July 28, 2025 • 36 mins
If you’re married, you know the struggle of how to balance chores around the house, but we’re still trying to figure out how to avoid the “nagging” label.
We break down the Coldplay Jumbotron cheating scandal, which reminds Jana of a situation she was very close to, where a publicly cheating man lost a job on a certain podcast… find out what REALLY went down!
Plus, what can Jana do to help Allan find different terminology to discuss “requests”?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast
Welcome back from Alaska, Hy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I love going from sixty seventy well, sixty degree weather
to one hundred. It was sixty yeah, which was funny
because I like in the photos, I feel like I
looked like I was in thirty and everyone else looked
like they were in sixty because I was so cold.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It looked windy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well that first day when you went outside was definitely windy,
but yeah, days were, but it was beautiful. So it
like never is sunny there ever, like hardly ever, Like
when we got there to Juno, they were like, this
is the fifth sunny day, like the sixth sunniest day
in like five months.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So anyways, we had a lot of sun. So it
was great. Do I call myself out? Oh the text? Yeah?
Say fine, I feel like I yeah, call yourself phone?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What would you do?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well? I missed you, KitKat y'all got busy while I
was gone.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But anyway, I was confused because Catherine was like posting Seattle,
Well we flew into see and then you were in Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, And then I was like where actually is she?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So like I looked on the map and then like
for some reason, I was like I didn't realize Alaska
was like can right there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I thought it was like above Canada. I mean I
haven't really think that too actually, Like I was like,
it is right there, like next to it. I pulp
a map, I sing her like. I was like, I
feel stupid. Don't feel stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I felt the same way because the second day in
our excursion, they're like, you have to have your passport,
we're going into Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I'm like, what, how are we going into Canada?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And we did.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We went.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We had to go through customs and go through Canada.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, so it's literally like looking you know at like
I was like, please send me like here I am
And I was like wait what, Like I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I just I just didn't realize we'd be three hours behind.
That killed me. I don't know, the difference in the
two and the three just really messed me up and
carried the two and the three.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Listen, if it speaks to the miss Education department, Jane
and I would just like to say we're really sorry
about our geographical mishaps.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, and then it's like late like in Michigan, you know,
it's like dark, so late. Anyway, so I was up
till one thirty, two thirty last night.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I can't was it fun? It was a lot of fun.
Are you happy you went? I am very happy. I
went to do it again. I love my in laws.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was great with the family, that was awesome. I'm
so thankful for them. They paid for this trip for us.
I am not a cruise person, and I don't say
that they love cruises.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's not my jam. People love cruising, love cruising. It's
like a thing. Our neighbors cruise. They're cruising right now.
They love it. I get it because it's easy. You
can just go to those shops.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But like you know, I was ready to be home
when we were done at our last stop, but we
still had like, you know, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Go on get a boat? Can you do mile an
hour boat? You know back? And then you have a
long flight back and then yeah, well and then we did.
Then we were coming home.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That was honestly, the most eventful part was coming home
because we were I mean, it was so smooth, it
was all great. Cayden was coming to pick us up,
which I was already a little nervous about because he
used to do the airport. And I'm like, all right, buddy,
we're landing gear comes down. We were going down landing gear.
And I'm like, hey, buddy, if you haven't left yet,
go ahead and leave. Probably a good time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So he gets on the road and all of a sudden,
the plane starts going back up.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
No, and I'm like, bhe, by way, that is the
worst feeling ever when the plane's about to land and
then you go back up.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, well, and you can't see anything because it all
of a sudden got real dark. Was it storming out
of literally nowhere, but out of nowhere landing? Like were
you close to the ground? I don't know how close
we were, ok, I and our landing gear was up, so,
but I don't know how close we were because you
couldn't see so and then I looked back and because
we start going back up, and I'll look back and
you can literally see like a lightning strike right behind us.
(03:43):
But anyway, it was just a pop up, really bad storm.
So they literally closed Nashville Airport. They're like you can't land.
So we go back up and they're like fly around
for a while and they're like, all right, We're going
to Birmingham, and I was like, okay, Kayden, go home.
So so we had to go to Birmingham and then
come back.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, which is just frustrating when you came home. Yeah
and you've been gone a long time. Yeah. Yeah. So
but it was all good.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Everyone was great. It was great to spend time with
my in laws. Alaska is beautiful? Is it worth going
to I would do it differently, I again, because I
would just go to different places and find you know,
when you go on a cruise, you're just kind of
at the port or an excursion. You don't have much
of a choice to do else other things. I would
(04:25):
go to different cities, do some more like get in there,
like get in the woods, like go fishing, you know,
like it was more touristy kind of seeing my.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Ninety year old beautiful was to go to Alaska. My
grandma went to Alaska. But I still have her jacket
from the cruise show. Wow she was so she loved it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, older people too. It's much easier to do the cruises,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't want to be stuck. No you and it's
all I did one and I think I'm done. Guys,
remember when I went on a cruise. Didn't we talk
about this? And I was afraid of the pirates? Yes, yeah,
right at the pirates.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well we went on one.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We went on. We went on the Blake Shelton cruise
and that was actually fun, but I wouldn't want to
do it again.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, and we weren't there very long. No, And that's
what I kept. And that was the biggest room and
a cruise I've ever been in. Not that it was
that big, but they're just so small, you know. That
was a bigger room. We had like VIP like all
the things. So I'm here like but again, also with
a cold cruise, it's not like you go outside and
really sit by the pool, true, so you're really kind
(05:28):
of I just basically spent all my time at the
casino and I was up and that was fun.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So fun. Anyway, big again. Do y'all probably already talked
about your trip, didn't you, Montana? Yeah we did. Okay, Well,
I'll get all your info then off, fine, since you'll
talked about it about me? Was my dog? I wanted
to know all the details. I know I'm dying, but
it's fine. Yeah, girls, what's up? Four mones.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh, Laura, help me going for blood work on Friday
for the really us, I can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Like I'm mostly tired, very tired. Are you still taking testosterone?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, just a big shift.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't know what's happening sometimes very mogesterone and estrogen
dips and yeah, I don't know. They're like a strip.
We can peon just to know and just handle it
on site. Really something. Yeah, well I have a whine
about it. Oh well, let's just move right past the
catch up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's I'd like to talk about it. Okay, we would
love to talk about I would like to talk about husbands.
Oh love to stop it and nagging them nagging or
us snagging us snagging?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, right, has anyone here on this couch been accused
of nagging?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I have not those words saying my husband knows better
than to use that word.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, can you call my husband seventeen years in.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So, I'm sure he used to what we just need
to frame it differently, Alan, Yeah, is he saying nagging? Okay? Well,
I just want to like just just talk about the
whole word nagging, okay, kind of like yes, this guy
definitely he's a little vocabularis.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Dot com Alan Russell.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So while I was watching I don't remember what I
was watching, was in the background and it was talking
about Jason Kelcey basically asked his wife to to nag,
like yeah, like he's He's saying like I want my
nag And I'm like, oh, what a unicorn? So it
(07:39):
sounds like a negative word. Is that passive?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, that's that's what caught my attention though, is nag?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was like, why why are these because I went
the word, Oh, he's probably talking about his wife nagging.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
He's like, no, I want her to like nag. And
so I was like, this is a unicorn? Like this
is did you say that out loud?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I sent the article to Alan. Yeah, my favorite on
this episode of with like a little like interesting ready
interesting read.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So but then it's just like and then I went
to my little note section of was like podcast nagging
because I think there's those types of guys that want
to be reminded, right, but being reminded is what is
the definition of nagging? Actually, let's just hold on one
second and we're just going to Google chat GBT this.
