June 19, 2025 • 27 mins
You got to know Mama June and Alana on “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo”, but now the family faces a different set of challenges.
Mama June opens up about her struggle with addiction and how she handled the stress of being in the public eye.
And we hear from daughters Lauryn and Jessica about how their lives have changed since the days of “Honey Boo Boo”.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This week's guest episode, We've got Mama June and Lauren
coming on the show. They have a new season of
Mama June Family Crisis on we TV, so let's get
them on and hear all about it. Hey, guys, I'm Jana.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
How are you what you want to say?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I am a big fan?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's so sweet. Did you watch One Tree Hill? Were
you a One Tree Hiller?
Speaker 7 (00:37):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yeah, we're actually just talking about that again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh really, more about your music and stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Oh that's sweet. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, first and foremost, I just want to ask y'all,
do you guys do therapy?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No, but I have you have? Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm just curious because there's so much that you know
from from my past that I've you know, worked through
because a lot of it comes from, right the family
dynamic of things, whether it was daddy issues or this,
and then you know the childhood wounds of all of it.
So I'm curious, you know, Lauren, for you without that, like,
where do you wrestle with the things that have happened
(01:18):
in the family dynamic with your mom with your dad.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Right after my mom's edation and stuff, our network actually
kind of like stepped in and was like, you have
literally been through so much, like we literally don't know
how you're handling at all. So they did offer like
therapy to us. So I went through pretty much like
I was doing it twice a week. So I grew
like a really good bond with my therapist, Like she
(01:43):
still reaches out to me like every once in a
while and I just kind of update her all my
life and you know. And so from now, like I
learned better tools on like how to communicate and to
not like fall back through the cracks of like how
I was raised.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Yeah, and then I also like thing throughout the show,
like we do have somebody that is always on board,
Like when Anne passed away, they have somebody and every
time every season we have somebody if we choose to
talk to them, we have that on board.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Sure, And is it for something for you, Mama Jum
where you're just like I don't want to because I
don't either believe in it or because you don't think,
like what is it?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's not that we.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Don't believe in it, she don't think she needs it,
because honestly, I have to say, they like to call
it it come to Jesus thing a few years ago
and I started, like you said, you realize, I realize
a lot of my problems, like with the relationship with
my children, relationships with me, and came from like traumas
with my mom and so like I've kind of like
(02:45):
worked through that on my own kind of thing. Is
I'm just one of those times of people that don't
like to talk about my emotions.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Sure, I mean that makes sense, I guess.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then for you.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Through all of this, because you've obviously had to watch
so much of your life and your kids on TV,
is there something that and you know, like your daughter
was just talking about your drug addictions, is there something
that you would want your kids to know that maybe
you haven't told them.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Not really, because like we pretty much have been open
about like certain things, and like I've even told them,
like they call my pun to Jesus meetings, Like I've
even told them about that. Like I've even went and
said so far, like hey, I don't want you all
to wake up at like forty years old or forty one.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And say, hey, like I regret.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Like being this relationship that long, or I regret not
doing this or I were you know, I'm saying like,
so I have like been more open and like I
don't want them to like turn on like me at
like forty seven years old and being like I wish
I would have did something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Different, right, And then to the viewers that watch it,
you know, because listen, I mean when you it's hard
because you're putting your life out there and there's so
much that has gone on. They are all the headlines.
What would you want the viewers to know who you are?
And with the people that you've I mean dated, I
(04:11):
mean the couple of them have been sex offenders, Like
how do you wrestle that with being a mom and
having kids?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I just don't like this, Like, okay, so the two
people that like Jessica and Pumpkins father that happened way
after we were together, and the deal with another one
of my axes I have that was like that was
that and I didn't know about that problem.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But anybody else like I have honestly dated, like that
is my past and.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
They're in the past for a reason. And so I
don't like look at that person. I mean, I know
that's part of my past and that's who I am today. Sure,
but like I really don't like focus on that be like, Okay,
this is what I've done.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like I just don't like be a dead horse.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
That that make sense, because when you get out of
beta dead warce nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, no, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And that's the same kind of thing with regrets, right,
Like even if you were like, Okay, what's one thing
you'd want to do differently? Well, you're here now, so
you know, it's kind of that kind of same. But
is there something where you're like, I wish I wouldn't
have done X.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I don't know, like I feel like everything that I've
done has happened for a reason. To be honest with you,
like maybe like I was at Chelly kids, like I
feel like I wish that maybe I hadn't have done
like drugs in front of them, or I wish I
wouldn't have had went down that alley as much as
I went down that alley.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But like other than that, like I have like no regrets.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Sure, Lauren, you were saying that I was reading an
article that in People you said that you you know,
I think the zech quos I felt we just handled
this on our own without it being blasted for millions
to see. So now that you guys have the show
where your where's your mindset around that, because it again
is going to be for everyone to have their opinions
while you guys go through what you're going through.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I mean, if we're being honest, I just kind of
feel like everybody has their own opinion, and I mean
people can believe what they want to believe. Like I
know what happened in my marriage and the reason that
it didn't last. I know how well I take care
of my kids. I know what kind of cycles that
I'm breaking, and like for me, I don't really have
to prove that to anybody.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I don't have to prove that I'm a good mom.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
I don't have to prove that I did everything that
I could in my marriage before I decided, Hey, divorce
is my final say so, like I was just telling
people last week in New York, for me, you know
a lot of the times women are done way way
longer before men are, And Josh was still kind of
processing that, which one thousand percent he has the right to,
(06:49):
he has everything to do that. But for me, like
I have moved on and I am in a much
happier place, and I feel like, for the one time
in my life, for me, it's like I'm not having
to fix somebody else. I'm not having to fill up
somebody else's cup and then feel empty at the end
of the day, like like I genuinely feel.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Happier, you know, Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean I went through a very public divorce, tu
And it's like people, people will always have their own perception,
but you don't know what's inside the four walls besides
you exactly, you know. And I think it's it's you
can beat a dead horse saying like no, I'm a
good mom and I'm doing this and this is what happened.
