December 18, 2025 • 18 mins
RHOC Jenn Pedranti and her Fiance Ryan are setting the record straight on how they navigated their feelings when they initially met while Jenn was married.
Plus, the couple spills on wedding plans and which cast members would be invited to their big day.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hi, guys, it is your celebrity mentor, Jen Fessler, and
guess what I am bringing back my dear friend Jen
Pedantry and Ryan from Housewives of Orange County. Let's dive
back into our convo with them. So give me a
couple tips guys for people going through divorce or separation
right now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know, I'll give you a little bit of a
nugget that I don't think anyone on the show knows,
and I don't think it's made its way onto the
show about Jen nine jenas don't know what I'm going
to say here. I applaud Jen, and I'll speak through
my limits. I was not faithful in my marriage and
there was infidelity the minute Jen. This is really cool
(00:54):
and makes me emotional. The minute Jen and I went past, Hi,
how are you nice to meet you?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You know what Jen did? She went home and told
her husband, Yeah, yeah, there was no like.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We held hands first, we kissed first, we had sex first,
and she got caught.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's what you would think by.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Watching the show Jen, where's the scarlet letter A? But
none of that is what happened. Their marriage was three
years failed. At this point, I would say, you know,
just hanging on because of situational COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I was scared and I had kids, and so
when I when I knew this man, was like, I
just looked forward to a conversation that I knew I
shouldn't look forward to, right, I'm like, why am I
excited to run into him at the gym? Why do
I love like texting with him? I am looking forward
to this. I remember I went home and I just
told Will like I told him about Ryan. He's like,
(01:47):
who is this guy? I'm like, I don't know, Like
I really don't know, but something is waking up and
something is so wrong here.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, yeah, I get that. Well, two things first, Jennifer,
I don't see any scarlet letter anywhere near you, So
let's get there's a scarlet letter on you. There's a
scarletletter on pretty much all of us. Okay, So that's
the first thing. But the second thing is, Ryan, would
you suggest that as a tip to tell people that
are going through Yes, we share that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, I mean that realistic though.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You wouldn't have said that at forty. But where I
sit today with what my kids have had to experience,
and you know, I can't blame their mom at the
time for using that against me, and Will has done
that again to an extent, so I could have avoided that.
I can help protect my kids.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Have to say before even if you're thinking outside the box,
you're saying be a bigger person. Yes, have the hard
conversation because it makes the road way less Monty.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it does it Just not only that, not only
for the sake of the process that a divorce takes
from separation to divorce, but there's so much the emotional
draggage and baggage that you get along the way. Where
Jen was able to what I would say, do it
the right way, mine was probably the more instinctive just
(03:11):
do it and face the consequences later. And looking back now,
I just wish I was a more stand up guy.
I knew I wasn't happy in the relationship. I knew
it wasn't long term. We had tried therapy, counseling. At
the end of the day, and like I started with,
it was still on me and I wish I would
have been a better partner, a better father, a better
(03:31):
human being, and I expected more of myself so today.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Would be different, because doing what you want to do
and apologizing later is very painful, even whenever it's ending.
So you're saying your advice to men, I'm assuming or
I guess women too, is if you're going down the
path and you think there's something else out there to
have the hard conversation, first, let that person respectfully know
and go before you selfishly fulfill.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, Yes, but before all of that, I'd say, turn
over every stone at home. And if you feel like
there is not another option and something else is peaking
your interest and or just playing the field is speaking
your interest, or not being married is peaking your interest,
take care of that step before the other door opens,
whatever that door looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, no, I think that's great advice. I think that
our listeners probably do know this because not all of them,
but a lot of them are have been through divorce,
and not just divorce. A lot of our listeners have
been widowed but divorced. They say, is you leave, you
finally get divorced when you can't do anything else where
the money doesn't matter, and not that the kids don't matter,
(04:39):
but you know there is no other alternative here, Like,
you can't live like this anymore because divorce is hard, right, Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I always say something, Jen, I'm what nine years divorce now,
I know my ex Heather still has emotional scarring and
emotional pain. Even though I would say our marriage was
like done, how would you not? That's why, if you
asked me, the number one reason why I do it
different is that I've still left some carnage emotionally, some
(05:11):
baggage for her that ten years later, to a level
one out of ten or a level two or twenty
out of ten, she still carries all because of my
selfish actions or my inability to be face my own
conflict and be an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So that's why I would change it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There's a multitude of other reasons beneath that, but to
know I can look back and say, Heather and I
are nine years divorced, and I know she still has
pain for the way it ended, because of the way
I chose to do it. That is the reason why.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I change it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And listen, Jen, with as admirable as it is that
you went to Will and said this is what's going
on with me, and listen, there's so many many things
about you that I find admirable. I'm sure he has
some scarring. I mean, it's still early on and.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So when I went to Will and I said, I
got to tell you something, and I told him about
this guy named Ryan at the gin. Will did this
thing where he would kind of laugh at me, and
he did it. He laughed, and I remember thinking, like,
that's funny to you, Like I'm actually telling you something
that should be like you should be on the grip
(06:17):
you love me, Like what are you telling me right now?
