September 19, 2025 • 23 mins
Jana and Kristen are hanging out with the iconic Aly and AJ! The sisters have a new album out, a big tour kicking off, and a major anniversary for their hit project “Into the Rush”.
Aly shares how she was able to record an album right after giving birth, and Jana and AJ bond over their time on the same season of The Masked Singer!
Plus, we ask AJ about dating Joe Jonas, and we try to figure out WHO their biggest song is written about!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so today's guests, we have two sisters, Ali
and aj. They are American pop rock indie duo made
up of sisters Allison and a j And they're raised
in California. They broke out in the mid two thousands
after starting with Hollywood Records. They've got an album and
a tour coming up. So let's get the sisters on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hi, you guys are so cute Bank.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Thanks, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Answer?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love sisters. I always wanted a sister too. That's
why we have each other. I know we're just hopping
right into this too because this is just but yeah,
I always, I literally always wanted I know, sister. I
have sister envy, so I had to have. Yeah. I
gave my oldest daughter a sister. You know, it was like,
you have to have this.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's really sweet. That's really sweet. Yeah. We tend to
do a lot of unison, so you'll be just des accident.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. What is okay? So because
we didn't have sisters, what is the one thing? What
is what do you love about? Oh boy, your sister
and what is one thing where you're like, I cannot
stand this about you.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Ag loves to rearrange. Well, I mean I do it too.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We both stand it, but I yeah, she like, if
I put my shoes in one corner of the room,
they're rearranged immediately.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But I'm also used to it, so I'm like, I
love moving things. It's weird. It's an issue. He loves
to move ste is it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
For order or just for like it's order at OCD
Yes say, I really relate to that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean I do it too, but I wait until
we believe, and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm reorganizing
my stuff. But that's true. That's so that's your that's
your annoyance, that's my annoyance. You're the thing I love.
I honestly love seeing her be an aunt. It's so
cute how obsessed she is with my son and how
obsessed he is with her, Like they have a very
very precious relationship that is unlike like anyone side of
(02:00):
my husband and I.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
How old is your son?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
He's seventeen months.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh fine, I've got a twenty two month old son.
Oh so okay, yeah, wild.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a wild moment. Yeah, he's really he's struggling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's yeah, he's struggling with the teething, and he's really
active and just everything kind of I mean, it's funny.
It's like only started recently, but like he'll just have
these little.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Melt that sounds. They're not they don't last very long.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But I'm like, why are you so sad of the sun,
like just devastated, and then and then he's fine, like
three minutes later, and then just something just if you
take something away that he was really wanting, it's just
like meltdown.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He and I are on the same page lately, I think,
but it's fair. I do also think they run into that,
like they can't really speak as much as they want
to speak. I really can't imitate, yeah, and so they
just get frustrated and they're like which.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think is is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think that is a huge factor, because he knows
a few words, but like not not enough to communicate
what he's like really wanting or needing. I obviously you know,
little cues, but like, yeah, I think once he's like
fully talking and I can reason with him and.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Be like it's okay, like let's go do this thing.
You know it'll be different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, my son is seven, and I think we might
have just gotten to the reasoning stage barely but great, great.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So so another yeah six and a halfs Oh my gosh, at.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Seven, guys, he's just he's he's a manimal. It's not
all boys are created equal. It's fine, You're gonna be great.
It's true story. Yeah, my boys are very different. All right,
what about for you?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I would say, let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That she puts her shoes in the wrong place.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No, most annoying for Ali is she's she interrupts a lot.
It drives me nuts. So that would be my biggest annoyance.
Love you. And then my favorite thing about Ali is
her drive.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
She's like incredibly driven and passionate and she does not stop.
Like she's just a go getter. She doesn't like nothing
really can take her down.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Has that been an asset to you too? In like
the acting industry and every I mean you're in every industry.
As I was, like we were reading your biome or
like is there anything you two haven't done? But is
that drive like a catalyst when it comes to career
for both of you?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I think so? I think so I've always been that way.