That's right, What is the definition because I really want
(08:34):
to get this of yeah, it's clagging.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's going to be different than yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Excessive nagging is defined us persistently annoying or harassing someone
who repeated sorry, or harassing someone with repeated requests, reminders,
or criticism. I'm talking about like reminders requests, especially about
something they haven't done or are not doing the way
(09:00):
the other person wants. It often implies a tone of
behavior that is perceived as irritating, repetitive, or overly critical.
I'm trying to think like a lawyer and really be
our defense attorney. Examples of nagging repeatedly reminding someone to
take out the trash, constantly pointing out things they're doing wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's I think that's just rude. But that piece of it,
uh yeah, to just being annoying when you're reminding over
and over remind so basically yeah, reminding over and over.
But how else are you supposed to if it doesn't
get done. I've never understood that rhetorical think.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I think we all know how why now listeners feel
about that one. So my thing is is do you
nag your husband? But oh sure, but I'm not even
trying to nag.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Right, I'm just trying to remind. I'm just trying to
move get it done.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The operation reminder is a if it's an annoying I
guess no reminder is a nag.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, I definitely do uh huh. But I
mean my husband is not the most uh not like
he's the most forget. Ever, yeah, there's no way things
would get done if I didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, I would also just like to again not have
that looked at like like high strung, like a bad
thing where it's like, wow, can if we don't remind,
will it it won't get done on the time. This
is a thing we don't remind, it won't get done
in the time that it's supposed to get done, right,
or it needs to get done like some things might be.
It has to be done by this point or by
(10:25):
the time that we would want it to be done.
So that's when people are like, well, we just do
it ourselves. But that's when we become overloaded and resentful.
So then it's like, but then it's turned on us
when we have to remind, even though that's frustrating too.
I'm going to put nagging in the same category as
this phrase which I can't stand personally, Thank you for
(10:47):
changing the word, because we don't like that word.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I can't stand. I would use the h if I could.
My old lady. Huh have you heard people referred to
wives as my old lady?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh like this, I mean I have yeah, like back
in like the biker day.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like you know what I'm saying, like the old lady,
like that's what they call. Yeah. I just feel like
it goes in that with me, like the it's like
very like old worldly marriage feeling like I don't think
any of us are naggy wives, and I think the
world word nagging is very like old timey, like it's
(11:28):
outdated and it's not relevant, which then might be why
someone from Scotland might because they're more like.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
In the time machine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, okay, maybe maybe I think there is some there
is some of that there, but I still just think
it just needs a little revamp on the vocabulary. I
think he can get his point across without saying it.
I think Alan's thing is that he's so direct, maybe
culturally and we're kind of a more rounded edge. I
would just like to know what you guys do, because
(11:59):
I've tried different tactics. Right, So I've tried the just
do it myself. Well, I don't want to just do
that because then I get overworked. So then i've you know, asked,
and it's like, hey, you know, this has to be
put in by Friday. If you could really help me
take this off my plate, that'd be amazing. That's usually
how I try to frame it. I try to frame
it sweet, try to frame it nice. Hey, just checking
(12:20):
in to see if they're going back, if this has
gotten taken care of, let me know if not, you know,
And then when it's a couple stone reminders, it's like
I should have just done it myself. Yeah, you know,
but it's like I've tried the whenever you get around
to it, no rush, because if it's not a rush,
that's why I say. I'm like, there was something broken
in the bathroom, and I said, zero rush at all.
(12:42):
I don't know how to do all the tool things
with the putting fixing this thing. So whenever you have
a second zero rush, no like and I really meant that, like,
it could be a month from that, I don't care,
So what other things are more on a times? So
I'm just curious how you guys, maybe phrase it to
your husband's because Alan does not like to be told
what to do like that is a very He does
(13:06):
not like that. So I do have to frame it
in a way where it is like hey baby.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah yeah, No, Nick is the same a second Nick
is the same way. And I will say We've actually
gotten really far with this because I think at some
point when we were going through stuff, we talked about this,
like in therapy or something, and so there have been
several times since then where I've asked I have to
He doesn't use the word nag, but he will say
(13:31):
it's all about how you ask, and it truly is
for him. If I do it nicely, fine. If I
do it mean and he feels like I'm coming down
on him, he shuts down. But since then, if I've
asked nicely a couple of times and he knows it
and then something doesn't get done, and even if I
do get unreasonable and get really mad, he is actually
pretty nice about it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He'll be like, I'm so sorry I dropped the ball,
like he.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Now will do that because he knows that that says
something to me, like this wasn't important enough for you
to take the time to make sure that this gets done,
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But it took a lot of time for that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, And I will say Alan was really good about
it because so it was one of those things where
it was the school. So I did all the back
to school stuff for Jolie and Jase because and I'm fine,
I'm fine to handle that, you know. But when it
came to Roman, because we're putting him in two days
at at a little preschool, and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna give this to Alan. I'm gonna let him,
you know, take care of this, take this off my
plate right now. And even during the process of it,
(14:30):
the amount of questions that he came and asked me
while filling it out, like I would have had this
thing filled out in can in two seconds. But I
was also like, my response is going to be huge
in this sure good good? Yeah. So like when he
came in while filling it out two days after, you know,
asking whatever, fine, but needed to be done at the
end of the week, right. So but he came in
(14:50):
and he's like, hey, who's the new pediatrics. I was like,
you know, and then he would like leave me. But
and what's the doctors say? I'm like, you know this person,
and then he's like and then what is in true?
So it's like, so he learned a lot, Like he
definitely like that was and he's like, yeah, Kat and
Kristen as the themor Yes, yeah, oh I'm a nice
I like that. But it was just like I could
(15:13):
have been annoyed and frustrated, but it's like, all right,
you're kind of getting to know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
So Preston is like allergic to anything that feels even
seventy five like degrees away from homework. So anything if
it involves a number two pencil, if it is scantron like,
if it is a form, doctors, dentist, anything, customs, it's
(15:41):
me doubling down.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
For the most part, he won't do any of that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He will get so frustrated and then it will just
be clicked out of or he doesn't know. I mean,
what's wild is that he does so much legal stuff
on his business side that I am just floored that
he doesn't want to fill out forms because the feel
it's so easy. It's like docu signing and doing everything.
But if I tried, I can't even I actually might
try it as an experiment, right, just to give him
(16:07):
a form. Well, and I think and to what you
were saying to Catherine is at the very end of it,
because it wasn't put in by the deadline, and so
when I was like kindly like, hey, do I need
to move this to the next day and the next
and the next, and then it was like the last day,
and then realizing it didn't go through, I was just
I did get frustrated, but it was one of those
things where he then realized. He's like, I'm sorry. I
didn't realize, you know, you would ask me to help
(16:30):
you take something off your plate that and I didn't
make that a priority. Yeah, I put my list of
priorities in front of it. Yeah, and I didn't realize
that it was a priority for you. So I think
it was good, yeah, to like test it. But it's
still that those waters of the nagging thing where it's like,
I don't want to be a nag, Like I do
not want to be a nagging wife.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Nobody does. If you want to ask once and I
get done there, and I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Also want to be able to ask for help, but
then it's like, but if I do, but then then
I become a nagging wife.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's not done what I want.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So it's like, I have you have to you almost
have to like the things that you have to ask
for help, you need to not have be on a timeline.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, so that you don't become a nagging wife. And
that's kind of like a bummer too, yeah, I I yeah,
it is kind of a bummer.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But if it's something that is just because you want
it done in that time, sure, I've realized I have
to let it go, but if it really has to
be done. But also like I have a dresser that's
broken up in Ramsey's room that like when are we
moving it?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm not sure. I couldn't tell you. You know, Emmy's
room was supposed to be painted white. I don't know
when that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But those are things that I'm like, yes, I want
to nag about those, but like at the same time is.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That the priority doesn't have to be done right now.
