June 24, 2019 • 53 mins
It’s Mike and Jana’s first few nights in their new home... but they’re sleeping in separate beds.
We discuss the double standard when women follow attractive men on Instagram and Jana tells the story of when she got caught checking a guy out.
Plus, we hear Mike and Jana’s “Parent Confessions”.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down and Michael Cochlin and I have heard radio podcast.
It's our first recording International house, Crazy, so insane and sweet.
Easton is slumber partying it with us. It's um, I
know you guys are listening to this Monday morning, but
(00:22):
real time right now for us. It's a nasty thunderstorm
outside and but I kind of love it. I love
Michael's yawning. So this is gonna be a great episode. No,
I just I had love a good thunderstorm. I'm scared
to drive in thunderstorms, but I like being at home
in the screen and porch. I think, yes, driving in
(00:45):
a thunderstorm isn't fun, but being in the car, like
when you're a kid and your parents are driving the thunderstorm,
it's just something cozy about it, so cozy I'll never forget.
I know Katherine's listened to this. So I was in
a car. We were going to pick up a dog,
and dog, um the boxer that I had. Channas had
more dogs and I can't remember. This is where dogs
(01:07):
come to pass on no stop but no. So I
we were going to pick up this dog and Katherine
was driving, and it started to get like this really
scary looking weather where it was like you're on the expressway,
what do you do? So I'm like Catherine ball over
(01:28):
and I was like screaming a passenger. It was the passenger,
Why are you freaking out so much? Because there was
about to be a tornado? Like it was a funnel cloud.
It was terrifying. So we pulled over and went into
a gas station. But that's just my biggest did you
spot the funnel cloud? Okay, I swear it's in the
five coming our way. We gotta get off. No, I truly,
I'm obviously a big fan of Twister, but no, I
(01:50):
literally you know, remember that one time to where the
sirens were going off and I wouldn't go get I
wouldn't go to CVS. I mean technically you shouldn't anyways
because the are going off, But no, I mean I
just I don't know. I get really scared thunderstorms when
I'm driving. I mean, you just had to come out
and run out of our room and like screamed for
(02:11):
me and say, Michael, is our window going to cave in?
Well it was doing that, Like, yeah, there's just thunder
I know. I love it though, it's very crazy. Yeah,
it's really a hidden that's around in the house. So
I'm trying to catch them. But the move has been
so exciting. Yeah, and not going on. Yeah, it's been fun.
It's been stressful, but it has been fun, even though
(02:31):
we still have so much more to do. And poor
Easton sleeping on so our producer Amy was like, we'll
put Eastern up in a hotel and like, no, Easton
has to stay with us. But then now he's literally
sleeping on the ground, mattress on the ground. He did
you see how I put the headboard though, so it
kind of feels like he's he's gonna be real bad.
It's an optical illusion. Yeah, it totally is. But we're
(02:54):
happy are here Eastern things. Yes, having any other way,
but no, it's really it's interesting. It's it's feels weird
to be in the house. A lot of people have
asked about the leak. Um if the leak has been
fixed again. I find out about business in our life
via my friends and family members because they text me
about there's a leak in your house. I'm like, how
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do you even know? And then even though this has
happened a thousand times, Oh, Jane instagramed, Uh so, yeah,
so I guess you instagram. You know. Well, people say that,
you know, you have to be really careful of mold,
and so that freaks me out because I don't want
because mold can make you so sick kids, adults, so
(03:37):
I'm fearful of that. So a lot of people were like,
make sure you check because mold can grow so incredibly fast.
So that was one of their main concerns. And then
they said that maybe the flashing wasn't right in the windows.
So what did the builders say? It was the windows.
So they fixed it that night and then the window
company came out the next day just to make sure.
(03:58):
Oh so they didn't repatch it. No, they did repatch it.
Oh they did. Okay, So I was, okay, we're gonna
be okay, We're not going to drown in a house. Yeah,
but it's it's it's been cool. It's uh, you know,
it's it's a change being back here. We do miss
our little, you know, a little humble house in Los Angeles.
And when Jolie has to the other night, Jolie was
(04:22):
being a complete b word and having to send her
to the Beautiful Baby, having to send her to her
room over and over again and assisting her in that
going up and down, up and down the stairs was interesting.
You know, I never thought I would miss square feet,
but I missed fourteen ft. It's like, wow, we really
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don't need that much. It's okay, Yeah, it was great
and I kind of miss I missed that, I missed
the I was telling Julie this the other day. I
was like, I miss kind of that comfy, cozy feeling. Yeah,
we're you're you're kind of on top of each other
and everyone. You just feel kind of connected and yeah,
because there's nowhere else to go. Yeah, last night we're
(05:03):
leaving and supper butts, welcome to the Cossin House. Is
that a way to start it off? Our second night
now sleeping? Sleeping? Oh, way to just start a good
time coming on? But that's inevitable. Not all relationships are perfect. No,
(05:29):
So anyways, you said you wanted to bring something up,
So there's something interesting and we'll get back more on
the move and everything. But so I was at by
the way you're talking in a very like jazzy like.
So anyways, that's just I think it's I think part
of me is trying to be quiet because the kids
are sleeping. So it's like I'm trying to keep because
my voice carries, right, it has, you know, so it
(05:50):
carries even if I'm trying to be quiet. Maybe it's
just naturally fallen into the smooth jazz. I need your
energy to be a little more up there. But do
you want me await the kids? They're sleeping, Okay, alright,
So anyway, so something I wanted to bring up, which
I thought this this topic is of sensitive nature, and
(06:11):
I don't I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers and
piss anybody off. This is just me being curious about
this topic. So I was at home Depot like the
second day we got here, because I needed every single
day since we like moved into this house, because I'll
be like, hey we need this later, Hey I need
(06:33):
a screwdriver, Hey I need and this is sorry to
cut you off, but he'll say, hey, I'm going to
home depot. Five hours later he comes home and I
was like, do you just stand in every single aisle
and go I kind of do. It's like when you
go to the grocery store and you don't really know
what you're gonna get, you so you just kind of
meander down every aisle. I was. I'm kind of that
way at home deepot. I'm like, I know I only
(06:53):
need this in this, but let me take a look
in plumbing. There's nothing to do in plumbing. I'll never
do anything in plumbing, but let me do just take
a look see if there's anything I need. So I
was in home depot and I had to get a
new grill for the house. And I asked a gentleman.
I was like, Hey, is there anyone in the grill
section that can help me? They're like, yeah, Sarah's over
there and can give your hands. Said okay, great, So
(07:14):
I walk over. You're telling this story, yeah, because I
think I think it's interesting. So I walked over and
there Sarah and it was a gentleman. Okay, I mean
it looked like, talked like, walked like a male at
a five o'clock shadow, mustache and all. But his name
(07:37):
was just Sarah. His name is Sarah, and uh was
he being a Sarah or was he a Sarah? Justs Hey, Mike, Like,
so I have a friend named Stacy. He's very straight Stacy.
So is this a straight Stacy or no? This is
a from my perspective, because they also had a pride
pin on there. I come deep a vest was someone
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who was transitioning maybe into a woman. So I mean
no issue at all. I was like, hey, Sarah, you
know whatever, and so this is where like even just
saying it now like her at our time, do do
I say she? Because like and when I when I
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think I wanted to thank her or him, I want,
I want to say like yes ma'am or yes sir,
and I didn't know what to say. We're just like
I was just like, yes, Sarah, thank you, and she
or he was very very helpful and it was great,
(08:43):
and it was it was out of It wasn't me
by being naive. It was just me being maybe hyper
sensitive because I didn't want to offend them in any way.
I just I didn't know you're saying them though? Is
that people already take that offensively saying them, Uh, what
do you mean? So you're I don't want to offend them.
So even no matter how people are so hypersensitive about
(09:05):
this topic to the big you're just calling us them.
Well that but that's that's my thing of just saying,
but I also don't want to I don't want me
to make the decision whether it's a he or she,
that's up to Sarah, right, So how but how do
I know? Like so it wasn't like a Stacy like
where he wasn't like like Stacy is like very your
(09:26):
football player Stacy. So it wasn't like he was looks
like he was transitioning to be a girl. Yes, okay,
so like the hair that said, yes, it definitely looked
at but you knew it was a man. So your
question is what how do you say because you because
because we do say thank you, ma'am, thank you sir.
So it's like, what do you say just can you
just say just thank you? Yes? Yes. But that's that's
(09:48):
why what made me think about this whole topic, because
you said we we always say kind of yes sir,
yes ma'am to people, and you know we've we talked
about on a show about having the kids say yes ma'am,
yes sir. And so it's just one of those things
you just brought up the conversation topic in my head
of what does he or she like? How does how
does it just a random person someone like me or
(10:11):
someone like you or someone like Easton how do we
approach that or how do what's the what's the correct way? Like?
What what? I'm even hypersensitive when you say a random person,
So they're not a random So that's that's I'm just random.
It could be another it could be someone else who's transitioning.
Random persons, you just pick them out of a hat.
It doesn't matter. We should get Caitlyn Jenner on the show.
(10:32):
We should or someone that has either is transitioning like
that would be a very interesting conversation because it's a
great idea. Honey, we I think a lot of people
maybe want to know that because that is more of
an ongoing not ongoing. How do I say that? That's
you have to be so politic like I don't want
to say anything wrong. You have to be careful with
(10:55):
how you choose your words right, right, And that's all
it is. It's it's it's an ongoing transition for people.
