September 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Jana and Kristen are hanging out with model and actress Brooklyn Decker! She takes into life on set, and reveals that even she struggles with imposter syndrome.
Brooklyn holds nothing back when talking about her marriage to tennis pro Andy Roddick, including the story of why she left him hanging for 5 months without a callback!
Plus, hear the power of “grabbing a towel” and living a “lidless life”!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi girl, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Actually, Brooklyn, we could have used you about ten minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
Oh no, what am I walking into? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Perimenopause to moms of toddlers?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
You know, how old are your babies?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So?
Speaker 6 (00:22):
Almost two? Almost seven? Almost ten? Oh wow, and she's
pretty much the same. Yeah, what about you again?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Almost ten? Almost eight?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Two?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah, so no too yet?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Not listening.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
We've got big gaps over here. If it's contagious, sorry
about it, Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Listen, I wouldn't be Well, No, we're we're happy. Things
are easy, you know, you know, we know, we know,
we know, we know.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Things were happy, things were easy.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
What did we do?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, it's great, But I will say, like, how how
old are you? Brooklyn?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm thirty eight?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're thirty eight?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
See, like when it gets when we get into that
like that tier because we're in our forties, it's like
I'm exhausted by the end of the night.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
It's like with the sporting events and then chasing a
wild almost two year old, and it's just like and
then doing the things that we do during the day
it's just like I am exhausted.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh I need a nap every day, Like I need
a nap time, you know, like I've gotten my kids
out of the nap phase, but like I need a
twenty minute shut down or I don't, like I can't
make it through a day.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
It's so.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I mean, I think there's like some deficiencies, some legitimate
like perhaps an iron deficiency. Like I think we're dealing
with real deficiencies, right, But I also think it's totally
phase of life. I mean, aren't we all. We're all
just depleted, yes, and worn down. And I don't have
a third so.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
And I don't know that there is anything better or
anyone more appreciative of time down than just a mom
Like give me five minutes a silence, and I feel.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Five minutes, yeah, just five.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
And I don't need I don't ask for much, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I ask for nothing. Really.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I asked the other day for thirty minutes. I said, guys,
mom needs thirty minutes. And I looked right at my husband.
I was like, please, just I don't care if it
they can be loud in the living room, but I said,
let's I just need I need to go laate like
I don't ever do that ever ever, and so I
was like, I just need thirty minutes. I actually don't
know if I feel good. I was like, I don't
know what's going to so and I mean at thirty
(02:27):
one minutes, they were barreling through.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
The door like they just you know what I mean,
like it's timer went off.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It was a hard third, hard thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But listen, well, just what did you do.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
With your thirty? Like what did you what was your activity?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I actually just laid down and I was just I
didn't watch a show. I didn't scroll on my phone.
I didn't play with Doku, which is one of my
old time.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Failure telling us. I was just like so lovely.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
But anyways, so I've obviously we have a lot to
chat about. But I when I was reading the breakdown
and obviously I've seen the previous for run arounds, and
then I was, you know, looking to see like who
you've who you play And it's so interesting because I've
struggled with this a bit. So I'm just curious to
talk to someone else who's younger and has now roles
(03:14):
that you're a mom and it's like, listen, I am
a mom and I and I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I've got three kids.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
My buddy Shane had said like, hey, I want you
to do this movie, play my love interest. I was like, great, Great,
He's like, but you're a mom to a twenty four
year old and I was like, ooh, buddy, I was like,
I was like, that hurts my heart a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I was like, I.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Don't know, I just like I you know. I talked
to the director and I was like, listen, I really
just can't do that. I'm like, I think as old
as I've played so far as a mom to a
sixteen year old, and that even felt like a little
bit killing my soul. And so then two months later,
I book a movie but my daughter is nineteen in it,
and I'm just like, oh my gosh, I'm just here
and I have to accept that I'm here and I'm
the mom.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Playing to older kids.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
But and it took me a couple times doing it
where I like, I actually struggled with it.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, did you get at all?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Were you just like, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I had the opposite experience, like it was it was
it was help.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Me and I hate I hate get relate.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't want to say can't relate, but but let
me tell you, let me tell you why.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So I love it.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
So I I love you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I wish you were here with us, Like this is
going to be so good for me. I'm here for it.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Actually.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, it's my self help question after this one, because
I actually have a question for you as well.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, So, the the reason why the jump so in
my my character in this show, The run Rounds, I
play the mother of an eighteen year old boy man
and and it was a huge jump for me. The
oldest sort of child I had ever had on camera
is maybe six or seven years old, which which is
true to kind of my real life.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So that felt supernatural totally to jump into. What was
really funny was that I went from a series on Netflix.
It was called Grayson Frankie.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
She Loves It Obsessed. Oh love you, Mallory, Oh my girl.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Thank you, thank you. But I'm I am you know,
I'm just a young.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Spring chicken on that show, learning from the wisdom of
everyone around me, and just like a one eighty all
of a sudden, I'm one of the oldest people on set.
Both in character as an actor, but also on the
crew because you've got I mean, everyone is like young, hungry, eager,
excited to be there early in their careers. All the
lead actors are, you know, under I think twenty three
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years old. It was such a one eighty and it
was so freeing and liberating because I don't know about y'all,
but I feel like my career has been you know,
I have you know, I've had, I've had the titties out.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I've had the money out, like I've been.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Playing certain characters kind of my whole career, and then
all of a sudden, it was like, no makeup, I'm exhausted,
I've got this teenage son. I'm just like trying to
keep my family together, and it just fell well. One,
it felt definitely more true to me as a person. Yeah,
in my day to day there was like no glamor
to it. It was totally real and just really like
stripped back. And Two, it just was really joyful to
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be around younger people on set who have all the
energy in the world, so true what we're talking about,
who have all the hunger, all the work ethic, all
the talent, and it was like contagious like not a
single person on that set was exhausted, was tired, was
you know, there was just so much energy and it
really it was super uplifting and so I was super
(06:37):
it just it felt really freeing. There was a total
detachment from like any sort of vanity, any appearance, like
it didn't matter for my role in the show. And
and that felt really good. Love.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It was a nice change.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, it felt great good love that sink into your motherhood,
you know, I mean I like once I get there, right,
Like I loved I loved my daughter who play you know,
but of course she's like you know, like twenty five
in real life, but spot you.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Know, I'm just like sine, like, hey it is a workout.
