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June 29, 2023 43 mins

After returning from a trip, Josh has some gripes. Like it is very hard to get a passport last minute. But don't worry, he showed up at 10am and faced the Children of Men vibes at the passport office and got his. What other strange and wonderful things did Josh discover on his European expedition? Where will this episode take you? You'll have to listen to find out. Discussed: being rear-ended, the pain chart, Rick Rubin, Ezra Miller, signing petitions, the Temporary Autonomous Zone.

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, and welcome to what Future. I'm your host, Josh Wazepolski.
And today I have to say I'm in an interesting
place mentally and physically. You know, physically it's not that interesting.
I'm at home, but mentally I'm traveling. I'm traveling through
the stars. Now I'm not actually doing that. I am

(00:38):
a little exhausted, you know, because I have been traveling.
And you know, when you go on a trip and
it's a long trip, and then you come back, no
one but you was on the trip. Everybody else was
where they were. When you come back home, you were
on this weird journey with all these strange people and

(01:00):
all of the people you know, like your family, like
my family for instance, or the people I work with
who didn't we're not traveling. It's just like life was
just going on normal, and so you're you may have
had a life changing experience. I didn't have a life
changing experience, but one might have had a life changing
experience on their journey. And then you have to like
ear the back at the back in the office on

(01:22):
Monday or whatever. It's very straight hard to transition. In
my opinion, there should be a I think after a
trip there should be a period and you should get
like a few days of everybody leaves you alone so
you can re enter society like a if you've been
in prison. It's kind of like ease back into the
world of the non imprisoned. Anyhow, I'm not saying travel

(01:43):
is like being in prisoned.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
But you just said it's like a halfway.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, I didn't. Did I say that transitional?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean I mean I'm saying you have to transition.
I'm saying you should be given time to transition back
into the normal world, like if you go somewhere, especially
if it's far away and you're not there for like
you're not doing the same things you do all the time.
I mean, I think, you know, maybe this is just
the oh, I need a vacation after the vacation. I
didn't take a vacation, but if I had, right, Like,

(02:12):
do you buffer when if you go on a trip,
do you buffer time afterwards to like return to your life,
because I think people should.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, No, I don't mean you mean you add on
an extra day or you come back a day early.
That's right, Yeah, you ad Yeah, I've never done it.
I mean it sounds incredible, but It's never been an
option in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Right, No, it's not really an option for anybody. I'm
not saying you can. I mean I'm saying, like, you know,
I've cut trips short for the purpose of having a
day that isn't being on the trip. I mean, like, Okay,
that's enough. I got to go home so I can
like get back into the swing of like living of
normal life. But before I talk about my travels, which
I guess I have a little bit, there's something more

(02:58):
more pressing and more present that has occurred. So I

(03:18):
got rear ended. Did I tell you this? I've started
to tell you guys. By the way, when you say
I was rear ended, I feel like it does it
It's not immediate, like to everybody that you're talking about
the car. Is that just me? Look yeah, Like I
hear the words, I'm like, it takes me a second
to think about what that means. You know, rearended. It
doesn't sound like a car accident. Sounds like it kind

(03:40):
of sounds like a sex thing. To be honest, I
was rereended. It's like it's like that feels like a genre,
a porn hub, like a tag on corn hub.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think you're the only one thinking that.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Nah, somebody else's thought it, believed me. None of these
thoughts are that original. None of them are that thought.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They haven't said it.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, that's why I'm getting paid the big bucks, so
I'm not afraid to say what's on everyone's mind. Rear
Ended sounds like a sex thing. Anyhow, I was rear
ended yesterday. I was sitting at a stop a stop
light and a light a red light. Do people call
red lights stop lights? Nobody calls with that, right, that's

(04:19):
not a phrase. Anyhow, I was sitting at a light
and a like, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
I want to say two thousand and two Grand Cherokee
rear ended me. You know, it's funny because like I
heard the screech of the of the tires on the
it was it had been raining, but this person was
definitely going too fast. I heard the screech of the

(04:40):
tires and I was like, oh, that's a bad noise.
That doesn't sound good. But I didn't do anything, like,
I just sat there for a second. I mean, it
happened very quickly, but it was interesting because I'm like,
that is not a good sound. And then I got hit.
But you know it's funny about the Tesla is that
they have cameras everywhere, and the cameras are recording all
the time. So I have footage of the act accident,

(05:00):
which is interesting, and honestly that the Cherokee ends up
a lot worse than my car. My car actually has
no damage on it from what I can tell. There's
like a little scuff on the bumper, but the Cherokee's
bumper was like fully dented.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
So can I ask you a question about how that works? Like, please,
do I see this? There's like baby monitors that are
always recording.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yes, where does that go?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like I mean if with Tesla's always recording, does it
erase him on the line?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
It does erase? Yeah, it erased it. So there's there's
a little U SD card in the glove compartment which
I actually didn't even realize was there. But they have
this little SD card plugged into a USB port in
the glove compartment and it's recording some amount of footage,
like I had like an hour of driving footage from
that day. Now I went to check it. I was
going to show Zelda. I was telling her about it,

