December 1, 2025 • 34 mins
It’s the first day of December and the ladies are BOOKED. Jana, Kathryn and Kristen get into their holiday traditions, and we try to figure out of they truly bring joy… or just burnout.
We discuss what might change when you start making more money than your partner, and the ladies have a message for anyone thinking of making the move to Nashville.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, guys, hi coming into December. How fun is this
the big kickoff? The big kickoff to all the things?
It's funny because we want to do things together as
a group, and so I text them like, hey, guys,
what are you guys doing for New Year's Because it's
like I got to start planning. Yes, yep, I gotta
(00:27):
you know, and we gotta in like cheek Wood. I'm like,
who wants to come to cheek Wood? Because we love
There's certain things that I love to do with the kids,
like Gaylord Opryland and the nut recer Tee and yeah,
you know all the things. So it's just the.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
The tradition list is a lot for us. Like I
actually have a note in my phone so that I
don't forget anything. But it's like the drive through lights
and then it's cheek Wood and feed the reindeer and
go see Santa and don't forget.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
For the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, I haven't been there either, Okay, yes, I like
ever we go every year and they haven't been there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Why have it's been like four years? They haven't been there?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Weird?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Where were they right in the very beginning?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh at aprey Land, Nope, Oh at cheek would Oh yeah,
I've never done the cheek wood thing. Send me the
send me when you're going, though, I would like to
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh great, I'm just like putting on there something if
people that's.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Perfect joined well, that was going to be my next thing.
This is what we have to learn. I've learned this
well kind of trying. When we want everyone to do something,
we just have to plan it and say this is
when I'm going, let me know if you want to go. Yeah,
it's too hard. Yeah, we can't plan, even though you
have to for certain things like New Years and stuff
like that. So I totally understand it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But I know I've been feeling like I want to
do a holiday party, but I don't. It's so it's
so difficult because I'm even wanting to do. I know
you're about to say we have it planned.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, I wasn't say don't cancel.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well it's Allan's birthday, and I just am like I
kind of want to separate it. Mm hm, fair you
know what I mean, because it's like the party. I
want it to be holiday to have.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, that's fair a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Party, and like it'll just feel like I'm inviting all
of my closest friends, right and some close neighbors that
that felt it started to feel a little bit selfish.
I actually called KB this morning and was just kind
of running through I'm like this. He's like, well, what
would you think he'd want to do? And I'm like,
probably not be around him. He loves everybody and he
loves Nick and.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Course of course, yeah, yeah, that's not It's just I
love a separated I am such a close to Christmas
birthday that I and so is love. I'm so absolutely
intentional about the separation because holidays and our birthdays it
just feels so lumped together. But the problem is is
when we're going through it, I'm like, look, there's another
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day compressed and do it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There's like literally no time. So it's just.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I do closer to Christmas like snugly, like a
little early said.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There is no possible way we don't have a day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well we don't.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We are just not done with all of our holiday
stuff until the twenty third.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean since Christmas Eve. We can't do Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But we're in town, you know, so like he's not.
I mean you guys, when I tell you December, I
made the declaration on this podcast that I was going
to be joyful and I'm going to try to find
it and I'm not giving up on that. I'm not
giving but my goodness, it's full.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So I'm not fool. So I would like some plans. Well, no,
I even was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I even said to Alan, and I said, this is
so not like me. So I was like, let me
just start with that, I said, but there was a
piece of me that even wanted to do open the
house up for the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh what do you mean? Open the house up for
the neighbor So like an actual open house, like a
like a holiday.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We used to do this back in our neighborhood. So
it was one place would do appetizers, one place would
do dinner, and then one he used to do a dessert.
And it was something that we did in our neighborhood.
That was something that I loved as a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's adorable. Actually, yeah, I've heard people do that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, and a lot of times it was for the adults.
But when as I got older, I just still remembering
it was cool when all the adults came to our
house and we would like spy on them and like,
you know, right, So I just thought that could be
like do something like that, and there's a piece of
me that's as excluded as I want to be. There
are some people that have moved in that I'm like,
(04:19):
this would be fun to have more of a community
hang with people kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yes, But then also no, I know, but like take birthday.
Kat would like to separate that because I mean, as
long as I'm invited to that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think if he was to throw a soccer party
on my birthday, oh of.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Course, I mean I get it, trust me, I do
get it. I mean absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So that's where again I know that it's all of
our friends, and I do want to separate it because I.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, but we have to find a day for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
We do, and that's dealing with her calendar.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, I can come to anything, right, It's just yeah,
we were you know, couples of things.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But so anyway, that is just kind of like my vibe.
I've been thinking about it. I don't know if I
want to do it, because it sounds fun. Everything sounds
fun in the moment, right for.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The night of I'll be honest, that is one that
I would totally be sick that day. I mean, I
don't can you own house like exactly, it wouldn't. That's
why I could not plan something like that. I could come,
but I could not plan something like that. I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Especially appetizers are canceled, you guys can just double up
at the smith's house.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I could never commit to that on the front end
because I know in that day I will I would
want to cry. Yeah, I feel though, because you like
to have people in your home.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I do, but I'm not also the person that I am,
not the person like Pam or Kristen that brings over
the cutest picking chircoutery board. Like I'm not that human either.
I'm like, here's my paper plates, but welcome to my
home and let's have some fun. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think that's way more inviting. That's why we love it,
not saying we don't don't love it, but that's why
we like to do a dress code at certain places.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't do well with the d I don't do
dress code also do well saying bring this kind of
desserve with I was like, I have to pay someone
I'm out. You can't give me fifteen hurdles and seventeen
bullet points.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's already a miracle. I went like thirty minutes out
of my way spend one hundred dollars to get said
thing to bring to the party because I couldn't do
it on my own. Now that's my personality. I'd rather
just do that. But I think it's just again, what
sounds great in the moment, would it be great in reality?
(06:40):
In that moment?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And That's what I'm really trying to understand, because there
are other things that I'm you know, I'm trying to plan,
you know, his birthday something, you know, and I'm like,
this sounds like a good idea, But am I do
I do we want to do that? It's like, in
this moment, this that sounds so great, and that sounds
so great to have some neighbors come over and you know,
(07:01):
get everyone to maybe chill and hang out. But then
it could be awful and then I won't want to
do it in the reality of that moment. And so
it's I'm kind of stuck in the what do I do?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It could go either way?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I well, I think we all know where.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I I don't know where you stand. I could see
you like this label party. What are you talking about?
Well I haven't committed. Yes, oh, Kristen, Well it's gonna happen.
It'll happen on the date that it's going to happen.
I'm gonna need you to commit if you're actually hosting it.
She literally said, well, I'm hosting a Christmas party that day. Well,
I'm gonna have to host it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
No, whether I host it at my house or I
host it at a location, I'm hosting it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I see, because well that's what I'm saying you you
are a great host. Yes, that's why I do say.
I could see you loving this.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, but no, you guys, I will just say this.
