A Conversation with Justin Long

Ahead of his first appearance on New Girl, we're joined by actor, writer, and director Justin Long. He recounts his time on the set, his friendship with the hosts, and tells us a bit about his upcoming projects. As always, we take a stroll to the back of Nick's Closet, to unearth Justin's favorite memory of his time on the show. If you'd like to ask us a question, please send an email to [e-mail]. Follow us on Instagram @welcometoourshowpod.

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ring ring ring ring. May I please speak with Zoe?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh hello, Lamurn, Let's Patch and Hannah.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
God, I forgot what it was like working with you guys.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hello, friends, Welcome to our show. It's the New Girl
Rewatch podcast. I'm Zoe and I'm here with hell Morn.
Hanna's taking the day off today. Our guest is Justin Long.
You know him from cult classics like Jeepers, Creepers, Drag
Me to Hell, Dodgeball, and Galaxy Quest. And he's Alvin
and the Alvin and the Chipmunk series. But mainly you

(00:48):
love him most as Paul Genslinger on New Girl. Please
welcome the talented writer, director, producer, and actor Justin Long
to our show. Welcome to John.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes, what's up dude?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, Zoe? What are you eating?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm sorry? I like took some pretzels. Oh, Stash, Are
you haven't grown.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
A lot lentils?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You see that?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Like it?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That was obviously no lentils, not it. It's obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
By the way, it's snack time.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm having lentils, you dummy, dummy.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
It's lentil hour. No, you don't have pretzels during lentil time.
Fucking weirdo.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's two o'clock. We have lentils.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Now, what is this bracket set up? You got there?
Justin that's a pretty cool setup.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh thanks, it's the company I do my podcast with
Life is Short is Wondering.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
They give you, They give you your own booth.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
No, I'm I'm I mean I usually do it out
of my home, which is where we did ours Lemorn.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Friend of the show Lo More and Morres, and.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thanks for I thought I was a friend as well.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
You your episode doesn't come out yet.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
He doesn't count yet future friend, lois.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You a friend of mine? Not yet? Of the show
where I'm at at the Wondering Studio. So I've been
shooting this thing in Utah and I just came back
to La to do this.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
So we have good sending and they gave you. You're
at their offices where you have your own boots.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, you're hung up on this on the poster. I
this actually could be anywhere. I suppose you're right. I
am in La.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm not hung up on a poster. I'm hung up
on the fact that they didn't iHeart didn't give us one.
They didn't give us a poster.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Do we need a poster. I think he's in there.
I think we could record at the iHeart Studios if
we wanted. Could Yeah, Daniel says yes, yes, Our engineer
says yes, we could record there anytime. We just don't
want to drive there. And we have nice microphones here, so.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, you can comfort you.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I would love to, but I sit do my podcast
in this raggedy ass house that I have. It's falling
apart on me.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Wait, okay, I know for a fact, do you have
a beautiful home. Some might call a mansion a raggedy
ass mansion, a raggedy ass mansion.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's like a haunted mansion. Okay, this place.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
A haunted mansion built in twenty twenty, like that shows
haunted by the ghosts of the men who made it.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh my goodness, gracious, justin you look good man.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh thanks. You say that like you're surprised.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, yeah, because usually you look you know, like.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, raggedy.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well no, much like my mansion. Yeah, usually you're just
like chilling dude. You usually have a surfer Yeah. I'm
now you're all professional and stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, I want to. I thought i'd dress up for
you guys, because out of respect, that's awesome. Man, I'm
excited to be on this show. I'm excited to talk
to all of you, where I don't see Hannah.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So yeah, Hannah was a problem with me.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, No, she she she's just take. I think she's
with her kids. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
She did want me to pass along a message to you.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
She said, Please don't let this be any type of
negative space between the two of you. But she and
her words were and I didn't make I could, I
wouldn't say this Justin, but her words were, I don't
fuck with him. That's what she said.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh, like like like, because I'm so hostile, Like, I don't.
I don't want to anger him.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're such an angry guy. You're an angry guy.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I'm now beginning to suspect
that maybe she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
She had a different experience of you, Justin than I did.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah. I hope so, because you you have I do
one of them.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean I worked with you a lot, and I
never had that experience.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
But well, I wonder what I did to her.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, I think she was gonna be on but then
she was like, is it too many people to interview
Justin and then we were kind of all talking about
when this is probably stuff to cut, but we were
just like, oh, I worked with you the most probably
and then a little more, and Hannah didn't work with
you as much. So I'm hoping to have episodes off
when she interviews like, oh, I see okay, sometimes we'll

(05:13):
interview the people we worked with the most.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh that makes sense, so I shouldn't. I won't take
it personally.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Don't take it personally other than she doesn't fuck with you.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty personal. Okay, Yeah, oh my goodness
with you guys.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, of course, man, thanks for doing that.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh man, course, dude, Zoe, do you want we want
to dive right in this and maybe get this intro
out later or you want.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
To oh yeah, oh hi guys, welcome to Welcome to
our show. And you know what, I will say this
because because a couple of people were asking why we
call it welcome to our show. Well, I'll tell you
it's because every time someone came to our loft apartment,
I'd say welcome to our home, and now we're saying

(05:58):
welcome to our show. We go, it's a stretch, but
we'll take it.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, and you start each show by saying that, welcome
to our show.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
One of the names we could clear with legal.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Also, we had so many others.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
We had a lot.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
We went what were some of the finalists?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Uh, we had Justin Long as podcast.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I like that one.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Don't go just In Long. I think, sorry, I believe
we can't say the F word. Sorry, you know, I
don't know if we can, but I don't say it
very much myself, so Dan'll know that that's not that's
against my image.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
So I've just been quoting Hannah.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, okay, that was qute.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
That was a direct quote, and we don't.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I've just been quoting Hannah.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I was just quoting Lamar in quoting Hannah.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I think we had what we had. We had
a loft talk or apartment for D or no apartment
for D.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is like it's already it's an already established podcast.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
That was Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? What's that? Podcast? Now?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Girls?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
We had oh what was the one I loved? And
they were like, that's not going to happen. Do you
remember which one that was? Joelle? They were like, well,
True Americans was one they thought that sounded like too
much like military. Yeah, reminiscing about their times in the military.