This is the real truth. This is what I'm trying
to protect the kids from.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
But even if you tell them real truth, they're still
going to believe what they want to believe.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So it's like, I'm not going to keep arguing with you.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I know the truth.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I know that my kids are taken care of, and
I know that again at the end of the day,
as a woman and as an adult, there was things
that I could have done differently in.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
My marriage and vice versa. I'm both ends.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
So for me, it's just you just make the opinion
you want to make, you know.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
And all the time is like you know, they are
telling the story that they want you to know. I
mean they slung it off out there her or Josh
slung it out there just like me. If I slung
it all out there at you, y'all would be like whirlwinded.
And you know with this, I mean, y'all don't have
to know the full one truth. And I even told
(08:13):
her that when she decided to go and tell her
the poor story on, I said, look, you and Josh
sit down and y'all can tell whatever you know part
that y'all want to tell the world. You don't have
to tell every single detail.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, that makes sense, Mama Dune.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do you think that the drug use came from being
on the like having the public life that you had
and all the pressures and the comments and the was
that a source of like numbing or.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Like for me?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Like I always tell you all, I tell myself at fourteen,
I would never be on any you know, drugs or
anything like that because I have two sisters that I
had a pill addiction and boom at twenty.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I was on math and did that for four or
five years and then.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Went to cocaine.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Was I around a lot in this industry? Yes, and
you being in the industry, you know that they're at
every party. That's not a thing I don't think because
I was in this industry. But once I got in
that lifestyle, I realized that I could do more.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I could make more money, I could be more like,
I could be just, I could be more time.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
They feel like I had more time to do more things.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
So yes and no, if that makes sense. But as
far as noting the pain.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, yeah, well I mean listen, because it's like, at
the end of the day, we're all human and it's yes,
you guys chose to put your life out there in public,
and it's not easy to read things at least you know.
I don't like seeing negative comments. It sucks, you know,
So you know, I can't even imagine. What is the
biggest misconception you want to clear.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
I think the biggest misconception for me is that a
lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Oh, you've turned off to just be just like your mom.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
You're choosing me in like, no, I'm choosing myself and
I really wish people would like to see that because
for so long, like I raised my own kids, I
helped raise Lana, Like you know, now I do help
out with Kaitlyn and my mama and then and stuff
need help, like so I am always a helping hand
everywhere else. And for the first time, like I picked
(10:28):
myself and I'm not asking like everybody in the world
to be okay with my decision or who I'm with
or whatever, because like, I know how happy I am
at the end of the day. But for me, it's
just like everybody's like, you're just like your mom. And
if you would sit back and look at how many
like generational curses that I have broken, Like I'm actually
kind of'm proud to be standing here and being where
I am.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Sure absolutely, and I would ever have to say for
me is the worst thing that anybody says, Like if
I talk or I make a video a different way
or you know, they all.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Say, oh, well, she's using drugs. I'm five and a
half years clean, sober. I don't even smoke cigarettes, drink nothing,
And they were like, oh, she's back using drugs because
she's talking too fast.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Oh her I twitch. I'm like.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Really, like that is like the most stupidest thing anybody says.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Right, Well, and I'm and I'm sure that piece too
is it's hard because you're like, no, I am sober,
but you can't again you have to just rest in
what you know to be the truth rather than these other.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Like honestly, I'm not sure you know you've been You've
been in the public eye too, so like for you,
it's like you consistently keep saying that, like at some
point I'm going to get.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Sick of A and A and trying to defend myself.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, exactly, how was it taking in your sister, because
I you know, I have my girl, Savannah Crystal, you know,
she took in you know her her you know, her
brother's kids and when their parents were in prison and stuff.
But for you, was there a piece where it was
obviously that was your you know, the big sister, that
was what you did. But was there was that challenging
(12:01):
for you to kind of wrestle with why you were
having to do that.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, I definitely thought that that was probably one of
the biggest challenges like in my life, amongst a few
other things of course, but like managing just getting married,
managing like still trying to figure that out because we
were very young, still trying to figure out, like my
first kid, figure out how like action parent and the
(12:26):
right way to do things and things like that, and
then like I don't know, for me one hundred of percent,
it is like kind of hard to navigate.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, Yeah, that would, Yeah, I would, I would
think that so well, First of all, I am sorry
as well about your sister and your daughter. I can't
even imagine losing a child, losing a sibling, so you
know that is again I cannot even imagine that pain.
Has there been a moment And I know this is
(12:59):
like such a weird question, but when there is that,
I guess was there piece at the end for you
guys relationally? And then have you felt anything post like
has she come to like she has she come in
to dream of yours?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Has she done.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
All the time?
