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Speaker 1 (00:08):
If you want to go on a journey. If you're skeptical,
don't worry not get a preach gonn to keep it
clean and talk to me and recaud where faith needs,
fos of nature and get in touch with your creator
with a bacon, love and jew.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
She even speaks Hebrew.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What's that, gotzato?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's that? This will sabosation?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You should talking transformation?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What's that gonzatu?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's leanne here and what you're about to hear are
real stories from real women who not only face their
deepest struggles with food in their bodies, but also chose
to invite God into their journey of healing. These women
have battled their demons in race their faith and found
freedom on the other side. These are the raw, unfiltered
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journeys of women just like you, once trapped in mental prisons,
caught in the endless cycle of food obsession, and weighed
down by feelings of failure and shame. And I'm sharing
these with you today because I want you to know
that no matter how stuck or out of control you
feel right now, there is a way out, especially when
you welcome God into the process. So if you're feeling
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broken or lost or like you're the only one who
struggles with this.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You are not.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You're not alone, and you are definitely not beyond hope
or healing. These stories are living proof that true transformation
is possible when you invite God to be part of
your healing. I hope they inspire you to see what's
possible for yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So let's dive on in.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
All right, Well, we are live and hello, Hello, and
I'm here with my amazing client, karl who has been
so gracious to share her journey, her story, her truth.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You're going to hear from her directly.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
But you know, really, one of the reasons I'm so excited,
among other things, for Karly to share her journey, is
because she is literally the youngest person who has ever
come through the Stressless Seeding program, And so every person
that comes through the program has their own story of
like am.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I too old? Am I to this? Am I too
far gone? And and we're going to.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Talk about how age played a factor.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In your journey as well. But just you know, one
of the reasons.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
That when we talked about even just sharing your story,
like you were just like, hey, I can show other
twenty somethings that you don't have to live like this,
and you can you know kind of you know, heal.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This before you bring it forward into your life.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Then you know, that was one of the big motivations
for you being here today.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So thank you in advance. Hello, first of all, say
hi to listening.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean what I'd love to do is just kind of,
you know, dive right in and just kind of share
a little bit about you really, you know, first off,
just kind of talked to us a little bit about,
you know, where were you just a few months ago
before you started this program. What was your life, like,
what was your relationship with food, like, what was your
relationship with your body? Like, like where were you in
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your journey before we met.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, so before starting this program, I was twenty three,
just navigating the first year out of college, which is
just a crazy weird transition time in general of path.
The people your age are partying every weekend still, and
people are getting married and everyone's just kind of trying
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to figure out like what their next steps are. And
so I just was really in that transition phase, but
kind of brought to light the problems I was having
with food that I had been in denial about for
a long time. I had known I had an emotional
reliance and just not healthy relationship with food, not healthy
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relationship with my body. But it kind of brought to
light going through like a stressful transition period, how big
of a problem it was, and that I could no
longer deny it anymore. And so I just was in
a cycle of binging and restricting with food, and food
just took up so much of my mental energy. I
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think one of the things I told you when we
first had our first call was that one of the
things that bothers me is food is taking up so
much of my headspace that I'm not being present with
the people I want to be present with, and that
also really bothered me. I would be at a cookout
or you know, going to eat with friends, and prior
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to even going, I would be stressed about checking the
menu and what foods I had deemed good and bad
and what I could eat and couldn't eat. And it
was just this like such a thing that like just
took up so much headspace, but like no one around
me even really knew that I was thinking about it,
and maybe people didn't even know that I wasn't being present,
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but I knew that I wasn't being as present as
I wanted and like could be and should be to
the people I care about the most. And then that
was just the cycle of shame and guilt and binging
and restricting, and I felt guilt about not being the
best friend or daughter sister that I could be. And
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then also just complete self rejection and negative self talk
about my body. And I wasn't even necessarily like quote
unquote overweight, but just so judgmental of everything about my body,
constant comparison to other people, what I see on Instagram,
just complete like judgment of my body and letting that
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hold me back and not wearing clothes I wanted to
wear and doing the things I wanted to do because
I was so judgmental in my body, I would project
that judgment on other people that they couldn't that they
when I would meet someone new in my head, all
they were looking at were the flaws that I saw
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in my body. I just felt stuck.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You bring up a couple of things that I mean,
people that are listening to this right now can absolutely
resonate with this idea that like food and dieting and restriction,
whether it was like what you were eating and what
you weren't eating, because you were on both ends of
the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know, it's almost like this full time job.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It's like always with us, you know, Like and then
I know you were in school and working and just
being a college student at the time, you know, and
it's just like it's always part of your life.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And I think we can all resonate with that. But
something else that you said is and this is what
I want to be clear on for anyone listening.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like this problem is not like we've talked about before.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's not a food problem. It's not a weight problem
you even said. It's not even like even not being overweight,
you know what I mean. It's a feeling when we
feel that way about ourselves. It had no, it's not logical.