(07:26):
Uh so that didn't Yeah they Yeah, that didn't work.
What was going to do?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Justin to come up because you're well, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
To well, no thanks, Lamar idiot, but it's I feel you.
It's hard to name things. And we had a hard time.
You know. Of course we like I like stupid puns,
and so life is short with Justin long is what
we settled on. But we had a lot of there
were a lot of long puns that we played with,
which sounds very arrogant, but it's just me doing it.
I mean, I mean for you guys, it's like, I

(07:56):
guess you'd have to have to do something New Girl related,
and that's I'm struggling to come up with one, just
one show.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Your show is very very much so jeepers creepers themed.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
That is true, but it's creepers rewatch.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, we've been dissecting it for two and a half years.
It is a deep it's deep, so you we need
more time to unpack it. Jeepers creepers is it's crazy
Lamaran that it comes up all the time. Zoe and
I we're just talking about things that people will come
up to you about. And and that is one that

(08:35):
just for for this low budget horror movie. It truly
comes up all the time. It's been twenty something years.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, I know of two low budget horror movies that
you've done that will never leave my brain, never, never
leave my mind. Screepers is one of them. It's it's
the first time I was introduced to you as an
actor and I thought, my goodness, this guy at the time,
this kid is incredible. And the second time was Tusk

(09:04):
and I if you guys haven't seen Tusk, don't It is.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
A terrifying great plug. What a great plug. Yes, do
not see it if you haven't. If you have seen it,
don't see it again. Yes, yeah, that's when you thought.
The first one you thought, who is this kid? The
second one you thought, what has this kid done to
his career?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Man, It's one of the dopest, most insane movies I've
ever seen. And I saw it in the theaters and
I said, think I sent you a photo of me
watching it, going what.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, And you're so nice about it? Actually? Yeah, Well,
well my mom, you know, she I told her not
to see it. My grandma was alive at the time
and she was well into her nineties and they went together,
so like she must have been the oldest person to
have seen that movie. But for the few of you
who don't know, it is a movie about a psychotic

(09:55):
older man who turns I play a podcast, or actually
I play like an obnoxious podcasts are such a stretch
and he turns me into a walrus. Basically, he's fast.
He was like past this obsession with walruses. And it
was based on this actual thing that happened. A guy
in England took out a Craigslist type ad for a roommate.

(10:17):
He said the deal was free room and board and
the only stipulation was that the person would have to
dress like a walrus for for like three or four
hours during the day.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Sounds like a New Girl episode.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
To be honest with you, he does. It's very quirky,
but it but it it turned out. I mean he
did it as a as a joke, but he got
like over four hundred responses people wanting to do that
thinking it was a good deal. And Kevin Smith heard
about this. They talked about it on his podcast and
he was so taken by the story that he turned

(10:49):
it into this kind of like hammer horror human body
mutilation story and play the man. Well, Mike, this great actor,
Michael Parks, who has had passed away unfortunately, but he
had a real like cult following, and one of his fans,
like Tarantino, loved him and put him in a bunch

(11:10):
of movies and Robber Rodriguez, these like tour guys would
would cast him a lot, and Johnny Depp was a
big fan, and so Johnny played a That's why he
played the detective in that movie. So he did it
kind of in this.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Really, I haven't seen this. I'm not a big horror
movie person, but it sounds interesting. Is it too much
for me? Probably? I don't watch it.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I'm begging you, yeah, do not. Of all people, we
should have been talking about this on a newer.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
We want to get to know you. We want to
get to know yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So, so welcome to Welcome to our show. I already
said that we have the incomparable crazy Town. Did justin
long here today on now aka Paul Genslinger.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yes, yea.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So it was really cool because you came on our
show first season and the Thanksgiving episode was your first,
your first episode, and they were like, what do you
think of justin long playing like your love and dress.
I was like, oh my god, that's amazing because I
knew you were so talented. But what was cool about
working with you is I saw how much work you

(12:23):
put into everything behind the scenes. You you write a
lot of you write a lot of jokes like on
your own, like a lot of all lines, and you're
always like your mind is always going, You're always like
trying to come up with like the best version of
the scene. And the other thing that was really like
cool to see about you was that you have an

(12:45):
amazing kind of sense of physical comedy that was like
reminded me of of like a John Ritter. And there
was this stuff that got cut from that episode, but
you did a full on acrobatic tumble over the over

(13:05):
a couch yes, and we were I was like, oh
my god, this is incredible. This guy is like so funny.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I remember then they cut it.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was so mad.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I know that was a bum I remember somebody gasping
when I did that, thinking that I had uh and
and and the truth.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
People thought you really hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I do remember, Yeah, and I actually I have hurt
myself in the back. I have a thing in my elbow.
I have a little bone chip that I can still
feel and every once in a while if I hit
it the wrong way and it's from something that something,
I should stop doing this. This should be a lesson.
It's something else I got cut from a movie that
wasn't very good that I really And the truth is

(13:45):
I'm not trained as a stunt person, but I love
doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's why you messed up your elbow. Clearly you're not trained.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
No, exactly exactly, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I worked with Jim Carron. He did that stuff where
he'd just be like I'm doing this and like he's
like like I remember him going like okay, when you
hear me say this line, move okay, and I'm like,
like he didn't. He just whispered it to me. He
didn't tell anybody else. He's like just he's well he
It was like I was behind this bar and he

(14:15):
was like just move, like move to the right, to
your right and move the glass. And I was like okay,
and I I did, and he like full on did
a similar thing to you where he leapt over a
bar and did like a full front flip and surprised
everybody because nobody knew he was doing it except I

(14:39):
had an inkling because he kind of warned me, but
I didn't know what he was going to do.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh my god? Was that? Yes? Man?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes man, yes, yes man, yes.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yes now yes yes yes person, that's the twenty Well
that's so John Ritter was my favorite. I mean I've
watched I loved Three's Company. I loved him so much.
And Jason Ridder is a friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
And me too. I grew up with him.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh right right, So.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
The craziest thing is that John Ritter would come and
be a room parent in our kindergarten class.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
What that's yes?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I remember this because for some reason, my parents
let me watch Three's Company when I was like three
years old. Like I don't know why, but like it was.
I mean, look, I'm glad I did, but it was
not necessarily like for the.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Little probably missed some of the nuances, some of the
especially with.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
The I just thought it was funny, you know, it
was like he was funny.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
He would like you had John Ridder come to your
class as a kid.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes, so I.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Street singing clown that he is a clown who lived
on the street, and he would show up at our
school at lunch of breaks and sing to us. I mean,
that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think he sounds cool, but.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Nah, he was a tricky guy.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So so John Ridder would come in and like volunteer
as a parent, like, and he would be sitting I remember,
because he was like a tall guy, and Jason was
in my class and he I remember sitting at a
little tiny table in little tiny chairs with like construction
paper and little baby scissors. And I walked in and
I sat down and John Ridder sat next to me,

(16:22):
and I was I knew Three Company was in syndication,
and so it was on after school like it was
like yeah, you know, it was like on at three
PM or three yeah, three thirty. And I remember being like,
what is happening? Like you must have been My mind
was well because I still didn't understand like that people like,
you know, I was like, did he come out of
the TV? Like what happened? You know?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah? And are we am I on the show?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Now? He was so nice and I didn't know what Yeah,
I know, I was like I didn't know what to say.
I didn't know what to say. I was just like, huh,
Like it was very I'm imagining and he was so nice.
And he was like sitting on this tiny little chair
at this time cutting out construction paper with us in
the garden.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Sut, yes it is. And and I'm imagining his perspective
of like little Zoe, like being like awestruck with the
big eyes looking up on its must have been.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So so nice.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I've heard he was just the sweetest, such a nice
It makes sense because Jason is just you.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Know, I love Jason. Yeah, and also so talented.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, so good. You guys did you live.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, we did for my first MOE. That's it's Larry Casten.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, Jason, Jason is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Justin your career has brought you to the highest of heights.
You've been all over the world, You've seen a lot
of things. Yeah, it brings you all the way here.
It's a new girl, m So here you are. You're
on our show. You know, people usually have the traditional
audition process for a show. They go audition, they go