Are you available to baby? But it's like, you know
you do.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's like I am a mother, So it's like that
motherly role does come out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's just you know, it's new. It would have preferred
big sister.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, anyways, I get that it happens.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Fast, like yeah, it wasn't for me. There wasn't like
an oh, now I'm a mom to a twelve thing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It's like I had two adults.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, like I had one where it's like you know,
my daughter actually played my daughter in it. But then
besides that, it's like I asked a manager, well, where
are like the mid thirty like thirty eight? So with
that don't have kids, you know what I mean, Like
where are those roles? Because it's literally like you play
twenties and then you go your mom like kid's true.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, like true, it is, that is true. I
don't know. I find it though, like I find those
characters to be for me personally, just more interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like it's not as cool in that, like you're not
the flashy young twenty something anymore in the thing, but
like there's there's like story there, yes, and uh yeah,
it just is.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's just it's again, it's just stripped back and like
for sure I'm glamorous and I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
No, I hear you on the energy piece though, And
no pressure to hang with your cast mates, which I
also think is moms.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We can appreciate you guys are young. Go do what
you're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Go have fun, bro. I like I cheer for you
from the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, you know, feel that's right.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
It feels right.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Okay, So kind of along the same lines, I want
to know how you bridged this gap, because one thing
that I've always loved about you is that obviously you're stunning.
We all know Brooklyn Decker like you're just iconic. I
would say.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Wow, I would Okay, Well, you're studying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
There's not a human alive that doesn't know your name,
true's and that is pretty telling of how much you've
done and and the name you've made for yourself. But
you started modeling and you made what I would in
my suite. I'm not an actress in my little world.
What seems to me to be the biggest jump would
(09:03):
be to acting. For someone to take you out of
what you were so good at and so powerful at,
and then to create a path for yourself into acting.
Tell me how that happened and what did you have
to think? Do believe in yourself? Give me all the
words of affirmation that we can get. Because I feel
there's a lot of people in our age group. I'm
(09:26):
going to lump you up into the forties just for
a second, but just our generation.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Well I'm there.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm to play a forty three year old for just
two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I feel I.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Belong. I belong beyond forties, even yeah, well, sure.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You've lived a lot of life.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Your husband is, you know, in the spotlight, like you've
just got a very full life. So probably in music city,
in industry dog gears, we would put you in the forties.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So do you look like you're twenty? It's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I just know there's so many people wanting to
make that transition from things that they're like good at
or they've been seemingly kind of like worked into and
would love to try something new. Like I feel that
way a little b about myself at this point and
kind of going like okay, in the forties, how do
I make the change or what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And you've done it so well, so I just want
to know everything.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
First of all, thank you. That was unbelievably flattering and
very kind. Thank you for those very very generous words.
That's very very nice. I first of all, frankly, I'm
still looking like I'm still trying to figure out how
to find that like inner affirmative voice that like inner
you belong here, you like you know, we all talk about,
(10:41):
oh my gosh, what do we talk about the imposter syndrome,
and that's that's never gone away. That's very real in
my day to day, and that's never really never really
goes away. So the affirmation, I think, I'm still trying
to figure out how to wake up and be like
I belong here, I deserve this, I feel comfortable on
this set.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'm still nervous.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I still don't feel you know, totally deserving in my body,
whatever it is. But I think I think something actually
I learned from I say, the kids, the young adults
on the show, which was so fascinating. You know, we
talk about like gen Z and the young kids and
social media is killing us and all these things. I
(11:21):
actually had a totally different perception after working with young people,
and by young I mean under twenty five, where these
are kids who, like we were taught, you know, thirties
and forties. I feel like we were all taught to
like stay in a silo. We were taught that, like,
you can't cross over, buys your time, earn your keep,
(11:42):
don't speak up until you at least have five ten
years under your belt.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Like we were taught to really silo ourselves.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Both creatively and professionally. And as a result, I think
we were taught that, like we can't have multitudes and
creativity can't exist in several buckets, and that hasn't been
true for me. Like, for me, creative energy is just energy,
and if you don't get it out of your body,
it becomes like destructive inside, you know, Like.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I really, I really feel that way.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So whether your creativity is like applied to writing or
art or design or acting or singing or whatever, that is,
like whatever your creative energy sort of generates for you,
I feel like it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Can exist in several buckets. But I feel like our
generation was taught to like never cross over. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I remember early early in my crew, when I'd first
transition into acting. In every single interview, we'd be like,
don't mention the modeling, don't mention the modeling. I was like,
so embarrassed, isn't the right word. I was like so
paranoid to be considered like a model turned or like
a hyphen it. Whereas now you look at everyone and
they've they're writing books and their painters and their singers
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and their actors.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like this new generation of individuals like they're just creative
and then you can be one thing.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They just try everything and it's fearless, and it's like
I do deserve to be here because I am being
my They show up fully of themselves versus like a
shell of themselves because they've been taught to be quiet,
whereas I feel like we were sort of taught to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Show as a shell of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
This is very long winded, but all that to say that,
like my transitions started, or really the root of my
transitions career wise is just because of like innate curiosity.
I would be modeling and I'd be traveling, and all
my friends were in college and I didn't go to college,
and I really really missed that experience, especially when my
friends were all at university, and so I started studying acting.
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This was like pre you couldn't really do online school
unless you were a full time student, so I like
online schooling wasn't an option, So I started. I had
an acting coach in New York named Joan Rosenfels, and
I started reading Tennessee Williams with her, and I just
started like learning about that, like just what it means
to read a play and beautiful just you know, imagery
(13:50):
and beautiful words. And that was like that was my
introduction to acting. And then I, yeah, I just it
was just an innate curiosity and a thirst that exists
in me still where I'm like, what can of to do?
Now there's like a piano downstairs, I started self to
it's ridiculous. I mean, like, I think part of this
is ADHD two. Like I think there's some undiagnosed Like
I said, we've got it. We've got an ADHD.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I've got an iron DEFIICI and we're gonna get a
testoster on the whole, like all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We're just gonna I need to.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Get channel again after the full panel after this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But but point is is, you know, I it's just
like an innate curiosity and and probably a little bit
of boredom, just the desire to constantly be learning new things.