It doesn't matter what our body looks like. It is
how we perceive ourselves. And I mean it doesn't discriminate
like whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Size you wear, whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know, weight you weigh, this problem doesn't discriminate against
or for.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So it's you're driving home some really important points and
I think, really that was the thing. It's like when
you have this struggle and just like you were saying,
nobody knew, like it was your deepest health secret, and
you put on this happy face you know, and nobody knew,
but you knew it was everywhere that you went twenty
four hours a day.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, I woke up thinking about food. I woke I
went to bed thinking about food. It just there was
so much just chatter and clutter about like I can
standard myself a healthy person. I strive to be healthy
and eat healthy and thought I had a healthy relationship
with working out and worked out six days a week,
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and there's just so much out there of like eat this,
don't eat that, like one person size this is good,
but other person size.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
This is bad.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And so it was just like I was making an
effort to like try to be healthy, but there was
just so much out there where I just overanalyzed everything
I did and eight And it wasn't until this programer
was like, Okay, let's stop all of the outside chatter
and kind of like force me to tap into like
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my inner wisdom and my body of like what makes
me feel good? How do yeah forget what everyone else says,
but really like listen to myself of letting my body
guide the decisions of what I.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Eat, right, Yeah, and your thoughts, like's totally shifting your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's so interesting because you know.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Every woman that I talked to that is in a
position that you were just a few months ago, they
feel like, man, am I am I lazy? And my
weak willed and myself sabotager? And it's like, no, like
ninety nine point nine percent of the time, these are
the hardest working women that they've ever like, You're the hardest.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It wasn't for lack of commitment or lack of trying.
There was, you were trying all the things. It was
just again just like everybody else following this broken model
and there it's such a loud chatter of a model,
Like everywhere you go, everywhere you scroll, it's like try this,
don't do that, the good, the bad, the right, the wrong,
the should the shouldn't, and it just gets so confusing
and overwhelming. And that's you know, again where you were
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as well.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, and it just felt like, Okay, I'm like succeeding
in all these other areas of my life, Like why
is this the one thing that I can't like figure
out and that I think that's where a lot of
the shame came from, and me not wanting to open
up to other people about it. And I don't think
I realized how many people struggle with the same things
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because it seems like everyone else doesn't and social media
and Instagram, and this is something we talked about a lot.
It just was the person and again my own thoughts
about other people and how things appeared to.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Be absolutely and as we're learning, appearances can be very deceiving.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's like, you know, you can put on this happy face,
but like, what is it really? So?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
How has your life changed as a result of enrolling
in the Program's What's Different?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
How has your life changed as a result of enrolling
in the program?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
What's Different?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I mean everything, And it all comes back to the thoughts.
And I have a whole new way and system of
thinking about myself, about my body, about food, just about
life in general. And it just his freed. I feel
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like I have just all of this mental energy to
do other things I want to do that I spent
thinking about food and analyzing food and analyzing my body.
All all those that time I spent thinking about those things.
