March 23, 2020 • 43 mins
It’s a Whine Down in Quarantine! We hear the story of how Jana and Mike made it home from Canada during the COVID-19 crisis.
How are Jana and Mike handling isolation? They share some advice on how couples can transition into working from home... together.
And we talk to Dr. Raj about the realities of the virus and some tips to keep you healthy and ease your anxiety.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Finds out and happy quarantine where every day seems like
a Monday. I'm freezing, by the way right now, and
I'm sweating. It's so cold. It's seventy one degrees in here.
It's freezing. Jane and I have a constant battle throughout
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the day of the thermostat, and usually she wins somehow, No,
I don't. Usually it's split in the middle, which it
is right now. It's freezing though, well, it's like it's
blowing on me. I'm just really sick of this house.
And Channa likes to say that when she's wearing like
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a tank top and like booty shorts, He's like, I'm
so cold. I don't own a pair of booty shorts.
I don't know which booty shorts or something. Okay, I
don't own a pair of booty shorts. Let me just
be very clear about that. Shorts that don't go past
very far um. This quarantine has been interesting because there's
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a lot of things that I've noticed, like how loud
you chump when you eat your checks? Pretty little Gina,
what have you noticed Mike being stuck in the house
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with me? How much I love you and appreciate every
moment we're spend together. Oh wow, that's cute, the difference
between you and me. I have to say that. I
first want to just say how fortunate we are to
be in our house. Because when we were in Canada,
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I'll give you a quick quarantine for a lot of
you guys obviously already know this, but we went to
um Canada for about forty eight hours because at the
time we were told that it was okay to travel
to Canada because it wasn't bad over there, and so
we packed up the kids and UM eight bags worth
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of you knows, two car seats and a stroller. Later. Um.
I once we got to Canada, though, is when I
started to get nervous. Well, as everyone knows, this all
escalated not even day by day, but like hour by
hour things were changing. So you were halfway through filming
the first day of filming, well, I mean even before filming.
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I mean when we got there Saturday Sunday, I was
just like I was on the phone with my agents
and managers being like, I don't I don't know how
they haven't shut down production. This is getting crazy. They're
talking about border closes and and that, you know, I
kept talking to you, and having that, I was shaking
in bed, massive anxiety attack that I had because it
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just felt I felt wrong to be there, to not
be home and in our house. And but then at
the same time, I'm like, all right, well, if we
can be making money and it's safe for here, they say,
and there's there's it's clearly safe because they haven't shut
it down. So I just tried to think that. But
then when we were on set and everyone was you know,
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they were going around like taking people's temperature, and I'm
and I'm like the person being like, well, technically the
symptoms show like you're contagious before the symptoms, so you're
taking the temperatures right now. But you know, I was
trying to also keep a job, so you know, it's
just And then we filmed one scene and then when
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we went to go change for the next scene, the
producers came in and they're like, we're shutting production down.
And then I just started bawling myself because I'm like,
oh my god, how are we going to get home?
And they're shutting down the border. We're in a car
crossing the border so we can just get across the
United States. And because everything was changing so quick. We're like,
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let's just get to the US, and the border was
an hour away, so like, let's just get across the line,
you know, country lines, and then figure out how to
get home. Thankfully, Sarah and her dad came to the rescue.
I called her bawling my eyes out because the flights.
There was this one flight we were going to take.
It was gonna stop in Washington, which is I know,
is it was a really bad place for the COVID
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nineteen and so. But that flight actually ended up getting canceled,
so we would have been stuck in Canada, and then
getting canceled, we would have been stuck in Canada and
then not to mention customs coming back flying back into
the US and how crazy that would have been. So yeah,
we're just but I don't know, there's a lot of
The whole point to say is I know there's a
lot of people right now that are stuck. I was
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watching Good Morning America this morning, and there's so many
people stuck in Italy and just across the world and unfortunate.
I just, you know, I just want to also say,
I know how grateful we are that we are home,
and I even though we joke and we make, you know,
silly comments about being stuck at home and we're so bored,
Like I am so grateful to be bored at our
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house and unfortunately very blessed to be here together healthy
as a family through all this, and you know, we
we think about everyone else out there and just hope
that everyone is doing what they can to stay safe.
And how are you doing, by the way, because I know,
I mean joking aside, how have you been being stuck?
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You know, if that quarantine life life? I'm fine. I
feel like this is like your jam. I mean, this
is like your best case scenario. I live for like
an isolated lifestyle. This is just filling my anti socialism um,
that part of me that's just likes to be on
my own. No, I mean, I mean, you know me,
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I don't panic much at all. So I'm just I
just take what life is giving us right now and
looking at what we have, and that's again us together
under the same roof healthy right now. And you know
the rest is there's we can only control what we
can control. Tell them when you took it serious, because
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I just find that really fine. And and sometimes I'm
naive to a to a fault with certain things. And
that's where you and I balance each other out. We're both,
you know, ends of the spectrum with how we react
to things. So sometimes I'm a little naive and how
calm or collected I may be. So I took it
serious when I was watching Sports Center watching Get Up
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one morning and when they had like a breaking news
and like you know, Mike Greenberg is like going to
his ear like wait, hold on, yep, and like getting
that kind of thing. I'm like, wait, am I watching
CNN right now? Like if it's not about where Tom
Brady's gonna sign and they're talking about some pandemic going on,
I was like, Okay, this is real. I was like,
hold on, into sports Center is having this breaking news
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that's about something other than sports. I was like all right,
it hit me. And then when things started canceling madness,
canceling season is getting suspended, I was just like, all right,
this is the real deal right now. And but I
am happy to see all these athletes and owners of
teams and stuff stepping up and still employing the people
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that work at their arenas. And what do you see
the pistons little Caesars. They they think it's like a
hundred thousand dollars to the people at the Little Caesar's Arena. Amazing.
A bunch of players across all these leagues are donating money,
A bunch of owners and facilities are donating money to
still employ the people that you know, make these events possible,
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which I think is really important during this time right now,
and I appreciate those people doing that. What do you
think has been Um? Do you in your opinion, do
you think it's been taken out of context? Again, my personality, everything,
he's taken out of content the way society is these days.
Um No. I mean maybe to an extent some people's reaction,
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but no, because it's something that society doesn't understand. It's
not like the flu, it's not as common. It's something new.
We don't have vaccines for it yet. So I think
I appreciate the preventative nature that the country is taking
with canceling things, suspending things, because I think that's better
than being naive to be like everything's gonna be great,
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you know, which is still their job to do. So,
you know, mass panic or mass chaos doesn't occur in
our country. They still have to kind of put on
the front a little bit politically, but I think they're
taking the necessary steps right now to contain as much
as it can. Um. But we get to talk to
Dr Roshini raj Um later in this episode, just to
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ask her some questions that you guys, um, you know,
have been wondering. Um, she's a big and trip. You're
on a Today show and UM, I'm excited to kind
of ask her a few things that I've been a
little bit worried about too. So yeah, she's a board
certified gastro and ternologist and internist who specializes in women's health. UM,
so she probably knows what she's talking about on what's
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going on inside your body. So we're gonna get here
on she only went to Harvard, it's not that um.
So yeah, we're gonna have her on here soon and
talk to her and ask your questions about all this
and see what her take is. But first let's take
a break. Eastern I want to throw it to you,
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how have you and your lady been. We've been Uh,
We've been good. We've been keeping busy. Um, there's been
a bunch of house stuff we've been putting off doing,
and this seems like a great time to paint the
kitchen cabinets, by the way I saw it, and I
love the floors. Oh thank you. You know, um we
do those floors. I realized I didn't have a good
before picture from after we did the floors, but before
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we did the cabinet, so I posted that and a
lot of people are like, wait, you change your floors too,
I did. Uh those are peel and stick vinyl squares,
so it's just like I put stickers on the floor,
so we didn't actually thank you, thank you very much.
That's that's all Allison's idea and uh, her implementing it.
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And I just did the grunt work. But is she
working from home too? You know? So my wife works
for a museum here in town, and she was really
afraid because they closed the museum obviously, so she was
afraid she was gonna get laid off and she was
told yesterday that, um, she because she can't do her
job remotely. So they told her just stay home for
two months and we'll pay you and uh reassessed. So
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she she's just off for two months with pay, which
is very cool of them to do that because they
don't have to. Um, so she's at home painting the
rest of the cabinets. Right now, I think, how has
it been for you guys nationally? It's kind of in
close quarters, it's it's it's been it's been good. We
you know, we get along really well obviously, so things
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have been good. That The thing I'm kind of worried
about as we head into multiple weeks of this is uh,
like realizing that like I am at home, but I
still have to work and she does not. So I'm
concerned about that potentially being a problem. Like I think
I need to set some some boundaries, like hey, between
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these hours, like I'm just going to be in front
of a laptop typing or editing stuff, um, and uh
and you know she canna be watching Netflix or whatever
she's gonna do. Um. But but other than that, I
mean that that's just something I'm concerned about. But I
don't think it's gonna be a problem. And we we've
been having fun. We've been building legos and uh yeah,
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just staying busy. I feel like that's something though that
you could maybe because I think that's a really good point,
because I think there's a lot of people that obviously
are working from home. So I think you can maybe
make it into something because you know, she might not
know that you have to do what you're doing on
your computer, So making it kind of what we do
because there was a lot of mind reading that we've done.
