By Order of the Faithfuls: The Bad Boy of the Ballroom w/ Maks Chmerkovskiy

Though Maks Chmerkovskiy’s Traitors career was short-lived, he has plenty of stories to tell. Who played the biggest role in his demise?! Would he ever step foot in that castle again?

Plus, Maks’ Dancing With the Stars opinions have been in the news lately… Hear what he has to say about the latest drama.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, welcome into another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls.
I'm Wills Adams. I'm alongside both Tamra and Dolores. I
feel like it's been a while since we've all been
in the show.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know, right, I know, well, here we are. Last
time we missed you. I missed it too. I've been
so busy. But now my slow, my slow season's coming up.
You know, after Bravo Con almost of all our episodes
have aired. Bravo CON's behind me. I get to relax.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You need that.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I get to relax for a little bit and just
do my normal housewife stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You guys get paid a ton of money for Bravocon.
I know that might be a touchy question, but I
want to know.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We get paid. I wouldn't say it's a ton of money. Yeah,
for how many days we're there and all we do?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Can you they know I don't want to do it?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, but you don't air.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Maybe you don't want to be on the TV show anymore?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Did they? I know.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I know that in the past people have complained and
and try to negotiate and things like that, but I
don't think it works. It's either everyone to go, you
don't want to say I mean everyone get paid the
same or no everyone From what I know, yes, everyone
gets paid the same. It is a big deal. Like,
think about all the talent they have to fly in,
they have to put in hotels, they pay it. I mean,

(01:16):
of course they make a ton of money too, but
it's fun. I think it's for me. I look at
it as you know, giving back to the fans and
meeting them and doing all those things that make our
shows so popular. So but also we get activations like
I'm doing one with Lexus, so there's more money to
be made as well.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's cool. It's got to be a little scary though,
because I imagine if you're that big of a fan of
the Bravo world and you're willing to go to Vegas
for it, like I feel like you could come across
some just some weird peeps. Yep, Well you said it right.
It's fifteen hundred dollars a ticket for VIP, Yeah, and

(01:59):
it's sells out in sixty seconds the whole show. Like that,
We're doing this Bachelor cruise thing next year.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Where careful with those cruises. I've been hearing a lot
of things about that.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I know I saw Johnny Banana's thing was fake, right,
his big I was.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
On one got canceled, Florish, you were on one that
got canceled. Like, I don't know. After I saw Johnny Bananas,
I'm like, I'm not I agreed to do that ever again.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, well, I'm just like, who's gonna You're gonna hang
out with me on a boat for three days? Like,
what's gonna happen? Like this seems like the start of
like a murder mystery to me, you know, right, all right, Well,
I'm excited about today's episode. We're gonna have one of
the stars of season two of the Traders. We're gonna
have Max Schmerkowski on the show. Obviously very well now

(02:47):
internationally renowned ballroom dance champion, choreographer and seventeen time Dancing
with the Stars pro who quickly became one of America's
most beloved cast members on the hit series. The Ukrainian
American dancer, often referred to as a bad boy in
the ballroom, one of the show's coveted mirror Ball Trophy
back in twenty fourteen. Max has also appeared in a
number of hit television shows, including The One That We

(03:09):
like to talk about the traders. Max, Welcome to the show,
my man, Hello, Helloo.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
There he is the bad boy of the ballroom.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't know what does it mean?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I was getting bad boy of the ballroom.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's provocative, Temera.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know me, I know you, I know you am
I bad?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh, you're actually the kindest person.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Don't say that on record, please, you're gonna you're gonna
give my image away.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And he's kind, he's sweet's he's a father and very intelligent.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
There you go. There you go again with my secrets.
Don't say that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I know, I know. How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. We haven't slept in
three days. But otherwise it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Why kids?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
The middle one is not well and he's the type
that's like that's taking the most from me. The other
through a Mopeita and my kind when I'm sick, I
am the worst person to cater to. I'm annoying, you know,
like typical men. So he's that one. So yeah, well,

