May 10, 2021 • 50 mins
Jana is angry. Angry with the loss of her family. Angry with her situation. But she has help to get to the place when it “gets better”.
We talk to life coach Cherie Healey and hear some incredible advice to change her outlook.
And we get some insight from a psychic and a tarot card reader to find out what may be in Jana’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast.
Hey guys, welcome back to wind Down. It's uh to
trust me. Um, I just want to say thank you
so much for all the love last week. UM yeah,
I just I really appreciate it. I didn't know how
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it would be received because I was like, well, I
just cried the entire podcast. But it was really comforting
to see the messages because even people that weren't going
through my exact situation, we're able to relate in just
different ways with their own pain and their own grief.
And you guys went along with the tapping, which was
so cool, and I just appreciate it, and I appreciate
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you guys still wanting me to, you know, keep on
the show. And I'm if I'm gonna be honest, it's been.
It's been a rough week. Again. I'm I'm just waiting
for when they say it's better. Uh, But in the meantime,
it's definitely been. It's hard, and it's it's um. I
think the hardest part is when you imagine something and
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you work for something and then you're the rug kind
of gets pulled from underneath you. You're just kind of
left there on the floor kind of spinning like what like.
And so that's kind of where I think I'm at,
just the realization and then just divorce sucks. Uh, there's
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it's such a it's hard because you know, I was
in the office with one of my lawyers and you know,
they're laughing, and I'm like, this isn't funny, like you
know what, I understand they you know, they have a
million cases. I'm just one case out of probably five thousand,
you know, I mean, and it's just yeah, I'm like,
this is this is hard, and this is emotional and
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this is like I'm not laughing about this, and it's
just it sucks. And unless you're going through it, it's
just a really awful feeling and I hate it. And
then it's like I didn't want this, and that's kind
of where I keep going to. It's like I didn't
want this. I didn't want this, and so now I'm
just trying to get out of that mind frame of Okay,
I didn't want this, but now how am I going
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to get past it? And That's where I'm at now,
and that's why I'm reading so many different books um
reading right now. Lisa turkis book, it's not supposed to
be this way, and that's been helping a lot and
just realizing, Okay, this is this is it, this isn't
what I wanted. But now I have to figure out
how to get out of my slump because there is
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no going back, there is no um. Yeah, it's it's
just sad because when when you sit in those offices
it's now a business transaction. I'm like, this is my life,
this is my kids, this is my money, this is
my my livelihood, this is you know, everything that I've
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built for myself. And it's when people want to mess
with that, it's just really hard because yeah, I came
from nothing and I worked my butt off and anyways,
but I'm that's my SOB spiel for the day. But
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I think we just I think it's it's okay to
be in those spots where you go around and round
and round circles because you're gonna get out of it.
And I've gotten out of the Will you ever change?
Will you ever changed it? Did I make the right decision?
I know I made the right decision, and that's what
I can stand from in But now what I'm kind
of going around circles is when is it going to
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get easier? And it's probably not going to get easier
for a long time. So now I have to get
myself up the off the couch, find a way now
to just try to try and that's like the hardest part.
But I'm doing it. I'm trying it, and I hope
you guys are too. I'm pumped because I got Shari
Healy coming on. She's a she's just like a overall
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life coach. She's been on the show before, so hopefully
she'll be able to give me some wise words and
then after that we're going to have someone hopefully show
me that I've got something better on the way. But
before we get Charian, let's stick a break. Hi Shari, Hi, Janna, Hi,
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how are you honey? You know it's the million dollar question. Um.
Right now, I'm just kind of numb. Had had a
few good cries earlier today and a lot of anger. Um.
But yeah, I had one of those moments where I
was driving and was like, I have to pull over
because if I gotta I gotta pull over. It was
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one of those kind of kind of days right there
with you know, I've been there, right, you know that
I was mama of young kids when I filed for divorce,
And why I'm here is to tell you what it's
going to look like on the other side and how
to get there, because we have a phenomenal divorce and
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the kids have gotten through it, and I have a
lot that I wanted to give you. Yeah, I would.
I would love that because right now I have a
lot of resentment because of how things are going, and
it's making me just angry, which I think I need
to have a piece of angry because yeah, so that
way I don't get too sad knowing like or like
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did I make their right It's like no, no, like
I made the right decision. But I am starting to
feel like a little bit too much because of I
feel like someone's someone it's just take take, take, take, taking,
and it's like you already took everything, like not everything,
but you know what I'm saying, Like it's like you
took my family away from me. You took so it's
like I'm that's where I'm stuck right now and just
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being like angry. Yeah, and you need to feel that.
And I know I heard Sarah telling you that as
well and Gabby, and it's critical because I would say
where I went wrong is I went so full forced
into being there for the children and trying to create
this really good divorce. I was like, I never planned
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out getting divorced, but if I'm going to get divorced,
it's going to be the best divorce ever, which is
a great intention. But I delayed my feelings. I think
I put them off and so I had to. I
think Gabby said this to you, like, they'll still be there.
If you don't feel them now, you'll feel him later
like I did. And I think I want that you're
feeling them now. I'm glad that you are. Now. It's
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just hard because it's you know, the other day he
had asked me, He's like, hey, you know, do you
wanna do um you know, birdhouses? Like I've got the
kids because he hasn't moved into his new place. So
I let him come and see the kids obviously, and
uh and I was like yeah, sure, and I went
out there, but then I just got struck with this emotion.
I was like, this isn't real. This is like like
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I'm not ready to do this yet, you know, because
it's like I would love to have done this, but
now I'm like, I'm still mad at like I still like,
do you know what I mean? But it's like I
would love to do that, but I was like, I
don't think I'm ready. I gotta, I gotta go to
the room, like I can't. I can't do this right now?
Is that? Is that okay? So glad do you hear that?
Because yes, I know how much you want for the
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kids to not suffer from this, and you said they
didn't ask for this, they didn't deserve this. But I
want to go through with you a few like what
I would call powerful beliefs that might be guiding lights
to get you through it, because I would say that.
I remember saying I don't want to have a broken family.
I came from a broken family, my parents got divorced.
I said I'd never do this to my kids. Yeah,
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so what I learned and I feel this to be
true in my bones and especially now my kids are
almost off to college. So I've come through it. And
we got to us when they were very little. They
choose both of you, They chose you. These kids came
in to have the experience of Jana and Mike and
all that comes with that. You know, all the lessons
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that you have to learn, all the things that you're
going to go through in front of them. And what
I know is the greatest gift that we can give
our kids is to let them see us change and grow,
To let them see us be human and to be
perfectly imperfect. You know, That's what I feel like we
all are. We're all here to learn our lessons and
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for you to be showing them how to go through
pain and hurt and prioritize Mommy, to like take care
of mom and show them that they will do the
same thing. They're watching you so they will know either
I throw myself under the bus and be a martyr
like mom, or I actually take a loan time and
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I take space and I go away when I need
to feel feelings and I ask for help. Like I
loved hearing that you have all your friends coming in
and helping. It's also something I did not do. I
was like, I gotta get out of bed because I
got to be a mom and I'm gonna be a
great mom. And it was like this kind of trying
to do it in a way that I think I
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paid the price for. You'd see, like I try to
and we nested, and I'd try to be with the
kid's dad and like be nice and loving and all
of that, and then there would be like these little digs.
You know, this resentment would seek out when I least
expect it because I had processed the resentment and he
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he cheated to I mean, we have very similar experiences
where you know, I had every right to be livid
at him and take from him, you know. But here's
one of the things too, that that helped. I'm come
back to some powerful beliefs for a second. But one
thing that got me through was I said, I know
I'm going to have to lead this, but if I
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want this to turn out well for our family, I
know that's on me. And and it feels like you
could easily go, well, this happened to me, and why
do I have to take responsibility? Why do I have
to be the one? But it's also a great position
of power to be in to say I know I
can lead this family, and I know you well enough
already to know you are the super achiever of the family,
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like you have what it takes to lead this family
into a better place. You you said the other day,
I don't can't see it, and I want you to
start seeing it. I want you to just start imagining
and I can help you fill in the blanks. But like,
how great it's going to be. And I know it
may feel like a leap where you almost take that
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anger right now and be like, all right, I'm gonna
live in a gorgeous home. I'm gonna have lovers. These
kids are gonna end up so happy. I Am going
to be free and living the dream where all my
other married friends are gonna be like I wish I
had some alone time to go on trips. I'm gonna
crush my business, you know, like to start laying down
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what you want, because I know that you're at this
moment for a reason, and the more you can bring in,
almost like with your fist in the air, this is
what I'm going to have. I don't know how and
I don't know when, but this is where I'm leading
this family to a really joyful, beautiful What I said
to my kids is we're going to be family forever,
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but we're gonna have two houses, and eventually there's going
to be even more love around because they'll be even
more people around you to love on those kids, and
you have to get you there. What will be in
my darkest hours the highest value that will that will
help me get there? So you choose, in every hard
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decision and in every alone moment, what is the thing
that I cling to? Like, for me, it was peace
at all costs. I wanted peace, and I in every
hard conversation and argument, I would choose peace, which now
looking back, I don't even know that that was the best.
It got us a peaceful divorce, for sure, but it
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made me compromise some things. So I don't know as
I say this, what might come up as the thing
that you cling to. Because it only takes one person
to set the tone for the family. Yeah, so if
you want the tone to be love, if you want
the salt to be really loving, I do. I hear that,
and that's what I do want, and I know that
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I I can. I think I'm just still in the
space of I just fear that I'm gonna I'm gonna
resent him for the rest of my life for breaking
up our family. And I don't that sound that seems
so heavy to carry? It is heavy, and I will
not let you carry it because over time you will
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be able to it won't be possible because you're you're
already such a creator and you already have such big
dreams and visions for yourself, it will be impossible to
drag that thing along. But I'll tell you the exit,
like the escape hatch for that, and you can. It
might drop in now, it might be something that you
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hold for a while, but here's another belief that you
can carry, that that you came together for a reason,
the two of you and your blueprint for what success
looked like was we're together forever, we have a happily
family forever. I had the same thing. But it could
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be that because you're such an achiever, whatever karma you
had to work out, whatever lesson you were supposed to
learn together, you knocked it out of the park early.
