September 26, 2025 • 36 mins
Could the last moments of The Traitors season one may be the best ending in reality competition history? The Traitors won an Emmy, and we’ll tell you why it’s well deserved.
Cirie made a brutal decision at the end of the game that’s caused a lot of controversy… Would we have done the same? Do we think she deserved to win?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all you traitors and faithfuls out there, it's
time for another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls.
I'm wells, and I'm alongside.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Camra, Judge and Dolores Catanya. You guys, this is it
season one. We got that. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I didn't move forward even when I wanted to, and
it was so worth the wait. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I move forward a little bit at times, just because
I had to know. But it was such a good
first season.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I get the reason people get addicted. I really do.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The ending of it is wild, and obviously we'll get there,
but I had kind of forgotten what the ending was like.
And then seeing Already's decisions Siri kind of finally coming
through in the end and getting all that money for
our family was just it was just such a beautiful
(01:01):
television ending.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I thought, I don't think there's been a better ending
out of all three seasons so far.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I agree, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It took my breath away because it was it was
very hard decisions on the traders that were left right,
and I agree with both of their decisions, although I
wouldn't have had to be the one to make either one.
I wouldn't have wanted to be the one to make
either one of them. It was hard. It was hard
on Siri, it was hard on Ari to say, listen,
(01:32):
I've been here this whole time. I'm going to walk out.
But we'll get to that. And yeah, it was great,
amazing and deserved the Emmys. It's been given.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We got to talk about it winning Outstanding Reality Competition Program.
I mean, are we surprised. I do feel like it
is the best reality TV competition show out there.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I I don't watch any other ones.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You I don't watch No, I don't watch No, I
really don't. But I'd have to say just watching it
and watching it because I've seen so many episodes this time,
Like last night I was watching. I was because I
knew they were up for Emmy and all that, and
I'm watching the music, the way the camera operates, all
those things that you normally just I don't really pick
(02:24):
up on, and I'm like, it is pretty incredible. Everything
they do is so like magical.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's very cinematic, I guess is the word for it,
you know, and it's impressive for a reality show.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But you have to like that is the biggest production
crew I've ever worked with.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh yeah, well behind the scenes. As you know, a
lot of people don't know they actually have a wellness
team and they're constantly asking you if you are okay,
if there's anything you need, and they mean it. It's
not just like a perfunctory thing that they do. I mean,
the UK does it right, I have to say.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I think one of the things that separates this show
from a lot of the other, you know, competition shows,
which effectively now my other show, Bachelor in Paradise, turned
into one this year, so now I got to see
the kind of the different side of when you start
doing a show that involves money in gameplay, then all
of a sudden, the rules kind of change about how
you make the television show. But the thing that I
(03:29):
think that stands out the most, and this isn't a
slight on any other show's host, but Alan is such
a fantastic host and fits that role so perfectly. And
I think one of the things that separates this show
from the others is Alan not only his amazing acting ability,
which is something that I was always impressed with when
I was doing the show, that man like doesn't take cuts.
(03:52):
He doesn't you know, he doesn't ask for reshoots. He
just goes delivers this line. He looks amazing, he exits
amazingly well. And I think that unless you're like a
really good Broadway trained and you know, movie star trained actor,
you can't do that unless you're that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's true. He's actually a triple threat, right, that's what
they call they would call him. He can act, he
could sing, he can dance, he can morph into any role.
And I guess they're lucky to have him.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah. I was surprised how we hardly really saw Alan
during filming. He'd come at the breakfast, he'd throw the
thing down, he'd introduced the missions and round table. That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He doesn't break character, I'm going to tell you right now.
And he really doesn't engage with the cast at all.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He does the scene and he walks out.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, and he does. He stays true to himself right
till the end.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Let's get into the end of this season one, which
was fantastic. Siri, Ari and Christian. They gather in the turret.
Christian wants to murder Stephanie because she's onto him, but
Siri doesn't want to go along. With the plan and
they start choosing between Stephanie and Quinton. Do you think
(05:20):
it's a smart move to go after someone who's been
vocal about you being a trader As a trader.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
At this point, you really don't have a choice, right,
There's so few people left that you have to You
don't have a lot of room to play, So it's
down to the wire and you have to Now it's
like a crucial Every decision is so crucial to how
the game is going to end. You have to get
rid of that one person who is onto you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, And no matter who they choose to murder, Siri
has an all fold Yes, everybody folled ye, both of
them are aligned with her.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. The next morning, at breakfast, Ari and Siri are
the first to arrive. I both agree that Christian is
a problem. He's a liability, which I totally agree with.
Kate walks in, she can't believe she's still alive.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How far to it is? It is that Siri and
Ari were able to actually have that very important conversation
with just the two of them before anybody came in,
and that was like a very pivotal moment of the
episode that they both agreed to.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Do to do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In Christian Stephanie's the one who gets murdered, right, and
we see in her exit interview that she was actually
on to Siri, which is wild because it doesn't seem
like anyone else is sniffing that out, and they will
anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think Stephanie was a smart choice to murder. I
think that she was figured it was and down to
the wire, she's figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, she was really smart. I mean, I give her credit.
She was very boisterous for being that boisterous, and that's smart.
She lasted a long time because I think Siri covered her.
She really did, so she she was like a confident
onto her and you know, Siri kept her alive. But
they would have probably got rid of her sooner if
(07:11):
it wasn't for Siri.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I got to ask, did you guys get to do
the Trader's installation like house outside?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Like in La Yeah, okay, cool, so because I wanted
to bring it up. So their mission is that they
have to basically like weave around laser beams and steel things.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
We did that right in the house. Yes, it was
so fun. I wish we would have had that on
our season, and.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He referenced Oceans, the movie where they actually did that, remember,
which I thought about. But that was a really cool thing.
I did well at the at the installation house, I
did do well and it was a cool mission. That
was a really their missions were very cool. First episode,
I feel like, I mean, first season.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But Andy, she was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The way she was like she was a cat burglar.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
She was good and it didn't look like her first time.
I'm just gonna throw it out there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
She looks like an athlete to me for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
She's sorry, sweet person.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Have you met her before?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I haven't, but I would like to meet her. I
found her to be so sincere and heartfelt the whole time,
and in the end she broke my heart. But we'll
talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I have DMed with her a few times. She's oh
you dead? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Did she get back to I wanted to?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, So everyone goes back to the castle. They
split up to talk. Quinn asked Christian and Ari who
they're voting for. Christian says Kate, but then he throws
out Siri and Ari's name as potential traders.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
He's such an ass. I want to shut ass, shut up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Oh my god, Sama, I agree with you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
When he did that, I just want what what's next, dude?