I just have got to guard the days close to Christmas,
is what I've learned. I think it's all fun and
it sounds amazing and do I want.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
To do of course, then it's stressful. It's just the days.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Run out and then all of a sudden, it's like
something every day and in your sandwiching in between, like
love is in the Nutcracker this year, which is going
to be incredible. But that's a full day in December
and the day before is a full day of rehearsal
and we're having the grandparents come in, so then the
days before that are me hosting the grandparents so that
they can be here.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because it's such a.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Big deal and I love all of that, but I'm
also like, where where do I exist in that?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like I don't want to be the tired, frazzled mom.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That's just like give me a December twenty six because
we're missing the whole Prince of Peace issue.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you know, like where is like.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
The calm and the holy night and the sweetness and
sometimes the piling knot of traditions just becomes a to
do list. And I'm like so and because it's my
own deal that I love traditions and I don't want
to miss a year, and every year we take our
picture by this tree, I'm this, you know, it's like
I've just started to go, Okay, well, maybe this year
we won't get to cheek Wood, and maybe this year
we haven't done opry Land because it got a little
(08:58):
too expensive for our family. To be honest, it just
was like a full day and then a sleepover and
then it was and it just I'm looking at Preston like,
if we're going to spend a thousand dollars, I'd rather
go somewhere, you know. And so we've kind of taken
that off the plate, and I just needed to like
have some breathing room, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah. See, my problem is kind of both, like we
do don't do all of that because my kids have
gotten older. So we do a few things, but then
I get to a point where I'm like, well, this
is kind of depressing because everyone's going here and going
there and doing this with their young kids. And you know, yeah,
my kids are busy and we're like keeping up with stuff,
but it's like, man, did we do a whole lot
(09:38):
of Christmas? Like? So that's where I struggle because it's
like I need that happy medium.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What is your favorite thing to do with the family
for Christmas time?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I mean we used to love apry Land. I mean
that's what we would do, But the kids are older
now and it's not fun for them.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So what would be fun for you guys? Now, that's
a good question, and then find that right now, and
I see it's hard and just find one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, we you need to for sure. I mean, we
definitely still have our like family traditions where we go
to church, and then that's still probably our favorite, you know,
going to church on Christmas Eve, going over to my
in laws Christmas Eve, like we love that, you know,
and all of that. As they get older, the other
stuff like that isn't as fun anymore. I mean it's
not that it's not fun, but like they're just older,
(10:19):
and it's like the schedules is not how you do it.
With the schedules, it gets I mean, and they calmed down.
I mean, you know, they don't with school sports and stuff.
You're shut down now as.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're going hard in the paint for a while, so
we can't really.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Do that in school. Like in like if if you're
out of there's some exceptions and stuff, but generally, if
you're out of school, like you're not doing sports. You know,
playoffs may go into a holiday, they may do whatever,
but generally, if you're at weekend, you're not really doing
a whole lot of We're kind of off. So I
don't know, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Cat?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I know I'm going to look and see when Jana's
going to cheek Wood and I'm going to take y
I'm going to go join her.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Me.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
First, Oh, night's Sammy's birthday, so maybe not fun birthday
moment though. I don't know that my thirteen fourteen year
old will want to go to cheek Wood for her birthday.
Well it's only an hour, you are true and for
an hour. Yeah, that's true and cool. We're gonna have
the party. We're gonna have her party the night before.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Speaking of birthdays, I got a forty two coming up
here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Do what are we doing? It's Jana Eve.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Can I just say one of my favorite memories is
still last year's birthday. You guys walking up that no idea,
you guys were coming, the zero idea.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That was the best.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
What I don't like is team you up to think
we're not coming because all day I'm like, she doesn't
like God, she's sad.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We made her sad. She thinks I don't care.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's hard on us, I know, because I'm like, how
much do you think she's like really.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Gonna need you? Because it's not that birthdays mean more
to you, but they do. They do. But I love
that about you. Like love that, so I.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Love to go to last last year it was Alan's like,
what do you want to do? For your birthday, and
I said, I just want to have dinner with the kids,
because I've started to not make it be such a
big deal really, like I have started to just make
it not a thing. I don't get upset anymore on
my birthday, like I don't because he usually all cry
and be like, oh, I'm not where I want to be,
(12:29):
you know. And now it's like I have beautiful kids
and husband and family and kids and friends, so it's
I don't get upset. I still. So that's why last
year I was totally fine. Even when you're like, wait,
you guys aren't granted dinner, I'm like, no, I'm genuinely
I asked for a just a nice dinner with the
family in the dining room. It's my favorite room. We
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never eat in. I would love that. Yeah, And it
was great, and then you guys came over and it
was like such a cherry on top.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
We actually, I like, have I don't know that I've
that sad, But I don't know if I've left that
hard in a year.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So so unexpected and so fun. Yeah, you can't plan
it's so great, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So are we going to ruin your birthday? I was
going to say the thing that's so great about your
or I need your birthday to be on like the
perfect day every year. Is the problem because you like
to have your birthday stuff on your birth So.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's the weird thing about me.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's where you're difference.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
This is where I'm so different. I have to have
it celebrated. So like, Okay, my fortieth birthday, I believe
it fell on a Friday, right, I did it did? Yeah,
And that's great because I couldn't have celebrated it if
it was If my birthday fell on a Tuesday and
it was my fortieth, I could not have done a
Saturday fortieth birthday party. Same human, Really January third or
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forget it, and it's fine, Like if we missed it,
we're just moving on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my god, I thought it was the only one.
Now it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm like, I thought my birthday one, and I won't
blow out a candle the day before. I'm not making
any wishes and that's lovely, like it's good tea, yup.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But this is so wild to me because I genuinely thought,
like I would not speak this out into existence, because
I've felt crazy for thinking that because for example, one
of my really fun neighbors. She's like, oh, yeah, we're
gonna go celebrate my fortieth and I was like, oh,
your birthday. She's like, well, it was a couple months ago,
and I was like, then, it's not your fortieth birthday trip, Like, no,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, it's not. It's just it's not it's not on
the same day, and it throws me off. It's just
a trip. I also.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Love.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is the fifth that's screwing you over? Totally? Yes? I
wait second this year, everybody, that's what I's fine. It's
not literally saying it's not fine. It is fine. We
don't have to celebrate my birthday. See, I don't like that.
But either you're birthday or we're not celebrating. I travel
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on my birthday every year.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, And this is what's so funny is because if
we were talking about Alan's birthday too, and it's like,
I there's something that I want to do, and it's
like it's there's a bit of a scheduling thing and
I can't do it a couple days before because it's
not his birthday. Oh man, that's unfortunately, and putting that
on him and I don't even think he knows that
I'm still try to plan.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm like, well, and he's like, I don't care when
we celebrate my birthday. Let's celebrate.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I've never but again, I think it's just me and
this is just wild. My mind is blown.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
No, literally, like last year, we impromptu flew home on
my birthday because we were with the other half the duo.
Was fine, we were in Disney, but I'm like, this
is just doesn't feel like it's about me and I'm
not even that girl, but it's like I just am
like I don't want it to just I love birthdays
and I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's the one day you have.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I'm never upset, and this is hand on a bible.
I am never upset if someone forgets my birthday. I
promise It's not about how other people perceive my birthday.
It's just that I think it's the only day I
allow myself to do what I'd like to do. And
last year I could feel it starting to steer away
from that, and I was like, change of plans. We're
flying home, and we flew home on my birthday. I'll
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never do that again. It was great to be home
on my birthday, but I felt like I wasted my
precious birthday hours. TSA didn't even read the early enough
to know that it was my birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Give me the fly your.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Birthday what I was hoping for? You know, I am
the South.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You've got a birthday on board, like I didn't get any.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm just like, well, so you're telling me that in
February when it's your birthday. If we're like, we're going
to go to Cabo for a girl for your birthday
in March, you'll still consider that even if it's for
your birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm going for your birthday trip every year on my
birthday for the lasting your birthday. I don't, or I do,
or we've done it a different day, and that's an
ime for you. You've done it for me, and let's
let it be this year. I was supposed to fight
last year, flew my birthday. This year, I was supposed
to fly my birthday to the day before that it
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was your birthday. This is going to sound so bitchy
of me. No, I would not think about that. It
does sound a little bitchy of me, but I truly
just wouldn't think. Oh my god. The TSA person didn't
notice it was my birthday. Listen, I I would be upset,
and I'm the same page. I want acknowledgement on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I want to be told, oh, it's your birthday,
Happy birthday, and Britney Spears. I get it every time.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's fine. God, really, that's fine. She's fine sharing that.
