July 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Country singer Ashley Cooke is joins the Whine! She opens up to Jana about life on the road, break-ups, and relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so super excited about this guest today. Do
you know the last time I think I saw you
was on the airport.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, BNA afterwards and I think I just saw you
on my flight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was one of those things where it's like this
has happened before. It actually happened with Riley Green, like
about a month ago. He was on our plane to
LA but I'm so out of that world that I'm like,
I don't think people know who I am. So it's
like I didn't say anything to him. And then Laney
was also on the flight. But then I remember seeing.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You Lane and Riley plan l A.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Okays, She's like, is there any dirt?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Ear?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But it was one of those where I was like,
I feel like we made out of contact.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm like, ash, she wonder who I am. I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I was like, oh my god, wait. I was like,
that's definitely you, right, I love it. And I was like, Okay,
that was definitely you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Because like you're just to me, you just seem like
a girl who's just just.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Cool, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like you I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You work really hard.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I followed you on socials and I just like your
overall presence too.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And I witnessed it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I kind of watched how you were to your band
people and the person that you were with, and that
has I've seen other people in those situations and you
were so lovely and kind to them.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
My band is like absolutely my family on the road,
so yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I love that. We also have too many inside jokes
to count, so I.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Feel like in the airport, we're always trying to like
not say some messed up stuff like around other people,
so we try to keep it like PG and be normal.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So yeah, it can be hard living on the bus
with dudes, though.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I mean honestly not really though.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I feel like growing up, I always had really close
guy friends that I was always just around and hanging
out with, so it never really it never really struck
me as weird, Like even now my day to day.
Emily was always on the road with us, and that
was like the main girl on the road with us
all the time, and now it's me and the guys
because she came off the road, and it just doesn't
feel weird. I think, I mean, you get it obviously
growing up with music and being on the road too,
(02:03):
Like they just become your family and they're all married
and like you singing around girls all the time, and
so it's just kind of like the vibe.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know the vibe. And you're out with three guys
right now on tour. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, Lee Brice, Dustin Lynch, yeah, Learbys.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And Parker McCollum both.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We start tour in the next couple of months, and
then Dustin and I are doing some festivals together, which
will be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I freaking love it all of those times, they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We just got off tour with Kane Brown a little
bit ago, and then Jordan Davis before that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You've had all the good ones, the great ones. I
don't know if there's any bad dudes in country, but
like you've really you have like a very this is
a solid roster for you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Like Brian was before that. Like there, it's just we've
been out with really great people. But I also think
in country you really can't get to a place of
success without being a good person. So I think that
the majority of people that are successful where they're at
it's because they are good people.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, let's talk about your roster. Go ros Oh boy,
we don't care about your CMT or am. Want to
know your body count? That's the new term.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I've hundred I know you talked about this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
On the UVS. I've learned, like what all that's like?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Apparently body count means now people have sex with us.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But you didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, I'm waiting, are you studying?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Wait, you guys don't know the body count meant back
in the day, be like how many people did you
have sex?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What's your number?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You asked their body count? That's like a that's like
a that's like been around for a long time though.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Okay, well all right, I'm like a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I don't know, like maybe, I mean I've known about
that since like I started having.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Text So I'm like, and gentlemen, she's not a virgin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh god, here we go, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Have Okay, it ain't your it ain't your place?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah whatever?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, yep?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Uh is there? Who have you talked about that guy?
I know you've talked about like the story the story
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I followed it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah too, Is this the same guy from a because
something else just happened on your story a minute ago.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Two there was a breakup.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, there was a breakup. I have not been to
you this recent guy. Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He's wonderful and incredible, and do we know him? Maybe
he's not an artist or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Have you ever dated an artist?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I have?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Uh, that's what your place is about.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh do we know that person?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We know that probably definitely, he definitely knows. We even'n
talked about it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But yeah he's married now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh good hap be for him? Uh huh m hm, Okay,
I want to ask a question. I know. I'm like, oh,
I don't think so, okay, if not he's not on tour.
It is also hard to because I know that balance
of like listen, it is what made these stories. But
also you don't even want to like give lighter energy
(04:59):
to the pe.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's what I'm saying, because he cheated on me and.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I had a feeling when you gets married Now, I
was like, yeah, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I'm like, you know, by all means, there was definitely
a time that I wanted to air it all out
and didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
How'd you catch him? Which I about cheating a lot
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh have you guys been cheated on too?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My ex husband?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh god, I like that act a lot?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh he was, yeah, like how many times?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Ashly?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Actually this podcast is about the same the same people
or was it different?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Different loads?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
My god, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
There's a couple of books available if you're interested in that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I'm just hearing a place to start where yeah,
where you like, how did you find out? And then
how did you feel when it happen, because a lot
of times I'm like, oh, what did I do? That
was just always my mind frame, but then it's now
obviously shifted.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Honestly, So when I first started dating him, this was
the guy that you were closest about. When I firstarted
dating him, it was one of those things where I
knew the red flags going into it, and I just
kind of convinced myself that it was different and I
could change him and whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And I think we all do that just naturally.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And I've always been somebody in relationships where I feel
like I try to be a fixer, Like I'm like, okay,
well I see the best the best in them. I
want to, you know, want to believe the good and
what they have to offer. And so they dated for
like about a year, okay, And I knew his ex
girlfriend before that, and she.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Had warned me about him, but I was just warnings.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, and I was just like, you know, I I
just it's different. It's different. It's different. You know, you're
you're young, and you believe things and whatever. And so
we started dating. And there was a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Of red flags while we were dating, but I just
I loved him, so I chose to stick it out.
And I was on the road playing a show in
New Orleans, like gosh, probably two.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Years ago, three years ago now, and I came off.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It was like an interesting show, like a lot of
weird stuff happened during the show, and I was already
kind of just like a weird day. And I went
back to the green room afterwards to a screenshot of
a picture of him making out with a girl on
Broadway and he had dropped off at airport that morning,
so like very much just one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then there was another girl who was.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Hooking up with him at the same time, and somebody
that was kind of involved with the industry as well,
and one of my friends, we you know, hung out
and he told me, Hey, I think that this girl
is hooking up with your boyfriend. And I was like huh,
and yeah, it was just this crazy thing and I
ended up on the phone with her. We became friends
through it. Now we're friends. Like it just kind of
(07:23):
happened that way. But yeah, men.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Will, they'll say some things and they'll do some things.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Boys usually And where where was like what was it
for you in that place?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Like where did you go to first? Was it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Known?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Because I did know?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, you know, like I like I knew that that
was what was going to happen. Like he that's just
what he did before. But I hope for his sake
that he has you know, grown up. He is married now,
and so I'm just.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like, you know, how many years ago as that so
we broke up since they got married, since.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You guys broke up?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Gosh, when did your place come up? Was that twenty
twenty three three? I think probably around that time frame,
like right before that? So yeah, I mean we haven't
spoken since we broke up. He obviously knows the songs
about him and honestly, thank you for sucking because.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
The song.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Number one song.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And but yeah, That's what I love about country music, though,
is because it's real. It's it's real, it's authentic. It's
even the you know, the the songs about the trucks
and all, it's it's all.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's all very real.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Thing too, is when I when I was writing the
song and putting it out to your point, like wasting
the energy. I didn't want to spend all this time
talking about this guy that just you know, wasn't clearly
was struggling with his own stuff and mental health and
things that he needed to work through. And so now,
of course it's it's my story and I'll always tell it,
but I genuinely completely hope that he is happy and
changed his ways and he's making some girl really happy.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, are you dating anyone right now?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm not. I went through a breakup in October.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So what is the red flag? What are some of
the red flags that you'll go, Okay, I'm not going
to stand for that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's a good question. I think when people aren't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Intentional about no you like, I think that when you
hang out with somebody and it feels like they're just
in their own world the whole time, and don't ask
coople questions about you and what you're thinking and how
you're feeling. I think that's a red flag for me
because it kind of is like narcissism and you can
just tell. And that's where a lot of that stuff
stems from the cheating world.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And all of that. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm still
kind of trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's a pretty wise perspective for someone your age, and
not that you're super young, but I definitely didn't have
that at twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I think the guy that I was with and you know,
broke up with back in October, it was one of
those relationships where I'd been through a lot of really
shitty relationships like the one I just talked about, and
I didn't really know what it was like to be
loved by somebody so wonderful and so kind and so
intentional and he's incredible. It was just one of those
things that we just there were some things that needed
to be fixed and didn't want to settle for something
(09:45):
and he still very much wants to be together.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But what was it for you?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Then?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
It was he too nice? Because that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's like, you've been with a bunch of shitty guys,
like you said, and then here's this great guy.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I mean he's wonderful. I think that's what's hard.