(05:47):
and this morning. I was as I was dropping her
off at her summer camp. I was like, you know,
I had this video of it, and then I went
to look for it and it's gone, like it has
been replaced by newer video. So I assume that there.
What's interesting is you would think the car they would
have at least enough of intelligence to go, hey, this car.
The car got hit by another car, so we should

(06:08):
keep that. Although I did save the video, so I
have it on my computer. I have the saved video
from all of the cameras as the accident happened with
the bummers. I don't have any of the video after it,
because there's some video of me walking around the car,
which I would like to check out, see how I look,
you know, see how my pants are fitting, that kind
of stuff, But that's gone forever. I guess I'll just

(06:28):
have to do that right now. I'm gonna go walk
around my car just like casually, and then I can look.
I could review the footage anyhow, but then I also
have a new injury. I have a bad injury I
have I think it's called bresiitis in my elbow. I
don't know exactly how it happened. But it's very painful
if I lean on my right elbow like on a chair,

(06:49):
or even like if I'm in bed and I prop
myself up to read or something. Doesn't happen all the time,
but a lot of the time. Now it is like
a level ten. You know the pain chart, You know
where they have the faces. Have you ever seen the
pain chart? Yeah, pain charts a good name for a band. Also,
like he did, for like a metal band. It's like
a ten on the pain chart. Ten is like as
painful as anything can be. Of course, I'm also a man,

(07:12):
huge baby, so for me it's a ten. For a
normal person it's probably like a three.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But they say that men always register their pain is
higher on the scales than the women do.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well. Men are, as we know, huge, huge babies and
have a low tolerance for pain and discomfort. I mean,
most of the world's problems, I imagine are because like
men didn't want to be uncomfortable or put out, or
like you know, they were angry about having their feelings
hurt or something like nine out of ten times, like
a war has started because some man was hurt by

(07:44):
another man. In all likelihood, huge babies of all of
us the whole set. You know, I'm broken down piece
of meat like Mickey Rourke from The Wrestler. I'm just
slowly deteriorating.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hope.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
My whole body is falling apart. You know, the car
got hit, my elbows fucked up. What's next? You know?
Are those things related? Probably not, but we can't rule
it out anyhow. I was in can which is how
I'm saying it, and I don't know if that's I
feel like that's how Americans say it. I don't know
if it's how everybody says it. Jenna, you speak French, right, No?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I speak Spanish, but I would say calm, but.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Larra, do you speak French?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't, and I would say can.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I felt very dumb there, of course, because I don't
speak I speak no French. I can make the sounds
if I know the word, but I don't really know
any words. By the way, I haven't been out of
the country for many, many years, obviously, and I had
to get a new passport.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I have to get a new passport too.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well. Let me tell you you can get one quickly.
Do you know what the trick is?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
No? What is it you?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Let's say you're a month away from travel. You need
a passport. Now, you need to get one. A month
away from your travel will take you seven to nine
weeks minimum to get one. Okay, But if you wait,
if you just wait till you're within fourteen days of travel,
you have booked a ticket, you have proof of that
you have to travel. There's no alternative. You stand to

(09:13):
lose a bunch of money because your ticket will be
useless because you won't be able to take your trip.
You can call a number and sometimes you get through
a number to the US Department of State or State Department,
some people refer to it, and they will maybe be
able to find you an appointment at a passport a
special kind of passport office. There are only a few

(09:33):
of them in America. And then they will maybe make
an appointment for you to go and get a passport.
They're like be here at ten o'clock. You're like, oh, okay, cool,
I have a passport an appointment to get my passport
that day. They will make you a passport. Okay, So
this cost one hundred and ninety dollars in fees, which
is fine, like whatever. Like if you're flying to another

(09:54):
country and you're going to lose all of your ticket
money or whatever, have your trip ruined. It's it's nothing.
But the ten o'clock appointment is not just for you.
The ten o'clock appointment is for everyone. Everybody got invited
to be there at ten o'clock and it is a
lot of people, and everybody needs a passport today, and

(10:19):
we're all in it together. I got into line, got
there at like nine thirty in the morning. I'm like,
I'm early. I got into a line out the door
of the passport office, stretching down a sidewalk, across a drive,
a parking lot entrance. And you know, I made lifelong
friends that day. I met people and bonded with people

(10:41):
and experienced things with those people that you know, a
lot of people will never experience, a lot of other
people will never get to get to experience. And it
was a chaotic scene. They did give me a passport eventually,
but it was a very interesting experience. You really got
an he really gives you a taste of the government
and action and saying it's a bad system. But there's