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
For an instance, Okay, Monday, last Monday, we got Caylen's
hair done.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Her thing is it's sweet Little Poison, and the song pretty.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Little Sorry, Pretty Little Poison was the song.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That we played at her funeral.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Okay, and that is her song that she shows up
with every time she was talk with So Kaitlin was
getting her hair done and we was at the end
of the pointment and she was the girl was like,
you like it? And then all of a sudden there's
different music playing and putting the song displayed and it
was just like, Okay, this is your mama just telling
you that she likes her hair. Or like when her
(13:55):
when Caitlyn's birthday was July twenty sixth, was in Colorado,
it got me in a lot of it played three
times back to back when we were going to gearon Nelson.
It messed me in a lot of a lot of
missed the exit three times to get in Nelson because
they paid three times.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I said, Caitlyn is your moment telling you, hey, birthday.
Trust me, she shows up.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, she definitely shows up.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
And one hundred percent think that like all of us
write piece because like literally everything she asked for, like
we had done, we still she asked to go.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
To Gatlinburg, Tennessee, before she passed. We all went and
spent a week out there with her.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I mean she was in a wheelchair, she could hardly
really move and.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Had the ability to even do that. So like for
her to get up, we all spent time together. We
all played cards.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Together, like really in her final moments, I feel like
we done literally all that we could do.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I love that. That's that's beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I always just love those hearing those stories because I
believe in that. I always think every time the light
you know, like you know, twitches, it's my grandpa, you know.
So I'm always yeah, and whenever I need them, I'm like, oh,
there he is.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Hey, Hey, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But so for you guys, like, what are you excited about,
because that's obviously there's been a lot of hardships and
addictions and relationships stuff like what what are you guys
like excited about for the season?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I think for this season, I am excited for people
to see a different side of me that like, even
though the bravest person in the family has kept everybody
together for seven seasons, it's okay for them to also
fall apart two because I do feel like that were
always played.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
By a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And the only reason you know, a lot of people
hear my story is because I'm on TV. But there's
a lot of people that I have known and connected
with over this time that have like, hey, a guy
I've had to raise seven of my siblings. The mom
passed away, the dad passed away. You know, it's like
and they're still doing it, but they don't get the
recognition that I get. So for me, it is wanting
(15:58):
to open up and share that with everybody and be like,
it's okay to not always have to.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Have it all together.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sure, Mama June, I wasn't the same.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Thing with her.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's yeah, you just don't have to have it all together.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And how is your relationship? Like, what is what is
amazing about your man that you wish you would have
had in the path, Like what what is what makes
this relationship.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He is like really like good, Like with the kids,
they will definitely call him before they call me.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
They definitely will.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's sweet, and you're happy that your mom's happy, obviously
you guys. You guys walked her down the aisle. So
that's a sweet little moment there. Yes, I love that
so much. Well, ladies, thank you so much for coming on.
I really appreciate it. I'll be tuning in Mama June
Family Crisis new episodes Friday at eight pm on WE TV.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Than day, are you too?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Let's take a break, and then when we come back,
we're going to get Alana and Jessica on Hi Friends. Jessica,
I actually want to start with you, if that's okay,
(17:17):
because I was just reading up on your story and
I did not know that you didn't know who your
father was until you were your real father until you
went fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Oh I think.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Actually a little before that, Mama always told us who
he was.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh like I never met him. I didn't have a
reason to him.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
And if you waited that long to try to make
a connection with me, I mean, what's the point now?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Uh huh, yeah, no that makes sense. So where okay?
So where are you at then with your relationship with
because you from the show, you were wanting sperm from
your sisters now soon to be ex husband. Is that
something where it's like is it off the table? Like
now that now that they're getting divorced, is like, is
(18:03):
the sperm for sure now off the table?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's pretty much off the table. I think we're just
stuck with you know, no kids, running man, not on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Any Would you want to go to a sperm bank
or do you want to know the person? Is that
kind of why you were going that route.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
That's what it was. You wanted to kind of know
the person.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You don't know where people come.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
From, right, No, I mean that that makes sense. And Alana,
for you, I mean you this was I mean you
grew up obviously in the spotlight. This has been your
life since. How old were you.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
When you did that show? I was six six years old?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yes, yeah, I'm now nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What has been the biggest I guess hurdle for you
doing growing up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
On TV?
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I would just probably say that, like people just have
a big conception of like that I'm still that six
year old little girl, and that just kind of sucks
just because like I'm grown now.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I'm in college.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I'm almost done with college, so I mean I'm growing up.
I'm not that six year old little girl anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Do you ever look back on the episodes and watch them.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Not really like when we're all together. I can say
that's probably like when we really watch them, because I
would just think it's funny. But like I see it
on TikTok or like YouTube and stuff sometimes and I'll
look it, but I don't sit there and just like
binge watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Sure, Sure, I'm just curious if there was anything that
you've watched where you're like, oh, I feel sad for
that little girl.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, yeah, there was.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
There was definitely times for sure, and I mean it
was hard to grow up in the spotlight and just
everybody know everything about you. But I mean I did it,
and I don't think I'd want to live my life
any other way because, like, if I'm being honest, I
don't know my life outside of being on TV. So
I don't even, I guess know what a normal life
would look like.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Jessica, for you, I mean, has was it hard
because at first it started with just obviously.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know Alana and Mama June.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So was it something where was it difficult being just
kind of one of the sisters and them having this fame?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I guess.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I mean it was a difficult, I mean because we
all kind of got brought into it. Sure, But I
mean you just you get used to it after a while,
like it's your life. You like I want to said,
you don't know any different. Yeah, that's what you're that's
what your that's new life.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
It just becomes like part of your routine.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, you got the money back from Dancing with the Stars,
Is there any outstanding payments that you're like, I still
feel like I'm not owed, Like I haven't been paid,
not really.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
You know, I just gotta take it as a loss
and move on. You know, I'm doing really good for
myself right now, So I just, like I said, take
it as a loss of move on.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
How do you deal with conflict with your mom getting
been everything that's happened for both of you, guys?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like, how do you guys walk through that?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Obviously she's in a better place and she's but there's
you know, again, we've talked about therapy so much on here.