You already did what you came together to do, and
you're on such a path of self growth. It could
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be that you just moved so quickly through what your
souls came here to experience that you're over early. And
there's this formula for happiness that says, whatever my blueprint
is for life has to line up with my life,
like whatever I expect has to be reality. And when
they're out of balance and they don't equal each other,
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then you're in unhappiness. And if there don't equal each other,
if you thought you were supposed to be together forever
and now you're not, and you feel helpless to change
that for the rest of your life, then you're bound
for suffering. You're not just unhappy, you're suffering because you're
you're disempowered. You can't do anything about it. Family is broken,
You're supposed to stay together forever, and that is going
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to just lead to long days of suffering, which I'm
not all about. I think life is short, and I
think we're supposed to be here to do and do
this thing. So you could say to bring those back
into balance, to find happiness again and freedom to create
family that you want. That maybe my blueprint is, Yeah,
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we probably came together for a really big reason, and
if I find out what that reason is, then it
would make sense that we're not together anymore. And I
think there's a blessing in this. It may not be
parent right now. I used to be so goddamn mad
at the kid's dad that I was like, I never
want to see you again. I can't believe we have
kids together and I have to see you all the time.
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But I know what the blessed thing is. Yeah, I
would not be the woman that I am right now
if I hadn't gone through that with him. And I
see the karma and my kids too, that my daughter's
working out stuff with him, my son's working out stuff
with him, he's becoming a better man. It's it's kind
of mind blowing how much we've all learned together going
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through this. So I dig for what's the good reason
that you two came together in the first place, and
what would be the good reason that you're not together anymore?
And how's it going to serve the kids, Because the
only way to really hurt them is to be really
unkind to each other in front of them, to like
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go through some really horrible, knockdown, drag out awful talking
about each other in front of them, which you wouldn't.
And the greatest gift that we can give them as
mamas is to be happy and good to ourselves. And
I want that they see a model for healthy, happy love,
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like a really that both of you have really healthy
relationships out of this, that they could learn what love
looks like. Because I heard you say about staying together
for the kids, which so many people do, and then
their kids grow up in that sort of toxic energy
that you think you're acting like really great and not
showing them, but they feel it more than we could
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possibly know, and they're marinating in that, and they know
something's off with mom and dad, and then they take
on the responsibility for your unhappiness. They think it's because
of that. Yeah, I think and I know, and I
definitely feel that. I mean, there's they I'm sure they
felt the tension when we have arguments and stuff, and
I know that's the outcome, and they're the greatest thing
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that's ever happened that, you know. I just like my
mom always said, my parents got divorced, Like she was like,
we were just meant to have you guys, And you know,
I and I do know that. I think it's just
this I imagine, this healthy change of what I was
like promised. So that's the part, because I don't think
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it was ever you know, I was always you know,
I dreamed, I was dreaming that it was always something
that it wasn't. And so I don't even know if
that other that image is actually real, but it's what
was real in my in my dreams. You know, it's
real that I made it up that it was this
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happy family, And I think that that's what's that's what
I'm losing, is that idea of what I dreamt and
prayed and fought for. Yeah. I remember once saying to
a friend that we had to move after this divorce
and that my blueprint for being a great mom was
to provide them a house that they would grow up
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in until college. One home. And he said to me, well, Sari,
we know that people who do the best in life
for the ones who can handle the most uncertainty, people
who like grew would change. So do you really think
that's the blueprint for being a great mom? Giving them
only one home, never having them be challenged or move
around or deal with change. And I just that blew
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my mind because I thought, no, that's actually true. Anybody
interesting in my life that I would want to be
friends with has been through some kind of hell. You
know that shapes us. And so I think, when you
have those fights, you're going to teach them how to fight.
You're going to teach them how to talk about emotions.
You're gonna say, Mom, Dad are really having a hard day,
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And this is how mom feels, this is how I
feel right now, and model for them what it is
to go through hard times. And maybe you're expanding your
definition of what family looks like. So what are the
three five things that I can do right now in
this kind of you know, the next ninety days of
kind of crisis? Yeah, okay, I want you to figure
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out what the good reason was for marrying Mike, for
you two being together, the kids, and what was the blessing? Okay, right?
And so what's then also the good reason for coming apart?
The kids? Okay, because they chose you too. And you
don't know exactly what's going to come of all this,
but you're all learning exactly what you're here to learn.
I don't think that you would have come to this
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moment if you weren't supposed to. And I also think
if you rest in this. I spoke to a spiritual
cher when I was deciding whether or not to pull
the trigger on my marriage, and he said, in the
tantra in the old, old, old ancient texts, there's a
there's a rule that if you're going to endeavor to
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do anything in life, your likelihood for success needs to
be high. Otherwise that endeavor could be your undoing. And
I think the thing that caused you to finally say
we're done is because you knew that that dream, the
likelihood for success of actually realizing what you knew you
could have with him was too too low, because to
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try and stay in it and keep going for it
like that was going to undo you kill me. I think.
I think because I heard about how you were constantly
watching and trying to, you know, be on guard and
man your boundaries. So so the next thing would be
to write just right, like a divine contract, this is
what's coming from my family. I am going to declare
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this vision your visionary. You created this business out of nothing,
You had an idea for a podcast, look at it.
You can do the same thing with the family. This
is what it's gonna look like. I'm not into doing
the birdoses right now, but I will, you know, and
we'll do holidays together. Or I know you're scared about
letting them go on overnight, so if they're too little,
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say no, say I'm gonna do the nesting thing, or
we're gonna do or we're gonna move and the kids
are going to stay. I'm not going to let them
go overnight until I'm ready. You are in charge of
setting up what's in the highest best interest for the kids.
So write the vision, see it in living color as
often as possible, like you're dreaming, because you're a dreamer,
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So work with that's already a strength of yours. I
would also choose that highest value, if it's love, and
ask yourself with every hard moment, what would love do?
What would be loving? And in the moment, what would
be love is taking care of me? Because I'm really
resentful right now, and I'm not going to put myself
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on the back burner, you know, until I'm ready to
be doing all these things. Um. I think energy clearings
would be really helpful. I know you talked to Gabby
about doing E F T and E M d R,
and I would have said, M d R, you're already
doing it, so I would get a really good and
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I can give you some names and numbers of really
really good energy clearing people who do energy clearings, because
at that level of your being where there's still trauma
and there's entanglement and there's lessons to be learned and
contracts and vows, you can let somebody do the heavy
lifting on that stuff for you. It will speed up
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the journey. All right, sure, thank you so much for
coming on. I know you just helped a lot of people,
including me, so thank you. And can I have you
come back in a couple of episodes please? Absolutely as more. Okay,
all right, thanks you. I appreciate you. Okay, appreciate you.
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All right, let's take a break and then I think
it's time for a second greeting. All right, so we're
gonna bring Chris Medina in, who is a psychic and
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I'm so nervous what I'm excited. Um. He has a
podcast called in your Head and you can also go
to Chris Medina dot guide for more information on him.
All right, Chris, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah,
I just I'll let you do your thing. Thank you
so much for having me on. Is this your first
psychic reeting? No, it's not. I've had a few, not
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like today, but yeah, I've had a few in the past.
Whenever I have crisis, I'm always like, I need a psychic.
Let's do it. I'm to give you my quick little
spiel and then we're going to jump right into it. Okay, okay,
So just to let you know before you answer this question.
I do not discuss death and I do not discuss
anything that's going to scare the s out of you.
Why that's what I need? Well, I'm gonna shake you up,
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but I'm not going to scare you. I'm not going
to manipulate you're doing to being horrible to you. Okay, okay. Thanks.
The second thing is, for the first couple of minutes
of this reading, I'm gonna go in and give you
what my guides are giving me to give you directly,
and then I'll open the reading up to any questions
that you have in regards as to what I said,
or if you want to know about something that we
didn't get a chance to touch on, we could do
it at that time. Does that work? Yes? Perfect? And
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then the final final thing is your time is very
important and expensive to me. I want you to feel
free to jump in at any time to call bullshit.
Do not do not worry about trying to be polite,
not wanting to hurt my feelings, none of that. If
it doesn't resonate with you, or if it sounds off,
let me know. When I do hit stuff, simply confirm yes,
but do not give me any additional details, okay, okay,
And you haven't like googled, looked up and you know,
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looked into family history. Do you have a grandfather that died? Yeah? Yeah,
you know there's an old man that's coming to me
right now, that's pass from the other side. All everything
that I have for you, I'm gonna try to stay
away from the medium stuff because I don't have anything
to bring in from that. So I'm just gonna do
everything psychically. Okay, okay, cool, here we go. Okay, alright,
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my love, So let me please your mind, especially your mind,
and let you know that I have nothing negative to
give you. Your guides, angels, messengers, whatever is that you
choose to call them, are trying to bring clarity and
strength to you. And I know that you're gonna laugh
at that. I know you know what needs to be
done here. But your soul, your essence, your presence, what
makes you you, is very very strong. You're just obviously
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at a weak moment right now. But when it comes
to you again, I think people, I think people have
the misperception of you as being like um naive or
you know, um, why did you let this happen? And
kind of put all the blame on you and all
this other ship. I feel like with you when it
comes to your way of thinking and it comes to
the relationship at that you've gone through here, you're pretty
much right or die? Does that make sense? Like you're
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kind of you're gonna You're gonna go above and beyond,
and you're also going to turn over every single rock
to make sure there's nothing underneath it. Because the last
thing that Janna wants is is to have questions in
her mind? Does that make sense to have to think
could I have done this? Could I have done that?
Or blah blah blah, whatever the case may be. So
you handle your process in a way that works for you.