And if you're like sitting on your couch, sitting, you know,
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on the couch, doing on your laptop and editing these podcasts,
but then she's wanted to talk to you, you might
be thinking, like does she not care that? Like does
she not understand that I have to work right now?
See that I'm doing work right now. But it's but
she can't read your mind. She doesn't know that you're
doing something. So it's about being maybe being proactive and saying, hey,
you know, just so you know, for the next couple hours,
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I have to do my work. I don't know. What
do you think? Then, no, you took the words out
of my mouth because I think this time right now
is difficult for the people that aren't used to working
at home under the same roof together at the same
time where and that's the challenge in itself. So Jane
and I've been able to have had experience navigating that,
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but it's these people who aren't used to that that
have to work from totally now and their spouses right
there like in their space, and that's usually their time
away from their spouse, and now it's like everyone's just
on top of each other. So I think that's the
biggest point that we've realized, and that is like not
being afraid to set boundaries and just be like, Okay,
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we're both working from home. What part of the house
do you want to work in? What part of the
house do I want to work in. Let's first discuss that.
Then let's discuss the hours. You know, do we want
to have lunch together? Do we you know? Whatever? It
may be. That way, you know the expectations. And like
you said, Janna, it's Alison doesn't see East and be like, oh,
he's just probably just hanging out. Hey, let's talk or
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let's watch something, and East's like uh, and maybe feel
obligated to even do that and say sure, sure, but
then you're going to be upset with her later and
hold that resentment in which I think to like to
go off your point, Mike is saying to maybe not
like these the hours of the day, because things are
going to change and with the kids being home too,
it's just like, hey, do you got the kids for
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the next hour because I have to go, you know,
do some posts and do some emails, and then let
me know what you need. Is there something that you need?
So it's about like meeting each other's needs, but also
being open to kind of being flexible with the fact
that it's not an ideal situation for anyone right now
to be working from home and have the kids and
and all and all of that. But you know, if you, guys,
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if you stop the mind reading and just ask for
what you need, but then also be willing to ask
your partner what they need to, I think it's gonna
really lessen a lot of fights. Yeah, I mean, even
like what Jinna and I've been doing is we never
typically do this, but we've been alternating mornings because we
have the kids all day, and we've even kept Kylie
kind of away a lot. You know, we have her
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come a couple hours just so we can do this
kind of stuff. But other than us physically podcasting, she's
not here and we're with the kids. So it's like,
all right, let's alternate morning. So yesterday morning, I had
the kids until Nana am. This morning, Joanna had him
tell Nanna and I slept in and tomorrow we're going
to both wake up and get them. So it's I
think it's a good way because you and I never
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sleep in, so it's a good way to tackle it.
So we're both not worn out come you know, mid
afternoon and we're just the kids are already driving both
of us nuts. The other one can kind of take
over that hasn't had them, you know all morning. I
told Mike this other day though, I was like, I
kind of have enjoyed all the time that we've spent
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with them, and just as the family, it's been so nice.
I mean, yes, there's been times where it's been challenging
in Jason's whiney and Julie's you know, being whinny too,
but it's I've loved every second of it. I truly have.
It's been a really nice time to just chill. Now.
For my personality, it's been tough, like anxiety wise, but
you know, I'm dealing with it. So but I again,
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I think just to go back to your point with
Easton and Allison, it's just about and everyone else out
there that are working from home and your and your peeps.
It's just to ask for what you need, ask your
partner what they need, and um, just cut the mind reading,
because when you're stuck inside a house, there's gonna be
some major arguments happening if you guys don't communicate. Well yeah,
and even down to I mean, you guys have heard
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us talk about this a lot about especially in our relationship,
me verbalizing ME time. So not just disappearing and going
into another room and you're watching TV and your significant
others like, oh okay, you're gonna help out with dinner
or you're just gonna disappear and do your thing, you know.
So for us to be like, hey I need an hour,
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Hey tonight, you know what, I just want to go
upstairs and do something for me whatever it may be.
That way, it's because we spend all day together. Let's
not expect that we're going to spend every minute of
the entire day together. So does that mean you don't
want to watch a movie with me tonight? The New
Vies Moatherspoon, Gerry Washington. Maybe tomorrow night? All right, Um,
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our guest is about to call in, so um take
another break. Alright, guys, as we said earlier, we have
a special guest on here. She's actually Health Magazine's medical
editor and contributor on the Today Show, and she is
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Dr Raj Dr Raji. There. I am hi, guys, Hi,
nice to talk to you again. I'm doing all right
here in New York City. So it's a little bit
crazy over here. How is everything in New York right now? Um?
It's kind of surreal. You know, this is a city
that is usually always buzzing, and it's definitely a lot
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quieter than usual. Um. And then of course I work
at n y U and you know, so a lot
of a lot of things going on right now, um,
dealing with patients and preparing for a lot more to come.
So it's a bit of a crazy time, but we're
all trying to keep calm and just do our job.
What is your thoughts on how long? Um this? You know,
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the school closure is in? How long? Um? This pan?
I don't want to say a pandemic. Pandemic is gonnas
gonna last? Well? I think that, Uh, it's not an
easy question to answer, but I think most people agree
it's going to be at least a couple of months, um,
And it could be longer. I think what everyone needs
to understand is, you know, we are going to see large,
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large numbers of people getting very sick. And it's not
the majority of people who are infected that are going
to get very sick. It's still the minority, but it's
still gonna be enough people that it's going to be
overwhelming to the hospital. So what we can do, UM
as younger, healthier people is really the social isolation part
that's going to help stop the spread and get those
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numbers down to a point where hopefully the hospitals can handle,
you know, the ones who do get sick. So even
if you're out there feeling like well, I'm not you
know of the age group that's really susceptible and I
feel fine, you doing your part by staying home, UM
is actually going to just help everybody, UM, the hospitals,
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people who are more prone to getting sick. And and
remember if the hospital hospitals are overwhelmed with COVID nineteen,
that means they're not able to treat just the regular
things that anybody can get. You know, they fall off
their bike and they get a broken arm. You know,
we're all going to be suffering if our hospitals are overwhelmed,
so it's really in everyone's best interest to really adhere
to these social distancing UM kind of rules and advice.
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And we can definitely talk about how we should be
doing that at home and what's the healthiest way and
the safest way UM. But yeah, that's my little plug
for staying at home and flattening the curve as much
as we can. I mean that, I guess when you know,
when you say a couple of months, in my mind,
I'm like, okay, well I look at China and they
have no new cases that just came through, and so
that's been that. That was like, you know, two months.
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So I mean I guess you know, from from the
time it came that would be pretty much on part
then to what you said. Yeah, I mean that's very encouraging.
What what we just what we're seeing, you know, really
today and yesterday coming out of China, UM. But we
do have to understand that this is not China, and
they were extremely aggressive to a point that we probably
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could not ever do in this country in terms of
really locking down people, monitoring people to a very kind
of invasive and intrusive degree that I'm not sure we
would allow in this country. So while they had what
looks like pretty dramatic results, I don't know that we
can really look at that and say, well, oh they're
done in two months, that means we'll be done in
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two months. Um. You know, I don't want people to
get a little too comfortable. Of course, we should look
for hope where we can find it, but we shouldn't
kind of make the assumption that everything's going to go
the same way that it didn't China. That brings me
to a question I have you know, from your medical
expertise and professionalism, do you think that we as a
country have taken Are we being you know, proactive in
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our prevention of this? Are we a little late behind
some of the decision making or right on time with
some of the decision making a close certain things down,
or like how do you feel about it? Um? Yeah,
I mean I think that we. I think most people
agree at this point we were late in testing and
getting available testing to the degree that we should have
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had it earlier on, because I think if we had
that earlier on, we would have been made some of
those decisions about closures sooner as well, because we would
have more information about the numbers involved. So I mean
that was in the past. It wasn't great, but it's
over now and now we have to deal with what's
going on now. And the good news is testing has
increased a lot recently, in very recent days, UM, and
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so we'll get a clearer picture of what the true
situation is. But yeah, you know, it was an ideal
the way it was handled in the very beginning, But
now I think, UM, people understand the gravity of what's
happening on the highest level and are really acting on that.
And again, you know what what an individual can do.