And I think why I we're both in this place
of what's going on, because it works great.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think it's just one of those things where he's
a little older than me, and I think he still
needs to figure out some stuff with like his life,
you know, and what he wants to do and who
he wants to be. And I'm pretty set in who
I am and my career and you know, a lot
of those things. And I think he just needs to
figure that out. And yeah, it wasn't that I wasn't
willing to stick it out with him and figure it
out with him. I think it was just, yeah, we
(10:25):
just we just needed some time apart.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
If a new guy came in but he had cheated before,
would you stay with him?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Would you date him?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, it's a great question, knowing your past with these people.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think it depends.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Probably won't talk all about relationship, so honestly.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm here for it. I feel like a lot of
a lot of my life right now is that I
don't know. I mean, I think I it depends. I
think the guy that I was with before that cheated before.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
There were like immediate red flag signs that I should
have just known right away. And I think that if
I were to talk to somebody new that had cheated
before and they showed those signs, I'd be out and heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But if they really people.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I mean, people do stupid they you know, Yeah, not
that that's an excuse for it, but people mess up,
they do things, and sometimes it's for different reasons. And
the reasons my ex did it were because he was
just chronically unhappy with himself right first.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If it was somebody who.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Was in a tough spot and weird situation and things
just happened that way and it was like complicated. We
kind of weren't together, but we kind of were, And
there's like a lot of a lot of gray in
those situations. Yeah, would you now you're you're.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Married, and now I'm married, But a wonderful, wonderful man,
I that that would be really hard for me to
given my history with my ex. Now again, I have
cheated in my past, not on my marriage, but when
I was dating back in my twenties, I definitely did
not proudly, not like yeah, just honest. It's just you know,
(11:52):
I was, you know, on the road and you know, living.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Meeting people and doing your things.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and you know I wasn't honest with myself. I
wasn't true to myself all those things. In a marriage, no,
absolutely not. But with you know my ax, I just
I I would really struggle with that. And I I
was kind of talking to someone post divorce and he
had and it's like, I just it's tough.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I just want to die. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I guess coming from a place where you have
done that before, like you know that you're a great
person to your heart and like why you were in
that moment, So I think that's I've never cheated before.
So I think for me, it's like do I get why? No,
If I wanted to cheat on somebody, I would just
call them and be like, yo, we're done.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, That's what I always wish I could. It was
always like I know, it was always like the day
after I'd call and say that, like why can't I
do it the day of?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's a little proactive, like it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
To me, it's like, yes, moments are impactful and powerful,
but I just always have been like, Hey, if I'm
into this person enough to want to hug up with them
while I have a relationship like who, this will be
something further than just like a one night thing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Do you think it's because of your fixing nature that
you're ending up in these relationships like you said that
you've had, yeah, relationships.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Is that that is?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Or is it something from childhood Ashley? That's like this
is a piece that it's.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I mean in therapist like I've been talking about all
this too, and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I think what is little Ashley saying? I love it? Ashley,
She's a wise one. She made you so.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I think a lot of it
For a long time was like that was where I
found my worth in it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I found my power in it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Like I was like, all right, well they need me
because they're a trainmack, so I need to kind of
like be a part of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's like when things are great and healthy and wonderful,
I'm kind of like, what the what is there?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Like I'm a Gemini Enneagram seven, So I feel like
I'm always like needing stimulation and something to do and
something to keep me occupied and do all of that.
So I think when when somebody's needing help, I just
want to step in and nurture. Mix nurture, yeah, yeah,
which I think is just also like a lot of women,
that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, it is what we do best. I believe it's.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The nature of it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, so tell me what the dream like. I just
I am just really proud of you.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I feel like you write really powerful things. Is is
writing in our artistry? Which is your favorite? Is my
first question? These are lighter topics for just a moment. Yeah,
I'd probably be back in a second with some more.
I feel like it's get real because I do. I
feel like you're such a powerful writer.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thank you. I love writing. I've always mean I can
tell me I was a writer first.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But I think where are you from?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's always a hard question because I've moved around a
lot growing up.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Where were you born?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I was born in Wisconsin, okay, moved to California, then Florida,
than DC for a second, than Nashville.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Okay, we kind of But you came here to write first, yes,
got it.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Came here when I was thirteen with my sister. We
were in a duo together for a long time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh what was it called?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, we had two different names. First it was Jenny
and Ashley. We did like a lot of like Nickelodeon,
like Disney feels like that. Yeah, and then we went
from that to it's called the Lockett's Cute. It was
like a play on the you know, Annie, the movie. Yeah,
it was a play on like her lock Its.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We loved the Lockett's like the movie so much. So, Yeah,
we did that for a long time, moved to town
for that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then who's your favorite to write with? Right with?
Right now? Because you know, there's just there is some
magic that happens in writing rooms too. I mean, Jane
is a writer too, married to a writer, So I
wanted a writer to no, no, I'm married to him.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh my gosh. I was like, wait what.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I love Alan writing. He has beautiful handwriting. He does
love it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I love it right now. One of my all time
favorite co writers is Emily wise Band.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
She's just excellent, greatest friend and also just I feel
like so much of my project that's coming out soon,
it's it's just like unique and raw and cool, like
even just talking to y'all, like I feel like it's
just like balls get down, like you just hang out
and talk.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And yeah, she's not superpowers. Yeah, she's very much just broad,
real and cool and has.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
A different way to say things genius.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah she's pointing.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And so I think when we'd get together, I always
have kind of like off the wall random ideas and
she just knows how to make sense of them.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So is little Ashley living her dream now? Or is
there a greater dream than this? Because I think anybody
that can pay their bills with country music is already
succeeded in a certain way. Like we're talking about that
a lot in our house, Like we're living in a
house music built. That's a rarity. One hundred people have
moved here since we started this conversation, and we'll move
back in a year because they didn't make it here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And you're doing it, and you're doing it well, but
you're working really hard. I mean, sister, I don't know
that when you're off the road or not on because
you're I'm really Brett Young, Joe Jonas, I know I'm
forgetting somebody else, Roman Alexander, I mean, I mean everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's been crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I think the last about Brantley Gilbert. We want to
circle back to X relationships.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
This would be a great point to do. Forgot, it's
not just about your best here at mine down we're
equal opportunity passing, right.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't know what happened with that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
By the way, we just weren't with the right people. Yep,
you know. She still says he's a wonderful human. He's wonderful.
He's like one of the nicest dudes. And you know
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I was not in the best place, makes sense, And
he was meant for his beautiful wife, and I was
meant to be the life that I was living.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
No, so I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, that's so much. That's a very mature response.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
She I'm ma, sure and re routing, Okay, but I
mean that though, like Joe, I know, she's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Of course, I loved y'all song like He's incredible. Yeah,
so much.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just feel like you're living so much of what
I would consider to be your dream if I was
looking in so I'm wondering where is this, Like, do
we have Taylor's swift momentum in our brains?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I mean I think that's always the goal. And
I think it's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Honestly, the last couple of months, I've had a hard
time with this because I think when you're starting out
as an artist, the goal is to go play stadiums, right,
It's like that's like the goal.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Why not shoot for it? Why not go for it?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you don't have that as your end goal, it's
kind of like, what's the point I even trying. I mean,
that's at least my mentality of it, like go for
go for the gold, and if you settle for silver,
then that's amazing still, you know, but I.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Think I mean turning twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I turned twenty eight June twelfth, so I like just
turned twenty eight, and I was like, oh, I want
to like have kids someday and I want to do
all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And I feel like you can't have stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Level momentum and a matter of a couple of years,
Like and I want to have kids in my early
thirties is kind of my goal?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like what am I? What's the plan here?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And so I think, you know, I'm such a one
track minded driven manifest it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do it get in there? Like work?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Like to your point, I really haven't stopped since like
twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, I can tell, yeah, like I'm just I mean,
even if you just pull up your iTunes, you can
tell you haven't stopped.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, it's just been NonStop.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And even like last year, my family went through a
lot of stuff with like health world and like my
dad had cancer for the fifth time, my mom had
a heart attack, my sister had that word issues, like
a lot, a lot, We lost both of my grandma's,
Like a lot happened in a year, and I still
was just like, go go go, go, go on their own
tour doing all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, it's therapy in itself sometimes too to be busy.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And to keep your mind off of it, for sure, But.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Avoidance therapy, I don't know, TBD.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's very avoidable.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I've been there. That's the only reason. Yeah, Big Machine
and I had a really like tumultuous relationship because it
was good for me because I could just they liked
me to work and I.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like to work.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, I just gonna get busy and put my bland.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Did you so when did you kind of eventually stop
doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
When I had a baby down.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You have a different world. Well, let me and let
me just say this too. So when I was got
the boy was at the top of charts one ACM
new Female, Well all the same, you know, all the
stuff I had Jolie like literally on the bus, crib
on there everything. I had the moment where I was like,
I don't want it bad enough because I started as
an actress.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I fell into the music. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I loved it. I was so happy for it. You
have a different like, this is your life. You will
make it work, you know, just as Carrie Underwood did.
And yes, you might slow down, you might say no
to things, but you're going to honor yourself. And if
you can take your baby, yeah, you know on the
road too. It's the whole thing. But I just think
that when you want it, you can have it all.
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I really do believe that. Like I'm a big believer.