Where it's we're more aware of it, right because people
are speaking out a bit about it. People are are
being more open and honest about it. But why do
you have to identify as one or the other? I
guess that's my question. Why can't you just say thank you? Like,
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why do I have to identify them? Yeah, like why
does it have to be one or the other? It doesn't,
It doesn't, but that I'm not saying it does. I'm
just saying it sparked my curiosity on someone in that situation,
who's transitioning, What what they prefer like? What? Like? What? Yeah?
Just what would they prefer? Like? What would offend them?
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What wouldn't? Like would if someone's in transition, would they
be offended if you said sir? Wouldn't addressed like a female?
If I said sir even though his or her name
was Sarah and look like here she was transitioning? Or
would they be offended if I said, ma'am, even though
he or she looks like a male, but the name
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is Sarah. Uh here is a certain way they probably
like whatever. So it's just it's just one of the
things I'm just curious because because I want to be
sensitive to people's feelings, because I want to be able
to call them what they want to be called, because
they deserve that, you know, whoever, and I say they
as whoever is transitioning, deserve to be called whatever they
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want to be called. So it's just it's but like
you said, I think it's a great idea to get someone,
whether it's a Caitlyn Jenner or someone who is in transition,
to come on and talk about it, so to just
to educate, because that's a lot of us aren't educated. Yeah,
I know that's true. And a lot of people too.
We had, um, we had a gig guy come up
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to us saying that we should talk about this. So
I think that's definitely an interesting topic that we should
talk about. Yeah, I think so too. I'm curious to
people's opinions too, So email at wind down at my
heart radio dot com. Good topic, Thank you, and then
now let's take a break. Sure, all right, now that
we're in the new house, we are so happy that
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at sleep number dot com. Slash Janna. So, I read
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a lot of my Instagram direct messages and this um girl,
Tori wrote me, and she goes Janna, I have a
suggestion of a topic for wine Down. I'd love to
hear what you, Mike and his friends have to say
about this. My friends and I have dealt with our
boyfriends following so many hot sexy girls on Instagram. It
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really makes us feel uncomfortable and self conscious. Obviously, we
have all talked to our boyfriends and they'll say they
deleted them, or we'll delete them and slowly follow some back.
What are your thoughts on this interesting floor is yours?
Don't go? Go right ahead? Said, and my friends like
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what my friends think of it? Yeah? I mean what
you know, we can say like maybe what Ethan thinks
of it? You know? Um? Okay, okay, since you're trying
to find your words. What if what if I on
my Instagram? You went on my page and I followed
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a bunch of sexy guys that were, you know, sexy
and had their shirt off a lot descriptive, and you know,
you're on my phone or you're seeing my Instagram and
you're seeing me going through my feed and it's all
these sexy guys. Would something come up for you? Are
(15:35):
they sexy? They're sexy? Like they're they're they're like, you know, sexy. Okay,
I got like, like what you know? Uh, Like I
was gonna name someone, but like you, I don't need
to name anybody. So I'm just saying, you know, I
don't know. No, but I'm just saying, damn it, Tory, no,
(16:00):
um no no no. But but how would that make
you feel, so I think it's a double standard, And
unfortunately that's what I think this is. The Instagram thing
is a double standard because I think it's guys are
like whatever, like, yeah, I'm following this sexy workout model.
But if a girl was to be following that sexy
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workout guy, is that a double standard? Is that okay?
Should you be following people that you are looking at
in a sexy way and thinking, wow, they're sexy when
you're in a relationship? What are you? Why are you
grinning like that they're smiling? Um? First, I mean life
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is a double standard. I mean there's so many double
standards and it's not fair. And to truthfully answer your question, yes,
like you know, I don't have any social media. If
I've looked over while you're going through your feet and
I just saw shirtless guys left and right, then they'll
be like what, like what isnt this? Do you have
following that you know? And I think the same breath
(17:03):
for guys where it's like like why why would you
follow this Instagram model? Does she promote something that you like?
Does like does she have a political view that you like? No? No,
she's just half naked, right, so there's no like, there's
no there's no other reason to follow somebody like that
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other for other than the intrigue, the aesthetic intrigue of it.
So so in Tori's thing, does she have a point
to be upset? And yeah, because if if that's how
it makes her feel and that's you know, then she
has the right to feel that way, and she has
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the right to tell him like, look, this makes me
feel uncomfortable. Now there are I'm sure there are relationships
just like you know, if we talk to people that
have an open relationship or this or that, Okay, if
that works for them, fine. There's probably some people that
they don't care who the other one follows because their
relationship is fine, there's no issues or whatever, and they
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just mind their own business and they follow who they
want to follow. So I'm not I'm not sitting here
saying that nobody should do that, because there's relationships that
probably both of them do it and they're fine with it.
But majority speaking, yes, I think it's an issue because
what's the point. Well, going back to you know, your
(18:29):
page when we first started dating, I mean, you were
following really pretty girls. Why is that really a problem? Though?
It's not are you really following? Do guys really follow
the pretty girls because they get that endorphin hit of
usci sexy for a second while you're while you're swiping through. Yeah,
I think it's just something to look at because I mean,
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you know, you go through that stuff so quick, right,
and so you just go and scroll and scroll and scrolling,
and you see it, okay, and then you go that
keep going, go the next thing, whether a news thing,
whether the sport thing with it, whether it you know,
an attractive woman, whatever it may be. Like people, that's
just people are in our generation scroll, you know, so
(19:10):
back when I have social media before you and I
like even but you know what I mean, like, yeah,
I mean, you know, in my opinion, in our opinion,
we don't think there's a place for it. And I
think Tori has a reason or has a legitimate it.
You know, she's allowed to be upset by it. But
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here's to switch it though, So you're not allowed to
look at an attractive person when they walk by. I'm
not saying that. It's kind of the same as Instagram.
You can't control if someone attractive walks by you. If
you just happen to if you happen to we walk
in one direction, another attractive person is walking in the
opposite direction. You can control who you follow on social media.
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You can control who you look at on social media,
So I think that's a difference. One is a natural occurrence.
One is something that is in your hands. What do
you think about guys that look at other girls when
they're with their girlfriends or wives, because that is that
is the number one thing that makes me so annoyed
when guys do that, because it's just guys. When a
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girl walks with a guy, they're not staring at the
other guy. But when when you're telling me what that
when you've dated people in the past and you're with them,
if he's saw an attractive man, I don't not when
I'm like holding the person's hand and walking through them
all like this just happened the other day and I'm walking,
Oh no, it was in the airport and this guy
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was with with his wife or girlfriend, whoever it was,
and he's stairs and I'm like, sure me, or maybe
you're staring to me. You weren't there. I was struggling
by myself. So it just that just bothers me because
I don't. I don't like that for the girl, And
I'm like, why are you looking? Why are you looking
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at someone else? How much do you want to just
blow his spot up in that moment? Oh more than anything?
Like why are you looking at me? And it's not
because I'm whatever, Like he doesn't freaking know I'm Alex
from One Tree Hill like he you're regardless of your career,
you're a beautiful woman. But I'm just saying I don't
like it when a guy does that because I think
it's so disrespectful to the girl that he's standing next
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to you. If he wasn't walking next to his significant
other and he looked at you, would that be an issue.
Maybe he's just looking, like to see where he's going.
So now it's it's now it's he's just looking at
something past. I still don't think you should. I still
I just feel like, when if you're in a relationship
and you're married, you should. You shouldn't be walking around
and looking. If you happen to look up and you're
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at a Starbucks and you look in line, I'm looking
at Eastern right now? O. Hey given it like a
little nod. But when they blatantly are walking and kind
of look to you renecking, then yeah, in no way.
But I feel like a lot of married men and
in relationship people guys do that. It's so obvious. I mean,
I've keep doing it before, you know what I mean,
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And you're like, I'm just looking, But I mean it's
just I think it's just a guy thing. I'm not
like trying to like throw you under the rug. I
just think it's a it's a double standard guy thing.
And I don't understand. And if the guy's point of
either like, oh, we're just looking, you're telling you're telling
me that there aren't women out there that have done
the same thing. I don't think it's obvious because you
guys are just better at it. Sure, there was one
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time that I did a bad job one time, and
you probably can name that. One time I did a
really bad job. Were we together? We were together and
I did a really bad job of it, a terrible job.
Where was it? You know? It was an l A.
I don't remember who was it. He was trying to
find his dog Jason what No, No, remember the guy
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that was going down the street in his car. That
is the one time I did it wrong that was
funny because I called you all out. You're right, But
that's the thing, like that was the one time I
did it wrong. So I was with my girlfriend, Sarah,
Sarah Boyd, who is you know, one of my dearest friends.
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And we actually are the co founders of the Mom's
and Baby's Box. By the way, shout out to moms
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giving me some boxes and this guy pulls up in
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his car and he's like, hey, have you seen my
dog Willow or something? And you were out there with us,
but I had I had either just come outside or
I just pulled up. No, that's what it was. I
just pulled up. I just pulled up and I was
getting out of the car and you guys were talking
to him, and he was like in like a dope
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range rover or something. I think the sun was shining
only on him. It was cloudy everywhere else in l
A that day, and he just I mean talking about world.