You know, you're not going to be to get tests
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sooner or a cure sooner. I'm not, you know, even
in what I do day to day, But there are
things that you and I can do in our own
lives that will help. UM, if we all do it
will help shorten the duration and you know, less people
will get really sick. And and can you just say
a few of those things for our listeners. Yeah, well,
I think one of the things is this whole idea
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of staying at home, UM and how you do that effectively.
So right now we really are everyone is encouraged if
they can work from home to do that, UM to
really stay at home as much as possible. But the
question arises, what do you do if you feel sick
and you know you live with other people and these
are you know, even just a regular cold that you
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might not be sure if it is just a cold
or something more. For me, I have the issue if
I'm going to work every day in a medical center,
then I go home to my kids and I don't want,
you know, I don't know if I'm going to be
exposing them because the incubation period for this COVID nineteen
could be even up to fourteen days. Is so, how
do you kind of within your own home keep everybody safe?
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And I think there are a few things to keep
in mind for that. UM One is certainly, if you're
feeling sick, you want to stay within your own room,
kind of have your own designated room and perfecably your
own bathroom. Now that's not always possible, depending on the
living situation, but if you are sharing any type of rooms,
specifically a bathroom, you want to be very mindful of
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how you're cleaning in and right now, it seems that
bleach is a very Bleach Solutions diluted bleach, which is
in a lot of disinfectants out there, um is the
most effective way to kill the virus. So you want
to be cleaning your surfaces frequently with a bleach type
of detergent or solution. UM. You want to be careful
of all the things that you're touching that other people
may be touching. So of course you're not gonna share
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a toothbrush with anyone. But I I came across UM
Hello Products just launched these toothpaste tablets. So these are
individual you toothpaste tablets that you can just chew and
use your own. That way, you're not touching a toothpaste
tube with anyone else. I bring mind to work as well,
but little things like that being mindful of, you know,
not touching surfaces or objects that other family members may
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be touching as well. UM And you know, preferably you
don't want to be going out much, but of course
you may be ordering food and don't worry that, you know,
the thirty second handoff from the delivery guy. You know.
I do want people to realize that usually to get infected,
it's a more prolonged exposure, it's not such a short one.
So but anytime you're interacting with someone from the outside world,
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you want to wash your hands very well. We know
now that the virus can survive on hard surfaces, um
for a few days, if not up to even seven
days some people are saying, but most people say about
three or four. So just be mindful that, you know,
you want to be frequently cleaning, disinfecting the hard surfaces,
and just being mindful of kind of who you're surrounding
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yourself with. So first of all, love all of that. Um.
I've really this has been kind of great for me
because I've always been a hand sanitizer user, but now
I'm really learning how to wash my hands, so this
has been This has been great. I'm finally washing my
hands with soap like a big girl, So that's that's huge. Um.
I know I've talked about it before on the podcast
about like the flu versus corona, and you know how
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I understand the coronavirus spreads quicker than the flu, I
think is what I've heard. But I just when I
look at numbers and like, wow, like the flu has
killed so many more people. So that's where I kind
of get a little bit confused with you know, wy are,
and they're more precautions taken with the flu. Yeah, no,
it's a good question, and I think a lot of
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people don't realize how deadly the flu can be. And
that's why, you know, people like me and doctors are
always thinking, get your flu shot, get your flu shot, because, yeah,
the flu affects so many people and actually kills a
lot of people in this country every year. Now with
the coronavirus or COVID nineteen UM, there are a few differences.
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It is. It seems to be more contages, which is
obviously not great, and it is even compared to the flu,
more deadly. So that means that if a huge section
of our population gets the COVID nineteen as is what
happens with the flu every year, we will see more
debts to that due to that than we would generally
see due to the flu. So it is actually more deadly.
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It's just that it hasn't spread to that extent yet
the way the flu does, UM, So we kind of
have to wait and see kind of what happens and
the progression of that. Hopefully it's not going to but
some people are expecting, you know, that forty of our
population will get COVID nineteen and because it has a
higher death rate than we are going to see a
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lot more debts. But rather than focus on that, I
do have a question with that though. I know they
say a lot of them you know, older like our
parents and grandparents and stuff. But I was on the
phone actually their day with microlfriend Shawn Johnson, and she
was saying that her her friends, you know, as an
e R doctor, and she was saying, there's actually a
few cases, um, you know, of twenty thirty year olds
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that have had not had pre existing you know, conditions
that are on ventilators. Yeah, that's a great point. I
think this is one of the things we have to understand,
is we this is a new virus. You know that.
In fact, that's part of the name of the novel coronavirus.
We're still learning about it, and I think up until honestly,
just a few days ago, most of us and most
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of the experts were saying this is something that really
affects the elderly much much more. Young healthy people generally
won't get very sick. Um recently, just as your friend said,
and a lot of hospitals are seeing young people that
are healthy getting sick, still not to the degree as
the elderly or people with medical conditions, but um, you know,
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one report said that about of the hospital admissions now
are in people that are younger. So this is just
one number one evidence that we're still learning about this
virus and we don't have all the answer and some
of those answers are going to change as we understand
more about it and just have more data and more evidence. Um.
But the other thing is that everyone has to be careful,
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and not just out of altruism for those who are older,
but for yourself as well, because it does look like now,
just in the last few days, it's looking like we
weren't right about that that yes, elderly are more prone
to get sick, but young people can get sick too,
And a lot of people have been asking me, well,
you know, what can we do in terms of boosting
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our immune system and and you know, at this time,
it's not like there's any particular supplements that's been shown
to help, or any any drugs that people can just
take on their own. Um, but I do strongly believe
that the lifestyle that you're leading and the diet that
you're consuming does affect your immune system. So how much
sleep you're getting, UM, if you're able to stay active daily,
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I think that does wonders for immune system. Also what
you're eating. You know, there are certain foods that we
know have UM antiox ant and immune boosting properties. I
think that probiotics are a great way to boost your
men systems. So those are the healthy bacteria that you
can get, yogurt and kimshi. There's a nut called Barucas,
which is this new highly antioxidant containing nut that's lower
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in fat but high end protein and has some great
you know, micronutrients and magnesium. They're actually for kind of
this whole Corona thing running a promotion where if you
do health nut they'll give you a discount. Um. But
there are a lot of ways you can boost your
diet to really help ward off UM, getting any kind
of infection. And you know, no one's saying it's going
to prevent you, and you still have to do all
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the other precautions, but really taking care of yourself at
a time like this, and even managing stress, which a
lot of us are experiencing extreme stress right now. UM,
that can depress your immune system. So the way you
manage that whether it's yoga or deep breathing or journaling,
anything you can do that's going to be kind of
your best defense right now. Yeah, that's It's funny. I
was feeling that they're I'm like, oh, man, I you know,
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I started to have like a little bit of a
sore throat and a headache, and I was just, you know,
thinking to myself, I'm like, I think I'm stressing myself
out and I'm getting sick because I'm so stressed. Right,
you're absolutely right. Yeah. I mean when you're stressed and
you're not sleeping, then your body is just primed to
get sick. So you don't want to be in that position.
I saw a study UM on CNN that they said that, um,
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they actually have injected people with a potential um COVID
nineteen shot. Is that true? Yes, So they are trying
to develop a vaccine and they're actually starting trials on
giving it to people to see if it's going to work. Um. However,
it's important to just point out that any actual commercially
available approved vaccine isn't going to be here for at
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least another Most people are saying twelve to eighteen months,
So that's definitely not a short term solution, but um,
it is something that needs to be worked on, and
as is being actively worked on. And the same thing
with treatments. You know, um it takes a long time
to approve any sort of drug for anything in this country,
but that process is being kind of fast tracked and shortened,
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and there are many people working on many potential treatments.
Um really, you know, in hopes of finding some sort
of cure, because as I said, the numbers are going
to be so large that anything we can do to
treat people so that they're not in the hospital or
they're not in the hospital for many days, would really
be a huge, huge help. Let me ask you one
more question, Dr Rodd before we let you go. And
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you know, for everyone being cooped up in quarantine and
trying to do their due diligence, is it irresponsible if
people are like, hey, you know, we have our close friends.
It's two of them and they're one kid. Let's have
them over for dinner just to have some human interaction.
But everyone's conscious about washing hands and what they touched
and all that. Is that irresponsible to do or is
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it still okay as long as you are make sure
you're you're practicing those healthy habits. I think that's a
really good question, and that's something that I have asked myself, UM,
and many people have asked me to because you're right.
I mean, as I said, this could be going on
for at least a couple of months, and it is very,
very difficult to feel totally socially isolated for that long.
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And as much as we love our families, you know,
if there's the only people who are going to see
for two months, we might I'll go a little batty.
So UM, I think my answer would be this right now.
The recommendation, UM is you know, trying not to gather
more than groups more than ten people. When you're under
ten people, I think you just have to really carefully
think about who were those people you're inviting over and
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what have they been doing for the last couple of weeks. So,
for example, me, someone who's going to work every day
in a hospital, I'm probably not the person you want
to invite over, you know, even with the best of intentions. Well,
I appreciate that I'll come your skype or something, but
you know, you really want to if it's your friend,
your close friends who you know they're they've been working
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from home. You know, they've been very diligent about really
not going out much. There's their kids are not going
on you know, play dates every other day with different kids.