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Does that make sense? And so? And here's another thing
what I love about you two is that you for
all for for how you come across. I don't, to
be honest with I don't know too much about you.
I noticed a little bit about what I've heard and
all that, all the big stuff, but I don't know
really much about your character other than when I pick
up psychically and with you. I think that you're very perceptive.
I think that you're very very intuitive, and I think
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that your everyday way of thinking gets in the way
of your intuition. Does that make sense, because you're very
much picking up on the intention of other people, whether
they choose to say anything or not. So what ends
up happening for you is that you pick up You
pick up on what's going on here, and if there's
any questions that that you have, of course you're going
to go and answer them. But the stuff that is
not said is what really gets on your nerves. Does
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that make sense? Yeah, I'm gonna try to say from
that does not make sense. But when it comes that,
that's That's one of the things that I think that
really gets in your way here is again is having
this insane amount of intuition being told one thing and
then doing another thing. Then with you, I feel like,
again this is very much the healing phase. I don't
think that you've actually gone through that yet. I think
that you're still sitting. With all due respect, this is
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not a shot at you. I think that you're still
sitting on your pity pot right now and you're absorbing
everything that's going But that's a good thing, though. Don't
get off that. Don't get off that too soon. Sit
there and take all the time that you need to
forget about what everybody's telling you. Oh girl, you know,
be strong, do this whatever, take whatever downtime that you
need to heal, because with you, you're very much once
once it starts hitting the fan, you immediately want to
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crawl and tell me if this is wrong, feel free
to jump in here. But you immediately want to crawl
into bed and kind of like wait till everything's done
and over with? Does that make sense? Like kind of
like you know, I just I need time to think,
any time to absorb. So with you again, sit on
that pitypot, do what you need, go through the healing
that you need in order for you to feel better.
But here's the thing, though, with all that being said,
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all the stuff that your mind is doing to you,
as far as like playing tricks on you, and you
know and kind of like enticing you and irritating you,
would do it all that stuff here, I think that
your biggest hurdle here in the biggest thing that that
gets in your way here is that you want this
person to feel the same way that you feel. And
I'm just gonna put it out there. I think that's
impossible because if that if that was the case that
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would have never been done to you in the first place.
M How do you feel about that? Makes sense? And
I also think that again, I'm not I'm not gonna
throw anybody under the bus. I'm not gonna, um, you know,
pick sides or anything like that. But I also feel
like again with that intuition and that perception that you
have between the two of you guys, knowing his insecurities,
knowing his fears, knowing that this is somebody that tell
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me if this is wrong, I'm just gonna throw this
out there. I can't think for themselves. Sometimes that kind
of does what's expected of them rather than what they
truly need to be doing, and kind of just can
go with the flow. And you, because you know this
person inside and out, is kind of like what the mhm.
So that that that you know And I'm not telling
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you anything that you don't already know here, but I
feel like that's a huge problem for you, is is
doing the thinking for both you and this person? How
do you feel about that? Makes sense? If I'm gonna
tell you it's time for you know again, when you're ready,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you this in
two weeks here. But it's time to start getting mad.
It's time to start really strengthen, you know, when you're
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ready to start strengthening your mind, strengthening your core, strengthening
your character, getting up here and doing what it is
that you need to be doing because you're not done
living as far as like your life. This is just
a little bump in the road here. What ends up
happening to you again? What your guides want to bring
us that clarity and that strength, And I think that again,
tell me if this is wrong again, feel free to
call both if you need to. But I feel like
with you that you lost a little bit of your
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identity through this whole process here. And it's it's difficult
because again with you, when people talk about being in
relationships and you know, oh, you know that this person
is codependent in relationships, I question that sometimes because isn't
that person truly codependent in a relationship or is this
person Does this person shine better when they have somebody
else in their life to share things with? Does that
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make sense? So people will automatically say, you know, oh,
they're there. You know, she's very codependent in this relationship.
She can't see straight here. Well, some people need that
extra balance or that extra person there to balance and
even them out. It's not really codependent as far as
like I need you in order to live, but I
just feel better when I have that security, comfort protection
right next to me. It makes me shine better. It
makes me feel like, you know, I have everything that
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I need to move forward with. Does that make sense?
It's like how I feel like with you that that
because there's so much history and there's so much of this,
you know that stuff out of the public and people
don't really know here is the reason why you're holding
on so strong. But I also feel like, again, you
shine better when you have somebody there that could that
that could pick you up or boost you up. Because
when you're by yourself, you're very emotional. It could be
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very hard on yourself. You can do that, could have,
should have, would have in the what it and you
take yourself further down the rabbit hole than you need to.
And that's what ends up messing you up. Is that
again your mind, your mind just goes to those dark
places sometimes and it's difficult for you to get up
or to focus. How do you feel about all this? Yeah,
and all makes sense. So when I talk about your
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guides coming in here, I know that's such a weird
thing to say. I never used to say guides until
people started asking me who's they? So we're just gonna
say guides for lack of a better word. How do
you feel when I bring in your intuition and your
everyday way of thinking? I mean, I definitely hear that
because I I feel like I have a really good
gut and intuition, like I I it's like I know,
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but I always like wait for proof. But I just
need to start listening to that more and then knowing that.
I like the clarity thing just because I keep asking
for clarity, um, and I just I know it's there.
I just need to feel it. But what ends up
happening about how about when I tell you that you
pick up on the intention of other people? Again, I
don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but you
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know this person like the back of your hand. You
know this person like nobody else does. So when I
talk about the intention and also you know, um, picking
up on what's going on, what's going on behind the scenes,
how do you feel about that as well? Because I
feel like again that also adds to your intuition. That
also adds to that level of stress or anxiety that
you get. Yeah, for sure, I mean I definitely have Yeah,
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I I take I take that on and I don't
want to take that on anymore. But I definitely it's frustrating.
For sure. That's one of your biggest lessons here. Again,
I hate to dip into the past life and bring
up past life information because again for one, for one thing,
there's no way to validate that. There's no way to
look back and look at somebody else's past life and say, oh,
this is exactly who you were here. I have the proof,
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but people like people like that. It does trigger a
lot of what's going on in this lifetime. But my
whole thing is staying present and being focused on what's
going on in this life time. However, you do have
those lessons when it comes to how you love and
how you receive love, because in relationship, relationships are huge
for you, especially in this lifetime. You're you're gonna find
your strength, your character, your identity through relationships in this lifetime.
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It's important for you. And what ends up happening again
is that I think that you have like you I'm
not gonna go I'm not gonna go as far as
to call you bipolar or have a slip personality. But
I definitely know, I know, I definitely feel like this,
this very intelligent, this very you know um knows what
needs to be done type of person. I definitely see
that with you. But I also see that shadows side
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to you, that shadows side that when nobody else is around,
the stuff that you can do to yourself, when it
comes to your way of thinking. That's where your guys
want to jump in and tell you again, Look, we've
got to figure out a way to filter this so
it's not it's not so intention so it's not so
intense and so much for you. Yeah, but when when
we talk about can I call him Mike? Sure, So
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we're talking about when I talk about him, what do
you think about when I say that he does what's
expected of him rather than what he truly wants to
be doing and sometimes can't think for himself. Yeah, I mean,
I hear that, and I wonder, you know, I mean,
now he's free to do whatever he wants. Here's the thing, though,
I'm going to be a little bit manipulative too, and
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I'm also going to be team you. Right now, here's
the thing I'm gonna I'm having difficulty saying this. I'm
just gonna throw it out there. What other woman is
going to put up with that? Well, he's gonna, he says,
he's going to change, and so the next girl gets
the changed man. You've got to want to change. First
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of all, you have to acknowledge that there's an issue
going on. And I don't believe in um not having
self control, and I don't believe in making excuses and
putting band aids on a wound where that where it
just keeps bleeding NonStop here, and this is something to
where I feel like people live behind that excuse as
far as like you know, I'm not saying that everybody
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that that that nobody suffers from from things or they
can't go through certain things, but we start living behind
that excuse and people start putting in your head, oh
it's this, it's that the reason why you are is
because of X, Y and Z. I feel like people
end up living behind that and make a bigger deal
out of it than what needs to be made out
of it. And I feel like with you that again,
with you thinking about this. You're kind of like, don't
be stupid, Like I know who you are and I
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know I know how you think, and it has to
be extremely frustrating for you because you see through that. Yeah,
but I don't. But I do not see anything negative
you're I don't see you. You know this is something
that's gonna be bothering you for the rest of your life.
I honestly feel, and again there's you can you have
the ability to change is you can do. You can
change what I'm saying moving forward here by just you know,
not doing anything about it, But I don't feel like
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that's in your character, and I definitely feel like with
you that it's gonna be. I'm gonna say probably by
summer of next year, things are going to be different
for you as far as like um feeling. Again, that's
not to take away that you know that you're not
going to be good by this coming fall here, but
by summer of next year, a total one eighty different, different,
different outlook on life, different feeling, different vibe, more confident,
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more determined to kind of get things done here. And
also too, I really feel like your kids are going
to come in and show you strength here and get
back to what matters the most, which is you and
this family that you've created. For sure, I know about
all this. I can give it to me, and I
want that that bad side of me to come out.
No I can't. I mean, I that sounds great. I
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want all that you know, and I hope, I hope
for that. I don't want to be but I want
to be alone forever, you know, So I hope that
you know there's someone out there eventually you know that
I'll But let's make it worth at this time though.
Let's let's kind of take a step back here and realize,
like I said when I told you at the very beginning,
that you're pretty much right or diet like when you
get involved in a relationship. This is the security, comfort,
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peace of mind that I'm looking for. I only want
to do this once. I don't want to date around
for dating is fundor. But right now I'm at this
age where where I want the real thing. So we
already know what it is that you have to offer,
what you bring to the table. Let's take a step
back here and see what the next person has to
offer before we jump it. See if they're up to
par with who you are and where you're I'm never
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settling ever again ever again, I'd rather be alone. Who's
to say that within the next six months that this
new look, this new you, this new vibe isn't gonna
be the come up ins that've been waiting for, because again,
you can't keep a woman like you down for very long.