And then it just it was validating for me, Jen,
because from that point on, it wasn't even about Will
and I he wanted to. It was all just about
who he was. So you know, I tried, I kind
of did the right thing, kind of didn't. I still
did what I wanted to do. I will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Do you have any tips specifically, Jen, besides so anything
that you would suggest to I would just.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Say, for people going through a divorce, what are my tips?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Just one? If you can stay friends and co parent,
it's the best thing for the kids because the one
person that the people that lose out and divorce, like
Will and I are better off, but are kids lost out?
So I would do anything to co parent. And I
think if I could give any tips or advice for
anybody going through a divorce, put yourself a side, and
do the best you can to co parent for your kids.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I mean, I think that is everything. I think that
one of the reasons Jeff and I will be able
were able to get back together is because for both
of us with our kids. Like there's one specific time,
remember my daughter called me. I was in the car.
I think I feel like I've told this on the
on the pod before, but she called me and she
was complaining about Jeff and daddy, you know, for whatever
it was. And I was like, honey, you called the
(07:25):
wrong number. I have no interest in like hearing you
be disrespectful about your father and so sorry, and you
know he was great about that as well. And I
would that if you have kids, to me, that is
such great advice.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That great advice, And even if you don't want.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
To because you know, hate your ex's guts, it comes
back to you because you see your kids happier and
healthier and all of that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, I agree with that. Jen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
All right, so quick, some some specifics you guys that
I have to ask you know that. So you don't
have a date yet at all? Do we have any idea?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, I'm dying. We were at Bravo Klan Bravo Kan,
and everybody is like, when are you getting married? When
you're getting married day two of Bravo Kan, everybody was
coming up. I'm so excited about March. I can't wait
for March. And I'm like, what is happening in March?
He goes, I'm so sick of being asked about the date.
I'm just telling everybody it's March, okay, Ryan, so apparently Mark, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But in all seriousness, you guys, don't you seem casual
about the actual Like you're together, there's no doubt that
you have committed to each other.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Which a lot of getting married for the kids. True,
I mean, we want to be married, but we're home.
We're in this home together with all of our children.
We're doing life together. But I just want my kids
and his kids to know, like my step parents are
together and it's not just some like, hey, mom and
I maybe moving in six months if something happens with
her and Ryan. So we've been saying Jen like we
(08:54):
need all these kids around, and we're finding like it's impossible.
I like literally cannot get a time with Dawson and
Thes and the two boys graduating college.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And your job possibly in Georgia, going across the country
for We're going to figure it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Out, and I promise, I'm sorry, excuse me, where are
you going? You have a job George Joyed Housewives of Atlanta.
No no, no, no, no, my oldest, my oldest, you said,
in your job in Georgia. I'm like, what I'm missing?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, no, no no. But when we know, we obviously, Jen,
we will, you will know for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah. M a couple more specifics and you can choose
to answer or not. But I have to ask questions.
Do you guys believe in prenups?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah? We do, we do. I won't ever be in
the position I've been left in, and I'm just grateful
that Ryan sees that for what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And so.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
We we actually talked about it very openly, very often.
I mean not very often, but when we're when we're like,
we if we're going to get married, we need to
get these things in place, and we talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Listen, I was we didn't have a prenup. I was,
you know, I was young, but I would only tell
you know, people our age, especially on part two, get
that in writing it not because you're not going to
be together forever. It's just I feel like it's.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Just what he says.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Sometimes I'm the female and I'm like, but what are
you saying? He' said, Oh my god, stop, I'm not
saying that. But we are going to be smart about this.