I just remember looking at it going I don't want
this like this right, you know, I want to have moments,
but I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Think it's hard to because to your point, I think
I look at people like for Asion, like Rayln killing it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm like, she has a baby, she's killing it. There's
so many artists that there stud be there exactly like.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
People that are killing it, I think, and I don't
know them well enough to know their mentality. I think
for me, I've just always been such a head down
go like what's my goal?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What am I doing? What's the plan here?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And I think that when I do have kids, I
want to be the kind of mom that puts them first.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Obviously, and you will, right, But then it's the reason
I had to say no to a few That shit
shows that perspective. But it's like if you look at
you know, I look at people like lindsay Olt they
she's so busy all the time. But it's like you
might miss out on things too in that you know,
and I think you can. I think you can do both.
You just might have to say no to a few,
you know, radio things or whatever it is. I also
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want to speak into taking the pressure off your clock,
like I'm an old mom.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah I had a kid at forty forty.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah I had my last one at forty one, my
first one at thirty four.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Why do we do that? Like why do we care about?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I really want to When I was thirty one, I
was like, oh my god, I have to have baby now.
I ignored every red flag him cheating on me before.
I remember being at a show with it was Joe Nichols.
I was like, I just got cheated on a boy
my boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
What did I do?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
A couple of months later get back with them? Because
I'm like, well, I'm almost thirty or I mean I'm
thirty and then I'm gonna be thirty one, and.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Well that's what even like the guy I was talking
about that we just broke up recently, Like, I think
a lot of my he's wonderful, He's literally incredible, and
I think a lot of we.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Just don't think we're done with him.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I just can tell.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I think we are. I think we are though at
the end of the day, okay, because you kind of
have to be until I feel like you're in your
own way with him. Maybe, but I think it's because
he's not. I also love Gemini so much that I'm like.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
We're always indecisive, and that's the problem when.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know, I know, also that could just be history too,
that's fair, fair, wonder but.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think that's so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think too is a lot of you know, I
turned twenty six and twenty wait, yeah, twenty six and
twenty seven dating him. I think both of those years,
because when you sign a record deal, I mean I
sign my record deal when I was what twenty three?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I want to say?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And so I was just been I've been like head down, grind, grind, grind,
grinine since then. And so I think I just all
of a sudden looked up and was like, wait, I'm
twenty seven, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What am I doing? Is this the person for me?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Just you start to compile all of these fears. I
think I started doing that and that's why I was like,
I need a break. Yeah, maybe he's my first one.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, it's alsoday to not know right now.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And I think more than anything, we just need we
need like a minute, Yeah, the group, see other people,
do our thing, see what else is out there?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah. Also, I just want you to know you have
plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Why does it not feel like that?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't like it because there's something about that twenty
twenty seven to thirty clock that makes us feel like
we're running out of time.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Terrifying.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And also then you look at you know, I'm not
a very competitive person with other people, but you look
at people like I don't know Sabrina carbon or Tate
McCrae and grated different genres, but like they're what like
twenty two twenty one like killing it, like playing arenas,
and you're like, damn, that's so sick. And then you
start to think, okay, well wait, I'm not wait what's
am I too?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Behind?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Like what you start to do that and it's like
the stupidest game ever because different genres, every artist, every
creative is so different, has their own path that I
truly believe that, not even just like sugarcoating it, but
I think you start to get in your head a
little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, let's talk about competition, because that was one of
my one of my things with it, sorry, because on
the country radio charts, it is so limited when it
comes to females. And I mean I remember going, all right,
there's there's like a slaughter too for one of us, know,
but it's it's ridiculous because women aren't they the main
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audience for country mus Yes? And I remember a radio
program would be like, well, women want to listen to men.
I was like, I listened, I love nineties women.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Data? Yeah? Men? Right, I'm sure what.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But it was interesting because when I was in it,
and again I'm not trying to create like girl drama,
I really am not, but there was such this like
we're all friends, but I'm like, behind the scenes, I
was like nobody was friends. There was all this like competition.
People that were even doing songs together really truly hated
each other. And so I'm just curious where the where
it is now because again I'm so out of like
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the game of things that I don't know. Like I
I remember hearing kind of like comments here if someone
doesn't get nominated for this or this person's playing an arena,
but is there It's not I don't want to say jealousy,
but is there that competition?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's like there was it? What was it?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Megan Maroney and Ella Langley some like the un followed
because of maybe Riley Green, Like I was kind of
reading that on us weekly. I'm like, oh boy, Like
and if it's in a sleek we we know but
should know better. But I just am curious, like where
do you go in it? Or you're like, I'm out
of this whole. How does it affect you when you
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see people that are on kind of your same level
maybe playing Yeah, these arenas and stadiums. It's a great
question because I know how it would. I mean, if
I didn't, would heart like affect me. I'd get jealous
of it. I'd be like, damn it, I want that.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I mean, yeah, I think it's easy. I mean, just
being fully, fully transparent. I think it's really easy to go, well, damn,
I want that. And maybe I should spend a story
of some kind to make somebody talk and make things,
you know, And I think it's just it's natural to
want to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I think in terms of the competition thing, I don't
really feel that much from like honestly, I will say
people like Kelsey Ballerini and Carly Peters have really set
the tone for a lot of US females in this
next era where they genuinely are not bols, like they
are nice people, like genuinely, because I when I first
started coming on see in this whole thing, I was like,
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all right, well, maybe like I've heard the rumors, I
know the stories, I know people, you know, I know
that that was how that world was, you know, whatever
that time period was.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But as far as like my experience with it, I
think there are what five slots for nominations. Yeah, so
naturally in the time of awards, we all kind of
get a little like.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What's happening here, what's going there? And we need to
all compete with each other.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But I think the girls like Carly and Kelsey, they
grew up also in that same time period of everybody
hating each other, and so I think and then we've
all talked about it, I think they're like, hey, we
don't want to do that. We don't want to talk.
We don't want to hate each other. Like we are
here for you, we are all we all get it.
We're gonna have those moments where we all go I
want what she has, but like, let's not be nasty
(26:44):
to each other.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's all actually be nice to each other.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's odd. That's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, it just was not your experience, No, but that's
how it should be.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I mean maybe that's words that are said but
not actually meant. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But as far as my experience with it, and also
I've stayed as far away from the drama of it
all as I possibly can, and maybe that's maybe that's
a bad thing. Maybe if I were to be more
involved with it, my music would be doing better, Like
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Maybe, And if we had drama, if we were throwing
chairs off of buildings, like, do we sell better? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And I think it's a natural, natural thought just because
of kind of the way that TikTok and Instagram and
all these like kind of click baity things are happening
right now. But who am I to judge somebody for
a real situation that's happening and how they're dealing with
it and it happening to benefit their music career? Who
am I to judge that? I don't I don't want
my team and I've talked a lot about this. I
just really don't. It wouldn't be me to create a
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story for the sake of, you know, getting people to
talk about a certain song or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's just not me. It's just not me. And that's
that's okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I think if if anything like that were to happen,
it would have to be like truly truly real. And
I think a lot of these situations that are happening
that we're seeing maybe probably are real and that are
real yeah, And that's what I'm saying is like I'm
not going to you know, confirm it, deny what I
know or don't know, but I think, like regardless, I
think if it works for your career and it's real,
then what happened?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know? Yeah, I think it's interesting because my perspective
of you, so you hit number one right when I
went into my baby bubble and had my third baby.
So I knew of you just by like charts and
all the things, but I didn't know no of you.
And what I know of you now two years in
to me knowing of you is that you aren't the
(28:27):
drama girl. And that's why I am mildly obsessed with
your career going well, because I like that there can
be headlines swirling. But while headlines are swirling, your nose
is down and you're writing great songs and you're being
an artist and you're hustling, and you're not sleeping and
you're potentially breaking up with the wrong guy we don't know,
but because you're working so hard, that's the focus. And
(28:48):
I just think that, you know, Jan and I are
raising daughters now, and Taylor Swift is a very big
deal in our house. Kelsey Ballerini is a very big
deal in our house. Talented and both extremely people, very
good people. And I want the Ashley Cooks of the
world to dominate that for our daughters and for our world.
And I want your voice to be louder than everybody else.