They're not going to the playground. If you know the
people well and you kind of trust that they've been
as diligent as you have been, I think it's okay,
I really do. And then yeah, you wash your hands
and you're careful and um. But the problem is when
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you start inviting people that maybe you don't know what
they're up to, or they say, oh, can I bring
a friend and you know, and it's really just um,
knowing where the people, what they've been up to the
last couple of weeks, and and what kind of risk
you want to take their makes total sense. I appreciate
that well, Dr Dr Ross, thank you so much for
your time. And again, you know, we know that you
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recently co found a two skin care line as well,
so can you tell our listeners a little bit about
that in order to find you Yeah, yeah, and thank you.
You know, this is for a lot of business is
not an easy time, so I appreciate, uh the opportunity
to tell you about two Law which is my probiotics
skin care line. So I was telling you how much
I love probiotics and healthy bacteria. They're great for your
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overall health. They're also great when they're topically applied onto
your skin. And so that's why I founded Tula about
six years ago, and probiotics is the foundation of the line.
It's in every product, and it's great for so many things,
anti aging, for sensitive skin, for acting a prone skin.
We're on Tula dot com and we're at Alta as well.
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Alta unfortunately has temporarily closed, but Alta dot Com is there,
and it's a great time to stay home and do
a lot of self care and take care of your skin.
So so give it a try. Absolutely, Thank you so much.
Dr J really appreciate it. Thank you. I hope you
both stay well all right, YouTube, thank you. I'm starting
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to freak out that with the thing is that where
you're getting quiet over there, because I start looking over
Regina and she just kind of has that look. Well,
because I did. I heard that on Good Morning America
that it's now like twenties and thirties year olds actually
you know, getting their un ventilators and really sick. They
didn't have pre existing conditions. So I'm starting to freak
myself out. Sean and I the other day we're like,
(35:08):
oh my god, can I not breathe? Like because it's
just it's scary to think about. So I don't want
anyone coming over here that's not you know if Yeah,
I just I want us to be like so incredibly
careful because, like she said, these people are going to
get the coronavirus. It's scary, that's crazy. So I think
we have to make sure that this. You know, we
(35:29):
do our part by staying in and not letting people in.
Hey Eastern do um? Well, First of all, a lot
of people ask me, what's the email again for them
to write in. That's wine Down at I heeart radio
dot com. So if you have any burning questions for me,
Mike Easton, Mark Tory, whoever, it's a wine Down at
(35:50):
I Heart radio dot com. Eastn Do we have any
emails right now? We do. We have a couple of
anonymous ones, which which are always fun. So anonymous here go,
here's a here's the first one. Um uh, this person says,
uh so ironic that after your Dallas Winddowns show, we
ended up going out and I was lucky to meet
this gem of a guy. It's been great ever since.
(36:12):
So I'll forever thank you for keeping us in Texas
that weekend longer than we were supposed to. It was
kind of faith that we met, and if we get married,
you and might can be officiants. My question is we
had a deep conversation about faith last night. He said
to me, I'm not sure how you feel, but it
makes me religious and spiritual knowing that God was always
there and having someone to lean on and talk to.
I definitely talked to him all day every day, and
(36:33):
I said, I also need that same belief and whomever
my significant other will be, it's so important to me.
My views are totally the opposite. Not that his views
are bad. I just don't have a relationship with God
at all like he does, nor have I read a
Bible or gone to church that much. We talked through
it and worked it out, but I'm just nervous and
putting all this effort into a long distance thing, and
that will always be above our head. I'm even thinking
(36:53):
way down the line of kids get involved too. I'm
just curious of y'all's thoughts and perspective. I think you
need to take a breath. I think you're getting a
little ahead of yourself. But at the same time, the
same little astract is you're not too because those are
all really important things to think about. Um, don't feel
for me personally, don't feel like, oh my gosh, like
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because you've never read a Bible. Just because you haven't
read a Bible doesn't mean that you know you're not
a religious person. I've never read the Bible, but I
still go to church. And even when I didn't wasn't
going to church a lot, I still had my religious
beliefs and I had faith and I believed in God.
So I think everyone just has a different journey with that,
and everyone just kind of progresses at different times and
(37:36):
has strong relationships at different times when it comes to that.
But I think, you know, just keep I mean, how
do I say this where it's like, I you should
be thinking about those things, but also take a second
to just figure out like personality is, like do do
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you guys like each other's personality? Because it's like you're
just going to ahead of I think a two ahead
of the game. Um, yes and no, Because if that's
why I said yes and no, because I'm like, it's torn. Yeah,
but you know the fact that he's bringing up how
important God is to him, that he talks to him
on a regular basis, you know, all day every day.
I think that's good on him to express the fact
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that this is very important to him. This is a
relationship that he has in his life and is value
to him, and we'll always hold value to him. So
I think it's just my only thing is be careful
not to uh adapt yourself based on someone else's belief
or what they want to do. But if it's something
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that you've always wanted to be more engaged in, lean
on him about it, even ask her, be curious about it.
It doesn't mean you have to practice the same things
he does. And don't get ahead of yourself when you
think about kids involved in all of that. Just think
about y'all's relationship and how it will affect you guys
connecting together. So again, if it's something that you're not
(39:03):
against asking questions about it, lean into him about it.
Talk about your fears around why you don't do that,
or your upbringing or whatever it is. That's a great
area for y'all to really connect like on a much
deeper level than than most relationships do that early on,
So utilize that as a tool. Yeah, for sure. And
(39:23):
in a long distance it's kind of like just figure out,
you know, talk and just have those deep conversations and
see if you guys are connected on all levels. It's
good advice. Uh, let's let's do one more. This is
also from anonymous, a different anonymous. I need some communication advice.
My husband is on his phone all the time. He's
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texting his buddies, he's looking at effing fantasy sports, or
he's on Twitter. Not only is it making me feel neglected,
but our seven month old son sees him on his
phone and has now started screaming in order to get
his attention. How do I communicate that this is a
problem for me? How do I make him hear the
when he's home? It would be nice to be both
with the baby and I if you were present. When
I try to bring it up, my husband gets defensive
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and uses work as his excuse for always having it.
Either he needs to work or he needs to wind
down from work. What do you think I like the
wind down plug? Um? I feel like this is a
total struggle for a lot of people and I think
it's kind of like back to what we talked about
the mind reading and and coming from a good place
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and not screaming at him and being like you're always
on your phone. He's not going to hear that. But
if you sit down with them from a good place
and say, you know, hey, maybe when you guys are
getting into bed, or when I'm not actively doing he's
not actively doing it, just be like, hey, I just
want to express a feeling and and then talk to
him about it. Tell him how it makes you feel,
tell him that it makes you feel sad, and tell
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him that you know you would appreciate it. If you
know you would, he'd be more mindful. I understand work
and if he has to be on his phone, but
just be more mindful, especially around the kids too. That's
definitely a trigger for me. Yeah, I think, uh, you know,
if you come to him when he's not doing it,
you express your feelings around it. But then also you're
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you express that you're willing to uh meet in the
middle where it's like okay, hey, I know you have
a lot in your mind with work. Work keeps you
really busy, it stresses you out. Maybe when you come
home you know, you say hi to us for a
few minutes, and then you go into the room or
whatever and go sit down for thirty minutes, just you
and your phone and do what you need to do
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and then come out and the rest of the night
you're ours. You know, just kind of meet in the
middle where you're you're not shutting him down, because as
a man, it's like we just hate to be shut downs,
Like you can't do it just feels right. I've heard
that before. So if you're able to kind of meet
in the middle and everyone get what they need, then
you know, I think that's the way to go. And
I mean, Jana and I are very conscious at with
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the kids because we've done it where if we're up
in the playroom with the kids and they start playing
by themselves, we don't want to interrupt because it is
good for to play independently, and so maybe we get
on our phone to check an email or do something
like that. And Jolie has been like, you know, daddy,
you play with us. Like if I'm checking the weather,
checking even on my phone for a second, I'm like,
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oh nope, phone down, gone, because I just can't handle
that that guilt, that comes with that, so it's important
with the kids talk about that early. Yeah, and again
come from a good place because the best thing to
do is do it when you're both in a good
place and he's not actively on his phone, so good luck.
All right, Well another episode down, happy quarantining and everyone,
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please stay inside if you can, if you can, if
you can, if you can, stay inside. So this can
shorten up a little bit, so it's about all I got.
And hey, guys, email and let us know how you're
dealing with the quarantine. If you have an anxieties or fears,
let's talk about it next week. I love you, guys.