(04:18):
I mean hopefully they all do. But so yeah, I'm
with you, guys.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Do you think okay? Any more kids coming soon?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Every time I talked to you.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You're another one's on the way.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, why would you wish that on us? This is
just crazy. Look, they're amazing, They're cute, they're they're amazing,
and you know, and I'm living every day like you know,
be present all these funny you know things and phrases
that we keep hearing the same, like be present and
all that stuff. And I'm trying to hone in on

(04:52):
this and be like, look this two shell pass both
the positive and the negative, right, and so this too
shell pass applies to the negatives, Well, then you got
to hold on to the positive as well. And so
I'm enjoying this, you know, being underslapped and I'm exhausted.
I'm still in the gym. I just you know, because
I have a project and Peter is on it. She

(05:13):
has a you know, she got in the middle of
us not sleeping. She got an ear infection, so she
was in an emergency room and all the night before
and so it's like life is lifing on full cylinders,
but you have to embrace it. Otherwise, what are we doing,
you know, and.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
What new projects? What new projects you have going on?
Can you share it?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I mean, I'm filming a couple of things this year.
I've already filmed a feature and I'm flying out to
do another one, and there's potentially another one coming up.
So like quietly, I try to, you know, not wave
around thoughts and wishes, but you know me by now,

(05:56):
I try to, like, here's a brick of the fire
foundation that I laid, and I want to show it
to you, right so when I'm ready, I think it'll
be a surprising revelation that that's what I've been doing.
This too, is for the projects. So usually clean face,
you know, these two little little gray patches. That's my

(06:18):
only thing. The rest, I like the soul. I got
this since the last time you saw me, So wow,
we got we got.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Are you doing like a Western or something? Are you
an undercover book?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I'm going to forest. It's script No, no, no, no, I'm fully scripted. Uh.
Feature moves and there you know, there's a there's a
twist to the latest project that's coming up that's extremely
exciting as far as the new wage way of producing
feature films and where this is going and being you know,

(06:54):
I'm finally at the at the forefront of like some
technological moves that entertainment industry is making. So I'm excited
to be a part of this stuff. Again, I'm not
trying to be super mysterious here, it's not. It's not
my thing to tell. So as soon as I'm ready
to express it, I'm so excited to share all these.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Things we want to talk to you about. You know,
the the connection between Traders and with Dancing with the Stars.
I mean it's it's it's very well known and documented
that being on Dancing with the Stars is extremely competitive,

(07:35):
but then also in Traders it is as well. I'm
wondering what your thoughts are of what show is more.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Competitive Dancing with the Stars?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, not even a question, zero questions.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And and Tembra know, so we were in you know,
my this my back to my season Emmy winning and
fantastic show and incredible presentation of basically Mafia, right, but
on on some kind of crack if we talk about
this you know, Traders and host it and you know
filmed and it was all beautiful and gorgeous and all that,

(08:08):
and one of the elements of the show that I
was really intrigued about is the physicality. Right, So you know,
in between all those discussions, those were also fun, right,
based on some things that happened during the day. We
had some challenges and all that well, my sort of
you know, abrupt my and you can see it on
my face and in my mood and in my you know,

(08:30):
when I kind of lost not lost interest in the show,
but I lost interest in what I thought the show was.
I felt like I would stand out in terms in
physical challenges and I would bring you know. So my
strategy was, Okay, you are not the you know, you're faithful,
so there isn't a chance to you know, I already
hated that position, being a sitting dock. It doesn't play

(08:53):
well with my personality at all. But at the same time,
there's no strategy here. His strategy here is just hide
and and sort of don't get shot, right, And I
hate that. I hate that feeling. I want to be
up in front. So I felt like, you know, that
would be my chance to be that physical sort of person,
you know in those challenges, right, and then I sucked
and won and then anyway, but the one challenge that

(09:15):
took it out of me all that sort of like
excitement about the show is when we were running and
it was three teams and we were running. We had
to solve some riddles, open the box, keep running, and
it was timed, which every team gets there first, it
has more time to search for these things and scarecrows whatever.
We run up to the first challenge, we did the