But also like lately though, like I've I had all
new light fixtures.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We've had them in the house since we bought it
ten years ago, and so I said, here they all are,
and he can do that now. Preston taught himself, which
I know is like not a big deal to a
lot of people, but I don't like electricity, so I
think that's pretty hot. Yeah, And so I said, I
have a handyman on deck that would love to do
this work for us, or yeah, because I don't want
you to have to spend your only day at home
(18:07):
doing this.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yep, which would you prefer? Yeah, that's smart.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So I tried that too. There was a I downloaded
task rabbit. Yeah, does it work well? The two of
the people canceled, But also like who wants to put
together a trampoline? You know?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So it was one of those where I was like,
I can keep trying. Did you do them? Did you
just say side project at a home? And they're like
squealing out no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And it ended up being a fun little thing that
we did together. But it was also like nobody, I
don't want to do I don't want to take the
two three hours that when Roman's napping to do this either,
Like this isn't fun, Like I would love to be
studying and sitting in my little sanctuary like nice and
peaceful right now, Like, yeah, we got to make this
somehow fun together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, But all that to say I do think the
nagging part essentially comes in with our attitudes at the
same time. But it's hard to keep the attitudes in
check sometimes when you feel like you've asked a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Right. Well, this is a huge headline and it's been everywhere.
Andy Byron's wife reacts to Astronomer's CEOs allegedly caught cheating.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Obviously you guys have seen this. I mean, if you haven't,
it's unreal.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
My thing about it is, if you are cheating on someone,
if you're cheating on your wife, why go to a
public place like this, like you're at a concert and
then you're with I think they're with work people, which
I didn't like that because they're like laughing. I'm like,
how disrespectful to like the wife that they're all just
(19:51):
they know this and they're all laughing.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't know. I do think that the spouse is new. No,
do we know for sure. I was on a cruise.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I I use this lightly because I don't know. I
haven't verified this source. So I had written something about
like kind of like pray for Meghan because I just
had yeah listen.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Some of those got really funny.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Some of the memes, like one of them was like,
you know, because this Christian girl, the one that was
having the affair, was married to a CEO before this,
and I just saw somebody post damn girl, leave some
CEOs for the rest of us, right, And I was like, okay,
well that's kind of that was kind of funny, right,
But I just got so sad because I think we
all know the feeling of like discovery and how public
(20:32):
that was. And I just kept thinking, if I'm her,
just we all can take ourselves back to the moment
that you find something out like that. And so I
just wrote and was like, maybe this will just get
shared by one or two people and we could start
like shifting it that way, but just essentially like a
pray for Megan and her kids or whatever. A follower
reached out and said, Meghan is my friend and also
(20:53):
as a roommate of mine, assuming in college.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
She didn't say, and she was like, she is devastated.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So I don't know if that person necessarily, I just
don't know why they would rate that if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right, I think in my mind, I don't know why.
I felt like she already knew the wife of him,
But either way, it's humiliating, and it's devastating, especially for
your kids. It's irrelevant. It's devastating, like for this to
be floating around and that be like your dad.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, or you're clearly you've got no respect again
to go to a concert so much.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's why I think in my mind I felt like
maybe they knew because they didn't see anything. They were
like even hiding, like it looked like the people around
them like knew.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And so I'm like, how do all these people know?
And then they don't know? Again? Who knows what? It's
almost like a gracious assumption.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, and I hope that right may was maybe, but
I mean, this is just but my question about it is,
do you think people should lose their job for having affairs?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well? I think.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It Okay, No, I don't. Having said that, our pastor obviously, yeah,
lost his job, I think that's a little different.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
He stepped down technically, kind of like it was a force. Well,
I think it's the same situation for the CEO. But
here's the thing though, because this was a big thing,
it's now taken away. Maybe what and I got I
didn't look into the company. I don't really know what
it is. Or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But do you want that to be the now because
it has become so publicized, do you want that to
be your CEO? In that case, if I was above
that person, I'd be like, I don't want this person
as the face of our thing. So yes, I believe
that if it's become publicized like this and it has
now going to maybe affect the brand, Yes, I believe.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And those are consequences because investors were dropping out exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
So yes, Now, if it's on a smaller scale, someone's cheating, No,
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's definitely against HR policy. I can promise HR. Yeah,
I also think there's like we know.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
People in news that have had I don't think people
should lose their job over relationships like that. Having said that,
if it's affecting the workplace, you know, fine, again, there's
HR rules for a reason. But I also think you
can't help who you fall for. But when it's on
a JumboTron in like a corporate you're getting fired because
(23:23):
you're under me Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I think it is. I think she was forced
to but yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, I just I would I felt this way. I'm
going to take us back on a history lesson. But
you remember when like the Monica Lewinsky thing happened with
Bill Clinton, it was like, did he lose his job? No?
But do we trust his judgment? It's like that kind
of feeling to me all over again, like that did.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He get impeached?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Though? I mean I know he didn't technically, like do
they go through an impeachment? I know he didn't actually
end up leaving the.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You can get impeached but not get Yeah, but I
just remember feeling like, wow, this speaks to your character
and your judgment.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And listen again, does it an actor job? Do you
do it in private? Do you public? Doesn't make it
better or worse?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, but it's like you are really unafraid if you're
in a suite that is really really lost our compass
for what is appropriate.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I agree you guys, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I shouldn't bring it. I need you to know definitely
unpinned quick, don't even push it all the way and
just pull it out. No, it's like it's not really relevant,
but it is because like you know, when Mike was
on the podcast and we when I caught him cheating again,
you know he's like, well, recording next week, I'm like,
you're off the show, your show, no more, like you
(24:41):
want no more, like you fired, You're off.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And they're gonna let you go. That's your show anymore.
And you cheated and so when are you asking that question?
I thought of that, and then I thought of that,
and I was.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Like, well, I mean he didn't you don't fired eating
he jumbo drowned himself.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah. I did go a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I did go when you work with your husband, the
cheating on, you're going to Yeah, but they're going to
pick one or the two.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Don't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Podcast the next week when I found out that you
had an affair again, Okay, I'm just checking in.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I know he's been personally, I'm wondering if I could
podcast till Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Are you out of your mind? Can figure that out?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Oh guys, I did go into a little bit of
a JumboTron fail. I did the history of the JumboTron fails. Yeah,
and it gets good if you do that. Nothing like
this less heart destroying. But one of them was a
failed proposal where the where the JumboTron went over to
Christine and it.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Was will you marry me? Christine?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And the groom was up. He was in the hallway.
He thought he was supposed to meet the film crew
in the hallway, and so she's standing.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There by herself and it's just will you marry me? Christine?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And she didn't know what to do and at that
if that's worth of Google, Yeah, the jumbatron fails.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I feel like this video just didn't even seem real.
They were so dramatic about it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Like it was so hair that disappear any further. I
feel like I'm like it was just all bizarre. But anyway, Yeah, yeah, guys,
what a time. Sweet Meghan. Hey Megan, do you want
a podcast with us?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, we'd love to have you on, We really would,
and to love on you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I know. Aaron Pipher's threatened to crush Denise Richard's hand
on Real Housewives of Beverly Huse five years before allegations
(26:47):
of domestic abuse.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Do you remember watching that? No, I haven't seen anything
about it until now.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was on the show, so yeah, seen from uh
season ten of The Real Housewives about Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I think it was like a non scene clip or something, but.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The cast got is worried, right, Yeah, so that he
told Denise that he will crush her hand has resurfaced, admit,
you know, along these allegations, news broke on Thursday that
Richards was granted a temporary straining order against him, and
in the scene, Richard's and her then husband were leaving
(27:21):
Kyle richards family barbecue hand in hand following a tense
discussion at dinner when Denise warned him maybe don't say
any word or on camera, to which he replied, don't
tell me what to say. I'm going to crush your
effing hand to stop it, so I don't remember that.
