like I don't
need you're not moan, but like you're talking too much.
I can't focus, just like I had a guy trying
to tell me what to say, like I get it,
like sometimes that's cool, but like it was throughout the
whole experience, And so I gave him a second chance

(01:01:38):
and he did it again, and I was like, like,
let what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Was he telling you to say? What was he telling
you to say?

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Like, tell me how good this stick is? Tell me
how good it is? Tell me tell me. Then he
said like, tell me how how good my body looks?
And I was like, whoa, this is ship with me.
Talk to your therapist. I don't know what's happened it
in here. Not talk to your therapist. That might be
that might be a lame like sex therapist. That's gonna

(01:02:06):
tell you like how good you look. It's gonna be
like therapize you while your dick is inside of her.
Well that's a lot of sacrifice, It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Did you tell them just like I did?

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I did? I definitely, because like he was like what hey.
At that point, I was just like just don't stop.
I'll say whatever you want, but like this is the
last time. Yeah, you can talk me through a bit.
Don't be asking for compliments. Was he a pisces? Probably
low key? I need to go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Look, I hate people talk too much and you're like
your ear is here.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
You're like, huh what, Yeah, that's happened to the keep
saying things are mumbling.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
And like, nig I can't hear you. Stop talking to me,
like I'm just the haunt is taking me out of it,
Like just fucking what. I can't read your lips. I
can't see you. What the are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I was sticking these niggas. Do what you came to do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Right, all right, when the lottery, but lose your best
friend or stay broke, but keep your tribe it broke
as fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Like broke forever.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Like I don't like these questions. We're witches. This is
what happened to us. This is not how we We don't
manifest like this. This is not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
I don't want to be a lonely rich bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Yeah, Like, who are gonna go on the yacht with?
Like who's gonna be theych, who's gonna be in the PJ?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So many people I know exactly who the I want
to see having a good ass time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Okay, I gotta take all the people. Yeah, I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That that question because I can't. I can't figure one
to choose either, because we're just gonna have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
To be broke. Well, we have to figure it out, like
for a while, girls, you just sell some pussy. I'm
gonna be broke. Why would I be broke? What does
that make sense to anyone?

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
No last one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I have a man who makes you laugh but never commits,
or one who commits but never compliments you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Y'all haven't been with somebody who never complimented you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I probably didn't even notice for real, for real, It's
like I'm used to that. Like it's when someone compliments
me where I'm like, oh okay, wow, that's a lot relaxed.
It's like I'm not good at like. But now that
I have that, I don't think I would be able
to be a someone who like didn't notice little things
or compliment me with bother me.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Laughing goes a long way with me. What was what
was the what makes me laugh? But what won't commit?

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Won't commit? He won't commit?

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Oh that was like my baby daddy. We did it
for seven years. Though he made me laugh for a
long time. That that laughing, that laughing sustained me for
some time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
We forgot about the other bitches. It was so some
I was just like, just.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Keep with the no compliment. I don't know. I'm an
words I'm a words of affirmation type of a I'm
a words of affirmation type of lover. Like that's what
I give, and it says feel nice to receive it.
I have, like my partner now is very much like
affirms me a lot, and I appreciate that because I

(01:05:22):
think I think I've had it in the past, but
maybe not to the extent that I get it now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Facts, that's that's what I'm experiencing too. I had an
ex who would never, like verbally compliment me. He would
wait till I leave the house and like text me like,
you look you looked good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Meanwhile, like when he putting that shit on because I
bought it, like I'm like, man, you look so good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Never never, what is that? I don't know, hater. I
think a lot of people be in relationships with men who.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Well, yeah, they're like I don't want you to get
a big head. I want you to have a big head,
Like what what are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I've had a guy who would be like his compliments
would be like you think you cute, like it would
always be like some kind of life.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
I'm not undercutting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
I feel like that's black people. Shit. I feel like
that's like black people, Like that's how my family talks
to each other. Like I feel like it's true. Like
I know that it sounds strange, but I don't know,
like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Where you think you going.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Yeah, right, that for me, my pussy got away, Like
now I'm toxic, all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
So after this commercial break, we are going to get
some dumb bitch stories from good Mom's bad Choices.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Okay, So I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
And we're back, all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
So we have uh dumb bitch stories for the women
and stimp series for the men. Okay, so we need
a dumb bitch storre. This is just a time or
a situation where you got played. And I don't know
how y'all get down by the same or opposite sex.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It could be either or.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
I've shared this story before on the Pot, but this
is a first for y'all. So well, my dumbitch story
started once upon a time I was walking in uh
on fourteenth Street. I just got off the train and
there was this fine guy. He was, but he was
out there. He was like he's kind of short, which
I'm not really into the short kings too much, like
I have I make a few exceptions, but he was