I now get to harness and direct and like a
lot weights and it just feels so good. I feel
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like I've lost twenty pounds, you know, of just mental.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Weight, yeah, the weight of the weight.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's like what you were saying before, of all this
time that you were spending it was like a full
time job.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's like you get your life back, you get your.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Time back, You get to be present in those conversations
and in those relationships. You know, so as as it
is for all of us, it's ever evolving, but like
what is your relationship with food?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Like what is your relationship with yourself?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Like, like what is your yeah, just relationship with all
of your your thoughts and your mindset, your emotions.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
How is how is that shifted?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's transformed? And just my first thoughts always are checking
in with myself and what I want and how I
want to feel, and those two questions guide everything. And
it comes to my relationship with exercise. You know. Before
starting this program, it was like I did the super
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high intensity workouts six days a week that I felt
like I had to do to be quote unquote healthy,
and it was something I had to like check off
my to do list, and I was like getting praise
for it and giving myself praise for it, but it
wasn't really a healthy relationship. I was rejecting my body
on days where it needed rest to just check off
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the check mark of doing this super high intensity workout
and the belief that a workout had to be super
high intensity to be a quote unquote you know, good
workout or good for you. And so just my relationship
with and I don't even like to say exercise anymore,
just movement has like changed, and it's so cool because
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that I still love to do those type of workouts,
and there's the days where my body is like you
need to go just hard in the gin today. You
need to go, you need to not be able to breathe,
you know. But there's other days where it's like I'm
going to go for a walk and stretch today and
like that feels so good, and that is movement that
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my goal is just to move when whatever way that
feels good to my body. So it's just been so
cool to tap into like just listening to what my
body wants and being okay with whatever that is for
the day. And same thing with food, of just it's
okay that there's some days I'm more hungry than others.
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It's okay, Like to listen to your body and what
I mean, had to have the goal to want to
nourish yourself, but also to listen to your body and
when I'm hungry to eat and not. You know, in
the past, I felt like I could only eat like
a certain window and you know all those types of things.
Had complete carb phobia. Like I said before, just stressed
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about the social aspect of eating. And so it's just
so cool to like get invited to go out to
eat with a friend and not feel like I have
to dictate where we go eat because I can only
eat at certain places to get certain things. Like I
can order pizza and like have the pizza and be
totally fine with it. But it also not turned into
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a binge because I'm allowing myself to have the quote
unquote what I had deemed a bad food and I
can have two three slices of pizza and then I'm
good and really not coming from a place of lack
and coming from a place of abundance around food was
the thing that changed it all. If I'm allowed to
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have this I'm going to have as many bites as
I need, and that's okay, because if I want it
again tomorrow, I'll eat it again tomorrow. I we'll again,
just have a few bites instead of, oh this is
a long time, I'm allowing myself to have the food
I'm not supposed to eat, So I'm going to eat
every food i'm not so see, And that was really
the behind the scenes that no one else got to see.
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If I would go to the restaurant with the friend
and eat the salad and everyone's like, oh, Carly, you're
so healthy, like and like praising me for my eating habits,
and that the shame was the well, you don't see
what happens when I'm alone or behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, so many powerful distinctions, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
The first thing that you mentioned was this idea of so.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Many people have this like very punishment driven relationship with exercise,
and it's a have to need to supposed to force
persuade yourself, but also like a very harder foster mare.
And you know, even just the word exercise has a
lot of connotations associated with it that people think of
all of those things I just mentioned and I love
that you were just like, yeah, I don't even call
it exercise anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's just movement.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And sometimes that means like getting my butt kicked and
sweating my you know, sweating out all all the things,
you know, and sometimes that means moving and stretching. But
it's based on my version of what I need that day,
you know. And I think another distinction that you brought up.
And I don't know how much you've been exposed to this,
but a lot of people that I talk to get
exposed to the whole like intuitive eating thing and just
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listen to your body, and it's always like, well, how
do I do that? My intuition is broken, so to speak,
Like my gauge is broken. I don't know what it
even means like, And that's where it's like, there's no.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
More rules, it's the tools.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's like, here's how to actually bridge that gap. Like
listening to your body and connecting to your body is
really great in theory, but like if you don't, if
you're not ever taught how to do it, it's like,
how do I actually do that? And that's really what
you're talking about, is like you brought that conceptual thing
to life. And now you have it and just like
I share, you know, you're on the calls. I'm like,
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I can't tell you what that is for you, but
I can give you the framework and ask you the
questions to help you figure out what that is for you,
because that's your unique recipe, like your new association with exercise,
your new association with food.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm just sitting over here, you see me, just smiling.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I'm just so excited for you because, just like you,
most of the women that I talk to there, you know,
it's always like the conversation that you're.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Having right now.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, when we first met, it's every woman I
talked to is like, what if I'm the one person?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
This doesn't work for Like, I feel so far gone.