(09:35):
thing and we just kept running and they're like, hold
on a second. The production was like, wait, you guys
have to have more dialogue. I'm done. This is no
longer challenge. It's not tim it's not about who gets
there first. And at that point I was like, oh, okay, cool.
So if you're going back to the question about what's

(09:56):
more competitive, there's no doubt about how Dense with the
Stars sucks you in and it doesn't let go, and
everything is so hard and so challenging and so competitive,
and then you get into like, you know, the weeks later,
whoever's left standing. This is like, you know, everything that's
happening right now on the show is so hyper hyper hyper,

(10:17):
Whereas I just don't feel that that's the same project
with Traders. But when you ask the question, you know,
I mean the casting director alone, I think it's a
huge connection between both shows. It's you know, Ms Dinacat,
she's doing a fantastic job casting award winning productions, and
I think she's She's the main you know through line

(10:38):
between the two.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Now you speaking of Dance with the Stars, it's Aaron
right now. Do you have a prediction of who you
think is going to win?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Do I not? You do?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know you do? Who is it?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
No? I mean I I look, it depends on Yes,
here's my prediction. I think I think this is Robert's
season to lose. And I'm saying it that from a
standpoint of like looking at this is also our twentieth
birthday anniversary, you know, so then we start has been
around for two decades. You're talking about thirty four seasons,

(11:12):
so many winners, so many plots, so many stories. I'm
sure there's someone out there who's collecting all that data,
inserting into some kind of AI engine. It gives you
the predictability factor. Right, I'm not the guy, but I'm here.
You go if somebody of your listeners is the guy,
it's very easy. But in my opinion, that data goes
by like it's if it's a male and a female

(11:35):
celebrities who are high level dancers, the you know it's
going to go to a male I think if it's
a male and a female celebrities for a left standing
and you know, and the male celebrity has the heart,
but a female celebrity has the skill, I think it's
going to go to a male you know what I mean, Like,
it's not gonna be it's not going to be the

(11:56):
best dancer wins. I think it's gonna be the best
dancer according to who the audience like the most. And
that's again do.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You think that is because a lot of the audience
is female and they are, you know, kind of smitten
with Robert.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Why not, you know? And then there were smitten with Dylan,
and so Dylan was that heart throb for all those women.
They're like, oh my god, he took his shirt off
and then and then Robert took his shirt off and
he completely you know, not with the ebbs or with
the shirt. Who are again you have same abs? I
got the same abs, ebbs and ebbs and ebbs. Now
ebbs are canceled out right, So if you don't have

(12:33):
the ebbs, Dylan, you have to stand up to the
level of showmanship and the energy that Robert breathed. And
it's not even the same. So we can talk about.
Robert is like the favorite amongst men outside of Andy.
Who is your is your feels and soul and heart
doesn't dance, you know, I've also again been privy to
partnerships where my celebrity was not a dancer, but we

(12:56):
had that we were the heart right, so we went
all the way, whereas a lot of amazing dances got eliminated.
So I think, you know, this season, unlike any other season,
everybody can dance. Everybody who's left can dance except Andy.
But Andy is the heart and soul, and I think
that Alex and Val are poised to win by coming

(13:18):
up in the finish line and just being the strongest
into the end. Robert has to maintain his thing right
now for the next three weeks on one hundred and
ten percent. If he slips to one hundred and nine percent,
we're going to see it and it's going to look
like he's losing steam. So that's a little bit of
a negative. Dylan has no chance unless he stands up

(13:40):
and does something crazy. And then again, don't forget there's
also Jordan Childs, who has incredible amount of followers who
no one really talks about as a front runner, but
she is the Olympic gymnast that we've seen have incredible
amount of success. I would say this, and the last
thing I'll say, starting tomorrow, what is it tomorrow? Right?