(01:07:36):
out there selling. He was like selling like feed the
children type packages, like like sponsor a child in Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Was he really working for non problem?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
He was. I really did feed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
I fed. I fed Zach for a good three hundred
and sixty five days. Okay, So anyway, he brought he top,
he took me to Starbucks, sold me on the package,
got it. He was. He was really fine to me
at the time. He told me that he was a model,
and so I was like, oh my god, what model.
And he had the pictures ready. It was like a

(01:08:13):
Calvin Klein ad that he had done, a VERSACEI ad,
but like all the pictures were kind of like from
the side, and he was Dominican, so he you know,
he had a specific He's like kind of he was Dominican,
but he kind of like Puerto Rican. Whatever. Anyway, long
story short I saw these pictures. My friends had started
to do research because they didn't trust him. They're like,
I don't think that's really him in the picture and

(01:08:35):
I was like, yes, it is girl, like it is him.
So anyway, we started, we're continuing to date long distance.
He's in New York, I'm in LA. I'm being a
dumb bitch and so I have a really good job
at the time, so I'm flying him out to LA.
He got no funds, but he had a big old dick,

(01:08:55):
big old dick. You're kings, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Oh listen, I'm a short nigga advocate. I always say that,
like they be little and big at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Okay, not Avidge.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
Anyway, you know, he because we were long distance, there's
a level of trust that you have to have. And
he was always telling me like he had his best friend.
He had this best friend but she only had one arm,
so she was handicapped. And he was like, you know,
I'm hanging out with Andrea, and so he was like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Very he was really adamant about like this is like
my best friend from childhood.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
I never and my stupid ass, I never asked for
no pictures. This was before like social media too, Like
we Instagram wasn't really big. I think I don't even
think I had joined Instagram yet at this point, so
I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, I mean cause I had
male I had male friends as well, and in the past,
like I had been in relationships where men had like
really are boys, I would say I had really like
had taken issue with my male friendships. And so he wasn't.

(01:09:56):
So I was not going to ruffle no feathers because
I was like, yeah, they could go ahead, have your friend.
I have my friend. We're cool. Long story short, I
get an email one day from a bitch named Andrea
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Talking about I heard I found out that you are
seeing my my man and I was like, who is
your man? And she told me it was this nigga.
And I said, let me ask you a question. Do
you have one arm?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That's all I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Want to fucking know. Over there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Her strong hand, she said, bitch, what are you talking about? No,
but then she said do you have one arm? Because
he had also told her that he had a friend
in La with one arm that he goes and visits
is his best friend from back in the day. And
I only got one bitch. So so then I was like, Okay,

(01:10:58):
that's crazy. But also I have one final question, is
Is this him? Are these his pictures? Is he a model? No, bitch,
this was not him in any of the pictures. So
I was basically just dating a whole lie, just fucking
not a model that I thought he was. I was
really thinking like he was gonna make it out of
like the Child Africa scheme he was in, and he
was going to be a top model, and also that

(01:11:20):
he was just loyal to me, and he was just
so kind. He had this one arm bestie, and come
to find out, we both were handicapped. Bitch. Okay, so
that's my dumb bitch story. And that went on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Was with him for a year. That was a year
of my life, y'all. And then he proposed. Oh then
he dang.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Oh yeah, he did propose to me one day one
time when I flew him to LA we had sex
on my friend's couch and while he was inside of me,
he pulled out the tiniest diamond ring I've ever seen,
and I said yes. So that adds to the dumb bitchness.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Oh dumb, Sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
We had that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Girl.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
I still got the ring too. I never gave that
bitch back because it costs about probably forty two dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Oh goodness in love.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
I don't know if I could every now and then
I go check on him on his Instagram, see what
he's up to. Still fucking lying and scheming, trying to
be a singer, rapper or some shit.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
What's yours.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
I can't. I want to say, did I do this?
That's some pretty dumb bitch shit, Like Erica probably does
my dumb shit better than me, because I.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
Can think of one in particular. Actually, okay, the dog,
I near gonna say that. Okay, it wasn't that bad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
But one time I really needed to get an apartment
and my credit wasn't good, so I needed to scheme
into So my homegirl was like, call this guy. He
could hook you up. He's gonna do X, Y and Z.
So I was like, okay, call the guy, pay him
his little five hundred. So I think I got the apartment.