I mean, he was handsome and so way. No, no, no, no,
So he's like, do you know where your dog Willow? Like,
have you seen my dog Willow? I don't know if
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that was the name, but I saw two speechless grown
women acting like thirteen year old girls. No. No, We're like,
oh no, you lost your dog. We're so sorry. And
I think the dog was like three legged rescue that
you know, no, but he was just like so concerned
and we're like, oh, I'm We're so sorry. And then honey,
have you seen a dog running around? And you know,
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Mike's like no, but you know, man, we'll be looking
for it. That was Jane's way of trying to include me,
and on this conversation was hey, oh honey, honey your home.
Oh by the way, that this lovely man is looking
for his dog. And I into the window and see
this what this guy looks like. And I was just
like okay. And so he drives away and I was like,
that was a it was a really nice car. I
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really liked that car. And he was like, but I
couldn't find the words. I was just saying, that was
a really nice he was that was a really nice,
gorgeous car. And well, it's funny because you and Sarah
do you want of you you didn't really know what
to say, and so I said for you. I literally
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said it for you guys. I was like, look, he
was handsome. I get it, Like it's okay, Like I
said it for you guys, and then you kind of
loosened up like yeah, he kind of was. But then
we're like willow, willow willo. Yeah. That was that was
the one day. I mean he left you speechless. We
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were just like that nice, nice car. He's like, yeah,
he was handsome, Like yeah, okay, that's I mean, that's
the thing is So that's circling back. I think it's
just one of those things where it's if it's an
instance like that where you're just right and you and I.
You and I have talked about this like early on
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with everything that we've been through, you know, and you
worried about me looking at people or whatever it may be.
I'm like, and we finally were able to get to
a place where I had the conversations like, look, attractive
people exist in this world, like you said, if it's
something that just platonically happens where you look up and
someone's in front of you a Starbucks or or whatever,
but if you seek it out or rubber neck. That's different.
(26:34):
That's disrespectful. That's um, what's the word I'm looking for,
Um objectifying, you know what I mean? That's objectifying when
you when you hold that, that gives that long. So
it's then instagram objective objectifying or people objectify themselves on Instagram.
That's the whole thing about it. Yeah, So I mean again,
(26:56):
I think it's a relationship by relationship basis. Ultimately, I
don't see the reason why people would have to follow
those kind of people. Eastern. Do you follow any attractive
women on Instagram? I've follow some women who art I
admire another Janna Kramer your intertractive women, Janna Kramer, I
(27:19):
follow you, right, But what does your wife feel about that?
I mean before, when we were dating, in the early
stages of dating, I was following some some ladies that
just look nice. And I also told me she didn't
like that, and so I didn't followed them. Yes, and
I can understand that. So Tor, that's what a man
(27:41):
should do if you feel uncomfortable, and if you're feeling insecure,
it's okay to say, hey, this makes me uncomfortable, knowing
that you're looking at right, And I think that's that's
within anyone's boundaries of their relationship. It's one thing if
Tory or somebody else was like, I want you off
social media, like I don't want you to. I don't
want you have any social media. Or you can't follow
(28:02):
any girls, you can't follow any girls at all. My
friend or she's my friend, or I like this actress
because whatever, you know what I mean, not because they're
putting themselves out there, but because you know whatever. So again,
she's within her boundaries to address that. Anybody is, as
long as you're not trying to control again, then having
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You know, I had a therapy session and I said,
sometimes I feel like a fraud. Sometimes I feel like
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we give all this relationship advice, but then yeah, we
don't listen to our own advice. And I started to
just like cry, and you know, she said to me,
she goes, do you think that I do it perfect?
She was, I'm a therapist and my husband and I
just had a huge fight two nights ago, and those
(30:37):
thoughts always go through my head while I'm telling my
patients to say this and to do this, but yet
I'm not doing it. So but for me, for some reason,
I just struggle with that because I think, all right,
we're just how are we giving advice when we have
we're still so aft? Do you know the old saying
those who can't teach, that's the same for reason. Okay,
(31:01):
but first of all, side sidebar, how much do you
love that this new therapist got personal with you? And yeah,
she was great. I really liked her a lot. It
was you know, I definitely liked her more than my
last therapist I had in l A just because I
like to have that kind of cross talk and that
we were able to have an actual conversation where it
didn't feel like a therapist, just being like, so, how
does that make you feel? It's She was like, yeah, no,
(31:23):
my husband and I we got into a huge fight
before we had this big supper club dinner and we
had to figure out how to reconnect and it wasn't
until you know, one of us really owned our stuff
and that, you know. So it was just it was
nice to be able to have that kind of conversation
with someone who can relate. Yeah, are bad. I mean
(31:44):
I get what you're saying about the feeling of being
a fraud, But again, how many times have we disclaimed
we're not experts, we don't have this figured out, you know,
and we're not necessarily teaching. We're just sharing it has
and has not worked for us, you know what I mean?
I don't I don't think of ourselves as teachers. I
(32:06):
think we're just we're a resource and a platform for
people to not feel alone and all the crap that
they have to go through, you know, and it's they
have the same effect on us everyone that listens to this,
you know, and all the comments and and support and
questions and all that helps us not feel so alone
and all the ft up stuff that we deal with.
(32:29):
Um No, but it was rough and to be our
second night in the house together and and have a
blow up like we did. I mean, it's been a
long time since it got like that, you know, and
that was really hard. I mean both of us were
heartbroken this morning over it. And you know, I do
want to say I commend you and appreciate you and
(32:52):
your ability to meet me in a good place when
I got home today, you know, because in the past
that wouldn't always happen. It would, you know, want some person.
Usually you wouldn't be ready because it was me that
had to come back and you know, initiate the connection
(33:13):
and the reconnection or the apology. But I appreciate you
being willing to listen, oh, on your side of things,
and then for us to try to move forward. What's
going on right now? Oh No, I'm just saying no,
I agree. Yeah, it's just it's just it was just
(33:34):
so sad. But Nashville just holds a lot of energy,
so we're trying to bring in new energy. It's just
very hard because, like my therapist said, it's very you know,
grieving isn't a straight line. It's kind of like a
corkscrew and you kind of go in and out of
the the corkscrew and it's um. It's just it's hard,
(33:55):
especially coming back into the place of the the explosion, right. So,
I think it's you know, trying to go through those
feelings and figure it out in a healthy space can
be kind of hard, you know. I think it was
my therapist. I think it's my therapist that said this
in my men's group or something one time, and it
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was like, you wouldn't expect somebody who just lost lost
their mother, or lost a child, or lost a loved
one like to a death. You wouldn't expect them to
rush their grieving process, would you. You know what I mean?
No matter when it was, no matter if it was
(34:37):
years down the road, months down the road, or a
few days later. Like you, people are able to usually
with stuff like that, be able to understand instantly where
you know, with this situation that stuff can kind of
come out of left field with you know, the scars
(34:59):
and in our history. So you know, that's something that
I kind of thought of earlier today, was remembering what
my therapist said of you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't
rush you if you were talking about a loved one.
If you're grieving a loved one, Grief is grief. It's
the same across the board. So there's no difference really
(35:21):
between it's just the subject of what you're grieving. So
it's you know, and by no means am I trying
to rush you? It was I trying to rush you,
And I don't think you have that that thought of
me trying to do that. But like I said earlier today,
when we're trying to reconnect, is I need to be
better at dissecting kind of how you're feeling or what's
(35:45):
coming out of your mouth and being like, okay, this
this seems familiar. I know this pattern. But that's also
not a job to have to read me the line. No,
and I'm not saying it is. But I can be
better at that. I can be more conscious of that
and if I'm not the ultimate thing is allow you
(36:08):
the space and latitude to handle it however you need
to handle it. If that means get angry, you get angry.
If that means get upset, that means if you even
you have to vent and say something mean, give you
the latitude and grace to do that and be your
your steady support. Yeah, you know, but because ultimately you
(36:31):
should say this is how I'm feeling, and this is
what But sometimes people can't deliver it hatway all the time.
So no, and nor should you be expected to, especially
when we just get back. You know, it would be
different if this was if we're in l A right
now and it happened like that kind of out of
nowhere on a topic, or you ask some questions about
(36:54):
nothing relevant, then that would probably would have been a
bigger issue. But it's completely understandable here. You know fresh,
Yeah it's super fresh, But it's just you know, that's
anyone who's in my position, whether it the male or
the female, you know you need to do a better
(37:14):
job than I do in those situations because my defense
is to attack back. That is just my how I've
been my whole life is when I feel attacked, I
attacked back, and I attacked harder. Yeah, you're well, so
it's you know, it's not something I'm proud of. And
(37:36):
more times than not, I handle it the incorrect way.
And there are those times that I do handle it
the correct way. And we just had one recently in
l A, you know, and it's it's funny. I was
at my twelfth step meeting earlier today. It's the same
one that I used to go to when we're in Nashville,
and I saw some guys that remembered me and that
(37:58):
I remembered them, and I was talking to one of
them after, and you know, I shared about the stuff
that kind of we went through last night in the meeting,
and it was the same guy that I still remember
him saying this a couple of years ago in a
meeting at the same place in Nashville, and he was like,
I'm so tired of saying I'm sorry, and not not
(38:21):
for what he did to cause the riff in the relationship,
not the infidelity, not for saying sorry for the big stuff.