It's we I'm aware of what childhood wounds can do
in adult life, So how do you walk through what
you've been through because of the things that your mom did?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
I think, like I said at the end of my movie,
I do love my mama, and she's my mom at
the end of the day, but I just no longer
have any expectations from her because you never know what
can happen with her.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So that's just how I just have to live life
with her, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I think that's also kind of a sad place
to be. Too though, Like, yes, it's like I do
the same thing with my dad. I don't expect him
to say the things that I would like him to
say and as and it's still sad to feel that
that's just my only expectation of it.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I mean, yeah, at times it is. But I also
like to look at where we are today. We are
in a really good spot right now. I'm very proud
of where my mom is right now. She's clean, very sober.
So where she is right now to compare to where
she was almost even two years from now, like from
where she was, I mean, I'm just proud of her.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
It's just a girl like you from there. So the past,
basically the past is back there. We just got to
make it better.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Right Jessica?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
For you?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What is you know? Is is it?
Speaker 8 (22:34):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Is it just focusing on what's kind of in front
of y'all?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, this Verden was in front of us.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
I mean, the past has already got and we can't
go back and change what she done, you, you know,
we can only just make things better.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Is there anything that you would have wanted or need
to like heal a piece of anything that might still
be unhealed with you guys with y'all's relationship, Like, would
you want to hear like or has she already said
she's sorry for X, Y and Z.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
She's already, She's sitting there. She told us know she's
sorry for all of the sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
All the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Definitely does say that she's sorry.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
And I can one hundred percent say she's now starting
to take accountability for what she did. She tells us
all the time, she's like, Hey, I know I messed up,
but I'm trying to better myself for everyone.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Let me fix this now before out.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, and that's a blessing too, because listen, I mean
as a mom, like I'm constantly like, hey, guys, I'm sorry,
mom lost her ship, you know what I mean, Like
I am, I am sorry. And I think there's there's
such beauty and accountability and now instead because it could
she could not take accountability and she could continue the
things she's doing and then then there's no relationship. So
I think that's a really beautiful thing that she's given
(23:41):
to you all to at least have this, you know,
foundation to move forward.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Sure, yeah, it's one percent.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
We're really happy that she was able to feel comfortable
enough to have like that with us, and I can't
have a lot of it to Justin. I like, Justin
definitely holds her accountable for.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You make her own to her mistakes for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For sure we need good guys like that not to
bring up. And speaking of good guys, uh, Bibbs, your
your dude had a little hit and run DUI situation.
How are you dealing with backlash of that, because that
seems like a lot of trouble and people are look
elson also want to look out for you.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
And I think at the end of the day, Dreylen
one hundred percent did wrong and he will admit to
that any day that he did wrong and he should
have never did what he did.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
But and I'm also not.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Trying to justify it, but he was young. I think
he just made a dumb mistake. He's definitely learned from it,
he knows that to never do that again. And I mean,
at the end of the day, I mean, you're young,
You're dumb, and I mean you make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Not everybody's perfect.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
And he's now doing what he needs to do to
handle his situation. And I'm very proud of how far
he's come from when.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He did that, and for you in this relationship, is
there are there red flags or things that if he
does break this boundary, like you're like, I'm out. I'm
not dealing with this because you are. You have a
very forgiving heart, given for sure sure your entire life.
And so there's also a piece where you know you
are now coming into being strong and older. So what
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would be like a deal breaker like I'm out.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I definitely think there are boundaries. I definitely make sure
that he holds himself accountable for sure. I like, I
don't I guess like if the boundaries would be like
if he didn't want to show up to court, like no,
I'm out, Like I'm not gonna bit a man that
doesn't want to show up to court or that wants
to go and run, you know. But he hasn't done that.
He's been very very like on time to his coordinate.
(25:43):
It's been there every single time he needs to be there.
Make sure he's like good with his lawyer. So I mean,
he hasn't broken any boundaries, but I there definitely are boundaries,
and if they were to be overstep, there's definitely things
like if.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
He cheats you're out. Oh peace, babe, peace good.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That's not me. That is not me.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you right now, you're gonna be
stuck in that wheel forever.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You don't get out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
So for sure, learn take my lessons. Let me big
Mama you right now, I'm taking your lessons. Okay, don't
do that? Does it go for you? What are you
excited about? The pe for people to see this season?
Speaker 9 (26:24):
Just that we all we're all real, are real people,
like some people think that we're not who would say
we are. We don't go through things they go through.
We all go through the same thing, even though we're
on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Our life's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yes, yeah, amen to that. Same with you, Alanna.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, I would probably say that to you.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
A lot of people just get the misconception of like
we're just these rich, famous celebrities. And it's like, I mean,
I'm not gonna say I'm poor, but I'm not going
to say I'm rich either, you know sure.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, listen, you're a college girl. You guys are
all doing your thing, and so thank you for coming.
Appreciate y'all and everyone make sure to watch Mama June
Family Crisis, New episodes Friday at eight pm on wee TV.