You're gonna again, like I said, you're going to go
through the emotions. You're going to said on that pity pot,
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cry more, and do not let anybody tell you again
here I am giving you psychic insight, but I am
not going to push you because again I feel like
we're kind of like in the same boat your work.
We need a hot minute to get our together. We
need to go through so we need to throw things around,
we need to cry, we need to get piste off
and do what we need. We need to get that
all out. So honored, I get that all out. But
don't ever ever mistake your emotions, your sensitivity as a
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weakness here, because that's one of the best parts about you.
It reminds you that you're human. So again, when you're
ready to find your strength, let's do that us. Thanks Chris,
I appreciate you coming on, UM and I love that
you also have a podcast and do you help other
people on the podcast? Like do you do? That's so cool?
So it's called in your Head and you can listen
to that wherever or for more information, you can go
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to Chris Medina dot guide UM and it could people
sign up to get a psychic reading from you there, Yeah,
they can visit my website sign up for a half
hour session, hour long session. I just want to make this,
uh know one right out about here or out the gate.
My sessions tend to go over. I am not a clockwatcher,
so if you sign up for a half an hour reading,
be prepared to be on the phone for thirty to
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forty five minutes. Same thing with an hour and ten.
I want to make sure I get everything in your session.
You're paying the top dollar for that. Let's talk about it.
I love it, Chris. Thank you so much for coming
on and shutting some insight. I really appreciate it. You're
so my love, and please keep in touch if there's
anything I can do for you, do not ever hesitate
to reach out. Awesome, Thanks Chris, You're welcome to take
care all right. Super excited to have Seth for million
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coming on so you can get more information from coming
out Tarot dot com, um, psychic, medium, tea guardare, I'm
so excited. Dom is something good? All right? Seth, do
your thing, do me. There's there's so many ways to
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approach tarot and how it is a part of our lives,
and my favorite way to work with it is to
bring clarity, to bring confidence, and to help the person
sitting across from me you today to have a more
enriching life and work through whatever transformation it is that
you might be going through today. And you're also you
also do psychic and is that go in with the
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psychic and medium reading too, or how does that work
that does? So some people will ask me specifically for
mediumship readings. Psychic for me has a lot of connotations,
and many people think of a psychic as someone who's
constantly clairvoyant, But psychic has all of the It's kind
of like an umbrella term that has a lot of
things underneath it, including mediumship and taro and all the
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other Claire is like Claar sentience and Claire audience, so
there's a lot of stuff that falls underneath that. For me, Uh,
the mediumship will be a tool that I use. Clar
sentience will be a tool that I use, which is
feeling something in your body. So it comes reading for
someone once and my neck got supertense and we talked
about how in their neck they've been recently diagnosed with
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a pretty severe case of arthritis. So there are there
are moments like that that happen. And then when I
use my cards, that's tapping into intuition and sometimes the
technique called scrying, which will help me see images that
may or may not be in the card, but it
might have something to do with you or may have
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something to do with me. So the the experience can
take many different skill sets to arrive at the transformation
and real the insight that you're looking for. And my
favorite way to do that is to work with you
either with a strong question something that you're focused on
right now that you're trying to get a little more
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insight on and and dig through. If you don't have
a or you don't want to ask a like a
strong question saying here's where I want to really focus,
then I'll also work in themes and it ends up
narrowing down into something specific. The same way so how
how do you have you had a tero reading before? Yeah,
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I have one, I've had before. Cool, So what has
the experience been like for you? Has it been similar
to that or different? Um, I don't know. It's one
of those where I'm like, I don't really don't believe
in it. I'm just I'm I don't know, Like, I
just I don't know. I'm not I'm not used to
used to it. Like my friends always like, you know,
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what's the intention of the day, And so she has
the tarot cards and she's but I'm like, but you
could have picked another a card and then it would
have been something else. So that's I just I go there.
Sometimes that makes complete sense to me because I do
the same exact thing, not just the intention of the day,
but the feeling of well, it could have been any card.
But that's part of the point, isn't it that that
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the these things have collided to say, here's where we
are right now in this moment, and there's so many
things that could transpire after that may divert us onto
another road. But here, in this moment, right now, this
is something that we can touch, dig deeper into, feel,
feel the the inspiration of or maybe even want to
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hold onto and say this is this is a talisman
for me, or maybe the phrase I'm going to use
to get through the day, to help me feel stronger,
more empowered, more confident as I go through all the
things that can come at me throughout the course of
the day or several months, you know, whatever might be
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most most important. So how about you, would you would
you like to focus on a question? Um, I think
just clarity and then the future. Okay, let's dick. Clarity
is pretty, Clarity is broad right, making the right choices,
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that's all right, it's a little little Yeah. I think
it's great. Every every terror reader is different. And some
people like, don't tell me anything. I don't wonder anything
about you. I don't want to hear any questions. Um.
I love to work from where you are. You've already
done a ton of work on your own to get
to where you are today. And sometimes hearing all this
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stuff you already know, people like, okay, yeah, we'll already
knew that. Help me out. Let me know where things
are headed. A confirmation is sometimes it's part of the
name of the game. Let it knows it helps me
know it helps you know that we're zero it on
something that's the right track. Yeah, it's a I heard
this thing I was reading in a book and I
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can't remember the exact term of what they use, but
it's like you have to hear something or see something
a certain amount of times before you can actually start
believing it. So I'm like, I've asked people probably fifteen times,
and I'm making the right decision and making the right decision,
and it's like when then you finally are gonna be
like it's just going to click and you're like, I
made the right decision. But sometimes you have to and
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I can't remember, I have to go back to the book.
But it was it was fascinating because I'm like, wow,
that's I do that all the time. I'm like, oh
my gosh, I took this vaccination. Am I gonna get
blood clots? And like, am I gonna be? Okay? I'm
I gonna die. It's like until I get the answer
like all the way and then I'm like, okay, now
I'm fine, I'm fine, all right? So do you want
to see these? Uh? And I can describe them as
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I pulled them up, what the cards are? Read them out. Okay,
so I like to use layout. It's not every readers
use layouts, which means there's a meeting to each position
in the card that I laid out. The first card
that I pulled, which is a current position with what
might be going on now, is the moon. And these
look a little different from what people might be familiar with.
This moon has a big unicorn on it, a gorgeous
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moon m crawda down there in the bottom, and it's
coming out of a lake and there's some some planets
that are surrounding it. The the moon for me today
and in this moment, is representing the state of everything
that is being revealed. You're you're in a position of
coming to understanding things that you didn't expect, things that
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are probably are surprise. It's like the veil is being lifted.
And as you start to understand more than just getting
it in front of me again, as you start to
understand more, I think there is a there's a path
that is still yet to be revealed. There's there's a bit,
there's a bit you don't know yet as much as
you may know at this point, there's still there's something
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hidden for me. And what's interesting I remember I was saying,
there's a scrying thing that kind of happens. I see images.
This looks like a like a This is gonna sound weird.
So I don't know if this sounds if this is
important for you or not. You know the story of
King Arthur and the Lady of the Lake. You know,
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so the King Arthur received his sword um and through
not only pulling it out of this stone, but it
was it was originally the stone upon the world by
the Lady of the Lake, this magical, mythical creature. And
what it looks like to me is this sword is
starting to come out of the lake. Uh. I'm gonna
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say this is a symbol for me because it's not
a story that you know. So the symbol for me
is there is truth about to be revealed. There's more
for you to know, to understand, and to have that
illuminated by the moon. Is is it's a secret. You
don't know this yet, so you're about to find out more.
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We itch in the case of where you you are,
I'm fascinating because I'm going to add a little bit
more to this, So hold on to that thought for
a minute. So as a result of where you are
at the moment and seeking the clarity you're looking for.
There's more information coming that's going to get you the
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clarity that you're looking for. It's going to be revealed
to you. Though it's not something you can find, chase,
or or discover on your own. Somebody's going to give
it to you. And as a result, that opens up
And this feels weird, but go with me, and maybe
it don't mean something more to you than it does
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to me. At the moment. That opens up a whole
new path of love and opportunity for you. Okay, and
I'm going to switch those words the opportunity for love
for you. But this, this revelation has to happen first.
You have to get out of the mire of uh
of where you are today. And that comes as a
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result of someone else saying, hey, here's this thing you
didn't know. Now that you know it, what are you
gonna do? And you then it's like the veil is
totally lifted. The you know, the rose colored glasses come off.
The feeling of um struggling through family and challenges around
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family moves out of the way and you're able to
see clearly where you're meant to be next? Got it?
What kind of questions does that raise for you? When? Ah, okay,
cool timing and taros. Any taro reader will probably tell
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you as a challenge because once we leave, you know,
once we're not engaged in this moment anymore, you have
free will. You can make your next choice, and then
the next reading might say something the timing has changed
because of who you ran into or or the guide
posts you you ignored, for example. So timing is relative.
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It's based on the information that we have today, though,
I just think it would be interesting to hear what
happens in thirty days. I'll let you know. I'm excited. Yeah, seriously. Um, so,
thank you so much for coming on and doing the
tarot cards with me. I appreciate it. And where could
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listeners find you? Uh, they can find me. It's psychics
one on one dot com. That's the easiest place to
work with me today. I can be found in so
many places. That is one of the places that you
can find the easiest. Okay, awesome, Thank you so much
that I really appreciate it. And I'll let you know
what happens in the next thirty All right, good, thank you.
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Thank you. Alright, guys, we did it. I promise you.
I'm going uh figure this out, and we're gonna we're
gonna keep on trucking on and next week I'll be
a little bit stronger. And so will you see you
next week By
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast.