I think women is different to somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think we look at things as for me, this
is a dotting the ice crossing the t's. There's zero
emotion involved in it. For me, it's just a simple
function of finance finances, and those usually don't bring emotional side.
I think for you, that's where we differ. Right, it
brings when Jen here's prena specific get that. It makes
(10:49):
her say, are you is there a plan to the end,
because then why would we be talking about this? And
I say that now you've added an element that we're
just simply talking about a legal document, that's it. And
then I give her this example.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm forty nine and I've had life.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Insurance for years, and I tell her what you should
be saying to me, do you plan on dying? I'd say, well, no,
not for thirty plus years, but I still have to
do the financial piece of the puzzle, right, So It's
like same thing with a prenup. Why are you doing
your prenup if you're not planning to get divorced? Well,
the same reason I get life insurance. I'm not planning
on dying tomorrow, you know, but I still have to
do the financial piece.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And I think you can structure a prenup so that
Jen you don't feel insecure about it. So, I mean,
because you've spoke, You've spoken very openly about finances, you know,
on the show, and I know that you are you
have struggled, and I'm not telling you both what to do,
but I think that prenups can be formatted so that,
you know, everyone feels more comfortable. Right. So that's that's
(11:48):
just my two cents. But I get how you would
feel that way. I just would tell all of my friends,
no matter what the differences were in terms of finances
to people going in, we're too old.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Opinion to deal with.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That answer is yes, we believe in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, So now, just some cheesy questions that I
can't help myself. Also asking, so if the wedding is March,
who from the cast is invited?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, obviously if we did it on the show, I
think i'd have to have everybody. I mean, the only
person I ever sit in a weird spot with, unfortunately,
is Tamra. It's I haven't talked to Katie so long
that I don't know how. Actually Katie reached out to
me after Bravo con to you, she did. She texted
me after Bravo Kan and just said, you know what,
(12:32):
I thought we would connect at Bravo Khan and I
would like to get together and talk. And I can
see at some point Katie and I possibly needing a conversation.
I've known Tama so long that I neither at this
spot Jen where I'm really ready to have that conversation
where both of us are going to show up and
be very brutally honest about what the hell has happened
(12:56):
within this friendship or just loving her from afar and
that being fun. So who would come to the wedding
if it was just Ryan and I on our own
Right now, I'd say everybody but Tamra and Katie. And
that's not a isolate them, that's just because I don't
have a relationship with them, right.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I get it. Listen, You're gonna
I am I am thinking that you're going to have
to resolve things because you're going to be working together
again soon. But don't comment on that, not not looking
for anything about that, about those specifics. That is my guess.
So funny and this is off subject, but being at
(13:34):
Bravacon now and getting to know, you know, women from
other franchises and just liking them, like, you know, I
got to know Katie a little bit. Tam and I
have been friends for so long, and it's so it's
it's not that sticky because I feel like people are
we're grown ups and we understand that and loving you
so much and you know, but it's it's weird because
you see what goes down on the show and you
(13:56):
love your friends and you hate to see it, but
you do sort of develop these other relationships they go,
you know, in and out and but whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's what I love about women like you, Jen, because
I don't. I could walk into a room and see you,
Katie and Tamar all at a table together and I'm
not like, oh gosh, is Jen going to change the
way she feels about me? Because I know You're not
that kind of ever, and you know what, I would
still sit here today and say, I'm so happy that
you have a friendship with Tamar and Katie because guess what,
(14:27):
I saw the best of Katie for almost two years.
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I know you did.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Heartedly, and I would tell you before I was ever
on this show, I thought Tamar and Eddie were like
one of the best couples I ever knew. And so
you're seeing a side of these women that I saw,
and how could you not be drawn to them?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So I also I also see the show and I see,
you know, everybody and what goes down, and women can
be mean, and I see the awful things that happen.
And that's not just I'm not just talking about Tamaron Katie.
I'm talking about all the franchises, all the women. So
you know, you're watching that and you see a friend
of yours get hurt and you're not, you know, immune
to that. But yeah, I'm not on the show. So
(15:09):
I do see the really good, sweet, warm sides when
I'm with these people now. And again, I'm not just
talking about Tammer and Katie anyway, That's not what this
is about. This is about, uh part two, your part two.