(11:03):
definitely some things that could be improved about it, Like
there are a lot of things that could be improved
about it.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
You're telling us about the Hunger Games and passport.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, it was right. It was like the Hundred Games.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I was picturing you as Clive Owen and children of
men the whole time.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
There was a very children of men vibe to a
lot of it, like you know a lot of like
people waiting in lines, hoping to make the cut for
something or whatever. So they run you through this process
and then they say come back. Now. It's interesting. Some people,
some people at the window said told people come back
here at one o'clock. Some people would like my person said,

(11:41):
you can pick it up between one and three, okay,
between one o'clock and three o'clock in the afternoon. So
I went home and then I came back. And when
I got back, things had gotten, Things had gotten a
little ugly, things had gotten. They gotten, They had gone
from okay to bad, and maybe we're traveling towards from
bad to worse. And there's a huge amount of people waiting,

(12:05):
and that the security guards there. I'm not security guards.
I guess there's some type of law enforcement. You know.
They were like yelling at people to you know, not
rush into line. And it doesn't matter because nope, You're
only going to get your passport when somebody calls your name.
And then they were telling people. They were like, I
saw somebody vaping. I don't know who thinks you can
vape in a government building. And you know, to be honest,

(12:27):
it never occurred to me you couldn't vape in a
government building. So you know, I put it away just kidding. Vaping,
I think, actually, can you even picture and me? Vaping
doesn't It doesn't compute mentally. The officer there was like,
I've never seen it this packed, I've never seen it
this crazy. I've never seen anything like this. We're just
totally overwhelmed. So we're going to take your they give

(12:48):
you a slip of paper to pick up your passport.
They're like, we're going to take your slips of paper
and we're going to take them upstairs, and then someone's
going to come down with whatever passports are ready and
are going to call people's names. And it sounded like
and I think what was the case is that they
had just created like an ad hoc system that they

(13:11):
had never done before or had rarely done, and so
it was like you have this little piece of paper
you just handed over. Then that's it. Like as far
as getting your passport, that's the only thing you can
use to pick it up. And then it goes to
upstairs into a mysterious room, and then a person comes down.
This woman comes down this uh, you know, not elderly
and she was a bit advanced in age. She comes down,

(13:32):
she's behind she's inside of a box, a plastic box
like where they check you in originally, and you know,
she starts just yelling people's names, but like there's no amplification.
She can't pronounce a lot of the names. It was like,
is this is this the end of the process, this
bureaucratic process. Is like this old woman in a box

(13:55):
is screaming a name she can't pronounce in the hopes
that the person happens to be a sitting there and
be here's it. Listen, Nothing tragic happened, but there was
just a lot of the tension in the room was palpable. Man.

(14:17):
What she called my name, It was like God himself
had come down from heaven and put me in a
nineteen twenty six Rolls Royce and driven me to the
pearly gates.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what God does.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I don't know. I don't know. I was trying to
think of what God would do if he came down
here to help, Like what's he doing.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I don't know, driving you around?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Apparently, you know, classic like Sistine Chapel. God with the beard.
He's got like a really nice like iridescent like the
color of the Rolls Royce, Like one of those classic
cars is the big swoopy wheels, and the color of
the car is like an iridescent purple. You know, it's
like you can't quite make out exactly what the color is.
And he will just take he can take you anywhere.
You know. That to me is like feels right. I

(15:05):
don't know if it's if it is right, you know,
I don't I don't think God exists, but I think
if God did exist, that's the scene that would be
the vibe, right, that's the vibe like a kind of
Rick Rubin ish situation. Maybe. But I don't think Rick
Rubin even drives. He probably just is like he has
a guy who drives. He drives. He's like a guy

(15:27):
who like never wears shoes. I think it's just like
I think he's obviously a very important person and has
done some amazing things, but his vibe is like, I
don't know. I bet he's really annoying. I bet he
smells not any Rick Ruben on the podcast, I bet he.
It's like a guy who doesn't he use deodorant. He's
like deodoran his poison. That's what that's the vibe I
get from Rick Rubin. I'm not saying he's dirty. I'm

(15:48):
just saying he rejects things like deodorant and shoes. Not
a hippie way either. I think he's an incredibly materialistic
capitalist guy. But but I think there's just he's he's like,
you know, like one of these tech VC guys. Like
there is a story in the Wall Street Journal about
how all these that the vcs and there and the
founders are all like doing drugs now. They're all like