Hey guys, welcome back to wind Down. It's uh to
trust me. Um, I just want to say thank you
so much for all the love last week. UM yeah,
I just I really appreciate it. I didn't know how
(00:25):
it would be received because I was like, well, I
just cried the entire podcast. But it was really comforting
to see the messages because even people that weren't going
through my exact situation, we're able to relate in just
different ways with their own pain and their own grief.
And you guys went along with the tapping, which was
so cool, and I just appreciate it, and I appreciate
(00:48):
you guys still wanting me to, you know, keep on
the show. And I'm if I'm gonna be honest, it's been.
It's been a rough week. Again. I'm I'm just waiting
for when they say it's better. Uh, But in the meantime,
it's definitely been. It's hard, and it's it's um. I
think the hardest part is when you imagine something and
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you work for something and then you're the rug kind
of gets pulled from underneath you. You're just kind of
left there on the floor kind of spinning like what like.
And so that's kind of where I think I'm at,
just the realization and then just divorce sucks. Uh, there's
(01:32):
it's such a it's hard because you know, I was
in the office with one of my lawyers and you know,
they're laughing, and I'm like, this isn't funny, like you
know what, I understand they you know, they have a
million cases. I'm just one case out of probably five thousand,
you know, I mean, and it's just yeah, I'm like,
this is this is hard, and this is emotional and
(01:54):
this is like I'm not laughing about this, and it's
just it sucks. And unless you're going through it, it's
just a really awful feeling and I hate it. And
then it's like I didn't want this, and that's kind
of where I keep going to. It's like I didn't
want this. I didn't want this, and so now I'm
just trying to get out of that mind frame of Okay,
I didn't want this, but now how am I going
(02:15):
to get past it? And That's where I'm at now,
and that's why I'm reading so many different books um
reading right now. Lisa turkis book, it's not supposed to
be this way, and that's been helping a lot and
just realizing, Okay, this is this is it, this isn't
what I wanted. But now I have to figure out
how to get out of my slump because there is
(02:36):
no going back, there is no um. Yeah, it's it's
just sad because when when you sit in those offices
it's now a business transaction. I'm like, this is my life,
this is my kids, this is my money, this is
my my livelihood, this is you know, everything that I've
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built for myself. And it's when people want to mess
with that, it's just really hard because yeah, I came
from nothing and I worked my butt off and anyways,
but I'm that's my SOB spiel for the day. But
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I think we just I think it's it's okay to
be in those spots where you go around and round
and round circles because you're gonna get out of it.
And I've gotten out of the Will you ever change?
Will you ever changed it? Did I make the right decision?
I know I made the right decision, and that's what
I can stand from in But now what I'm kind
of going around circles is when is it going to
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get easier? And it's probably not going to get easier
for a long time. So now I have to get
myself up the off the couch, find a way now
to just try to try and that's like the hardest part.
But I'm doing it. I'm trying it, and I hope
you guys are too. I'm pumped because I got Shari
Healy coming on. She's a she's just like a overall
(04:00):
life coach. She's been on the show before, so hopefully
she'll be able to give me some wise words and
then after that we're going to have someone hopefully show
me that I've got something better on the way. But
before we get Charian, let's stick a break. Hi Shari, Hi, Janna, Hi,
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how are you honey? You know it's the million dollar question. Um.
Right now, I'm just kind of numb. Had had a
few good cries earlier today and a lot of anger. Um.
But yeah, I had one of those moments where I
was driving and was like, I have to pull over
because if I gotta I gotta pull over. It was
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one of those kind of kind of days right there
with you know, I've been there, right, you know that
I was mama of young kids when I filed for divorce,
And why I'm here is to tell you what it's
going to look like on the other side and how
to get there, because we have a phenomenal divorce and
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the kids have gotten through it, and I have a
lot that I wanted to give you. Yeah, I would.
I would love that because right now I have a
lot of resentment because of how things are going, and
it's making me just angry, which I think I need
to have a piece of angry because yeah, so that
way I don't get too sad knowing like or like
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did I make their right It's like no, no, like
I made the right decision. But I am starting to
feel like a little bit too much because of I
feel like someone's someone it's just take take, take, take, taking,
and it's like you already took everything, like not everything,
but you know what I'm saying, Like it's like you
took my family away from me. You took so it's
like I'm that's where I'm stuck right now and just
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being like angry. Yeah, and you need to feel that.
And I know I heard Sarah telling you that as
well and Gabby, and it's critical because I would say
where I went wrong is I went so full forced
into being there for the children and trying to create
this really good divorce. I was like, I never planned
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out getting divorced, but if I'm going to get divorced,
it's going to be the best divorce ever, which is
a great intention. But I delayed my feelings. I think
I put them off and so I had to. I
think Gabby said this to you, like, they'll still be there.
If you don't feel them now, you'll feel him later
like I did. And I think I want that you're
feeling them now. I'm glad that you are. Now. It's
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just hard because it's you know, the other day he
had asked me, He's like, hey, you know, do you
wanna do um you know, birdhouses? Like I've got the
kids because he hasn't moved into his new place. So
I let him come and see the kids obviously, and
uh and I was like yeah, sure, and I went
out there, but then I just got struck with this emotion.
I was like, this isn't real. This is like like
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I'm not ready to do this yet, you know, because
it's like I would love to have done this, but
now I'm like, I'm still mad at like I still like,
do you know what I mean? But it's like I
would love to do that, but I was like, I
don't think I'm ready. I gotta, I gotta go to
the room, like I can't. I can't do this right now?
Is that? Is that okay? So glad do you hear that?
Because yes, I know how much you want for the
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kids to not suffer from this, and you said they
didn't ask for this, they didn't deserve this. But I
want to go through with you a few like what
I would call powerful beliefs that might be guiding lights
to get you through it, because I would say that.
I remember saying I don't want to have a broken family.
I came from a broken family, my parents got divorced.
I said I'd never do this to my kids. Yeah,
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so what I learned and I feel this to be
true in my bones and especially now my kids are
almost off to college. So I've come through it. And
we got to us when they were very little. They
choose both of you, They chose you. These kids came
in to have the experience of Jana and Mike and
all that comes with that. You know, all the lessons
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that you have to learn, all the things that you're
going to go through in front of them. And what
I know is the greatest gift that we can give
our kids is to let them see us change and grow,
To let them see us be human and to be
perfectly imperfect. You know, That's what I feel like we
all are. We're all here to learn our lessons and
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for you to be showing them how to go through
pain and hurt and prioritize Mommy, to like take care
of mom and show them that they will do the
same thing. They're watching you so they will know either
I throw myself under the bus and be a martyr
like mom, or I actually take a loan time and
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I take space and I go away when I need
to feel feelings and I ask for help. Like I
loved hearing that you have all your friends coming in
and helping. It's also something I did not do. I
was like, I gotta get out of bed because I
got to be a mom and I'm gonna be a
great mom. And it was like this kind of trying
to do it in a way that I think I
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paid the price for. You'd see, like I try to
and we nested, and I'd try to be with the
kid's dad and like be nice and loving and all
of that, and then there would be like these little digs.
You know, this resentment would seek out when I least
expect it because I had processed the resentment and he
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he cheated to I mean, we have very similar experiences
where you know, I had every right to be livid
at him and take from him, you know. But here's
one of the things too, that that helped. I'm come
back to some powerful beliefs for a second. But one
thing that got me through was I said, I know
I'm going to have to lead this, but if I
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want this to turn out well for our family, I
know that's on me. And and it feels like you
could easily go, well, this happened to me, and why
do I have to take responsibility? Why do I have
to be the one? But it's also a great position
of power to be in to say I know I
can lead this family, and I know you well enough
already to know you are the super achiever of the family,
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like you have what it takes to lead this family
into a better place. You you said the other day,
I don't can't see it, and I want you to
start seeing it. I want you to just start imagining
and I can help you fill in the blanks. But like,
how great it's going to be. And I know it
may feel like a leap where you almost take that
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anger right now and be like, all right, I'm gonna
live in a gorgeous home. I'm gonna have lovers. These
kids are gonna end up so happy. I Am going
to be free and living the dream where all my
other married friends are gonna be like I wish I
had some alone time to go on trips. I'm gonna
crush my business, you know, like to start laying down
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what you want, because I know that you're at this
moment for a reason, and the more you can bring in,
almost like with your fist in the air, this is
what I'm going to have. I don't know how and
I don't know when, but this is where I'm leading
this family to a really joyful, beautiful What I said
to my kids is we're going to be family forever,
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but we're gonna have two houses, and eventually there's going
to be even more love around because they'll be even
more people around you to love on those kids, and
you have to get you there. What will be in
my darkest hours the highest value that will that will
help me get there? So you choose, in every hard
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decision and in every alone moment, what is the thing
that I cling to? Like, for me, it was peace
at all costs. I wanted peace, and I in every
hard conversation and argument, I would choose peace, which now
looking back, I don't even know that that was the best.
It got us a peaceful divorce, for sure, but it
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made me compromise some things. So I don't know as
I say this, what might come up as the thing
that you cling to. Because it only takes one person
to set the tone for the family. Yeah, so if
you want the tone to be love, if you want
the salt to be really loving, I do. I hear that,
and that's what I do want, and I know that
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I I can. I think I'm just still in the
space of I just fear that I'm gonna I'm gonna
resent him for the rest of my life for breaking
up our family. And I don't that sound that seems
so heavy to carry? It is heavy, and I will
not let you carry it because over time you will
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be able to it won't be possible because you're you're
already such a creator and you already have such big
dreams and visions for yourself, it will be impossible to
drag that thing along. But I'll tell you the exit,
like the escape hatch for that, and you can. It
might drop in now, it might be something that you
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hold for a while, but here's another belief that you
can carry, that that you came together for a reason,
the two of you and your blueprint for what success
looked like was we're together forever, we have a happily
family forever. I had the same thing. But it could
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be that because you're such an achiever, whatever karma you
had to work out, whatever lesson you were supposed to
learn together, you knocked it out of the park early.