I really am happy for you, guys. I really hope
that you get to show more of this and it's
so it's so impressive and heartwarming, and I mean that truly.
(15:30):
You know, I don't feel like everybody, you know, it's
everything is salacious on the show. And that's why I
was a viewer of you know, since the beginning, because
I love this. Can't help it, just do right. It's
like I I watched every Every Housewives episode on every franchise,
you know, forever. But I just think that this is
(15:50):
so it just hasn't been shown, showcased, and it's special.
That's that's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, it's interesting from my side. You know, Jeff Pessler
knows this.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, the men and Jeff's different, right because your guys
show the men are more involved and engaged. For us,
we're like an ancillary piece in the back and should
stay that way. I learned my lesson we should see
in the back.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Say it's a bummer because we'll still get comments of, oh,
he's gonna this, Jen, Jen, be careful, Jen, watch out
for Ryan. It's like we've been together five years, seven kids,
we all live under one roof, going on year three.
We're the sole financial emotional support system for Jen's five kids. Yeah,
(16:39):
so it's you know, it's it's some It's funny because
the commentary comes in like we're a brand new relationship
and Jen be be careful, there's red flags.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yet we're you know, nearing year six.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, all of us integrated.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We look at each other saying like I should. So
it's a bummer selfishly.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That I should get more love. Though now I feel
like I.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Feel like.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The bummer that I think if they were to show
our real relationship.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think there's a lot more to offer on that
side than the you know, I think it's that they.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Don't show our real relationship. I think it's more fun
to show Ryan like trying to get me in a
bikini and slapping my ass whatever. You know, they don't
know that we're actually just very boring and on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Watching right right right right. I love you guys, Thank
you for doing this. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I hope we get a lot of listeners. I really do.
I mean we do, we do pretty well, but this
one is this is a good one. So I've had
like a few questions.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeh, next time, all right, remember what you wish, carefully
you wish.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, listen, you had this was not I don't think
this was like a walk in the park. I don't
think it was. You guys were very honest. So I
don't know how much harder it could be, but I'll
work on it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, just yeah, we're grate YEA love you okaye, thank.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
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Hi, guys, it is your celebrity mentor, Jen Fessler, and
guess what I am bringing back my dear friend Jen
Pedantry and Ryan from Housewives of Orange County. Let's dive
back into our convo with them. So give me a
couple tips guys for people going through divorce or separation
right now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know, I'll give you a little bit of a
nugget that I don't think anyone on the show knows,
and I don't think it's made its way onto the
show about Jen nine jenas don't know what I'm going
to say here. I applaud Jen, and I'll speak through
my limits. I was not faithful in my marriage and
there was infidelity the minute Jen. This is really cool
(00:54):
and makes me emotional. The minute Jen and I went past, Hi,
how are you nice to meet you?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You know what Jen did? She went home and told
her husband, Yeah, yeah, there was no like.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We held hands first, we kissed first, we had sex first,
and she got caught.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's what you would think by.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Watching the show Jen, where's the scarlet letter A? But
none of that is what happened. Their marriage was three
years failed. At this point, I would say, you know,
just hanging on because of situational COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I was scared and I had kids, and so
when I when I knew this man, was like, I
just looked forward to a conversation that I knew I
shouldn't look forward to, right, I'm like, why am I
excited to run into him at the gym? Why do
I love like texting with him? I am looking forward
to this. I remember I went home and I just
told Will like I told him about Ryan. He's like,
(01:47):
who is this guy? I'm like, I don't know, Like
I really don't know, but something is waking up and
something is so wrong here.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, yeah, I get that. Well, two things first, Jennifer,
I don't see any scarlet letter anywhere near you, So
let's get there's a scarlet letter on you. There's a
scarletletter on pretty much all of us. Okay, So that's
the first thing. But the second thing is, Ryan, would
you suggest that as a tip to tell people that
are going through Yes, we share that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, I mean that realistic though.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You wouldn't have said that at forty. But where I
sit today with what my kids have had to experience,
and you know, I can't blame their mom at the
time for using that against me, and Will has done
that again to an extent, so I could have avoided that.