Why don't you stand up and say I'm the trade?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Like, I'm kind of amazed that he hasn't been found
out before this, right, yeah, I think they could.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
They thought that he was so goofy he couldn't possibly
be a trader. And that is something that happens in
my in my season, I thought somebody could not have
possibly been a trader because they were carol it. She
was all over the place. Had I known her history,
I would have thought more of that and looked into
(09:27):
I would play the game so differently now. But I
was like, there's no way. The girl cries and mumbles
all day long to herself, how could you be a trader?
She was a good one.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well Christian wasn't. But uh oh well, so after he
does this, always like I need to go talk to Siri,
Like I need to talk to her about this. This
is an issue, and so okay, fast forward into what
we know ends up happening at the roundtable. I think
that this was cut. I think that that Ari and
(10:00):
Serry had a conversation where if the votes are going
a certain way, like we need to have a look
or some sort of signal to be able to go
towards Christian.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I missed this one part. How did they find out
Christian was bringing up their names?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, because Christian brought it, brought it up to Ari
in front of Ari when he was talking to Ari
and Quentin. That's when Ari's like, what are you doing? Like,
what is happening, dude?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Go away.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What he does is like immediately he goes and finds
Syria and is like, Okay, let me just tell you
what happened. And they didn't really show it, but in
my mind, I'm thinking that's when they hatched their plan
to be like, if we have an opportunity to get
him out, we need to do it now.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
True, and it worked, but I think he hung himself
most of the time anyway. For space.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I just feel like that's a little behind the scenes
of like they didn't show that part because if they did,
then it would make the reveal of what happened to
the roundtable not as.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Fun, you know, Yeah, I think You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right. So at the Roundtable, Christian Quentin vote for Kate,
and then Ari and Kate vote for Christian, and then
the episode ends as Andy is about to turn around
their vote card, we get left on a cliffhanger. Into
the season finale, episode ten, We're back at the roundtable
and Andy votes for Christian. Which were you surprised about
(11:42):
her vote there? No?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Wasn't she originally going to vote for Kate? She started
out saying, yeah, yeah, what changed her mind?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think because of Christian the way he acted so
many times, because because of the the things like bringing
up that he turned I think when he had mentioned
that he turned down when they tried to recruit him,
everybody was never the same after that with him. So
I think when it came down to it, he was more.
(12:19):
I think that was the nail in his coffin for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I also wonder if his defense wasn't very strong, like
it wasn't. Yeah, And that's I think that Like, And
when I think about Kate, like going back to you know,
people who like you never believe that you that they
could be a trader. Kate is also kind of one
of those people. For me, if I was playing the game,
I would be like this. It's wild if you're a trader,
(12:45):
because the way you're acting, you do it seems like
you don't want to be here. You're throwing missions like
it's so obvious, you know. And I could see myself
in that roundtable being like, well, it might be Kate.
But then when I hear his response, I'm like, oh,
I think that he might be a trader.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would have absolutely thought Kate was a trader if
I was playing that season, for sure, just because it's
it's a good you know, the way she's acting in
good defense, like I don't care kick me out, you know,
I don't know the traders, very very suspicious.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
See I feel different. I would have not thought she
was a trader because she voted herself out. She just
wanted to leave. She just wanted to go home.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The trader not in this episode. She didn't want to
go home. She wanted to win. Well, this guy shit changed.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yea, it changed. When you start to get to the end,
you start to taste it like you walk it. You
could walk in and be like I'm not a gamer,
like I just I don't really know this right right,
and just like she said, because now she finally said
and you know, you're sitting in that room and the
and the guy behind the wall when you're having your
confessionals is like, did you think you'd make it this far?
(13:52):
And she's like She's like, no, I guess sucking at
the game made me get this far.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, helped her out.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It did help her out. So you have to under
like the gamers play differently, the traders play differently.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I want to know. I want to get around
the pott and see like did she really not want
to be there? Or is just her just being that's
her stick?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Like I believe she really didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think Kate didn't want to do the missions. I
think she didn't want to be bothered. I think people
got on her nerves.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But she went back to other times.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Who's you're getting paid.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And you get to go back as like she even
when she came back the next time as a trader,
she didn't even want to be a trader. She was like,
I don't want this.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, are you gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
They're like, well, we're gonna get rid of you unless
you say this, And she's like, what choice do I have? Now?
I'm here like I made it to Scotland, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, she lives, she fights to live another day because
it is a question of whom they get rid of.
It's finally like, oh, good job, I'm glad you guys
you got this guy. But it's one of the things
of when as an audience member, it's unfair because we
are seeing what's happened in the turret right like, so
(15:08):
you have to give them a little bit of grace.
But finally Christian is gone and he goes into his
interview and he starts crying about him.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, no, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And you know how I feel about criers, girls and
guys alike. So I was like, are you kidding me?
But I almost felt bad. It's the first time I
liked him, even though I hate criers. It was the
first time this guy was like, I feel so bad
for what I had to do to people as a trader,
Like in his heart, he was really good and it
(15:43):
bothered him of course because he lost. Also if he
walked away with that money, I don't know how much
it would have bothered him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What does he do for a living?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Do we know he is an adventure enthusiast, an actor,
a public speaker, and a retired Army veteran at tea.
After his time the military, Christian hit the Road documentary
his travels hiking the Italian coast to backcountry camping through
national parks. So it sounds like he does kind of
cool yeah YouTube stuff, and he was You're right, he
(16:15):
was in the Army.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Thank you for your service, Christian. Thank you. Sorry. If
I'm busting your balls, I take.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It back, all right. So Alan comes into the banishing
roundtable and says he's got drinks outside. He takes everyone
out and he's like, hey, good, good news, guys, no
one's getting murdered tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You I wanted a bagpiper. How come we didn't get
a bagpiper. I love a good bagpiper, as you know.
I go to a lot of police functions and there's
always bagpipers there, and what not to? I mean, how
could I have left Scotland without seeing one?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Come on, you're telling me that on your season. And
wasn't not one bagpipe being played?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Not one really? And I was so disappointed. And again
I will tell you it was the best time of
my life. You all know how I feel about it.
My only regret is I did not get to have
a Scottish bagpiper there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Did you get a glass of champagne your last day?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I did? We did after after the fire pit. We
got a glass to champagne, but not before.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Was it like limo champs like shit champagne? Or was
it good?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I didn't get to drink it because I had to
go right into as they called a MIBs.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
MIBs, I haven't heard that word in a long time.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That's what they called the confessionals.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
What do you call them on Real Housewives?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Confessional confessionals?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
On Batcher, they're called ims.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, what does that stand for? In the moment, in
the moment, that's why I thought, oh, we used to
have ots.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Take a guess?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Oh, the on the fly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
On the fly. So basically, and it became, you know,
I'm a dinosaur in this industry. So they would pull
us out of scene and if we're at a party
and they have a little confessional area and they recalled otfs,
and we would do our confessionals that way.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's the way it should be done.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And then you remember, you remember, yeh.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Little backstory on what we do now for confessionals six
months later a year, right, you, guys, I just did
my last confessional.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I think it's my last one last week, last wed Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Okay, and we're doing like a.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Half halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So, and I won't be surprised that they called me
to do some pickups. Then that's not easy.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's not easy, and I think they should go back
to the old way of doing it. And they do
that now on Traders. Guys. They you do confessionals in
the scene at times and in the morning before you
go to breakfast, and that's where you find out whether
you're coming back or not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The Traders all gather the tour one last time. Arian
series say that they have complete trust in one another.