We're both areas. We're both you know, we are go getters.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We're kind of hard headed, we're a little bit stubborn,
but like we're really passionate about what we do and
we have a really clear vision. And I do think
that that's really helped us, not only as actors, but
in the music industry, especially as an indie act that
has to make a lot of decisions ourselves, things that
aren't being made by other people. You know, there is
no major label behind what we do. It's like every
single decision is through us. Doesn't mean it's always going
(04:49):
to be right. We do have people that we consult with,
but like it's a lot of times it's.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Ali and I.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Whether it's merch, whether it's vinyl design, whether it's production,
everything goes through us.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So yeah, I I do think it really it helps
to be that clear.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
When did you guys part from the label?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We slip? We did Hollywood Record.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Early twenties, we were like twenty, Yeah, it was a
while ago one in nineteen eighteen, I think, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
We're now in our thirties, so it's been a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Was it because you didn't have then because they were
trying to control it in a way you didn't want
to control it, or was it just so you wanted
to have that ownership.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I think it was a mix. I think yeah,
I think it was. It was twofold.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It was I think us just growing out of the
label in terms of we were not kids anymore and
we were wanting to make rock music, and I think
that was hard for them to kind of wrap their
head around because of us coming from the channel. And
then I think, yeah, I think also we were just
at a point where we didn't feel like that the
(05:52):
record that we had just recorded was getting like the
initial support that it should have.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And we kind of saw the signs.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Because we had always made by Your Records with them,
and we were like, it's not really being supported the
way that the previous records have been supported, and that
was like a red flag for us. So I think
we knew like, our time here is kind of up,
even though it was on the early side for you know,
what was still due on our contract, but we were
able to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And the parting way is actually was not like an ugly.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Battle, which was ye yeah, yeah, I feel like that
is a real blessing, because that doesn't seem in most
I feel like it's usually some tension when you split
from a label when you Okay, are we referring to
Disney when we say the channel? Because that really got
good to me.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I always did it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And I'm going to start using that, like, hey, guys,
put on the channel.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
We do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Oh yeah, always say that is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's incredible, and I'm using that moving forward. I
will totally give you credit. But okay, okay, So you
guys started early, you girls started early in Disney, and
I feel like you have made a transition into adulthood
really well, and I feel like that's a little rare.
Would you agree, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I think it's hard when people start at a really
young age, like everything about your career has been either
put on screen documented, and then it's kind of hard
to like, it's hard to grow up gracefully in the
public eye.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We've seen it a million times over. It usually is
not super graceful. And I really do think we've we
had a really really what I consider normal upbringing, even
though we were in the business at a really young age.
We had a really, really stable home life, which I
think really is kind of the reason why our transition
to adulthood was fairly smooth.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I feel like to you guys, I obviously know of
you guys, but I don't know you stay pretty private
with Yeah, I feel like with your marriage within your
I don't know. That's from what I've seen and just
even doing further, you know, further deep dive into you guys.
Is that a conscious thing of you guys wanting to
(07:58):
be more private?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It is, Yeah, I think it's important to separate the two.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I think you know, of course, if you see us
on the street or at the airport, like we're gonna
stop and chat or take a picture, we're like, we're
very accessible in that way. But I think there's certain
things that are just better left not shared. But we're
also like we're open books too, So I think it's
(08:25):
kind of it's a mix. I think it's it's when
it feels like it's something that needs to be kind
of sacred and it's just for us, then it's just
for us and we don't share it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I think we are really used to.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Just being in the public eye because of it starting
at such a young age, it really doesn't phaze us.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, your boyfriend roster is a little bit more
popular than most people. I mean, I feel like that's
pretty fair to say. So it kind of thrust you
into a different category. I mean, I don't have a
bonus on my roster, so lives in Los Angeles for.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'm not Joe though, But you got a roster, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, how long have you listened
to wine Lady?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Over sure?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Too much? Over here? Okay, they were happily married and
we love her husband. That's the great news. That's that
is the great news.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Wait really quick, I don't want to I don't wanna
steamroll when you guys have questions for us. But we
were literally on the same season of Master Singer.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We were, and I was actually just going to bring
that up. Yeah were you really? I was because I
wanted to know. But what what were you going to say?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We were both in support the girls too.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I didn't well, like
I had like a little teeny weenie part but yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Still, but still I remember I was like she was
in that movie that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is so funny. Yeah, so I was the royal night.