(18:02):
get on the show. But what was yours? Like, how
did you get on the show. Let's just let's start there.
How did it even happen?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, you know this, Lauren, because I know I don't
know it either.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I gave him a shot.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You it was a fue casting couch situation. You were
you claimed to be the casting director. I got a call.
It was this is boring, but I I got a
call from my manager saying there was this new show.
And it was just I just knew that Zoe was
on it, and I always been such a fan of hers,
and I thought she was so talented and sweet and

(18:36):
I just wanted to work with her. It was as
simple as that. So all I knew about it was
it was playing Zoe's love interest. And I was like, yes, man,
like the movie. Yes, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I will say this on the show. You guys have
a very interesting romance. So the estor love this couple.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
This couple is I mean in a way like Genslinger
was like the most just like you know, the most,
like the exact like the you know, just as exact
like counterpart.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, it was sort of pitched to me that way.
I guess, yeah that it should be. And and and
Joe and I were just talking about on my podcast
the word.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Quirky following us both around. Yeah, yeah, And you know
what I think it is, it's like unexpected stuff. And
that's what makes me laugh a lot, like when you
when you walked in at the beginning of the of
this recording session and and I'm like eating pretzels and
then I'm like, what what are you He's like, oh,
you're eating pretzels okay, And I'm like, what are you eating?

(19:39):
I was like granola and he's like, no, linils. Like
that's where I make me laugh. That's what makes me laugh.
And I think that like that's kind of like, I'm
not it's not on purpose, but it's like, I think
the things that come out of your mouth are unexpected
and probably similar to yes, make a thing out of

(20:00):
moving on you. I saw your I saw your face.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
He was ready, he got excited about he got excited.
Like I love I love the way your show explored
those moments and and allowed those moments to like breathe,
and a lot of the awkwardness was was created just
from the silences and from the moments in between, and
that I always felt like, that's kind of that's definitely rare. Now,

(20:25):
I mean, I feel like shows used to indulge in
those moments a little bit more often and more consistently.
But I remember one of my favorite scenes was just
riding in a car with Jake and Uh, and I
would just point out kind of mundane things on the
roads and associations with like you know, and like, oh

(20:46):
that I think that's where my get my copies made.
Jacob course is so over it, but I I loved.
I mean, Zoe used this great word when we just talked,
guileless that that Paul that Genslinger has has gile liss
is jess that he had. There's an innocence that is
really I loved playing like I really loved because I
kind of aspire to be that present and positive and

(21:11):
and and and take people uh in that kind of way,
like treat people with that kind of positivity, and so
anything any cynicism that that Jake's character had, or any
any of you guys on the show had, I would
just completely I just would. It wouldn't absorb it at all.
Like he's he's such a an innocent that it just
didn't affect him. I don't think he's dumb. I think

(21:33):
he heard the jazz.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh. He also doesn't know why people don't like him,
which is like so sweet too, Like he's like.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's a nice way to be.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I know, it's yeah, and they should like him because
he's nice.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Well, well I can also see why. Well. I also
like the dynamic of the odd coupling of somebody like
Jake who would get like annoyed by him. I mean,
who's more like, Oh, really, that's where you get your
copies made? Oh no, no, I'm sorry, it's that place,
you know.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I loved that. So that was such a funny scene.
So a favorite memory of mine working with you was
that we had that crazy, hilarious like the on the page.
It was hilarious. The love scene where we're like supposed
to be like were like trying to role play and

(22:24):
it's kind of coming out in an awkward way. And
I remember we were rehearsing and running lines and we
just both started doing really weird voices just like out
like just trying them, like just because we were like
just running lines and it was just weird. Like it
was late at night and we're like, why don't I

(22:44):
try this one? And then we were doing we ended
up doing the weirdest voices and I remember you were
doing a Jimmy Shirt voice, and then I was doing
a couple of last voice and then I did this other,
like really weird voice, and then you laughed, and I
was like, I'm gonna try it because just long laughed
at it. And then and then they were the weirdest.
It was the weirdest choices, but people ended up really

(23:07):
liking them, and I was like, I was very bolstered
by the fact that you were like playing along so
well with all that like just weird, like the experimentation
of finding those voices, like in that scene, it was
just really fun.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, so fun, Zoe. I remember that voice made me
laugh so hard that you did. It's like indelible. I
can kind of do I hear it? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I really want to hear a re enactment of that scene.
I start from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well, I've been I mean, Jimmy Stewart, I've been like
working out.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Wow, I got a little more comfortable.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yes, oh years. But what you did with that was
infection your mild young It was it was Harry Carrey
kind of.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
It was very much so Harry.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I don't even know who Harry Carrie is, so that
is so fun No, no idea who he is? It
sounds an old lady, but that's okay, young mild young wile.
I was like, what happens if you put the voice
in your nose and then stick it so far up
your nose that you can barely breathe.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Because you know when you're doing something that like, is
so ridiculous that and this isn't exactly, this was definitely
a case in point. You have to, like, you have
to commit or you're screwed if you don't. If you
don't commit full commitments, so we were cliff.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
If you don't fully commit.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, so I'm in that. But then if you go
too far, if something like if something brings you out
of it, you you immediately realize how absurd the thing is.
And I think that's what happened. That's what happened when
you did that, Young Maya, because it was like, it's
just too much. And I hate I hate when when

(25:07):
when something is funny, which that scene was. It was
written really funny. You were being so funny. When I'm
doing something like that, I feel so lucky that I
I hate, I like, really don't like breaking. I don't
like ruining. Did you break, especially on a TV show.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I don't remember that because you were so funny. It
was so fun that was like.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's on the outtakes broke when you said young, Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's so funny because I just remember doing that, but
I remember it was like a conspirausy, Like it was
conspiratorial between us that we had like almost made a
pack to make the most the weirdest version of that scene.
And and it was really nice because you weren't like
that was a little you know, maybe don't do that boys,

(25:53):
or that was a little too far. It was just
nice to have a scene partner who was like fully
on board with the weirdest choice.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Likewise, God, yeah, well that's what's fun about that again,
Like if you don't, that's what it's that's the fun
I mean, And that was so fun.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
In a scene like that. You know you obviously you're
a funny guy, and you're bringing your own I mean,
the both of you together. That seems one of the
funniest things that that I've seen on the show. But
in real life, justin on the romantic side.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Would you stop in school? Would you stop? What are
you doing? No?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm sorry, I just you know, you know, you an
old school romantic kind of guy where you might play
some jodas Cy, you know, do a deep voices, tell
her sweet things. Is this the Justin long or you
want to do it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, man, yeah, I kind of do this, and I
do a whole I'll do.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
The damn justice justin that's hot in the.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Like, let's pretend justin stop. So you mentioned Mcaulay Culkin.
I remember running into him at Don Hills. Do you
remember Don Hills on Spring and Greenwich. It was this
gaint in New York great bar where I was introduced
to like a lot of you know, great like Pulp
and uh, you know, like James all these like britt