It's all I've ever known, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So how does it feel to even just share what
you're sharing right now?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Like what would you have said to yourself a few
months ago? I mean, is it? Does it even feel real?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah? I wouldn't have believed I would have been sitting
here a few months ago. I was hopeful, but like again,
it is that belief and like insecurity that I might
be the one person like that this doesn't work for
and so it's cool to kind of be on the
other side and just see how quick I think that
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also has part of my daw is like is it
really gonna happen in like a few months, you know,
like is that really possible? Because I've been living the
same way for so long, you think, oh, is it
in just a few months that could be completely different.
And so it's really cool to be the person on
the other side and to be having these conversations at
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the age that I am, and that I get to
have this for the rest of my life. You know,
I think I knew when we talked, and the first
time we talked, it just felt like you were kindred spirits,
like I had just like known you, and I told you, like,
I don't want to live like this forever, and I
don't when I have children one day, I don't want to,
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you know, morph their beliefs around food and their body
in a negative way because I have those beliefs about myself.
And so I'm just proud of myself that I went
through all of this and invested in this and in
myself now and I'm alreadist seeing the fruits of that.
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But I know it's only going to be greater as
I move forward.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And that's what I say to everybody.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm like, listen, like this is not a magic pill,
Like you are going to work your butt off. But
the reason it's so powerful is because we do it
so intensively. Rather than like spreading it out over like
an hour a week for years. It's like, let's just
hit this up in twelve weeks and like hit the
nail on the head. But you know, one of the
things that you and I also had a conversation about,
and I'll just be the first submit like you and
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I talked about this and it came up on the
call last week, is like you shifted my beliefs. I
used to have a belief that you needed to be
a certain well, you definitely need to be like a
certain maturity level because a lot of people, the truth
is a lot of women your age aren't necessarily ready
to have these conversations.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Like there's a lot and I'm generalizing, and again I'll be.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
The first to admit, like you are the first person
that shifted my beliefs.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
But like you know, there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Of women I talk to they want to get in
their skinny jeans fast. They want to lose a bunch
of weight really quickly. And that's obviously not the conversation
that we're having, right, But there's also a lot of
women that want to, like you know, talk about the
problem and psychoanalyze it to death and spend years in
therapy to not fix it or worse like stay stuck
as a victim to why.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They'll never fix it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And obviously, you know, we talk about that a lot,
like being a victim to our own story, like that
is a is a non negotiable too.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I can't help people that are stuck in their victim story.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And you and I had a conversation about your age,
you know, and you were the first person that I
was like, wow, you know what, this is not an
age thing. This is not a demographic. It's a psychographic.
It's a willingness and it's a conversation. And it came
from your end too, because you asked about the age
of people I work with. I was like, yeah, normally
it's you know, thirties, forties, fifty sixties. And you had
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fears too, like oh, is it going to be a disconnect?
And we were talking about this the other day, like
it actually made it that much better.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Can you just speak to that? So if there's anybody
who's listening that is, you know, in your age bracket.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And now we have somebody in the program that you
just met that's even younger, she's twenty and cause again
my beliefs have been shifted, and now I know it's
a psychographic not a demographic, and a willing and an
eagerness to solve this. Well, first of all, i'd love
to hear what were your thoughts about your age and
how it related to this, and what would you say
to anybody that's your age about healing this Now.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I think that when you told me, because I had
no idea of the age is the people you worked with,
I honestly assumed that there was people my age and
so I was a little surprised when you told me
that there wasn't. And that also kind of sparked a
little insecurity in my mind of especially just joining the
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group of like, am I going to relate to these
other women and are they going to relate to me?
