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October 15, 2025 22 mins

Jana noticed that Jolie had a reaction to sugary cereals, and Kristen had some negative effects in her family after some junk food while traveling. How do we get it under control??

Jana reveals the results of her food test and found out she has a slight allergy to an oil that’s in more meals than you’d expect. 

And we hear all about their iPad detox!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast. You want
to have a fun little bonus app I do I
missed you? I missed you too. This is before we
go to the beach. But what we're recording this so
but I don't know, I just like, I don't want
to talk about all the things. But you've been traveling

(00:22):
a lot. I have a lot to say about traveling
with kids. Okay, go okay, Oh, I have something too
about the travel about before going to the beach. Okay,
but go you a first. Are you gonna remember right down? Yeah,
welcome to your forties. Okay, So we've traveled a bit.
We actually have had like we have had four trips

(00:44):
within three weeks.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's a lot for me.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, because you don't really I don't want to say,
because you do travel, but you not like going a
lot with pressing. This is good, Yeah, this isn't It
has been like a little bit more saturated, and I'm
starting to unders stand the the actual Like I've always
had an importance about like everything that my kids eat,

(01:08):
about sleep, all of it. But this travel piece over
the last couple of weeks has really opened my eyes
to another level. And I so we I've gotten a
lot of questions about this. I think I might go
to Instagram and just do like people are like, how
do you travel with the kids?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
What are you like? What's your like kind of process?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Right Like, we do it so often that I think
it's overwhelming to other people when they do this. And
one of the things I know for sure we have
to do is I instacart to wherever we're staying, because
I just need us to have first breakfast, right like,
you know, to take the edge off in the morning
when they wake up right away. They're always hungry. And
if you're staying in a hotel, then you're like, okay,

(01:46):
well I Don't'm not ready yet to shuffle down and
get eggs or whatever. And then I also just need
us to have really good snacks for us.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I used to.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let Legend get whatever he wanted at the air because
we don't junk food. Okay we really don't, you know,
like he loves he calls them orange chips doritos. He
gets the stuff on the bus when he goes on
the bus. I think fifty percent of him wanting to
go on the bus is because of data. I think
the other fifty is because there's pop tarts, so the
orange chips. We do the late July version of what

(02:20):
would be kind of like a dorito. It's cleaner, not
the cleanness, but cleaner for sure. I am almost positive
that he has some sort of like allergic reaction to dyes, sugars,
something something makes him completely unhinged. I watched it. We

(02:41):
did a really quick Michigan trip. I let him have
whatever he wants. Now, when I say whatever he wants,
this isn't he doesn't get candy. But he had cheese
its and pringles, and then upon arrival I didn't realize
he was downing Capri sons.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And we don't eat like that his little system and
for good reason. What I have noticed a difference in
him when he has a lot of sugar. If he has,
he just can't. It's like it he needs a detox. Yeah.
So we did this final trip or this last trip,
and then I have one coming up this weekend. I'm
taking a love bug and she eats like me. So

(03:18):
that's really super easy. You know, we're just a couple
of forty year old girls out in the wild. But
there's something, really there's something to be said for the
consistency of the way we eat and travel. And I'm
I'm gonna crack down even harder with my family because
I cannot. I mean, I know, I can't eat like
junk when we travel. You know, my belly just gets descended.

(03:40):
I'm gross, I don't feel good, I don't sleep well.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
But the kids, I've always given a little leeway too,
because I'm like, oh, you should adventure, you should be
allergic to anything. So they're not not food tested allergic
to anything. I know that that is. You know, I
do wonder if there's something specific, like I've always wondered
that a little bit with like gluten with love, if

(04:03):
she has a sensitivity. And I always feel for Loo's parents.
You know, there's like I remember working with kindergarteners, we
had this. We used to watch this video. Have you
ever heard of this? The Alexander the elephant that couldn't
eat peanuts. It's the sweetest And this is from the
days of you Are. I don't even know if this
still circulates because this is like twenty years ago, but
we used to show this video because you know, twenty

(04:25):
years ago, specifically, if you had a peanut allergy that
was really really like a big deal. It is now too,
but it's more common. So now we have like peanut
friendly schools or nut friendly schools. All of our snacks
are vetted blah blah blah. But I am starting to
understand and wonder the if we have anything going on

(04:46):
in our family. And I don't know how to test
for that, but I would really love to know because
it sends him in a way that I can't. I'm
telling you, it's like he has to detox it out
of his system. Yeah, I'll never forget. I did a
girl's trip with some kids and their kids, and it
was the first time that I let my and let
Jolie have lucky charms. But it was because I felt