She was Strawberry, and I just remember hearing you sing
and I went, well, there goes come out. I was
eliminating myself. I was like, yeah it.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I was like, and I literally I.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Was like, can I eliminate myself?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Like here you go, Strawberry, you're really sweet. Well it didn't.
It didn't go my way either, So you should have one.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Though your voice. You have you both of you guys,
but I mean beautiful. So it's like, I mean, I
just like would sit there and just listen and just
be in awe, like I'm just lucky to be here, happy.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
To be thanks.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's really nice that I was bombed that that I
didn't I didn't win.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was, of.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Course, I mean, listen, it's it's I mean again, I
knew I didn't stand a chance of winning, but it
was one of those things where even when I got eliminated,
I was still bummed. Of course, you know what I mean,
like you don't want to leave, you don't want to
say like you're not going forward. So yeah, I even
got like a little don't cry.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Don't I don't cry, but I'm like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
For you, it's like, no, you're really freaking talented and
great singer, like you should have I think you should
have won.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So I think that's really sweet. Thank you. Well, it's
just cool that we share that because it was such.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
A weird, unique experience, like something I'll never probably do
again and have never done.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So I was like, oh, that's so funny that we
both endured that show.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Did they ask you us to do it together? Because
I know a lot of times like the boys to men,
obviously they.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah they did, and Allie was no, I think, wait,
you were You hadn't given birth yet.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I hadn't given given birth yet.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But I think when it shot, when it shot, it
would have been like he would have been, like.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I know, a few weeks older.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So I had him in May and then you had
him in April, and then I think we shot.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
We shot it in June or July, something around June
or July. I just remember, Oh, no, it was before
my it was before my wedding.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It was June, Okay, So then it would have been
like he would have been like six weeks or something,
which I think it would have been just too much. Yeah,
it would have been. I mean, he was in a
studio with us done early on. But that's different like
having him. You know, I'm not in a costume and
I'm not having to like rehearse the songs.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It just would have been so sen.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There's a million places that I can try to put
myself postpartum in a Berry costume on the set of
Mass Singer is not one of the listen. I did
postpartum wind down way too soon. I mean, it was
like the week after giving birth and I'm crying, doing
like a butcher box ad. I'm like, I should not
be doing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I should be doing this. My gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, that's the real deal, right there is postpartum like Ali.
I mean, just from what I saw, like was actually
handled it really well in the sense that you didn't
really have to go through it too intensely.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
No, but it was there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And I was just lucky that my journey from delivery
to like okay, now we're we're doing this and we're
we have a baby and he's here was like quite smooth.
But I think part of that was like, thankfully, my
you know, birth story was not traumatic.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think that was a big part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And and then I think also the fact that like
it was so relaxed being able to be in the
studio and I was just nursing him and he was
just in my arms for most of the day, and
then I would just kind of switch out and hand
him to my husband or hand him to aj and
go and record you know, the verse or chorus and
then come back. And I didn't have to look you know,
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put together. I was like basically in pajamas. You know,
that was really over. So he's very relaxed. And we
were in someone's home studio, so again it was like
we drove down the street, you know, he would just
be just right there in our arms, sometimes even recording vocals.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So it was like easy enough. It was like there
was just here then like a sound stage in a car.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah yeah, getting here and makeup and getting miked up
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, no, no one deserves that. We all agree that
Strawberry was the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So and it's really street. I don't disagree. Thank you.