(14:04):
Tomorrow show? The elimination is going to be shocking, and
then it's going to be shocking shocking again because there's
no one left who you're not going to be shocked about.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, when I went to go watch Phedra who was
on Traders with both me and Max.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And you were there.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Do you go often to watch?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
We tried in the beginning of the season and then
again Life Gotten Away and you know, we've missed couple
of shows because we were weren't in town. We definitely
coming tomorrow because it's our twentieth a diversity they're bringing.
I think something like four hundred of us got an
email about coming back this one episode, so it'll be
a room full of you know, past dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Are you going to dance?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
No? This they have they have a dance by the
all the pros who were the first who are on
the first season, that first inaugural six sixth episode pilot
season I was not a part of that started season two,
but those guys are coming back.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I heard to the Grapevine you really like the new
pro to answer.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, I'm a huge fan, are you. It's taken completely
out of context.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Then I was wondering what.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
The context here is? Very simple, not taken out of context.
Let me rephrase that. I speak with a lot of
thoughts in my head, you know, and and and and
and I also speak to a room and in a
room and with the people and all that. I'm not
speaking to general public. But if I have to say
to general public, it's it's it has nothing to do

(15:38):
with the person. You know. My commentary had nothing to
do with the person. Hence the apology afterwards, because you
know what, yes, in it, there isn't anything to change, right,
So my criticism was not out of left field. It
was just unexpected because because I'm not an analyst on

(15:59):
the on ESPN talking about basketball players, you know what,
I'm saying that that's my job. Somebody pays me to
do that. Now I'm just a professional with an opinion,
and nowadays everybody has a podcast, and so I think
that there's got to be a disclaimer. Hey, I'm about
to say some stuff, and here's the disclaimer, right, and
I didn't do that, and therefore it kind of landed off.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
What wasn't your opinion more like he wasn't trained in ballroom?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, but my opinion was about the fact that you
have a job. And again, I don't want to get
in trouble here, here's a disclaimer that the conversation and
the opinion had nothing to do with the person. And yeah,
it's probably a little bit of knock on our guesting
director friend, but it's not really also her call personally

(16:47):
by herself. But the point is you have a job that,
over the last twenty years has been the best, most
exclusive job for a ballroom dancer, you know, period. I
mean from the money standpoint, to exposure obviously, to opportunities
after in life, so on and so forth. Dancing with

(17:08):
the stars for us, the like us, people that wouldn't
have had this interduction. Had it not been for that project,
you would never know me. There would be a very
little chance that we would meet because my ballroom industry
was nothing to do with mainstream. It was very you know,
it's like curling. We don't know anybody curling until Olympics come, right,

(17:29):
you would never hear of us, And so I protect
that so hard because a lot of kids over the
last twenty years had stayed with some ballroom, had continued
in that in those footsteps, with these thoughts and with
these sort of like goals in mind. And so I'm
just like, I'm the guy that just if there are
only five spots for a male ballroom dancer available in

(17:52):
this country, why not get a male ballroom dancer who
is also fantastic in other stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. Now, after saying what you said about Traders not
being very competitive, would you ever go back the Traders? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Oh man, I mean, honestly, I think I would have
loved the redo. I'm also, again, like a lot of life,
I have to admit I wasn't so in it like
I know Mark, for example, Mark Ballast he did the
next season. I haven't seen him on it. I don't
know you know his outcome, but we spoke about some
of this, not he didn't reveal anything to me.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I saw a person who knew the show, watched the
show previously, knew every nuance about it, he NBC loved
watching it as a project, and then he got he
saw me. I was like, oh my god. And then
he gets a call and he's like, dream come true. Right,
I've never seen Traders until I was on it. You know,

(19:02):
I was on the in Napa, putting on my show.
We just had a baby. Did a lot of life happened?
You remember, I was trying to make phone calls when
it was I'm not allowed allowed it just had a baby.
I'm like, you got to call the wife. I'm not
might not have a wife when I come back. So
you know, it was all that. So I wasn't that guy.