It's I'm sorry sorry. I'm tired of saying sorry for
making things worse. And I told him that today I
was like, dude, I remember you saying years ago, and
I was like, that's how I felt today. I was like,
(38:41):
I am, I'm tired of saying sorry for I'm sorry
for not handling this better, I'm sorry for reacting, I'm
sorry for saying this is this thing me, And I'm
sorry for you know that. You know. So it's ultimately
it's because I don't want you to not feel safe.
I want you to feel safe and why won't you
feel that I'm your rock? But also for me, I'm tired.
(39:04):
I'm tired to saying sorry. I'm tired to be saying
sorry to Can you just be nice? It would be nice.
But you know, the the optimistic part of me is,
like we talked about earlier, I mean, we wish this
didn't have to happen at all. I know, I kind
(39:24):
of made the comment about it being inevitable because we
didn't really know how much weight it was going to
carry until we were in it, and unfortunately we got
in it like that, you know. So now that it
happened as quickly as it did, the silver lining from
(39:46):
from my point of view is, Okay, this will help me.
I can learn from this. This will help me a
lot moving forward to consider, you know, to be consistent
and vigilant and staying steady, not putting myself in a
position where I have to say sorry for anything new,
(40:08):
and just creating safety for you in a place that
you didn't feel safe for a long time. Hm. Well,
I'll drink to that. I would like that. Hey, let's
lighten it up a little bit. Give me a parent confession.
(40:30):
Apparent apparent confession. Mm hmm. Today's parent confession. This week's
parent confession. We should do it every week. This week's
parent confession is you know, I'll say I was just
(40:52):
saying I actually had mine is so bad. I had
one that I was gonna like even bring up to you,
pat like naturally. The other day I was gonna say, hey,
I was like kind of really short with Jolie, like
really short with her, and I got mad at her
really quick. The other day. I don't remember what for.
(41:14):
It was just she was, you know, she's in her
three nager stage where it's just challenges everything, and with
the all the movie and everything, it was one of
those that afterwards, I felt like bad, I felt sad,
and it really it actually really bothered me. I'm like
my sweet girl was just trying to figure things out,
and I was just I was short with her, and
(41:34):
it really made me sad. It makes me sad right now.
I don't know you can do better. I mean you
can well honestly. I mean that's why I like tonight
when I was giving her bath and she like, I
did better tonight. You know I did better tonight. And
I didn't get mad at her. I didn't, you know,
(41:57):
at all. I just, you know, her thing to kind
of stop for her. What she does to make us
stop asking her to do what we want is she's like,
well I want to hug, right and the other the
other night when I was short with her, I was like, no, Jolie,
we have to do this. You know. It's like she's
asking for a hug m hm. And tonight I got stopped.
(42:21):
Every time she wanted to hug. I was like, Okay,
come me, baby, go give me hug. So I just
I didn't I made it for it tonight. But yeah,
I think every parent can relate to that though, where
you just it's a long day and you just want
to go to bed. You just want to put them
in their bed and so you're not alone in that feeling.
(42:42):
I'm sure a lot of other people have felt the
same way. Yeah, I'm sure what was yours. Julie felt
today at school and I laughed inside because she was
making such a brat and she fell, and I was like,
that's what you get. Yeah. But then I felt bad
(43:02):
afterwards because I think she was embarrassed. So I think
she started I know, then I felt bad. I didn't.
I laughed internally. I was like, uh huh, I know,
so that's and she kind of looked and I was like,
baby girl, it's okay. So the second I felt that
I went straight to it was it was a split
second that you deserved it too, to oh you. And
(43:24):
I saw her look when she saw miss Holly, and
I was like, oh, baby, honey, it's okay. People fall
the time, Honey, it's all right, get back up, you
got it. Yeah. That was the first kind of notice
of her feeling like she was embarrassed, which then made
me want to cry and then also feel bad about
the fact that I just laughed her two seconds earlier
because she was just being such a brat, And I'm like, oh,
(43:47):
foret horrible. I mean, I love it, but the whole
embarrassed feeling is. I mean, I'll to this day, we'll
not forget the day that my brother, it was his
fifth grade recital at his school or they or the
play that they do for the parents and everybody else.
(44:07):
My brother stepped onto the stage and he fell. It's
not funny to it to this day. I mean, my
brothers in fifth grade, which means I was in second grade,
and I remember this like it was yesterday. It's been
the one memory that has stood with me since growing
up because my my brother, who I love more than anything,
(44:30):
he tripped. He had this cowboy hat on. The cowboy
hat fell off of him. Everyone started laughing, and I
started crying because I felt so bad for him because
I knew how embarrassed he was. And I'm just picturing
a little Dylan right now or nephew. Yeah, he's just
a little Steve. Yeah. So I just like, I will
never forget that. And I bet you my brother doesn't
(44:50):
even remember that, but I do. It's that where I
just remember. I know he was embarrassed. I could see
it in his eyes, and I started crying because I
felt bad for him because I knew he was embarrassed
and being embarrasses. So, I mean, my mom tripped on
the stairs going up rumor like one of those restaurants,
and she was she started started crying. It's like, it's
so so hard to be like the feeling of being embarrassed.
(45:13):
You know, do you get embarrassed, like I really don't.
You don't when I was younger, Yeah, I mean everyone
younger gets embarrassed. But now you were embarrassed when you
couldn't figure out how to put the car seat or
the stroller thing together. That wasn't And I don't know
(45:33):
if that was embarrassment that maybe maybe that was the
closest to embarrass I felt in a long time, which
was just ridiculous. I looked like that dad who doesn't
have a clue. This is in l A. And I
have both kids and we're parking at Valet off of
Rodeo there. I think we're meeting you for lunch. Yeah,
(45:54):
we're meeting for lunch. And it was a new stroller
and I hadn't used it yet or know, I know,
it's one that we hadn't used in a while, and
so I was so used to the other one and
how it opened and clothes I was sitting there at Valet,
I got Jolie's like crying, like wanting something. I've Jason
the car seat. There's like four cars lined up behind
(46:14):
me waiting for this a hole to get out of
the way so they can park their car. And I'm
sitting here trying to like pull the cars at the
stroller apart. And I was like, I could not figure
it out. And I was just like every car behind
me is like, oh, dad has his first day with
the kids by himself. He can't handle it, you know.
So yes, I think that was embarrassment because I was like,
(46:35):
and even though no one was saying anything, I just
wanted to look at every car is like, I know
what I'm doing. I'm actually a great father. I can
sac o. I hope people get that reference better better.
So you've been embarrassed, Yes, I know, I know you're
(46:58):
I know yours. That is a story that will be
taking to the grave even maybe I could tell it.
Do I say it? Because it's so embarrassing. It's probably
the most It is by far the most embarrassing thing
I've ever been through my entire life. And I've always
said I would take it to my grave, but now
I feel like, maybe I should take it to the
(47:19):
Do I take it to the grave? No, I think
you should. If Mark was here, he'd be like, Wow, Danna, Dad,
Papa Mark. Yeah, I think you should tell the people
that you will produce the heck out of it. But
I don't know. I'm embarrassed. I'm actually like genuinely embarrassed.
Do you do you get embarrassed? Do I get embarrassed
(47:40):
all the time? Really? I mean, I haven't had a situation.
I'm trying to think the last time I actually got embarrassed.
You know, I get embarrassed when I say things that
I don't mean. So if I'm talking to some more diiffer,
I'm playing a show and I say something trying to
be funny and it's not funny, I get embarrassed. That's
(48:01):
when That's when I get embarrassed. So that's that is
that is where I come. Then I just shut up
by you laughing. You know what I'm talking about? What
you're talking about? Yeah, But yeah, I don't. I just
don't know what I would get embarrassed about. Like, I
(48:21):
don't really get nervous. I'm really embarrassed. That's just kind
of how I've been since I've been an adult. But anyways,
so back to your story. Please tell the people, Yes,
I mean, I mean, just be ready for for our
our boy over there at US Weekly. I mean, if
(48:45):
you want that to be the headline please by all
means you're right, I'm not gonna say it. People are
gonna be dying to hear it now. I'm not ready.
It's so bad Eastan is about to get this story
behind the scenes. I just don't think because we think
they'd actually run that. Probably I would. That's so embarrassing. Yeah,
(49:13):
I'd probably Wait. Okay, man, we're talking about a tease.
What we did te I mean it's tease. Maybe I'll
talk her into it next week. I don't think it's
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do some at home podcasts, um because we do live
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guests to our house. We're going to do some phone
ins from l A. So today was just a get
(52:06):
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and learned something along the way for this podcast. And uh,
I'm sorry, I'm not going to bust my bubble on
the most embarrassing story, but it's it's that bad. But
maybe if you guys send me in your most embarrassing stories,
it will make me feel better. So wind down at
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You're gonna be talking about me fantastic to UM. This
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has been great there because I got chance and waffles.
Just laying by my feet, just hanging out. Kids are upstairs.
They went straight to bed. They did They did great,
no struggle all right now Mom wants to get to bed.
I love you,
Wind down and Michael Cochlin and I have heard radio podcast.
It's our first recording International house, Crazy, so insane and sweet.