(01:13:13):
I think I had like some kind of Stockholm syndrome
because I was like, oh my god, he got me
this apartment. I was really struggling before, like thank god.
So like he had a real deep voice and I
was like, where are you from, like you know, trying
start a conversation with the niggas doing the scheming because
I'm stupid, I'm a cancer. I'm like, oh my god,
we gonna love each other. And then one day he

(01:13:33):
facetied me. He had this big old smile, got freckles,
kind of light skinned. I was like, oh my guy,
he's gotta fine. I was like Erica, Erica, the man
who helped me with the with the stuff. He's fine.
So I was like all giddy. I was like, you know,
you said you want to come to La, Like you
should come out and visit me. Like yeah, So he
comes to La and then he he gets up the car.

(01:13:56):
He's like this big He's with a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Big old head and a little body. He looked like
a big nigga, you know how like big niggas got
big heads, like on the FaceTime. He looked like he
could be around six feet tall.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
So then erics like, you can't fuck him, Like if
you all have a baby, it's gonna be too little.
I was like, shut up. But to make matters worse,
he came down. He did have a big ass dog
and let him and the dog come.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
He brought a dog with him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Yeah, and on top of it, he was a Muslim,
so he was one of those niggas. One time we
had a conversation and he was like, yeah, you know,
I don't know the word of the Muslims. Like if
my brother, if I go to my brother's house, my
e hum or, whatever the fuck they be calling each
other and his wife goes in the back room. I said,
like a dog, like we're talking about in her house.

(01:14:48):
If you come over, she goes in the back room,
so you don't have to speak, I said, oh, nigga.
So then I had this complex I'm and he like
really did love horse, So he would like talk like salaciously,
But then I also be talking this Muslim shit, and
then I would like sit there and watch fary con
fhary Con documentaries with him and be like yeah, I understand,

(01:15:09):
and then I let him kind of move in basically,
but wait.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
But why what kind of sex were you having that
he was mind fucking you with?

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
But wait, what kind of sex are you having?

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Oh you don't remember, No, you guys were having like
you guys were role playing like trigger warning.

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
No bitch, wait, hold up, hold on, now I don't
remember tell it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
Wait, there's gotta you gotta do. She was long story short,
she was digmatized. Okay, there was something going on sexually
that had her digmatized.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Not trigger warning, bitch, oh my god. But then he
was like mind fucking me, Like he wasn't eating my
he was like talking super sillatiously. But then he's like,
wasn't eating my pussy? And like, my, nigga, like you've
been You've been around here for a long time, Like
I started to notice there was like a mind manipul
and he would talk salaciously, but then like be like, oh,
you're gonna wear that, and I'm like, nigga, you just
tell me love hordes. I'm so confused. And like he

(01:16:06):
would talk, he would use like those big jail words
like under circumstantial understanding of spirituality, and I was like,
you're so smart. Anyway, I let him move in and
he was bipolar and he was having manic episodes occasionally,

(01:16:27):
and then I told all my friends that it was
over and that he had moved out and I'm not
talking to him anymore. And then one time I was
on the phone with Erica and I was like yeah,
uh huh, and then all of a sudden, the background
was like she was like, bitch, and I was like.
She was like, is that fucking man and that fucking

(01:16:49):
dog over there? And I was like, huh, I'll call
you back. And I was like, what the fuck did
you shut the dog up? Nigga? I told you no, man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Not going to see a man with a whorse a
man with a dog.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
And then I continued the ridiculous relationship until one day
he slapped me in my face and I was like, oh,
god's really trying to try me right now, Like are
you a real dumb bitch? And then like Erica was
like just picking me up and I got in the
car and she was like what's wrong? And I was like, he.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Was conditioning you the whole time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Oh yeah, like hardcore. I was like totally unattached. And
then it switched and then I was acting nuts. She
was like a like on crack. She was like a
crackhead for this dick, okay, crack stot status.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It was what the trigger warning was?