But that's like what I know is coming next. Oh
it's Britney Stars birthday too. I'm like, I don't know,
happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Shout out today years old that I will happy Britney spears.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Everyone. I think that this is a very important topic
because knowing that I don't, I don't see birthdays the
same I've always known Jana has so I try to
make it like I try to do my best. But
now I know I didn't know this about you, so
there's a good chance I've never well, I don't know
that I have celebrated your birthday. Yeah, but you're it
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doesn't That's my whole thing. I don't care if anybody else.
I just want to do what I want to do
on that. Okay, that's fair. I mean I don't still
want to do what I want to be missed it if.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I wouldn't be sad. I wouldn't be like, how did
she read?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I've never been that.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Really good question though, to ask your spouse and your
best friend to say, does it bother you when we
don't celebrate something on your birthday or birthday weekend or
whatever it is?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm finding this thing for Alan
that has to be as you know, because I don't
want to be on his birthday.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now, I dope to me. Yes, I do still understand
even if he didn't care when he celebrated his birthday
to maybe not do the Christmas party. Yeah, that's still
a lot in his birthdays. But yeah, I have a
feeling Alan couldn't care less. I'm going to go with that. Yeah,
here's the selfish part of me. This is where because
I don't want it to sound like this, there's any
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like whatever, here's a selfish part of me. If I'm
busy on that day, I'm great with you still celebrating
me another day, you know what I mean? Like it
just takes it away. It's like not I just have
been able to on my birthday.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah. Plus I'm not a good liar. So at the restaurant,
they're like happy birthday. I was like, actually it was
six days ago. Like I'm just not very keeping things
very honest, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So then it just feels like another day. It's like
you get one day, only one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So does this mean I don't get a birthday party
this year?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You do? Is what's happening on? Like I'm gone, but
you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I guess you don't care about it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So answer is I get no birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We haven't been able to celebrate because you have been gone?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, so we did it? Was it last year or
two years ago? We did a game night?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We did a game night.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think that was two years ago. Yeah, because I
was traveling and I think it was a different day
and it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, well we do. We do need a time in
the group that does it. And I don't know, I know,
but what do we do about the birthday tomorrow? And
we all have we Okay, tomorrow, it's you guys. It's fine,
just as long as you call in text.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Here's a potster moment for we think we've already potstired
so much.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Today, but we've never celebrated my birthday as a queendom. No,
that's what I'm never I've never I remember a couple
of years ago, Presston planned something we weren't. We weren't
all invited. This was years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It was everywhere going to drive to your house last
year and you I was called out of town. I was, yeah,
I was calling Sarah and we were saying there was.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Some Christine's house because we're all now surprising each other
with the game nights, which I think is actually so
we were trying to do it and Sarah was like, no,
she's not what it was. You changed your you changed
the thing sown and then I was never going to
be intown.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're never going to be in town. That's what it
was last year. I have not so.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Mad about it, But it's not like I've never been
the one that's like, Okay, well when are we doing
my so?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Could you all be more flexible for us so we
have an excuse to get together, okay, but just can't
be on your birthday? But can we do something also
like a New Year's kickoff or some good You literally
can't even call it your birthday party if it's a
different day. Oh no, And I wouldn't want to wait
to hear people.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And this is interesting. This is a hot topic.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Also, like it's not I feel selfish if you were
like and then we're gonna like this isn't hanak, I'm
not having eight days of myself Like that's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I just get see that's where I'm selfish. I'm like, bitch,
we still doing it a couple of days. Let's go
it's birthday? Yeah like whatever?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, also, love is January fifth, so I only get like, well,
I have to cut my nof so we have that too.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, Like it's like two days, it's me two days,
you know, it's Nick two days. No, it's me two days, Nick,
two days, Cayden.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah. So I'm like everyone gets there, like gotta keep
it teddy. Yeah, Okay, Well that was just I'm so sorry, guys.
I just did not know all of this and that offended.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Though I want to be very clear, I'm just not
offended if it's not celebrated, like the can you celebrate
your birthday? Not on your birthday comment below? Uh so
I have a whine about it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Is this our pinned chat GPT whine about it? Or
another one? Save that? Keep saving that?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Are we gonna save it and then delete it? Because
that's my biggest fear if we don't get you fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But what I would like to delete is my chat GPT.
Let's do no, I mean, like my history. Oh, let's do.
There's my mind about it. I get frustrated when, Okay,
I've been here since twenty nineteen, in the summer of
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twenty nineteen. I've been here for six years.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You were here before that, though, Oh yeah, since you're back, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean I'm saying since the last time I
was Okay, so I was in LA for what two years?
I too, Italian little twoish years. Well, I was in
LA a long long time. I lived here for a
couple of years. And then yeah, and Nashville's obviously gotten
out of hand, traffic wise out of hand, ridiculously out
of hand, I though, get and I can't even imagine
(22:46):
you are a Ogi raised og. Yeah yeah, so I
can't even imagine how you might feel. And you might
not care. But this is this is what it bothers
me when people have moved here from let's say, California
or wherever, and then they complain about the traffic and saying,
all right, Nashville, well, we're full stop moving here when
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I'm like, you moved here, you came here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You can't actually say that. Yeah, you guys like I
are actually going.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
On stories to say like stop moving here, And I'm like,
you can't actually say you moved here three years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, you have no right to say, yeah, you're part
of it. Actually we want to give your U call back.
But like, I've been here eleven years and I won't
say that because I'm like, I didn't grow up here,
you know, Preston's been here like getting close to thirty
years almost.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I really think it's like five to seven is when
the big change really happened.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I feel like, especially in the last two or three,
it has gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh, I mean, the drive is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I don't know why. It just kind of bothered me
because I'm like, if you didn't originally come from here, yeah,
and you've only been here for a couple of years,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's almost like in those movies like Indiana Jones when
they like barely get through the gate, you know, and like, oh,
just by the skin of their teeth, and they make
it out and then they're like to turn around and
be like the rest of you can't come. You know,
it's like okay, wait a second, Like you don't get
to close the door. What that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, they don't. They don't have the right to say that,
for sure. I agree. Yeah, this is why I stay home.
I don't have to deal with the traffic. I mean,
I am like living out sixty five.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Got to wind about it, well, I think we've talked
about it before, but I'm sick of being stocked by
my dentist's office.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I am out. It is out of control. I mean,
my kid's teeth have not been cleaned because of these people.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Tiffany, stop calling me. Stop calling me and then texting
me afterwards. Hey, just left your voicemail.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You need to follow up.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There's nothing to follow up. I made the appointment. We
will see you.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
My mind is, hey, I tell I'll leave you a
message and say call me back. But don't you don't
give me a reason. I need a reason. Why are
you calling? Do I owe you money? Do we need
to reschedule because I'm already scheduled. Have I heard your
feeling and you're going to text me and say, hey,
I left you a voicemail. So if you can listen
to your voicemail and call. Have you not picked up
on the hint? I'm not calling you back until you
tell me what you want. They won't tell you what
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they want. It's like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's like the big meme that goes around that says,
this could have been an email, or this meeting could
have been an email.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It could have been a voicemail, This reminder Caul could
have been a text. I can't then, it's not efficient.
I can't do it anymore. I'm actually leaving because of it.