(29:10):
And I don't want you to have to throw chairs
or punches or that's the.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Tough part, dude. Yeah, I think it really is.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And I've talked to a lot of friends about this, Like,
you know, like Caitlin Brown and I are really great friends,
and we've talked a lot about this, and she's incredible,
and we've all kind of you know, Kaitlin and I
were just chatting about this a little bit and it's like.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Should I, like, do I do? Do I make a
note headline? Do I do something like? That's just not me?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And she goes, Ashley, you already have a really incredible
fan base that buys your tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You're building it slowly.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're doing what you don't need to do if you
were to do something for the sake of a headline
to make somebody, you know, all of a sudden, TikTok
goes viral with this thing, and this song happens to
be involved. Like, if you were to do that, the
core fan base that you have, you might sell more
tickets with new people that would just go in here
to the next thing that's popping up, But your fan
base would be like, that's not that's not our Ashley,
(29:57):
that's not who they know. And so yeah, I mean
it's it's tough. I want to be in my head
against a wall constantly about this because I'm like, all right, well,
I feel.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like I should no do Some things are one of
the wordy and you know, worse, if you want to
be clickbaity, you know, get an awesome dance going up
on TikTok TikTok, you know what I mean? All those things,
But when it comes to headlines and that nature, there's
so many negative people that will just out then twist
your life in circles. And it's you know, I anytime
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I ever see a headline, I hate I hate it,
you know what I mean, because there's always going to
be an opinion about it. So just as long as
like she said, like you're you're you, you continue to
be who you are, and that is that it's going
to be longevity and you're going to have respect.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And the person telling me that is the Browns. I mean,
Kane Brown is selling out stadiums and he's he's not
having all these things going on or this, that and
the other, like his wonderful all these people they're not
having all these negative or not negative but well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean honiacious.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I think a lot of people have the mentality of like, well,
if it's negative, people are still talking.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
It's like it's almost like the things that you do
that get people to have positive or negative opinions, and
it's the things that people have both about that become
the bigger situations. So I think, you know, I've always
been told and I really appreciate it. Throughout the industry.
Whenever people talk about me, it's always like, oh my god,
we love her. She's she's so great and she's so
nice and she's so talented, and I'm like, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But then it's like, it.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Isn't that that clickbaity story everybody's talking thing, And that's okay.
I think that's my thing is everybody's different, everybody's convict
them of different things. But I think for me, if
I were to do something that felt not me for
the sake of having a song go big or whatever
it is. I don't think I could sleep good at night.
I think I would struggle a lot with that. To know,
and not saying anybody else is doing that either. I
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just think it's like.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, let's get you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Let's get you a headline, girl. Okay, what country artists?
WoT you date?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh god, let's get you.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
A headline right now?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Oh god, let's do f Okay, country artists, single males go?
If you want your headline here it is single country males.
No one.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Do you want the married? No? So okay, you toss
in low cash and let's just make this a double one.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I mean, I will say too, like I feel like
my type is not typically other artists.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Right, it's just really well done. I think that's really brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, So what's not?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
More?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Sports players are actors? I don't know. I mean, did
you didn't you do a song with Joe Jonas? Did
is he in a relationship? I can which one would
you date? Joe Jonahs?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh god, I mean he's cute, that's he says.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, yeah, he's cute.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I will say, we will say Joah, I was more
of a net girl growing up.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Okay, which one's the marriage? Trying to get Kevin?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We're just trying here. No, I don't know. I mean yeah,
I think was there chemistry? Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Aoh he's great. I like, did you kiss Joe Jonah?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh my god, I'm not going forward? Oh, I like
where this is staring.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Meanwhile is all of the management.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
He's a great partner.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We call him Preston, and we have three babies. Oh
my gosh, I don't know that it's like a chance.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Honestly, I will say this, since October, this is the
first time that I have like been on dates.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like I've been pretty much in relationships. You No, I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I don't want to go on und it's not great
this person.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I meet it. I'm meeting a lot of pigeon, but
like I meet it, I just care about that stuff.
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
And that's maybe like stupid to say, but I really don't. Like, No,
it's not stupid, like full transparency. I feel like, so, yeah,
since October.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Whatever happened in your body, go at that. I like,
we let it all out, let's see.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Okay, So I've pretty much been a serial dater since
I was like fourteen. Like I've literally been in and
out of relationships since I was fourteen, Like I've not stopped.
I've really never been single. And so when we broke
up in October, I was like, all right, I'm gonna
be single. Went on dates, like had a really good
time that a lot of people, different types of people,
people that had yachts or whatever, and I just the
people that I connect with the most of the ones
that we just have like a unique, like soul full
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connection and that's great.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But like, I don't know my type. Does that makes sense?
I can tell you, like what I look at somebody
like you're hot.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But like so right now we're having like hot girl summer,
trying to figure out what Ashley likes.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Correct, Yeah, I love that kind of all over this
is there a dream dude? Like you know, growing up
for us, like Matthew McConaughey was my guy, who's yours.
He's not anymore by the way, he's married and lovely
and I am that's not a thing, but growing up
we all liked him. How to lose a in ten days,
I mean like still to be attainable. Yeah, and actually preferred.
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If it's not, maybe it is after you say it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I mean, like when Powell's cute.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Okay, I like that, I do, Glenn. I wonder if
he's If it's not Sydney, then I'm here for Ashley.
If it is Sydney, I'm here for Ashley. Lenny's he
is cute. He's really cute. He's funny. Oh, you guys
would be real cute together.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Never met him?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh heyn wondering when and Ashley? I I love that.
So Glenn, if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
He seems like a real nice, normal dude.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He really does.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
But I feel like he's also like the heart throb
of the generation right now.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
So you are too, and you kind of you know,
you got like a little bit of a Sydney like eyes,
you know what I mean, Like you've got the blonde.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, you're naturally really pretty, thank you. I know you're talented,
but I don't know, I think we're not. Probably this
is in the body count thing, the we're not supposed
to chail that are pretty anymore. I think it's like
the thing, right, but you just are and you're not
a made up person, which I like to all Right,
So Glenn Powell.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Have you ever Ashley Powell tried it on DAMS. I
don't know if he does. Do you've never done it?
Hold on, Okay, here's all I do it right now.
My whole life have always.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Been like, oh my god, I'm scared you're gonna decide
to Glenn Powell's DAMS do it?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, good lord, I'm a good wing wing person right now,
Glenn Powell should also get a garbage.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You gonna say, Glenn.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, but if I meet him an event soon and
he's gonna be like, you're.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Weird white, he's probably weird too. It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Goanna say you're the class.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I will see ye your name? We need like a
vote him up. Okay, hey Glenn, I'm sure that's exactly
how I'll read it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hey Glenn, Hey, Glenn podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Your name came up.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm just saying cute, Yes, yeah, I'm going to have
you press.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm scared what if this is just okayed, good good
at shooting my shot? That's just not I want you
to you need to get.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
You going to tell you you're sitting you're sitting between
your sandwich in this.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Little youth college friends. But there we go.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
We're we are in our forties and all the things
we would have done them different at your age, and
so much I don't regret, but so many things that
I'm like, I wish I just would have had the
confidence to just do different things because and.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I did your shot, your shot, live your dream, shoot
for the stars.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
One. Don't you give up?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
You know what I'm saying, Like, obviously we've like literally
the one life too short. Shoot your shots, girlfriend, Yeah,
shoot for the you know, shoot for it all is
you can. You can literally do it all. And you
know what's the worst that can happen? He doesn't respond, Okay, yeah,
that is a good point.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What's going to happen is like he reads it, doesn't respond.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Only we don't event together, And I'm like, Hi, Cret's a.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Great story, because I think we're never going to get
me all right, Actually, dude, the hell you are.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Tell us everything that's coming out, give us your give
us a whole spiel.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
For my second album coming out, and that's I haven't
announced once it's coming out yet. I know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I was trying to look up where the hell you are.
I was like, I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, what comes out on Friday this Friday, which is super,
super exciting, And I just feels like a different era.
I think, even just like what we talked about today,
I think a lot of a lot of my first
record was a lot of like chasing what I wanted
to be a hit and a lot of sense, which
is just natural for your first record. But this one
feels a little more. I fought for what I wanted
in the rooms, and I was really intentional about what
(38:52):
I wanted to say, how I wanted to write, the
things that I wanted to do, And I think I'm
just kind of coming into my sureness a little more
of you know, being I'm a surveyor big time. Like
I love to survey, I love to ask opinions. I
love to I'm very indecisive, which is why I have
a hard time shooting my shot because I'm always just like,
what do I want?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't know, like I just it's always all over
the place.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
And I think with this next album, with all this
stuff with my family this past year that I told
you he was about, and in general, I just feel
like a little more of like a raw honesty era.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, a little more blunt and.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Trying to figure out exactly what it is that I
want and speaking in my mind when my gut feels right,
because that's kind.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Of rare me.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Women, We always have to listen to our gut because
our gut knows and our gut tells us everything.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And again, I mean, look at freaking Taylor and Travis.
Travis like he shot his shock.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He shot his shot, you know what I mean? Yeah,
how did that go? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Did he asn't really tickets or something?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Bracelet he gave his number. Yeah, so it's like he's
sho he shot it and he scored, you know what
I mean. Like Preston Brust did the same. Yeah, Alan,
like you know, he shot his shot too. They all scored,
so they did.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Do you guys think there's something about women shooting their
shot versus man shooting their shot?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No? No, I do think that men need to be
the ones to be like, oh, I want you to
go after you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think they need the effort level. But I don't
think I think either right ones don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Maybe it's like a maturity level thing and if they don't,
if they don't like it, then that means that.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's not the right one.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, so we'll see, Glenn.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It is operate playing the operating and I, which will
be super fun. I guess, like my sixth or.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Seventh time playing the Incredible Naire though.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It's so much fun. And I get to actually play
that song The Hell You Are for the first time tonight. Yeah,
the first time ever.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
We're playing it out.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's incredible. Actually, thank you for coming on the show.