I can help protect my kids.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Have to say before even if you're thinking outside the box,
you're saying be a bigger person. Yes, have the hard
conversation because it makes the road way less Monty.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it does it Just not only that, not only
for the sake of the process that a divorce takes
from separation to divorce, but there's so much the emotional
draggage and baggage that you get along the way. Where
Jen was able to what I would say, do it
the right way, mine was probably the more instinctive just
(03:11):
do it and face the consequences later. And looking back now,
I just wish I was a more stand up guy.
I knew I wasn't happy in the relationship. I knew
it wasn't long term. We had tried therapy, counseling. At
the end of the day, and like I started with,
it was still on me and I wish I would
have been a better partner, a better father, a better
(03:31):
human being, and I expected more of myself so today.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Would be different, because doing what you want to do
and apologizing later is very painful, even whenever it's ending.
So you're saying your advice to men, I'm assuming or
I guess women too, is if you're going down the
path and you think there's something else out there to
have the hard conversation, first, let that person respectfully know
and go before you selfishly fulfill.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, Yes, but before all of that, I'd say, turn
over every stone at home. And if you feel like
there is not another option and something else is peaking
your interest and or just playing the field is speaking
your interest, or not being married is peaking your interest,
take care of that step before the other door opens,
whatever that door looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, no, I think that's great advice. I think that
our listeners probably do know this because not all of them,
but a lot of them are have been through divorce,
and not just divorce. A lot of our listeners have
been widowed but divorced. They say, is you leave, you
finally get divorced when you can't do anything else where
the money doesn't matter, and not that the kids don't matter,
(04:39):
but you know there is no other alternative here, Like,
you can't live like this anymore because divorce is hard, right, Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I always say something, Jen, I'm what nine years divorce now,
I know my ex Heather still has emotional scarring and
emotional pain. Even though I would say our marriage was
like done, how would you not? That's why, if you
asked me, the number one reason why I do it
different is that I've still left some carnage emotionally, some
(05:11):
baggage for her that ten years later, to a level
one out of ten or a level two or twenty
out of ten, she still carries all because of my
selfish actions or my inability to be face my own
conflict and be an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So that's why I would change it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There's a multitude of other reasons beneath that, but to
know I can look back and say, Heather and I
are nine years divorced, and I know she still has
pain for the way it ended, because of the way
I chose to do it. That is the reason why.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I change it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And listen, Jen, with as admirable as it is that
you went to Will and said this is what's going
on with me, and listen, there's so many many things
about you that I find admirable. I'm sure he has
some scarring. I mean, it's still early on and.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So when I went to Will and I said, I
got to tell you something, and I told him about
this guy named Ryan at the gin. Will did this
thing where he would kind of laugh at me, and
he did it. He laughed, and I remember thinking, like,
that's funny to you, Like I'm actually telling you something
that should be like you should be on the grip
(06:17):
you love me, Like what are you telling me right now?
And then it just it was validating for me, Jen,
because from that point on, it wasn't even about Will
and I he wanted to. It was all just about
who he was. So you know, I tried, I kind
of did the right thing, kind of didn't. I still
did what I wanted to do. I will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Do you have any tips specifically, Jen, besides so anything
that you would suggest to I would just.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Say, for people going through a divorce, what are my tips?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Just one? If you can stay friends and co parent,
it's the best thing for the kids because the one
person that the people that lose out and divorce, like
Will and I are better off, but are kids lost out?
So I would do anything to co parent. And I
think if I could give any tips or advice for
anybody going through a divorce, put yourself a side, and
do the best you can to co parent for your kids.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I mean, I think that is everything. I think that
one of the reasons Jeff and I will be able
were able to get back together is because for both
of us with our kids. Like there's one specific time,
remember my daughter called me. I was in the car.
I think I feel like I've told this on the
on the pod before, but she called me and she
was complaining about Jeff and daddy, you know, for whatever
it was. And I was like, honey, you called the
(07:25):
wrong number. I have no interest in like hearing you
be disrespectful about your father and so sorry, and you
know he was great about that as well. And I
would that if you have kids, to me, that is
such great advice.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That great advice, And even if you don't want.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
To because you know, hate your ex's guts, it comes
back to you because you see your kids happier and
healthier and all of that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, I agree with that. Jen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
All right, so quick, some some specifics you guys that
I have to ask you know that. So you don't
have a date yet at all? Do we have any idea?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, I'm dying. We were at Bravo Klan Bravo Kan,
and everybody is like, when are you getting married? When
you're getting married day two of Bravo Kan, everybody was
coming up. I'm so excited about March. I can't wait
for March. And I'm like, what is happening in March?