(16:10):
micro dosing or like doing ketamine or whatever. And it's
just like it helps me, like you know, come up
with solutions to complicate problems or whatever. And it's like, no,
it doesn't. It makes you high, which is fun, and
that is it. Like I don't believe for a second
that it's like you're the next breakthrough is going to
happen because you're fucking micro dosing or whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't think people get professional breakthroughs from micro dosing,
but I do think that people have personal breakthroughs for
micro doess.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm I'm talking about the therapeutic uses of of LSD.
I'm talking about guys who are like, this helps me,
you know, figure out how to do the layoffs or whatever.
You know, Like that's you know, like I would, I
have to do it difficult? What I have to do,
A difficult calling of the staff. I like snort a
little ketamine which takes the edge off.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
The Silicon Valley guy who invents the public bus.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's what I associated, right, we No, It's like it's
like Ela Musk inventing like a kind of a way
worse subway. He's like invented a tunnel, you know, like literally,
and he was probably fucking high. And and if the
people who give him money to do things are are
also high, it's a bad It's a bad combination. It
explains a lot, though, I think like it explains a

(17:18):
lot about what's going on in Silicon Valley at the moment,
you know, it sort of explains even things like the
apple of virtual reality headset, all all that stuff like
metaverse and fucking it's just all it's such, it's such
like a fantasy. It's such a strange fantasy that everyone
out there seems to be having that it's just so
completely detached and out of touch from like meaningful reality.

(17:41):
And then I say, this is a guy who would
love to just zap himself into a virtual reality situation
and never come back. I don't know anyhow, So how
do they give on the topic of drugs.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
About smelling bad, which, which, by the way, made me
think about how my mom.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Used to say she always was sure that Larry King
smelled bad.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Larry King looks like he smells like mothballs. He looks
like he smells like he just got the suspenders out
of old like one of those old sup brown leather
suitcases with the little flippy things that open it up,
and inside of it were a whole bunch of suspenders and mothballs,
you know. But you know, rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I feel like mixed with like a bag of farts.
There's something like old.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Maybe maybe he looked dry to me, though he just
generally looked dry, you know, like, and I associate dried
dryness with the mothballs. I yes, I don't know why.
I don't know why. I guess mothballs aren't really there
for keeping things dry. I haven't smelled a mothball in
a while. Actually, people don't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I have them because we have moths, so I have
them in my.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, you have mothballs like hany ones, you know that,
like they're hangars.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Okay, but I don't want my clothes to be eaten.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So oh well, god, I mean that's not that doesn't happen.
The moths don't eat clothes. This is like an old
wives tale. That's actually is that sexis to say it's
an old person's tail.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I think it takes like a very very long time.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think it's like I was on the Santa Maria,
you know, and I had my fucking cask full of clothing,
and like the moths got in there, like to my
they got onto my tunics. Is this a real problem?
It feels like not a real problem.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Go back to Larry King and his smell.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, Larry King, No, I don't know he made didn't
smell that good. I feel bad for saying the record
looks like he stinks, But you know what I mean,
I don't know he probably does. I know, I've known
a lot of guys in the music world that have
a similar vibe. I guess, and yeah, you know, they're
just kind of like, no, you know, I reject things.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Like who do you think smells good?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
What do I think smells good?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
No? Who do you think smells good that you've never met?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh, that's an interesting question. That's an interesting question men
or women? Or do we do we care?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Like?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Is it do we want to go? Is there anything
any gender preference here?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, you did just slander two men.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Well I didn't actual see my Larry King was based
off of Jenna saying that's something.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's my opinion him smelling bad.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
But if you ask me, what do you think Larry
King smells like? I guess like more off balls, like
the answer I would give because that is, you know,
but I don't know. Maybe I'm just saying that because
he's old. Maybe that's agism.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
He had many wives, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well he had a lot of money. I think that
is very helpful. Maybe I'm just being agist, you know,
maybe he smelled great, Maybe he smelled like fucking you know,
uh jovon MOSKV. Is that do they still make that.
That's a that's a corner store cologne. Who do I
think smells good? Larsen?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't know why she?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Why?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Why he?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Of all people?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
So I don't know. I don't know. She just popped
into my head. I'm trying to think of who else
might smell good. I have a very bad sense of smell,
so I kind of don't smell much of anything. I
generally assume most people smell fine. Like I'm not walking
around going like people all people stink or I'm concerned
about people how people smell. And I feel like I've
really dug a hole here with this Rick Ruben comment.