Or just be like, oh this little kind of like
girl that it's like here. But it was so cool
to see how much we related like there was no
one that I did not relate with, and I think
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it just like fueled me even more because I saw
so much of myself and these other women in It
gave me more drive to kind of focus in now
because I just saw myself thirty years down the road.
I wish more people my age were ready for this conversation,
and I think there probably are a lot of people
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that are ready, they just haven't been exposed to this
type of conversation and the beliefs. It starts with the beliefs.
Every weight loss program, diet hack, whatever, all virtually is
the exact same thing, because they none of them go
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deeper than that. And I just would love more people
my age to even be exposed that this is a
conversation that you can be having and it's never too
or early to have the conversation, and that it's a
conversation that is literally will change the trajectory of your life.
And it's one of the things we've talked about of
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the longevity, and we're thinking in the long term and
not the short term anymore. It's not the zero to
one hundred instant self gratification, you know, the world that
I think especially people my age, are very accustomed to
just with like social media. And that's one of the things.
I did a total social media break during this program
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and is the best thing I ever did, because I
don't know, which is scary to kind of think about,
but since I've had Instagram, I don't know if there's
been a day I haven't been on Instagram. And so
it's just without even realizing it, and it's so subconscious,
but it's just because it's, you know, kind of the
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age of my generation that you just put so much
stock and likes and you know, all of those types
of things. And so one of the biggest things for
me was shifting from thinking about all those short term
things and the instant addification to having conversations about longevity.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you said it best. It all starts
with your beliefs.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And I just want to thank you for shifting my
beliefs about that because you're right. And I think back
to myself when I was twenty three, and gosh, I
wish somebody had had these kinds of conversations with me,
you know, And I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
There are gals your age now we know it to
be true. It's like the first person that broke the
four minute mile.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Back in you know how, whatever year that was, and
then it got broken again and again it's like, you're right,
there's a need for this, and the women that are
ready are ready, and it is it's like that prevention
rather than the cure, you know, or I mean it's both,
you know, but it is. And you saw when you
got welcomed into the program, everyone was like, Carly, we
wish we had learned this when we were at that age.
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It would have saved us decades of suffering and struggling.
And you know, I'm just really grateful to you. And also,
you know, back to what you were saying about it
all starts with the beliefs. You know, I think a
lot of women not I think I know a lot
of women and I was one of them, think that
you have to go down this deep, dark rabbit hole
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of your past to go heal.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Something that's been with you for a long time.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I think that, you know, again, just like you,
most of the people I work with, like, we've done
that road. We've psychoanalyzed our past to death, and all
we've done is gotten really clear on what didn't work
and really clear on why we're sad and angry or
all the things grieving, but not given these like present
day tools to actually deal with it in the right now.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And so, you know, without.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Going into too much detail about it, that happened with us,
Like I think it was maybe like the second or
third week. You came to me, reach out to me
on the help desk and you were like, Leanne, I
don't know if this is relevant, but this is coming
up for me right now and I really want to
handle it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
What do you think? And I messaged you back right away.
I was like, Uh, this is so relevant, this is
this is like everything.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And I even said to you right then and there,
I was like, Harley, do not buy into the lie
that you have to spend like decades digging this up,
going back in the past.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
All that is a very right now way to address this.
And you were so coachable and like.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Literally came back to me a day later You're like,
I did everything, and here's what it did and here's.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
The shifts that's happening. So without going into too much
detail about it, like just kind.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Of share what your experience was of like cleaning up
the past, so to speak. But like very quickly and
the healing that has happened because of that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
So my mom passed away when pretty unexpectedly when I
was fourteen, and I had gone gone to therapy for
a while for that, which has helped me in its
own ways, but never in relation. And I don't even
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think I had put together that that had anything to
do with my relationship with food. And so that was
really just I just kept thinking about my mom and
I just kept a new layer of grief of like,
you know, the onion was kind of like shetting and
coming up. And what I realized is that I had
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to forgive myself for my emotional dependence and reliance on
food that developed when my mother passed away. I didn't
even put two and two together that that really was
the root of all of the struggles I've had for
so long. And when I realized that, I think, I
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told you, like, I am just giving my fourteen year
old self the biggest hug and so much forgiveness right now.