That dentist.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely, I gotta tell you, I'm getting close.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's bad.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And listen, if I was a delinquent, you should stalk
me to figure if I wasn't paining, if I wasn't
showing up, if I've missed appointments, like if I'm late.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, it's just reminders. Also like why why do
we need to talk? We don't need to.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Talk the reminder like everybody else do it? Oh sorry, gosh,
it fires me up, and like I don't have.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't want to say that. I just also don't
want to call you. I don't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Hey, girl, Like I I'm going to do what I do.
Just Hey girl, how you doing? Yeah like, okay, great,
we'll see you on that date at that time.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, speaking of I got a creepy phone call yesterday
and it terrified me. I got a message, not terrified me.
That's a litle dramatic. Got a voicemail is said, hey,
this is Deputy Deputy Hamilton from the Williamson County Sheriff's
Department calling you about a legal matter. Call me back
exactly what it said, scam. I immediately call back. The
(26:18):
voicemail is Deputy Hamilton, blah blah, leave a message, and
I was like, this phone number doesn't match up to
the whatever. So I called There's no Deputy Hamilton. So
what were they gonna? What was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I keep seeing this come out on our neighborhood Facebook
page that they're scamming, and.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's our local sheriff's department. They used in my name,
they used my name in the thing calling for Catherine
Wood a terrifying, terrifying, and so I called them. I
was like, do you have a deputy Deputy Hamilton. She's
like no, ma'am. I was like, well they called me
and she's like sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I know in our sweet parents. Can you imagine if
our parents, like Preston's parents, did they get that they're totary?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I thought someone was coming after me. Actually, I thought
maybe my kids were in jail there for a second.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But but that's also just not fair, like that's an
unneeded stomach game.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We don't need that, you guys.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So this is an interesting headline at egg freezing popularity
increasing among young women to preserve their fertility. So basically,
you know, obviously we know our eggs kind of start
to go a bit, but parents have started gifting egg
freezing to their daughters in their young twenties. What do
you think of gifting egg freezing to your daughters.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They're young twenties. Ooh, I don't know, I can see.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Is that something you do for your own daughters?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, I would rather nurture the idea that there is
no timeline. I think that this feels like a reaction
to this pressing clock issue of we have to have
babies by.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
A certain age.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
And maybe it's because I had my babies and all
geriatric ages, especially the last one. But I would rather
us nurture sure the idea that we aren't pressed and
that we can take our time and meet the right
person and there's no deadline. I understand. I understand the
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gift of it in the way that it takes the
pressure off. It's like, listen, now, just go live your life.
But like, maybe we just weave those two things together.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think, like, I think if my daughter was worried
about it and had come to me and was worried
about it and had expressed that, then yes, I would
have a discussion about it. I wouldn't just gift it, though,
because I feel like that would be could be received
a little like, why are you wanting me to freeze
my eggs? Do you not think I'm going to get married?
(28:40):
Do you not think I'm I don't know. I just
feels like that could be kind of weird, as like
a gift out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Though I think it's the conversation, yeah, you know, because
I mean, gosh, this one girl that was doing my hair,
she's twenty one, she's like, guys got engaged. And I
started to think about Jolie, and I'm like, oh, I
hope like she and I feel bad even thinking that thought,
because I'm sure nothing against people that get engaged young.
(29:06):
I mean you got engaged young. But also it's like
I also know the gift of waiting to when you're
older and sure, and so I just I don't but
I don't know the path that they're going to choose
their path and walk their walk with it all, and
I can just be there to help support and offer
my opinions on it, I guess. But when it comes
to that, I would just if she didn't want to
(29:29):
worry about it. And it's I mean, it's a like
twenty thousand dollars to freeze your eggs too, so it's
not an inexpensive thing, but to not have her worry
about it. But also yeah, to your point too, Christen,
it's more of like a let's just like maybe I
had roam in at forty, right, you know, like all
the time in the world, don't stress, don't don't know pressure.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, it does feel a little bit like pressure too,
like pressure and it's like, hey, I'm going to give
this to you since you haven't had any babies yet.
You know, it just feels a little.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think the Devil's advocate to that, to the so is.
I do have some friends that are now in their
early forties that never had a chance to have a baby,
and if they had that, maybe they would have done
it with getting a sperm downer and being able, because
now they they're just like, I'm never going to find anybody,
you know at this point and then I so closing
(30:18):
the door on kids has been difficult for them.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I mean that would be heartbreaking for me. Yeah, but
if you had this right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
At a certain point, maybe not young twenties, but at
a certain point, people that really want kids start thinking
that way and it becomes maybe more of a discussion,
like I am worried about this. Now I'm thirty something
years old. Let's freeze up the early twenties. Probably twenty
seems little. Yeah, you're still an egg yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What are you doing? So I feel like finances have
become a huge strain on my relationship with my husband.
When we first got married, he was the breadwinner, and now,
after some unfortunate roadbumps, I have had more success in
my career and that power has shifted to me. We
never had intimacy issues or problems communicating when he was
in charge of the money, but now that it is
coming from me, there are issues everywhere. He hasn't said
(31:05):
it directly, but I can tell that the shift has
made him question his identity and his role in our marriage.
I've tried to reassure him that I don't see him
any differently and that his worth to me has nothing
to do with income. But despite that, the tension is
still there. How can I heal the intimacy issues we're
having because he feels like his role as a man
is being questioned even though I'm not questioning it. So
(31:26):
I would just say, no matter how much your question
at all, it is a man's intuition. It is a
man's whole like being of being on this earth is
to provide for the woman. I mean, that's cave cave
madays of like I provide. I bring home the food
and the money and everything, and so it's it's not
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easy for guys to have the women be the breadwinner
no matter.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And my experience have had no problem. Yeah, there's still.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
They can say, but I think are still the majority
of men don't like that. I'd agree, and so I
think he has to find so he's tying his worth
into not There's nothing you honestly can say besides don't
harp on the fact that he's not bringing in the mindy,
So if you're making him feel which doesn't sound like
you are at all, but if you're like, oh well,
(32:18):
it'd be nice if I had help or stress. Like,
if you're throwing comments like that, then his worth is
going to go down and he's going to be stressed
and feel that pressure. But if you keep uplifting him
and if you can encourage him to find his purpose
outside of it and just know this is the season
and let him you know, and help him. Yeah, just
have you know his How do I say that? Like,
(32:40):
let him have his guys, So what am I trying
to say here?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Let him have like his feelings about it or I
don't know where.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I know, I'm getting tired. No, but just and just
let him have you know, like he has to figure
this peace out. But it's nothing that you can do
to change that besides just be there for him as
a good wife.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, I think even.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Just reinerating like how you couldn't do what you do
for the family if he wasn't a piece of it too,
you know, like Preston's really I know I'm not the
man of the house, but like he's obviously the breadwinner
for us and I always feel so valued in the
role that I play that makes him be able to
go do the things that he's doing. So even that
I think could be you know, I couldn't do my job,
(33:22):
or even just reiterating like the ebbs and flows right,
like in another five years he'll be back to doing
that maybe, and you're just saying, like, listen, this is
why we team work. In the season, I'm driving the
ship and I'm happy to hand it back over to you,
and I couldn't do it without you, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, that is hard though, And I also want
to say, like it is a gift that he feels
that way, because I have been in relationships where a
man just took and I was the breadwinner and it
was really not handsome.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So especially if they don't seem appreciative of it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, I guess I was appreciative, but also not
so appreciative that he was ready to go like grab
a job and help me out.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, So I do think to change it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, I think it's really like a hot it's hot
to me that he wants to provide and that that
is frustrating because the opposite is not cute, not cute
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, ladies, this was a fun one. Last time we
talked to you at forty one. Oh alright, guys, all
right bye
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, guys, hi coming into December. How fun is this
the big kickoff? The big kickoff to all the things?