You already did what you came together to do, and
you're on such a path of self growth. It could
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be that you just moved so quickly through what your
souls came here to experience that you're over early. And
there's this formula for happiness that says, whatever my blueprint
is for life has to line up with my life,
like whatever I expect has to be reality. And when
they're out of balance and they don't equal each other,
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then you're in unhappiness. And if there don't equal each other,
if you thought you were supposed to be together forever
and now you're not, and you feel helpless to change
that for the rest of your life, then you're bound
for suffering. You're not just unhappy, you're suffering because you're
you're disempowered. You can't do anything about it. Family is broken,
You're supposed to stay together forever, and that is going
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to just lead to long days of suffering, which I'm
not all about. I think life is short, and I
think we're supposed to be here to do and do
this thing. So you could say to bring those back
into balance, to find happiness again and freedom to create
family that you want. That maybe my blueprint is, Yeah,
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we probably came together for a really big reason, and
if I find out what that reason is, then it
would make sense that we're not together anymore. And I
think there's a blessing in this. It may not be
parent right now. I used to be so goddamn mad
at the kid's dad that I was like, I never
want to see you again. I can't believe we have
kids together and I have to see you all the time.
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But I know what the blessed thing is. Yeah, I
would not be the woman that I am right now
if I hadn't gone through that with him. And I
see the karma and my kids too, that my daughter's
working out stuff with him, my son's working out stuff
with him, he's becoming a better man. It's it's kind
of mind blowing how much we've all learned together going
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through this. So I dig for what's the good reason
that you two came together in the first place, and
what would be the good reason that you're not together anymore?
And how's it going to serve the kids, Because the
only way to really hurt them is to be really
unkind to each other in front of them, to like
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go through some really horrible, knockdown, drag out awful talking
about each other in front of them, which you wouldn't.
And the greatest gift that we can give them as
mamas is to be happy and good to ourselves. And
I want that they see a model for healthy, happy love,
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like a really that both of you have really healthy
relationships out of this, that they could learn what love
looks like. Because I heard you say about staying together
for the kids, which so many people do, and then
their kids grow up in that sort of toxic energy
that you think you're acting like really great and not
showing them, but they feel it more than we could
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possibly know, and they're marinating in that, and they know
something's off with mom and dad, and then they take
on the responsibility for your unhappiness. They think it's because
of that. Yeah, I think and I know, and I
definitely feel that. I mean, there's they I'm sure they
felt the tension when we have arguments and stuff, and
I know that's the outcome, and they're the greatest thing
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that's ever happened that, you know. I just like my
mom always said, my parents got divorced, Like she was like,
we were just meant to have you guys, And you know,
I and I do know that. I think it's just
this I imagine, this healthy change of what I was
like promised. So that's the part, because I don't think
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it was ever you know, I was always you know,
I dreamed, I was dreaming that it was always something
that it wasn't. And so I don't even know if
that other that image is actually real, but it's what
was real in my in my dreams. You know, it's
real that I made it up that it was this
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happy family, And I think that that's what's that's what
I'm losing, is that idea of what I dreamt and
prayed and fought for. Yeah. I remember once saying to
a friend that we had to move after this divorce
and that my blueprint for being a great mom was
to provide them a house that they would grow up
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in until college. One home. And he said to me, well, Sari,
we know that people who do the best in life
for the ones who can handle the most uncertainty, people
who like grew would change. So do you really think
that's the blueprint for being a great mom? Giving them
only one home, never having them be challenged or move
around or deal with change. And I just that blew
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my mind because I thought, no, that's actually true. Anybody
interesting in my life that I would want to be
friends with has been through some kind of hell. You
know that shapes us. And so I think, when you
have those fights, you're going to teach them how to fight.
You're going to teach them how to talk about emotions.
You're gonna say, Mom, Dad are really having a hard day,
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And this is how mom feels, this is how I
feel right now, and model for them what it is
to go through hard times. And maybe you're expanding your
definition of what family looks like. So what are the
three five things that I can do right now in
this kind of you know, the next ninety days of
kind of crisis? Yeah, okay, I want you to figure
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out what the good reason was for marrying Mike, for
you two being together, the kids, and what was the blessing? Okay, right?
And so what's then also the good reason for coming apart?
The kids? Okay, because they chose you too. And you
don't know exactly what's going to come of all this,
but you're all learning exactly what you're here to learn.
I don't think that you would have come to this
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moment if you weren't supposed to. And I also think
if you rest in this. I spoke to a spiritual
cher when I was deciding whether or not to pull
the trigger on my marriage, and he said, in the
tantra in the old, old, old ancient texts, there's a
there's a rule that if you're going to endeavor to
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do anything in life, your likelihood for success needs to
be high. Otherwise that endeavor could be your undoing. And
I think the thing that caused you to finally say
we're done is because you knew that that dream, the
likelihood for success of actually realizing what you knew you
could have with him was too too low, because to
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try and stay in it and keep going for it
like that was going to undo you kill me. I think.
I think because I heard about how you were constantly
watching and trying to, you know, be on guard and
man your boundaries. So so the next thing would be
to write just right, like a divine contract, this is
what's coming from my family. I am going to declare
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this vision your visionary. You created this business out of nothing,
You had an idea for a podcast, look at it.
You can do the same thing with the family. This
is what it's gonna look like. I'm not into doing
the birdoses right now, but I will, you know, and
we'll do holidays together. Or I know you're scared about
letting them go on overnight, so if they're too little,
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say no, say I'm gonna do the nesting thing, or
we're gonna do or we're gonna move and the kids
are going to stay. I'm not going to let them
go overnight until I'm ready. You are in charge of
setting up what's in the highest best interest for the kids.
So write the vision, see it in living color as
often as possible, like you're dreaming, because you're a dreamer,
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So work with that's already a strength of yours. I
would also choose that highest value, if it's love, and
ask yourself with every hard moment, what would love do?
What would be loving? And in the moment, what would
be love is taking care of me? Because I'm really
resentful right now, and I'm not going to put myself
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on the back burner, you know, until I'm ready to
be doing all these things. Um. I think energy clearings
would be really helpful. I know you talked to Gabby
about doing E F T and E M d R,
and I would have said, M d R, you're already
doing it, so I would get a really good and
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I can give you some names and numbers of really
really good energy clearing people who do energy clearings, because
at that level of your being where there's still trauma
and there's entanglement and there's lessons to be learned and
contracts and vows, you can let somebody do the heavy
lifting on that stuff for you. It will speed up
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the journey. All right, sure, thank you so much for
coming on. I know you just helped a lot of people,
including me, so thank you. And can I have you
come back in a couple of episodes please? Absolutely as more. Okay,
all right, thanks you. I appreciate you. Okay, appreciate you.
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All right, let's take a break and then I think
it's time for a second greeting. All right, so we're
gonna bring Chris Medina in, who is a psychic and
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I'm so nervous what I'm excited. Um. He has a
podcast called in your Head and you can also go
to Chris Medina dot guide for more information on him.
All right, Chris, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah,
I just I'll let you do your thing. Thank you
so much for having me on. Is this your first
psychic reeting? No, it's not. I've had a few, not
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like today, but yeah, I've had a few in the past.
Whenever I have crisis, I'm always like, I need a psychic.
Let's do it. I'm to give you my quick little
spiel and then we're going to jump right into it. Okay, okay,
So just to let you know before you answer this question.
I do not discuss death and I do not discuss
anything that's going to scare the s out of you.
Why that's what I need? Well, I'm gonna shake you up,
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but I'm not going to scare you. I'm not going
to manipulate you're doing to being horrible to you. Okay, okay. Thanks.
The second thing is, for the first couple of minutes
of this reading, I'm gonna go in and give you
what my guides are giving me to give you directly,
and then I'll open the reading up to any questions
that you have in regards as to what I said,
or if you want to know about something that we
didn't get a chance to touch on, we could do
it at that time. Does that work? Yes? Perfect? And
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then the final final thing is your time is very
important and expensive to me. I want you to feel
free to jump in at any time to call bullshit.
Do not do not worry about trying to be polite,
not wanting to hurt my feelings, none of that. If
it doesn't resonate with you, or if it sounds off,
let me know. When I do hit stuff, simply confirm yes,
but do not give me any additional details, okay, okay,
And you haven't like googled, looked up and you know,
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looked into family history. Do you have a grandfather that died? Yeah? Yeah,
you know there's an old man that's coming to me
right now, that's pass from the other side. All everything
that I have for you, I'm gonna try to stay
away from the medium stuff because I don't have anything
to bring in from that. So I'm just gonna do
everything psychically. Okay, okay, cool, here we go. Okay, alright,
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my love, So let me please your mind, especially your mind,
and let you know that I have nothing negative to
give you. Your guides, angels, messengers, whatever is that you
choose to call them, are trying to bring clarity and
strength to you. And I know that you're gonna laugh
at that. I know you know what needs to be
done here. But your soul, your essence, your presence, what
makes you you, is very very strong. You're just obviously
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at a weak moment right now. But when it comes
to you again, I think people, I think people have
the misperception of you as being like um naive or
you know, um, why did you let this happen? And
kind of put all the blame on you and all
this other ship. I feel like with you when it
comes to your way of thinking and it comes to
the relationship at that you've gone through here, you're pretty
much right or die? Does that make sense? Like you're
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kind of you're gonna You're gonna go above and beyond,
and you're also going to turn over every single rock
to make sure there's nothing underneath it. Because the last
thing that Janna wants is is to have questions in
her mind? Does that make sense to have to think
could I have done this? Could I have done that?
Or blah blah blah, whatever the case may be. So
you handle your process in a way that works for you.
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Does that make sense? And so? And here's another thing
what I love about you two is that you for
all for for how you come across. I don't, to
be honest with I don't know too much about you.
I noticed a little bit about what I've heard and
all that, all the big stuff, but I don't know
really much about your character other than when I pick
up psychically and with you. I think that you're very perceptive.