I just it makes me really sad because we just
had her on the podcast too, and you know, the cheating,
(27:44):
the domestic abuse. She released a photo for Black Eye.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was he cheating on her too? That's what it says,
I mean, and they've been married.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No, she He recently accused Richards of cheating on him,
citing text message found the laptop she heard another man.
And then you know, she accused him of being physically
abusive by hitting and scratching him. Just sounds messy, and
it makes me sad for all parties involved.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Like with you know, with just sad her kids are
and her kids and it's also like it's also just
like what would you do?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know, those positions, like we all want to say
in the moment, we would of course like say something
or do something, but it's almost like and what I m,
I am?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What I am seeing? Is it really real? Like you
have these moments right like if you heard him say that,
like is that real? What is he doing right now? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Because yeah, he claims she cheated on him and has
hit and scratched him. So it's like it's such a.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So he's saying that she did it. Yeah, yeah, that
she did it.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's a lot of you said, you said, allegations.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's sad.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I feel like she's gone through a lot being with Charlie.
I think was a lot, and who knows what really
goes on in their bedroom. There could be abuse on
both sides. There could be abuse on one side, there
can be but abuses abuse and that's sad and it
sounds like the thing.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Even him saying that to me is just unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I mean, yes, absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think at the end of the day, someone has
a right if they have also been abused to say
that they're abused, even if they're a man.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sure, I mean I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They get me When he said I'm going to crush
your hand. Oh yeah, I thought you meant that she's
hit and scratched. Yeah, oh yeah absolutely, And just like
in what world that's that's just that is like a
crazy thing to say crush.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
So, like, I have a hard this might get me
in trouble, but here we go. I have a hard
time believing that people won't do that, if people will
say things like that. But maybe that's just my personal
history of behavior with words too, you know, but like
exactly if you could say that, then you can do
that is kind of how yes, history is, Yes, like.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I wouldn't even say that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Preston wouldn't say that right now, right and we have
gotten in heated heated, heated conflicts and he would never
write and I, in my personal experience, I feel like
those things said were so much worse behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, So I hate that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, sad, But it sounds like they've broken it off,
hopefully and hopefully the we'll stay.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Not together and can get good help and sub help.
Another news, Pete Davidson's going to be a dad. It's
all that Pete, sweet sweet Pete thirty one. They've only
been thirty one. They've not been together very long.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I didn't see him and Kim together. I didn't know,
but I think they were cute. He was like good
for her for that season.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I also just feel like it gave like a little,
like I don't know, a little boost to every dude
in America.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Like right, Oh, it definitely boosted him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, yeah, he's been with some of the most beautiful women. Yeah,
I think he's an Honestly, I think he's just a
genuinely good dude. Maybe someone just like funny funny Yeah, yeah,
so funny, Yeah, funny guys finished last typically poor thing.
This is exciting. Hey, ladies, I need some relationship advice.
I've been dating my boyfriend for the past three years,
(31:13):
and we just graduated college all and we are busy
working our post grad jobs. We're experiencing a bit of
a rough patch now that we're so much busier and
are doing long distance. We used to see each other
every day and communicate all the time while our lives
overlapped in college, but now we work different jobs in
different cities and sometimes find ourselves not talking or texting
(31:34):
for an entire day. I'm worried we're growing apart and
complacent in our relationship. I know that a relationship in
the real world is very different from a relationship in college,
but I really want to get back to being as
close as we used to be while still growing in
this next phase of life together. Any advice on how
to stay connected through long distance, busy schedules, and major
life transitions.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Well, welcome to the last ten years, dear listener.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I do think, though, there's something. I don't think you
should go a full day without texting you're talking. That's
the part where it's like, that's where it becomes too distant,
and then that becomes you get farther and farther and
farther away from the past. I think that's a dangerous
place to be personally.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I agree, well, especially long distance. Yeah, because if you're
not seeing them, we've never gone a day even you're
most mad. And that's not me saying maybe this is bad.
I'm just saying quickly, that would be the first thing
I would change to. Yeah, even if it's just to
reach out, like I was thinking of you. Yeah, I
think there's like this.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I think there should be a good morning, Yeah, a
check in and a good night at a minimum, at
a minimum like good morning, hope your day is great,
just about to start mine, I love you. Let's you know. Yeah,
establishes a little bit of a pattern. But when you
get into that routine of not it's it'll just continue
to build a wedge. And in my I'll admit that
(32:55):
sometimes for me, I'm like, well then I'm not going
to tell you know, like I've been there before in
earlier earlier parts this marriage, and just nothing good comes
of that. So if you can waiting for him to
text you, yeah, and that's embarrassing, but I'll be honest
about it. So I think if you've ever girls done that, yeah,
I'm just going to say it out loud. Yeah. But
like I do, I think if I can round my
(33:17):
edges and come to him, I've always seen the benefit.
So you know, people say relationships aren't always fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And if you can there can be days where they're
twenty feels like they're fifty. If you can just meet
him eighty for the day. If it's always eighty twenty,
well then we revisit. But I think if you can
just I just love and lead the way that you
want to be. Love and lead is a better heart
posture than if you're not texting. I won't text you either.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Well, And I wonder if they're just like if there
is kind of a slow drift or whatever, just a
little bit of texting on your own, if that's going
to bring it back or not, or if this is
just a natural you know kind of because y'all are
in after college is such a pivotal time too, and
you're going about and you're having your lives. But like
I wonder if if you're not hearing, like you said,
(34:11):
reach out, check in, if it's still feeling different, maybe
y'all need to actually like get together, check in, see
where things stand.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And I'm not in college and I know it's different,
but I spend so much time away from my husband
that any connection is connection, Like you just have to
have it. Yeah, And I'd also like this is like
totally Devil's advocate other side of things. I like that
I just want to like throw this out there for
her to explore, maybe because there is so much out
(34:41):
there and college is so different than the real world.
So I would just in those moments, if you know,
if he's if you have a like a point zero
one percent inkling that maybe this isn't your forever, forever person,
take this time to maybe explore other things of maybe
just being by yourself and wondering maybe where you maybe
(35:05):
you like where you're living now, and maybe he wants
to stay where he's at and you at and where
you're at, and you guys can maybe go separate ways
and then you find your actual person. I'm not saying
this is maybe this is your person. And this is
like just devastating to hear this because I remember when
my high school boyfriend, I was like, he's.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
My forever, but like he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, but now it's like, maybe there is somebody else
out there and for you to not to explore yea,
the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking. I mean again,
it's such a big time after college. Like if y'all
are naturally just kind of drifting, maybe rifting there could
be you know or that, Yeah, maybe just check in
and see I drifted after college and had the time
of my life. Oh okay, I just want her heart
taking care of I.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Know that I see her. I feel like she's in
the big city right now, and I kind of just
want her to go live her life. Okay, are we
talking about her? Are we talking about Auskarkay? I'm like,
I want Honestly, it's me.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's me wanting to have her redo for the time
of of just wanting to be in a relationship instead
of like being by myself and exploring a city.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And worrying so much about someone texting you versus.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Actually go be single, go fun, go to happy hour.