And how I mean, I think, especially when you're fourteen,
like and you're a teenager, you always think you're older
than you are. You want to be older. I don't
think until now I am getting older that I realized
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how young I was when that happened, and the compassion
for myself of I as a fourteen year old girl
who lost the most important person in my life. And
I mean, I didn't miss a day of school. I
just it was just business as usual. You know. I
didn't really take time or face it. I didn't know
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what to do, so it just I didn't face it.
It just was business as usual. And my coping during
that time started to lean towards food. And now that
I think about it, it's so clear to me of
just I mean, to be honest, I would go home
from school and it was all I could do to
get through the day of school, and I just wanted
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the world to go away. So I would just eat
to the point where we all know the feeling when
you're full, but really all your body is going to
do is sleep, And so I started doing that just
so I could fall asleep and just have that reprieve,
like for a moment. And so now it makes so
much sense looking back, and there's no shame about it anymore,
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which is just like the best feeling of like I
did what I could do. Is a ten year old
girl to get through and cope with the situation, and
it makes so much sense just the origin of all
of this, and so it was like, Okay, now I
can move forward, like I had to forgive myself for that,
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and everyone's story is obviously different, but I think everyone
in their own way can find forgiveness for themselves and
just let go of the shame to then. And it
was yeah, like you said, it wasn't I had to
psychoanalyze it. It was like, oh, I realized it, Like
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now I have the tools to move forward and it
doesn't have to be this weight anymore and this thing
and it just it helped me find so much forgiveness
for myself but also for my family that I didn't
even know that I needed and how I had maybe
put unrealistic expectations on them of different roles when my
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mom passed away. And so it's been really cool to
also see those relationships get better just through me forgiving myself.
And so that was, yeah, the game changer for me.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Thank you so much for sharing that with all of
us and just letting us into your world and really
just to kind of mirror back what you shared from
my own perspective. Like, yeah, we spent probably like ten
percent of our time and energy on the problem or
the origin story as you put it, and also just
like figuring out like, oh, that's why that happened and
understanding the why behind the what, and the rest of
the ninety percent was focused on like the tools that
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you said that you now have access to that you
can watch Rinson repeat, we used them on this specifically,
but like to.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Actually bring you into the right.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now and have right now conversations with yourself instead of
a lot of modalities and therapy processes. And this isn't
knocking therapy, but oftentimes we do get caught up in
the regression of going back and really focus on the
past and the origin story, and it's like that is
really helpful to a point until it's actually just really
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unhelpful and it locks us back in our past.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And that was kind of what was happening.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Bringing our past into our future, especially when it gets
fired and wired within a comforting mechanism around food and
then our inner perfectionist that thinks that we need to
be a certain way or look a certain way, and
then the control side of it comes in.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So it was just this.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Kind of like mashing of the of the goal, so
to speak.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But you didn't even know it because it was unconscious.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Your brain was doing it without you and you didn't
have the tools. And then as soon as we just
addressed it. I remember there was a span of like
a week where we got on the phone, we talked
it through. I had you go do some stuff, and
then you came back to me, and it was like breakthrough, breakthrough, breakthrough, breakthrough. Oh,
this happened, this happened, this happened. And then the food stuff.
I mean, we had to put in the work, but
it was just or I say, you had to put
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in the work, you know, but like it was so
simple after that simple, not easy, you know what I mean.
Still had to really, you know, go through the process
of learning the tools and figuring out how they integrated
with you and putting together your recipe. But all of
that stuff that was underground, that was just tugging at you,
that was subconsciously being like, no, Carly, don't heal this.