(21:08):
But yeah, I don't really think about it. I guess
you know. My concern is more like do I smell?
As you know, I'm very self centered and focused on
my own shit, and I'm like, you know, how do
I smell today?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Like?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Am I? Okay? That's the things like you never really
know what you smell? Like, you know, you have no
idea what you actually smell like you'll never know, You'll
never know. Does that? Do you find that maddening?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
To think about, Like I'll get out of the shower,
I do my stuff or whatever. I'm thinking, Like, I
feel pretty fresh, I feel pretty clean. I feel like
I smell great. But like maybe it's too much, maybe
it's not enough. Maybe I stink for some reason I
don't even know.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And when when you're pregnant, your bo actually changes, Oh,
it is very pungent.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
It gets better or worse.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It gets way worse. That is the that's the trip.
When you smell your your bo that is now different
in the moors.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Eh, that does sound terrible. That sounds like a kind
of like a horror movie. But I mean a lot
of a lot of pregnancy is sort of like a
horror movie in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
No interesting, but they made a horror movie about it.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, no, I know that's I think more than one.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, well I would say there's one. I mean, there's
like a new one, is what I mean. I asked
Kyle the other day if Alien was based off pregnancy,
and he said.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
No, Okay, he's wrong, Okay, he's fucking wrong. Actually, let
me tell you, because I could. I have read extensively.
There's a guy named Dan O'Bannon who wrote Who's a
really weird, interesting guy who has written and made a
lot of interesting science fiction. I believe he wrote or
co wrote the original Alien story. And and he said,

(22:45):
first off, the alien, the way the alien inseminates its host,
they wanted to reverse the rape thing. They wanted to
have like essentially like like male rape was the inspirit,
like the horror of rape, but applied to like not
a woman, you know, and obviously you know, other people
can be rape. But they had this idea that it

(23:05):
was like going to be as horrific as a rape.
And then I do think that the I do think
the chest bursting part of it is meant to be
uh yeah, like a pregnancy parallel, you know. I mean,
of course, I don't see how it couldn't be. The
entire thing is centered around like mothers and like and
like birth, and uh, I don't know. I don't know

(23:26):
what he's talking about. I think he's way off on
net with that answer.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I also flucked in, by the way, and totally challenged
that Alien is based off wasps or something xenomorphia or something.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, that's wrong. That's like some idea that a child
would have about what Alien is about. But that's I
don't hear what he just said. No, it is it is, though,
because here I'm going to tell I'm going to read
to read your Dan O'Bannon production writing. I'm reading the
Wikipedia entry right now. Oh. Bannon described the sexual imagery
as overt and intentional. I'm going to put in every

(23:58):
image I can think of to make the men and
the audience cross their legs. Homosexual, oral rape, birth, the
thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole number.
That's the guy who created the story for Alien Speaking. Okay,
so I don't know about the wasp stuff. Sounds like
Dan O'Bannon had some other ideas about what it meant.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know, it's a ten on the pain.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Scal Wow, good callback, Thank you dude. It is a
ten on the pains. Guess a lot like my elbow versidas.
It's very similar actually in a lot of ways. At
any rate, I was actually talking to some of my
coworkers today about the box office situation. It's very bad

(24:43):
situation out there for blockbusters. The superhero fatigue has set in.
People don't want to see the Flash starring Ezra Miller.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That person that I thought was in.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Jail, Ezra Miller. That's his name, right, I thought.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Azra Miller was in jail this whole time until the
press start coming out.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Ezra Miller has been accused of some some very mysterious
and not good sounding stuff. And you know, it was
sort of feeling canceled ish, and then they're like, now
we're gonna but you know, we made this movie with him,
so with them, sorry, and so we got to do it.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Wasn't there kidnapping involved?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
They apparently kidnapped. I mean, this is the accusation. I
have no idea what the real story is, to be honest,
I haven't looked that much into it because it sounded
depressing and bad and I can only engage with so
much bad news at a time. But yeah, they like
kidnapped some underage I guess. I guess you can kidnap
a non underage person, although it's kind of right there

(25:42):
in the name. I feel like they should. Is there
a different word for when you when you kidnap an adult?
Is there a different word?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
This is?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Ezra Miller officially apologizes for kidnapping girl.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Hey, we've all been there.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
There's nothing alleged here.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
We've all had to issue an apology for doing a
kidnapping of a youth. I mean, who hasn't Who amongst
us hasn't issued a formal apology for doing a crime.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, but let me read this to you. Okay, please
do After receiving a felony for burglary in men oh okay,
Ezra Miller was accused of brainwashing and grooming a teenage
girl and exploiting other children.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Now, the actor is attempting to salvage the situation by
sharing an apology.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I mean, I don't know if that gets you see
all the way there, if all those accusations are are true,
I think, or all that behavior.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Publicist wrote an apology.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's sometimes saying I'm sorry it
goes a long way, you know, sometimes it can just
erase a horrendous crime. But yeah, people don't want to
see their movie. They don't want to see the Flash,
even though there's a Michael Keaton cameo where he plays Batman,
which I think is cool, like the only cool thing
these DC movies have done. Actually, I was just talking

(27:04):
to somebody about how how unbelievable the string of failures
the DC franchise. DC superhero movies have been, like just
like an unmitigated ongoing disaster, like every film is in
essence a bomb, Like I think they keep making them.
It's like I would just give up, just wait, I