Easton is slumber partying it with us. It's um, I
know you guys are listening to this Monday morning, but
(00:22):
real time right now for us. It's a nasty thunderstorm
outside and but I kind of love it. I love
Michael's yawning. So this is gonna be a great episode. No,
I just I had love a good thunderstorm. I'm scared
to drive in thunderstorms, but I like being at home
in the screen and porch. I think, yes, driving in
(00:45):
a thunderstorm isn't fun, but being in the car, like
when you're a kid and your parents are driving the thunderstorm,
it's just something cozy about it, so cozy I'll never forget.
I know Katherine's listened to this. So I was in
a car. We were going to pick up a dog,
and dog, um the boxer that I had. Channas had
more dogs and I can't remember. This is where dogs
(01:07):
come to pass on no stop but no. So I
we were going to pick up this dog and Katherine
was driving, and it started to get like this really
scary looking weather where it was like you're on the expressway,
what do you do? So I'm like Catherine ball over
(01:28):
and I was like screaming a passenger. It was the passenger,
Why are you freaking out so much? Because there was
about to be a tornado? Like it was a funnel cloud.
It was terrifying. So we pulled over and went into
a gas station. But that's just my biggest did you
spot the funnel cloud? Okay, I swear it's in the
five coming our way. We gotta get off. No, I truly,
I'm obviously a big fan of Twister, but no, I
(01:50):
literally you know, remember that one time to where the
sirens were going off and I wouldn't go get I
wouldn't go to CVS. I mean technically you shouldn't anyways
because the are going off, But no, I mean I
just I don't know. I get really scared thunderstorms when
I'm driving. I mean, you just had to come out
and run out of our room and like screamed for
(02:11):
me and say, Michael, is our window going to cave in?
Well it was doing that, Like, yeah, there's just thunder
I know. I love it though, it's very crazy. Yeah,
it's really a hidden that's around in the house. So
I'm trying to catch them. But the move has been
so exciting. Yeah, and not going on. Yeah, it's been fun.
It's been stressful, but it has been fun, even though
(02:31):
we still have so much more to do. And poor
Easton sleeping on so our producer Amy was like, we'll
put Eastern up in a hotel and like, no, Easton
has to stay with us. But then now he's literally
sleeping on the ground, mattress on the ground. He did
you see how I put the headboard though, so it
kind of feels like he's he's gonna be real bad.
It's an optical illusion. Yeah, it totally is. But we're
(02:54):
happy are here Eastern things. Yes, having any other way,
but no, it's really it's interesting. It's it's feels weird
to be in the house. A lot of people have
asked about the leak. Um if the leak has been
fixed again. I find out about business in our life
via my friends and family members because they text me
about there's a leak in your house. I'm like, how
(03:14):
do you even know? And then even though this has
happened a thousand times, Oh, Jane instagramed, Uh so, yeah,
so I guess you instagram. You know. Well, people say that,
you know, you have to be really careful of mold,
and so that freaks me out because I don't want
because mold can make you so sick kids, adults, so
(03:37):
I'm fearful of that. So a lot of people were like,
make sure you check because mold can grow so incredibly fast.
So that was one of their main concerns. And then
they said that maybe the flashing wasn't right in the windows.
So what did the builders say? It was the windows.
So they fixed it that night and then the window
company came out the next day just to make sure.
(03:58):
Oh so they didn't repatch it. No, they did repatch it.
Oh they did. Okay, So I was, okay, we're gonna
be okay, We're not going to drown in a house. Yeah,
but it's it's it's been cool. It's uh, you know,
it's it's a change being back here. We do miss
our little, you know, a little humble house in Los Angeles.
And when Jolie has to the other night, Jolie was
(04:22):
being a complete b word and having to send her
to the Beautiful Baby, having to send her to her
room over and over again and assisting her in that
going up and down, up and down the stairs was interesting.
You know, I never thought I would miss square feet,
but I missed fourteen ft. It's like, wow, we really
(04:42):
don't need that much. It's okay, Yeah, it was great
and I kind of miss I missed that, I missed
the I was telling Julie this the other day. I
was like, I miss kind of that comfy, cozy feeling. Yeah,
we're you're you're kind of on top of each other
and everyone. You just feel kind of connected and yeah,
because there's nowhere else to go. Yeah, last night we're
(05:03):
leaving and supper butts, welcome to the Cossin House. Is
that a way to start it off? Our second night
now sleeping? Sleeping? Oh, way to just start a good
time coming on? But that's inevitable. Not all relationships are perfect. No,
(05:29):
So anyways, you said you wanted to bring something up,
So there's something interesting and we'll get back more on
the move and everything. But so I was at by
the way you're talking in a very like jazzy like.
So anyways, that's just I think it's I think part
of me is trying to be quiet because the kids
are sleeping. So it's like I'm trying to keep because
my voice carries, right, it has, you know, so it
(05:50):
carries even if I'm trying to be quiet. Maybe it's
just naturally fallen into the smooth jazz. I need your
energy to be a little more up there. But do
you want me await the kids? They're sleeping, Okay, alright,
So anyway, so something I wanted to bring up, which
I thought this this topic is of sensitive nature, and
(06:11):
I don't I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers and
piss anybody off. This is just me being curious about
this topic. So I was at home Depot like the
second day we got here, because I needed every single
day since we like moved into this house, because I'll
be like, hey we need this later, Hey I need
(06:33):
a screwdriver, Hey I need and this is sorry to
cut you off, but he'll say, hey, I'm going to
home depot. Five hours later he comes home and I
was like, do you just stand in every single aisle
and go I kind of do. It's like when you
go to the grocery store and you don't really know
what you're gonna get, you so you just kind of
meander down every aisle. I was. I'm kind of that
way at home deepot. I'm like, I know I only
(06:53):
need this in this, but let me take a look
in plumbing. There's nothing to do in plumbing. I'll never
do anything in plumbing, but let me do just take
a look see if there's anything I need. So I
was in home depot and I had to get a
new grill for the house. And I asked a gentleman.
I was like, Hey, is there anyone in the grill
section that can help me? They're like, yeah, Sarah's over
there and can give your hands. Said okay, great, So
(07:14):
I walk over. You're telling this story, yeah, because I
think I think it's interesting. So I walked over and
there Sarah and it was a gentleman. Okay, I mean
it looked like, talked like, walked like a male at
a five o'clock shadow, mustache and all. But his name
(07:37):
was just Sarah. His name is Sarah, and uh was
he being a Sarah or was he a Sarah? Justs Hey, Mike, Like,
so I have a friend named Stacy. He's very straight Stacy.
So is this a straight Stacy or no? This is
a from my perspective, because they also had a pride
pin on there. I come deep a vest was someone
(07:59):
who was transitioning maybe into a woman. So I mean
no issue at all. I was like, hey, Sarah, you
know whatever, and so this is where like even just
saying it now like her at our time, do do
I say she? Because like and when I when I
(08:21):
think I wanted to thank her or him, I want,
I want to say like yes ma'am or yes sir,
and I didn't know what to say. We're just like
I was just like, yes, Sarah, thank you, and she
or he was very very helpful and it was great,
(08:43):
and it was it was out of It wasn't me
by being naive. It was just me being maybe hyper
sensitive because I didn't want to offend them in any way.
I just I didn't know you're saying them though? Is
that people already take that offensively saying them, Uh, what
do you mean? So you're I don't want to offend them.
So even no matter how people are so hypersensitive about
(09:05):
this topic to the big you're just calling us them.
Well that but that's that's my thing of just saying,
but I also don't want to I don't want me
to make the decision whether it's a he or she,
that's up to Sarah, right, So how but how do
I know? Like so it wasn't like a Stacy like
where he wasn't like like Stacy is like very your
(09:26):
football player Stacy. So it wasn't like he was looks
like he was transitioning to be a girl. Yes, okay,
so like the hair that said, yes, it definitely looked
at but you knew it was a man. So your
question is what how do you say because you because
because we do say thank you, ma'am, thank you sir.
So it's like, what do you say just can you
just say just thank you? Yes? Yes. But that's that's
(09:48):
why what made me think about this whole topic, because
you said we we always say kind of yes sir,
yes ma'am to people, and you know we've we talked
about on a show about having the kids say yes ma'am,
yes sir. And so it's just one of those things
you just brought up the conversation topic in my head
of what does he or she like? How does how
does it just a random person someone like me or
(10:11):
someone like you or someone like Easton how do we
approach that or how do what's the what's the correct way? Like?
What what? I'm even hypersensitive when you say a random person,
So they're not a random So that's that's I'm just random.
It could be another it could be someone else who's transitioning.
Random persons, you just pick them out of a hat.
It doesn't matter. We should get Caitlyn Jenner on the show.
(10:32):
We should or someone that has either is transitioning like
that would be a very interesting conversation because it's a
great idea. Honey, we I think a lot of people
maybe want to know that because that is more of
an ongoing not ongoing. How do I say that? That's
you have to be so politic like I don't want
to say anything wrong. You have to be careful with
(10:55):
how you choose your words right, right, And that's all
it is. It's it's it's an ongoing transition for people.
Where it's we're more aware of it, right because people
are speaking out a bit about it. People are are
being more open and honest about it. But why do
you have to identify as one or the other? I
guess that's my question. Why can't you just say thank you? Like,
(11:15):
why do I have to identify them? Yeah, like why
does it have to be one or the other? It doesn't,
It doesn't, but that I'm not saying it does. I'm
just saying it sparked my curiosity on someone in that situation,
who's transitioning, What what they prefer like? What? Like? What? Yeah?