It's great setup. I love that, And they decide to
banish Quinton next the breakfast the next morning, they didn't
have to worry about a murder, so everyone came to breakfast.
Everyone was chill, and then everyone splits up. Quentin straight
(19:15):
up asks Ari where he stands with him, and Ari
admits he's suspicious of Quinton.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
What is he supposed to say? I mean, it's slim pickens.
Now you're suspicious?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, you're suspicious of everybody at this point, Well, you
could be suspicious of somebody who's been wrong every single time.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, if you remember, he didn't vote for Cody and
he didn't vote for Christian, both of which were Traders.
So it makes total sense for everyone to be like,
of course you didn't vote for your fellow Traders, and
now you're the only one left.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
But you see, I can debunk that because the Traders
are the ones that turn on each other first. So
having known that, now that we're going into the fourth season,
you gotta start to think, like if we were to
go back knowing what we know now right camera, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, at this point they don't know like if
there's one Trader, two Traders, there could be two. They
definitely know there's not three. When you ended your season,
how many Traders were left?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Two? Every year? I mean every season they have to
switch it up, they have to do something, but to
win as a trade, like when when Ari walked out
of this, Oh my god, we'll get to that, but
I was dying. I was dying.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I know. I still want them to do a season
where they don't let us the viewers know who the
Traders are.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I think that's the next thing that they're going to do. Yeah,
I think that's what season four dis.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Guy's their voice. Do whatever you have to keep them
covered up.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I agree with you, And that would cause mayhem in
this world, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
M I also think it would make the audience realize
how hard it is to figure out who it is.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, they need to do that because everyone they
liked to sit on their couch and start screaming at
the TV and how didn't you know? And you know,
there's so many factors involved on whether or not you're
gonna vote for somebody that you know. In my season,
when Boston Rob, everyone's like he's a trader, he's a
trader whatever. I spent the whole day with him as
(21:25):
he was talking Sierra through the bug challenge, and you
saw such a soft side of this guy who's talking
about how he misses his daughters, and.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Just it was that's what those gamers do. They pull
that shit Dan. That Dan pulled that shit on me.
He was sitting there telling me about his kids and
his wife and how much she loves her and all
the cards he wrote in her put in his suitcase.
I'm like, oh, he's so nice. He's nice trader.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He wasn't rob.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You're the biggest trader in the player.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, you're gonna watch out future people. Watch out for
those gamers they play those games.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Had I not spend the day with him, I promise
you I would have voted for him. Truth.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So the last mission looks awesome to me. They're jumping
out of the helicopter, would you, lady.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Cold Water? I would do anything, but you didn't do that.
I hung out of a helicopter over a ring of fire.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, now, thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Drop I loved it and dropped gold bags of gold
into the ring of fire, and that's how you would
win the money. But you know, I think I got
two bags in missed one. Whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's not something i'd want to do, but if I
had to do it, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well. I hate being cold more than anything on this planet.
So too, Cold Water not doing it. I'm just not
But I would for the game. I'll do anything for traders, but.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'll do anything, but I won't be buried alive.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh that too, No, No, that's where I quit.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I quit.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I quit, I quit peace out it I never get
from me. You are not burying me alive, and I'm
not getting into coffin. However, everything else the bugs not
happy about jumping in cold water. The worst thing you
could ever do to me. I'll do it, but not No,
not getting very alive.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Listen, I'm proud of them. Though they got all the money.
They got the full two hundred fifty thousand dollars they did,
which I feel like that didn't happen in your season, Doris, right,
like you didn't get they didn't get all the money.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No, it was two hundred something and you split it
between who you and four people? Oh you got ever
you pay tax me you got nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, New Jersey taxes and Scotland taxes on both sides.
It was Dylan, Gabby Iver and me. Yeah, it was
about the experience.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You got fifty dollars you owed that, Yeah, exactly did.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, for sure. I spent that much time my wardrobe
when I got.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You just have to think like, oh, you got a
free trip to Scotland first class. When you guys finished
the show, did you have to do one of those
exit interviews where you actually get to go in a
car and drive to a totally different location. We went
to a hotel and did interviews there. Did you guys
do that?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You did? It was like the most exciting thing because
it was like, oh my god, I got to see
a little bit of Scotland driving in the car for
like thirty minutes to this hotel, and I got to
go to the bar and order a real drink at
the bar, and it was like, oh god, this is
so fun.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Good old days, Good old days.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It does make you miss it just watching and seeing
like the castle in each room, You're like, oh, I
miss it. I'm probably never going to see it again,
but I miss it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Why don't they bring us back camera?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You work on it, Okay, Okay, I feel like you
got some poles still.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You got some poll you want?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
If they do an All Star you definitely will go
because they'll probably be all the winners.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I've heard of the All Stars talk, but it's from us.
We made it up.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, let's go to the last roundtable. There's a
discussion before the group makes their vote. It seems pretty
obviously what's gonna happen. Kate votes for Quentin and the
votes for Kate, Ari votes for Quinton, Quintin votes for Kate,
and lastly, Siri is the one that, like, I'm surprised
about what she did me too. She votes for Kate
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and Kate's banished. She's of all the people I thought
would just like light that place on fire and burned.
As she walked out, she was very very chill, very sweet.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, but don't you feel like her demeanor changed the
last two episodes like.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
She wanted it, she wanted to win. Yeah, it definitely did,
because she's like right there and it's not even about
the money at that point, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Being all that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, and I you know, she made it against all
odds of her own doing. But yeah, and it's just
it's hard. It's hard at the end to think that
you're not going to win together. And uh, that's why
I'm like this, this uh fire pit in the end
is like this one's intense nail bier, absolute nail bier.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It is intense.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So all they all decide what they're gonna do. They're
gonna throw in the pounch that's got the red smoke,
or throw in the pounch that's got the green smoke.