(27:18):
pop bands. Yeah, and it was just so fun, like
just dancing and cheap beer and y U students and
but I remember seeing Macaulay Kulchin there and I was
introduced to him and and he was and he was
in character for a party monster oh really, And he
was playing Michael. I think his name is Michael. He

(27:38):
was very kind of flamboyant and he was being that
and I.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Never understand that the being like, look, I have all
respect for all processes, but what an arduous thing cha
whole time. It just seems like so much and in
a way like like like you're like, oh, it's kind
of collaborative and it kind of can can like interfere
with other people's processes sometimes.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yes, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm like whenever, like I've thought about it, I'm like,
I pass on that for me.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I mean, I always think that's the only way I'll
get respected as an actor, as if I actually committed
to the process, to.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
The process without taking it home. I mean like even
like go home and you know talking, you know, like
her character.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well that was the odd things. They weren't even shooting.
I mean it was like he was just out. He
was right, it was just out and yeah, he was
had an audition. But so my impression of him was
that I.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Had a years ago, I had a meeting with Kevin Spacey.
He was making this movie about.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
What's his name, Bobby Darren.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Bobby Darren, Yes, yes, And I used to do this
cabaret act and he'd come and seen it and I
was like, like they were meeting me about the part
of Sandra d And eventually Kate Bosworth did that partner
and yeah, she is and and I I met him

(29:18):
somewhere like for lunch or something, and I walk in.
He's like, hey, hey over here, over here, and I'm like, oh, well,
he talked like Bobby Darren the entire job. And he's like,
are you serious?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
He and I remember, particularly like, not knowing what was
going on, he goes I see two swinging cats doing
a cabaret act, and I thought, oh, hell yeah, so
he's like to swing and jazz cat ladies doing a
cabaret act. And I was like what I was like?
I was like, I was like, I had no idea

(29:53):
how to react. Like I've definitely worked with like my
share of actors who like do that. Usually it's like
while we're working, and I'm like, you know, I kind
of yeah, you're on set and that's that's smart. But
it was weird meeting somebody for a movie and he's
already a character and he called me a swing in
jazz cat.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
So that's wild.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
The only time you ever been called a swing in
jazz cat?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Did you find yourself like kind of trying to adopt
a similar.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
No, I was trying to get out of the meeting
at that point. I was like get me out of here.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
This is weird I.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Want to be seeing in this movie. I was like,
I got a weird feeling about this guy.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Was that what made you say no to the movie?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Nobody offered me the movie. I was not chosen, but
it was good because it was I was not. I
think I was. You know, it would have been we
wouldn't have I wouldn't have liked the four months of
talking in jazz Daddy.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, it'd be funny if now Kevin Spacey was like, Wow,
that wasn't me that did that. It was it was Bobby.
I was characters, Bobby Darren.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I couldn't shake it. Woo.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I got fired from a job an animated movie called
Tale of Despero, uh, which I loved because it was
all these great actors actors I loved. I got to
it was an animated movie, but they were recording us
some I wonder if you guys have done this where
they like wanted us to be interacting and wanted all
together with booms. Yeah yeah, or as together as we

(31:38):
could be. We had body mics and stuff and they
because they wanted us to feel our interactions, you know. Cool.
It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I did that I did that on an animated movie.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh really, yeah, but they did.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
We were on a sound stage, yeah, and we had
I guess we were like we had lavel years and stuff. Yeah,
so they like you, they let.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
You let me go. It was because they I know,
I was playing I was playing a mouse, a kid
mouse mouse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well here's what happened.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
They say, Well, because I said I loved that Gary
Ross was the director, and I said, I was kind
of pitching my voice up a little, like, you know,
to play he was younger, and and Gary Garry said,
uh no, just do your voice like, we just want
your you know, I don't want you to pitch it
or do a thing affected at all. And and so
I didn't, and I and I he they claimed that

(32:34):
as they were animating to my voice, it just sounded
too low, too rich roman. Who knows, I may.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Have did they did you get replaced by an actual kid?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
James Earl Jones Matthew Broderick replaced me, which I was
like so flattered by. I was like, I loved Matthew,
thought where would we which would be fine. I truly
I grew up watching him, and I was weirdly flattered.
I was like, well, okay, if you're going to lose
to somebody, lose to somebody really, but who cares.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You've done so oh voice bro, Well the irony is
a couple.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Like a month later, I got the Alvin and the
chip Links job, which Zoe and I were just talking about,
and I remember running into Gary I don't know how
much later, and I said he was like, hey, sorry
again about that. I said, well, I ended up playing
a road in after all the computers they digit they

(33:34):
enhanced my voice made me sound higher. But yeah, it
was a bomber. It was a bomber because it was
just such a great cast and Christopher Lloyd was It
was a good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I worked with Christopher Lloyd.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Oh yeah, well okay so together refresh my memory.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was a little tiny movie called Flakes.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Aaron Stanford and Cheer O'Donnell. Yes, shot in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, were you buddies with ker? Is that right?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Friends with Ye?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I love those guys. Yeah, Oh my god, here and
I like here, I haven't seen it so long. But
he was such a good friend. Yeah, he's so so
hilarious and talented. But so we did this movie with
Christopher Lloyd and I remember we were rehearsing for it

(34:28):
and it was a little movie and like we didn't
have anybody, like any runners or anything to like go
get lunch. And I was like, I'll go get lunch.
So I was like taking everyone's orders and like burritos
or whatever we're getting. I was like getting Chipotle and
shout out Christopher Lloyd, like in the most Christopher Lloyd way.
Was like and get to some of those.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Halingo and I'm like, okay, okay, and he's like one
of them, get some of those alpino things and I'm like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
He said it like four times, and I was like,
this is like the best. I was like, I wish
i'd had like camera glasses.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah he has. We had the funniest. We had a
moment where he was playing like a mentor of mine
and he gives me my character wants to be a knight.
He and he's got this courage mouse. Yeah, the mouse
that I got fired from. Uh and he so Christopher
gives me a like a needle that is to be
my sword. And his line was every good night needs

(35:44):
a sword, and he said, uh, so he said, every
good heart needs a sword. And I remember Gary, the
director said, that's great, Chris, Uh, we got that one.
Bring it down a little bit because it's, you know,
kind of an intimate moment and uh so it's it's
not so oh okay, okay, take two ooevery good night