That was kind of the genesis of me transitioning from
modeling into acting. But now, yeah, these these kids, I
say kids, but these people are just young people are
just doing it all and it's it's really beautiful to see.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
It's very it's very.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They're getting their ten thousand hours much quicker than we did.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
So unafraid, That's how I feel. I feel like they're
so unafraid and you're so right like the silos. That's
that I think is like we call it in our house,
like a lidless life, like take the lid off. And
just like I had this moment the other day, I'm like,
how do I just dream again? Like what do I
without condition really want, you know, like forty three?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
How much life do we have left? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We hope one hundred years, right, but like so, but
we're also conditioned to think like, if you're this, you're that.
Like Janna went from acting to music and then back
to acting and doing music at the same time, and
I just think it's so phenomenal, how unafraid you guys are.
And meanwhile, I'm just talking for a living You're doing great, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
One feels the other though, right, like one one creative
venture feels the other. So I would say, when you're talking,
I'd love the term lidless life, like are you writing
things down?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, by the way, me and my friends were
all asking ourselves this too, like especially.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Now that our kids, because I don't have a lot
of friends with kids sort of in the two range,
but our kids being a little bit older in school,
you know, for a few hours a day, all of
a sudden you're like, oh, I have.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Life back I have time back.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
So a lot of my friends who left the workforce
are going like, Wow, what impact do I want to have?
And how am I going to sort of reconnect with
my old self? And what is my old self? And
how does that relate to myself now? And and I
don't know the answer. I don't know how to get there.
I think I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
But a lot of people are like writing down, you know,
writing down, literally free writing every morning, like what comes
(16:14):
to mind?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
What's coming to mind? What am I? What do I
keep talking about? What do I keep seeing? What am
I dreaming about?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But yeah, it's it's so we're in a really interesting
phase of life where I'm sure everyone who reaches their
sort of thirties, forties, fifties.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Feels this way. But I'm like, oh, we're the youngest
forties that have.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Ever existed, or the hottest, We're the youngest, We're the
we are the youngest forties that have ever existed.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean, the Golden Girls are forty, you guys, the
cast of the Golden Girl.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I don't That's what's why I say it's so bleak, Brooklyn,
How long have you and Andy been married for.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Sixteen years.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Do you think having that more of a prize because
I feel like I don't see you guys out a
lot or I don't ever hear and is that a
is that? Ah? Do you do that on purpose? I
guess or intentionally?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yeah? Yeah. We live in North Carolina, where I grew up.
Before this we were in Austin.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean, I I love work, he loves work.
I don't think either of us love the culture of
our work, if that makes sense, Like the going out
and the being seen and the playing the game and
the pr thing, like neither one of us really like
to participate with that beyond sort of what's expected of
(17:42):
us and our professional sort of duties. Yeah, it's super intentional,
and it's not really I mean like I feel, I feel.
I think we both feel both very private but also
super candid. He has a podcast and he speaks super
freely on there, and I'm happy to talk about our
relationship and him. But yeah, I mean, I think more
than anything, we just like a very lazy, very lazy,
(18:05):
chill life.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
It comes from being very lazy people, I know, But I.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Think, but I think that's I think that's great though,
and I also I was reading one something you said
too that you didn't respond back to him for months.
So my my husband is a he was a former
professional football player back over like in the soccer world,
so and I knew nothing about soccer, but I so
I I just really didn't respond to him. And I
(18:30):
think that is because he DM me and I'm like
I and I you know, he's a good looking dude,
so I think women were obviously responding to him, and
I was just like hi, and then three weeks later
I'd be like, oh hey, sorry, like I got busy,
got busy and whatever. And I honestly think that's why
we like he was so like attracted to me because
I just did not care. And I knew nothing about soccer,
(18:53):
Like I just was like, oh you did what? Like who,
I don't know, were you playing a game?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Was this like was this intentional? Or were really just
like it was not?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Literally no, I had just like finished hoc all summer.
I was just like I wasn't like he lived in England,
like what you know what I mean, Like I've got
two kids here. He had a rule that you wouldn't
date I would and I didn't Dade a pact to
my girlfriends and so genuinely like I just didn't and
he was could barely see his little profile thing because
he was private, and I was just like I genuinely
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for the first time, like did not.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I was not impressed with my husband we met. He's
in music, and I was like, I actually didn't know
who he was. And then he tried to kiss me
our first three dates and I said, I'm not kissing you.
I think everybody kisses you on the first three dates.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
But it really wasn't a game, though, But I'll just
say to the girls though, I'm like, maybe that's like
I did not to say, play a game, But like,
why didn't you call him back?
Speaker 7 (19:47):
I had a boyfriend, you had a boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I was very attached.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was very attached and very young, Like I was
very we I mean I was twenty when I met
my husband, so I was very young.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I was very attached.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I broke my boyfriend, my ex boyfriend, and I
got love him broke up and I was single living
in New York for a few months, and Andy he
kept calling, like I think he sort of admits to
this now but kind of doesn't like I think it
became a bet, you know, like it became a ja with.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
His friends where they were like, how many times will
it take?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And so he kept calling and this one on for
five months and again all my friends who were at college.
I was living in New York, a city I absolutely
love now, but at the time I was, I was young.
It was a hard transition. I was missing home. And
my now manager said, you should call that guy back,
you know, and like before sliding into DMS, agents called agents.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It's so gross.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know that's what it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Was, like, so and so whatever agents called agents and so.
But this was the only person I called back. And
my manager goes, you know, there was this press conference
of Andy's from two thousand and seven he lost at
the Australian Open, and it's like the most cerbic, dry,
hilarious defeated press conference.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
He goes, you should watch this. He's really funny. I
think you'll like him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And he also has a foundation in Austin that he
still runs, and he's like, he's.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Got this foundation for kids, Like, I think you're.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Really didn't like this guy, and he goes, worst case scenario,
you'll have a bad first date and you'll have a
funny story to tell me. I'm like, yeah, that's true,
so call him back. And eight months later we were engaged,
which is crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Be crazy, No, it's but look at you guys now though,
sixteen years later, I mean you know, like that's so.