We need you, We need this comfort, which is a
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lot of fears that a lot of women have. It's like,
you know, they're not necessarily ready to give up their
comfort because it's all they've ever known. But when you
know to actually give yourself what you need and heal
those places, your body isn't needing and your brain, i
should say, isn't needing all those comforting mechanisms anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And that's exactly what happened for you. And it just
happened so fast.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Like you said, you know, a decade ago, you've been
trying to process, you know, therapy and different modalities. It's
not like lack of a commitment, but you just needed
these tools right now.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
So thanks for sharing sharing that with us.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Why do you think that this program was a couple
of things, like what was different about this than other
things that you've done? And why was this more successful
than what you've done in the past.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I think the main thing that's different is also why
it was successful is it's a more holistic program and
view of your complete self. It's not just physical and
it's not just about food, and it starts with a
holistic inventory kind of yourself and your mental, physical, emotional,
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social like state and focuses on healing all of those
things first and repairing the relationship with yourself and your
self worth and the stories you tell yourself, the self talk,
all of those things. It starts there. It's not like,
oh yeah, let me fit into the stress for this
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event coming up, or let me have this body for
the instant, and like, it starts deeper, and you have
to go deeper to really heal it and to really
start there. And then, like you said that the food
stuff was simple, Yeah, it still took work on my end,
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but it was so simple. It did not take a
lot of mental energy. It just shifted. And so it
really was going deeper and taking complete ownership and acceptance
of where I was and how I was also contributing
to that and keeping myself there. And you know, I
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wasn't going to move forward continually telling myself like Carl,
You're not good enough, Carli, your body isn't worthy, like
you're not worthy of it. You know, all of the
hanging on every mistake, psychoanalyzing everything I said, replaying conversations
in my head, like all of those things. Like I
was never going to be able to move forward or
heal it until I took a big look in the
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mirror at those things and was able to own it
and shift it. And then once that was shifted, and
like I said, it was the holistic like view of
just me as a person. Then the food and the
physical stuff just came.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And I really want to reiterate that for anyone who's
listening and who needs to hear this, Like, ladies, you
heard her say at the beginning, like one.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Of the first questions I asked is where were you?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
And it was like food was the epicenter of her life,
her body was the epicenter of her life.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
What she should eat, shouldn't eat, what her body looks like, comparisonitis,
all of that.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And then once she did the foundational work, which people
tend to skip right, and don't get me wrong, you
need a better system of thinking around food because the
diet mentality is a poisonous, insidious, it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Disordered way of thinking, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But once you do that, the rest is simple and
it just like it really just falls into place. And
everybody that joins this program is really like in kind
of a rush to get to the food stuff. And
I'm like, I promise you it is so worth doing
this other stuff because this is the reason that you're
running for food, this is the reason that you're gripping
to the chains of control. And restriction and dieting, and like,
once you get this sorted and healed, it's just like
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everything falls into place. So I love that it is
kind of just this full circle journey.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I mean it's cool because it opened up other ways
and mechanisms that I was numbing or coping that weren't
just food. I mean, food was a big one for me,
but it also opened up other ways that I was numbing,
and social media being one of those. Netflix, Like I
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just became so aware of ways that I was coping
that I didn't know I was even using and so
and all those things are great and have you know,
can be used as a tool or a weapon, and
there I had to be I'm real clear on when
I was using them as a weapon against myself. And
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going through the first few weeks and kind of doing
the deeper stuff, the food stuff and all the different
ways of numbing had already started to shift before we
even started having conversations about food.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
What was it that made you know that it was
worth it to really invest in healing this, like rather
than going down the diet approach or you know, listening
to more podcasts or investing in weight loss, Like what
was it that you knew, like, why was it worth
it for you to really invest this one time to
just get this lifelong, you know, solution rather than go
down the short term band aid approach any longer.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I just so connected with what you had to say
when we spoke, and I had never I mean, kind
of like I said earlier, I think more women like
would be open to this conversation if they were exposed
to it. And I I think the first time, like
listening to your webinar and then talking to you on
the phone, I connected so much with what you had
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to say in your philosophy that I just knew it
was worth the leap of faith. And I just felt
like God put me in contact with you, and I
just knew it was what I was supposed to be doing,
and knew we were connected for a reason. And I
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think it just really clicked for me that when you
said it's not about the food, we have to go deeper.
I had never thought about it like that, and that
is just what clicked for me. And I was like, Okay,
I I and I from the first conversations we had,
I've been telling you I don't want to load this way,
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you know, forever. I want to do what I can
to fix it. I don't, you know, want this to
carry into my future relationships and hopefully when I'm a
mom and all of those things. So I knew I
had wanted to fix it now and I've been trying.