(05:09):
pressure of them, like making fun of me that I
didn't want her to have lucky charms. Yeah, that I
then like allowed so that that I was being this
like crunchy mom to not let her have it. So
therefore we then had the sugary cereals all the things
that I grew up with, like the fruit loops and
all the things, and then getting them off of that

(05:30):
was one of the hardest things because now you know,
we have. I still let them have cereal, but it's
the organic kind and that's not filled with all the
sugars and even so much like with my ex, I'm like,
please stop giving them this kind of cereal because it's
it's I've seen what it's doing. But then when they're

(05:52):
not doing it, it's like Jolie's skin, like she's got
really bad ezema. When she eats stuff like that, her
skin gets so much worse. And that's proof, like gut, Yeah,
your gut is directly related to things like that. Yeah,
I'm with you, but I just feel and I don't
know why because it's I feel like it's changing. But
I do get this. I had, you know, I had

(06:13):
one family member mentioned it to me. They go this
over the break over the summer. She was like, your
kids don't eat any like bad snacks, and I'm like, no,
they don't like and and but then it was she
was like praising it. She's like that's great, you know,
like everything I've seen you give them is all really

(06:35):
good stuff. But it's the people that make the comments
like oh, they can't have cheese uts, Like, no, they can't.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's wild and even you can't pronounce.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Anything on those boxes. But then I look like the
crunchy mom because I'm like, I don't want them to
have that. I know, but it's what It's been interesting
because even as studies come out about the dies and
everything in our foods, Preston even will send it to
me and he's like, baby, you knew, and I'm like,
I'm telling there's something, so stay crunchy.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I I don't like the but I the label that
we get.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yes, yes, but most of the time it comes from
an older generation that is drinking their diet coke while
they tell you, but also like I get it. That's
what I was raised on too. Like you guys, I
used to down white cheddar cheese. It's like they were
going out of style. But I also had most like
in flame stomach, and it was until I stopped doing

(07:28):
all the and all the bad pro I got rid
of the cheese its and all the process stuff that
I was doing, and then on top of my gut
cleanse that I didn't have anxiety because I was a
dirt flame with all the stuff. And it is it
is a direct correlation. And it's like I'm trying to
tell you it's but it's like them for my kids.

(07:49):
I'm like, I see how they act different when they
have certain types of foods, But then I'm almost getting
judged that.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
They can't. I know.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
So at baseball games sometimes I know this is where
I was going, I know, and it's hard because what
do you mean? The kids are going in these bags
and then the one pulled out the Cheetos and I look.
Jason's like, Mommy, can I please have these? And I'm like, yes,
you can have them, I said, but I need you
to understand that, like Mommy's still not. I know you're

(08:18):
gonna like them, you know, but I don't. But I
also there's sometimes I'm like maybe even later and then
and then I get rid of them. I know, same,
and that it's when they packed the gatorades for me,
soe I do think kids do need when they play
like and they sweat that much. I understand the gatorade combo,
but I just don't like what good I know. I know,
I know I have a good electro late for him,

(08:39):
like I put in, but it's cute because now he'll
come to me like dig around and the last two
games he's come over afterwards and he said, I went
to the very bottom. I found the one that has
the least amount of die. I'm like, so, Jacob, we'll
grab Eminem's and go Mommy, I took out the red ones.
Oh well, like you're on your way, buddy. But I

(09:04):
don't know. I just wish. I think it's changing. It
is changing, but it's a certain It's like I I do.
And my question is there's all these sensitivities and now
there's all these allergies, and I wonder if we were
given cleaner food with better ingredients and things that our
bodies can process and metabolize and digest better, would we

(09:27):
see a decrease of that we just have healthier guts.
Well that's the thing too about alcohol and why like
we're pretty much a dry house now. And again I'm
not going to say I'm never going to not have
red wine again, But what does it cost my gut?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Microbiome?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I found so old? But it's true, it's like I
have to restart the whole thing. And it's like I've
gone so far with my gut cleanse and anxiety, all
of it and feeling good that it's like for what
for one got of wine? I know, and I did
say that I go to Europe. This is why I
want to live in Europe.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh so good.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I lost for like, no, three pounds when I went.
And you can eat carbs all day long. I even
ate cheese, Yes you did, and I felt great. I
know I did too. I ate French fries over there
and felt great to yeah, all of it. And I
just felt like, I think, it's just cleaner ingredients.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Simple. It's about what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I do think, though, there's so much correlation between the
food allergies and just how your kiddos act.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, how I act. Well, I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm more tired when I have something that's not great
for me. Yeah, And I tried my best this last trip.
I did try my best to like really just have
salads where we could have salads, you know, but man
like I had a little bit of pasta one of
the nights. It looked as if I was four months
pregnant the next day. I mean, it is wild to
me how quickly it happens. Yeah, we're just trying to