Alan asked for everyone to do it grabs them all
and if one player wants to banish, then then they
have to figure it out again. I guess uh Ari, Andy,
and Quinton all choose to end the game, which is
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what I was saying up this earlier. Surprised me. That
means that they all think obviously Ari not because he's
a trader, but you're telling me about.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
No one else is trader.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They think that they've gotten all the traders.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, why would Ari throw in the green because he
thought that him and Surrey would split the money?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah at the end, Yeah, Okay. Then Siri says, no,
I'm not I still think there's or whatever and says
something that's that's pretty pointed and very very I thought
was revealing and risky to say. Is that she said
there's someone here that doesn't deserve it. And what she's
(27:25):
saying is is that Ari, you don't deserve it to
you don't deserve to win this money because you haven't
been a trader as long as I have been. But
in saying that, the two others could figure out, like,
wait a second, what why why would you think that
Ari doesn't deserve it as much as just because.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
He wasn't a trader the entire time he played the game,
and he made it to the end. So why she
so much? I mean, yeah, so much better. Yeah I
didn't either. It doesn't matter if you're a trader.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You have done that camera.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Which part dropped out?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
No? No, no, what what sirih did to him? Like
like was.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I mean, she's playing to win, that's for sure, and
she didn't. Obviously she's making a point right there saying
I ain't split in the money. And I think that
that triggered his brain to go, you know what, I
know this, I know what this girl's doing. So I'm
just gonna, you know what, gracefully back out. I don't
really need the money, he said. He's got a successful business.
You know, she's a single mom and all this stuff.
So I think he was just doing the polite thing.
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But I would have loved to see if he didn't
back out, what would have happened.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'm so surprised that he did it, and I imagine
production was he did her a favor. You're leaving, You're
admitting it, You're leaving.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
To me.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It blew my mind because if I was, if I
was an actual, faithful I'd be like, hold on, you
don't think that someone deserves to be here, But why
we've all been here, If we're all faithful, we've all
been here the same amount of time, we've all been
doing this same mission. Yeah, so why you because if
you're if you're saying this as a faithful then it
doesn't make any sense. If you're saying it as a trader,
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it makes sense because you would think that you deserve
it over someone else, if especially if you did recruit someone.
I'm amazed that it didn't backfire on them.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Can I go as far as to say it's because
he's a nice guy. I know that he didn't want
to also hurt those people in the end?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, Mike, he was. His heart was in it. At
that point. You could tell either he's like, you know what,
I people, I don't need this money at the end
of the day. If it's going to be split between
it's not life change it.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
There's two people standing here looking at me saying we
want together, who are going to walk away with nothing,
and she's screwing me anyway, So it's not worth it.
It's not worth me being a part of hurting these
two people standing here who really, in their heart think
that they made it. Yeah, oh it sucked.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was so Ari leaves and then they all have
to vote again, and all three of them vote and
the game. I mean, at that point they must be like, well,
thank god it went the way it did because the
last trader is now gone and we have definitely won.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But it made Surih look like an asshole totally, you
know what I mean? Because poor Andy, like she's so excited,
she needs the money so bad, she has a baby
on the way, and and she's like, yes, I'm gonna
get some money. And then that just crushed her.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, crush her.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Because both of them queen to Quentin too.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But I think Andy worse. But I think that the
I think that the betrayal of Surri, like she trusted her, it's.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So deserrating, Yeah, viscerating.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I wonder if there was any hard feelings. I wonder
if they ever talked after that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I gotta say no. Surrey insists that the bonds that
they formed were real, but she needed to do this
for her family. Do you belie leave her when she
says that, well.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's a good justification to I believe she believes that
I believe it made her decision easier than anyway. I mean,
isn't a human nature to justify when you're doing something
wrong for the sake of something else. Yeah, I don't
really think she cared that much.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
A quarter of a million dollars makes you not care
about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, big. And she played for her family, she said,
And that's the way it went.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And there's yet to be a trader play better than her. Honestly, no,
to be sad. I would say Phaedra is a close second.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
She played well, But by the time Phedra was able
to be a trader, people wore more savvy with the game.
Traders characteristics, the way they go on patterns. You know
a lot of people, you're able to figure out what
they do by watching their patterns. Like, had I watched
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this game the way I'm watching it now, I would
have played a very different way. I would have lost.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, that's not good. Well, Suriy and Andy are following
each other on Instagram. Oh, but Quentin and Surrey do
not follow each other.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
M he's salty, he's pissed.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Well, guess what, Siri's not pissed when she's paying those
bills making her mother happy we did.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Didn't she get another show too, Siri? Yeah, did I
hear she going?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I don't know, but I remember seeing her on Watch
What Happens Live. She was so beautiful and lovely.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
She's back on Survivor. You could pay me a million
dollars to go on Survivor. No, not a chance. I
don't like listening outside.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'd probably do anything from million dollars. By the way,
but I don't think I could be buried alive.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Nope, I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't suffer well these days.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I would die in there. I would have a heart
attack and die in Survivor and being buried somewhere. Yeah,
but I'm so you can offer me a billion dollars
not survive.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It in Survivor. I think about the bug bites.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, the bugs, the snakes, the animals, the little the food.
All of it's been.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
On five times. It's easy for her.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh well, she played an absolutely amazing game and it
was a fantastic season. I'm not surprised that these guys
and Studio Lambert are winning Emmy's like Left brighton Center
because the game is very, very good. Closing thoughts on
the season, favorite part least favorite part. What do you
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guys think?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh wow, I mean, to.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Be honest, the end for me, the least I was
going to say the same thing, the least favorite for me.
It was so good and so bad at the same time.
To see people just so crushed and eviscerated by you know,
their dreams, crushed of what they're doing with the money
and how hard they worked, and then the person they
(34:15):
trusted along the way. It's actually like I was traumatized
to tell on my belt.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So bad, very good TV, very good TV. But I
can put me. I don't even know if you could
even script it to be that good.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
You can't script it. You cannot script reality. Let's face it,
the raw emotions you can act that. I mean, it's
just amazing. But I think the best part of this season.
I think the missions were amazing, especially for the first
season till this day. I want to say this is
one of the top seasons for missions.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't know, I feel like the missions get better
every season.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I felt that like these were up there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think they're all up there. I think every year
they're just doing something so different.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, no, I mean they have to, but these these uh,
these were pretty cool jumping into the cold water.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh so now we move on to season two, episode
one and two for next week. Do you guys remember
anything about this season?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh yeah I do, Well that was your season. That
was season I take that back. Yeah I remember, Yeah,
that was my season.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's gonna be weird watching it again because I don't
think i've watched it since it aired a couple of
years ago. And yeah, I just all think, oh god,
I wish I could just do it all over again. Yeah,
but I've done it so differently.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I wonder what it's going to feel like to watch
yourself your season back.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't really like to watch myself period.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Same.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well, for next week, I'm gonna need you to do
that because.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I've been doing it. I've been doing it all right forward.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So it guys, Thanks so much for joining us on
by Order of the Faithfuls. Please follow us on Instagram
at by Order of the Faithfuls, like review, subscribe all
that stuff, Tell your friends if they are Faithful or
Trader fans, and we'll be back again next week. Again,
we'll be doing season two, episode one and two. See
you guys, hie soon ChIL
All right, all you traitors and faithfuls out there, it's
time for another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls.