(27:26):
just waited out. But luckily all the Superheroes does seems
to be coming to a close and we returned to
great filmmaking. We're gonna return to an age of daring
risk takers putting it all on the line to create
something new, some new art. Daring, daring risk takers like
Wes Anderson, who I just learned signed apparently signed the

(27:46):
Roman Plans key like support letter, and like a ton
of other people did too, like including David Lynch and
Michael Mann and all these you know.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
There's there was like a I always think about David Lynch.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's so weird, it's so odd to me. I would
just do nothing. Personally, if it were me, if somebody
was like, do you want to sign the Roman Polansky letter?
Even if I was like, I'm so pro Roman Plansky,
knowing what Roman Plansky did, I would be like, you
know what, I'm I'm actually very busy. I don't have
time to do add my stag trick to that. But
thank you, thank you, you know, like you're not gonna

(28:17):
get ostracized for not signing the letter. You know, a
very strange Michael Mann signed it. Very disappointing stuff, you know,
you know, really just kind of confusing as to why
you'd put your signature on that. I mean, if you
knew even a scoach, even a little bit of the details. Yeah,

(28:38):
like I don't know. I wouldn't sign it. Personally.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's a strong stance, controversial.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Let me tell you something about me. A lot of
people wouldn't say this, A lot of people wouldn't step up,
but I will. I won't sign the Roman Plansky letter.
You know, I draw a line in the sand. I'm
trying to think of what I would sign. I've probably

(29:06):
accidentally signed a few petitions like dumb ones, you know,
Like you know, remember there was like some the Rick
and Morty sauce at McDonald's and people that couldn't get it,
and people are having like flip out. They were flipping
out at at at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I thought you were going to say one of the
Man Show petitions.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
No, I don't even look at the Man Show. You
mean the thing with what's his name that you.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Guys, Adam Carolla. They had people signing against women's suffrage.
I remember that was one of their bits.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I didn't watch that ship. I didn't watch that ship.
I was raised.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I was a young girl who was being instilled with
the misogyny.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Misogyny and and the patriarchy, you know, belief in the
patriot I don't know, I was My parents did a
lot of things wrong, but they did a few things right,
apparently because that ship was not interesting to me at all.
But uh yeah, Like I probably signed some petition like
like joking, like to bring back the Rick and Morty,
you know, Sechuan Sauce or whatever it was it McDonald's

(30:06):
like stuff like that, speaking must speak of canceled people
who won't be led back in the country. Wow, somebody's
like impeach Trump, Like sign the petition. I'd be like, yeah,
I mean, I don't think my Sayn's is gonna do it.
I don't care how many Satan issues you get, it
doesn't matter. Nobody cares. They're not gonna They're not gonna
do it a second time. He's been impeached like twice.

(30:29):
I don't even know. Like it's crazy, it's wild. I
love I love that guy. Man. It's it's something else,
something to watch, something just incredible to watch him exists,
because it's like you see all of the failings of
our of our reality. You see all the failings of
humanity just just totally expressed within the way Donald Trump

(30:50):
lives his life. It's like he's like, oh yeah, he
was like uh, he's done all these rapes, and he's
like lied and cheated, he's had like he literally this
is a guy who literally as a business practice, would
put a cee for colored next to black families names
were trying to rent houses or apartments from him because

(31:12):
he didn't want to rent to them, and he would
have his people mark that down to say, okay, don't
rent to these people. He was he was fucking sued
and then they settled, right, Our system didn't find him
like it found him guilty, but like then there was
some kind of like settlement where he didn't have to
ever say he did it or something, and that just

(31:32):
got kind of brushed under the rug, and nobody fucking cares.
Like nobody cares like you or I couldn't do something
that racist in our daily life and like continue to
exist in a normal way. But a guy like that
just keeps going and now it's like all this stuff,
like it's like, oh yeah, he's the secret documents. Like
no president history has ever acted like this. It's so
outrageous and you just feel like nothing will happen. It's

(31:55):
like guns. It's like guns in this country. Like you're like, oh,
more children were shot at a school. Well that should
do it, right, Like, that'll do it. We're gonna band
together and make some changes here because like obviously there's
a problem, and we're just like, nah, what are you
gonna do? What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I remember after Sandy Hook, I thought, well, this is
this is it. It can't go any further than this.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Obama's up on stage crying. You're like, oh wow, the
President of the United States is like actually crying on
television like I've never seen I'd never seen that before.
I don't think in my lifetime. Maybe I maybe Bill
Clinton cried. He seemed kind of like a crier. Actually, yeah,
it's an interesting time to be alive at any rate. Well,
do you mean tell you I didn't even tell you

(32:43):
about my travels. I didn't even talk about my first off.
I was in can an incredible situation. Have you ever
been to Can beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh. I looked at the pronunciation.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's canon like eat like an American once they can,
and then French it's yeah can with a hard ket.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think it's the same. Actually, I'm not sure there's
a difference, but I appreciate the French trying to tweak
it a little bit, trying to tweak it away from
the English pronunciation at any rate. So you know, I
was there for a conference, which is the worst reason
to go to Can, in my opinion. There's a big
media and advertising conference there called can Lyons or leon.