You You are welcome anytime.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Guys on the couches for wine in a little chat.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bye girls, Bye,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so super excited about this guest today. Do
you know the last time I think I saw you
was on the airport.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, BNA afterwards and I think I just saw you
on my flight. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was one of those things where it's like this
has happened before. It actually happened with Riley Green, like
about a month ago. He was on our plane to
LA but I'm so out of that world that I'm like,
I don't think people know who I am. So it's
like I didn't say anything to him. And then Laney
was also on the flight. But then I remember seeing.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You Lane and Riley plan l A.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Okays, She's like, is there any dirt?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Ear?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But it was one of those where I was like,
I feel like we made out of contact.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm like, ash, she wonder who I am. I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I was like, oh my god, wait. I was like,
that's definitely you, right, I love it. And I was like, Okay,
that was definitely you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Because like you're just to me, you just seem like
a girl who's just just.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Cool, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like you I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You work really hard.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I followed you on socials and I just like your
overall presence too.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And I witnessed it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I kind of watched how you were to your band
people and the person that you were with, and that
has I've seen other people in those situations and you
were so lovely and kind to them.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
My band is like absolutely my family on the road,
so yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I love that. We also have too many inside jokes
to count, so I.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Feel like in the airport, we're always trying to like
not say some messed up stuff like around other people,
so we try to keep it like PG and be normal.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So yeah, it can be hard living on the bus
with dudes, though.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I mean honestly not really though.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I feel like growing up, I always had really close
guy friends that I was always just around and hanging
out with, so it never really it never really struck
me as weird, Like even now my day to day.
Emily was always on the road with us, and that
was like the main girl on the road with us
all the time, and now it's me and the guys
because she came off the road, and it just doesn't
feel weird. I think, I mean, you get it obviously
growing up with music and being on the road too,
(02:03):
Like they just become your family and they're all married
and like you singing around girls all the time, and
so it's just kind of like the vibe.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know the vibe. And you're out with three guys
right now on tour. Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, Lee Brice, Dustin Lynch, yeah, Learbys.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And Parker McCollum both.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We start tour in the next couple of months, and
then Dustin and I are doing some festivals together, which
will be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I freaking love it all of those times, they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We just got off tour with Kane Brown a little
bit ago, and then Jordan Davis before that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You've had all the good ones, the great ones. I
don't know if there's any bad dudes in country, but
like you've really you have like a very this is
a solid roster for you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Like Brian was before that. Like there, it's just we've
been out with really great people. But I also think
in country you really can't get to a place of
success without being a good person. So I think that
the majority of people that are successful where they're at
it's because they are good people.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, let's talk about your roster. Go ros Oh boy,
we don't care about your CMT or am. Want to
know your body count? That's the new term.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I've hundred I know you talked about this.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
On the UVS. I've learned, like what all that's like?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Apparently body count means now people have sex with us.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But you didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, I'm waiting, are you studying?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Wait, you guys don't know the body count meant back
in the day, be like how many people did you
have sex?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What's your number?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You asked their body count? That's like a that's like
a that's like been around for a long time though.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Okay, well all right, I'm like a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I don't know, like maybe, I mean I've known about
that since like I started having.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Text So I'm like, and gentlemen, she's not a virgin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh god, here we go, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Have Okay, it ain't your it ain't your place?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah whatever?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, yep?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Uh is there? Who have you talked about that guy?
I know you've talked about like the story the story
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I followed it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah too, Is this the same guy from a because
something else just happened on your story a minute ago.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Two there was a breakup.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, there was a breakup. I have not been to
you this recent guy. Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He's wonderful and incredible, and do we know him? Maybe
he's not an artist or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Have you ever dated an artist?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I have?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Uh, that's what your place is about.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh do we know that person?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We know that probably definitely, he definitely knows. We even'n
talked about it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But yeah he's married now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh good hap be for him? Uh huh m hm, Okay,
I want to ask a question. I know. I'm like, oh,
I don't think so, okay, if not he's not on tour.
It is also hard to because I know that balance
of like listen, it is what made these stories. But
also you don't even want to like give lighter energy
(04:59):
to the pe.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's what I'm saying, because he cheated on me and.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I had a feeling when you gets married Now, I
was like, yeah, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I'm like, you know, by all means, there was definitely
a time that I wanted to air it all out
and didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
How'd you catch him? Which I about cheating a lot
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh have you guys been cheated on too?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My ex husband?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh god, I like that act a lot?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh he was, yeah, like how many times?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Ashly?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Actually this podcast is about the same the same people
or was it different?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Different loads?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
My god, dude.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
There's a couple of books available if you're interested in that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I'm just hearing a place to start where yeah,
where you like, how did you find out? And then
how did you feel when it happen, because a lot
of times I'm like, oh, what did I do? That
was just always my mind frame, but then it's now
obviously shifted.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Honestly, So when I first started dating him, this was
the guy that you were closest about. When I firstarted
dating him, it was one of those things where I
knew the red flags going into it, and I just
kind of convinced myself that it was different and I
could change him and whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And I think we all do that just naturally.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And I've always been somebody in relationships where I feel
like I try to be a fixer, Like I'm like, okay,
well I see the best the best in them. I
want to, you know, want to believe the good and
what they have to offer. And so they dated for
like about a year, okay, And I knew his ex
girlfriend before that, and she.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Had warned me about him, but I was just warnings.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, and I was just like, you know, I I
just it's different. It's different. It's different. You know, you're
you're young, and you believe things and whatever. And so
we started dating. And there was a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Of red flags while we were dating, but I just
I loved him, so I chose to stick it out.
And I was on the road playing a show in
New Orleans, like gosh, probably two.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Years ago, three years ago now, and I came off.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It was like an interesting show, like a lot of
weird stuff happened during the show, and I was already
kind of just like a weird day. And I went
back to the green room afterwards to a screenshot of
a picture of him making out with a girl on
Broadway and he had dropped off at airport that morning,
so like very much just one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then there was another girl who was.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Hooking up with him at the same time, and somebody
that was kind of involved with the industry as well,
and one of my friends, we you know, hung out
and he told me, Hey, I think that this girl
is hooking up with your boyfriend. And I was like huh,
and yeah, it was just this crazy thing and I
ended up on the phone with her. We became friends
through it. Now we're friends. Like it just kind of
(07:23):
happened that way. But yeah, men.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Will, they'll say some things and they'll do some things.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Boys usually And where where was like what was it
for you in that place?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Like where did you go to first? Was it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Known?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Because I did know?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, you know, like I like I knew that that
was what was going to happen. Like he that's just
what he did before. But I hope for his sake
that he has you know, grown up. He is married now,
and so I'm just.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like, you know, how many years ago as that so
we broke up since they got married, since.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You guys broke up?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Gosh, when did your place come up? Was that twenty
twenty three three? I think probably around that time frame,
like right before that? So yeah, I mean we haven't
spoken since we broke up. He obviously knows the songs
about him and honestly, thank you for sucking because.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
The song.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Number one song.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And but yeah, That's what I love about country music, though,
is because it's real. It's it's real, it's authentic. It's
even the you know, the the songs about the trucks
and all, it's it's all.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's all very real.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Thing too, is when I when I was writing the
song and putting it out to your point, like wasting
the energy. I didn't want to spend all this time
talking about this guy that just you know, wasn't clearly
was struggling with his own stuff and mental health and
things that he needed to work through. And so now,
of course it's it's my story and I'll always tell it,
but I genuinely completely hope that he is happy and
changed his ways and he's making some girl really happy.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, are you dating anyone right now?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm not. I went through a breakup in October.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So what is the red flag? What are some of
the red flags that you'll go, Okay, I'm not going
to stand for that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's a good question. I think when people aren't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Intentional about no you like, I think that when you
hang out with somebody and it feels like they're just
in their own world the whole time, and don't ask
coople questions about you and what you're thinking and how
you're feeling. I think that's a red flag for me
because it kind of is like narcissism and you can
just tell. And that's where a lot of that stuff
stems from the cheating world.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And all of that. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm still
kind of trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's a pretty wise perspective for someone your age, and
not that you're super young, but I definitely didn't have
that at twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I think the guy that I was with and you know,
broke up with back in October, it was one of
those relationships where I'd been through a lot of really
shitty relationships like the one I just talked about, and
I didn't really know what it was like to be
loved by somebody so wonderful and so kind and so
intentional and he's incredible. It was just one of those
things that we just there were some things that needed
to be fixed and didn't want to settle for something
(09:45):
and he still very much wants to be together.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But what was it for you?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Then?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
It was he too nice? Because that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's like, you've been with a bunch of shitty guys,
like you said, and then here's this great guy.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I mean he's wonderful. I think that's what's hard.