Have you guys ever played tennis together? Because I always
liked to. Did it not go well? Because twice twice
is pretty few times since sixty.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Two memorable memorable sessions. The first one, I broke a racket,
you know, he said to me, He said to me,
he goes. He was talking to me. He was great
because I've never played. I never the first time seeing
a Timis match I was.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
We were dating and his best friend sat next to him,
was like, this is thirty, this is forty, this is love.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like I had no idea so exactly like I didn't,
I was. I grew up in North Carolina. It was
like basketball, you know, some football, but it was like
you were Carolina duke.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
It was all college basketball.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So I we are playing tennis. He like gets this
racket with a very big head on it, so I
guess I don't miss, and like he tapes up the grip.
So it's really you know, beefy, I don't know. And
he starts pointing and he goes, just point at the ball,
point to where you wanted to go, and then hit
and the ball will goether.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
He's talking to me with this tone, which who did
not go well. And I said, I said, can you
stop talking to me like a five year old? And
he said to me, it still makes my blood boil.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He goes, if you play like a five year old,
I'm going to have to talk to you like a
five year old.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
And that is.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This was probably fifty I don't even know if you're
married yet. But I took that racket and I smashed
it into bits and I was like, never again, I'm
not going near this sport. And then we tried it
again during COVID because we just wanted to be outside.
So we tried it again during COVID and it was fine.
But like, yeah, it doesn't like your spouse shouldn't. I
just don't think they should teach you how to play sports.
(23:21):
I don't think that goes. I just don't think that works.
I haven't seen a successful version.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Of that yet.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, I get that.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Oh y'all, did you learn how to play well?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
I mean, like I know nothing about soccer, and so
you know, he'll try, but it's it's yeah, it's like
it's not the funnest you know.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So I just like, you're not going to go out
and like hit a ball again.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Like we've played tennis together before though, and I'm not
great at tennis, like at all. I just enjoy it,
and so when we're playing, it's he had made one
comment we were playing tennis. I'm like, okay, I don't
want to play anymore, like you know, they just got it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, we tried playing tennis once and that was that. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just me.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
See what is that? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I think what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think learning a sport together seems to be the
sweet spot for us. Yeah, so we can both suck
at golf, and we've been doing really well sucking at
golf together.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like that's fun for us.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, it's when like my husband actually loves tennis.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like well, I'll tell you what Alan.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Said, because we were like playing and I said like,
are you having fun? And he's like, well yeah, I
mean I'm just standing here hitting it back and forth
because he's like making me run from like side to side,
and I'm like, oh, so I'm not hitting it where
you want me to hit that. I'm just like glad,
I'm hitting it over the night like baic.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
God, we're not meant to do. We're not meant to do.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
We're just not meant to learn sports from partners. I
don't think that's it's just we just didn't know that's
not a successful endeavor for for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
For us.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
What is your favorite thing about him? And the one
thing where it's like, after sixteen years, it's like the
most frustrating.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
My favorite thing. I mean, there's so many. He's a
really good dad. I love him really really really really
really good dad. And that's just like that's very sexy. Yeah,
that's very hot. Yeah it is good dadding going on.
I'm yeah, constantly impressed by his like dadding. I think
that's very attractive. And then there's this funny thing when
(25:31):
so when you're on a tennis like the professionals, when
they're playing a match, they can ask like a ball
kid for a towel to towel off, and typically it's
like they need it, but also it can be a
strategy of like a game's not going well and they
need to just like take a breath and just chill
out and go and grab a towel and like have
a moment before they head back out there.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Like it's kind of without having a changeover.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's a way for them to kind of collect literally
take two seconds to collect themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe we should start doing tell his moms.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, just like I give me a town doesn't it's truly.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, breathed it in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But this guy, if there's like it makes me crazy
if there's an emergency, I'm saying it's quietly. I think
you can hear me if there's like an emergency. The
first thing he.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Does, can I get a towel? Give me a towel? No,
our son fractured his tibia.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No blood, like just was spinning in circles and slipped
on a cordboard box and fractured tibia.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
He was eighteen months old. And there's like literally nothing
to clean up and anti panics and he's like, can
I get a someone give me a towel. There was
no one else there. There was me and him and
our kid. I'm like, I'm not getting up tower right now. Bro, No,
that makes me crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Like that, please come hang out?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh, my gosh, I will.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Anytime you're in Nashville, please let us know.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I will. Wow, I'm actually there.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm there quite a bit, but yeah i am. The
towel thing drives me crazy, but it's like it's such
a it's such a it's like so meditative for him,
it's so habitual that to take that away from him
feels cruel.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It's also not about wildly hard to understand.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Brand.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Really it's not amazing. I see for your son and
I would probably are you giving me? Like really right
now in medical emergency is not my favorite Brooklyn. You
are just a joy.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
And I am now going to watch run arounds because
I love you and now we're all friends, so there
we go.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Thank you friends. It's really fun. It's like it's I
never watch anything I'm in, Jianna. Do you watch stuff
that you're in? Can you watch yourself on camera?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
On screen?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
The only times I'll ever ask to watch something is
it's like if it was a really emotional scene, I
want to see how it edited together, But like no,
I don't want to watch something start to finish or no.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
It's hard. It's hard. It's like very for me.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Thanks too much, I'm like, why did I say it
like that? Or like I should have done it like
this or that was bad.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
You're like that one take? Why didn't they use the
one take exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Really?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
This, you know, you're.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It's just heady, like you can't remove yourself from the thing.
This is the first thing, and probably because I'm just
a mom in the show, this is the first thing
I've been able to watch and.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Like savor, oh, enjoy it good And it's young adults,
so like, you know, young adult, Like the steaks are
are nice, you know, like the steaks are You're not
dealing with like life ending stuff you're dealing with like
chasing dreams and joy and shenanigans, and like it takes
me back to high school.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Like it's so nostalgic when I watch it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It really it's like the first thing I've ever watched
front to back truly of anything I've done where.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I can go like, ah, this feels.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Just nostalgic and joyful and silly and fun and it's great.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Well, now I know we're watching tonight because we need
a new so perfect and then Grayson Frankie, Yes, Okay,
Brooklyn you're the best.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Thanks girl, Thank.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
You all so much. Thank you give me a town.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You can't even hear it. I watched the reaction. She
can't even hear it.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
The towel. The towel makes me cri cra.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You're the best girl.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Whatever, whatever you need. All right, y'all, Thanks for the time.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
By H.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi girl, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Actually, Brooklyn, we could have used you about ten minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
Oh no, what am I walking into? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Perimenopause to moms of toddlers?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
You know, how old are your babies?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So?