It's funny because we want to do things together as
a group, and so I text them like, hey, guys,
what are you guys doing for New Year's Because it's
like I got to start planning. Yes, yep, I gotta
(00:27):
you know, and we gotta in like cheek Wood. I'm like,
who wants to come to cheek Wood? Because we love
There's certain things that I love to do with the kids,
like Gaylord Opryland and the nut recer Tee and yeah,
you know all the things. So it's just the.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
The tradition list is a lot for us. Like I
actually have a note in my phone so that I
don't forget anything. But it's like the drive through lights
and then it's cheek Wood and feed the reindeer and
go see Santa and don't forget.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
For the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, I haven't been there either, Okay, yes, I like
ever we go every year and they haven't been there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Why have it's been like four years? They haven't been there?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Weird?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Where were they right in the very beginning?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh at aprey Land, Nope, Oh at cheek would Oh yeah,
I've never done the cheek wood thing. Send me the
send me when you're going, though, I would like to
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh great, I'm just like putting on there something if
people that's.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Perfect joined well, that was going to be my next thing.
This is what we have to learn. I've learned this
well kind of trying. When we want everyone to do something,
we just have to plan it and say this is
when I'm going, let me know if you want to go. Yeah,
it's too hard. Yeah, we can't plan, even though you
have to for certain things like New Years and stuff
like that. So I totally understand it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But I know I've been feeling like I want to
do a holiday party, but I don't. It's so it's
so difficult because I'm even wanting to do. I know
you're about to say we have it planned.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, I wasn't say don't cancel.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well it's Allan's birthday, and I just am like I
kind of want to separate it. Mm hm, fair you
know what I mean, because it's like the party. I
want it to be holiday to have.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, that's fair a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Party, and like it'll just feel like I'm inviting all
of my closest friends, right and some close neighbors that
that felt it started to feel a little bit selfish.
I actually called KB this morning and was just kind
of running through I'm like this. He's like, well, what
would you think he'd want to do? And I'm like,
probably not be around him. He loves everybody and he
loves Nick and.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Course of course, yeah, yeah, that's not It's just I
love a separated I am such a close to Christmas
birthday that I and so is love. I'm so absolutely
intentional about the separation because holidays and our birthdays it
just feels so lumped together. But the problem is is
when we're going through it, I'm like, look, there's another
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day compressed and do it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There's like literally no time. So it's just.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I do closer to Christmas like snugly, like a
little early said.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There is no possible way we don't have a day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well we don't.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We are just not done with all of our holiday
stuff until the twenty third.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean since Christmas Eve. We can't do Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But we're in town, you know, so like he's not.
I mean you guys, when I tell you December, I
made the declaration on this podcast that I was going
to be joyful and I'm going to try to find
it and I'm not giving up on that. I'm not
giving but my goodness, it's full.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So I'm not fool. So I would like some plans. Well, no,
I even was.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I even said to Alan, and I said, this is
so not like me. So I was like, let me
just start with that, I said, but there was a
piece of me that even wanted to do open the
house up for the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh what do you mean? Open the house up for
the neighbor So like an actual open house, like a
like a holiday.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We used to do this back in our neighborhood. So
it was one place would do appetizers, one place would
do dinner, and then one he used to do a dessert.
And it was something that we did in our neighborhood.
That was something that I loved as a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's adorable. Actually, yeah, I've heard people do that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, and a lot of times it was for the adults.
But when as I got older, I just still remembering
it was cool when all the adults came to our
house and we would like spy on them and like,
you know, right, So I just thought that could be
like do something like that, and there's a piece of
me that's as excluded as I want to be. There
are some people that have moved in that I'm like,
(04:19):
this would be fun to have more of a community
hang with people kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yes, But then also no, I know, but like take birthday.
Kat would like to separate that because I mean, as
long as I'm invited to that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think if he was to throw a soccer party
on my birthday, oh of.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Course, I mean I get it, trust me, I do
get it. I mean absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So that's where again I know that it's all of
our friends, and I do want to separate it because I.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, but we have to find a day for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
We do, and that's dealing with her calendar.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, I can come to anything, right, It's just yeah,
we were you know, couples of things.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But so anyway, that is just kind of like my vibe.
I've been thinking about it. I don't know if I
want to do it, because it sounds fun. Everything sounds
fun in the moment, right for.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The night of I'll be honest, that is one that
I would totally be sick that day. I mean, I
don't can you own house like exactly, it wouldn't. That's
why I could not plan something like that. I could come,
but I could not plan something like that. I'm just
being honest.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Especially appetizers are canceled, you guys can just double up
at the smith's house.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I could never commit to that on the front end
because I know in that day I will I would
want to cry. Yeah, I feel though, because you like
to have people in your home.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I do, but I'm not also the person that I am,
not the person like Pam or Kristen that brings over
the cutest picking chircoutery board. Like I'm not that human either.
I'm like, here's my paper plates, but welcome to my
home and let's have some fun. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think that's way more inviting. That's why we love it,
not saying we don't don't love it, but that's why
we like to do a dress code at certain places.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't do well with the d I don't do
dress code also do well saying bring this kind of
desserve with I was like, I have to pay someone
I'm out. You can't give me fifteen hurdles and seventeen
bullet points.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's already a miracle. I went like thirty minutes out
of my way spend one hundred dollars to get said
thing to bring to the party because I couldn't do
it on my own. Now that's my personality. I'd rather
just do that. But I think it's just again, what
sounds great in the moment, would it be great in reality?
(06:40):
In that moment?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And That's what I'm really trying to understand, because there
are other things that I'm you know, I'm trying to plan,
you know, his birthday something, you know, and I'm like,
this sounds like a good idea, But am I do
I do we want to do that? It's like, in
this moment, this that sounds so great, and that sounds
so great to have some neighbors come over and you know,
(07:01):
get everyone to maybe chill and hang out. But then
it could be awful and then I won't want to
do it in the reality of that moment. And so
it's I'm kind of stuck in the what do I do?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It could go either way?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I well, I think we all know where.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I I don't know where you stand. I could see
you like this label party. What are you talking about?
Well I haven't committed. Yes, oh, Kristen, Well it's gonna happen.
It'll happen on the date that it's going to happen.
I'm gonna need you to commit if you're actually hosting it.
She literally said, well, I'm hosting a Christmas party that day. Well,
I'm gonna have to host it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
No, whether I host it at my house or I
host it at a location, I'm hosting it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I see, because well that's what I'm saying you you
are a great host. Yes, that's why I do say.
I could see you loving this.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, but no, you guys, I will just say this.