(19:22):
I want to if I were to come back and
do it again, it would be now as someone who
knows exactly what the show is, you know, and exactly
how to try and play it.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I feel the same way now. Dolores and Wells were
both on season three, which we're recappying right now.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Delores won, oh, congratulations, should say you should do it
again because you missed half of it, not I know,
because I was sick. You were so sick. We missed you.
We thought you would you know, I don't even know
how you continued.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But going I know it was really difficult. But going back,
you you know, experience what we experienced a little that
we did. And Wells because well got cooked off pretty
early too. Going back, you know so much more, you
know what I mean, Like you would be more confident
in what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, this is what I wanted to ask you because
I think that, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty looking back
on the season, What would you have done differently to
have gotten yourself further on in the game or would
you not have changed anything.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
My strategy, Well, I would definitely stay away from Deontay.
We became best friends immediately. The reason why I left
is because he lost his mind and I was the
first only person in front of his face and he's like,
you know what, I don't know what to say. I
have nothing, I didn't prepare, but that guy, I'm like,
wait what?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And he was so convincing.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, he felt like he felt like because there was
such a you know, friendly connection, you know, and we
had moments off camera that I'm not going to talk about,
but I stand up right in front of him, and
I feel like right after that, we went to the

(21:01):
round table and he was in sort of distress and
didn't really know how to end it. And if you
remember Tamor, he was already kind of halfway out and
he's like, I don't want I don't want to be here. Yeah,
and then it went straight into it and I was
the only person in his face like, hey, bro, you're good.
We'll find chilling, like come down whatever. You know. I

(21:22):
wish I wasn't now because if I wasn't, he wouldn't
nobody to pick on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
But ultimately I think he left right after you, right
like the next.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Time, just because he realized. I think he came to
his senses and was like, wait, that was so stupid.
And also this sounded ridiculous, like I you asked me, well,
whatever would have done different? I would have I would
have I would have been more vocal in groups. There
were few groups of people that I did not interact with.

(21:51):
There were were, you know, so I didn't have I
didn't have any any kind of like I was trying
to sort of play the yield in the wrong way.
I was trying to be unattached, Like everybody knows that
I'm kind of part of everybody, right, and so you
have faithful, you have you know, you have the the traders, right,
and so everybody would kind of like feel good about Max,

(22:14):
and I felt like that was my you know I
didn't get to do it, but also I wasn't. I
was sure one hundred percent nobody's going to point a
finger at me.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
You were quiet in the very beginning. You were pretty
quiet and to yourself.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
There was a lot of scenes and this might have
been blown out of proportion or edited in a way
that wasn't real. But there's a lot of times when
you like walk into a room and then be like,
I don't want to talk.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
To you guys because I'm walking into some chaotic, you know,
kitchen discussion, and I'm like, I I'm out. I don't
want to be a part of this.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Trauma.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Trauma I found. I found the cane. I found the cane.
I was walking around the cat I was like, I'm
in the castle, I got a cane, I'm gonna suit.
I'm chilling.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know what I'm saying. You should have done more
of that, you know how.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
A lot of that They didn't show me any of that.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I know they didn't show any of it. But Vader's
whole approach was just being the sweet Southern bell and
praying on people. You should have been dancing with people,
and I don't know that's it.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's I would have I would have I would have
been a little more of that. Yeah, I felt like
I had a good strategy. Like I said, there was
a I think that my elimination or it was deontay
led and it was just a hiccup. It's like it's
a glitch in the matrix. This wasn't meant to be
it because it wasn't legitimate discussion either, not legitimate, but
you know what I'm saying, Like it was, it came
out of left field. Nobody was and once he pointed

(23:36):
me and one more person did, now I became the majority.
And Wills and you know the lords. You know that
by now, right when, especially in the beginning of the season,
when the table's like there's no yet, kind of like
we don't really know each other that much, we don't
know who's lying who's not. I was already homies with
Phedra and Tamra and a couple other people, so they