Speaker 6 (00:22):
Almost two? Almost seven? Almost ten? Oh wow, and she's
pretty much the same. Yeah, what about you again?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Almost ten? Almost eight?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Two?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah, so no too yet?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Not listening.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
We've got big gaps over here. If it's contagious, sorry
about it, Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Listen, I wouldn't be Well, No, we're we're happy. Things
are easy, you know, you know, we know, we know,
we know, we know.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Things were happy, things were easy.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
What did we do?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, it's great, But I will say, like, how how
old are you? Brooklyn?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm thirty eight?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're thirty eight?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
See, like when it gets when we get into that
like that tier because we're in our forties, it's like
I'm exhausted by the end of the night.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
It's like with the sporting events and then chasing a
wild almost two year old, and it's just like and
then doing the things that we do during the day
it's just like I am exhausted.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh I need a nap every day, Like I need
a nap time, you know, like I've gotten my kids
out of the nap phase, but like I need a
twenty minute shut down or I don't, like I can't
make it through a day.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
It's so.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I mean, I think there's like some deficiencies, some legitimate
like perhaps an iron deficiency. Like I think we're dealing
with real deficiencies, right, But I also think it's totally
phase of life. I mean, aren't we all. We're all
just depleted, yes, and worn down. And I don't have
a third so.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
And I don't know that there is anything better or
anyone more appreciative of time down than just a mom
Like give me five minutes a silence, and I feel.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Five minutes, yeah, just five.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
And I don't need I don't ask for much, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I ask for nothing. Really.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I asked the other day for thirty minutes. I said, guys,
mom needs thirty minutes. And I looked right at my husband.
I was like, please, just I don't care if it
they can be loud in the living room, but I said,
let's I just need I need to go laate like
I don't ever do that ever ever, and so I
was like, I just need thirty minutes. I actually don't
know if I feel good. I was like, I don't
know what's going to so and I mean at thirty
(02:27):
one minutes, they were barreling through.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
The door like they just you know what I mean,
like it's timer went off.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It was a hard third, hard thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But listen, well, just what did you do.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
With your thirty? Like what did you what was your activity?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
I actually just laid down and I was just I
didn't watch a show. I didn't scroll on my phone.
I didn't play with Doku, which is one of my
old time.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Failure telling us. I was just like so lovely.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
But anyways, so I've obviously we have a lot to
chat about. But I when I was reading the breakdown
and obviously I've seen the previous for run arounds, and
then I was, you know, looking to see like who
you've who you play And it's so interesting because I've
struggled with this a bit. So I'm just curious to
talk to someone else who's younger and has now roles
(03:14):
that you're a mom and it's like, listen, I am
a mom and I and I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I've got three kids.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
My buddy Shane had said like, hey, I want you
to do this movie, play my love interest. I was like, great, Great,
He's like, but you're a mom to a twenty four
year old and I was like, ooh, buddy, I was like,
I was like, that hurts my heart a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I was like, I.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Don't know, I just like I you know. I talked
to the director and I was like, listen, I really
just can't do that. I'm like, I think as old
as I've played so far as a mom to a
sixteen year old, and that even felt like a little
bit killing my soul. And so then two months later,
I book a movie but my daughter is nineteen in it,
and I'm just like, oh my gosh, I'm just here
and I have to accept that I'm here and I'm
the mom.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Playing to older kids.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
But and it took me a couple times doing it
where I like, I actually struggled with it.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, did you get at all?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Were you just like, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I had the opposite experience, like it was it was
it was help.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Me and I hate I hate get relate.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't want to say can't relate, but but let
me tell you, let me tell you why.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So I love it.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
So I I love you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I wish you were here with us, Like this is
going to be so good for me. I'm here for it.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Actually.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, it's my self help question after this one, because
I actually have a question for you as well.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, So, the the reason why the jump so in
my my character in this show, The run Rounds, I
play the mother of an eighteen year old boy man
and and it was a huge jump for me. The
oldest sort of child I had ever had on camera
is maybe six or seven years old, which which is
true to kind of my real life.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So that felt supernatural totally to jump into. What was
really funny was that I went from a series on Netflix.
It was called Grayson Frankie.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
She Loves It Obsessed. Oh love you, Mallory, Oh my girl.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Thank you, thank you. But I'm I am you know,
I'm just a young.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Spring chicken on that show, learning from the wisdom of
everyone around me, and just like a one eighty all
of a sudden, I'm one of the oldest people on set.
Both in character as an actor, but also on the
crew because you've got I mean, everyone is like young, hungry, eager,
excited to be there early in their careers. All the
lead actors are, you know, under I think twenty three
(05:33):
years old. It was such a one eighty and it
was so freeing and liberating because I don't know about y'all,
but I feel like my career has been you know,
I have you know, I've had, I've had the titties out.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I've had the money out, like I've been.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Playing certain characters kind of my whole career, and then
all of a sudden, it was like, no makeup, I'm exhausted,
I've got this teenage son. I'm just like trying to
keep my family together, and it just fell well. One,
it felt definitely more true to me as a person. Yeah,
in my day to day there was like no glamor
to it. It was totally real and just really like
stripped back. And Two, it just was really joyful to
(06:15):
be around younger people on set who have all the
energy in the world, so true what we're talking about,
who have all the hunger, all the work ethic, all
the talent, and it was like contagious like not a
single person on that set was exhausted, was tired, was
you know, there was just so much energy and it
really it was super uplifting and so I was super
(06:37):
it just it felt really freeing. There was a total
detachment from like any sort of vanity, any appearance, like
it didn't matter for my role in the show. And
and that felt really good. Love.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It was a nice change.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, it felt great good love that sink into your motherhood,
you know, I mean I like once I get there, right,
Like I loved I loved my daughter who play you know,
but of course she's like you know, like twenty five
in real life, but spot you.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Know, I'm just like sine, like, hey it is a workout.