I just have got to guard the days close to Christmas,
is what I've learned. I think it's all fun and
it sounds amazing and do I want.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
To do of course, then it's stressful. It's just the days.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Run out and then all of a sudden, it's like
something every day and in your sandwiching in between, like
love is in the Nutcracker this year, which is going
to be incredible. But that's a full day in December
and the day before is a full day of rehearsal
and we're having the grandparents come in, so then the
days before that are me hosting the grandparents so that
they can be here.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because it's such a.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Big deal and I love all of that, but I'm
also like, where where do I exist in that?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like I don't want to be the tired, frazzled mom.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That's just like give me a December twenty six because
we're missing the whole Prince of Peace issue.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you know, like where is like.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
The calm and the holy night and the sweetness and
sometimes the piling knot of traditions just becomes a to
do list. And I'm like so and because it's my
own deal that I love traditions and I don't want
to miss a year, and every year we take our
picture by this tree, I'm this, you know, it's like
I've just started to go, Okay, well, maybe this year
we won't get to cheek Wood, and maybe this year
we haven't done opry Land because it got a little
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too expensive for our family. To be honest, it just
was like a full day and then a sleepover and
then it was and it just I'm looking at Preston like,
if we're going to spend a thousand dollars, I'd rather
go somewhere, you know. And so we've kind of taken
that off the plate, and I just needed to like
have some breathing room, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah. See, my problem is kind of both, like we
do don't do all of that because my kids have
gotten older. So we do a few things, but then
I get to a point where I'm like, well, this
is kind of depressing because everyone's going here and going
there and doing this with their young kids. And you know, yeah,
my kids are busy and we're like keeping up with stuff,
but it's like, man, did we do a whole lot
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of Christmas? Like? So that's where I struggle because it's
like I need that happy medium.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What is your favorite thing to do with the family
for Christmas time?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I mean we used to love apry Land. I mean
that's what we would do, But the kids are older
now and it's not fun for them.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So what would be fun for you guys? Now, that's
a good question, and then find that right now, and
I see it's hard and just find one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, we you need to for sure. I mean, we
definitely still have our like family traditions where we go
to church, and then that's still probably our favorite, you know,
going to church on Christmas Eve, going over to my
in laws Christmas Eve, like we love that, you know,
and all of that. As they get older, the other
stuff like that isn't as fun anymore. I mean it's
not that it's not fun, but like they're just older,
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and it's like the schedules is not how you do it.
With the schedules, it gets I mean, and they calmed down.
I mean, you know, they don't with school sports and stuff.
You're shut down now as.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're going hard in the paint for a while, so
we can't really.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Do that in school. Like in like if if you're
out of there's some exceptions and stuff, but generally, if
you're out of school, like you're not doing sports. You know,
playoffs may go into a holiday, they may do whatever,
but generally, if you're at weekend, you're not really doing
a whole lot of We're kind of off. So I
don't know, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Cat?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I know I'm going to look and see when Jana's
going to cheek Wood and I'm going to take y
I'm going to go join her.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Me.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
First, Oh, night's Sammy's birthday, so maybe not fun birthday
moment though. I don't know that my thirteen fourteen year
old will want to go to cheek Wood for her birthday.
Well it's only an hour, you are true and for
an hour. Yeah, that's true and cool. We're gonna have
the party. We're gonna have her party the night before.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Speaking of birthdays, I got a forty two coming up
here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Do what are we doing? It's Jana Eve.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Can I just say one of my favorite memories is
still last year's birthday. You guys walking up that no idea,
you guys were coming, the zero idea.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That was the best.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
What I don't like is team you up to think
we're not coming because all day I'm like, she doesn't
like God, she's sad.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We made her sad. She thinks I don't care.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's hard on us, I know, because I'm like, how
much do you think she's like really.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Gonna need you? Because it's not that birthdays mean more
to you, but they do. They do. But I love
that about you. Like love that, so I.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Love to go to last last year it was Alan's like,
what do you want to do? For your birthday, and
I said, I just want to have dinner with the kids,
because I've started to not make it be such a
big deal really, like I have started to just make
it not a thing. I don't get upset anymore on
my birthday, like I don't because he usually all cry
and be like, oh, I'm not where I want to be,
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you know. And now it's like I have beautiful kids
and husband and family and kids and friends, so it's
I don't get upset. I still. So that's why last
year I was totally fine. Even when you're like, wait,
you guys aren't granted dinner, I'm like, no, I'm genuinely
I asked for a just a nice dinner with the
family in the dining room. It's my favorite room. We
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never eat in. I would love that. Yeah, And it
was great, and then you guys came over and it
was like such a cherry on top.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
We actually, I like, have I don't know that I've
that sad, But I don't know if I've left that
hard in a year.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So so unexpected and so fun. Yeah, you can't plan
it's so great, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So are we going to ruin your birthday? I was
going to say the thing that's so great about your
or I need your birthday to be on like the
perfect day every year. Is the problem because you like
to have your birthday stuff on your birth So.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's the weird thing about me.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's where you're difference.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
This is where I'm so different. I have to have
it celebrated. So like, Okay, my fortieth birthday, I believe
it fell on a Friday, right, I did it did? Yeah,
And that's great because I couldn't have celebrated it if
it was If my birthday fell on a Tuesday and
it was my fortieth, I could not have done a
Saturday fortieth birthday party. Same human, Really January third or
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forget it, and it's fine, Like if we missed it,
we're just moving on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my god, I thought it was the only one.
Now it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm like, I thought my birthday one, and I won't
blow out a candle the day before. I'm not making
any wishes and that's lovely, like it's good tea, yup.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But this is so wild to me because I genuinely thought,
like I would not speak this out into existence, because
I've felt crazy for thinking that because for example, one
of my really fun neighbors. She's like, oh, yeah, we're
gonna go celebrate my fortieth and I was like, oh,
your birthday. She's like, well, it was a couple months ago,
and I was like, then, it's not your fortieth birthday trip, Like, no,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, it's not. It's just it's not it's not on
the same day, and it throws me off. It's just
a trip. I also.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Love.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is the fifth that's screwing you over? Totally? Yes? I
wait second this year, everybody, that's what I's fine. It's
not literally saying it's not fine. It is fine. We
don't have to celebrate my birthday. See, I don't like that.
But either you're birthday or we're not celebrating. I travel
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on my birthday every year.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, And this is what's so funny is because if
we were talking about Alan's birthday too, and it's like,
I there's something that I want to do, and it's
like it's there's a bit of a scheduling thing and
I can't do it a couple days before because it's
not his birthday. Oh man, that's unfortunately, and putting that
on him and I don't even think he knows that
I'm still try to plan.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm like, well, and he's like, I don't care when
we celebrate my birthday. Let's celebrate.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I've never but again, I think it's just me and
this is just wild. My mind is blown.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
No, literally, like last year, we impromptu flew home on
my birthday because we were with the other half the duo.
Was fine, we were in Disney, but I'm like, this
is just doesn't feel like it's about me and I'm
not even that girl, but it's like I just am
like I don't want it to just I love birthdays
and I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's the one day you have.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I'm never upset, and this is hand on a bible.
I am never upset if someone forgets my birthday. I
promise It's not about how other people perceive my birthday.
It's just that I think it's the only day I
allow myself to do what I'd like to do. And
last year I could feel it starting to steer away
from that, and I was like, change of plans. We're
flying home, and we flew home on my birthday. I'll
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never do that again. It was great to be home
on my birthday, but I felt like I wasted my
precious birthday hours. TSA didn't even read the early enough
to know that it was my birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Give me the fly your.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Birthday what I was hoping for? You know, I am
the South.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You've got a birthday on board, like I didn't get any.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm just like, well, so you're telling me that in
February when it's your birthday. If we're like, we're going
to go to Cabo for a girl for your birthday
in March, you'll still consider that even if it's for
your birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm going for your birthday trip every year on my
birthday for the lasting your birthday. I don't, or I do,
or we've done it a different day, and that's an
ime for you. You've done it for me, and let's
let it be this year. I was supposed to fight
last year, flew my birthday. This year, I was supposed
to fly my birthday to the day before that it
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was your birthday. This is going to sound so bitchy
of me. No, I would not think about that. It
does sound a little bitchy of me, but I truly
just wouldn't think. Oh my god. The TSA person didn't
notice it was my birthday. Listen, I I would be upset,
and I'm the same page. I want acknowledgement on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I want to be told, oh, it's your birthday,
Happy birthday, and Britney Spears. I get it every time.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's fine. God, really, that's fine. She's fine sharing that.