Finds out and happy quarantine where every day seems like
a Monday. I'm freezing, by the way right now, and
I'm sweating. It's so cold. It's seventy one degrees in here.
It's freezing. Jane and I have a constant battle throughout
(00:23):
the day of the thermostat, and usually she wins somehow, No,
I don't. Usually it's split in the middle, which it
is right now. It's freezing though, well, it's like it's
blowing on me. I'm just really sick of this house.
And Channa likes to say that when she's wearing like
(00:43):
a tank top and like booty shorts, He's like, I'm
so cold. I don't own a pair of booty shorts.
I don't know which booty shorts or something. Okay, I
don't own a pair of booty shorts. Let me just
be very clear about that. Shorts that don't go past
very far um. This quarantine has been interesting because there's
(01:09):
a lot of things that I've noticed, like how loud
you chump when you eat your checks? Pretty little Gina,
what have you noticed Mike being stuck in the house
(01:29):
with me? How much I love you and appreciate every
moment we're spend together. Oh wow, that's cute, the difference
between you and me. I have to say that. I
first want to just say how fortunate we are to
be in our house. Because when we were in Canada,
(01:50):
I'll give you a quick quarantine for a lot of
you guys obviously already know this, but we went to
um Canada for about forty eight hours because at the
time we were told that it was okay to travel
to Canada because it wasn't bad over there, and so
we packed up the kids and UM eight bags worth
(02:13):
of you knows, two car seats and a stroller. Later. Um.
I once we got to Canada, though, is when I
started to get nervous. Well, as everyone knows, this all
escalated not even day by day, but like hour by
hour things were changing. So you were halfway through filming
the first day of filming, well, I mean even before filming.
(02:36):
I mean when we got there Saturday Sunday, I was
just like I was on the phone with my agents
and managers being like, I don't I don't know how
they haven't shut down production. This is getting crazy. They're
talking about border closes and and that, you know, I
kept talking to you, and having that, I was shaking
in bed, massive anxiety attack that I had because it
(02:59):
just felt I felt wrong to be there, to not
be home and in our house. And but then at
the same time, I'm like, all right, well, if we
can be making money and it's safe for here, they say,
and there's there's it's clearly safe because they haven't shut
it down. So I just tried to think that. But
then when we were on set and everyone was you know,
(03:22):
they were going around like taking people's temperature, and I'm
and I'm like the person being like, well, technically the
symptoms show like you're contagious before the symptoms, so you're
taking the temperatures right now. But you know, I was
trying to also keep a job, so you know, it's
just And then we filmed one scene and then when
(03:43):
we went to go change for the next scene, the
producers came in and they're like, we're shutting production down.
And then I just started bawling myself because I'm like,
oh my god, how are we going to get home?
And they're shutting down the border. We're in a car
crossing the border so we can just get across the
United States. And because everything was changing so quick. We're like,
(04:04):
let's just get to the US, and the border was
an hour away, so like, let's just get across the line,
you know, country lines, and then figure out how to
get home. Thankfully, Sarah and her dad came to the rescue.
I called her bawling my eyes out because the flights.
There was this one flight we were going to take.
It was gonna stop in Washington, which is I know,
is it was a really bad place for the COVID
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nineteen and so. But that flight actually ended up getting canceled,
so we would have been stuck in Canada, and then
getting canceled, we would have been stuck in Canada and
then not to mention customs coming back flying back into
the US and how crazy that would have been. So yeah,
we're just but I don't know, there's a lot of
The whole point to say is I know there's a
lot of people right now that are stuck. I was
(04:47):
watching Good Morning America this morning, and there's so many
people stuck in Italy and just across the world and unfortunate.
I just, you know, I just want to also say,
I know how grateful we are that we are home,
and I even though we joke and we make, you know,
silly comments about being stuck at home and we're so bored,
Like I am so grateful to be bored at our
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house and unfortunately very blessed to be here together healthy
as a family through all this, and you know, we
we think about everyone else out there and just hope
that everyone is doing what they can to stay safe.
And how are you doing, by the way, because I know,
I mean joking aside, how have you been being stuck?
(05:27):
You know, if that quarantine life life? I'm fine. I
feel like this is like your jam. I mean, this
is like your best case scenario. I live for like
an isolated lifestyle. This is just filling my anti socialism um,
that part of me that's just likes to be on
my own. No, I mean, I mean, you know me,
(05:51):
I don't panic much at all. So I'm just I
just take what life is giving us right now and
looking at what we have, and that's again us together
under the same roof healthy right now. And you know
the rest is there's we can only control what we
can control. Tell them when you took it serious, because
(06:15):
I just find that really fine. And and sometimes I'm
naive to a to a fault with certain things. And
that's where you and I balance each other out. We're both,
you know, ends of the spectrum with how we react
to things. So sometimes I'm a little naive and how
calm or collected I may be. So I took it
serious when I was watching Sports Center watching Get Up
(06:38):
one morning and when they had like a breaking news
and like you know, Mike Greenberg is like going to
his ear like wait, hold on, yep, and like getting
that kind of thing. I'm like, wait, am I watching
CNN right now? Like if it's not about where Tom
Brady's gonna sign and they're talking about some pandemic going on,
I was like, Okay, this is real. I was like,
hold on, into sports Center is having this breaking news
(06:59):
that's about something other than sports. I was like all right,
it hit me. And then when things started canceling madness,
canceling season is getting suspended, I was just like, all right,
this is the real deal right now. And but I
am happy to see all these athletes and owners of
teams and stuff stepping up and still employing the people
(07:21):
that work at their arenas. And what do you see
the pistons little Caesars. They they think it's like a
hundred thousand dollars to the people at the Little Caesar's Arena. Amazing.
A bunch of players across all these leagues are donating money,
A bunch of owners and facilities are donating money to
still employ the people that you know, make these events possible,
(07:44):
which I think is really important during this time right now,
and I appreciate those people doing that. What do you
think has been Um? Do you in your opinion, do
you think it's been taken out of context? Again, my personality, everything,
he's taken out of content the way society is these days.
Um No. I mean maybe to an extent some people's reaction,
(08:08):
but no, because it's something that society doesn't understand. It's
not like the flu, it's not as common. It's something new.
We don't have vaccines for it yet. So I think
I appreciate the preventative nature that the country is taking
with canceling things, suspending things, because I think that's better
than being naive to be like everything's gonna be great,
(08:32):
you know, which is still their job to do. So,
you know, mass panic or mass chaos doesn't occur in
our country. They still have to kind of put on
the front a little bit politically, but I think they're
taking the necessary steps right now to contain as much
as it can. Um. But we get to talk to
Dr Roshini raj Um later in this episode, just to
(08:54):
ask her some questions that you guys, um, you know,
have been wondering. Um, she's a big and trip. You're
on a Today show and UM, I'm excited to kind
of ask her a few things that I've been a
little bit worried about too. So yeah, she's a board
certified gastro and ternologist and internist who specializes in women's health. UM,
so she probably knows what she's talking about on what's
(09:16):
going on inside your body. So we're gonna get here
on she only went to Harvard, it's not that um.
So yeah, we're gonna have her on here soon and
talk to her and ask your questions about all this
and see what her take is. But first let's take
a break. Eastern I want to throw it to you,
(09:42):
how have you and your lady been. We've been Uh,
We've been good. We've been keeping busy. Um, there's been
a bunch of house stuff we've been putting off doing,
and this seems like a great time to paint the
kitchen cabinets, by the way I saw it, and I
love the floors. Oh thank you. You know, um we
do those floors. I realized I didn't have a good
before picture from after we did the floors, but before
(10:05):
we did the cabinet, so I posted that and a
lot of people are like, wait, you change your floors too,
I did. Uh those are peel and stick vinyl squares,
so it's just like I put stickers on the floor,
so we didn't actually thank you, thank you very much.
That's that's all Allison's idea and uh, her implementing it.
(10:25):
And I just did the grunt work. But is she
working from home too? You know? So my wife works
for a museum here in town, and she was really
afraid because they closed the museum obviously, so she was
afraid she was gonna get laid off and she was
told yesterday that, um, she because she can't do her
job remotely. So they told her just stay home for
two months and we'll pay you and uh reassessed. So
(10:48):
she she's just off for two months with pay, which
is very cool of them to do that because they
don't have to. Um, so she's at home painting the
rest of the cabinets. Right now, I think, how has
it been for you guys nationally? It's kind of in
close quarters, it's it's it's been it's been good. We
you know, we get along really well obviously, so things
(11:09):
have been good. That The thing I'm kind of worried
about as we head into multiple weeks of this is uh,
like realizing that like I am at home, but I
still have to work and she does not. So I'm
concerned about that potentially being a problem. Like I think
I need to set some some boundaries, like hey, between
(11:32):
these hours, like I'm just going to be in front
of a laptop typing or editing stuff, um, and uh
and you know she canna be watching Netflix or whatever
she's gonna do. Um. But but other than that, I
mean that that's just something I'm concerned about. But I
don't think it's gonna be a problem. And we we've
been having fun. We've been building legos and uh yeah,
(11:53):
just staying busy. I feel like that's something though that
you could maybe because I think that's a really good point,
because I think there's a lot of people that obviously
are working from home. So I think you can maybe
make it into something because you know, she might not
know that you have to do what you're doing on
your computer, So making it kind of what we do
because there was a lot of mind reading that we've done.