Thanks ladies, thank you all right, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Bye bye, bye bye by
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This week's guest episode, We've got Mama June and Lauren
coming on the show. They have a new season of
Mama June Family Crisis on we TV, so let's get
them on and hear all about it. Hey, guys, I'm Jana.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
How are you what you want to say?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I am a big fan?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's so sweet. Did you watch One Tree Hill? Were
you a One Tree Hiller?
Speaker 7 (00:37):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yeah, we're actually just talking about that again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh really, more about your music and stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Oh that's sweet. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, first and foremost, I just want to ask y'all,
do you guys do therapy?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No, but I have you have? Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm just curious because there's so much that you know
from from my past that I've you know, worked through
because a lot of it comes from, right the family
dynamic of things, whether it was daddy issues or this,
and then you know the childhood wounds of all of it.
So I'm curious, you know, Lauren, for you without that, like,
where do you wrestle with the things that have happened
(01:18):
in the family dynamic with your mom with your dad.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Right after my mom's edation and stuff, our network actually
kind of like stepped in and was like, you have
literally been through so much, like we literally don't know
how you're handling at all. So they did offer like
therapy to us. So I went through pretty much like
I was doing it twice a week. So I grew
like a really good bond with my therapist, Like she
(01:43):
still reaches out to me like every once in a
while and I just kind of update her all my
life and you know. And so from now, like I
learned better tools on like how to communicate and to
not like fall back through the cracks of like how
I was raised.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Yeah, and then I also like thing throughout the show,
like we do have somebody that is always on board,
Like when Anne passed away, they have somebody and every
time every season we have somebody if we choose to
talk to them, we have that on board.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Sure, And is it for something for you, Mama Jum
where you're just like I don't want to because I
don't either believe in it or because you don't think,
like what is it?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's not that we.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Don't believe in it, she don't think she needs it,
because honestly, I have to say, they like to call
it it come to Jesus thing a few years ago
and I started, like you said, you realize, I realize
a lot of my problems, like with the relationship with
my children, relationships with me, and came from like traumas
with my mom and so like I've kind of like
(02:45):
worked through that on my own kind of thing. Is
I'm just one of those times of people that don't
like to talk about my emotions.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Sure, I mean that makes sense, I guess.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then for you.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Through all of this, because you've obviously had to watch
so much of your life and your kids on TV,
is there something that and you know, like your daughter
was just talking about your drug addictions, is there something
that you would want your kids to know that maybe
you haven't told them.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Not really, because like we pretty much have been open
about like certain things, and like I've even told them,
like they call my pun to Jesus meetings, Like I've
even told them about that. Like I've even went and
said so far, like hey, I don't want you all
to wake up at like forty years old or forty one.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And say, hey, like I regret.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Like being this relationship that long, or I regret not
doing this or I were you know, I'm saying like,
so I have like been more open and like I
don't want them to like turn on like me at
like forty seven years old and being like I wish
I would have did something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Different, right, And then to the viewers that watch it,
you know, because listen, I mean when you it's hard
because you're putting your life out there and there's so
much that has gone on. They are all the headlines.
What would you want the viewers to know who you are?
And with the people that you've I mean dated, I
(04:11):
mean the couple of them have been sex offenders, Like
how do you wrestle that with being a mom and
having kids?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I just don't like this, Like, okay, so the two
people that like Jessica and Pumpkins father that happened way
after we were together, and the deal with another one
of my axes I have that was like that was
that and I didn't know about that problem.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But anybody else like I have honestly dated, like that
is my past and.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
They're in the past for a reason. And so I
don't like look at that person. I mean, I know
that's part of my past and that's who I am today. Sure,
but like I really don't like focus on that be like, Okay,
this is what I've done.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like I just don't like be a dead horse.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
That that make sense, because when you get out of
beta dead warce nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, no, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And that's the same kind of thing with regrets, right,
Like even if you were like, Okay, what's one thing
you'd want to do differently? Well, you're here now, so
you know, it's kind of that kind of same. But
is there something where you're like, I wish I wouldn't
have done X.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I don't know, like I feel like everything that I've
done has happened for a reason. To be honest with you,
like maybe like I was at Chelly kids, like I
feel like I wish that maybe I hadn't have done
like drugs in front of them, or I wish I
wouldn't have had went down that alley as much as
I went down that alley.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But like other than that, like I have like no regrets.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Sure, Lauren, you were saying that I was reading an
article that in People you said that you you know,
I think the zech quos I felt we just handled
this on our own without it being blasted for millions
to see. So now that you guys have the show
where your where's your mindset around that, because it again
is going to be for everyone to have their opinions
while you guys go through what you're going through.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I mean, if we're being honest, I just kind of
feel like everybody has their own opinion, and I mean
people can believe what they want to believe. Like I
know what happened in my marriage and the reason that
it didn't last. I know how well I take care
of my kids. I know what kind of cycles that
I'm breaking, and like for me, I don't really have
to prove that to anybody.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I don't have to prove that I'm a good mom.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
I don't have to prove that I did everything that
I could in my marriage before I decided, Hey, divorce
is my final say so, like I was just telling
people last week in New York, for me, you know
a lot of the times women are done way way
longer before men are, And Josh was still kind of
processing that, which one thousand percent he has the right to,
(06:49):
he has everything to do that. But for me, like
I have moved on and I am in a much
happier place, and I feel like, for the one time
in my life, for me, it's like I'm not having
to fix somebody else. I'm not having to fill up
somebody else's cup and then feel empty at the end
of the day, like like I genuinely feel.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Happier, you know, Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean I went through a very public divorce, tu
And it's like people, people will always have their own perception,
but you don't know what's inside the four walls besides
you exactly, you know. And I think it's it's you
can beat a dead horse saying like no, I'm a
good mom and I'm doing this and this is what happened.