But that's like what I know is coming next. Oh
it's Britney Stars birthday too. I'm like, I don't know,
happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Shout out today years old that I will happy Britney spears.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Everyone. I think that this is a very important topic
because knowing that I don't, I don't see birthdays the
same I've always known Jana has so I try to
make it like I try to do my best. But
now I know I didn't know this about you, so
there's a good chance I've never well, I don't know
that I have celebrated your birthday. Yeah, but you're it
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doesn't That's my whole thing. I don't care if anybody else.
I just want to do what I want to do
on that. Okay, that's fair. I mean I don't still
want to do what I want to be missed it if.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I wouldn't be sad. I wouldn't be like, how did
she read?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I've never been that.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Really good question though, to ask your spouse and your
best friend to say, does it bother you when we
don't celebrate something on your birthday or birthday weekend or
whatever it is?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm finding this thing for Alan
that has to be as you know, because I don't
want to be on his birthday.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now, I dope to me. Yes, I do still understand
even if he didn't care when he celebrated his birthday
to maybe not do the Christmas party. Yeah, that's still
a lot in his birthdays. But yeah, I have a
feeling Alan couldn't care less. I'm going to go with that. Yeah,
here's the selfish part of me. This is where because
I don't want it to sound like this, there's any
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like whatever, here's a selfish part of me. If I'm
busy on that day, I'm great with you still celebrating
me another day, you know what I mean? Like it
just takes it away. It's like not I just have
been able to on my birthday.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah. Plus I'm not a good liar. So at the restaurant,
they're like happy birthday. I was like, actually it was
six days ago. Like I'm just not very keeping things
very honest, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So then it just feels like another day. It's like
you get one day, only one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So does this mean I don't get a birthday party
this year?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You do? Is what's happening on? Like I'm gone, but
you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I guess you don't care about it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So answer is I get no birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
We haven't been able to celebrate because you have been gone?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, so we did it? Was it last year or
two years ago? We did a game night?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We did a game night.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think that was two years ago. Yeah, because I
was traveling and I think it was a different day
and it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, well we do. We do need a time in
the group that does it. And I don't know, I know,
but what do we do about the birthday tomorrow? And
we all have we Okay, tomorrow, it's you guys. It's fine,
just as long as you call in text.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Here's a potster moment for we think we've already potstired
so much.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Today, but we've never celebrated my birthday as a queendom. No,
that's what I'm never I've never I remember a couple
of years ago, Presston planned something we weren't. We weren't
all invited. This was years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It was everywhere going to drive to your house last
year and you I was called out of town. I was, yeah,
I was calling Sarah and we were saying there was.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Some Christine's house because we're all now surprising each other
with the game nights, which I think is actually so
we were trying to do it and Sarah was like, no,
she's not what it was. You changed your you changed
the thing sown and then I was never going to
be intown.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You're never going to be in town. That's what it
was last year. I have not so.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Mad about it, But it's not like I've never been
the one that's like, Okay, well when are we doing
my so?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Could you all be more flexible for us so we
have an excuse to get together, okay, but just can't
be on your birthday? But can we do something also
like a New Year's kickoff or some good You literally
can't even call it your birthday party if it's a
different day. Oh no, And I wouldn't want to wait
to hear people.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And this is interesting. This is a hot topic.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Also, like it's not I feel selfish if you were
like and then we're gonna like this isn't hanak, I'm
not having eight days of myself Like that's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I just get see that's where I'm selfish. I'm like, bitch,
we still doing it a couple of days. Let's go
it's birthday? Yeah like whatever?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, also, love is January fifth, so I only get like, well,
I have to cut my nof so we have that too.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, Like it's like two days, it's me two days,
you know, it's Nick two days. No, it's me two days, Nick,
two days, Cayden.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah. So I'm like everyone gets there, like gotta keep
it teddy. Yeah, Okay, Well that was just I'm so sorry, guys.
I just did not know all of this and that offended.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Though I want to be very clear, I'm just not
offended if it's not celebrated, like the can you celebrate
your birthday? Not on your birthday comment below? Uh so
I have a whine about it?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Is this our pinned chat GPT whine about it? Or
another one? Save that? Keep saving that?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Are we gonna save it and then delete it? Because
that's my biggest fear if we don't get you fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But what I would like to delete is my chat GPT.
Let's do no, I mean, like my history. Oh, let's do.
There's my mind about it. I get frustrated when, Okay,
I've been here since twenty nineteen, in the summer of
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twenty nineteen. I've been here for six years.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You were here before that, though, Oh yeah, since you're back, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, I mean I'm saying since the last time I
was Okay, so I was in LA for what two years?
I too, Italian little twoish years. Well, I was in
LA a long long time. I lived here for a
couple of years. And then yeah, and Nashville's obviously gotten
out of hand, traffic wise out of hand, ridiculously out
of hand, I though, get and I can't even imagine
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you are a Ogi raised og. Yeah yeah, so I
can't even imagine how you might feel. And you might
not care. But this is this is what it bothers
me when people have moved here from let's say, California
or wherever, and then they complain about the traffic and saying,
all right, Nashville, well, we're full stop moving here when
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I'm like, you moved here, you came here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You can't actually say that. Yeah, you guys like I
are actually going.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
On stories to say like stop moving here, And I'm like,
you can't actually say you moved here three years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, you have no right to say, yeah, you're part
of it. Actually we want to give your U call back.
But like, I've been here eleven years and I won't
say that because I'm like, I didn't grow up here,
you know, Preston's been here like getting close to thirty
years almost.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I really think it's like five to seven is when
the big change really happened.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I feel like, especially in the last two or three,
it has gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh, I mean, the drive is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I don't know why. It just kind of bothered me
because I'm like, if you didn't originally come from here, yeah,
and you've only been here for a couple of years,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's almost like in those movies like Indiana Jones when
they like barely get through the gate, you know, and like, oh,
just by the skin of their teeth, and they make
it out and then they're like to turn around and
be like the rest of you can't come. You know,
it's like okay, wait a second, Like you don't get
to close the door. What that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, they don't. They don't have the right to say that,
for sure. I agree. Yeah, this is why I stay home.
I don't have to deal with the traffic. I mean,
I am like living out sixty five.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Got to wind about it, well, I think we've talked
about it before, but I'm sick of being stocked by
my dentist's office.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I am out. It is out of control. I mean,
my kid's teeth have not been cleaned because of these people.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Tiffany, stop calling me. Stop calling me and then texting
me afterwards. Hey, just left your voicemail.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You need to follow up.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There's nothing to follow up. I made the appointment. We
will see you.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
My mind is, hey, I tell I'll leave you a
message and say call me back. But don't you don't
give me a reason. I need a reason. Why are
you calling? Do I owe you money? Do we need
to reschedule because I'm already scheduled. Have I heard your
feeling and you're going to text me and say, hey,
I left you a voicemail. So if you can listen
to your voicemail and call. Have you not picked up
on the hint? I'm not calling you back until you
tell me what you want. They won't tell you what
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they want. It's like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's like the big meme that goes around that says,
this could have been an email, or this meeting could
have been an email.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
It could have been a voicemail, This reminder Caul could
have been a text. I can't then, it's not efficient.
I can't do it anymore. I'm actually leaving because of it.