(33:25):
I guess I don't know how they would say it.
I was there only for about three days, three and
a half something like that, and I probably spent about
an entire day in travel, all told on one end
and the other, like like a day and a half
a day each way, the solidly twelve hours, if not
more so. Think about being the most beautiful place in
the world, with the greatest sort of amenities and luxuries

(33:47):
you could imagine. But what you're doing instead of enjoying
it is meeting ad executives that you could meet with
who are from New York and live in New York,
but are there, and so you know, that part was
not fun. But there was a lot of other stuff
that was fun and at least an interesting experience. But
my travel was insane because I flew connections. So I
first I flew from from New York to Frankfurt, Germany,

(34:11):
where I bought a German shepherd beanie baby for Zelda
in Germany, which I thought was cool some reasons. That's
her favorite dog, and I don't have the heart to
tell her that that's the Nazi dog. You know, it's
like literally the Nazi dog. You know, there'll be a
time in a place when I can tell her the truth.
But she really likes German Shepherds. I think it's because

(34:33):
she's kind of a narc and a cop, Like, I mean,
she loves rules and she also like you know, kids
are early on or like basically, you know, they think
the police are pretty cool. I understand why, like, because
the police are presented as being really a great thing,
you know, like, oh no, they protect us and they
help us, and they you know though, if you're lost,
they'll tell you where to go. And like admittedly there

(34:53):
are some uses, right like to the police. I'm not
saying they're like again, I don't want to get into
a thing, I mean a B like yeah, I'm all,
you know, let's get let's get rid of them. But
I can understand how child would be like, that's a
cool idea. So she loves like she likes like rules
and stuff, and maybe the German shepherd things like because
it's a cop dog. I don't really know.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
They're incredibly smart. By the way, my dog is part
German Shepherd.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
So I take offense this okay, interesting. I would imagine
there are a lot of Jews that would not own
a German Shepherd, right, just.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Like Jews won't have a Mercedes.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Sure, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Our generation probably not, but like the previous generations definitely had.
I get it. I mean it's like, you know, at
any rate, I had a five hour, five hour layover
in Frankfurt Frankfort, and uh, I don't even know what
I did. I was in a fugue state. I took
a Xanax on the plane. As we took off from
a JFK, I had a couple of drinks, and for

(35:49):
the first time ever in my life ever, I fell asleep.
And then I woke up and they're like, we're landing
in an hour and a half. And it was like,
that's never happened to me on a plane ever. It
was amazing, Like, I see now how other people can
travel and what a fucking dream. Anyhow, so a lot

(36:10):
of travel, you know, did a lot of duty free
shopping in the five during the five hour layover. Yeah,
and then and then I was there for like three
three days. On the fourth day I went to the airport.
Then I flew to Zurich. And what's amazing about the
Zerk airport, and frankly about any airport, is first off,
it's like nine in the morning when I get there. Now,
the Zurich airport, because it's in Switzerland, there are watch

(36:34):
stores there, the greatest watch brands in the world, like
Rolex and Omega or is the British call it Omiga,
which is a crime and they should be put in
prison for it, and so all these like incredible schwat
they're open at nine in the morning, right, They're like, oh,
if I want to buy like a twenty five thousand
dollars Rolex at nine am, that's a done deal. But

(36:54):
there's a swat of course, there's a Swatch store, and
the Swatch store had I don't know if you guys
know about this thing called a moon Swatch. Do you
know the Moon's watches? No, nobody knows what a Moon's watches? Right,
So Swatch the biggest thing, the biggest story in watches
of the past, like I don't know, twenty fucking years
or maybe like since the Apple since the introduction of

(37:16):
the Apple Watch, the biggest story in watches has been
this thing called the moon Swatch, which is a collaboration
between Swatch, the affordable watchmaker, and Omega and they what
they did was Swatch made like a plastic version of
this very famous and relatively expensive Omega watch called a

(37:37):
Moon's referred to as a Moonwatch. A version of it
was taken by the astronauts. A Speedmaster is the family
name of it. And this one's called the Moonwatch. It
was taken by like some of the astronauts on like
many emissions, like the Apollo missions and stuff. And there
was actually a really cool one that has like Snoopy
on it, because like a Snoop there's like a Snoopy
astronaut character that was used for some like NASA stuff
and anyway, at any rate, it's a cool It's a

(37:59):
fucking cool, real like expensive watch. And then Swatch made
a version of it based on every planet in our
solar system and the Sun and moon. That is, like
they're different color ways and it looks it is exactly
in terms of its size, shape, functionality, is identical to
obviously different internals, identical to the Omega Watch, but it