I think that you're very very intuitive, and I think
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that your everyday way of thinking gets in the way
of your intuition. Does that make sense, because you're very
much picking up on the intention of other people, whether
they choose to say anything or not. So what ends
up happening for you is that you pick up You
pick up on what's going on here, and if there's
any questions that that you have, of course you're going
to go and answer them. But the stuff that is
not said is what really gets on your nerves. Does
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that make sense? Yeah, I'm gonna try to say from
that does not make sense. But when it comes that,
that's That's one of the things that I think that
really gets in your way here is again is having
this insane amount of intuition being told one thing and
then doing another thing. Then with you, I feel like,
again this is very much the healing phase. I don't
think that you've actually gone through that yet. I think
that you're still sitting. With all due respect, this is
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not a shot at you. I think that you're still
sitting on your pity pot right now and you're absorbing
everything that's going But that's a good thing, though. Don't
get off that. Don't get off that too soon. Sit
there and take all the time that you need to
forget about what everybody's telling you. Oh girl, you know,
be strong, do this whatever, take whatever downtime that you
need to heal, because with you, you're very much once
once it starts hitting the fan, you immediately want to
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crawl and tell me if this is wrong, feel free
to jump in here. But you immediately want to crawl
into bed and kind of like wait till everything's done
and over with? Does that make sense? Like kind of
like you know, I just I need time to think,
any time to absorb. So with you again, sit on
that pitypot, do what you need, go through the healing
that you need in order for you to feel better.
But here's the thing, though, with all that being said,
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all the stuff that your mind is doing to you,
as far as like playing tricks on you, and you
know and kind of like enticing you and irritating you,
would do it all that stuff here, I think that
your biggest hurdle here in the biggest thing that that
gets in your way here is that you want this
person to feel the same way that you feel. And
I'm just gonna put it out there. I think that's
impossible because if that if that was the case that
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would have never been done to you in the first place.
M How do you feel about that? Makes sense? And
I also think that again, I'm not I'm not gonna
throw anybody under the bus. I'm not gonna, um, you know,
pick sides or anything like that. But I also feel
like again with that intuition and that perception that you
have between the two of you guys, knowing his insecurities,
knowing his fears, knowing that this is somebody that tell
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me if this is wrong, I'm just gonna throw this
out there. I can't think for themselves. Sometimes that kind
of does what's expected of them rather than what they
truly need to be doing, and kind of just can
go with the flow. And you, because you know this
person inside and out, is kind of like what the mhm.
So that that that you know And I'm not telling
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you anything that you don't already know here, but I
feel like that's a huge problem for you, is is
doing the thinking for both you and this person? How
do you feel about that? Makes sense? If I'm gonna
tell you it's time for you know again, when you're ready,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you this in
two weeks here. But it's time to start getting mad.
It's time to start really strengthen, you know, when you're
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ready to start strengthening your mind, strengthening your core, strengthening
your character, getting up here and doing what it is
that you need to be doing because you're not done
living as far as like your life. This is just
a little bump in the road here. What ends up
happening to you again? What your guides want to bring
us that clarity and that strength, And I think that again,
tell me if this is wrong again, feel free to
call both if you need to. But I feel like
with you that you lost a little bit of your
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identity through this whole process here. And it's it's difficult
because again with you, when people talk about being in
relationships and you know, oh, you know that this person
is codependent in relationships, I question that sometimes because isn't
that person truly codependent in a relationship or is this
person Does this person shine better when they have somebody
else in their life to share things with? Does that
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make sense? So people will automatically say, you know, oh,
they're there. You know, she's very codependent in this relationship.
She can't see straight here. Well, some people need that
extra balance or that extra person there to balance and
even them out. It's not really codependent as far as
like I need you in order to live, but I
just feel better when I have that security, comfort protection
right next to me. It makes me shine better. It
makes me feel like, you know, I have everything that
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I need to move forward with. Does that make sense?
It's like how I feel like with you that that
because there's so much history and there's so much of this,
you know that stuff out of the public and people
don't really know here is the reason why you're holding
on so strong. But I also feel like, again, you
shine better when you have somebody there that could that
that could pick you up or boost you up. Because
when you're by yourself, you're very emotional. It could be
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very hard on yourself. You can do that, could have,
should have, would have in the what it and you
take yourself further down the rabbit hole than you need to.
And that's what ends up messing you up. Is that
again your mind, your mind just goes to those dark
places sometimes and it's difficult for you to get up
or to focus. How do you feel about all this? Yeah,
and all makes sense. So when I talk about your
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guides coming in here, I know that's such a weird
thing to say. I never used to say guides until
people started asking me who's they? So we're just gonna
say guides for lack of a better word. How do
you feel when I bring in your intuition and your
everyday way of thinking? I mean, I definitely hear that
because I I feel like I have a really good
gut and intuition, like I I it's like I know,
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but I always like wait for proof. But I just
need to start listening to that more and then knowing that.
I like the clarity thing just because I keep asking
for clarity, um, and I just I know it's there.
I just need to feel it. But what ends up
happening about how about when I tell you that you
pick up on the intention of other people? Again, I
don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but you
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know this person like the back of your hand. You
know this person like nobody else does. So when I
talk about the intention and also you know, um, picking
up on what's going on, what's going on behind the scenes,
how do you feel about that as well? Because I
feel like again that also adds to your intuition. That
also adds to that level of stress or anxiety that
you get. Yeah, for sure, I mean I definitely have Yeah,
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I I take I take that on and I don't
want to take that on anymore. But I definitely it's frustrating.
For sure. That's one of your biggest lessons here. Again,
I hate to dip into the past life and bring
up past life information because again for one, for one thing,
there's no way to validate that. There's no way to
look back and look at somebody else's past life and say, oh,
this is exactly who you were here. I have the proof,
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but people like people like that. It does trigger a
lot of what's going on in this lifetime. But my
whole thing is staying present and being focused on what's
going on in this life time. However, you do have
those lessons when it comes to how you love and
how you receive love, because in relationship, relationships are huge
for you, especially in this lifetime. You're you're gonna find
your strength, your character, your identity through relationships in this lifetime.
(33:11):
It's important for you. And what ends up happening again
is that I think that you have like you I'm
not gonna go I'm not gonna go as far as
to call you bipolar or have a slip personality. But
I definitely know, I know, I definitely feel like this,
this very intelligent, this very you know um knows what
needs to be done type of person. I definitely see
that with you. But I also see that shadows side
(33:33):
to you, that shadows side that when nobody else is around,
the stuff that you can do to yourself, when it
comes to your way of thinking. That's where your guys
want to jump in and tell you again, Look, we've
got to figure out a way to filter this so
it's not it's not so intention so it's not so
intense and so much for you. Yeah, but when when
we talk about can I call him Mike? Sure, So
(33:53):
we're talking about when I talk about him, what do
you think about when I say that he does what's
expected of him rather than what he truly wants to
be doing and sometimes can't think for himself. Yeah, I mean,
I hear that, and I wonder, you know, I mean,
now he's free to do whatever he wants. Here's the thing, though,
I'm going to be a little bit manipulative too, and
(34:13):
I'm also going to be team you. Right now, here's
the thing I'm gonna I'm having difficulty saying this. I'm
just gonna throw it out there. What other woman is
going to put up with that? Well, he's gonna, he says,
he's going to change, and so the next girl gets
the changed man. You've got to want to change. First
(34:34):
of all, you have to acknowledge that there's an issue
going on. And I don't believe in um not having
self control, and I don't believe in making excuses and
putting band aids on a wound where that where it
just keeps bleeding NonStop here, and this is something to
where I feel like people live behind that excuse as
far as like you know, I'm not saying that everybody
(34:56):
that that that nobody suffers from from things or they
can't go through certain things, but we start living behind
that excuse and people start putting in your head, oh
it's this, it's that the reason why you are is
because of X, Y and Z. I feel like people
end up living behind that and make a bigger deal
out of it than what needs to be made out
of it. And I feel like with you that again,
with you thinking about this. You're kind of like, don't
be stupid, Like I know who you are and I
(35:18):
know I know how you think, and it has to
be extremely frustrating for you because you see through that. Yeah,
but I don't. But I do not see anything negative
you're I don't see you. You know this is something
that's gonna be bothering you for the rest of your life.
I honestly feel, and again there's you can you have
the ability to change is you can do. You can
change what I'm saying moving forward here by just you know,
not doing anything about it, But I don't feel like
(35:40):
that's in your character, and I definitely feel like with
you that it's gonna be. I'm gonna say probably by
summer of next year, things are going to be different
for you as far as like um feeling. Again, that's
not to take away that you know that you're not
going to be good by this coming fall here, but
by summer of next year, a total one eighty different, different,
different outlook on life, different feeling, different vibe, more confident,
(36:02):
more determined to kind of get things done here. And
also too, I really feel like your kids are going
to come in and show you strength here and get
back to what matters the most, which is you and
this family that you've created. For sure, I know about
all this. I can give it to me, and I
want that that bad side of me to come out.
No I can't. I mean, I that sounds great. I
(36:24):
want all that you know, and I hope, I hope
for that. I don't want to be but I want
to be alone forever, you know, So I hope that
you know there's someone out there eventually you know that
I'll But let's make it worth at this time though.
Let's let's kind of take a step back here and realize,
like I said when I told you at the very beginning,
that you're pretty much right or diet like when you
get involved in a relationship. This is the security, comfort,
(36:46):
peace of mind that I'm looking for. I only want
to do this once. I don't want to date around
for dating is fundor. But right now I'm at this
age where where I want the real thing. So we
already know what it is that you have to offer,
what you bring to the table. Let's take a step
back here and see what the next person has to
offer before we jump it. See if they're up to
par with who you are and where you're I'm never
(37:07):
settling ever again ever again, I'd rather be alone. Who's
to say that within the next six months that this
new look, this new you, this new vibe isn't gonna
be the come up ins that've been waiting for, because again,
you can't keep a woman like you down for very long.