And if you're like sitting on your couch, sitting, you know,
(12:15):
on the couch, doing on your laptop and editing these podcasts,
but then she's wanted to talk to you, you might
be thinking, like does she not care that? Like does
she not understand that I have to work right now?
See that I'm doing work right now. But it's but
she can't read your mind. She doesn't know that you're
doing something. So it's about being maybe being proactive and saying, hey,
you know, just so you know, for the next couple hours,
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I have to do my work. I don't know. What
do you think? Then, no, you took the words out
of my mouth because I think this time right now
is difficult for the people that aren't used to working
at home under the same roof together at the same
time where and that's the challenge in itself. So Jane
and I've been able to have had experience navigating that,
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but it's these people who aren't used to that that
have to work from totally now and their spouses right
there like in their space, and that's usually their time
away from their spouse, and now it's like everyone's just
on top of each other. So I think that's the
biggest point that we've realized, and that is like not
being afraid to set boundaries and just be like, Okay,
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we're both working from home. What part of the house
do you want to work in? What part of the
house do I want to work in. Let's first discuss that.
Then let's discuss the hours. You know, do we want
to have lunch together? Do we you know? Whatever? It
may be. That way, you know the expectations. And like
you said, Janna, it's Alison doesn't see East and be like, oh,
he's just probably just hanging out. Hey, let's talk or
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let's watch something, and East's like uh, and maybe feel
obligated to even do that and say sure, sure, but
then you're going to be upset with her later and
hold that resentment in which I think to like to
go off your point, Mike is saying to maybe not
like these the hours of the day, because things are
going to change and with the kids being home too,
it's just like, hey, do you got the kids for
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the next hour because I have to go, you know,
do some posts and do some emails, and then let
me know what you need. Is there something that you need?
So it's about like meeting each other's needs, but also
being open to kind of being flexible with the fact
that it's not an ideal situation for anyone right now
to be working from home and have the kids and
and all and all of that. But you know, if you, guys,
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if you stop the mind reading and just ask for
what you need, but then also be willing to ask
your partner what they need to, I think it's gonna
really lessen a lot of fights. Yeah, I mean, even
like what Jinna and I've been doing is we never
typically do this, but we've been alternating mornings because we
have the kids all day, and we've even kept Kylie
kind of away a lot. You know, we have her
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come a couple hours just so we can do this
kind of stuff. But other than us physically podcasting, she's
not here and we're with the kids. So it's like,
all right, let's alternate morning. So yesterday morning, I had
the kids until Nana am. This morning, Joanna had him
tell Nanna and I slept in and tomorrow we're going
to both wake up and get them. So it's I
think it's a good way because you and I never
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sleep in, so it's a good way to tackle it.
So we're both not worn out come you know, mid
afternoon and we're just the kids are already driving both
of us nuts. The other one can kind of take
over that hasn't had them, you know all morning. I
told Mike this other day though, I was like, I
kind of have enjoyed all the time that we've spent
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with them, and just as the family, it's been so nice.
I mean, yes, there's been times where it's been challenging
in Jason's whiney and Julie's you know, being whinny too,
but it's I've loved every second of it. I truly have.
It's been a really nice time to just chill. Now.
For my personality, it's been tough, like anxiety wise, but
you know, I'm dealing with it. So but I again,
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I think just to go back to your point with
Easton and Allison, it's just about and everyone else out
there that are working from home and your and your peeps.
It's just to ask for what you need, ask your
partner what they need, and um, just cut the mind reading,
because when you're stuck inside a house, there's gonna be
some major arguments happening if you guys don't communicate. Well yeah,
and even down to I mean, you guys have heard
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us talk about this a lot about especially in our relationship,
me verbalizing ME time. So not just disappearing and going
into another room and you're watching TV and your significant
others like, oh okay, you're gonna help out with dinner
or you're just gonna disappear and do your thing, you know.
So for us to be like, hey I need an hour,
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Hey tonight, you know what, I just want to go
upstairs and do something for me whatever it may be.
That way, it's because we spend all day together. Let's
not expect that we're going to spend every minute of
the entire day together. So does that mean you don't
want to watch a movie with me tonight? The New
Vies Moatherspoon, Gerry Washington. Maybe tomorrow night? All right, Um,
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our guest is about to call in, so um take
another break. Alright, guys, as we said earlier, we have
a special guest on here. She's actually Health Magazine's medical
editor and contributor on the Today Show, and she is
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Dr Raj Dr Raji. There. I am hi, guys, Hi,
nice to talk to you again. I'm doing all right
here in New York City. So it's a little bit
crazy over here. How is everything in New York right now? Um?
It's kind of surreal. You know, this is a city
that is usually always buzzing, and it's definitely a lot
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quieter than usual. Um. And then of course I work
at n y U and you know, so a lot
of a lot of things going on right now, um,
dealing with patients and preparing for a lot more to come.
So it's a bit of a crazy time, but we're
all trying to keep calm and just do our job.
What is your thoughts on how long? Um this? You know,
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the school closure is in? How long? Um? This pan?
I don't want to say a pandemic. Pandemic is gonnas
gonna last? Well? I think that, Uh, it's not an
easy question to answer, but I think most people agree
it's going to be at least a couple of months, um,
And it could be longer. I think what everyone needs
to understand is, you know, we are going to see large,
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large numbers of people getting very sick. And it's not
the majority of people who are infected that are going
to get very sick. It's still the minority, but it's
still gonna be enough people that it's going to be
overwhelming to the hospital. So what we can do, UM
as younger, healthier people is really the social isolation part
that's going to help stop the spread and get those
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numbers down to a point where hopefully the hospitals can handle,
you know, the ones who do get sick. So even
if you're out there feeling like well, I'm not you
know of the age group that's really susceptible and I
feel fine, you doing your part by staying home, UM
is actually going to just help everybody, UM, the hospitals,
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people who are more prone to getting sick. And and
remember if the hospital hospitals are overwhelmed with COVID nineteen,
that means they're not able to treat just the regular
things that anybody can get. You know, they fall off
their bike and they get a broken arm. You know,
we're all going to be suffering if our hospitals are overwhelmed,
so it's really in everyone's best interest to really adhere
to these social distancing UM kind of rules and advice.
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And we can definitely talk about how we should be
doing that at home and what's the healthiest way and
the safest way UM. But yeah, that's my little plug
for staying at home and flattening the curve as much
as we can. I mean that, I guess when you know,
when you say a couple of months, in my mind,
I'm like, okay, well I look at China and they
have no new cases that just came through, and so
that's been that. That was like, you know, two months.
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So I mean I guess you know, from from the
time it came that would be pretty much on part
then to what you said. Yeah, I mean that's very encouraging.
What what we just what we're seeing, you know, really
today and yesterday coming out of China, UM. But we
do have to understand that this is not China, and
they were extremely aggressive to a point that we probably
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could not ever do in this country in terms of
really locking down people, monitoring people to a very kind
of invasive and intrusive degree that I'm not sure we
would allow in this country. So while they had what
looks like pretty dramatic results, I don't know that we
can really look at that and say, well, oh they're
done in two months, that means we'll be done in
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two months. Um. You know, I don't want people to
get a little too comfortable. Of course, we should look
for hope where we can find it, but we shouldn't
kind of make the assumption that everything's going to go
the same way that it didn't China. That brings me
to a question I have you know, from your medical
expertise and professionalism, do you think that we as a
country have taken Are we being you know, proactive in
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our prevention of this? Are we a little late behind
some of the decision making or right on time with
some of the decision making a close certain things down,
or like how do you feel about it? Um? Yeah,
I mean I think that we. I think most people
agree at this point we were late in testing and
getting available testing to the degree that we should have
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had it earlier on, because I think if we had
that earlier on, we would have been made some of
those decisions about closures sooner as well, because we would
have more information about the numbers involved. So I mean
that was in the past. It wasn't great, but it's
over now and now we have to deal with what's
going on now. And the good news is testing has
increased a lot recently, in very recent days, UM, and
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so we'll get a clearer picture of what the true
situation is. But yeah, you know, it was an ideal
the way it was handled in the very beginning, But
now I think, UM, people understand the gravity of what's
happening on the highest level and are really acting on that.
And again, you know what what an individual can do.
You know, you're not going to be to get tests
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sooner or a cure sooner. I'm not, you know, even
in what I do day to day, But there are
things that you and I can do in our own
lives that will help. UM, if we all do it
will help shorten the duration and you know, less people
will get really sick. And and can you just say
a few of those things for our listeners. Yeah, well,
I think one of the things is this whole idea
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of staying at home, UM and how you do that effectively.