Like that's what I if I could redo, that's what
I Maybe I'm like giving her advice. It's like about
to my younger self. Okay, that's okay, but sometimes starting
ourselves and need to hear it exactly right.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Guys, see you next week.
Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast
Welcome back from Alaska, Hy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I love going from sixty seventy well, sixty degree weather
to one hundred. It was sixty yeah, which was funny
because I like in the photos, I feel like I
looked like I was in thirty and everyone else looked
like they were in sixty because I was so cold.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It looked windy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well that first day when you went outside was definitely windy,
but yeah, days were, but it was beautiful. So it
like never is sunny there ever, like hardly ever, Like
when we got there to Juno, they were like, this
is the fifth sunny day, like the sixth sunniest day
in like five months.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So anyways, we had a lot of sun. So it
was great. Do I call myself out? Oh the text? Yeah?
Say fine, I feel like I yeah, call yourself phone?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What would you do?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well? I missed you, KitKat y'all got busy while I
was gone.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But anyway, I was confused because Catherine was like posting Seattle,
Well we flew into see and then you were in Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, And then I was like where actually is she?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So like I looked on the map and then like
for some reason, I was like I didn't realize Alaska
was like can right there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I thought it was like above Canada. I mean I
haven't really think that too actually, Like I was like,
it is right there, like next to it. I pulp
a map, I sing her like. I was like, I
feel stupid. Don't feel stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I felt the same way because the second day in
our excursion, they're like, you have to have your passport,
we're going into Canada.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And I'm like, what, how are we going into Canada?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And we did.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We went.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We had to go through customs and go through Canada.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, so it's literally like looking you know at like
I was like, please send me like here I am
And I was like wait what, Like I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I just I just didn't realize we'd be three hours behind.
That killed me. I don't know, the difference in the
two and the three just really messed me up and
carried the two and the three.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Listen, if it speaks to the miss Education department, Jane
and I would just like to say we're really sorry
about our geographical mishaps.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, and then it's like late like in Michigan, you know,
it's like dark, so late. Anyway, so I was up
till one thirty, two thirty last night.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I can't was it fun? It was a lot of fun.
Are you happy you went? I am very happy. I
went to do it again. I love my in laws.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was great with the family, that was awesome. I'm
so thankful for them. They paid for this trip for us.
I am not a cruise person, and I don't say
that they love cruises.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's not my jam. People love cruising, love cruising. It's
like a thing. Our neighbors cruise. They're cruising right now.
They love it. I get it because it's easy. You
can just go to those shops.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But like you know, I was ready to be home
when we were done at our last stop, but we
still had like, you know, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Go on get a boat? Can you do mile an
hour boat? You know back? And then you have a
long flight back and then yeah, well and then we did.
Then we were coming home.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That was honestly, the most eventful part was coming home
because we were I mean, it was so smooth, it
was all great. Cayden was coming to pick us up,
which I was already a little nervous about because he
used to do the airport. And I'm like, all right, buddy,
we're landing gear comes down. We were going down landing gear.
And I'm like, hey, buddy, if you haven't left yet,
go ahead and leave. Probably a good time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So he gets on the road and all of a sudden,
the plane starts going back up.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
No, and I'm like, bhe, by way, that is the
worst feeling ever when the plane's about to land and
then you go back up.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, well, and you can't see anything because it all
of a sudden got real dark. Was it storming out
of literally nowhere, but out of nowhere landing? Like were
you close to the ground? I don't know how close
we were, ok, I and our landing gear was up, so,
but I don't know how close we were because you
couldn't see so and then I looked back and because
we start going back up, and I'll look back and
you can literally see like a lightning strike right behind us.
(03:43):
But anyway, it was just a pop up, really bad storm.
So they literally closed Nashville Airport. They're like you can't land.
So we go back up and they're like fly around
for a while and they're like, all right, We're going
to Birmingham, and I was like, okay, Kayden, go home.
So so we had to go to Birmingham and then
come back.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, which is just frustrating when you came home. Yeah
and you've been gone a long time. Yeah. Yeah. So
but it was all good.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Everyone was great. It was great to spend time with
my in laws. Alaska is beautiful? Is it worth going
to I would do it differently, I again, because I
would just go to different places and find you know,
when you go on a cruise, you're just kind of
at the port or an excursion. You don't have much
of a choice to do else other things. I would
(04:25):
go to different cities, do some more like get in there,
like get in the woods, like go fishing, you know,
like it was more touristy kind of seeing my.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Ninety year old beautiful was to go to Alaska. My
grandma went to Alaska. But I still have her jacket
from the cruise show. Wow she was so she loved it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, older people too. It's much easier to do the cruises,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't want to be stuck. No you and it's
all I did one and I think I'm done. Guys,
remember when I went on a cruise. Didn't we talk
about this? And I was afraid of the pirates? Yes, yeah,
right at the pirates.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well we went on one.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We went on. We went on the Blake Shelton cruise
and that was actually fun, but I wouldn't want to
do it again.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, and we weren't there very long. No, And that's
what I kept. And that was the biggest room and
a cruise I've ever been in. Not that it was
that big, but they're just so small, you know. That
was a bigger room. We had like VIP like all
the things. So I'm here like but again, also with
a cold cruise, it's not like you go outside and
really sit by the pool, true, so you're really kind
(05:28):
of I just basically spent all my time at the
casino and I was up and that was fun.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So fun. Anyway, big again. Do y'all probably already talked
about your trip, didn't you, Montana? Yeah we did. Okay, Well,
I'll get all your info then off, fine, since you'll
talked about it about me? Was my dog? I wanted
to know all the details. I know I'm dying, but
it's fine. Yeah, girls, what's up? Four mones.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh, Laura, help me going for blood work on Friday
for the really us, I can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Like I'm mostly tired, very tired. Are you still taking testosterone?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, just a big shift.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't know what's happening sometimes very mogesterone and estrogen
dips and yeah, I don't know. They're like a strip.
We can peon just to know and just handle it
on site. Really something. Yeah, well I have a whine
about it. Oh well, let's just move right past the
catch up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's I'd like to talk about it. Okay, we would
love to talk about I would like to talk about husbands.
Oh love to stop it and nagging them nagging or
us snagging us snagging?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Okay, right, has anyone here on this couch been accused
of nagging?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I have not those words saying my husband knows better
than to use that word.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, can you call my husband seventeen years in.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So, I'm sure he used to what we just need
to frame it differently, Alan, Yeah, is he saying nagging? Okay? Well,
I just want to like just just talk about the
whole word nagging, okay, kind of like yes, this guy
definitely he's a little vocabularis.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Dot com Alan Russell.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So while I was watching I don't remember what I
was watching, was in the background and it was talking
about Jason Kelcey basically asked his wife to to nag,
like yeah, like he's He's saying like I want my
nag And I'm like, oh, what a unicorn? So it
(07:39):
sounds like a negative word. Is that passive?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, that's that's what caught my attention though, is nag?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was like, why why are these because I went
the word, Oh, he's probably talking about his wife nagging.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
He's like, no, I want her to like nag. And
so I was like, this is a unicorn? Like this
is did you say that out loud?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I sent the article to Alan. Yeah, my favorite on
this episode of with like a little like interesting ready
interesting read.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So but then it's just like and then I went
to my little note section of was like podcast nagging
because I think there's those types of guys that want
to be reminded, right, but being reminded is what is
the definition of nagging? Actually, let's just hold on one
second and we're just going to Google chat GBT this.