You're gonna again, like I said, you're going to go
through the emotions. You're going to said on that pity pot,
(37:30):
cry more, and do not let anybody tell you again
here I am giving you psychic insight, but I am
not going to push you because again I feel like
we're kind of like in the same boat your work.
We need a hot minute to get our together. We
need to go through so we need to throw things around,
we need to cry, we need to get piste off
and do what we need. We need to get that
all out. So honored, I get that all out. But
don't ever ever mistake your emotions, your sensitivity as a
(37:53):
weakness here, because that's one of the best parts about you.
It reminds you that you're human. So again, when you're
ready to find your strength, let's do that us. Thanks Chris,
I appreciate you coming on, UM and I love that
you also have a podcast and do you help other
people on the podcast? Like do you do? That's so cool?
So it's called in your Head and you can listen
to that wherever or for more information, you can go
(38:14):
to Chris Medina dot guide UM and it could people
sign up to get a psychic reading from you there, Yeah,
they can visit my website sign up for a half
hour session, hour long session. I just want to make this,
uh know one right out about here or out the gate.
My sessions tend to go over. I am not a clockwatcher,
so if you sign up for a half an hour reading,
be prepared to be on the phone for thirty to
(38:35):
forty five minutes. Same thing with an hour and ten.
I want to make sure I get everything in your session.
You're paying the top dollar for that. Let's talk about it.
I love it, Chris. Thank you so much for coming
on and shutting some insight. I really appreciate it. You're
so my love, and please keep in touch if there's
anything I can do for you, do not ever hesitate
to reach out. Awesome, Thanks Chris, You're welcome to take
care all right. Super excited to have Seth for million
(39:00):
coming on so you can get more information from coming
out Tarot dot com, um, psychic, medium, tea guardare, I'm
so excited. Dom is something good? All right? Seth, do
your thing, do me. There's there's so many ways to
(39:23):
approach tarot and how it is a part of our lives,
and my favorite way to work with it is to
bring clarity, to bring confidence, and to help the person
sitting across from me you today to have a more
enriching life and work through whatever transformation it is that
you might be going through today. And you're also you
also do psychic and is that go in with the
(39:43):
psychic and medium reading too, or how does that work
that does? So some people will ask me specifically for
mediumship readings. Psychic for me has a lot of connotations,
and many people think of a psychic as someone who's
constantly clairvoyant, But psychic has all of the It's kind
of like an umbrella term that has a lot of
things underneath it, including mediumship and taro and all the
(40:06):
other Claire is like Claar sentience and Claire audience, so
there's a lot of stuff that falls underneath that. For me, Uh,
the mediumship will be a tool that I use. Clar
sentience will be a tool that I use, which is
feeling something in your body. So it comes reading for
someone once and my neck got supertense and we talked
about how in their neck they've been recently diagnosed with
(40:29):
a pretty severe case of arthritis. So there are there
are moments like that that happen. And then when I
use my cards, that's tapping into intuition and sometimes the
technique called scrying, which will help me see images that
may or may not be in the card, but it
might have something to do with you or may have
(40:49):
something to do with me. So the the experience can
take many different skill sets to arrive at the transformation
and real the insight that you're looking for. And my
favorite way to do that is to work with you
either with a strong question something that you're focused on
right now that you're trying to get a little more
(41:10):
insight on and and dig through. If you don't have
a or you don't want to ask a like a
strong question saying here's where I want to really focus,
then I'll also work in themes and it ends up
narrowing down into something specific. The same way so how
how do you have you had a tero reading before? Yeah,
(41:32):
I have one, I've had before. Cool, So what has
the experience been like for you? Has it been similar
to that or different? Um, I don't know. It's one
of those where I'm like, I don't really don't believe
in it. I'm just I'm I don't know, Like, I
just I don't know. I'm not I'm not used to
used to it. Like my friends always like, you know,
(41:53):
what's the intention of the day, And so she has
the tarot cards and she's but I'm like, but you
could have picked another a card and then it would
have been something else. So that's I just I go there.
Sometimes that makes complete sense to me because I do
the same exact thing, not just the intention of the day,
but the feeling of well, it could have been any card.
But that's part of the point, isn't it that that
(42:15):
the these things have collided to say, here's where we
are right now in this moment, and there's so many
things that could transpire after that may divert us onto
another road. But here, in this moment, right now, this
is something that we can touch, dig deeper into, feel,
feel the the inspiration of or maybe even want to
(42:38):
hold onto and say this is this is a talisman
for me, or maybe the phrase I'm going to use
to get through the day, to help me feel stronger,
more empowered, more confident as I go through all the
things that can come at me throughout the course of
the day or several months, you know, whatever might be
(42:59):
most most important. So how about you, would you would
you like to focus on a question? Um, I think
just clarity and then the future. Okay, let's dick. Clarity
is pretty, Clarity is broad right, making the right choices,
(43:24):
that's all right, it's a little little Yeah. I think
it's great. Every every terror reader is different. And some
people like, don't tell me anything. I don't wonder anything
about you. I don't want to hear any questions. Um.
I love to work from where you are. You've already
done a ton of work on your own to get
to where you are today. And sometimes hearing all this
(43:45):
stuff you already know, people like, okay, yeah, we'll already
knew that. Help me out. Let me know where things
are headed. A confirmation is sometimes it's part of the
name of the game. Let it knows it helps me
know it helps you know that we're zero it on
something that's the right track. Yeah, it's a I heard
this thing I was reading in a book and I
(44:05):
can't remember the exact term of what they use, but
it's like you have to hear something or see something
a certain amount of times before you can actually start
believing it. So I'm like, I've asked people probably fifteen times,
and I'm making the right decision and making the right decision,
and it's like when then you finally are gonna be
like it's just going to click and you're like, I
made the right decision. But sometimes you have to and
(44:25):
I can't remember, I have to go back to the book.
But it was it was fascinating because I'm like, wow,
that's I do that all the time. I'm like, oh
my gosh, I took this vaccination. Am I gonna get
blood clots? And like, am I gonna be? Okay? I'm
I gonna die. It's like until I get the answer
like all the way and then I'm like, okay, now
I'm fine, I'm fine, all right? So do you want
to see these? Uh? And I can describe them as
(44:46):
I pulled them up, what the cards are? Read them out. Okay,
so I like to use layout. It's not every readers
use layouts, which means there's a meeting to each position
in the card that I laid out. The first card
that I pulled, which is a current position with what
might be going on now, is the moon. And these
look a little different from what people might be familiar with.
This moon has a big unicorn on it, a gorgeous
(45:08):
moon m crawda down there in the bottom, and it's
coming out of a lake and there's some some planets
that are surrounding it. The the moon for me today
and in this moment, is representing the state of everything
that is being revealed. You're you're in a position of
coming to understanding things that you didn't expect, things that
(45:31):
are probably are surprise. It's like the veil is being lifted.
And as you start to understand more than just getting
it in front of me again, as you start to
understand more, I think there is a there's a path
that is still yet to be revealed. There's there's a bit,
there's a bit you don't know yet as much as
you may know at this point, there's still there's something
(45:54):
hidden for me. And what's interesting I remember I was saying,
there's a scrying thing that kind of happens. I see images.
This looks like a like a This is gonna sound weird.
So I don't know if this sounds if this is
important for you or not. You know the story of
King Arthur and the Lady of the Lake. You know,
(46:16):
so the King Arthur received his sword um and through
not only pulling it out of this stone, but it
was it was originally the stone upon the world by
the Lady of the Lake, this magical, mythical creature. And
what it looks like to me is this sword is
starting to come out of the lake. Uh. I'm gonna
(46:38):
say this is a symbol for me because it's not
a story that you know. So the symbol for me
is there is truth about to be revealed. There's more
for you to know, to understand, and to have that
illuminated by the moon. Is is it's a secret. You
don't know this yet, so you're about to find out more.
(46:59):
We itch in the case of where you you are,
I'm fascinating because I'm going to add a little bit
more to this, So hold on to that thought for
a minute. So as a result of where you are
at the moment and seeking the clarity you're looking for.
There's more information coming that's going to get you the
(47:20):
clarity that you're looking for. It's going to be revealed
to you. Though it's not something you can find, chase,
or or discover on your own. Somebody's going to give
it to you. And as a result, that opens up
And this feels weird, but go with me, and maybe
it don't mean something more to you than it does
(47:41):
to me. At the moment. That opens up a whole
new path of love and opportunity for you. Okay, and
I'm going to switch those words the opportunity for love
for you. But this, this revelation has to happen first.
You have to get out of the mire of uh
of where you are today. And that comes as a
(48:03):
result of someone else saying, hey, here's this thing you
didn't know. Now that you know it, what are you
gonna do? And you then it's like the veil is
totally lifted. The you know, the rose colored glasses come off.
The feeling of um struggling through family and challenges around
(48:27):
family moves out of the way and you're able to
see clearly where you're meant to be next? Got it?
What kind of questions does that raise for you? When? Ah, okay,
cool timing and taros. Any taro reader will probably tell
(48:47):
you as a challenge because once we leave, you know,
once we're not engaged in this moment anymore, you have
free will. You can make your next choice, and then
the next reading might say something the timing has changed
because of who you ran into or or the guide
posts you you ignored, for example. So timing is relative.
(49:10):
It's based on the information that we have today, though,
I just think it would be interesting to hear what
happens in thirty days. I'll let you know. I'm excited. Yeah, seriously. Um, so,
thank you so much for coming on and doing the
tarot cards with me. I appreciate it. And where could
(49:30):
listeners find you? Uh, they can find me. It's psychics
one on one dot com. That's the easiest place to
work with me today. I can be found in so
many places. That is one of the places that you
can find the easiest. Okay, awesome, Thank you so much
that I really appreciate it. And I'll let you know
what happens in the next thirty All right, good, thank you.
(49:54):
Thank you. Alright, guys, we did it. I promise you.
I'm going uh figure this out, and we're gonna we're
gonna keep on trucking on and next week I'll be
a little bit stronger. And so will you see you
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