This is the real truth. This is what I'm trying
to protect the kids from.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
But even if you tell them real truth, they're still
going to believe what they want to believe.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So it's like, I'm not going to keep arguing with you.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I know the truth.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I know that my kids are taken care of, and
I know that again at the end of the day,
as a woman and as an adult, there was things
that I could have done differently in.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
My marriage and vice versa. I'm both ends.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
So for me, it's just you just make the opinion
you want to make, you know.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
And all the time is like you know, they are
telling the story that they want you to know. I
mean they slung it off out there her or Josh
slung it out there just like me. If I slung
it all out there at you, y'all would be like whirlwinded.
And you know with this, I mean, y'all don't have
to know the full one truth. And I even told
(08:13):
her that when she decided to go and tell her
the poor story on, I said, look, you and Josh
sit down and y'all can tell whatever you know part
that y'all want to tell the world. You don't have
to tell every single detail.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, that makes sense, Mama Dune.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do you think that the drug use came from being
on the like having the public life that you had
and all the pressures and the comments and the was
that a source of like numbing or.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Like for me?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Like I always tell you all, I tell myself at fourteen,
I would never be on any you know, drugs or
anything like that because I have two sisters that I
had a pill addiction and boom at twenty.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I was on math and did that for four or
five years and then.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Went to cocaine.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Was I around a lot in this industry? Yes, and
you being in the industry, you know that they're at
every party. That's not a thing I don't think because
I was in this industry. But once I got in
that lifestyle, I realized that I could do more.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I could make more money, I could be more like,
I could be just, I could be more time.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
They feel like I had more time to do more things.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
So yes and no, if that makes sense. But as
far as noting the pain.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, yeah, well I mean listen, because it's like, at
the end of the day, we're all human and it's yes,
you guys chose to put your life out there in public,
and it's not easy to read things at least you know.
I don't like seeing negative comments. It sucks, you know,
So you know, I can't even imagine. What is the
biggest misconception you want to clear.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
I think the biggest misconception for me is that a
lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Oh, you've turned off to just be just like your mom.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
You're choosing me in like, no, I'm choosing myself and
I really wish people would like to see that because
for so long, like I raised my own kids, I
helped raise Lana, Like you know, now I do help
out with Kaitlyn and my mama and then and stuff
need help, like so I am always a helping hand
everywhere else. And for the first time, like I picked
(10:28):
myself and I'm not asking like everybody in the world
to be okay with my decision or who I'm with
or whatever, because like, I know how happy I am
at the end of the day. But for me, it's
just like everybody's like, you're just like your mom. And
if you would sit back and look at how many
like generational curses that I have broken, Like I'm actually
kind of'm proud to be standing here and being where
I am.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Sure absolutely, and I would ever have to say for
me is the worst thing that anybody says, Like if
I talk or I make a video a different way
or you know, they all.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Say, oh, well, she's using drugs. I'm five and a
half years clean, sober. I don't even smoke cigarettes, drink nothing,
And they were like, oh, she's back using drugs because
she's talking too fast.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Oh her I twitch. I'm like.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Really, like that is like the most stupidest thing anybody says.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Right, Well, and I'm and I'm sure that piece too
is it's hard because you're like, no, I am sober,
but you can't again you have to just rest in
what you know to be the truth rather than these other.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Like honestly, I'm not sure you know you've been You've
been in the public eye too, so like for you,
it's like you consistently keep saying that, like at some
point I'm going to get.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Sick of A and A and trying to defend myself.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, exactly, how was it taking in your sister, because
I you know, I have my girl, Savannah Crystal, you know,
she took in you know her her you know, her
brother's kids and when their parents were in prison and stuff.
But for you, was there a piece where it was
obviously that was your you know, the big sister, that
was what you did. But was there was that challenging
(12:01):
for you to kind of wrestle with why you were
having to do that.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Yeah, I definitely thought that that was probably one of
the biggest challenges like in my life, amongst a few
other things of course, but like managing just getting married,
managing like still trying to figure that out because we
were very young, still trying to figure out, like my
first kid, figure out how like action parent and the
(12:26):
right way to do things and things like that, and
then like I don't know, for me one hundred of percent,
it is like kind of hard to navigate.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, Yeah, that would, Yeah, I would, I would
think that so well, First of all, I am sorry
as well about your sister and your daughter. I can't
even imagine losing a child, losing a sibling, so you
know that is again I cannot even imagine that pain.
Has there been a moment And I know this is
(12:59):
like such a weird question, but when there is that,
I guess was there piece at the end for you
guys relationally? And then have you felt anything post like
has she come to like she has she come in
to dream of yours?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Has she done.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
All the time?
Speaker 8 (13:18):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
For an instance, Okay, Monday, last Monday, we got Caylen's
hair done.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Her thing is it's sweet Little Poison, and the song pretty.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Little Sorry, Pretty Little Poison was the song.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That we played at her funeral.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Okay, and that is her song that she shows up
with every time she was talk with So Kaitlin was
getting her hair done and we was at the end
of the pointment and she was the girl was like,
you like it? And then all of a sudden there's
different music playing and putting the song displayed and it
was just like, Okay, this is your mama just telling
you that she likes her hair. Or like when her
(13:55):
when Caitlyn's birthday was July twenty sixth, was in Colorado,
it got me in a lot of it played three
times back to back when we were going to gearon Nelson.