Just what would they prefer? Like? What would offend them?
(11:37):
What wouldn't? Like would if someone's in transition, would they
be offended if you said sir? Wouldn't addressed like a female?
If I said sir even though his or her name
was Sarah and look like here she was transitioning? Or
would they be offended if I said, ma'am, even though
he or she looks like a male, but the name
(11:59):
is Sarah. Uh here is a certain way they probably
like whatever. So it's just it's just one of the
things I'm just curious because because I want to be
sensitive to people's feelings, because I want to be able
to call them what they want to be called, because
they deserve that, you know, whoever, and I say they
as whoever is transitioning, deserve to be called whatever they
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want to be called. So it's just it's but like
you said, I think it's a great idea to get someone,
whether it's a Caitlyn Jenner or someone who is in transition,
to come on and talk about it, so to just
to educate, because that's a lot of us aren't educated. Yeah,
I know that's true. And a lot of people too.
We had, um, we had a gig guy come up
(12:40):
to us saying that we should talk about this. So
I think that's definitely an interesting topic that we should
talk about. Yeah, I think so too. I'm curious to
people's opinions too, So email at wind down at my
heart radio dot com. Good topic, Thank you, and then
now let's take a break. Sure, all right, now that
we're in the new house, we are so happy that
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a lot of my Instagram direct messages and this um girl,
Tori wrote me, and she goes Janna, I have a
suggestion of a topic for wine Down. I'd love to
hear what you, Mike and his friends have to say
about this. My friends and I have dealt with our
boyfriends following so many hot sexy girls on Instagram. It
(14:28):
really makes us feel uncomfortable and self conscious. Obviously, we
have all talked to our boyfriends and they'll say they
deleted them, or we'll delete them and slowly follow some back.
What are your thoughts on this interesting floor is yours?
Don't go? Go right ahead? Said, and my friends like
(14:49):
what my friends think of it? Yeah? I mean what
you know, we can say like maybe what Ethan thinks
of it? You know? Um? Okay, okay, since you're trying
to find your words. What if what if I on
my Instagram? You went on my page and I followed
(15:11):
a bunch of sexy guys that were, you know, sexy
and had their shirt off a lot descriptive, and you know,
you're on my phone or you're seeing my Instagram and
you're seeing me going through my feed and it's all
these sexy guys. Would something come up for you? Are
(15:35):
they sexy? They're sexy? Like they're they're they're like, you know, sexy. Okay,
I got like, like what you know? Uh, Like I
was gonna name someone, but like you, I don't need
to name anybody. So I'm just saying, you know, I
don't know. No, but I'm just saying, damn it, Tory, no,
(16:00):
um no no no. But but how would that make
you feel, so I think it's a double standard, And
unfortunately that's what I think this is. The Instagram thing
is a double standard because I think it's guys are
like whatever, like, yeah, I'm following this sexy workout model.
But if a girl was to be following that sexy
(16:20):
workout guy, is that a double standard? Is that okay?
Should you be following people that you are looking at
in a sexy way and thinking, wow, they're sexy when
you're in a relationship? What are you? Why are you
grinning like that they're smiling? Um? First, I mean life
(16:42):
is a double standard. I mean there's so many double
standards and it's not fair. And to truthfully answer your question, yes,
like you know, I don't have any social media. If
I've looked over while you're going through your feet and
I just saw shirtless guys left and right, then they'll
be like what, like what isnt this? Do you have
following that you know? And I think the same breath
(17:03):
for guys where it's like like why why would you
follow this Instagram model? Does she promote something that you like?
Does like does she have a political view that you like? No? No,
she's just half naked, right, so there's no like, there's
no there's no other reason to follow somebody like that
(17:27):
other for other than the intrigue, the aesthetic intrigue of it.
So so in Tori's thing, does she have a point
to be upset? And yeah, because if if that's how
it makes her feel and that's you know, then she
has the right to feel that way, and she has
(17:48):
the right to tell him like, look, this makes me
feel uncomfortable. Now there are I'm sure there are relationships
just like you know, if we talk to people that
have an open relationship or this or that, Okay, if
that works for them, fine. There's probably some people that
they don't care who the other one follows because their
relationship is fine, there's no issues or whatever, and they
(18:08):
just mind their own business and they follow who they
want to follow. So I'm not I'm not sitting here
saying that nobody should do that, because there's relationships that
probably both of them do it and they're fine with it.
But majority speaking, yes, I think it's an issue because
what's the point. Well, going back to you know, your
(18:29):
page when we first started dating, I mean, you were
following really pretty girls. Why is that really a problem? Though?
It's not are you really following? Do guys really follow
the pretty girls because they get that endorphin hit of
usci sexy for a second while you're while you're swiping through. Yeah,
I think it's just something to look at because I mean,
(18:49):
you know, you go through that stuff so quick, right,
and so you just go and scroll and scroll and scrolling,
and you see it, okay, and then you go that
keep going, go the next thing, whether a news thing,
whether the sport thing with it, whether it you know,
an attractive woman, whatever it may be. Like people, that's
just people are in our generation scroll, you know, so
(19:10):
back when I have social media before you and I
like even but you know what I mean, like, yeah,
I mean, you know, in my opinion, in our opinion,
we don't think there's a place for it. And I
think Tori has a reason or has a legitimate it.
You know, she's allowed to be upset by it. But
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here's to switch it though, So you're not allowed to
look at an attractive person when they walk by. I'm
not saying that. It's kind of the same as Instagram.
You can't control if someone attractive walks by you. If
you just happen to if you happen to we walk
in one direction, another attractive person is walking in the
opposite direction. You can control who you follow on social media.
(19:59):
You can control who you look at on social media,
So I think that's a difference. One is a natural occurrence.
One is something that is in your hands. What do
you think about guys that look at other girls when
they're with their girlfriends or wives, because that is that
is the number one thing that makes me so annoyed
when guys do that, because it's just guys. When a
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girl walks with a guy, they're not staring at the
other guy. But when when you're telling me what that
when you've dated people in the past and you're with them,
if he's saw an attractive man, I don't not when
I'm like holding the person's hand and walking through them
all like this just happened the other day and I'm walking,
Oh no, it was in the airport and this guy
(20:44):
was with with his wife or girlfriend, whoever it was,
and he's stairs and I'm like, sure me, or maybe
you're staring to me. You weren't there. I was struggling
by myself. So it just that just bothers me because
I don't. I don't like that for the girl, And
I'm like, why are you looking? Why are you looking
(21:05):
at someone else? How much do you want to just
blow his spot up in that moment? Oh more than anything?
Like why are you looking at me? And it's not
because I'm whatever, Like he doesn't freaking know I'm Alex
from One Tree Hill like he you're regardless of your career,
you're a beautiful woman. But I'm just saying I don't
like it when a guy does that because I think
it's so disrespectful to the girl that he's standing next
(21:28):
to you. If he wasn't walking next to his significant
other and he looked at you, would that be an issue.
Maybe he's just looking, like to see where he's going.
So now it's it's now it's he's just looking at
something past. I still don't think you should. I still
I just feel like, when if you're in a relationship
and you're married, you should. You shouldn't be walking around
and looking. If you happen to look up and you're
(21:50):
at a Starbucks and you look in line, I'm looking
at Eastern right now? O. Hey given it like a
little nod. But when they blatantly are walking and kind
of look to you renecking, then yeah, in no way.
But I feel like a lot of married men and
in relationship people guys do that. It's so obvious. I mean,
I've keep doing it before, you know what I mean,
(22:12):
And you're like, I'm just looking, But I mean it's
just I think it's just a guy thing. I'm not
like trying to like throw you under the rug. I
just think it's a it's a double standard guy thing.
And I don't understand. And if the guy's point of
either like, oh, we're just looking, you're telling you're telling
me that there aren't women out there that have done
the same thing. I don't think it's obvious because you
guys are just better at it. Sure, there was one
(22:35):
time that I did a bad job one time, and
you probably can name that. One time I did a
really bad job. Were we together? We were together and
I did a really bad job of it, a terrible job.
Where was it? You know? It was an l A.
I don't remember who was it. He was trying to
find his dog Jason what No, No, remember the guy
(23:04):
that was going down the street in his car. That
is the one time I did it wrong that was
funny because I called you all out. You're right, But
that's the thing, like that was the one time I
did it wrong. So I was with my girlfriend, Sarah,
Sarah Boyd, who is you know, one of my dearest friends.
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giving me some boxes and this guy pulls up in
(23:45):
his car and he's like, hey, have you seen my
dog Willow or something? And you were out there with us,
but I had I had either just come outside or
I just pulled up. No, that's what it was. I
just pulled up. I just pulled up and I was
getting out of the car and you guys were talking
to him, and he was like in like a dope
(24:06):
range rover or something. I think the sun was shining
only on him. It was cloudy everywhere else in l
A that day, and he just I mean talking about world.
I mean, he was handsome and so way. No, no, no, no,
So he's like, do you know where your dog Willow? Like,
have you seen my dog Willow? I don't know if
(24:27):
that was the name, but I saw two speechless grown
women acting like thirteen year old girls. No. No, We're like,
oh no, you lost your dog. We're so sorry. And
I think the dog was like three legged rescue that
you know, no, but he was just like so concerned
and we're like, oh, I'm We're so sorry. And then honey,
have you seen a dog running around? And you know,
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Mike's like no, but you know, man, we'll be looking
for it. That was Jane's way of trying to include me,
and on this conversation was hey, oh honey, honey your home.