He goes, I'm so sick of being asked about the date.
I'm just telling everybody it's March, okay, Ryan, so apparently Mark, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But in all seriousness, you guys, don't you seem casual
about the actual Like you're together, there's no doubt that
you have committed to each other.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Which a lot of getting married for the kids. True,
I mean, we want to be married, but we're home.
We're in this home together with all of our children.
We're doing life together. But I just want my kids
and his kids to know, like my step parents are
together and it's not just some like, hey, mom and
I maybe moving in six months if something happens with
her and Ryan. So we've been saying Jen like we
(08:54):
need all these kids around, and we're finding like it's impossible.
I like literally cannot get a time with Dawson and
Thes and the two boys graduating college.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And your job possibly in Georgia, going across the country
for We're going to figure it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Out, and I promise, I'm sorry, excuse me, where are
you going? You have a job George Joyed Housewives of Atlanta.
No no, no, no, no, my oldest, my oldest, you said,
in your job in Georgia. I'm like, what I'm missing?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, no, no no. But when we know, we obviously, Jen,
we will, you will know for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah. M a couple more specifics and you can choose
to answer or not. But I have to ask questions.
Do you guys believe in prenups?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah? We do, we do. I won't ever be in
the position I've been left in, and I'm just grateful
that Ryan sees that for what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And so.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
We we actually talked about it very openly, very often.
I mean not very often, but when we're when we're like,
we if we're going to get married, we need to
get these things in place, and we talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Listen, I was we didn't have a prenup. I was,
you know, I was young, but I would only tell
you know, people our age, especially on part two, get
that in writing it not because you're not going to
be together forever. It's just I feel like it's.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Just what he says.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Sometimes I'm the female and I'm like, but what are
you saying? He' said, Oh my god, stop, I'm not
saying that. But we are going to be smart about this.
I think women is different to somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think we look at things as for me, this
is a dotting the ice crossing the t's. There's zero
emotion involved in it. For me, it's just a simple
function of finance finances, and those usually don't bring emotional side.
I think for you, that's where we differ. Right, it
brings when Jen here's prena specific get that. It makes
(10:49):
her say, are you is there a plan to the end,
because then why would we be talking about this? And
I say that now you've added an element that we're
just simply talking about a legal document, that's it. And
then I give her this example.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm forty nine and I've had life.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Insurance for years, and I tell her what you should
be saying to me, do you plan on dying? I'd say, well, no,
not for thirty plus years, but I still have to
do the financial piece of the puzzle, right, So It's
like same thing with a prenup. Why are you doing
your prenup if you're not planning to get divorced? Well,
the same reason I get life insurance. I'm not planning
on dying tomorrow, you know, but I still have to
do the financial piece.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And I think you can structure a prenup so that
Jen you don't feel insecure about it. So, I mean,
because you've spoke, You've spoken very openly about finances, you know,
on the show, and I know that you are you
have struggled, and I'm not telling you both what to do,
but I think that prenups can be formatted so that,
you know, everyone feels more comfortable. Right. So that's that's
(11:48):
just my two cents. But I get how you would
feel that way. I just would tell all of my friends,
no matter what the differences were in terms of finances
to people going in, we're too old.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Opinion to deal with.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That answer is yes, we believe in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, So now, just some cheesy questions that I
can't help myself. Also asking, so if the wedding is March,
who from the cast is invited?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Well, obviously if we did it on the show, I
think i'd have to have everybody. I mean, the only
person I ever sit in a weird spot with, unfortunately,
is Tamra. It's I haven't talked to Katie so long
that I don't know how. Actually Katie reached out to
me after Bravo con to you, she did. She texted
me after Bravo Kan and just said, you know what,
(12:32):
I thought we would connect at Bravo Khan and I
would like to get together and talk. And I can
see at some point Katie and I possibly needing a conversation.