(10:59):
process things we're not supposed to process. I think. And
there's the I mean mentally physically, food wise, nutritionally, we're
really in it. So I'm going to try something for

(11:23):
the beach. Okay, kids don't have iPads here, they don't
ever do iPads. The only time they ever do iPads
is for a flight. Okay, I'm going to flights, yeah,
all flights. Okay, I'm going to do a no iPad
on this flight.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can do it. We've had no iPads for two
years now. Flights.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Now, I say that if we're going to if we're
going to Scotland, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, or something like that.
But I'm like, okay, we're going to Florida. It's an
hour and a half. That's great, And I think I'm
going to just be like, no, it's so already prep them, like, guys,
we're not doing iPads, So bring a coloring book for
little action figurine because then when we get there, it's
like the second they have it, they go too much

(12:02):
of that bad in the morning, and then it becomes
the obsession again with something I've watched it. Yeah, we
went through it too. We're cold Turkey. I can't do it. Yeah,
I'm going to try something this time on travel too
with the kids, where like you know, then it's so
it's the pure pressure of ice cream. Right, everyone's getting
ice cream. Oh, we do the ice cream. Yeah, so
we're doing the ice cream. That's where I'm not crunchy.

(12:24):
But we're not doing M and m's on the ice cream.
Oh okay, like we don't. Leve won't pick that anyways.
But Leggie is like.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I took them.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I took them to the sprinkles or whatever that is
ben cheese and they lay loaded it up because sometimes
I just feel bad.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well listen and they've got it. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
A lot of times when they have it, then they
get the belly ache and they're like, oh you know.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's like okay, well now we're learning, right you see.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, I don't think it's so bad, but I do
think when it comes to travel, the cleaner we can
keep it. I've we've just gone less of I used
to let it be a free for all. And I
think that's also like kind of how we were raised.
I don't know about you, but like there's a mentality
that was passed stones, like you're on vacation, you know, yeah,
like actually not on my gut is not on vacation.
Speaking of allergies, though, this something has been happening to me,

(13:09):
and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it
with Nate.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, So, I think it's the soy. I think I'm
allergic to soy. Okay, it came up in my food
thing that I had like a major reaction to soy.
So I cut soy out right. And so you when
you do like a food test, you go through all
the things that like you shouldn't eat. So the top
two was monk fruit and soy. Wow, and those are

(13:34):
in a lot of things, a lot of things. So
I've completely gone cold turkey now, none of it like
zero speaking of cold turkey, mine was beef. It was
like red alert, do not do that? You don't have
any Isn't that wild? Because my body doesn't like it?
But i'mren't paying attention to what my body doesn't like.
But I think because some things are cooked in soy

(13:55):
oil that I'm having a hard time, Like I can't
swim when I'm eating something.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Wait, this just happened to you.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, at Pan's birthday party, and I like started to
have an anxiety attack because I'm like, okay, swallow yah,
and I get like this like cough, so I'm like,
what is happening? Has anybody else experienced this? Please let
me know? Yeah, And I was like, I think this
is anafflunding shock. Isn't that what it's called. I don't know,
but I don't know what's happening. I'm like, is this
a food allergy or am?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I like?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, I think it could be. There's something that restaurants
cook in. It's an oil. I know that because it'll
be like on a salad. So that's why I always
dressing on the side and I taste my dressing. Huh,
some oil And I don't know what it is. I
should look back at my food test too. But something
really messes with me, like it is instant, not like
I'm gonna get sick. And they're like it gives me
like I feel like I can't swallow my throat is

(14:43):
like I don't know what. It freaks me out. Yeah,
I don't like it for I've never.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
When we were in Paris, we had gelato every night
and every night my belly hurt. But yeah, well yeah,
I don't really eat dairy. Yeah so anyways, wow, we
but really we really did. We really went in there.
But vacation is among us, So this time, let's just
make the pack you want to So we'll just try
really hard to just keep it as clean as we can,
and we'll come back with our findings. Yeah, you don't

(15:11):
think you're gonna be able to do that. I already
see you in Florida. It's vacation. I I know, I know,
but I just feel like I'm so But if it
is vacation, that's the other thing. We're traveling a lot
right now, so I like we can't be going off
the deep end once a week on a travel trick, right,
But if it's once a few months, yeah, maybe so

(15:33):
side note, Yeah, a lot going on this month, and
we've got quite a bit of people coming up. It's
should we tease a few of them?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah? We should.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Amy, Alexander, I think is my number one. I love
her that I'm most excited about. She's our therapist. I
have something pinned for you when you and I and
Kat are together. Oh that Amy sent me? Okay, bad? No, Okay,
you remember it? Oh? Yeah, okay, are you nervous to
I mean, I know we've talked to her a bunch,