And I think why I we're both in this place
of what's going on, because it works great.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think it's just one of those things where he's
a little older than me, and I think he still
needs to figure out some stuff with like his life,
you know, and what he wants to do and who
he wants to be. And I'm pretty set in who
I am and my career and you know, a lot
of those things. And I think he just needs to
figure that out. And yeah, it wasn't that I wasn't
willing to stick it out with him and figure it
out with him. I think it was just, yeah, we
(10:25):
just we just needed some time apart.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
If a new guy came in but he had cheated before,
would you stay with him?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Would you date him?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh, it's a great question, knowing your past with these people.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think it depends.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Probably won't talk all about relationship, so honestly.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm here for it. I feel like a lot of
a lot of my life right now is that I
don't know. I mean, I think I it depends. I
think the guy that I was with before that cheated before.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
There were like immediate red flag signs that I should
have just known right away. And I think that if
I were to talk to somebody new that had cheated
before and they showed those signs, I'd be out and heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But if they really people.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I mean, people do stupid they you know, Yeah, not
that that's an excuse for it, but people mess up,
they do things, and sometimes it's for different reasons. And
the reasons my ex did it were because he was
just chronically unhappy with himself right first.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If it was somebody who.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Was in a tough spot and weird situation and things
just happened that way and it was like complicated. We
kind of weren't together, but we kind of were, And
there's like a lot of a lot of gray in
those situations. Yeah, would you now you're you're.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Married, and now I'm married, But a wonderful, wonderful man,
I that that would be really hard for me to
given my history with my ex. Now again, I have
cheated in my past, not on my marriage, but when
I was dating back in my twenties, I definitely did
not proudly, not like yeah, just honest. It's just you know,
(11:52):
I was, you know, on the road and you know, living.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Meeting people and doing your things.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and you know I wasn't honest with myself. I
wasn't true to myself all those things. In a marriage, no,
absolutely not. But with you know my ax, I just
I I would really struggle with that. And I I
was kind of talking to someone post divorce and he
had and it's like, I just it's tough.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I just want to die. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I guess coming from a place where you have
done that before, like you know that you're a great
person to your heart and like why you were in
that moment, So I think that's I've never cheated before.
So I think for me, it's like do I get why? No,
If I wanted to cheat on somebody, I would just
call them and be like, yo, we're done.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, That's what I always wish I could. It was
always like I know, it was always like the day
after I'd call and say that, like why can't I
do it the day of?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's a little proactive, like it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
To me, it's like, yes, moments are impactful and powerful,
but I just always have been like, Hey, if I'm
into this person enough to want to hug up with them
while I have a relationship like who, this will be
something further than just like a one night thing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Do you think it's because of your fixing nature that
you're ending up in these relationships like you said that
you've had, yeah, relationships.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Is that that is?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Or is it something from childhood Ashley? That's like this
is a piece that it's.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I mean in therapist like I've been talking about all
this too, and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I think what is little Ashley saying? I love it? Ashley,
She's a wise one. She made you so.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I think a lot of it
For a long time was like that was where I
found my worth in it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I found my power in it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Like I was like, all right, well they need me
because they're a trainmack, so I need to kind of
like be a part of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's like when things are great and healthy and wonderful,
I'm kind of like, what the what is there?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Like I'm a Gemini Enneagram seven, So I feel like
I'm always like needing stimulation and something to do and
something to keep me occupied and do all of that.
So I think when when somebody's needing help, I just
want to step in and nurture. Mix nurture, yeah, yeah,
which I think is just also like a lot of women,
that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, it is what we do best. I believe it's.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The nature of it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, so tell me what the dream like. I just
I am just really proud of you.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I feel like you write really powerful things. Is is
writing in our artistry? Which is your favorite? Is my
first question? These are lighter topics for just a moment. Yeah,
I'd probably be back in a second with some more.
I feel like it's get real because I do. I
feel like you're such a powerful writer.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thank you. I love writing. I've always mean I can
tell me I was a writer first.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But I think where are you from?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's always a hard question because I've moved around a
lot growing up.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Where were you born?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I was born in Wisconsin, okay, moved to California, then Florida,
than DC for a second, than Nashville.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Okay, we kind of But you came here to write first, yes,
got it.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Came here when I was thirteen with my sister. We
were in a duo together for a long time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh what was it called?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, we had two different names. First it was Jenny
and Ashley. We did like a lot of like Nickelodeon,
like Disney feels like that. Yeah, and then we went
from that to it's called the Lockett's Cute. It was
like a play on the you know, Annie, the movie. Yeah,
it was a play on like her lock Its.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We loved the Lockett's like the movie so much. So, Yeah,
we did that for a long time, moved to town
for that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then who's your favorite to write with? Right with?
Right now? Because you know, there's just there is some
magic that happens in writing rooms too. I mean, Jane
is a writer too, married to a writer, So I
wanted a writer to no, no, I'm married to him.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh my gosh. I was like, wait what.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I love Alan writing. He has beautiful handwriting. He does
love it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I love it right now. One of my all time
favorite co writers is Emily wise Band.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love her.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
She's just excellent, greatest friend and also just I feel
like so much of my project that's coming out soon,
it's it's just like unique and raw and cool, like
even just talking to y'all, like I feel like it's
just like balls get down, like you just hang out
and talk.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And yeah, she's not superpowers. Yeah, she's very much just broad,
real and cool and has.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
A different way to say things genius.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah she's pointing.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And so I think when we'd get together, I always
have kind of like off the wall random ideas and
she just knows how to make sense of them.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So is little Ashley living her dream now? Or is
there a greater dream than this? Because I think anybody
that can pay their bills with country music is already
succeeded in a certain way. Like we're talking about that
a lot in our house, Like we're living in a
house music built. That's a rarity. One hundred people have
moved here since we started this conversation, and we'll move
back in a year because they didn't make it here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And you're doing it, and you're doing it well, but
you're working really hard. I mean, sister, I don't know
that when you're off the road or not on because
you're I'm really Brett Young, Joe Jonas, I know I'm
forgetting somebody else, Roman Alexander, I mean, I mean everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's been crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I think the last about Brantley Gilbert. We want to
circle back to X relationships.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
This would be a great point to do. Forgot, it's
not just about your best here at mine down we're
equal opportunity passing, right.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I don't know what happened with that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
By the way, we just weren't with the right people. Yep,
you know. She still says he's a wonderful human. He's wonderful.
He's like one of the nicest dudes. And you know
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I was not in the best place, makes sense, And
he was meant for his beautiful wife, and I was
meant to be the life that I was living.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
No, so I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, that's so much. That's a very mature response.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
She I'm ma, sure and re routing, Okay, but I
mean that though, like Joe, I know, she's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Of course, I loved y'all song like He's incredible. Yeah,
so much.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just feel like you're living so much of what
I would consider to be your dream if I was
looking in so I'm wondering where is this, Like, do
we have Taylor's swift momentum in our brains?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I mean I think that's always the goal. And
I think it's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Honestly, the last couple of months, I've had a hard
time with this because I think when you're starting out
as an artist, the goal is to go play stadiums, right,
It's like that's like the goal.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Why not shoot for it? Why not go for it?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
If you don't have that as your end goal, it's
kind of like, what's the point I even trying. I mean,
that's at least my mentality of it, like go for
go for the gold, and if you settle for silver,
then that's amazing still, you know, but I.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Think I mean turning twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I turned twenty eight June twelfth, so I like just
turned twenty eight, and I was like, oh, I want
to like have kids someday and I want to do
all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And I feel like you can't have stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Level momentum and a matter of a couple of years,
Like and I want to have kids in my early
thirties is kind of my goal?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like what am I? What's the plan here?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And so I think, you know, I'm such a one
track minded driven manifest it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do it get in there? Like work?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Like to your point, I really haven't stopped since like
twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, I can tell, yeah, like I'm just I mean,
even if you just pull up your iTunes, you can
tell you haven't stopped.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, it's just been NonStop.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And even like last year, my family went through a
lot of stuff with like health world and like my
dad had cancer for the fifth time, my mom had
a heart attack, my sister had that word issues, like
a lot, a lot, We lost both of my grandma's,
Like a lot happened in a year, and I still
was just like, go go go, go, go on their own
tour doing all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, it's therapy in itself sometimes too to be busy.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And to keep your mind off of it, for sure, But.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Avoidance therapy, I don't know, TBD.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's very avoidable.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I've been there. That's the only reason. Yeah, Big Machine
and I had a really like tumultuous relationship because it
was good for me because I could just they liked
me to work and I.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like to work.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, I just gonna get busy and put my bland.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Did you so when did you kind of eventually stop
doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
When I had a baby down.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You have a different world. Well, let me and let
me just say this too. So when I was got
the boy was at the top of charts one ACM
new Female, Well all the same, you know, all the
stuff I had Jolie like literally on the bus, crib
on there everything. I had the moment where I was like,
I don't want it bad enough because I started as
an actress.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I fell into the music. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I loved it. I was so happy for it. You
have a different like, this is your life. You will
make it work, you know, just as Carrie Underwood did.
And yes, you might slow down, you might say no
to things, but you're going to honor yourself. And if
you can take your baby, yeah, you know on the
road too. It's the whole thing. But I just think
that when you want it, you can have it all.
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I really do believe that. Like I'm a big believer.