That dentist.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely, I gotta tell you, I'm getting close.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's bad.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And listen, if I was a delinquent, you should stalk
me to figure if I wasn't paining, if I wasn't
showing up, if I've missed appointments, like if I'm late.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, it's just reminders. Also like why why do
we need to talk? We don't need to.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Talk the reminder like everybody else do it? Oh sorry, gosh,
it fires me up, and like I don't have.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't want to say that. I just also don't
want to call you. I don't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Hey, girl, Like I I'm going to do what I do.
Just Hey girl, how you doing? Yeah like, okay, great,
we'll see you on that date at that time.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, speaking of I got a creepy phone call yesterday
and it terrified me. I got a message, not terrified me.
That's a litle dramatic. Got a voicemail is said, hey,
this is Deputy Deputy Hamilton from the Williamson County Sheriff's
Department calling you about a legal matter. Call me back
exactly what it said, scam. I immediately call back. The
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voicemail is Deputy Hamilton, blah blah, leave a message, and
I was like, this phone number doesn't match up to
the whatever. So I called There's no Deputy Hamilton. So
what were they gonna? What was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I keep seeing this come out on our neighborhood Facebook
page that they're scamming, and.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's our local sheriff's department. They used in my name,
they used my name in the thing calling for Catherine
Wood a terrifying, terrifying, and so I called them. I
was like, do you have a deputy Deputy Hamilton. She's
like no, ma'am. I was like, well they called me
and she's like sorry.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I know in our sweet parents. Can you imagine if
our parents, like Preston's parents, did they get that they're totary?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I thought someone was coming after me. Actually, I thought
maybe my kids were in jail there for a second.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But but that's also just not fair, like that's an
unneeded stomach game.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We don't need that, you guys.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So this is an interesting headline at egg freezing popularity
increasing among young women to preserve their fertility. So basically,
you know, obviously we know our eggs kind of start
to go a bit, but parents have started gifting egg
freezing to their daughters in their young twenties. What do
you think of gifting egg freezing to your daughters.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They're young twenties. Ooh, I don't know, I can see.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Is that something you do for your own daughters?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, I would rather nurture the idea that there is
no timeline. I think that this feels like a reaction
to this pressing clock issue of we have to have
babies by.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
A certain age.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
And maybe it's because I had my babies and all
geriatric ages, especially the last one. But I would rather
us nurture sure the idea that we aren't pressed and
that we can take our time and meet the right
person and there's no deadline. I understand. I understand the
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gift of it in the way that it takes the
pressure off. It's like, listen, now, just go live your life.
But like, maybe we just weave those two things together.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think, like, I think if my daughter was worried
about it and had come to me and was worried
about it and had expressed that, then yes, I would
have a discussion about it. I wouldn't just gift it, though,
because I feel like that would be could be received
a little like, why are you wanting me to freeze
my eggs? Do you not think I'm going to get married?
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Do you not think I'm I don't know. I just
feels like that could be kind of weird, as like
a gift out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Though I think it's the conversation, yeah, you know, because
I mean, gosh, this one girl that was doing my hair,
she's twenty one, she's like, guys got engaged. And I
started to think about Jolie, and I'm like, oh, I
hope like she and I feel bad even thinking that thought,
because I'm sure nothing against people that get engaged young.
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I mean you got engaged young. But also it's like
I also know the gift of waiting to when you're
older and sure, and so I just I don't but
I don't know the path that they're going to choose
their path and walk their walk with it all, and
I can just be there to help support and offer
my opinions on it, I guess. But when it comes
to that, I would just if she didn't want to
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worry about it. And it's I mean, it's a like
twenty thousand dollars to freeze your eggs too, so it's
not an inexpensive thing, but to not have her worry
about it. But also yeah, to your point too, Christen,
it's more of like a let's just like maybe I
had roam in at forty, right, you know, like all
the time in the world, don't stress, don't don't know pressure.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, it does feel a little bit like pressure too,
like pressure and it's like, hey, I'm going to give
this to you since you haven't had any babies yet.
You know, it just feels a little.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think the Devil's advocate to that, to the so is.
I do have some friends that are now in their
early forties that never had a chance to have a baby,
and if they had that, maybe they would have done
it with getting a sperm downer and being able, because
now they they're just like, I'm never going to find anybody,
you know at this point and then I so closing
(30:18):
the door on kids has been difficult for them.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I mean that would be heartbreaking for me. Yeah, but
if you had this right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
At a certain point, maybe not young twenties, but at
a certain point, people that really want kids start thinking
that way and it becomes maybe more of a discussion,
like I am worried about this. Now I'm thirty something
years old. Let's freeze up the early twenties. Probably twenty
seems little. Yeah, you're still an egg yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What are you doing? So I feel like finances have
become a huge strain on my relationship with my husband.
When we first got married, he was the breadwinner, and now,
after some unfortunate roadbumps, I have had more success in
my career and that power has shifted to me. We
never had intimacy issues or problems communicating when he was
in charge of the money, but now that it is
coming from me, there are issues everywhere. He hasn't said
(31:05):
it directly, but I can tell that the shift has
made him question his identity and his role in our marriage.
I've tried to reassure him that I don't see him
any differently and that his worth to me has nothing
to do with income. But despite that, the tension is
still there. How can I heal the intimacy issues we're
having because he feels like his role as a man
is being questioned even though I'm not questioning it. So
(31:26):
I would just say, no matter how much your question
at all, it is a man's intuition. It is a
man's whole like being of being on this earth is
to provide for the woman. I mean, that's cave cave
madays of like I provide. I bring home the food
and the money and everything, and so it's it's not
(31:46):
easy for guys to have the women be the breadwinner
no matter.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And my experience have had no problem. Yeah, there's still.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
They can say, but I think are still the majority
of men don't like that. I'd agree, and so I
think he has to find so he's tying his worth
into not There's nothing you honestly can say besides don't
harp on the fact that he's not bringing in the mindy,
So if you're making him feel which doesn't sound like
you are at all, but if you're like, oh well,
(32:18):
it'd be nice if I had help or stress. Like,
if you're throwing comments like that, then his worth is
going to go down and he's going to be stressed
and feel that pressure. But if you keep uplifting him
and if you can encourage him to find his purpose
outside of it and just know this is the season
and let him you know, and help him. Yeah, just
have you know his How do I say that? Like,
(32:40):
let him have his guys, So what am I trying
to say here?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Let him have like his feelings about it or I
don't know where.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I know, I'm getting tired. No, but just and just
let him have you know, like he has to figure
this peace out. But it's nothing that you can do
to change that besides just be there for him as
a good wife.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, I think even.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Just reinerating like how you couldn't do what you do
for the family if he wasn't a piece of it too,
you know, like Preston's really I know I'm not the
man of the house, but like he's obviously the breadwinner
for us and I always feel so valued in the
role that I play that makes him be able to
go do the things that he's doing. So even that
I think could be you know, I couldn't do my job,
(33:22):
or even just reiterating like the ebbs and flows right,
like in another five years he'll be back to doing
that maybe, and you're just saying, like, listen, this is
why we team work. In the season, I'm driving the
ship and I'm happy to hand it back over to you,
and I couldn't do it without you, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, that is hard though, And I also want
to say, like it is a gift that he feels
that way, because I have been in relationships where a
man just took and I was the breadwinner and it
was really not handsome.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So especially if they don't seem appreciative of it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, I guess I was appreciative, but also not
so appreciative that he was ready to go like grab
a job and help me out.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, So I do think to change it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, I think it's really like a hot it's hot
to me that he wants to provide and that that
is frustrating because the opposite is not cute, not cute
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, ladies, this was a fun one. Last time we
talked to you at forty one. Oh alright, guys, all
right bye
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