I just didn't know how until I heard you speaking
about it, and I was like, oh, like it was
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just such a light bulb. But like, yeah, of course,
Like it's not just about the food and the working
out and all of those things like it. There is
a deeper component to it. And it was a few
months ago that we were having those conversations, and so
it is so worth a few months of hard work
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to be on the other side. And you know, the
work continues, but I am just in such a different
and better place and just showing up for myself in
ways I've always wanted but wasn't able to before.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Absolutely, And it's like one of those questions where it's like, yeah,
well she's just out of the program, like it's easy now.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
But like what you've learned, I mean, can you see
now why?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I say, like it's a language that the more you
practice it, the easier it gets, the better you get
at it and it just becomes who you are more
and more, so you don't have to practice it as
much as intensively, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Like, yeah, there anything that is that has like upheaved
your life.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Or that you can't like it's one of those things
that like this isn't something you could practice forever. Can
you see how this is just like your forever way
of thinking?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And and it will get easier.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, it's crazy how simple, but like you make it
and then it really is and it's just like the
small daily things and just ways of thinking and approach
the change everything and it's just yeah, it's nothing crazy,
like it just is it is who I am now.
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I know I'm like shared this with you that I
was feeling such a change in myself, and you know,
not many people knew I was doing this program because
I really wanted it to be something I did for myself.
And I think it was about halfway through the program
I saw one of my best friends that I hadn't
seen since starting the program, and she was like Carly, like,
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what is Like something is different. I don't know what
it is, but like your energy is like incredible, Like
like something is different and like I'm so about it.
And that was the first time I think I'd ever
really received the compliment about my energy and just about
just about my being and like who I was. And
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I just felt so light and like present, and it
just was such like an all haul moment that like
that is the ultimate compliment you could ever receive, you know,
like she could have told me I looked a great
in my genes that day, and it what if I
wouldn't even remember it today to be telling you, you know,
so that really was like kind of a cool moment.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It's not a seeing, it's a being, it's a feeling.
It's who we are.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
And like, I mean, that's the best compliment ever when
somebody can say to you, like, wow, you walk in
the room and I feel I feel the lift, Like
the temperature in the room goes up when you walk in.
You know, it's just this contagious energy. So what would
you say to any woman that is just on the
fence about really investing in this kind of conversation, because
it is it's very seductive to want to just like
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go back, especially this time of year, you know, go
back on keto, go back to weight watchers for the
umpteen time, Like, what would you say to anybody that
is really on the fence about having this conversation? They
have their own fears that maybe they're like the only
one that this wouldn't work for, destined to stay this
way forever, whatever it is, Like, what would you say
and maybe their age, you know, anybody that's your age.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Or younger or older, whatever it is, Like, what.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Would you say to anybody that's on the fence about
taking this plunge because they might have a preconceived notion
about what it would take or how it would work
for them.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, I would just say, like one of the biggest
beliefs I should do that I think a lot of
people have is this like either or mentality Like you
and I think you've said it, like you have to
be like healthy or happy or like you can't have
you know, I want to be healthy and happy, you know.
And I just I think that's what everyone wants, you know.
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And if you all connect with any of what Leanne
says or what we've talked about, like, it is just
so well worth investing in it and just getting off
the hamster wheel. It's just going to be more and
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more of the same until you really dig deep to
make a big shift, and the shift takes work, but
it's really simple, and so I just especially if anyone
in their twenties, thirteens, or at any age, like, it's
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never too early and it's never too late, you know.
I think this is a bigger conversation that you know,
everyone can be invited into you in their own time.
But if you at all feel like this is a
conversation you're ready to have, it's truly transformational. You know,
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it could really change your life and is well worth
worth the investment in yourself.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Well, thank you so much for sharing your truths and
just you know, letting us behind the scenes of your
journey and all of your experiences, the good, the bad,
everything in between. Really grateful to hear your perspective, and
for anybody who's listening that you know have have had
some of the same beliefs that you did. I know
this will definitely resonate with with so many people, So thank.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
You for being here, Thank you for sharing. Ladies.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
We're signing out for now, but thanks for tuning in
and we will see you again. Sue Bye, We'll be
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