(36:05):
You're are sure, you know, and kind of the same
uh and he Garry was like, yeah, yeah, just really
bring it down, like very intimate, almost a whisper, you know,
like it says this moment, okay, okay, every good night.
You know. It was not the level that he had.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Hey, you were the one who was.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Like, you're the one.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, yeah, it reminds me of it reminds me of
a moment that we had. One of my favorite moments
actually on New Girl when you wouldn't call me by
my name? Do you remember that moment you had to
leave the scene?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
It was one of my favorites because I was I was, ye.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Walk us, walk us through what was happening in the scene.
So here's here's here's here's what I remember from my
point of view, the director said, just walk out of
the the or just come on in and say hello,
And you were like, I think it was Jake Johnson
and I are. I think you say hey, Nick, Hey,
Winston's and then you added an S to my name,
and each time it was slightly different. What do you

(37:06):
remember from from that?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
From that, Well, it's funny because I was I was
just talking about this one. I remember being in church
when I was a kid and trying to make my
brothers laugh by standing out in like as subtle a
way as possible from the conformity of like like the singing.
For example, like if we were to like, like you know,
if you we we had to say, like let us

(37:30):
let us pray, I would say, let us praise, and
I would just add like an ass sound to it,
which stands out, which makes it stand out? Does or
I try to be like the last, like the first
one to rise to stand and the last one to sit,
And I do it with my friend Craig Guiling, who

(37:52):
was on the opposite side of the church, and we
play like kind of it would be it was like
church chicken to see who would sit the last, you know,
so it's just the us still standing in this whole
congregation of people sitting. So that reminded me of that
a little bit. I always found it funny to just
get people's names slightly wrong. Your name was Winston. I

(38:14):
think I called you when the reiteration of that, will
call me Wimbledon, Wilton, Well Walton.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, justin This is the part of this is this
is a part of your performance that has possibly gotten
me in trouble in my life. So on New Girl,
I had a nickname. I was Porcelain. I would always
get inorcel Morris for the most random thing.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well, you would like, stuff would happen that didn't seem
like an opportunity to get injured, and you would somehow
injure yourself, like getting up from the couch. I come
up with that nickname. You know I didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Zoe came up with Porcelain.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I did not. You know that was Jake Johnson's.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Zoe would cut in the magazine No, no, like a
like a kidnapper and simulat notes. No, trying to keep
it together this episode.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Please don't again, No, no, you you did. You did
get injured, but I think it was just bad luck.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Right, Well, let me tell you. Let me tell you
this part. I injured myself getting off of a couch,
and let me explain why. There was a moment where
a director once said to you, justin leave the scene,
just kind of go quickly, and you would take your
time in such a way that was so funny, and
you would leave and then it was like, can you
just go a little bit faster? And then the next
take you bolted out of the door so fast, like

(39:33):
you did a full sprint and ran out of the door,
and we were in tears. So a director was asking
me to get off of the couch for like this
is maybe a season or two later, and and so
I got up with Zoe and I were in the
scene together, and they said, okay, well she does this,
just get up and exit the scene. So I got
up and I said, okay, le mar can you do
a little bit faster? So I thought I was moving

(39:53):
as fast as I humanly could. That made sense to
the scene. So I got up and I walked out.
He goes, I hate to do that to you, but
if you could just move like just a little bit
quicker out of the scene, I said, okay, great. I said,
I'm gonna pull a justin long, I'm going to push
myself off of the couch and leap over the table.

(40:14):
That was my plan. I was going to aggressively push
myself down. If you know that couch, the one that
we always sat on on the loft, there's a dead
spot in the cushion doesn't quite have that much cushion.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It was a vintage couch like when we got it.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And as I pushed myself down, my thumb goes down
and I dislocate my thumb and you can hear it
in the You can hear it in an old edit.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
It just goes, oh my god, it is that embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
It was not only embarrassing. I had to go to
the emergency room. Dude, I had no Yeah, oh, I
credit you for that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Well just oh oh, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that
you were to hurt yourself. I used to do a bit.
I'm sure I did it on your show because I've
been doing it since kindergarten that I got from John Ritter,
not personally, but he would do this great thing with
the door. I'm sure he got it from somebody. You know.

(41:14):
It probably goes back to chaplain or something. But you
you stop a door with your foot, I mean you
just time it so that it's it hits your shoe, yes,
perfectly right as it's.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Jason Jason Ridder taught that to me, no kidding, and yeah,
like in high, high school or elementary, I can't remember,
it was probably high school. I remember he would do
that and then he was like, oh, yeah he showed
me and then yeah, no, it's a great it's a
great trick. I love that one.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Well. I've been getting mileage from it since Kindrick, Like
I remember, I remember like it was an indelible moment
to me, indelible memory getting a laugh from that. And
so I do it all the time. I would do
it all the time. And I I was doing stuff
one of our sponsors on the show is bud Light
Seltzer on a podcast to bud Light Seltzer, And so

(42:06):
I was doing like a bit for Instagram to you know,
hitting my running into something. And and the key part
of it is that you have to be wearing daring,
protective footwear because that's what you're hitting. That's really what
you're getting is your feet. And I was I was
with I was also trying to impress my girl. I

(42:26):
was trying to make her laugh because she had never
seen me do that. And it's like a surefire lap.
It's like could go to like ace in the hole
and I was wearing crocs. Oh geez, and yeah, and
so I hit it. So I hit my foot so
hard because I really, I like over committed to the bigs.
I'm trying to impress her, trying to be funny for

(42:47):
this thing on Instagram. And immediately I knew. You know that,
you know when you get hurt trying to do something
funny like more and like your couch thing, and you
quickly have to do the calculation. You don't want to
be you don't want to let on that you're hurt,
because it's the most embarrassing thing to get hurt doing
something fun trying to be funny, to get hurt. So

(43:08):
I covered it up at first, like I was like,
but she must have seen like real pain, Like she
must have seen me suppressing like genuine pain, because I
I was, I was shot through my leg it shot
all the way. This was this was broke. This was
Kate Brooke and and and she was like yes, Kate back,

(43:30):
and she was like she didn't really laugh, I was.
She kind of gave me a consolation laugh. And then
she goes and I'm sweat. I'm I must have had
the weirdest grin plastered on my face because I wanted
to cry. You know, it was that bad. It hurt
that bad that I wanted to like, and she goes,
are you okay? And I tried to play it off

(43:52):
like uh yeah, what do you mean. She's like, you
seem like you're in pain, and I had to come clean.
I mean it was a moment where I was like, well,
I have to this person can see. And so I
had to admit that I had hurt myself. And I
hurt myself so badly that I went I was hot,
I was limping. I was like hobbling. I think I
may have broken my toe. And I had to go

(44:14):
shoot a movie in Bulgaria the next day. I had
to travel so for the first and I was doing
and then pray, yeah, correctly your joke. I'm getting brooke.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
So justin you have this, you have this energy on
set that is contagious for and obviously there's love for
comedy that in a way, even the way you explain
it just now, it's almost teacher like. It's almost like
you could teach a class on this type of stuff
you're directing. Now, you know, what what is that like?
Is this something you've always wanted to do? Is that