Oh by the way, that this lovely man is looking
for his dog. And I into the window and see
this what this guy looks like. And I was just
like okay. And so he drives away and I was like,
that was a it was a really nice car. I
(25:11):
really liked that car. And he was like, but I
couldn't find the words. I was just saying, that was
a really nice he was that was a really nice,
gorgeous car. And well, it's funny because you and Sarah
do you want of you you didn't really know what
to say, and so I said for you. I literally
(25:32):
said it for you guys. I was like, look, he
was handsome. I get it, Like it's okay, Like I
said it for you guys, and then you kind of
loosened up like yeah, he kind of was. But then
we're like willow, willow willo. Yeah. That was that was
the one day. I mean he left you speechless. We
(25:53):
were just like that nice, nice car. He's like, yeah,
he was handsome, Like yeah, okay, that's I mean, that's
the thing is So that's circling back. I think it's
just one of those things where it's if it's an
instance like that where you're just right and you and I.
You and I have talked about this like early on
(26:13):
with everything that we've been through, you know, and you
worried about me looking at people or whatever it may be.
I'm like, and we finally were able to get to
a place where I had the conversations like, look, attractive
people exist in this world, like you said, if it's
something that just platonically happens where you look up and
someone's in front of you a Starbucks or or whatever,
but if you seek it out or rubber neck. That's different.
(26:34):
That's disrespectful. That's um, what's the word I'm looking for,
Um objectifying, you know what I mean? That's objectifying when
you when you hold that, that gives that long. So
it's then instagram objective objectifying or people objectify themselves on Instagram.
That's the whole thing about it. Yeah, So I mean again,
(26:56):
I think it's a relationship by relationship basis. Ultimately, I
don't see the reason why people would have to follow
those kind of people. Eastern. Do you follow any attractive
women on Instagram? I've follow some women who art I
admire another Janna Kramer your intertractive women, Janna Kramer, I
(27:19):
follow you, right, But what does your wife feel about that?
I mean before, when we were dating, in the early
stages of dating, I was following some some ladies that
just look nice. And I also told me she didn't
like that, and so I didn't followed them. Yes, and
I can understand that. So Tor, that's what a man
(27:41):
should do if you feel uncomfortable, and if you're feeling insecure,
it's okay to say, hey, this makes me uncomfortable, knowing
that you're looking at right, And I think that's that's
within anyone's boundaries of their relationship. It's one thing if
Tory or somebody else was like, I want you off
social media, like I don't want you to. I don't
want you have any social media. Or you can't follow
(28:02):
any girls, you can't follow any girls at all. My
friend or she's my friend, or I like this actress
because whatever, you know what I mean, not because they're
putting themselves out there, but because you know whatever. So again,
she's within her boundaries to address that. Anybody is, as
long as you're not trying to control again, then having
social media at all. It's very interesting, but it was interesting.
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You know, I had a therapy session and I said,
sometimes I feel like a fraud. Sometimes I feel like
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we give all this relationship advice, but then yeah, we
don't listen to our own advice. And I started to
just like cry, and you know, she said to me,
she goes, do you think that I do it perfect?
She was, I'm a therapist and my husband and I
just had a huge fight two nights ago, and those
(30:37):
thoughts always go through my head while I'm telling my
patients to say this and to do this, but yet
I'm not doing it. So but for me, for some reason,
I just struggle with that because I think, all right,
we're just how are we giving advice when we have
we're still so aft? Do you know the old saying
those who can't teach, that's the same for reason. Okay,
(31:01):
but first of all, side sidebar, how much do you
love that this new therapist got personal with you? And yeah,
she was great. I really liked her a lot. It
was you know, I definitely liked her more than my
last therapist I had in l A just because I
like to have that kind of cross talk and that
we were able to have an actual conversation where it
didn't feel like a therapist, just being like, so, how
does that make you feel? It's She was like, yeah, no,
(31:23):
my husband and I we got into a huge fight
before we had this big supper club dinner and we
had to figure out how to reconnect and it wasn't
until you know, one of us really owned our stuff
and that, you know. So it was just it was
nice to be able to have that kind of conversation
with someone who can relate. Yeah, are bad. I mean
(31:44):
I get what you're saying about the feeling of being
a fraud, But again, how many times have we disclaimed
we're not experts, we don't have this figured out, you know,
and we're not necessarily teaching. We're just sharing it has
and has not worked for us, you know what I mean?
I don't I don't think of ourselves as teachers. I
(32:06):
think we're just we're a resource and a platform for
people to not feel alone and all the crap that
they have to go through, you know, and it's they
have the same effect on us everyone that listens to this,
you know, and all the comments and and support and
questions and all that helps us not feel so alone
and all the ft up stuff that we deal with.
(32:29):
Um No, but it was rough and to be our
second night in the house together and and have a
blow up like we did. I mean, it's been a
long time since it got like that, you know, and
that was really hard. I mean both of us were
heartbroken this morning over it. And you know, I do
want to say I commend you and appreciate you and
(32:52):
your ability to meet me in a good place when
I got home today, you know, because in the past
that wouldn't always happen. It would, you know, want some person.
Usually you wouldn't be ready because it was me that
had to come back and you know, initiate the connection
(33:13):
and the reconnection or the apology. But I appreciate you
being willing to listen, oh, on your side of things,
and then for us to try to move forward. What's
going on right now? Oh No, I'm just saying no,
I agree. Yeah, it's just it's just it was just
(33:34):
so sad. But Nashville just holds a lot of energy,
so we're trying to bring in new energy. It's just
very hard because, like my therapist said, it's very you know,
grieving isn't a straight line. It's kind of like a
corkscrew and you kind of go in and out of
the the corkscrew and it's um. It's just it's hard,
(33:55):
especially coming back into the place of the the explosion, right. So,
I think it's you know, trying to go through those
feelings and figure it out in a healthy space can
be kind of hard, you know. I think it was
my therapist. I think it's my therapist that said this
in my men's group or something one time, and it
(34:17):
was like, you wouldn't expect somebody who just lost lost
their mother, or lost a child, or lost a loved
one like to a death. You wouldn't expect them to
rush their grieving process, would you. You know what I mean?
No matter when it was, no matter if it was
(34:37):
years down the road, months down the road, or a
few days later. Like you, people are able to usually
with stuff like that, be able to understand instantly where
you know, with this situation that stuff can kind of
come out of left field with you know, the scars
(34:59):
and in our history. So you know, that's something that
I kind of thought of earlier today, was remembering what
my therapist said of you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't
rush you if you were talking about a loved one.
If you're grieving a loved one, Grief is grief. It's
the same across the board. So there's no difference really
(35:21):
between it's just the subject of what you're grieving. So
it's you know, and by no means am I trying
to rush you? It was I trying to rush you,
And I don't think you have that that thought of
me trying to do that. But like I said earlier today,
when we're trying to reconnect, is I need to be
better at dissecting kind of how you're feeling or what's
(35:45):
coming out of your mouth and being like, okay, this
this seems familiar. I know this pattern. But that's also
not a job to have to read me the line. No,
and I'm not saying it is. But I can be
better at that. I can be more conscious of that
and if I'm not the ultimate thing is allow you
(36:08):
the space and latitude to handle it however you need
to handle it. If that means get angry, you get angry.
If that means get upset, that means if you even
you have to vent and say something mean, give you
the latitude and grace to do that and be your
your steady support. Yeah, you know, but because ultimately you
(36:31):
should say this is how I'm feeling, and this is
what But sometimes people can't deliver it hatway all the time.
So no, and nor should you be expected to, especially
when we just get back. You know, it would be
different if this was if we're in l A right
now and it happened like that kind of out of
nowhere on a topic, or you ask some questions about
(36:54):
nothing relevant, then that would probably would have been a
bigger issue. But it's completely understandable here. You know fresh,
Yeah it's super fresh, But it's just you know, that's
anyone who's in my position, whether it the male or
the female, you know you need to do a better
(37:14):
job than I do in those situations because my defense
is to attack back. That is just my how I've
been my whole life is when I feel attacked, I
attacked back, and I attacked harder. Yeah, you're well, so
it's you know, it's not something I'm proud of. And
(37:36):
more times than not, I handle it the incorrect way.
And there are those times that I do handle it
the correct way. And we just had one recently in
l A, you know, and it's it's funny. I was
at my twelfth step meeting earlier today. It's the same
one that I used to go to when we're in Nashville,
and I saw some guys that remembered me and that
(37:58):
I remembered them, and I was talking to one of
them after, and you know, I shared about the stuff
that kind of we went through last night in the meeting,
and it was the same guy that I still remember
him saying this a couple of years ago in a
meeting at the same place in Nashville, and he was like,
I'm so tired of saying I'm sorry, and not not
(38:21):
for what he did to cause the riff in the relationship,
not the infidelity, not for saying sorry for the big stuff.