That's right, What is the definition because I really want
(08:34):
to get this of yeah, it's clagging.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's going to be different than yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Excessive nagging is defined us persistently annoying or harassing someone
who repeated sorry, or harassing someone with repeated requests, reminders,
or criticism. I'm talking about like reminders requests, especially about
something they haven't done or are not doing the way
(09:00):
the other person wants. It often implies a tone of
behavior that is perceived as irritating, repetitive, or overly critical.
I'm trying to think like a lawyer and really be
our defense attorney. Examples of nagging repeatedly reminding someone to
take out the trash, constantly pointing out things they're doing wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's I think that's just rude. But that piece of it,
uh yeah, to just being annoying when you're reminding over
and over remind so basically yeah, reminding over and over.
But how else are you supposed to if it doesn't
get done. I've never understood that rhetorical think.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I think we all know how why now listeners feel
about that one. So my thing is is do you
nag your husband? But oh sure, but I'm not even
trying to nag.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Right, I'm just trying to remind. I'm just trying to
move get it done.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The operation reminder is a if it's an annoying I
guess no reminder is a nag.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, I definitely do uh huh. But I
mean my husband is not the most uh not like
he's the most forget. Ever, yeah, there's no way things
would get done if I didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, I would also just like to again not have
that looked at like like high strung, like a bad
thing where it's like, wow, can if we don't remind,
will it it won't get done on the time. This
is a thing we don't remind, it won't get done
in the time that it's supposed to get done, right,
or it needs to get done like some things might be.
It has to be done by this point or by
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the time that we would want it to be done.
So that's when people are like, well, we just do
it ourselves. But that's when we become overloaded and resentful.
So then it's like, but then it's turned on us
when we have to remind, even though that's frustrating too.
I'm going to put nagging in the same category as
this phrase which I can't stand personally, Thank you for
(10:47):
changing the word, because we don't like that word.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I can't stand. I would use the h if I could.
My old lady. Huh have you heard people referred to
wives as my old lady?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh like this, I mean I have yeah, like back
in like the biker day.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like you know what I'm saying, like the old lady,
like that's what they call. Yeah. I just feel like
it goes in that with me, like the it's like
very like old worldly marriage feeling like I don't think
any of us are naggy wives, and I think the
world word nagging is very like old timey, like it's
(11:28):
outdated and it's not relevant, which then might be why
someone from Scotland might because they're more like.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
In the time machine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, okay, maybe maybe I think there is some there
is some of that there, but I still just think
it just needs a little revamp on the vocabulary. I
think he can get his point across without saying it.
I think Alan's thing is that he's so direct, maybe
culturally and we're kind of a more rounded edge. I
would just like to know what you guys do, because
(11:59):
I've tried different tactics. Right, So I've tried the just
do it myself. Well, I don't want to just do
that because then I get overworked. So then i've you know, asked,
and it's like, hey, you know, this has to be
put in by Friday. If you could really help me
take this off my plate, that'd be amazing. That's usually
how I try to frame it. I try to frame
it sweet, try to frame it nice. Hey, just checking
(12:20):
in to see if they're going back, if this has
gotten taken care of, let me know if not, you know,
And then when it's a couple stone reminders, it's like
I should have just done it myself. Yeah, you know,
but it's like I've tried the whenever you get around
to it, no rush, because if it's not a rush,
that's why I say. I'm like, there was something broken
in the bathroom, and I said, zero rush at all.
(12:42):
I don't know how to do all the tool things
with the putting fixing this thing. So whenever you have
a second zero rush, no like and I really meant that, like,
it could be a month from that, I don't care,
So what other things are more on a times? So
I'm just curious how you guys, maybe phrase it to
your husband's because Alan does not like to be told
what to do like that is a very He does
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not like that. So I do have to frame it
in a way where it is like hey baby.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah yeah, No, Nick is the same a second Nick
is the same way. And I will say We've actually
gotten really far with this because I think at some
point when we were going through stuff, we talked about this,
like in therapy or something, and so there have been
several times since then where I've asked I have to
He doesn't use the word nag, but he will say
(13:31):
it's all about how you ask, and it truly is
for him. If I do it nicely, fine. If I
do it mean and he feels like I'm coming down
on him, he shuts down. But since then, if I've
asked nicely a couple of times and he knows it
and then something doesn't get done, and even if I
do get unreasonable and get really mad, he is actually
pretty nice about it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He'll be like, I'm so sorry I dropped the ball,
like he.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Now will do that because he knows that that says
something to me, like this wasn't important enough for you
to take the time to make sure that this gets done,
you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But it took a lot of time for that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, And I will say Alan was really good about
it because so it was one of those things where
it was the school. So I did all the back
to school stuff for Jolie and Jase because and I'm fine,
I'm fine to handle that, you know. But when it
came to Roman, because we're putting him in two days
at at a little preschool, and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna give this to Alan. I'm gonna let him,
you know, take care of this, take this off my
plate right now. And even during the process of it,
(14:30):
the amount of questions that he came and asked me
while filling it out, like I would have had this
thing filled out in can in two seconds. But I
was also like, my response is going to be huge
in this sure good good? Yeah. So like when he
came in while filling it out two days after, you know,
asking whatever, fine, but needed to be done at the
end of the week, right. So but he came in
(14:50):
and he's like, hey, who's the new pediatrics. I was like,
you know, and then he would like leave me. But
and what's the doctors say? I'm like, you know this person,
and then he's like and then what is in true?
So it's like, so he learned a lot, Like he
definitely like that was and he's like, yeah, Kat and
Kristen as the themor Yes, yeah, oh I'm a nice
I like that. But it was just like I could
(15:13):
have been annoyed and frustrated, but it's like, all right,
you're kind of getting to know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
So Preston is like allergic to anything that feels even
seventy five like degrees away from homework. So anything if
it involves a number two pencil, if it is scantron like,
if it is a form, doctors, dentist, anything, customs, it's
(15:41):
me doubling down.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
For the most part, he won't do any of that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He will get so frustrated and then it will just
be clicked out of or he doesn't know. I mean,
what's wild is that he does so much legal stuff
on his business side that I am just floored that
he doesn't want to fill out forms because the feel
it's so easy. It's like docu signing and doing everything.
But if I tried, I can't even I actually might
try it as an experiment, right, just to give him
(16:07):
a form. Well, and I think and to what you
were saying to Catherine is at the very end of it,
because it wasn't put in by the deadline, and so
when I was like kindly like, hey, do I need
to move this to the next day and the next
and the next, and then it was like the last day,
and then realizing it didn't go through, I was just
I did get frustrated, but it was one of those
things where he then realized. He's like, I'm sorry. I
didn't realize, you know, you would ask me to help
(16:30):
you take something off your plate that and I didn't
make that a priority. Yeah, I put my list of
priorities in front of it. Yeah, and I didn't realize
that it was a priority for you. So I think
it was good, yeah, to like test it. But it's
still that those waters of the nagging thing where it's like,
I don't want to be a nag, Like I do
not want to be a nagging wife.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Nobody does. If you want to ask once and I
get done there, and I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Also want to be able to ask for help, but
then it's like, but if I do, but then then
I become a nagging wife.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's not done what I want.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So it's like, I have you have to you almost
have to like the things that you have to ask
for help, you need to not have be on a timeline.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, so that you don't become a nagging wife. And
that's kind of like a bummer too, yeah, I I yeah,
it is kind of a bummer.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But if it's something that is just because you want
it done in that time, sure, I've realized I have
to let it go, but if it really has to
be done. But also like I have a dresser that's
broken up in Ramsey's room that like when are we
moving it?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm not sure. I couldn't tell you. You know, Emmy's
room was supposed to be painted white. I don't know
when that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But those are things that I'm like, yes, I want
to nag about those, but like at the same time is.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That the priority doesn't have to be done right now.