Are you available to baby? But it's like, you know
you do.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's like I am a mother, So it's like that
motherly role does come out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's just you know, it's new. It would have preferred
big sister.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, anyways, I get that it happens.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Fast, like yeah, it wasn't for me. There wasn't like
an oh, now I'm a mom to a twelve thing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It's like I had two adults.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yeah, like I had one where it's like you know,
my daughter actually played my daughter in it. But then
besides that, it's like I asked a manager, well, where
are like the mid thirty like thirty eight? So with
that don't have kids, you know what I mean, Like
where are those roles? Because it's literally like you play
twenties and then you go your mom like kid's true.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, like true, it is, that is true. I
don't know. I find it though, like I find those
characters to be for me personally, just more interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like it's not as cool in that, like you're not
the flashy young twenty something anymore in the thing, but
like there's there's like story there, yes, and uh yeah,
it just is.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's just it's again, it's just stripped back and like
for sure I'm glamorous and I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
No, I hear you on the energy piece though, And
no pressure to hang with your cast mates, which I
also think is moms.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We can appreciate you guys are young. Go do what
you're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Go have fun, bro. I like I cheer for you
from the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, you know, feel that's right.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
It feels right.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Okay, So kind of along the same lines, I want
to know how you bridged this gap, because one thing
that I've always loved about you is that obviously you're stunning.
We all know Brooklyn Decker like you're just iconic. I
would say.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Wow, I would Okay, Well, you're studying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
There's not a human alive that doesn't know your name,
true's and that is pretty telling of how much you've
done and and the name you've made for yourself. But
you started modeling and you made what I would in
my suite. I'm not an actress in my little world.
What seems to me to be the biggest jump would
(09:03):
be to acting. For someone to take you out of
what you were so good at and so powerful at,
and then to create a path for yourself into acting.
Tell me how that happened and what did you have
to think? Do believe in yourself? Give me all the
words of affirmation that we can get. Because I feel
there's a lot of people in our age group. I'm
(09:26):
going to lump you up into the forties just for
a second, but just our generation.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Well I'm there.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm to play a forty three year old for just
two minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I feel I.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Belong. I belong beyond forties, even yeah, well, sure.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You've lived a lot of life.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Your husband is, you know, in the spotlight, like you've
just got a very full life. So probably in music city,
in industry dog gears, we would put you in the forties.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So do you look like you're twenty? It's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I just know there's so many people wanting to
make that transition from things that they're like good at
or they've been seemingly kind of like worked into and
would love to try something new. Like I feel that
way a little b about myself at this point and
kind of going like okay, in the forties, how do
I make the change or what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And you've done it so well, so I just want
to know everything.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
First of all, thank you. That was unbelievably flattering and
very kind. Thank you for those very very generous words.
That's very very nice. I first of all, frankly, I'm
still looking like I'm still trying to figure out how
to find that like inner affirmative voice that like inner
you belong here, you like you know, we all talk about,
(10:41):
oh my gosh, what do we talk about the imposter syndrome,
and that's that's never gone away. That's very real in
my day to day, and that's never really never really
goes away. So the affirmation, I think, I'm still trying
to figure out how to wake up and be like
I belong here, I deserve this, I feel comfortable on
this set.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'm still nervous.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I still don't feel you know, totally deserving in my body,
whatever it is. But I think I think something actually
I learned from I say, the kids, the young adults
on the show, which was so fascinating. You know, we
talk about like gen Z and the young kids and
social media is killing us and all these things. I
(11:21):
actually had a totally different perception after working with young people,
and by young I mean under twenty five, where these
are kids who, like we were taught, you know, thirties
and forties. I feel like we were all taught to
like stay in a silo. We were taught that, like,
you can't cross over, buys your time, earn your keep,
(11:42):
don't speak up until you at least have five ten
years under your belt.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Like we were taught to really silo ourselves.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Both creatively and professionally. And as a result, I think
we were taught that, like we can't have multitudes and
creativity can't exist in several buckets, and that hasn't been
true for me. Like, for me, creative energy is just energy,
and if you don't get it out of your body,
it becomes like destructive inside, you know, Like.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
I really, I really feel that way.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So whether your creativity is like applied to writing or
art or design or acting or singing or whatever, that is,
like whatever your creative energy sort of generates for you,
I feel like it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Can exist in several buckets. But I feel like our
generation was taught to like never cross over. You know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I remember early early in my crew, when I'd first
transition into acting. In every single interview, we'd be like,
don't mention the modeling, don't mention the modeling. I was like,
so embarrassed, isn't the right word. I was like so
paranoid to be considered like a model turned or like
a hyphen it. Whereas now you look at everyone and
they've they're writing books and their painters and their singers
(12:44):
and their actors.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like this new generation of individuals like they're just creative
and then you can be one thing.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They just try everything and it's fearless, and it's like
I do deserve to be here because I am being
my They show up fully of themselves versus like a
shell of themselves because they've been taught to be quiet,
whereas I feel like we were sort of taught to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Show as a shell of ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
This is very long winded, but all that to say that,
like my transitions started, or really the root of my
transitions career wise is just because of like innate curiosity.
I would be modeling and I'd be traveling, and all
my friends were in college and I didn't go to college,
and I really really missed that experience, especially when my
friends were all at university, and so I started studying acting.
(13:28):
This was like pre you couldn't really do online school
unless you were a full time student, so I like
online schooling wasn't an option, So I started. I had
an acting coach in New York named Joan Rosenfels, and
I started reading Tennessee Williams with her, and I just
started like learning about that, like just what it means
to read a play and beautiful just you know, imagery
(13:50):
and beautiful words. And that was like that was my
introduction to acting. And then I, yeah, I just it
was just an innate curiosity and a thirst that exists
in me still where I'm like, what can of to do?
Now there's like a piano downstairs, I started self to
it's ridiculous. I mean, like, I think part of this
is ADHD two. Like I think there's some undiagnosed Like
I said, we've got it. We've got an ADHD.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I've got an iron DEFIICI and we're gonna get a
testoster on the whole, like all of it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We're just gonna I need to.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Get channel again after the full panel after this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But but point is is, you know, I it's just
like an innate curiosity and and probably a little bit
of boredom, just the desire to constantly be learning new things.