It messed me in a lot of a lot of
missed the exit three times to get in Nelson because
they paid three times.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I said, Caitlyn is your moment telling you, hey, birthday.
Trust me, she shows up.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, she definitely shows up.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
And one hundred percent think that like all of us
write piece because like literally everything she asked for, like
we had done, we still she asked to go.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
To Gatlinburg, Tennessee, before she passed. We all went and
spent a week out there with her.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I mean she was in a wheelchair, she could hardly
really move and.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Had the ability to even do that. So like for
her to get up, we all spent time together. We
all played cards.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Together, like really in her final moments, I feel like
we done literally all that we could do.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I love that. That's that's beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I always just love those hearing those stories because I
believe in that. I always think every time the light
you know, like you know, twitches, it's my grandpa, you know.
So I'm always yeah, and whenever I need them, I'm like, oh,
there he is.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Hey, Hey, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But so for you guys, like, what are you excited about,
because that's obviously there's been a lot of hardships and
addictions and relationships stuff like what what are you guys
like excited about for the season?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I think for this season, I am excited for people
to see a different side of me that like, even
though the bravest person in the family has kept everybody
together for seven seasons, it's okay for them to also
fall apart two because I do feel like that were
always played.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
By a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
And the only reason you know, a lot of people
hear my story is because I'm on TV. But there's
a lot of people that I have known and connected
with over this time that have like, hey, a guy
I've had to raise seven of my siblings. The mom
passed away, the dad passed away. You know, it's like
and they're still doing it, but they don't get the
recognition that I get. So for me, it is wanting
(15:58):
to open up and share that with everybody and be like,
it's okay to not always have to.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Have it all together.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sure, Mama June, I wasn't the same.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Thing with her.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's yeah, you just don't have to have it all together.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And how is your relationship? Like, what is what is
amazing about your man that you wish you would have
had in the path, Like what what is what makes
this relationship.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He is like really like good, Like with the kids,
they will definitely call him before they call me.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
They definitely will.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's sweet, and you're happy that your mom's happy, obviously
you guys. You guys walked her down the aisle. So
that's a sweet little moment there. Yes, I love that
so much. Well, ladies, thank you so much for coming on.
I really appreciate it. I'll be tuning in Mama June
Family Crisis new episodes Friday at eight pm on WE TV.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Than day, are you too?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Let's take a break, and then when we come back,
we're going to get Alana and Jessica on Hi Friends. Jessica,
I actually want to start with you, if that's okay,
(17:17):
because I was just reading up on your story and
I did not know that you didn't know who your
father was until you were your real father until you
went fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Oh I think.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Actually a little before that, Mama always told us who
he was.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh like I never met him. I didn't have a
reason to him.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
And if you waited that long to try to make
a connection with me, I mean, what's the point now?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Uh huh, yeah, no that makes sense. So where okay?
So where are you at then with your relationship with
because you from the show, you were wanting sperm from
your sisters now soon to be ex husband. Is that
something where it's like is it off the table? Like
now that now that they're getting divorced, is like, is
(18:03):
the sperm for sure now off the table?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's pretty much off the table. I think we're just
stuck with you know, no kids, running man, not on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Any Would you want to go to a sperm bank
or do you want to know the person? Is that
kind of why you were going that route.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
That's what it was. You wanted to kind of know
the person.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You don't know where people come.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
From, right, No, I mean that that makes sense. And Alana,
for you, I mean you this was I mean you
grew up obviously in the spotlight. This has been your
life since. How old were you.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
When you did that show? I was six six years old?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yes, yeah, I'm now nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What has been the biggest I guess hurdle for you
doing growing up.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
On TV?
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I would just probably say that, like people just have
a big conception of like that I'm still that six
year old little girl, and that just kind of sucks
just because like I'm grown now.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I'm in college.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I'm almost done with college, so I mean I'm growing up.
I'm not that six year old little girl anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Do you ever look back on the episodes and watch them.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Not really like when we're all together. I can say
that's probably like when we really watch them, because I
would just think it's funny. But like I see it
on TikTok or like YouTube and stuff sometimes and I'll
look it, but I don't sit there and just like
binge watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Sure, Sure, I'm just curious if there was anything that
you've watched where you're like, oh, I feel sad for
that little girl.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, yeah, there was.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
There was definitely times for sure, and I mean it
was hard to grow up in the spotlight and just
everybody know everything about you. But I mean I did it,
and I don't think I'd want to live my life
any other way because, like, if I'm being honest, I
don't know my life outside of being on TV. So
I don't even, I guess know what a normal life
would look like.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Jessica, for you, I mean, has was it hard
because at first it started with just obviously.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know Alana and Mama June.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So was it something where was it difficult being just
kind of one of the sisters and them having this fame?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I guess.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I mean it was a difficult, I mean because we
all kind of got brought into it. Sure, But I
mean you just you get used to it after a while,
like it's your life. You like I want to said,
you don't know any different. Yeah, that's what you're that's
what your that's new life.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
It just becomes like part of your routine.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, you got the money back from Dancing with the Stars,
Is there any outstanding payments that you're like, I still
feel like I'm not owed, Like I haven't been paid,
not really.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
You know, I just gotta take it as a loss
and move on. You know, I'm doing really good for
myself right now, So I just, like I said, take
it as a loss of move on.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
How do you deal with conflict with your mom getting
been everything that's happened for both of you, guys?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Like, how do you guys walk through that?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Obviously she's in a better place and she's but there's
you know, again, we've talked about therapy so much on here.