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I think was it like was it like rape play?
Is that what it was? Okay, I don't even remember that.
I've blocked it out, but yeah, I'm pretty I like
for someone to take it a little bit. So maybe
he went all the way, yeah a bit. Yeah, he's
like choking ed this whole. This is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Like I want to planned one, like plan it, Like, yeah,
it's planned, it was planned.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
I was like, it was consensual, non consensual. It's that's
a real word in the kink, consensual, non consensual. So
I was really into that he was. He was an Okay,
this is the thing aj those short niggas, And this
is where all the ladies listening. Those short niggas do
be packing sometimes okay sometimes, but also with short niggas,
they've had to they've had to compensate for their height
their whole life, so they come with a lot of

(01:18:27):
buried testosterone that comes out unhealthy. So they might slap you.
They're going to mind fuck you, and they probably have
really worked on their their their talking and their sex
game really good because that's how they brain fuck you.
So if they come and have all this chemistry and
they stare deep into your eyes, run, bitch, run, they're
trying to mind fuck your brain.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Mine used to drool on me. Imagine somebody drooling on
you while you having sex.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
They just he would growl like and then he would
do like he would do Arabic prayer like Mama, I'd
like I'd be like, oh my god, he loved me
so much. He made it was he was just like saying, oh,
ba blah blah like I don't even know the words anymore,
a blah blah like he would like pray after he
fucked me. And I was like, it was like, that's

(01:19:13):
why I don't really fuck with Kevin Gates because I
see that same demon. Like there's like a similar there's
like a sex demon that lives in like in like
certain type of men where they act like they love
the horrishness about you, but then they tried to do
like some religious ship. They try to like use big words.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I'm just so glad Draca left his ass because it's
almost like he was starting to look like her, like
he was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I can see that he was draining the fuck out her.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Is that what happened to? Nigga started drading you, you start
looking they started looking like start looking like I don't know,
do they not look alike? Yeah? I'm happy too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
She's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
She's probably getting dicked down by healthy dick by now amen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Yeah today, all right, ladies, Yeah, this was so much fun.
Y'all are so funny. Tell everybody where they can find you,
plug all your things.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
I'm Mela. You can find me on Instagram at Mela
with an h underscore map with two p's follow the
good Vibe re Treat. We are going on lots of
international trips next year. If you have kids or a
job and you need to put that shit down for
a minute and find yourself and go hang out with
some bad bitches and smoke weed and haul at the
moon and think about your motherfucking self, this is the

(01:20:28):
trip for you. It is just the best woman summer camp,
winter camp, whatever camp you can ever attend. We have
Jamaica April seventeenth to the twenty second. It's for four twenty.
You don't have to smoke weed to come, but if
you do, puff puff pass beach. Everything's included. You don't
have to worry about shit at getting yourself there, and

(01:20:48):
then we take care of everything after that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
And make sure you follow us at Good Mom's Underscore
Bad Choices on Instagram and listen to our podcast. If
you like this podcast, you're gonna love our podcast. And
you can follow me at watch Erica and buy our book,
A Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad choices. It's like
the Bible for moms.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
If you have a friend who's about to have a baby,
and yeah, just give her that book too. That's a
good baby shower book.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Amen. All right, ladies, thank y'all so much. This is fun,
and I'm definitely coming on the four to twenty trip.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Oh yeah, come, I'm gonna send you all that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
I'm gonna text you thenk right now, yeah really there,
y'all be doing rituals, mammy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Yeah, and we have payment plans so you have months
and months and months to make small payments so it
doesn't feel so overwhelming. Come on, girls, Okay, I'm about
to put the tech message.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Yeah, okay, all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
If y'all enjoyed this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday
on the iHeartRadio app Away but the fuck you get
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Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Kick it Tam, y'all is official Tam Bam on Instagram.
Once again. I love y'all so very very much, y'all.
Remember speak now, I.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Don't know never hold them never heard you forever, hold
your peace forever.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
We kind of switched it up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
A little bit, who's on or what we talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
So never hold them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Bad choices speak.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
Forever hold them titties.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
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Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
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