(38:20):
is made out of like plastic, like Swatch makes all
their watches out of or some kind of like bio
material or whatever, and they're all in these really crazy colorways.
There's like a pink one, there's like a green one,
there's a yellow one. They're all for like the different
planets and stuff. At any rate, you can't buy them.
People were like there were literally like riots outside of
Swatch stores because they made them available in like this
limited edition fashion and like you had to physically go

(38:43):
to a store to get one, and there was no
other way to get one. So like people sell them
like for way more than they're worth on eBay and
you can buy them on different watch sites at any rate.
I kind of, you know, vaguely, was like, oh, like
if I could get one, I would maybe get one,
just because it's so novel. And you know, I'm fucking
looking through the Zurich airport at nine in the morning
and they just have them there. They're just sitting out.

(39:04):
I'm like, you don't actually have these for sale, right,
And the guy's like, yeah, I have all but two.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's like kind of an amazing strange you know whatever,
it's fucking who cares? Is capitalism work? You know? I
don't need one, certainly, I have plenty of watches. It
was just an interesting way to like start that trip,
you know. So I had a bunch of gifts that
I brought back for Zelda and Laura, and I bought
myself a moon a moon swatch, because because why not,

(39:31):
Because if you can't get them anywhere else, I might
as well pick one up. You know. It's interesting though,
I haven't taken that out of the box yet because
I don't wear a regular watch because I have an
Apple Watch, and that may change in the future. That's
a story for another podcast. I think that's a story
for another day. But uh oh, I was gonna say,
I didn't say this. It's the last thing I'll say.

(39:52):
And maybe I've talked about it before. But I think
airports are so fucking cool and interesting because I definitely
have talked about this before. You know, there's this theory,
this thing I believe, which was created by a writer
named Hakeembe called the temporary autonomous zone. The concept is
like a place that for a period of time or

(40:13):
in a specific location, is like a community that forms
with its own rules, its own laws, its own kind
of like way of existing, and then it can like dissipate.
And I think like airports are like a great example
of a temporary autonomous zone, which is that, in my opinion,
like kind of an otherworldly like if you think about
what it is, it's a very otherworldly idea. Like in

(40:33):
an airport. An airport has its own rules, its own laws.
The people there, none of them are really besides people
that work there. All the people moving through it are
not really supposed to be there. They're going somewhere else.
And like there are things that are in a temporal sense,
are not normal, like a Rolex store I typically isn't
open at nine in the morning. I'm like, oh, I'm

(40:54):
carrying these bags. I'm taking a plane to New York.
But also like if I just want to stop and
get buy a rolex like that can have happen, or
like a huge bottle of alcohol. The it's all these
like weird things that happen there, you know, and then
there's a totally different set of rules about like what
you can do, like where you can be Like to
see someone sleeping on the floor. Normally you'd be like,
oh my god, like this is what's happened to this person,

(41:14):
or like oh, they're you know, they're homeless. But you know,
in an airport, people are just waiting. It's just interesting
and there's all these weird like things in airports that
would never exist anywhere else. Like in Frankfurt there was
like an indoor play area for children that was like
a miniature Luftanza plane with like a it had like
an emergency slide, but it was like a slide for children.

(41:35):
There's just you know, there's in the middle of an
indoor space just sliding down this tiny liftans of emergency
you know, exit or whatever. It's just it's a strange thing,
strange place. It's kind of fun though in a way.
I mean, I might be am I the only person
who likes airports. Maybe I can't be the only person.
But I don't like traveling. I hate traveling. I like airports,

(41:56):
weird food, lots of different food choices. It's like a
it's like a mall, but like where there's way more
danger of like you being arrested for something, like way
higher levels of fear about being detained in a strange room. Yeah,
Disneyland with the death penalty. As William Gibson famously wrote

(42:16):
for one of the early issues of Wired about Singapore,
did a big did a big expos about Singapore and
how it was like this like dream land of a
place where that you know, you would be executed for
a spitting gum on the sidewalk or whatever. I don't
know if they still do that, but big, good topic
for a show. Well, that is our show for this week,

(42:44):
if you can believe it. It's all come to a close.
The journey that we've been taking together is ending, and
yet a new journey begins next week because we're gonna
have another show, which I think is great. I think
I'm excited about it, and I'm feeling refreshed and rejuvenated
after my travels, and frankly, after this conversation, I want

(43:06):
to thank the listener for allowing me to bear my
soul and share my thoughts. I really do deeply appreciate
that you've spent this time with me. Man, this is
a real finality to this sign office seems pretty dark,
pretty heavy shit, but it's not really. I'm just tired,
just tired from traveling. Anyhow. We'll be back next week

(43:28):
with more what future, and as always, I wish you
and your family the very best.
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