(23:56):
weren't the ones to kind of like point at me
and keep it more I think tam But by by
the time it came to camera, I was just I
was a majority. Your majority named right, so because once
it's him and it's her, but.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
He was so convincing in his speech. I've never seen
anybody on Traders and he didn't.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Say just spoke about me. Did you notice that?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I know it was really bizarre now that you mentioned that. Yeah, yeah,
so you would come back as a trader.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You're like, I'll come back as a trader, as a trader,
I think at this but like, yes, beginning in the beginning,
when I when I got out, I was like, damn it,
really wanted to be a trader. At this point, I
would come back as anything, you know, because now I know, Okay,
I get it. I get it. Yeah, there's a there's
a way through and and I get it. But even

(24:46):
if I watched the show religiously, I wouldn't have known.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
No, you don't know until you go there. I think
you guys can all agree on that. And there was
only one season before us, so it was really kind
of new and going in like I thought I had
it figured out. I did not have any of it
figured out.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
No, yeah, but but but but Faedra did, and she
did what a fantastic work. How the Lord the Laurus
looks like like that, Like she probably had that type
of experience like coming in old cut and smiley and
quiet and don't say a lot and then bam.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, Max, I'm just a fan.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I've never been so quiet in my life.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Hey, Max, we want to be respectful of your time
and also the shoulder. Right now, last question, of all
the professional dancers on Dancing with the Stars, who do
you think would be the best Trader and who would
be really good at playing the game Traders?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, again, I don't know what Mark did on the show. Again,
I think that's the lowest season, right, was Mark ballast
with you?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
No, I don't know again.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
On January?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, so I don't know. I think he might have
done well. I don't know. But again I think, hmm.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
What about your wife or your brother?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I think Val would be I think Val would be
a good player. He did he did a show get Out,
right after I did Traders, and it wasn't It wasn't
similar in nature. You have to make you know alliances
and then be physical. But I think he would have
been good at making alliances, you know, more so than me. Right,

(26:28):
I'm a little more you you know, take what you get.
But also like if you if you don't get it,
it's because I did it on purpose. I didn't show
it to you values a little more. You know, his
language skills are such that that he can befriend you,
you know through this. Right For me, it takes a
little longer because my actions, they're going to show you

(26:50):
later down the line that I am this, this, and
that with value can immediately sort of you know, take
him a certain way because of the way he speaks.
I think he'll be great if she wants to be.
That's what I'm saying. I think he'll be He'll be
great on the show.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well, we appreciate you pulling over and talking to us
for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Mad person.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Everything going forward, I'm please come back on when you
can announce the projects that you yes, congratulations on all that.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I would love to thank you so much by it
was nice seeing you.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I'm sleep by. Thanks bye bye. Well the bad boy
of Dancing with the Stars, he's so nice.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
He is so nice.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I knew he was nice, he said.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Another one like me that gets misunderstood, you know, because
he speaks his mind and he says how he feels.
And you know, you know, Dolores Jersey. People they could
take it, but a lot of people can't.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, I do think it would be fun to see
his brother or his sister in law on the show
because his wife. Yeah exactly, Yeah, every all of them,
they all have to go, and some are traders and
some are faithful.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So he was saying, he threw out a name. It
must be somebody from Dans with the Stars. Yeah, I
don't know who that guy is, but so he must
be on the upcoming season. Super excited about that. So
we're just getting you guys all revved up so we
can recap.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think it's a good season.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
War So we got to get through your guys' season
three pretty quickly. Before you know it, it's going to
be January.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, we got to rush through season three.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
The fact that the two of us were on it,
we could speak quickly on it because we lived it
and we could give you some inside stuff like you
did for us.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Speaking of Yeah, we need to catch everyone up on
season three before we get into season four, and it
starts airing on January eighth. Just stick with us. We'll
listen to the next podcast and we will get into
episode one and two of season three, which means we
will be talking about me being banished in just two episodes.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Guys so much for listening to my Order of the Faithful.
Follow us on social media, like and subscribe, Tell your
friends if they are traders or faithful, and and we'll
see you all again, very very soon.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
M mm hmm