I'm wells, and I'm alongside.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Camra, Judge and Dolores Catanya. You guys, this is it
season one. We got that. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I didn't move forward even when I wanted to, and
it was so worth the wait. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I move forward a little bit at times, just because
I had to know. But it was such a good
first season.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I get the reason people get addicted. I really do.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The ending of it is wild, and obviously we'll get there,
but I had kind of forgotten what the ending was like.
And then seeing Already's decisions Siri kind of finally coming
through in the end and getting all that money for
our family was just it was just such a beautiful
(01:01):
television ending.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I thought, I don't think there's been a better ending
out of all three seasons so far.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I agree, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It took my breath away because it was it was
very hard decisions on the traders that were left right,
and I agree with both of their decisions, although I
wouldn't have had to be the one to make either one.
I wouldn't have wanted to be the one to make
either one of them. It was hard. It was hard
on Siri, it was hard on Ari to say, listen,
(01:32):
I've been here this whole time. I'm going to walk out.
But we'll get to that. And yeah, it was great,
amazing and deserved the Emmys. It's been given.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We got to talk about it winning Outstanding Reality Competition Program.
I mean, are we surprised. I do feel like it
is the best reality TV competition show out there.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I I don't watch any other ones.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You I don't watch No, I don't watch No, I
really don't. But I'd have to say just watching it
and watching it because I've seen so many episodes this time,
Like last night I was watching. I was because I
knew they were up for Emmy and all that, and
I'm watching the music, the way the camera operates, all
those things that you normally just I don't really pick
(02:24):
up on, and I'm like, it is pretty incredible. Everything
they do is so like magical.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's very cinematic, I guess is the word for it,
you know, and it's impressive for a reality show.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But you have to like that is the biggest production
crew I've ever worked with.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh yeah, well behind the scenes. As you know, a
lot of people don't know they actually have a wellness
team and they're constantly asking you if you are okay,
if there's anything you need, and they mean it. It's
not just like a perfunctory thing that they do. I mean,
the UK does it right, I have to say.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I think one of the things that separates this show
from a lot of the other, you know, competition shows,
which effectively now my other show, Bachelor in Paradise, turned
into one this year, so now I got to see
the kind of the different side of when you start
doing a show that involves money in gameplay, then all
of a sudden, the rules kind of change about how
you make the television show. But the thing that I
(03:29):
think that stands out the most, and this isn't a
slight on any other show's host, but Alan is such
a fantastic host and fits that role so perfectly. And
I think one of the things that separates this show
from the others is Alan not only his amazing acting ability,
which is something that I was always impressed with when
I was doing the show, that man like doesn't take cuts.
(03:52):
He doesn't you know, he doesn't ask for reshoots. He
just goes delivers this line. He looks amazing, he exits
amazingly well. And I think that unless you're like a
really good Broadway trained and you know, movie star trained actor,
you can't do that unless you're that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's true. He's actually a triple threat, right, that's what
they call they would call him. He can act, he
could sing, he can dance, he can morph into any role.
And I guess they're lucky to have him.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah. I was surprised how we hardly really saw Alan
during filming. He'd come at the breakfast, he'd throw the
thing down, he'd introduced the missions and round table. That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He doesn't break character, I'm going to tell you right now.
And he really doesn't engage with the cast at all.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He does the scene and he walks out.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, and he does. He stays true to himself right
till the end.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Let's get into the end of this season one, which
was fantastic. Siri, Ari and Christian. They gather in the turret.
Christian wants to murder Stephanie because she's onto him, but
Siri doesn't want to go along. With the plan and
they start choosing between Stephanie and Quinton. Do you think
(05:20):
it's a smart move to go after someone who's been
vocal about you being a trader As a trader.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
At this point, you really don't have a choice, right,
There's so few people left that you have to You
don't have a lot of room to play, So it's
down to the wire and you have to Now it's
like a crucial Every decision is so crucial to how
the game is going to end. You have to get
rid of that one person who is onto you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, And no matter who they choose to murder, Siri
has an all fold Yes, everybody folled ye, both of
them are aligned with her.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. The next morning, at breakfast, Ari and Siri are
the first to arrive. I both agree that Christian is
a problem. He's a liability, which I totally agree with.
Kate walks in, she can't believe she's still alive.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How far to it is? It is that Siri and
Ari were able to actually have that very important conversation
with just the two of them before anybody came in,
and that was like a very pivotal moment of the
episode that they both agreed to.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Do to do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In Christian Stephanie's the one who gets murdered, right, and
we see in her exit interview that she was actually
on to Siri, which is wild because it doesn't seem
like anyone else is sniffing that out, and they will
anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think Stephanie was a smart choice to murder. I
think that she was figured it was and down to
the wire, she's figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, she was really smart. I mean, I give her credit.
She was very boisterous for being that boisterous, and that's smart.
She lasted a long time because I think Siri covered her.
She really did, so she she was like a confident
onto her and you know, Siri kept her alive. But
they would have probably got rid of her sooner if
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it wasn't for Siri.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I got to ask, did you guys get to do
the Trader's installation like house outside?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Like in La Yeah, okay, cool, so because I wanted
to bring it up. So their mission is that they
have to basically like weave around laser beams and steel things.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
We did that right in the house. Yes, it was
so fun. I wish we would have had that on
our season, and.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He referenced Oceans, the movie where they actually did that, remember,
which I thought about. But that was a really cool thing.
I did well at the at the installation house, I
did do well and it was a cool mission. That
was a really their missions were very cool. First episode,
I feel like, I mean, first season.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But Andy, she was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The way she was like she was a cat burglar.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
She was good and it didn't look like her first time.
I'm just gonna throw it out there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
She looks like an athlete to me for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
She's sorry, sweet person.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Have you met her before?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I haven't, but I would like to meet her. I
found her to be so sincere and heartfelt the whole time,
and in the end she broke my heart. But we'll
talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I have DMed with her a few times. She's oh
you dead? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Did she get back to I wanted to?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, So everyone goes back to the castle. They
split up to talk. Quinn asked Christian and Ari who
they're voting for. Christian says Kate, but then he throws
out Siri and Ari's name as potential traders.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
He's such an ass. I want to shut ass, shut up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Oh my god, Sama, I agree with you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
When he did that, I just want what what's next, dude?
Why don't you stand up and say I'm the trade?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Like, I'm kind of amazed that he hasn't been found
out before this, right, yeah, I think they could.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
They thought that he was so goofy he couldn't possibly
be a trader. And that is something that happens in
my in my season, I thought somebody could not have
possibly been a trader because they were carol it. She
was all over the place. Had I known her history,
I would have thought more of that and looked into
(09:27):
I would play the game so differently now. But I
was like, there's no way. The girl cries and mumbles
all day long to herself, how could you be a trader?