(44:47):
something uh that you enjoy doing?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yes? Thanks more, it's nice you to say, I think,
And that's just along everybody show. Yeah, I do. I
my brother and I with whom I do the podcast,
Christian shout out, Christler, Christian Long went up. We well,
I called him Krit when I was growing up because

(45:11):
we didn't like to this day, I'm not crazy about
multi syllable names. Uh so I he called me jut
and my other brother Damien is Dame. So Krit and
I do this podcast. So we made a movie with
Jason's wife, Melanie Melanie wonderful Melanie Melanie.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
She is one of my sister's best friends.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yes, that's right, Yes, I think I knew that. Melanie Lynskey.
It's so good and she's on this. If you haven't
seen Yellow Jackets, check it out. She's so good. But
but Melanie and Judy, it's like an odd couple comedy
which which we loved, which were my favorite Judy Greer,
Judy Greer and Melanie ye out, yeah it was, but

(45:53):
we got so lucky with them. It's called Lady of
the Manor and it's out and uh, I don't know,
you know, in the streams everywhere. Yeah, platforms, platforms. Yeah,
but we we love doing it. We can't wait to
do another one. And those were always our favorite movies
growing up, those buddy Buddy comedies, which, in fact, I
was thinking about what about Bob, Uh, I've been thinking

(46:16):
about Gensling or knowing that I was going to do
the show and the character I played on your show
and I and I think that's why I loved Bill
Murray and what about Bob so much? Was that he
had a similar guy it's guy, it's Zoe's great words, guilelessness,
like he was just kind of guileless.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Uh, And and realized that movie is so good. I
haven't thought about that in a long time. That movie
Baby Stepping to.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
The Baby.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Miss miss misunderstands baby.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yes, but I I but it's the it's the again.
It's something that could have been very dark, that relationship
between Richard Drivers and Bill m that was handled so
beautifully by Frank. Cause I just love I love that movie.
So that movie is always Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
That movie is so good. Richard Well, that character that
Richard Drevis plays is kind of like the lead character,
but then he's a. He's like a narcissist character. And
then this like super sweet guy who's like innocent in
a lot of ways but also like but also stable,

(47:29):
and he's stalking Yeah yeah somehow, but he wins over
the entire family.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Spoiler.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Sorry, oh, lamour, you got to see that movie. But
it's also you haven't seen it? What you have to
see this movie?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
It's no, it's called What About Bob?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
What About Bob? With Bill Murray? Like Bill Murray, what's
he doing?

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Oh? If you like Bill Murray, lamar, you'll really love it.
But it's also although do.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
You ever go back and watch those like eighties comedies
and be like, oh, that doesn't hold up that very
I need let me go back and watch Have you
watched it recently?

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Like how oh yeah, I watch it all the time.
It holds well.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Sometimes they don't hold up, but they're also like not okay,
problematic nerds.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I haven't watched Rugging druggon people.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Oh my god, dark, it's dark?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
What is it? Six sixteen candle Candles and Pretty and
Pink Oh yeah those movies. Oh my god, Oh really
there's so much problematic stuff. I think it's sixteen candles yeah,
sixteen candles.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
She sneaks in the room and hooks up it's someone
and she thinks it's someone else or something.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You know. So the one guy who's like the lead
guy who you're supposed to like, says to Anthony Michael
Hall like this was on TV or somehow. I was like, oh,
let me watch that movie again. And I was like,
oh my god. So he's like he's going out with
this girl who's kind of shallow, and then he's like,

(49:06):
she gets really drunk. She's passed out in this car.
And then the lead guy whose name I forgot, Jake Ryan,
I think, just like the guy and he says, like
the Anthony Michael Hall character, he hands him the keys
and it's like you take her, do what you want
with her or something like that.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
He meant, put her to bed and like give her
some water.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
The next day they wake up together and then she's
like what happened And he's like like, I can't remember,
but she's like I think I liked it or something
like that. It's so, oh my god. Jake problematic like.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Of that caliber from back in those days. Would to
change some of them? Would that be the movie you'd
remake or would you.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I mean, I think they're like, I think we're due
for some good team movies because again, like all the
ones from the eighties are racist and problematic in various
ways like either rape or racist or both, so ours
we don't want. So maybe we're due for some more

(50:20):
teen movies that we can feel okay showing darkest.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah, wow, I haven't seen those movies in a long time.
I hadn't seen The Jerk in a long ever. I
hadn't I had not seen The Jerk, and it had
been a movie that people that I really admired were like,
you know, strongly recommended, and so I got to see
that a couple of years ago, and I just I
fell in love with it. I mean, there's some like
there's racial humor in it, but it's it's at his expense.

(50:48):
It feels like, you know, some of that stuff seems
like if you looked at it through a very macro lens,
it should you know, it could be problematic. But I
think some of that stuff if it was done properly,
and by that I mean not not in danger of
hurting anyone or alienating all.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh god, Yeah, the Schmi character is probably like, it's
funny because that was one of the things that has
been brought to our you know, not brought to our attention,
but like people are like, how are you guys going
to talk about the way Schmidt talks, which is on
an episodic basis problem?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Oh really in that that's a good question. Have there
been things on the show that, through a new lens
you've had to re kind of explain or apologize.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
For, Well, you had to, you know, there was a
lot of even when it happened, a lot of explaining
for me on that. There was a Crack episode where
his character is he thinks that the best way to
get to my heart is to.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Get out of here and get out. What is it to.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Take me to to find crack?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I don't remember this. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I'm not joking because he's like asking me, like, what
was it like living in the hood and all this
Rollo the clown was our dealer?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Wait, Lamurna, are you seriously and what what about? How
did Schmid talk?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
That was like but also a lot of yeah, there's
there's so much Schmid. But the thing is we did
establish that he's a douchebag from them.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
And it was self deprecating. It was self deprecating. It
was it was It wasn't offensive to me because it
was it happens. People are like that.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
People like he would talk differently to you.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, and he would like, you know, he wanted me
to feel welcome and more included. So he was like,
I want you to feel warm around me. So I'm
going to take you to get some crack. Because I
don't remember this because what was this in LA I
don't remember, Joel, if we could figure that out, it
was the episode it was it was I forget what

(53:00):
it was, but I was. I was messing with him.
I was like, yeah, Schmidt, you know when I was
a kid, we used to we used to, you know,
huddle up around the fire and like sing songs in
a trash barrel, a trash can fire, and we would
sing songs and then we would warm up to some nice,
sweet crack. And he was like, see, I'm gonna getch
you some crack, man, like I'm going.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
To catch crack. But isn't then the joke on on Schmidt,
I mean, isn't isn't it his own ignorance?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And exactly that's what I was saying, That's why I
find it offensive because there are people like that. Yeah,
and every moment that Schmidt had on the show, where
it may have been looked at with a cringe look,
was a teachable moment for him because if you rise
the show and is the way his character evolves, he
is not that character in the end, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, totally. And that is so great about the David
Brank character and the Michael Scott character on the Office
or Archie Bunker, is that you know it it reveals
their own shortcomings, their own judices or biases that that
are laughable, you know, if they're examined properly and you know, comedically.