I just remember looking at it going I don't want
this like this right, you know, I want to have moments,
but I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Think it's hard to because to your point, I think
I look at people like for Asion, like Rayln killing it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm like, she has a baby, she's killing it. There's
so many artists that there stud be there exactly like.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
People that are killing it, I think, and I don't
know them well enough to know their mentality. I think
for me, I've just always been such a head down
go like what's my goal?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What am I doing? What's the plan here?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And I think that when I do have kids, I
want to be the kind of mom that puts them first.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Obviously, and you will, right, But then it's the reason
I had to say no to a few That shit
shows that perspective. But it's like if you look at
you know, I look at people like lindsay Olt they
she's so busy all the time. But it's like you
might miss out on things too in that you know,
and I think you can. I think you can do both.
You just might have to say no to a few,
you know, radio things or whatever it is. I also
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want to speak into taking the pressure off your clock,
like I'm an old mom.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah I had a kid at forty forty.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah I had my last one at forty one, my
first one at thirty four.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Why do we do that? Like why do we care about?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I really want to When I was thirty one, I
was like, oh my god, I have to have baby now.
I ignored every red flag him cheating on me before.
I remember being at a show with it was Joe Nichols.
I was like, I just got cheated on a boy
my boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
What did I do?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
A couple of months later get back with them? Because
I'm like, well, I'm almost thirty or I mean I'm
thirty and then I'm gonna be thirty one, and.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Well that's what even like the guy I was talking
about that we just broke up recently, Like, I think
a lot of my he's wonderful, He's literally incredible, and
I think a lot of we.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Just don't think we're done with him.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I just can tell.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I think we are. I think we are though at
the end of the day, okay, because you kind of
have to be until I feel like you're in your
own way with him. Maybe, but I think it's because
he's not. I also love Gemini so much that I'm like.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
We're always indecisive, and that's the problem when.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know, I know, also that could just be history too,
that's fair, fair, wonder but.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think that's so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think too is a lot of you know, I
turned twenty six and twenty wait, yeah, twenty six and
twenty seven dating him. I think both of those years,
because when you sign a record deal, I mean I
sign my record deal when I was what twenty three?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I want to say?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And so I was just been I've been like head down, grind, grind, grind,
grinine since then. And so I think I just all
of a sudden looked up and was like, wait, I'm
twenty seven, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What am I doing? Is this the person for me?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Just you start to compile all of these fears. I
think I started doing that and that's why I was like,
I need a break. Yeah, maybe he's my first one.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, it's alsoday to not know right now.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And I think more than anything, we just need we
need like a minute, Yeah, the group, see other people,
do our thing, see what else is out there?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah. Also, I just want you to know you have
plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Why does it not feel like that?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't like it because there's something about that twenty
twenty seven to thirty clock that makes us feel like
we're running out of time.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Terrifying.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And also then you look at you know, I'm not
a very competitive person with other people, but you look
at people like I don't know Sabrina carbon or Tate
McCrae and grated different genres, but like they're what like
twenty two twenty one like killing it, like playing arenas,
and you're like, damn, that's so sick. And then you
start to think, okay, well wait, I'm not wait what's
am I too?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Behind?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Like what you start to do that and it's like
the stupidest game ever because different genres, every artist, every
creative is so different, has their own path that I
truly believe that, not even just like sugarcoating it, but
I think you start to get in your head a
little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, let's talk about competition, because that was one of
my one of my things with it, sorry, because on
the country radio charts, it is so limited when it
comes to females. And I mean I remember going, all right,
there's there's like a slaughter too for one of us, know,
but it's it's ridiculous because women aren't they the main
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audience for country mus Yes? And I remember a radio
program would be like, well, women want to listen to men.
I was like, I listened, I love nineties women.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Data? Yeah? Men? Right, I'm sure what.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But it was interesting because when I was in it,
and again I'm not trying to create like girl drama,
I really am not, but there was such this like
we're all friends, but I'm like, behind the scenes, I
was like nobody was friends. There was all this like competition.
People that were even doing songs together really truly hated
each other. And so I'm just curious where the where
it is now because again I'm so out of like
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the game of things that I don't know. Like I
I remember hearing kind of like comments here if someone
doesn't get nominated for this or this person's playing an arena,
but is there It's not I don't want to say jealousy,
but is there that competition?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's like there was it? What was it?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Megan Maroney and Ella Langley some like the un followed
because of maybe Riley Green, Like I was kind of
reading that on us weekly. I'm like, oh boy, Like
and if it's in a sleek we we know but
should know better. But I just am curious, like where
do you go in it? Or you're like, I'm out
of this whole. How does it affect you when you
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see people that are on kind of your same level
maybe playing Yeah, these arenas and stadiums. It's a great
question because I know how it would. I mean, if
I didn't, would heart like affect me. I'd get jealous
of it. I'd be like, damn it, I want that.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I mean, yeah, I think it's easy. I mean, just
being fully, fully transparent. I think it's really easy to go, well, damn,
I want that. And maybe I should spend a story
of some kind to make somebody talk and make things,
you know, And I think it's just it's natural to
want to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I think in terms of the competition thing, I don't
really feel that much from like honestly, I will say
people like Kelsey Ballerini and Carly Peters have really set
the tone for a lot of US females in this
next era where they genuinely are not bols, like they
are nice people, like genuinely, because I when I first
started coming on see in this whole thing, I was like,
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all right, well, maybe like I've heard the rumors, I
know the stories, I know people, you know, I know
that that was how that world was, you know, whatever
that time period was.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But as far as like my experience with it, I
think there are what five slots for nominations. Yeah, so
naturally in the time of awards, we all kind of
get a little like.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What's happening here, what's going there? And we need to
all compete with each other.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But I think the girls like Carly and Kelsey, they
grew up also in that same time period of everybody
hating each other, and so I think and then we've
all talked about it, I think they're like, hey, we
don't want to do that. We don't want to talk.
We don't want to hate each other. Like we are
here for you, we are all we all get it.
We're gonna have those moments where we all go I
want what she has, but like, let's not be nasty
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to each other.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's all actually be nice to each other.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's odd. That's how it should be.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, it just was not your experience, No, but that's
how it should be.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I mean maybe that's words that are said but
not actually meant. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But as far as my experience with it, and also
I've stayed as far away from the drama of it
all as I possibly can, and maybe that's maybe that's
a bad thing. Maybe if I were to be more
involved with it, my music would be doing better, Like
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Maybe, And if we had drama, if we were throwing
chairs off of buildings, like, do we sell better? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And I think it's a natural, natural thought just because
of kind of the way that TikTok and Instagram and
all these like kind of click baity things are happening
right now. But who am I to judge somebody for
a real situation that's happening and how they're dealing with
it and it happening to benefit their music career? Who
am I to judge that? I don't I don't want
my team and I've talked a lot about this. I
just really don't. It wouldn't be me to create a
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story for the sake of, you know, getting people to
talk about a certain song or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's just not me. It's just not me. And that's
that's okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I think if if anything like that were to happen,
it would have to be like truly truly real. And
I think a lot of these situations that are happening
that we're seeing maybe probably are real and that are
real yeah, And that's what I'm saying is like I'm
not going to you know, confirm it, deny what I
know or don't know, but I think, like regardless, I
think if it works for your career and it's real,
then what happened?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know? Yeah, I think it's interesting because my perspective
of you, so you hit number one right when I
went into my baby bubble and had my third baby.
So I knew of you just by like charts and
all the things, but I didn't know no of you.
And what I know of you now two years in
to me knowing of you is that you aren't the
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drama girl. And that's why I am mildly obsessed with
your career going well, because I like that there can
be headlines swirling. But while headlines are swirling, your nose
is down and you're writing great songs and you're being
an artist and you're hustling, and you're not sleeping and
you're potentially breaking up with the wrong guy we don't know,
but because you're working so hard, that's the focus. And
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I just think that, you know, Jan and I are
raising daughters now, and Taylor Swift is a very big
deal in our house. Kelsey Ballerini is a very big
deal in our house. Talented and both extremely people, very
good people. And I want the Ashley Cooks of the
world to dominate that for our daughters and for our world.
And I want your voice to be louder than everybody else.
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And I don't want you to have to throw chairs
or punches or that's the.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Tough part, dude. Yeah, I think it really is.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And I've talked to a lot of friends about this, Like,
you know, like Caitlin Brown and I are really great friends,
and we've talked a lot about this, and she's incredible,
and we've all kind of you know, Kaitlin and I
were just chatting about this a little bit and it's like.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Should I, like, do I do? Do I make a
note headline? Do I do something like? That's just not me?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And she goes, Ashley, you already have a really incredible
fan base that buys your tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You're building it slowly.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're doing what you don't need to do if you
were to do something for the sake of a headline
to make somebody, you know, all of a sudden, TikTok
goes viral with this thing, and this song happens to
be involved. Like, if you were to do that, the
core fan base that you have, you might sell more
tickets with new people that would just go in here
to the next thing that's popping up, But your fan
base would be like, that's not that's not our Ashley,
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that's not who they know. And so yeah, I mean
it's it's tough. I want to be in my head
against a wall constantly about this because I'm like, all right, well,
I feel.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like I should no do Some things are one of
the wordy and you know, worse, if you want to
be clickbaity, you know, get an awesome dance going up
on TikTok TikTok, you know what I mean? All those things,
But when it comes to headlines and that nature, there's
so many negative people that will just out then twist
your life in circles. And it's you know, I anytime
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I ever see a headline, I hate I hate it,
you know what I mean, because there's always going to
be an opinion about it. So just as long as
like she said, like you're you're you, you continue to
be who you are, and that is that it's going
to be longevity and you're going to have respect.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And the person telling me that is the Browns. I mean,
Kane Brown is selling out stadiums and he's he's not
having all these things going on or this, that and
the other, like his wonderful all these people they're not
having all these negative or not negative but well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean honiacious.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I think a lot of people have the mentality of like, well,
if it's negative, people are still talking.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
It's like it's almost like the things that you do
that get people to have positive or negative opinions, and
it's the things that people have both about that become
the bigger situations. So I think, you know, I've always
been told and I really appreciate it. Throughout the industry.