But also like lately though, like I've I had all
new light fixtures.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We've had them in the house since we bought it
ten years ago, and so I said, here they all are,
and he can do that now. Preston taught himself, which
I know is like not a big deal to a
lot of people, but I don't like electricity, so I
think that's pretty hot. Yeah, And so I said, I
have a handyman on deck that would love to do
this work for us, or yeah, because I don't want
you to have to spend your only day at home
(18:07):
doing this.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yep, which would you prefer? Yeah, that's smart.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So I tried that too. There was a I downloaded
task rabbit. Yeah, does it work well? The two of
the people canceled, But also like who wants to put
together a trampoline? You know?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So it was one of those where I was like,
I can keep trying. Did you do them? Did you
just say side project at a home? And they're like
squealing out no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And it ended up being a fun little thing that
we did together. But it was also like nobody, I
don't want to do I don't want to take the
two three hours that when Roman's napping to do this either,
Like this isn't fun, Like I would love to be
studying and sitting in my little sanctuary like nice and
peaceful right now, Like, yeah, we got to make this
somehow fun together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, But all that to say I do think the
nagging part essentially comes in with our attitudes at the
same time. But it's hard to keep the attitudes in
check sometimes when you feel like you've asked a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Right. Well, this is a huge headline and it's been everywhere.
Andy Byron's wife reacts to Astronomer's CEOs allegedly caught cheating.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Obviously you guys have seen this. I mean, if you haven't,
it's unreal.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
My thing about it is, if you are cheating on someone,
if you're cheating on your wife, why go to a
public place like this, like you're at a concert and
then you're with I think they're with work people, which
I didn't like that because they're like laughing. I'm like,
how disrespectful to like the wife that they're all just
(19:51):
they know this and they're all laughing.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't know. I do think that the spouse is new. No,
do we know for sure. I was on a cruise.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I I use this lightly because I don't know. I
haven't verified this source. So I had written something about
like kind of like pray for Meghan because I just
had yeah listen.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Some of those got really funny.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Some of the memes, like one of them was like,
you know, because this Christian girl, the one that was
having the affair, was married to a CEO before this,
and I just saw somebody post damn girl, leave some
CEOs for the rest of us, right, And I was like, okay,
well that's kind of that was kind of funny, right,
But I just got so sad because I think we
all know the feeling of like discovery and how public
(20:32):
that was. And I just kept thinking, if I'm her,
just we all can take ourselves back to the moment
that you find something out like that. And so I
just wrote and was like, maybe this will just get
shared by one or two people and we could start
like shifting it that way, but just essentially like a
pray for Megan and her kids or whatever. A follower
reached out and said, Meghan is my friend and also
(20:53):
as a roommate of mine, assuming in college.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
She didn't say, and she was like, she is devastated.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So I don't know if that person necessarily, I just
don't know why they would rate that if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right, I think in my mind, I don't know why.
I felt like she already knew the wife of him,
But either way, it's humiliating, and it's devastating, especially for
your kids. It's irrelevant. It's devastating, like for this to
be floating around and that be like your dad.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, or you're clearly you've got no respect again
to go to a concert so much.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's why I think in my mind I felt like
maybe they knew because they didn't see anything. They were
like even hiding, like it looked like the people around
them like knew.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And so I'm like, how do all these people know?
And then they don't know? Again? Who knows what? It's
almost like a gracious assumption.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, and I hope that right may was maybe, but
I mean, this is just but my question about it is,
do you think people should lose their job for having affairs?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well? I think.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It Okay, No, I don't. Having said that, our pastor obviously, yeah,
lost his job, I think that's a little different.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
He stepped down technically, kind of like it was a force. Well,
I think it's the same situation for the CEO. But
here's the thing though, because this was a big thing,
it's now taken away. Maybe what and I got I
didn't look into the company. I don't really know what
it is. Or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But do you want that to be the now because
it has become so publicized, do you want that to
be your CEO? In that case, if I was above
that person, I'd be like, I don't want this person
as the face of our thing. So yes, I believe
that if it's become publicized like this and it has
now going to maybe affect the brand, Yes, I believe.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And those are consequences because investors were dropping out exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
So yes, Now, if it's on a smaller scale, someone's cheating, No,
I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's definitely against HR policy. I can promise HR. Yeah,
I also think there's like we know.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
People in news that have had I don't think people
should lose their job over relationships like that. Having said that,
if it's affecting the workplace, you know, fine, again, there's
HR rules for a reason. But I also think you
can't help who you fall for. But when it's on
a JumboTron in like a corporate you're getting fired because
(23:23):
you're under me Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I think it is. I think she was forced
to but yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, I just I would I felt this way. I'm
going to take us back on a history lesson. But
you remember when like the Monica Lewinsky thing happened with
Bill Clinton, it was like, did he lose his job? No?
But do we trust his judgment? It's like that kind
of feeling to me all over again, like that did.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He get impeached?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Though? I mean I know he didn't technically, like do
they go through an impeachment? I know he didn't actually
end up leaving the.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You can get impeached but not get Yeah, but I
just remember feeling like, wow, this speaks to your character
and your judgment.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And listen again, does it an actor job? Do you
do it in private? Do you public? Doesn't make it
better or worse?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, but it's like you are really unafraid if you're
in a suite that is really really lost our compass
for what is appropriate.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I agree you guys, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I shouldn't bring it. I need you to know definitely
unpinned quick, don't even push it all the way and
just pull it out. No, it's like it's not really relevant,
but it is because like you know, when Mike was
on the podcast and we when I caught him cheating again,
you know he's like, well, recording next week, I'm like,
you're off the show, your show, no more, like you
(24:41):
want no more, like you fired, You're off.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And they're gonna let you go. That's your show anymore.
And you cheated and so when are you asking that question?
I thought of that, and then I thought of that,
and I was.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Like, well, I mean he didn't you don't fired eating
he jumbo drowned himself.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah. I did go a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I did go when you work with your husband, the
cheating on, you're going to Yeah, but they're going to
pick one or the two.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Don't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Podcast the next week when I found out that you
had an affair again, Okay, I'm just checking in.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I know he's been personally, I'm wondering if I could
podcast till Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Are you out of your mind? Can figure that out?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Oh guys, I did go into a little bit of
a JumboTron fail. I did the history of the JumboTron fails. Yeah,
and it gets good if you do that. Nothing like
this less heart destroying. But one of them was a
failed proposal where the where the JumboTron went over to
Christine and it.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Was will you marry me? Christine?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And the groom was up. He was in the hallway.
He thought he was supposed to meet the film crew
in the hallway, and so she's standing.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There by herself and it's just will you marry me? Christine?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And she didn't know what to do and at that
if that's worth of Google, Yeah, the jumbatron fails.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I feel like this video just didn't even seem real.
They were so dramatic about it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Like it was so hair that disappear any further. I
feel like I'm like it was just all bizarre. But anyway, Yeah, yeah, guys,
what a time. Sweet Meghan. Hey Megan, do you want
a podcast with us?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, we'd love to have you on, We really would,
and to love on you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I know. Aaron Pipher's threatened to crush Denise Richard's hand
on Real Housewives of Beverly Huse five years before allegations
(26:47):
of domestic abuse.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Do you remember watching that? No, I haven't seen anything
about it until now.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was on the show, so yeah, seen from uh
season ten of The Real Housewives about Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I think it was like a non scene clip or something, but.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The cast got is worried, right, Yeah, so that he
told Denise that he will crush her hand has resurfaced, admit,
you know, along these allegations, news broke on Thursday that
Richards was granted a temporary straining order against him, and
in the scene, Richard's and her then husband were leaving
(27:21):
Kyle richards family barbecue hand in hand following a tense
discussion at dinner when Denise warned him maybe don't say
any word or on camera, to which he replied, don't
tell me what to say. I'm going to crush your
effing hand to stop it, so I don't remember that.