I've known Tama so long that I neither at this
spot Jen where I'm really ready to have that conversation
where both of us are going to show up and
be very brutally honest about what the hell has happened
(12:56):
within this friendship or just loving her from afar and
that being fun. So who would come to the wedding
if it was just Ryan and I on our own
Right now, I'd say everybody but Tamra and Katie. And
that's not a isolate them, that's just because I don't
have a relationship with them, right.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I get it. Listen, You're gonna
I am I am thinking that you're going to have
to resolve things because you're going to be working together
again soon. But don't comment on that, not not looking
for anything about that, about those specifics. That is my guess.
So funny and this is off subject, but being at
(13:34):
Bravacon now and getting to know, you know, women from
other franchises and just liking them, like, you know, I
got to know Katie a little bit. Tam and I
have been friends for so long, and it's so it's
it's not that sticky because I feel like people are
we're grown ups and we understand that and loving you
so much and you know, but it's it's weird because
you see what goes down on the show and you
(13:56):
love your friends and you hate to see it, but
you do sort of develop these other relationships they go,
you know, in and out and but whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's what I love about women like you, Jen, because
I don't. I could walk into a room and see you,
Katie and Tamar all at a table together and I'm
not like, oh gosh, is Jen going to change the
way she feels about me? Because I know You're not
that kind of ever, and you know what, I would
still sit here today and say, I'm so happy that
you have a friendship with Tamar and Katie because guess what,
(14:27):
I saw the best of Katie for almost two years.
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I know you did.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Heartedly, and I would tell you before I was ever
on this show, I thought Tamar and Eddie were like
one of the best couples I ever knew. And so
you're seeing a side of these women that I saw,
and how could you not be drawn to them?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So I also I also see the show and I see,
you know, everybody and what goes down, and women can
be mean, and I see the awful things that happen.
And that's not just I'm not just talking about Tamaron Katie.
I'm talking about all the franchises, all the women. So
you know, you're watching that and you see a friend
of yours get hurt and you're not, you know, immune
to that. But yeah, I'm not on the show. So
(15:09):
I do see the really good, sweet, warm sides when
I'm with these people now. And again, I'm not just
talking about Tammer and Katie anyway, That's not what this
is about. This is about, uh part two, your part two.
I really am happy for you, guys. I really hope
that you get to show more of this and it's
so it's so impressive and heartwarming, and I mean that truly.
(15:30):
You know, I don't feel like everybody, you know, it's
everything is salacious on the show. And that's why I
was a viewer of you know, since the beginning, because
I love this. Can't help it, just do right. It's
like I I watched every Every Housewives episode on every franchise,
you know, forever. But I just think that this is
(15:50):
so it just hasn't been shown, showcased, and it's special.
That's that's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, it's interesting from my side. You know, Jeff Pessler
knows this.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, the men and Jeff's different, right because your guys
show the men are more involved and engaged. For us,
we're like an ancillary piece in the back and should
stay that way. I learned my lesson we should see
in the back.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Say it's a bummer because we'll still get comments of, oh,
he's gonna this, Jen, Jen, be careful, Jen, watch out
for Ryan. It's like we've been together five years, seven kids,
we all live under one roof, going on year three.
We're the sole financial emotional support system for Jen's five kids. Yeah,
(16:39):
so it's you know, it's it's some It's funny because
the commentary comes in like we're a brand new relationship
and Jen be be careful, there's red flags.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yet we're you know, nearing year six.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, all of us integrated.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We look at each other saying like I should. So
it's a bummer selfishly.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That I should get more love. Though now I feel
like I.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Feel like.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The bummer that I think if they were to show
our real relationship.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I think there's a lot more to offer on that
side than the you know, I think it's that they.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Don't show our real relationship. I think it's more fun
to show Ryan like trying to get me in a
bikini and slapping my ass whatever. You know, they don't
know that we're actually just very boring and on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Watching right right right right. I love you guys, Thank
you for doing this. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I hope we get a lot of listeners. I really do.
I mean we do, we do pretty well, but this
one is this is a good one. So I've had
like a few questions.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeh, next time, all right, remember what you wish, carefully
you wish.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, listen, you had this was not I don't think
this was like a walk in the park. I don't
think it was. You guys were very honest. So I
don't know how much harder it could be, but I'll
work on it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, just yeah, we're grate YEA love you okaye, thank.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You, bye you guys, So thank you guys for being
so open. Chapter two is not always perfect, but you
guys are a great example that you can find love
after a difficult situation. Are you ready to find love
in your chapter two? Call us or email us. All
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