It's I'm sorry sorry. I'm tired of saying sorry for
making things worse. And I told him that today I
was like, dude, I remember you saying years ago, and
I was like, that's how I felt today. I was like,
(38:41):
I am, I'm tired of saying sorry for I'm sorry
for not handling this better, I'm sorry for reacting, I'm
sorry for saying this is this thing me, And I'm
sorry for you know that. You know. So it's ultimately
it's because I don't want you to not feel safe.
I want you to feel safe and why won't you
feel that I'm your rock? But also for me, I'm tired.
(39:04):
I'm tired to saying sorry. I'm tired to be saying
sorry to Can you just be nice? It would be nice.
But you know, the the optimistic part of me is,
like we talked about earlier, I mean, we wish this
didn't have to happen at all. I know, I kind
(39:24):
of made the comment about it being inevitable because we
didn't really know how much weight it was going to
carry until we were in it, and unfortunately we got
in it like that, you know. So now that it
happened as quickly as it did, the silver lining from
(39:46):
from my point of view is, Okay, this will help me.
I can learn from this. This will help me a
lot moving forward to consider, you know, to be consistent
and vigilant and staying steady, not putting myself in a
position where I have to say sorry for anything new,
(40:08):
and just creating safety for you in a place that
you didn't feel safe for a long time. Hm. Well,
I'll drink to that. I would like that. Hey, let's
lighten it up a little bit. Give me a parent confession.
(40:30):
Apparent apparent confession. Mm hmm. Today's parent confession. This week's
parent confession. We should do it every week. This week's
parent confession is you know, I'll say I was just
(40:52):
saying I actually had mine is so bad. I had
one that I was gonna like even bring up to you,
pat like naturally. The other day I was gonna say, hey,
I was like kind of really short with Jolie, like
really short with her, and I got mad at her
really quick. The other day. I don't remember what for.
(41:14):
It was just she was, you know, she's in her
three nager stage where it's just challenges everything, and with
the all the movie and everything, it was one of
those that afterwards, I felt like bad, I felt sad,
and it really it actually really bothered me. I'm like
my sweet girl was just trying to figure things out,
and I was just I was short with her, and
(41:34):
it really made me sad. It makes me sad right now.
I don't know you can do better. I mean you
can well honestly. I mean that's why I like tonight
when I was giving her bath and she like, I
did better tonight. You know I did better tonight. And
I didn't get mad at her. I didn't, you know,
(41:57):
at all. I just, you know, her thing to kind
of stop for her. What she does to make us
stop asking her to do what we want is she's like,
well I want to hug, right and the other the
other night when I was short with her, I was like, no, Jolie,
we have to do this. You know. It's like she's
asking for a hug m hm. And tonight I got stopped.
(42:21):
Every time she wanted to hug. I was like, Okay,
come me, baby, go give me hug. So I just
I didn't I made it for it tonight. But yeah,
I think every parent can relate to that though, where
you just it's a long day and you just want
to go to bed. You just want to put them
in their bed and so you're not alone in that feeling.
(42:42):
I'm sure a lot of other people have felt the
same way. Yeah, I'm sure what was yours. Julie felt
today at school and I laughed inside because she was
making such a brat and she fell, and I was like,
that's what you get. Yeah. But then I felt bad
(43:02):
afterwards because I think she was embarrassed. So I think
she started I know, then I felt bad. I didn't.
I laughed internally. I was like, uh huh, I know,
so that's and she kind of looked and I was like,
baby girl, it's okay. So the second I felt that
I went straight to it was it was a split
second that you deserved it too, to oh you. And
(43:24):
I saw her look when she saw miss Holly, and
I was like, oh, baby, honey, it's okay. People fall
the time, Honey, it's all right, get back up, you
got it. Yeah. That was the first kind of notice
of her feeling like she was embarrassed, which then made
me want to cry and then also feel bad about
the fact that I just laughed her two seconds earlier
because she was just being such a brat, And I'm like, oh,
(43:47):
foret horrible. I mean, I love it, but the whole
embarrassed feeling is. I mean, I'll to this day, we'll
not forget the day that my brother, it was his
fifth grade recital at his school or they or the
play that they do for the parents and everybody else.
(44:07):
My brother stepped onto the stage and he fell. It's
not funny to it to this day. I mean, my
brothers in fifth grade, which means I was in second grade,
and I remember this like it was yesterday. It's been
the one memory that has stood with me since growing
up because my my brother, who I love more than anything,
(44:30):
he tripped. He had this cowboy hat on. The cowboy
hat fell off of him. Everyone started laughing, and I
started crying because I felt so bad for him because
I knew how embarrassed he was. And I'm just picturing
a little Dylan right now or nephew. Yeah, he's just
a little Steve. Yeah. So I just like, I will
never forget that. And I bet you my brother doesn't
(44:50):
even remember that, but I do. It's that where I
just remember. I know he was embarrassed. I could see
it in his eyes, and I started crying because I
felt bad for him because I knew he was embarrassed
and being embarrasses. So, I mean, my mom tripped on
the stairs going up rumor like one of those restaurants,
and she was she started started crying. It's like, it's
so so hard to be like the feeling of being embarrassed.
(45:13):
You know, do you get embarrassed, like I really don't.
You don't when I was younger, Yeah, I mean everyone
younger gets embarrassed. But now you were embarrassed when you
couldn't figure out how to put the car seat or
the stroller thing together. That wasn't And I don't know
(45:33):
if that was embarrassment that maybe maybe that was the
closest to embarrass I felt in a long time, which
was just ridiculous. I looked like that dad who doesn't
have a clue. This is in l A. And I
have both kids and we're parking at Valet off of
Rodeo there. I think we're meeting you for lunch. Yeah,
(45:54):
we're meeting for lunch. And it was a new stroller
and I hadn't used it yet or know, I know,
it's one that we hadn't used in a while, and
so I was so used to the other one and
how it opened and clothes I was sitting there at Valet,
I got Jolie's like crying, like wanting something. I've Jason
the car seat. There's like four cars lined up behind
(46:14):
me waiting for this a hole to get out of
the way so they can park their car. And I'm
sitting here trying to like pull the cars at the
stroller apart. And I was like, I could not figure
it out. And I was just like every car behind
me is like, oh, dad has his first day with
the kids by himself. He can't handle it, you know.
So yes, I think that was embarrassment because I was like,
(46:35):
and even though no one was saying anything, I just
wanted to look at every car is like, I know
what I'm doing. I'm actually a great father. I can
sac o. I hope people get that reference better better.
So you've been embarrassed, Yes, I know, I know you're
(46:58):
I know yours. That is a story that will be
taking to the grave even maybe I could tell it.
Do I say it? Because it's so embarrassing. It's probably
the most It is by far the most embarrassing thing
I've ever been through my entire life. And I've always
said I would take it to my grave, but now
I feel like, maybe I should take it to the
(47:19):
Do I take it to the grave? No, I think
you should. If Mark was here, he'd be like, Wow, Danna, Dad,
Papa Mark. Yeah, I think you should tell the people
that you will produce the heck out of it. But
I don't know. I'm embarrassed. I'm actually like genuinely embarrassed.
Do you do you get embarrassed? Do I get embarrassed
(47:40):
all the time? Really? I mean, I haven't had a situation.
I'm trying to think the last time I actually got embarrassed.
You know, I get embarrassed when I say things that
I don't mean. So if I'm talking to some more diiffer,
I'm playing a show and I say something trying to
be funny and it's not funny, I get embarrassed. That's
(48:01):
when That's when I get embarrassed. So that's that is
that is where I come. Then I just shut up
by you laughing. You know what I'm talking about? What
you're talking about? Yeah, But yeah, I don't. I just
don't know what I would get embarrassed about. Like, I
(48:21):
don't really get nervous. I'm really embarrassed. That's just kind
of how I've been since I've been an adult. But anyways,
so back to your story. Please tell the people, Yes,
I mean, I mean, just be ready for for our
our boy over there at US Weekly. I mean, if
(48:45):
you want that to be the headline please by all
means you're right, I'm not gonna say it. People are
gonna be dying to hear it now. I'm not ready.
It's so bad Eastan is about to get this story
behind the scenes. I just don't think because we think
they'd actually run that. Probably I would. That's so embarrassing. Yeah,
(49:13):
I'd probably Wait. Okay, man, we're talking about a tease.
What we did te I mean it's tease. Maybe I'll
talk her into it next week. I don't think it's
gonna happen because that. Okay, Can we take a break
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I know this is a little different setup for those listening.
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do some at home podcasts, um because we do live
in Nashville now, but we're definitely going to bring and
guests to our house. We're going to do some phone
ins from l A. So today was just a get
(52:06):
to know, get to know the system. So I hope
you guys have had some good takeaways, some good laughs,
and learned something along the way for this podcast. And uh,
I'm sorry, I'm not going to bust my bubble on
the most embarrassing story, but it's it's that bad. But
maybe if you guys send me in your most embarrassing stories,
it will make me feel better. So wind down at
(52:29):
iHeart radio dot com and maybe I will get the
courage to actually tell my story. Yeah, send some of
your stories. They can be anonymous obviously, and we love
to read some of those and to try to boost
stand up because you guys are going to want to
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it's gonna make your week, it's gonna make your month.
You're gonna be talking about me fantastic to UM. This
(52:52):
has been great there because I got chance and waffles.
Just laying by my feet, just hanging out. Kids are upstairs.
They went straight to bed. They did They did great,
no struggle all right now Mom wants to get to bed.
I love you,
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