I just it makes me really sad because we just
had her on the podcast too, and you know, the cheating,
(27:44):
the domestic abuse. She released a photo for Black Eye.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was he cheating on her too? That's what it says,
I mean, and they've been married.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No, she He recently accused Richards of cheating on him,
citing text message found the laptop she heard another man.
And then you know, she accused him of being physically
abusive by hitting and scratching him. Just sounds messy, and
it makes me sad for all parties involved.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Like with you know, with just sad her kids are
and her kids and it's also like it's also just
like what would you do?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know, those positions, like we all want to say
in the moment, we would of course like say something
or do something, but it's almost like and what I m,
I am?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What I am seeing? Is it really real? Like you
have these moments right like if you heard him say that,
like is that real? What is he doing right now? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Because yeah, he claims she cheated on him and has
hit and scratched him. So it's like it's such a.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So he's saying that she did it. Yeah, yeah, that
she did it.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's a lot of you said, you said, allegations.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's sad.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I feel like she's gone through a lot being with Charlie.
I think was a lot, and who knows what really
goes on in their bedroom. There could be abuse on
both sides. There could be abuse on one side, there
can be but abuses abuse and that's sad and it
sounds like the thing.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Even him saying that to me is just unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I mean, yes, absolutely do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I think at the end of the day, someone has
a right if they have also been abused to say
that they're abused, even if they're a man.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sure, I mean I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They get me When he said I'm going to crush
your hand. Oh yeah, I thought you meant that she's
hit and scratched. Yeah, oh yeah absolutely, And just like
in what world that's that's just that is like a
crazy thing to say crush.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
So, like, I have a hard this might get me
in trouble, but here we go. I have a hard
time believing that people won't do that, if people will
say things like that. But maybe that's just my personal
history of behavior with words too, you know, but like
exactly if you could say that, then you can do
that is kind of how yes, history is, Yes, like.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I wouldn't even say that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Preston wouldn't say that right now, right and we have
gotten in heated heated, heated conflicts and he would never
write and I, in my personal experience, I feel like
those things said were so much worse behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, So I hate that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, sad, But it sounds like they've broken it off,
hopefully and hopefully the we'll stay.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Not together and can get good help and sub help.
Another news, Pete Davidson's going to be a dad. It's
all that Pete, sweet sweet Pete thirty one. They've only
been thirty one. They've not been together very long.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I didn't see him and Kim together. I didn't know,
but I think they were cute. He was like good
for her for that season.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I also just feel like it gave like a little,
like I don't know, a little boost to every dude
in America.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Like right, Oh, it definitely boosted him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, yeah, he's been with some of the most beautiful women. Yeah,
I think he's an Honestly, I think he's just a
genuinely good dude. Maybe someone just like funny funny Yeah, yeah,
so funny, Yeah, funny guys finished last typically poor thing.
This is exciting. Hey, ladies, I need some relationship advice.
I've been dating my boyfriend for the past three years,
(31:13):
and we just graduated college all and we are busy
working our post grad jobs. We're experiencing a bit of
a rough patch now that we're so much busier and
are doing long distance. We used to see each other
every day and communicate all the time while our lives
overlapped in college, but now we work different jobs in
different cities and sometimes find ourselves not talking or texting
(31:34):
for an entire day. I'm worried we're growing apart and
complacent in our relationship. I know that a relationship in
the real world is very different from a relationship in college,
but I really want to get back to being as
close as we used to be while still growing in
this next phase of life together. Any advice on how
to stay connected through long distance, busy schedules, and major
life transitions.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Well, welcome to the last ten years, dear listener.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I do think, though, there's something. I don't think you
should go a full day without texting you're talking. That's
the part where it's like, that's where it becomes too distant,
and then that becomes you get farther and farther and
farther away from the past. I think that's a dangerous
place to be personally.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I agree, well, especially long distance. Yeah, because if you're
not seeing them, we've never gone a day even you're
most mad. And that's not me saying maybe this is bad.
I'm just saying quickly, that would be the first thing
I would change to. Yeah, even if it's just to
reach out, like I was thinking of you. Yeah, I
think there's like this.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I think there should be a good morning, Yeah, a
check in and a good night at a minimum, at
a minimum like good morning, hope your day is great,
just about to start mine, I love you. Let's you know. Yeah,
establishes a little bit of a pattern. But when you
get into that routine of not it's it'll just continue
to build a wedge. And in my I'll admit that
(32:55):
sometimes for me, I'm like, well then I'm not going
to tell you know, like I've been there before in
earlier earlier parts this marriage, and just nothing good comes
of that. So if you can waiting for him to
text you, yeah, and that's embarrassing, but I'll be honest
about it. So I think if you've ever girls done that, yeah,
I'm just going to say it out loud. Yeah. But
like I do, I think if I can round my
(33:17):
edges and come to him, I've always seen the benefit.
So you know, people say relationships aren't always fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And if you can there can be days where they're
twenty feels like they're fifty. If you can just meet
him eighty for the day. If it's always eighty twenty,
well then we revisit. But I think if you can
just I just love and lead the way that you
want to be. Love and lead is a better heart
posture than if you're not texting. I won't text you either.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Well, And I wonder if they're just like if there
is kind of a slow drift or whatever, just a
little bit of texting on your own, if that's going
to bring it back or not, or if this is
just a natural you know kind of because y'all are
in after college is such a pivotal time too, and
you're going about and you're having your lives. But like
I wonder if if you're not hearing, like you said,
(34:11):
reach out, check in, if it's still feeling different, maybe
y'all need to actually like get together, check in, see
where things stand.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And I'm not in college and I know it's different,
but I spend so much time away from my husband
that any connection is connection, Like you just have to
have it. Yeah, And I'd also like this is like
totally Devil's advocate other side of things. I like that
I just want to like throw this out there for
her to explore, maybe because there is so much out
(34:41):
there and college is so different than the real world.
So I would just in those moments, if you know,
if he's if you have a like a point zero
one percent inkling that maybe this isn't your forever, forever person,
take this time to maybe explore other things of maybe
just being by yourself and wondering maybe where you maybe
(35:05):
you like where you're living now, and maybe he wants
to stay where he's at and you at and where
you're at, and you guys can maybe go separate ways
and then you find your actual person. I'm not saying
this is maybe this is your person. And this is
like just devastating to hear this because I remember when
my high school boyfriend, I was like, he's.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
My forever, but like he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, but now it's like, maybe there is somebody else
out there and for you to not to explore yea,
the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking. I mean again,
it's such a big time after college. Like if y'all
are naturally just kind of drifting, maybe rifting there could
be you know or that, Yeah, maybe just check in
and see I drifted after college and had the time
of my life. Oh okay, I just want her heart
taking care of I.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Know that I see her. I feel like she's in
the big city right now, and I kind of just
want her to go live her life. Okay, are we
talking about her? Are we talking about Auskarkay? I'm like,
I want Honestly, it's me.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's me wanting to have her redo for the time
of of just wanting to be in a relationship instead
of like being by myself and exploring a city.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And worrying so much about someone texting you versus.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Actually go be single, go fun, go to happy hour.
Like that's what I if I could redo, that's what
I Maybe I'm like giving her advice. It's like about
to my younger self. Okay, that's okay, but sometimes starting
ourselves and need to hear it exactly right.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Guys, see you next week.
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