She was a good one.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well Christian wasn't. But uh oh well, so after he
does this, always like I need to go talk to Siri,
Like I need to talk to her about this. This
is an issue, and so okay, fast forward into what
we know ends up happening at the roundtable. I think
that this was cut. I think that that Ari and
(10:00):
Serry had a conversation where if the votes are going
a certain way, like we need to have a look
or some sort of signal to be able to go
towards Christian.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I missed this one part. How did they find out
Christian was bringing up their names?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, because Christian brought it, brought it up to Ari
in front of Ari when he was talking to Ari
and Quentin. That's when Ari's like, what are you doing? Like,
what is happening, dude?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Go away.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What he does is like immediately he goes and finds
Syria and is like, Okay, let me just tell you
what happened. And they didn't really show it, but in
my mind, I'm thinking that's when they hatched their plan
to be like, if we have an opportunity to get
him out, we need to do it now.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
True, and it worked, but I think he hung himself
most of the time anyway. For space.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I just feel like that's a little behind the scenes
of like they didn't show that part because if they did,
then it would make the reveal of what happened to
the roundtable not as.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Fun, you know, Yeah, I think You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right. So at the Roundtable, Christian Quentin vote for Kate,
and then Ari and Kate vote for Christian, and then
the episode ends as Andy is about to turn around
their vote card, we get left on a cliffhanger. Into
the season finale, episode ten, We're back at the roundtable
and Andy votes for Christian. Which were you surprised about
(11:42):
her vote there? No?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Wasn't she originally going to vote for Kate? She started
out saying, yeah, yeah, what changed her mind?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think because of Christian the way he acted so
many times, because because of the the things like bringing
up that he turned I think when he had mentioned
that he turned down when they tried to recruit him,
everybody was never the same after that with him. So
I think when it came down to it, he was more.
(12:19):
I think that was the nail in his coffin for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I also wonder if his defense wasn't very strong, like
it wasn't. Yeah, And that's I think that Like, And
when I think about Kate, like going back to you know,
people who like you never believe that you that they
could be a trader. Kate is also kind of one
of those people. For me, if I was playing the game,
I would be like this. It's wild if you're a trader,
(12:45):
because the way you're acting, you do it seems like
you don't want to be here. You're throwing missions like
it's so obvious, you know. And I could see myself
in that roundtable being like, well, it might be Kate.
But then when I hear his response, I'm like, oh,
I think that he might be a trader.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would have absolutely thought Kate was a trader if
I was playing that season, for sure, just because it's
it's a good you know, the way she's acting in
good defense, like I don't care kick me out, you know,
I don't know the traders, very very suspicious.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
See I feel different. I would have not thought she
was a trader because she voted herself out. She just
wanted to leave. She just wanted to go home.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The trader not in this episode. She didn't want to
go home. She wanted to win. Well, this guy shit changed.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yea, it changed. When you start to get to the end,
you start to taste it like you walk it. You
could walk in and be like I'm not a gamer,
like I just I don't really know this right right,
and just like she said, because now she finally said
and you know, you're sitting in that room and the
and the guy behind the wall when you're having your
confessionals is like, did you think you'd make it this far?
(13:52):
And she's like She's like, no, I guess sucking at
the game made me get this far.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, helped her out.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It did help her out. So you have to under
like the gamers play differently, the traders play differently.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I want to know. I want to get around
the pott and see like did she really not want
to be there? Or is just her just being that's
her stick?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Like I believe she really didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think Kate didn't want to do the missions. I
think she didn't want to be bothered. I think people
got on her nerves.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But she went back to other times.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Who's you're getting paid.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And you get to go back as like she even
when she came back the next time as a trader,
she didn't even want to be a trader. She was like,
I don't want this.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, are you gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
They're like, well, we're gonna get rid of you unless
you say this, And she's like, what choice do I have? Now?
I'm here like I made it to Scotland, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, she lives, she fights to live another day because
it is a question of whom they get rid of.
It's finally like, oh, good job, I'm glad you guys
you got this guy. But it's one of the things
of when as an audience member, it's unfair because we
are seeing what's happened in the turret right like, so
(15:08):
you have to give them a little bit of grace.
But finally Christian is gone and he goes into his
interview and he starts crying about him.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, no, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And you know how I feel about criers, girls and
guys alike. So I was like, are you kidding me?
But I almost felt bad. It's the first time I
liked him, even though I hate criers. It was the
first time this guy was like, I feel so bad
for what I had to do to people as a trader,
Like in his heart, he was really good and it
(15:43):
bothered him of course because he lost. Also if he
walked away with that money, I don't know how much
it would have bothered him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What does he do for a living?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Do we know he is an adventure enthusiast, an actor,
a public speaker, and a retired Army veteran at tea.
After his time the military, Christian hit the Road documentary
his travels hiking the Italian coast to backcountry camping through
national parks. So it sounds like he does kind of
cool yeah YouTube stuff, and he was You're right, he
(16:15):
was in the Army.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Thank you for your service, Christian. Thank you. Sorry. If
I'm busting your balls, I take.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It back, all right. So Alan comes into the banishing
roundtable and says he's got drinks outside. He takes everyone
out and he's like, hey, good, good news, guys, no
one's getting murdered tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You I wanted a bagpiper. How come we didn't get
a bagpiper. I love a good bagpiper, as you know.
I go to a lot of police functions and there's
always bagpipers there, and what not to? I mean, how
could I have left Scotland without seeing one?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Come on, you're telling me that on your season. And
wasn't not one bagpipe being played?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Not one really? And I was so disappointed. And again
I will tell you it was the best time of
my life. You all know how I feel about it.
My only regret is I did not get to have
a Scottish bagpiper there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Did you get a glass of champagne your last day?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I did? We did after after the fire pit. We
got a glass to champagne, but not before.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Was it like limo champs like shit champagne? Or was
it good?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I didn't get to drink it because I had to
go right into as they called a MIBs.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
MIBs, I haven't heard that word in a long time.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That's what they called the confessionals.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
What do you call them on Real Housewives?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Confessional confessionals?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
On Batcher, they're called ims.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, what does that stand for? In the moment, in
the moment, that's why I thought, oh, we used to
have ots.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Take a guess?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Oh, the on the fly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
On the fly. So basically, and it became, you know,
I'm a dinosaur in this industry. So they would pull
us out of scene and if we're at a party
and they have a little confessional area and they recalled otfs,
and we would do our confessionals that way.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's the way it should be done.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And then you remember, you remember, yeh.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Little backstory on what we do now for confessionals six
months later a year, right, you, guys, I just did
my last confessional.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I think it's my last one last week, last wed Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Okay, and we're doing like a.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Half halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So, and I won't be surprised that they called me
to do some pickups. Then that's not easy.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's not easy, and I think they should go back
to the old way of doing it. And they do
that now on Traders. Guys. They you do confessionals in
the scene at times and in the morning before you
go to breakfast, and that's where you find out whether
you're coming back or not.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The Traders all gather the tour one last time. Arian
series say that they have complete trust in one another.