(16:09):
but I just feel like there's a piece of me
that just kind of wants to open up even more.
I know. I think that is I've been like really
prayerful around this piece because I share enough that paints
a picture, sure, but I don't excessively share because I

(16:30):
also have this weird there's this weird like not weird.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's this obligation.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I feel that I have this platform, but then the
people don't have the platform to combat what I would
want to say. But then also I have a lived experience.
But I've recently just watched a show and I know
I had mentioned this to you before, but I had
watched this show that had this domestic violence scene. But

(16:57):
it was the first time in a while. I think
that maybe, I mean I wouldn't say ever, but probably
in a while where it was from the kid's point
of view, and I mean, it makes me emotional to
even think about it. What happened to me was such,
I mean, I was back in time, my whole body.

(17:21):
It was I don't even know how to describe it.
And so that is what I think probably needs to
be talked about. But I'm just being prayerful on the
way that I say things, not to protect people, but
just I mean the impact, but it kind of goes
to what we spoke about, the one that when I

(17:42):
was talking about the three M thing where it's like
your body remembers, Oh, it remembers, like Janda, I was back.
I was, I was like seven eight nine. I could like,
I mean when I tell you instant tears, closed my
eyes and plugged my ears, and Preston saying next to me,
is like, are you okay? I mean it's wild. And

(18:05):
this scene, of course was another level. It wasn't to
that extent, sure, but just I mean, your body remembers,
it's really interesting. I was like, and I couldn't. I've
done so much work that I thought for sure I've
gone back and grabbed her the six seven eight year
old you know. Yeah, and also too, and I really

(18:28):
want to give people the opportunity to have Amy there
for them too, you know, like why like for us,
it's like, why are we having these body remembering moments
like was what peace of us? Need to feel this
part or you know, do this work or whatever it
may be. But if there's anything that you want to

(18:49):
ask Amy, please write in, because she is such an
expert in areas of trauma and She's incredible. She's so
so good. So if there's anything that you want to
ask her that you have gone through, I feel like
it would be really nice to open up a few
listener questions for her.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I think especially when people have the comfortability of sub
many things anonymously, yes, to just get the answers they
need from a professional. Yeah, because we I love doing
the listener questions at the end, but like we don't
know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
We're just making our cope.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Your cope is best weekend, Like I we have enough
experience in certain areas, but these are just our opinions. Yeah,
So Amy is phenomenon Me is you gave me Amy.
I gave you Amy the gift that keeps giving. And
Amy's really sweet and protective of us, which I love.

(19:46):
Like she's already called me and was like you have
a choice, and I was like, I know, I know,
I have a choice, But I do think it's so
important to talk about. And I don't know that the
kids in these situations get enough of a voice. And
there are a lot of us that grew up in
these situations. It affects the way we do almost everything.

(20:08):
Noise level in my house. You're allowed noise, like the
reaction I have to anything loud.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's so I really think I'm going to be prayerful,
but I'm just going to be open. It might be
tough for you to be married to a Scotsman because
there's times when I'm like, we'd stop yelling. He's like,
this is not me yelling and I'm like, and it's not.
But it's like to me, it's like I that was
mine where it was this the stare or like the
heightened level of languid like a volume. Yeah, it's crazy.

(20:40):
So yeah, so we got her coming on to lighten
things up. Yeah. I was like, well, we're going to
get a few cast mates from the Christmas Ring, which
November sixth in theaters. So excited about that. Love and
Legend are living their best lives. Love was like, I
want to be in every single one of Jana's movies,
and I said she's an enabler in that she would
probably just let you anywhere you can come.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I got a few people that sent me screenshots
and we're like, is this.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Is this Love? I see?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It was a good is she.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Made the trailer and you're so sweet I just feel
like this Christmas movie is so different for some reason.
It is there's like a really you're acting in this
is different to me. And I love Ben just getting
to know him too, and the writing was you know,
but yeah, but Karen just all of it. It's maybe

(21:28):
we'll get Karen Karen Kingsbury to sit on the couch
too with us.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I would love that.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So stay tuned. We've got a really we've got a
very loaded October with some heavy things and some you know,
obviously speaking with Amy and about domestic violence and trauma
and therapy. So we've got heavy, but we've also got
some joyful episodes that I'm looking forward to and guests
that we're going to have on So it's going to

(21:53):
be a very packed but full, grateful month. I'm excited,
per full of that. It's going to be great. It's
going to be great. Well until then, let's all go
get some box of cheeses and see our skin change,
grab o probiot eggs, and we'll see you next month.
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