So right now we really are everyone is encouraged if
they can work from home to do that, UM to
really stay at home as much as possible. But the
question arises, what do you do if you feel sick
and you know you live with other people and these
are you know, even just a regular cold that you
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might not be sure if it is just a cold
or something more. For me, I have the issue if
I'm going to work every day in a medical center,
then I go home to my kids and I don't want,
you know, I don't know if I'm going to be
exposing them because the incubation period for this COVID nineteen
could be even up to fourteen days. Is so, how
do you kind of within your own home keep everybody safe?
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And I think there are a few things to keep
in mind for that. UM One is certainly, if you're
feeling sick, you want to stay within your own room,
kind of have your own designated room and perfecably your
own bathroom. Now that's not always possible, depending on the
living situation, but if you are sharing any type of rooms,
specifically a bathroom, you want to be very mindful of
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how you're cleaning in and right now, it seems that
bleach is a very Bleach Solutions diluted bleach, which is
in a lot of disinfectants out there, um is the
most effective way to kill the virus. So you want
to be cleaning your surfaces frequently with a bleach type
of detergent or solution. UM. You want to be careful
of all the things that you're touching that other people
may be touching. So of course you're not gonna share
(23:48):
a toothbrush with anyone. But I I came across UM
Hello Products just launched these toothpaste tablets. So these are
individual you toothpaste tablets that you can just chew and
use your own. That way, you're not touching a toothpaste
tube with anyone else. I bring mind to work as well,
but little things like that being mindful of, you know,
not touching surfaces or objects that other family members may
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be touching as well. UM And you know, preferably you
don't want to be going out much, but of course
you may be ordering food and don't worry that, you know,
the thirty second handoff from the delivery guy. You know.
I do want people to realize that usually to get infected,
it's a more prolonged exposure, it's not such a short one.
So but anytime you're interacting with someone from the outside world,
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you want to wash your hands very well. We know
now that the virus can survive on hard surfaces, um
for a few days, if not up to even seven
days some people are saying, but most people say about
three or four. So just be mindful that, you know,
you want to be frequently cleaning, disinfecting the hard surfaces,
and just being mindful of kind of who you're surrounding
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yourself with. So first of all, love all of that. Um.
I've really this has been kind of great for me
because I've always been a hand sanitizer user, but now
I'm really learning how to wash my hands, so this
has been This has been great. I'm finally washing my
hands with soap like a big girl, So that's that's huge. Um.
I know I've talked about it before on the podcast
about like the flu versus corona, and you know how
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I understand the coronavirus spreads quicker than the flu, I
think is what I've heard. But I just when I
look at numbers and like, wow, like the flu has
killed so many more people. So that's where I kind
of get a little bit confused with you know, wy are,
and they're more precautions taken with the flu. Yeah, no,
it's a good question, and I think a lot of
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people don't realize how deadly the flu can be. And
that's why, you know, people like me and doctors are
always thinking, get your flu shot, get your flu shot, because, yeah,
the flu affects so many people and actually kills a
lot of people in this country every year. Now with
the coronavirus or COVID nineteen UM, there are a few differences.
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It is. It seems to be more contages, which is
obviously not great, and it is even compared to the flu,
more deadly. So that means that if a huge section
of our population gets the COVID nineteen as is what
happens with the flu every year, we will see more
debts to that due to that than we would generally
see due to the flu. So it is actually more deadly.
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It's just that it hasn't spread to that extent yet
the way the flu does, UM, So we kind of
have to wait and see kind of what happens and
the progression of that. Hopefully it's not going to but
some people are expecting, you know, that forty of our
population will get COVID nineteen and because it has a
higher death rate than we are going to see a
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lot more debts. But rather than focus on that, I
do have a question with that though. I know they
say a lot of them you know, older like our
parents and grandparents and stuff. But I was on the
phone actually their day with microlfriend Shawn Johnson, and she
was saying that her her friends, you know, as an
e R doctor, and she was saying, there's actually a
few cases, um, you know, of twenty thirty year olds
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that have had not had pre existing you know, conditions
that are on ventilators. Yeah, that's a great point. I
think this is one of the things we have to understand,
is we this is a new virus. You know that.
In fact, that's part of the name of the novel coronavirus.
We're still learning about it, and I think up until honestly,
just a few days ago, most of us and most
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of the experts were saying this is something that really
affects the elderly much much more. Young healthy people generally
won't get very sick. Um recently, just as your friend said,
and a lot of hospitals are seeing young people that
are healthy getting sick, still not to the degree as
the elderly or people with medical conditions, but um, you know,
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one report said that about of the hospital admissions now
are in people that are younger. So this is just
one number one evidence that we're still learning about this
virus and we don't have all the answer and some
of those answers are going to change as we understand
more about it and just have more data and more evidence. Um.
But the other thing is that everyone has to be careful,
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and not just out of altruism for those who are older,
but for yourself as well, because it does look like now,
just in the last few days, it's looking like we
weren't right about that that yes, elderly are more prone
to get sick, but young people can get sick too,
And a lot of people have been asking me, well,
you know, what can we do in terms of boosting
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our immune system and and you know, at this time,
it's not like there's any particular supplements that's been shown
to help, or any any drugs that people can just
take on their own. Um, but I do strongly believe
that the lifestyle that you're leading and the diet that
you're consuming does affect your immune system. So how much
sleep you're getting, UM, if you're able to stay active daily,
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I think that does wonders for immune system. Also what
you're eating. You know, there are certain foods that we
know have UM antiox ant and immune boosting properties. I
think that probiotics are a great way to boost your
men systems. So those are the healthy bacteria that you
can get, yogurt and kimshi. There's a nut called Barucas,
which is this new highly antioxidant containing nut that's lower
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in fat but high end protein and has some great
you know, micronutrients and magnesium. They're actually for kind of
this whole Corona thing running a promotion where if you
do health nut they'll give you a discount. Um. But
there are a lot of ways you can boost your
diet to really help ward off UM, getting any kind
of infection. And you know, no one's saying it's going
to prevent you, and you still have to do all
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the other precautions, but really taking care of yourself at
a time like this, and even managing stress, which a
lot of us are experiencing extreme stress right now. UM,
that can depress your immune system. So the way you
manage that whether it's yoga or deep breathing or journaling,
anything you can do that's going to be kind of
your best defense right now. Yeah, that's It's funny. I
was feeling that they're I'm like, oh, man, I you know,
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I started to have like a little bit of a
sore throat and a headache, and I was just, you know,
thinking to myself, I'm like, I think I'm stressing myself
out and I'm getting sick because I'm so stressed. Right,
you're absolutely right. Yeah. I mean when you're stressed and
you're not sleeping, then your body is just primed to
get sick. So you don't want to be in that position.
I saw a study UM on CNN that they said that, um,
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they actually have injected people with a potential um COVID
nineteen shot. Is that true? Yes, So they are trying
to develop a vaccine and they're actually starting trials on
giving it to people to see if it's going to work. Um. However,
it's important to just point out that any actual commercially
available approved vaccine isn't going to be here for at
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least another Most people are saying twelve to eighteen months,
So that's definitely not a short term solution, but um,
it is something that needs to be worked on, and
as is being actively worked on. And the same thing
with treatments. You know, um it takes a long time
to approve any sort of drug for anything in this country,
but that process is being kind of fast tracked and shortened,
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and there are many people working on many potential treatments.
Um really, you know, in hopes of finding some sort
of cure, because as I said, the numbers are going
to be so large that anything we can do to
treat people so that they're not in the hospital or
they're not in the hospital for many days, would really
be a huge, huge help. Let me ask you one
more question, Dr Rodd before we let you go. And
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you know, for everyone being cooped up in quarantine and
trying to do their due diligence, is it irresponsible if
people are like, hey, you know, we have our close friends.
It's two of them and they're one kid. Let's have
them over for dinner just to have some human interaction.
But everyone's conscious about washing hands and what they touched
and all that. Is that irresponsible to do or is
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it still okay as long as you are make sure
you're you're practicing those healthy habits. I think that's a
really good question, and that's something that I have asked myself, UM,
and many people have asked me to because you're right.
I mean, as I said, this could be going on
for at least a couple of months, and it is very,
very difficult to feel totally socially isolated for that long.
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And as much as we love our families, you know,
if there's the only people who are going to see
for two months, we might I'll go a little batty.
So UM, I think my answer would be this right now.
The recommendation, UM is you know, trying not to gather
more than groups more than ten people. When you're under
ten people, I think you just have to really carefully
think about who were those people you're inviting over and
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what have they been doing for the last couple of weeks. So,
for example, me, someone who's going to work every day
in a hospital, I'm probably not the person you want
to invite over, you know, even with the best of intentions. Well,
I appreciate that I'll come your skype or something, but
you know, you really want to if it's your friend,
your close friends who you know they're they've been working
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from home. You know, they've been very diligent about really
not going out much. There's their kids are not going
on you know, play dates every other day with different kids.