(54:07):
So I got I I didn't even know, but I
know that everything is now being relooked, relooked at and rightly.
So I think people are kind of doing a deep dive.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's interesting just to look
through a twenty twenty two lens and yeah, like, would
we portray that character that way as a comment on
people like that or would there be you know, I mean,
it wasn't up to me because I wasn't writing it,
but yeah, or you know, or acting it. But you know,

(54:40):
it's it's like there's people like that in the mix,
you know.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
And that's the reason why I love All in the
Family is because that's one of my favorite shows, is
because you know, he's clearly telling on himself, and the
audience is in on this and their characters around him
that are letting him know, Bro, this is not this
is not how we behave. It's not what you're yeah
to be doing, like what and now?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
And I think I hope society is progressing to the
point where we like it did during All in the
Family time, where whoever is taking that at face value
and enjoying it at face value and and and doesn't
see the irony in those jokes. I'm hoping eventually they'll
just they'll I hate to say it, I they'll just
die out. I mean they'll just die, like that way

(55:24):
of thinking will die, and that kind of prejudice will
That's I guess the hope. I don't know, maybe that's
too maybe that's too positive gensling Er way of like.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I hope that idea dies out. Hope they just hope
they learn.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I hope they the develop awareness.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
So a lot of people don't grow, they don't a
lot especially if you're of a certain age. I mean,
you know, I struggle with this sometimes. I'm not saying
this is what we're talking about with my parents, but
but you know, people were of a certain age. They're
kind of set in their ways to this is this ageist?
Am I being agist? Yes you are, Yes I am.

(55:59):
I'm going to pull up. I'm going to bail out
of this theory that I had.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
It is episode twelve Cabin. Yeah, that's the episode, oh.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Cabin, I remember because that was we had Olivia mon
on that one. And that's right, David Walton where we
all go to a cabin.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
That's right, Yeah, you go to a cabin and to
crack who justin So, yes, you're on our podcast and
and and wherever so grateful I've done your podcast, has

(56:41):
overs done your podcast?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Ever? So grateful?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Tell us about your podcast, man, how did it come about?
Tell us how you like it, how you.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Love been doing it a long time?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, yeah, well it's been a couple of years now.
Well thanks.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
You invented podcast, right, yes, uh, the first one?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Uh huh, I know before Joe even Yes, but I
came up with the word. He said we should call
it voice casting and I said, what about But like
when we do it, we're in kind of a pod
a little and he's.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
A little baby pod. And he was like, nah, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
I'm too tough for that not show. So I stayed
in my little pod to do the show. Uh, we know,
my my brother and I we do it, of course wondering,
as you can see. But my brother and I've been
doing it mostly out of just where I live. I mean,
we do it. We have a little kind of a closet.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Studio and you guys live together.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
We live together. He's getting he's moving out, sadly.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
We did.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
We spend the whole Oh it was the best. I
mean we're you know, best friends and really love each
other so and laugh a lot. So it's basically just
us getting to hang out and laugh and we he
that we do the intro and the outro for the guests,
and then we have a guest on that I I
have a conversation with and and then Christian kind of

(58:05):
my brother.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I didn't meet your brother at all, so he didn't exist.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
No, No, I know he's like the voice.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I don't even know him.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
The Voice of God. He'll he'll he'll like critique are
not you critique me? Not you he'll he'll he's very
honest with me, but he's kind of judge me. No,
he will judge me, and that's kind of part of
the fun. And because we're very honest with each other
and we've been doing it for a couple of year.

(58:34):
We just love it. God life is short, and I
love it. I've always loved doing podcasts because, as you
can hear, I like to talk and I'm curious about people.
I like, I like talking to people. And it's been
such a blessing during the pandemic, of course, because you know,
I just we just weren't going out and so it
was a way to, like Lo Moran when you were on.

(58:55):
It was a perfect example of this, like just to
catch up with people that you don't normally get to
talk to, people that you like from your life. So
Jake Max was.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
On Worst Mass Max Max Greenfield.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
No, No, we're worst guest we've had. We've been really
like so I think now that's always been on, and
you know, once Hannason, we'll have the whole We'll have
collected all the Girl cast members.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
So I'm gonna so on days where we get lazy.
All we have to do is just pull from your
your podcast on our podcast episode.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Well, I yes, uh and I got I love. I
just love talking about this show. This was such a
that was such a fun job, and it's it's a
job your show that keeps coming up justin.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
The episode that makes me laugh so much. I just
have to mention this where we do the musical at
the end with Josh Gad.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
With Josh Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
That one somebody somebody sent or like it was like
in my mentions on Instagram like the other day and
I was like, oh, this is so I was like, oh,
I forgot about this is so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Well it was Wolf. Remind me it was like something wolf.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You're a gay wolf again, You're a gay wolf who
knows but no one understood you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
You were misunderstood, right, a gay wolf and wolf is
a word that I can't really say properly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So it's always And Josh Yad's doing a show called
wolf like me. Someone chicks the poster.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Gay wolf like me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I think maybe is it was it you that was
the wolf or was it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I don't remember. I was just talking about Josh Yad
with Uh at work yesterday because we were talking about
Curby Your Enthusiasm episode from this year where Josh plays
a guy who wears like tattered underwear. Have you seen
have you seen this? And Larry Josh he's playing a doctor.
He's really fun. He's playing a doctor. Or and Larry.
He bends over to pick something up and Larry notices

(01:01:03):
that he has like kind of holes tattered.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Under and Josh was the gay wolf.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Gay Josh was the gay wolf. Yeah, anyway, we're talking
about because Vince Vond calls it. But I'm working with
Vince Vond now and he so he's been his voice
has been in my head, has been around. He's just
been around. And he on the on the curb he
calls he refers to the underwear as being he goes, well,
I suppose it was a little rustic. He goes a
rustic like the idea of old tattered under rustick. I guess,

(01:01:34):
I guess it was a little rustic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
So justin thank you, thank you very much for being
a part of this podcast. We're not going to let
you off the hot seat just yet. Oh no, we're not.
We're not going to let you off the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I don't want to go I have nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
We're having too much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
I know this is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna play a
little game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Okay, it's a game called Nick's Box.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It starts with you slowly taking your shirt off for
the fans out there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
And listen, and then slowly leaving, slowly leaving, put the
shirt on, and then quickly leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Okay, okay, I leave twice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Get you leave twice?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Well, yeah, because first you have to leave as slowly
as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Then you have to hit your foot on the door
your head.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I haven't done that bit since because I'm afraid now
and it's my I'm gonna show bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I haven't sat on the couch since the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Oh Wow only sectionals only sections.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Welcome back to the segment where we crawl into the
back of Nick's closet and we pull out the memories
that the cast and crew of New Girl have kept
hidden for years for obvious reasons. Justin long, what's your
favorite memory from your time working on New Girl?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Oh? Man, you know it's got to be I mean,
we talked about it that it's got to be that sex.
It's weird to call it a sex scene, a scene,
a love erotic love scene. I I just remember laughing
so much that day. Uh and and it was so
weird and it was just so weird and fun to