That was kind of the genesis of me transitioning from
modeling into acting. But now, yeah, these these kids, I
say kids, but these people are just young people are
just doing it all and it's it's really beautiful to see.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
It's very it's very.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They're getting their ten thousand hours much quicker than we did.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
So unafraid, That's how I feel. I feel like they're
so unafraid and you're so right like the silos. That's
that I think is like we call it in our house,
like a lidless life, like take the lid off. And
just like I had this moment the other day, I'm like,
how do I just dream again? Like what do I
without condition really want, you know, like forty three?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
How much life do we have left? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We hope one hundred years, right, but like so, but
we're also conditioned to think like, if you're this, you're that.
Like Janna went from acting to music and then back
to acting and doing music at the same time, and
I just think it's so phenomenal, how unafraid you guys are.
And meanwhile, I'm just talking for a living You're doing great, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
One feels the other though, right, like one one creative
venture feels the other. So I would say, when you're talking,
I'd love the term lidless life, like are you writing
things down?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, by the way, me and my friends were
all asking ourselves this too, like especially.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Now that our kids, because I don't have a lot
of friends with kids sort of in the two range,
but our kids being a little bit older in school,
you know, for a few hours a day, all of
a sudden you're like, oh, I have.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Life back I have time back.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
So a lot of my friends who left the workforce
are going like, Wow, what impact do I want to have?
And how am I going to sort of reconnect with
my old self? And what is my old self? And
how does that relate to myself now? And and I
don't know the answer. I don't know how to get there.
I think I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
But a lot of people are like writing down, you know,
writing down, literally free writing every morning, like what comes
(16:14):
to mind?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
What's coming to mind? What am I? What do I
keep talking about? What do I keep seeing? What am
I dreaming about?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But yeah, it's it's so we're in a really interesting
phase of life where I'm sure everyone who reaches their
sort of thirties, forties, fifties.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Feels this way. But I'm like, oh, we're the youngest
forties that have.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Ever existed, or the hottest, We're the youngest, We're the
we are the youngest forties that have ever existed.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean, the Golden Girls are forty, you guys, the
cast of the Golden Girl.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I don't That's what's why I say it's so bleak, Brooklyn,
How long have you and Andy been married for.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Sixteen years.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Do you think having that more of a prize because
I feel like I don't see you guys out a
lot or I don't ever hear and is that a
is that? Ah? Do you do that on purpose? I
guess or intentionally?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yeah? Yeah. We live in North Carolina, where I grew up.
Before this we were in Austin.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean, I I love work, he loves work.
I don't think either of us love the culture of
our work, if that makes sense, Like the going out
and the being seen and the playing the game and
the pr thing, like neither one of us really like
to participate with that beyond sort of what's expected of
(17:42):
us and our professional sort of duties. Yeah, it's super intentional,
and it's not really I mean like I feel, I feel.
I think we both feel both very private but also
super candid. He has a podcast and he speaks super
freely on there, and I'm happy to talk about our
relationship and him. But yeah, I mean, I think more
than anything, we just like a very lazy, very lazy,
(18:05):
chill life.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
It comes from being very lazy people, I know, But I.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Think, but I think that's I think that's great though,
and I also I was reading one something you said
too that you didn't respond back to him for months.
So my my husband is a he was a former
professional football player back over like in the soccer world,
so and I knew nothing about soccer, but I so
I I just really didn't respond to him. And I
(18:30):
think that is because he DM me and I'm like
I and I you know, he's a good looking dude,
so I think women were obviously responding to him, and
I was just like hi, and then three weeks later
I'd be like, oh hey, sorry, like I got busy,
got busy and whatever. And I honestly think that's why
we like he was so like attracted to me because
I just did not care. And I knew nothing about soccer,
(18:53):
Like I just was like, oh you did what? Like who,
I don't know, were you playing a game?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Was this like was this intentional? Or were really just
like it was not?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Literally no, I had just like finished hoc all summer.
I was just like I wasn't like he lived in England,
like what you know what I mean, Like I've got
two kids here. He had a rule that you wouldn't
date I would and I didn't Dade a pact to
my girlfriends and so genuinely like I just didn't and
he was could barely see his little profile thing because
he was private, and I was just like I genuinely
(19:25):
for the first time, like did not.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I was not impressed with my husband we met. He's
in music, and I was like, I actually didn't know
who he was. And then he tried to kiss me
our first three dates and I said, I'm not kissing you.
I think everybody kisses you on the first three dates.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
But it really wasn't a game, though, But I'll just
say to the girls though, I'm like, maybe that's like
I did not to say, play a game, But like,
why didn't you call him back?
Speaker 7 (19:47):
I had a boyfriend, you had a boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I was very attached.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was very attached and very young, Like I was
very we I mean I was twenty when I met
my husband, so I was very young.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I was very attached.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I broke my boyfriend, my ex boyfriend, and I
got love him broke up and I was single living
in New York for a few months, and Andy he
kept calling, like I think he sort of admits to
this now but kind of doesn't like I think it
became a bet, you know, like it became a ja with.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
His friends where they were like, how many times will
it take?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And so he kept calling and this one on for
five months and again all my friends who were at college.
I was living in New York, a city I absolutely
love now, but at the time I was, I was young.
It was a hard transition. I was missing home. And
my now manager said, you should call that guy back,
you know, and like before sliding into DMS, agents called agents.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It's so gross.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know that's what it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Was, like, so and so whatever agents called agents and so.
But this was the only person I called back. And
my manager goes, you know, there was this press conference
of Andy's from two thousand and seven he lost at
the Australian Open, and it's like the most cerbic, dry,
hilarious defeated press conference.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
He goes, you should watch this. He's really funny. I
think you'll like him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And he also has a foundation in Austin that he
still runs, and he's like, he's.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Got this foundation for kids, Like, I think you're.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Really didn't like this guy, and he goes, worst case scenario,
you'll have a bad first date and you'll have a
funny story to tell me. I'm like, yeah, that's true,
so call him back. And eight months later we were engaged,
which is crazy.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Be crazy, No, it's but look at you guys now though,
sixteen years later, I mean you know, like that's so.