It's great setup. I love that, And they decide to
banish Quinton next the breakfast the next morning, they didn't
have to worry about a murder, so everyone came to breakfast.
Everyone was chill, and then everyone splits up. Quentin straight
(19:15):
up asks Ari where he stands with him, and Ari
admits he's suspicious of Quinton.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
What is he supposed to say? I mean, it's slim pickens.
Now you're suspicious?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, you're suspicious of everybody at this point, Well, you
could be suspicious of somebody who's been wrong every single time.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, if you remember, he didn't vote for Cody and
he didn't vote for Christian, both of which were Traders.
So it makes total sense for everyone to be like,
of course you didn't vote for your fellow Traders, and
now you're the only one left.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
But you see, I can debunk that because the Traders
are the ones that turn on each other first. So
having known that, now that we're going into the fourth season,
you gotta start to think, like if we were to
go back knowing what we know now right camera, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know, at this point they don't know like if
there's one Trader, two Traders, there could be two. They
definitely know there's not three. When you ended your season,
how many Traders were left?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Two? Every year? I mean every season they have to
switch it up, they have to do something, but to
win as a trade, like when when Ari walked out
of this, Oh my god, we'll get to that, but
I was dying. I was dying.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I know. I still want them to do a season
where they don't let us the viewers know who the
Traders are.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I think that's the next thing that they're going to do. Yeah,
I think that's what season four dis.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Guy's their voice. Do whatever you have to keep them
covered up.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I agree with you, And that would cause mayhem in
this world, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
M I also think it would make the audience realize
how hard it is to figure out who it is.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, they need to do that because everyone they
liked to sit on their couch and start screaming at
the TV and how didn't you know? And you know,
there's so many factors involved on whether or not you're
gonna vote for somebody that you know. In my season,
when Boston Rob, everyone's like he's a trader, he's a
trader whatever. I spent the whole day with him as
(21:25):
he was talking Sierra through the bug challenge, and you
saw such a soft side of this guy who's talking
about how he misses his daughters, and.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Just it was that's what those gamers do. They pull
that shit Dan. That Dan pulled that shit on me.
He was sitting there telling me about his kids and
his wife and how much she loves her and all
the cards he wrote in her put in his suitcase.
I'm like, oh, he's so nice. He's nice trader.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He wasn't rob.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You're the biggest trader in the player.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, you're gonna watch out future people. Watch out for
those gamers they play those games.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Had I not spend the day with him, I promise
you I would have voted for him. Truth.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So the last mission looks awesome to me. They're jumping
out of the helicopter, would you, lady.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Cold Water? I would do anything, but you didn't do that.
I hung out of a helicopter over a ring of fire.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, now, thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Drop I loved it and dropped gold bags of gold
into the ring of fire, and that's how you would
win the money. But you know, I think I got
two bags in missed one. Whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's not something i'd want to do, but if I
had to do it, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well. I hate being cold more than anything on this planet.
So too, Cold Water not doing it. I'm just not
But I would for the game. I'll do anything for traders, but.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'll do anything, but I won't be buried alive.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh that too, No, No, that's where I quit.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I quit.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I quit, I quit peace out it I never get
from me. You are not burying me alive, and I'm
not getting into coffin. However, everything else the bugs not
happy about jumping in cold water. The worst thing you
could ever do to me. I'll do it, but not No,
not getting very alive.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Listen, I'm proud of them. Though they got all the money.
They got the full two hundred fifty thousand dollars they did,
which I feel like that didn't happen in your season, Doris, right,
like you didn't get they didn't get all the money.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No, it was two hundred something and you split it
between who you and four people? Oh you got ever
you pay tax me you got nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, New Jersey taxes and Scotland taxes on both sides.
It was Dylan, Gabby Iver and me. Yeah, it was
about the experience.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You got fifty dollars you owed that, Yeah, exactly did.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, for sure. I spent that much time my wardrobe
when I got.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You just have to think like, oh, you got a
free trip to Scotland first class. When you guys finished
the show, did you have to do one of those
exit interviews where you actually get to go in a
car and drive to a totally different location. We went
to a hotel and did interviews there. Did you guys
do that?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You did? It was like the most exciting thing because
it was like, oh my god, I got to see
a little bit of Scotland driving in the car for
like thirty minutes to this hotel, and I got to
go to the bar and order a real drink at
the bar, and it was like, oh god, this is
so fun.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Good old days, Good old days.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It does make you miss it just watching and seeing
like the castle in each room, You're like, oh, I
miss it. I'm probably never going to see it again,
but I miss it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Why don't they bring us back camera?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You work on it, Okay, Okay, I feel like you
got some poles still.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You got some poll you want?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
If they do an All Star you definitely will go
because they'll probably be all the winners.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I've heard of the All Stars talk, but it's from us.
We made it up.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, let's go to the last roundtable. There's a
discussion before the group makes their vote. It seems pretty
obviously what's gonna happen. Kate votes for Quentin and the
votes for Kate, Ari votes for Quinton, Quintin votes for Kate,
and lastly, Siri is the one that, like, I'm surprised
about what she did me too. She votes for Kate
(25:32):
and Kate's banished. She's of all the people I thought
would just like light that place on fire and burned.
As she walked out, she was very very chill, very sweet.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, but don't you feel like her demeanor changed the
last two episodes like.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
She wanted it, she wanted to win. Yeah, it definitely did,
because she's like right there and it's not even about
the money at that point, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Being all that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, and I you know, she made it against all
odds of her own doing. But yeah, and it's just
it's hard. It's hard at the end to think that
you're not going to win together. And uh, that's why
I'm like this, this uh fire pit in the end
is like this one's intense nail bier, absolute nail bier.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It is intense.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So all they all decide what they're gonna do. They're
gonna throw in the pounch that's got the red smoke,
or throw in the pounch that's got the green smoke.