They're not going to the playground. If you know the
people well and you kind of trust that they've been
as diligent as you have been, I think it's okay,
I really do. And then yeah, you wash your hands
and you're careful and um. But the problem is when
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you start inviting people that maybe you don't know what
they're up to, or they say, oh, can I bring
a friend and you know, and it's really just um,
knowing where the people, what they've been up to the
last couple of weeks, and and what kind of risk
you want to take their makes total sense. I appreciate
that well, Dr Dr Ross, thank you so much for
your time. And again, you know, we know that you
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recently co found a two skin care line as well,
so can you tell our listeners a little bit about
that in order to find you Yeah, yeah, and thank you.
You know, this is for a lot of business is
not an easy time, so I appreciate, uh the opportunity
to tell you about two Law which is my probiotics
skin care line. So I was telling you how much
I love probiotics and healthy bacteria. They're great for your
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overall health. They're also great when they're topically applied onto
your skin. And so that's why I founded Tula about
six years ago, and probiotics is the foundation of the line.
It's in every product, and it's great for so many things,
anti aging, for sensitive skin, for acting a prone skin.
We're on Tula dot com and we're at Alta as well.
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Alta unfortunately has temporarily closed, but Alta dot Com is there,
and it's a great time to stay home and do
a lot of self care and take care of your skin.
So so give it a try. Absolutely, Thank you so much.
Dr J really appreciate it. Thank you. I hope you
both stay well all right, YouTube, thank you. I'm starting
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to freak out that with the thing is that where
you're getting quiet over there, because I start looking over
Regina and she just kind of has that look. Well,
because I did. I heard that on Good Morning America
that it's now like twenties and thirties year olds actually
you know, getting their un ventilators and really sick. They
didn't have pre existing conditions. So I'm starting to freak
myself out. Sean and I the other day we're like,
(35:08):
oh my god, can I not breathe? Like because it's
just it's scary to think about. So I don't want
anyone coming over here that's not you know if Yeah,
I just I want us to be like so incredibly
careful because, like she said, these people are going to
get the coronavirus. It's scary, that's crazy. So I think
we have to make sure that this. You know, we
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do our part by staying in and not letting people in.
Hey Eastern do um? Well, First of all, a lot
of people ask me, what's the email again for them
to write in. That's wine Down at I heeart radio
dot com. So if you have any burning questions for me,
Mike Easton, Mark Tory, whoever, it's a wine Down at
(35:50):
I Heart radio dot com. Eastn Do we have any
emails right now? We do. We have a couple of
anonymous ones, which which are always fun. So anonymous here go,
here's a here's the first one. Um uh, this person says,
uh so ironic that after your Dallas Winddowns show, we
ended up going out and I was lucky to meet
this gem of a guy. It's been great ever since.
(36:12):
So I'll forever thank you for keeping us in Texas
that weekend longer than we were supposed to. It was
kind of faith that we met, and if we get married,
you and might can be officiants. My question is we
had a deep conversation about faith last night. He said
to me, I'm not sure how you feel, but it
makes me religious and spiritual knowing that God was always
there and having someone to lean on and talk to.
I definitely talked to him all day every day, and
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I said, I also need that same belief and whomever
my significant other will be, it's so important to me.
My views are totally the opposite. Not that his views
are bad. I just don't have a relationship with God
at all like he does, nor have I read a
Bible or gone to church that much. We talked through
it and worked it out, but I'm just nervous and
putting all this effort into a long distance thing, and
that will always be above our head. I'm even thinking
(36:53):
way down the line of kids get involved too. I'm
just curious of y'all's thoughts and perspective. I think you
need to take a breath. I think you're getting a
little ahead of yourself. But at the same time, the
same little astract is you're not too because those are
all really important things to think about. Um, don't feel
for me personally, don't feel like, oh my gosh, like
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because you've never read a Bible. Just because you haven't
read a Bible doesn't mean that you know you're not
a religious person. I've never read the Bible, but I
still go to church. And even when I didn't wasn't
going to church a lot, I still had my religious
beliefs and I had faith and I believed in God.
So I think everyone just has a different journey with that,
and everyone just kind of progresses at different times and
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has strong relationships at different times when it comes to that.
But I think, you know, just keep I mean, how
do I say this where it's like, I you should
be thinking about those things, but also take a second
to just figure out like personality is, like do do
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you guys like each other's personality? Because it's like you're
just going to ahead of I think a two ahead
of the game. Um, yes and no, Because if that's
why I said yes and no, because I'm like, it's torn. Yeah,
but you know the fact that he's bringing up how
important God is to him, that he talks to him
on a regular basis, you know, all day every day.
I think that's good on him to express the fact
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that this is very important to him. This is a
relationship that he has in his life and is value
to him, and we'll always hold value to him. So
I think it's just my only thing is be careful
not to uh adapt yourself based on someone else's belief
or what they want to do. But if it's something
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that you've always wanted to be more engaged in, lean
on him about it, even ask her, be curious about it.
It doesn't mean you have to practice the same things
he does. And don't get ahead of yourself when you
think about kids involved in all of that. Just think
about y'all's relationship and how it will affect you guys
connecting together. So again, if it's something that you're not
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against asking questions about it, lean into him about it.
Talk about your fears around why you don't do that,
or your upbringing or whatever it is. That's a great
area for y'all to really connect like on a much
deeper level than than most relationships do that early on,
So utilize that as a tool. Yeah, for sure. And
(39:23):
in a long distance it's kind of like just figure out,
you know, talk and just have those deep conversations and
see if you guys are connected on all levels. It's
good advice. Uh, let's let's do one more. This is
also from anonymous, a different anonymous. I need some communication advice.
My husband is on his phone all the time. He's
(39:44):
texting his buddies, he's looking at effing fantasy sports, or
he's on Twitter. Not only is it making me feel neglected,
but our seven month old son sees him on his
phone and has now started screaming in order to get
his attention. How do I communicate that this is a
problem for me? How do I make him hear the
when he's home? It would be nice to be both
with the baby and I if you were present. When
I try to bring it up, my husband gets defensive
(40:06):
and uses work as his excuse for always having it.
Either he needs to work or he needs to wind
down from work. What do you think I like the
wind down plug? Um? I feel like this is a
total struggle for a lot of people and I think
it's kind of like back to what we talked about
the mind reading and and coming from a good place
(40:27):
and not screaming at him and being like you're always
on your phone. He's not going to hear that. But
if you sit down with them from a good place
and say, you know, hey, maybe when you guys are
getting into bed, or when I'm not actively doing he's
not actively doing it, just be like, hey, I just
want to express a feeling and and then talk to
him about it. Tell him how it makes you feel,
tell him that it makes you feel sad, and tell
(40:48):
him that you know you would appreciate it. If you
know you would, he'd be more mindful. I understand work
and if he has to be on his phone, but
just be more mindful, especially around the kids too. That's
definitely a trigger for me. Yeah, I think, uh, you know,
if you come to him when he's not doing it,
you express your feelings around it. But then also you're
(41:09):
you express that you're willing to uh meet in the
middle where it's like okay, hey, I know you have
a lot in your mind with work. Work keeps you
really busy, it stresses you out. Maybe when you come
home you know, you say hi to us for a
few minutes, and then you go into the room or
whatever and go sit down for thirty minutes, just you
and your phone and do what you need to do
(41:30):
and then come out and the rest of the night
you're ours. You know, just kind of meet in the
middle where you're you're not shutting him down, because as
a man, it's like we just hate to be shut downs,
Like you can't do it just feels right. I've heard
that before. So if you're able to kind of meet
in the middle and everyone get what they need, then
you know, I think that's the way to go. And
I mean, Jana and I are very conscious at with
(41:52):
the kids because we've done it where if we're up
in the playroom with the kids and they start playing
by themselves, we don't want to interrupt because it is
good for to play independently, and so maybe we get
on our phone to check an email or do something
like that. And Jolie has been like, you know, daddy,
you play with us. Like if I'm checking the weather,
checking even on my phone for a second, I'm like,
(42:12):
oh nope, phone down, gone, because I just can't handle
that that guilt, that comes with that, so it's important
with the kids talk about that early. Yeah, and again
come from a good place because the best thing to
do is do it when you're both in a good
place and he's not actively on his phone, so good luck.
All right, Well another episode down, happy quarantining and everyone,
(42:37):
please stay inside if you can, if you can, if
you can, if you can, stay inside. So this can
shorten up a little bit, so it's about all I got.
And hey, guys, email and let us know how you're
dealing with the quarantine. If you have an anxieties or fears,
let's talk about it next week. I love you, guys.
Host
Jana Kramer
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