Whenever people talk about me, it's always like, oh my god,
we love her. She's she's so great and she's so
nice and she's so talented, and I'm like, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But then it's like, it.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Isn't that that clickbaity story everybody's talking thing, And that's okay.
I think that's my thing is everybody's different, everybody's convict
them of different things. But I think for me, if
I were to do something that felt not me for
the sake of having a song go big or whatever
it is. I don't think I could sleep good at night.
I think I would struggle a lot with that. To know,
and not saying anybody else is doing that either. I
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just think it's like.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, let's get you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Let's get you a headline, girl. Okay, what country artists?
WoT you date?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh god, let's get you.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
A headline right now?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Oh god, let's do f Okay, country artists, single males go?
If you want your headline here it is single country males.
No one.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Do you want the married? No? So okay, you toss
in low cash and let's just make this a double one.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I mean, I will say too, like I feel like
my type is not typically other artists.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Right, it's just really well done. I think that's really brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, So what's not?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
More?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Sports players are actors? I don't know. I mean, did
you didn't you do a song with Joe Jonas? Did
is he in a relationship? I can which one would
you date? Joe Jonahs?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh god, I mean he's cute, that's he says.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, yeah, he's cute.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I will say, we will say Joah, I was more
of a net girl growing up.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Okay, which one's the marriage? Trying to get Kevin?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We're just trying here. No, I don't know. I mean yeah,
I think was there chemistry? Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Aoh he's great. I like, did you kiss Joe Jonah?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh my god, I'm not going forward? Oh, I like
where this is staring.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Meanwhile is all of the management.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
He's a great partner.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We call him Preston, and we have three babies. Oh
my gosh, I don't know that it's like a chance.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Honestly, I will say this, since October, this is the
first time that I have like been on dates.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like I've been pretty much in relationships. You No, I'm scared.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I don't want to go on und it's not great
this person.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I meet it. I'm meeting a lot of pigeon, but
like I meet it, I just care about that stuff.
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
And that's maybe like stupid to say, but I really don't. Like, No,
it's not stupid, like full transparency. I feel like, so, yeah,
since October.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Whatever happened in your body, go at that. I like,
we let it all out, let's see.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Okay, So I've pretty much been a serial dater since
I was like fourteen. Like I've literally been in and
out of relationships since I was fourteen, Like I've not stopped.
I've really never been single. And so when we broke
up in October, I was like, all right, I'm gonna
be single. Went on dates, like had a really good
time that a lot of people, different types of people,
people that had yachts or whatever, and I just the
people that I connect with the most of the ones
that we just have like a unique, like soul full
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connection and that's great.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But like, I don't know my type. Does that makes sense?
I can tell you, like what I look at somebody
like you're hot.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But like so right now we're having like hot girl summer,
trying to figure out what Ashley likes.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Correct, Yeah, I love that kind of all over this
is there a dream dude? Like you know, growing up
for us, like Matthew McConaughey was my guy, who's yours.
He's not anymore by the way, he's married and lovely
and I am that's not a thing, but growing up
we all liked him. How to lose a in ten days,
I mean like still to be attainable. Yeah, and actually preferred.
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If it's not, maybe it is after you say it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I mean, like when Powell's cute.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Okay, I like that, I do, Glenn. I wonder if
he's If it's not Sydney, then I'm here for Ashley.
If it is Sydney, I'm here for Ashley. Lenny's he
is cute. He's really cute. He's funny. Oh, you guys
would be real cute together.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Never met him?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh heyn wondering when and Ashley? I I love that.
So Glenn, if you're listening.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
He seems like a real nice, normal dude.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He really does.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
But I feel like he's also like the heart throb
of the generation right now.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
So you are too, and you kind of you know,
you got like a little bit of a Sydney like eyes,
you know what I mean, Like you've got the blonde.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, you're naturally really pretty, thank you. I know you're talented,
but I don't know, I think we're not. Probably this
is in the body count thing, the we're not supposed
to chail that are pretty anymore. I think it's like
the thing, right, but you just are and you're not
a made up person, which I like to all Right,
So Glenn Powell.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Have you ever Ashley Powell tried it on DAMS. I
don't know if he does. Do you've never done it?
Hold on, Okay, here's all I do it right now.
My whole life have always.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Been like, oh my god, I'm scared you're gonna decide
to Glenn Powell's DAMS do it?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, good lord, I'm a good wing wing person right now,
Glenn Powell should also get a garbage.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You gonna say, Glenn.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, but if I meet him an event soon and
he's gonna be like, you're.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Weird white, he's probably weird too. It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Goanna say you're the class.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I will see ye your name? We need like a
vote him up. Okay, hey Glenn, I'm sure that's exactly
how I'll read it.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hey Glenn, Hey, Glenn podcasting with the Beautiful Ashley Cook.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Your name came up.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm just saying cute, Yes, yeah, I'm going to have
you press.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm scared what if this is just okayed, good good
at shooting my shot? That's just not I want you
to you need to get.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
You going to tell you you're sitting you're sitting between
your sandwich in this.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Little youth college friends. But there we go.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
We're we are in our forties and all the things
we would have done them different at your age, and
so much I don't regret, but so many things that
I'm like, I wish I just would have had the
confidence to just do different things because and.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I did your shot, your shot, live your dream, shoot
for the stars.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
One. Don't you give up?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
You know what I'm saying, Like, obviously we've like literally
the one life too short. Shoot your shots, girlfriend, Yeah,
shoot for the you know, shoot for it all is
you can. You can literally do it all. And you
know what's the worst that can happen? He doesn't respond, Okay, yeah,
that is a good point.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What's going to happen is like he reads it, doesn't respond.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Only we don't event together, And I'm like, Hi, Cret's a.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Great story, because I think we're never going to get
me all right, Actually, dude, the hell you are.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Tell us everything that's coming out, give us your give
us a whole spiel.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
For my second album coming out, and that's I haven't
announced once it's coming out yet. I know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I was trying to look up where the hell you are.
I was like, I want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, what comes out on Friday this Friday, which is super,
super exciting, And I just feels like a different era.
I think, even just like what we talked about today,
I think a lot of a lot of my first
record was a lot of like chasing what I wanted
to be a hit and a lot of sense, which
is just natural for your first record. But this one
feels a little more. I fought for what I wanted
in the rooms, and I was really intentional about what
(38:52):
I wanted to say, how I wanted to write, the
things that I wanted to do, And I think I'm
just kind of coming into my sureness a little more
of you know, being I'm a surveyor big time. Like
I love to survey, I love to ask opinions. I
love to I'm very indecisive, which is why I have
a hard time shooting my shot because I'm always just like,
what do I want?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't know, like I just it's always all over
the place.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
And I think with this next album, with all this
stuff with my family this past year that I told
you he was about, and in general, I just feel
like a little more of like a raw honesty era.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, a little more blunt and.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Trying to figure out exactly what it is that I
want and speaking in my mind when my gut feels right,
because that's kind.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Of rare me.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Women, We always have to listen to our gut because
our gut knows and our gut tells us everything.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And again, I mean, look at freaking Taylor and Travis.
Travis like he shot his shock.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He shot his shot, you know what I mean? Yeah,
how did that go? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Did he asn't really tickets or something?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Bracelet he gave his number. Yeah, so it's like he's
sho he shot it and he scored, you know what
I mean. Like Preston Brust did the same. Yeah, Alan,
like you know, he shot his shot too. They all scored,
so they did.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Do you guys think there's something about women shooting their
shot versus man shooting their shot?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No? No, I do think that men need to be
the ones to be like, oh, I want you to
go after you.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think they need the effort level. But I don't
think I think either right ones don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Maybe it's like a maturity level thing and if they don't,
if they don't like it, then that means that.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's not the right one.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, so we'll see, Glenn.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It is operate playing the operating and I, which will
be super fun. I guess, like my sixth or.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Seventh time playing the Incredible Naire though.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
It's so much fun. And I get to actually play
that song The Hell You Are for the first time tonight. Yeah,
the first time ever.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
We're playing it out.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's incredible. Actually, thank you for coming on the show.
You You are welcome anytime.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Guys on the couches for wine in a little chat.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bye girls, Bye,
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