Alan asked for everyone to do it grabs them all
and if one player wants to banish, then then they
have to figure it out again. I guess uh Ari, Andy,
and Quinton all choose to end the game, which is
(26:47):
what I was saying up this earlier. Surprised me. That
means that they all think obviously Ari not because he's
a trader, but you're telling me about.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
No one else is trader.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They think that they've gotten all the traders.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, why would Ari throw in the green because he
thought that him and Surrey would split the money?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah at the end, Yeah, Okay. Then Siri says, no,
I'm not I still think there's or whatever and says
something that's that's pretty pointed and very very I thought
was revealing and risky to say. Is that she said
there's someone here that doesn't deserve it. And what she's
(27:25):
saying is is that Ari, you don't deserve it to
you don't deserve to win this money because you haven't
been a trader as long as I have been. But
in saying that, the two others could figure out, like,
wait a second, what why why would you think that
Ari doesn't deserve it as much as just because.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
He wasn't a trader the entire time he played the game,
and he made it to the end. So why she
so much? I mean, yeah, so much better. Yeah I
didn't either. It doesn't matter if you're a trader.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You have done that camera.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Which part dropped out?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
No? No, no, what what sirih did to him? Like
like was.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I mean, she's playing to win, that's for sure, and
she didn't. Obviously she's making a point right there saying
I ain't split in the money. And I think that
that triggered his brain to go, you know what, I
know this, I know what this girl's doing. So I'm
just gonna, you know what, gracefully back out. I don't
really need the money, he said. He's got a successful business.
You know, she's a single mom and all this stuff.
So I think he was just doing the polite thing.
(28:31):
But I would have loved to see if he didn't
back out, what would have happened.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'm so surprised that he did it, and I imagine
production was he did her a favor. You're leaving, You're
admitting it, You're leaving.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
To me.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It blew my mind because if I was, if I
was an actual, faithful I'd be like, hold on, you
don't think that someone deserves to be here, But why
we've all been here, If we're all faithful, we've all
been here the same amount of time, we've all been
doing this same mission. Yeah, so why you because if
you're if you're saying this as a faithful then it
doesn't make any sense. If you're saying it as a trader,
(29:08):
it makes sense because you would think that you deserve
it over someone else, if especially if you did recruit someone.
I'm amazed that it didn't backfire on them.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Can I go as far as to say it's because
he's a nice guy. I know that he didn't want
to also hurt those people in the end?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, Mike, he was. His heart was in it. At
that point. You could tell either he's like, you know what,
I people, I don't need this money at the end
of the day. If it's going to be split between
it's not life change it.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
There's two people standing here looking at me saying we
want together, who are going to walk away with nothing,
and she's screwing me anyway, So it's not worth it.
It's not worth me being a part of hurting these
two people standing here who really, in their heart think
that they made it. Yeah, oh it sucked.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was so Ari leaves and then they all have
to vote again, and all three of them vote and
the game. I mean, at that point they must be like, well,
thank god it went the way it did because the
last trader is now gone and we have definitely won.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But it made Surih look like an asshole totally, you
know what I mean? Because poor Andy, like she's so excited,
she needs the money so bad, she has a baby
on the way, and and she's like, yes, I'm gonna
get some money. And then that just crushed her.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, crush her.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Because both of them queen to Quentin too.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But I think Andy worse. But I think that the
I think that the betrayal of Surri, like she trusted her, it's.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So deserrating, Yeah, viscerating.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I wonder if there was any hard feelings. I wonder
if they ever talked after that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I gotta say no. Surrey insists that the bonds that
they formed were real, but she needed to do this
for her family. Do you belie leave her when she
says that, well.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's a good justification to I believe she believes that
I believe it made her decision easier than anyway. I mean,
isn't a human nature to justify when you're doing something
wrong for the sake of something else. Yeah, I don't
really think she cared that much.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
A quarter of a million dollars makes you not care
about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, big. And she played for her family, she said,
And that's the way it went.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And there's yet to be a trader play better than her. Honestly, no,
to be sad. I would say Phaedra is a close second.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
She played well, But by the time Phedra was able
to be a trader, people wore more savvy with the game.
Traders characteristics, the way they go on patterns. You know
a lot of people, you're able to figure out what
they do by watching their patterns. Like, had I watched
(32:09):
this game the way I'm watching it now, I would
have played a very different way. I would have lost.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, that's not good. Well, Suriy and Andy are following
each other on Instagram. Oh, but Quentin and Surrey do
not follow each other.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
M he's salty, he's pissed.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Well, guess what, Siri's not pissed when she's paying those
bills making her mother happy we did.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Didn't she get another show too, Siri? Yeah, did I
hear she going?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I don't know, but I remember seeing her on Watch
What Happens Live. She was so beautiful and lovely.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
She's back on Survivor. You could pay me a million
dollars to go on Survivor. No, not a chance. I
don't like listening outside.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'd probably do anything from million dollars. By the way,
but I don't think I could be buried alive.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Nope, I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't suffer well these days.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I would die in there. I would have a heart
attack and die in Survivor and being buried somewhere. Yeah,
but I'm so you can offer me a billion dollars
not survive.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It in Survivor. I think about the bug bites.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, the bugs, the snakes, the animals, the little the food.
All of it's been.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
On five times. It's easy for her.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh well, she played an absolutely amazing game and it
was a fantastic season. I'm not surprised that these guys
and Studio Lambert are winning Emmy's like Left brighton Center
because the game is very, very good. Closing thoughts on
the season, favorite part least favorite part. What do you
(33:51):
guys think?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh wow, I mean, to.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Be honest, the end for me, the least I was
going to say the same thing, the least favorite for me.
It was so good and so bad at the same time.
To see people just so crushed and eviscerated by you know,
their dreams, crushed of what they're doing with the money
and how hard they worked, and then the person they
(34:15):
trusted along the way. It's actually like I was traumatized
to tell on my belt.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So bad, very good TV, very good TV. But I
can put me. I don't even know if you could
even script it to be that good.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
You can't script it. You cannot script reality. Let's face it,
the raw emotions you can act that. I mean, it's
just amazing. But I think the best part of this season.
I think the missions were amazing, especially for the first
season till this day. I want to say this is
one of the top seasons for missions.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't know, I feel like the missions get better
every season.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I felt that like these were up there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think they're all up there. I think every year
they're just doing something so different.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, no, I mean they have to, but these these uh,
these were pretty cool jumping into the cold water.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh so now we move on to season two, episode
one and two for next week. Do you guys remember
anything about this season?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh yeah I do, Well that was your season. That
was season I take that back. Yeah I remember, Yeah,
that was my season.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's gonna be weird watching it again because I don't
think i've watched it since it aired a couple of
years ago. And yeah, I just all think, oh god,
I wish I could just do it all over again. Yeah,
but I've done it so differently.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I wonder what it's going to feel like to watch
yourself your season back.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't really like to watch myself period.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Same.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well, for next week, I'm gonna need you to do
that because.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I've been doing it. I've been doing it all right forward.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So it guys, Thanks so much for joining us on
by Order of the Faithfuls. Please follow us on Instagram
at by Order of the Faithfuls, like review, subscribe all
that stuff, Tell your friends if they are Faithful or
Trader fans, and we'll be back again next week. Again,
we'll be doing season two, episode one and two. See
you guys, hie soon ChIL
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.