Have you guys ever played tennis together? Because I always
liked to. Did it not go well? Because twice twice
is pretty few times since sixty.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Two memorable memorable sessions. The first one, I broke a racket,
you know, he said to me, He said to me,
he goes. He was talking to me. He was great
because I've never played. I never the first time seeing
a Timis match I was.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
We were dating and his best friend sat next to him,
was like, this is thirty, this is forty, this is love.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like I had no idea so exactly like I didn't,
I was. I grew up in North Carolina. It was
like basketball, you know, some football, but it was like
you were Carolina duke.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
It was all college basketball.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So I we are playing tennis. He like gets this
racket with a very big head on it, so I
guess I don't miss, and like he tapes up the grip.
So it's really you know, beefy, I don't know. And
he starts pointing and he goes, just point at the ball,
point to where you wanted to go, and then hit
and the ball will goether.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
He's talking to me with this tone, which who did
not go well. And I said, I said, can you
stop talking to me like a five year old? And
he said to me, it still makes my blood boil.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He goes, if you play like a five year old,
I'm going to have to talk to you like a
five year old.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
And that is.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This was probably fifty I don't even know if you're
married yet. But I took that racket and I smashed
it into bits and I was like, never again, I'm
not going near this sport. And then we tried it
again during COVID because we just wanted to be outside.
So we tried it again during COVID and it was fine.
But like, yeah, it doesn't like your spouse shouldn't. I
just don't think they should teach you how to play sports.
(23:21):
I don't think that goes. I just don't think that works.
I haven't seen a successful version.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Of that yet.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, I get that.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Oh y'all, did you learn how to play well?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
I mean, like I know nothing about soccer, and so
you know, he'll try, but it's it's yeah, it's like
it's not the funnest you know.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So I just like, you're not going to go out
and like hit a ball again.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Like we've played tennis together before though, and I'm not
great at tennis, like at all. I just enjoy it,
and so when we're playing, it's he had made one
comment we were playing tennis. I'm like, okay, I don't
want to play anymore, like you know, they just got it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, we tried playing tennis once and that was that. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just me.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
See what is that? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I think what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think learning a sport together seems to be the
sweet spot for us. Yeah, so we can both suck
at golf, and we've been doing really well sucking at
golf together.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like that's fun for us.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, it's when like my husband actually loves tennis.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like well, I'll tell you what Alan.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Said, because we were like playing and I said like,
are you having fun? And he's like, well yeah, I
mean I'm just standing here hitting it back and forth
because he's like making me run from like side to side,
and I'm like, oh, so I'm not hitting it where
you want me to hit that. I'm just like glad,
I'm hitting it over the night like baic.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
God, we're not meant to do. We're not meant to do.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
We're just not meant to learn sports from partners. I
don't think that's it's just we just didn't know that's
not a successful endeavor for for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
For us.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
What is your favorite thing about him? And the one
thing where it's like, after sixteen years, it's like the
most frustrating.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
My favorite thing. I mean, there's so many. He's a
really good dad. I love him really really really really
really good dad. And that's just like that's very sexy. Yeah,
that's very hot. Yeah it is good dadding going on.
I'm yeah, constantly impressed by his like dadding. I think
that's very attractive. And then there's this funny thing when
(25:31):
so when you're on a tennis like the professionals, when
they're playing a match, they can ask like a ball
kid for a towel to towel off, and typically it's
like they need it, but also it can be a
strategy of like a game's not going well and they
need to just like take a breath and just chill
out and go and grab a towel and like have
a moment before they head back out there.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Like it's kind of without having a changeover.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's a way for them to kind of collect literally
take two seconds to collect themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe we should start doing tell his moms.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, just like I give me a town doesn't it's truly.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, breathed it in.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But this guy, if there's like it makes me crazy
if there's an emergency, I'm saying it's quietly. I think
you can hear me if there's like an emergency. The
first thing he.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Does, can I get a towel? Give me a towel? No,
our son fractured his tibia.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No blood, like just was spinning in circles and slipped
on a cordboard box and fractured tibia.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
He was eighteen months old. And there's like literally nothing
to clean up and anti panics and he's like, can
I get a someone give me a towel. There was
no one else there. There was me and him and
our kid. I'm like, I'm not getting up tower right now. Bro, No,
that makes me crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Like that, please come hang out?
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh, my gosh, I will.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Anytime you're in Nashville, please let us know.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I will. Wow, I'm actually there.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm there quite a bit, but yeah i am. The
towel thing drives me crazy, but it's like it's such
a it's such a it's like so meditative for him,
it's so habitual that to take that away from him
feels cruel.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It's also not about wildly hard to understand.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Brand.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Really it's not amazing. I see for your son and
I would probably are you giving me? Like really right
now in medical emergency is not my favorite Brooklyn. You
are just a joy.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
And I am now going to watch run arounds because
I love you and now we're all friends, so there
we go.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Thank you friends. It's really fun. It's like it's I
never watch anything I'm in, Jianna. Do you watch stuff
that you're in? Can you watch yourself on camera?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
On screen?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
The only times I'll ever ask to watch something is
it's like if it was a really emotional scene, I
want to see how it edited together, But like no,
I don't want to watch something start to finish or no.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
It's hard. It's hard. It's like very for me.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Thanks too much, I'm like, why did I say it
like that? Or like I should have done it like
this or that was bad.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
You're like that one take? Why didn't they use the
one take exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Really?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
This, you know, you're.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It's just heady, like you can't remove yourself from the thing.
This is the first thing, and probably because I'm just
a mom in the show, this is the first thing
I've been able to watch and.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Like savor, oh, enjoy it good And it's young adults,
so like, you know, young adult, Like the steaks are
are nice, you know, like the steaks are You're not
dealing with like life ending stuff you're dealing with like
chasing dreams and joy and shenanigans, and like it takes
me back to high school.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Like it's so nostalgic when I watch it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It really it's like the first thing I've ever watched
front to back truly of anything I've done where.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I can go like, ah, this feels.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Just nostalgic and joyful and silly and fun and it's great.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Well, now I know we're watching tonight because we need
a new so perfect and then Grayson Frankie, Yes, Okay,
Brooklyn you're the best.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Thanks girl, Thank.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
You all so much. Thank you give me a town.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You can't even hear it. I watched the reaction. She
can't even hear it.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
The towel. The towel makes me cri cra.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You're the best girl.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Whatever, whatever you need. All right, y'all, Thanks for the time.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
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