It's we I'm aware of what childhood wounds can do
in adult life, So how do you walk through what
you've been through because of the things that your mom did?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
I think, like I said at the end of my movie,
I do love my mama, and she's my mom at
the end of the day, but I just no longer
have any expectations from her because you never know what
can happen with her.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
So that's just how I just have to live life
with her, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I think that's also kind of a sad place
to be. Too though, Like, yes, it's like I do
the same thing with my dad. I don't expect him
to say the things that I would like him to
say and as and it's still sad to feel that
that's just my only expectation of it.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I mean, yeah, at times it is. But I also
like to look at where we are today. We are
in a really good spot right now. I'm very proud
of where my mom is right now. She's clean, very sober.
So where she is right now to compare to where
she was almost even two years from now, like from
where she was, I mean, I'm just proud of her.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
It's just a girl like you from there. So the past,
basically the past is back there. We just got to
make it better.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Right Jessica?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
For you?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What is you know? Is is it?
Speaker 8 (22:34):
That?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Is it just focusing on what's kind of in front
of y'all?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, this Verden was in front of us.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
I mean, the past has already got and we can't
go back and change what she done, you, you know,
we can only just make things better.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Is there anything that you would have wanted or need
to like heal a piece of anything that might still
be unhealed with you guys with y'all's relationship, Like, would
you want to hear like or has she already said
she's sorry for X, Y and Z.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
She's already, She's sitting there. She told us know she's
sorry for all of the sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
All the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Definitely does say that she's sorry.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
And I can one hundred percent say she's now starting
to take accountability for what she did. She tells us
all the time, she's like, Hey, I know I messed up,
but I'm trying to better myself for everyone.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Let me fix this now before out.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, and that's a blessing too, because listen, I mean
as a mom, like I'm constantly like, hey, guys, I'm sorry,
mom lost her ship, you know what I mean, Like
I am, I am sorry. And I think there's there's
such beauty and accountability and now instead because it could
she could not take accountability and she could continue the
things she's doing and then then there's no relationship. So
I think that's a really beautiful thing that she's given
(23:41):
to you all to at least have this, you know,
foundation to move forward.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Sure, yeah, it's one percent.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
We're really happy that she was able to feel comfortable
enough to have like that with us, and I can't
have a lot of it to Justin. I like, Justin
definitely holds her accountable for.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You make her own to her mistakes for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For sure we need good guys like that not to
bring up. And speaking of good guys, uh, Bibbs, your
your dude had a little hit and run DUI situation.
How are you dealing with backlash of that, because that
seems like a lot of trouble and people are look
elson also want to look out for you.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
And I think at the end of the day, Dreylen
one hundred percent did wrong and he will admit to
that any day that he did wrong and he should
have never did what he did.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
But and I'm also not.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Trying to justify it, but he was young. I think
he just made a dumb mistake. He's definitely learned from it,
he knows that to never do that again. And I mean,
at the end of the day, I mean, you're young,
You're dumb, and I mean you make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Not everybody's perfect.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
And he's now doing what he needs to do to
handle his situation. And I'm very proud of how far
he's come from when.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He did that, and for you in this relationship, is
there are there red flags or things that if he
does break this boundary, like you're like, I'm out. I'm
not dealing with this because you are. You have a
very forgiving heart, given for sure sure your entire life.
And so there's also a piece where you know you
are now coming into being strong and older. So what
(25:18):
would be like a deal breaker like I'm out.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I definitely think there are boundaries. I definitely make sure
that he holds himself accountable for sure. I like, I
don't I guess like if the boundaries would be like
if he didn't want to show up to court, like no,
I'm out, Like I'm not gonna bit a man that
doesn't want to show up to court or that wants
to go and run, you know. But he hasn't done that.
He's been very very like on time to his coordinate.
(25:43):
It's been there every single time he needs to be there.
Make sure he's like good with his lawyer. So I mean,
he hasn't broken any boundaries, but I there definitely are boundaries,
and if they were to be overstep, there's definitely things
like if.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
He cheats you're out. Oh peace, babe, peace good.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That's not me. That is not me.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you right now, you're gonna be
stuck in that wheel forever.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You don't get out of that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
So for sure, learn take my lessons. Let me big
Mama you right now, I'm taking your lessons. Okay, don't
do that? Does it go for you? What are you
excited about? The pe for people to see this season?
Speaker 9 (26:24):
Just that we all we're all real, are real people,
like some people think that we're not who would say
we are. We don't go through things they go through.
We all go through the same thing, even though we're
on TV.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Our life's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yes, yeah, amen to that. Same with you, Alanna.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, I would probably say that to you.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
A lot of people just get the misconception of like
we're just these rich, famous celebrities. And it's like, I mean,
I'm not gonna say I'm poor, but I'm not going
to say I'm rich either, you know sure.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, listen, you're a college girl. You guys are
all doing your thing, and so thank you for coming.
Appreciate y'all and everyone make sure to watch Mama June
Family Crisis, New episodes Friday at eight pm on wee TV.
Thanks ladies, thank you all right, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Bye bye, bye bye by
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