(01:03:17):
like commit to I love that. I you know, there
were moments I actually felt bad there. I love playing
around Lamurn with you and Max and Jake so much
that I remember trying to stretch out scenes that were
meant to just be filler scenes, you know, like yeah,
like Zoe, I remember we had one way I basically

(01:03:37):
just go to pick you up. It's like the scene
is just like it's meant to get from like you
got you in the room to like us on a
date or whatever. And it's just me at the door
being like let's go, and I the three of you,
Lamore and Max and Jake were behind, like there were
you were in the background on the couch when you
used to sit on couches, and and I remember kind

(01:03:59):
of like leaning around Zoe because because I was like,
are you ready to go? And she said yeah, and
then just say hi to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
You made a lot of bits that were like that
weren't in the script, that that became like recurring bits
that you just carried through like you every time you'd
see the guys trying to impress them, it was almost
at a certain point like you liked them more than
you were like trying to impress them. Yeah, it was
great how you'd carry those through. Well, it's real commitment.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
To something that would that is in an unprofessional way
because it's something that you knew wouldn't be used. As
someone who had been doing the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Show long, well, we knew a lot of it was
gonna get gone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yes, And and the indulgent part that I do have
some regrets about was that I should have known that too,
And there was something I'm a guest star. I'm like,
I'm coming in just to like, you know, for a
limited time and it's your show, and and I but
it was it only because I loved playing around, uh
with with you guys so much that But I remember, Zoe,

(01:05:05):
you started at one point you started kind of like
kind of opening the door more, you opening the door
less so open and like revealed I'm going to see
them to throw lines of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
That's so funny. I was messing with you back so
but we always enjoyed having you on the shows. It
was so much fun and we knew that we would
have a great time. Yeah, when you were around bringing
the funny.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
A lot of folks are calling for a reboot and
they don't give a god damn about any of the
other characters.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
But you only I just want to see Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Well, if if Liz is listening, Mary, whether we should
do a spin off and then you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Could guest star. Yeah, and then we're the ones who
are going to have to like curve bares, break our toes.
Oh no, it would be improvisations.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but to get back at me, you won't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
I it's it's a it's a show that comes up
all the time. Obviously it's so popular and but but
whenever people come up to me about it mentioned it,
they always seem so sweet. They seem like good, like
nice people, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
And I know that fans are the best, the absolute best.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah, yeah, I always enjoy them. I enjoy those interactions
so much. So if you're listening and you see that,
you see the gens out on the town, say what's up. Yeah?
I loved it, And you guys were so fun to
work with, so it's fun to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
And the fans out there love you. They love you
so much. We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Thank you so much for being on our show.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
You guys, thanks for having me. I got to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yeah, we so appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Tell Hannah sorry, I just I will you read him
forbade him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Well, it's a photo. It's a do you want me
to show you the photo? Sah, let's see. Kind of
just sent this photo.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Oh it's a middle middle finger.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I don't know why she did that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I'm calling her right now. She may have changed her number. Hello,
where the f are you? Hi? Kind of got really
shut out of the podcast today, and then my feelings
are a little hurt. Oh well, a lot of hurt

(01:07:46):
feelings because my feelings were hurt that you weren't here,
and I I've got paranoid that it may have been
something that I did. And then Lamar made a joke
and I didn't know if he was being serious about
Wasn't the joke so bad?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
That's just alsense of humor is making people feel like
everybody hates them. Zoe, wait, we're on Wait can you
hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
She can't hear ze.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, we asked if you wanted to be on and
you were like if it's additive, and we're like up
to you, and then I thought you were going to
be on and then you weren't on, and so we're like, Okay,
I guess what that was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Hannah hurt too many cooks, that's the vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Text was like, oh, I guess because it's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yes, this is why texting sometimes doesn't work, because the tone.
This is why emoji's coming handy to create a tone. Well, listen,
you are on the show now, so problem solved.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Well, I thought I thought it. I thought it would
give us the opportunity to have episodes off, like when
Hannah interviews Steven Emmel or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Yes, I don't have to be here, Zoey's saying she thought,
give you an opportunity to have you guys could like
take episodes off and not all have to be on
the same time. I'm gonna but Hannah, it's so nice
to hear your voice. I missed you in this chat.
It was so fun, But it's so fun talking about
the show. I missed you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, well maybe I'll come on your podcast and we'll
talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
There. Let's do let's do it, truly, because I was
just saying I've had everyone on uh life a short
except for you. So I'm gonna I'm gonna text you
and figure out a date. Perfect. That would be great.
Thanks pal, Okay, all right your voice Okay, bye than you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Now, I know, thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Helle.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Hey, hey, Ken, Oh my god, just just yeah, you're on.
You're on the podcast right now. Justin hung up and said,
oh my god, not sure. I'm so glad she wasn't
a part of this. And I was like, yo, what
do you guys have a history or something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Because you I'm so glad she was a part of this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Oh I heard you wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Well, you know, I have a soft spot for a
little more. Yeah, I like all Hannah's because my my pet,
this is quirky. Are like family pet growing up was
a rabbit named Hannah. Yes, and even more quirky. When
Hannah passed away, we had it for for a long time.

(01:10:18):
When Hannah the rabbit passed away, I went to the
pet store to get another rabbit, and I picked one
out like like the smallest one, the runt of the litter,
because I identified because I was the shortest and smallest, and
and I took it home and it started hopping around
in a strange way, like its front paws were kind
of splayed out. And I I picked it up, and

(01:10:39):
I looked underneath it, and I realized it had no
hind legs. It just had little not nubs, little like
little nubs and and and so I took it back
to the pet store and the guy, the kind of
surly pet store owner was. I said, sir, there's no
I'm twelve years old. I was like, there's no. This

(01:11:00):
rabbit has no legs and has no feet. And uh
he said, ah, a right, put Uh you'd pick out
another one and he and he took it and he
tossed it in a separate tank. Then the other one's separacation.
And I said, well, what's going to happen to that rabbit?
And he said one of the pythons is going to
get lucky? And yeah, so of course, you know, my
little animal loving heart was I couldn't let this thing

(01:11:24):
be eaten by by that. So I said, wow, okay,
I'll I'll take it. I said, well, can you knock off?
Can I get like a discount or something? He said,
I'll take five bus I'll take five, but no five bucks.
And at the time, I was like a twenty dollars,
twenty five dollars rabbit, And so he gave him five
dollars off and I had and I called him nubs
and I had that rabbit. I took it to college.
I had it like all throughout my freshman year. It

(01:11:46):
lived for quite some time. For a rabbit with no feet,
it lived. So that's kind of a Genslinger story.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
She didn't want to be on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Okay, were you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
You gotta go, Zoe, Thank you, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You so much. I love you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Thank you guys, justin for being on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
And thanks for having me on your show too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Thanks for being on. Thanks for being on, and thanks
for having me. Love you guys. Miss you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
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