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah yeah, okay, girls, you're really busy still. So we
have a baby, you're an aunt. You have a big
careers album coming out, big album coming out tour, celebrating
twenty years since the first album, which is insane because
you are aging in reverse and does everyone in your
family have hair like this? I wish people could. This
is the part of it that I always get sad
(14:15):
people can't see you because your hair is just like luscious.
It's just, oh, genetics are really good for both of you.
Great job, thank you nice. But you guys having this,
you know, with the new album and the tour is
this is this kind of where you see because I
got to be honest, when I had my second that's
(14:36):
when my touring really slowed down because I'm like I
had the crib on the bus and you know, the
nanny out there, and it's like I I didn't want
it enough to keep going, and just the whole country
radio thing and every you know, all that was just
it was just it was a lot, and it was hard.
And so then when I got off my label, it
was just like I don't I actually don't want to
(14:58):
do this piece of I want to still do music,
but I don't want to tour as much now that
I'm like old and it's too far gone. It's like
I missed that piece of touring. So it's like I
almost wish I would have kept it alive a bit.
But you guys are in your thirties and your babies
are young. Where do you see the trajectory of where
your career is going? Like do you want to do
(15:20):
these tours like this or do you want to you know,
focus more on acting or kind of where do you
think that goes in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, the goal is that we continue to tour
and put out as much music as we can. I mean,
we love acting and we've been doing that for years,
but the music has been really calling us lately, and
the creative side of our writing has just not really
let up since twenty seventeen at this point, so you know,
the amount of music we've released and the amount of
tours we've been on, I can't really see it stopping.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I don't want to speak for Ali when she has
a son, but.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
We're going to see how it goes. We've never toured
with them on a bus. We do have help, which
is great.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Where we just walked into our rehearsal space with a
ton of baby boxes, baby list boxes, because it all
got delivered.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
When the rider stops being like whiskey and red wine
instead of like diapers and yeah, and I was like,
oh this is different again.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, I mean we took you know, in our twenties,
we ended up taking a really big gap from music
and we didn't continue to tour.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And I kick ourselves that we didn't keep.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Going because we would have grown a really, really healthy,
I think touring lifestyle had we not stopped. Now we're
rebuilding it, and so I don't see us like walking
away from an a time soon, because we've really gotten
too a place where A we love being on stage
and we feel really comfortable on stage, but B we're
playing bigger rooms every year and it's getting more and
more successful.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
So to say goodbye to it, I do think would
be tough.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We're just going to see how it goes with him
on the bus, and eventually down the road, I'm going
to have a kid and Ali might have a second,
and we'll have to see how it goes. It could
be really tricky, but the goal is that we raise
them in a touring lifestyle kind of how.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Ali and I grew up. I mean, we weren't babies
on the road, but we were.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But that there is to it, and that it's kind
of just second nature for them to be on a
bus and there's yeah, there's kind of nothing strange about
you know that that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's easier said than done, but it has to be
the music has to be working so well to be
able to bring out a family that that's also a
thing that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
To keep in mind. So, you know, hopefully we're in
a place where it's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Just people don't understand how expensive it's like, you know,
getting a second bus for them, baby bus. I mean
it's so expensive that I'm like, and then you know,
being on a label and not having the ownership of
your masters, it's like, I mean I barely broke even
on those big tours that I was a part of,
but that second bus just kills you.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh yeah, you're absolutely no. Yeah, it's hard to it's
hard to explain to people.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That aren't in them to and in the industry.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, and if.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You broke it down to everyone, they would be shook
by the expenses of it all.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, and they'd be saddened. I think, in fact, I'm
going to three babies on a bus with twelve dudes
tonight because second buses are expensive.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, right, that is, It's amazing. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah. I was just like, we can't do that with
I mean, we have such a sweet you know, band
and crew, and a lot of them we've been with
for a while, like we know them, you know, and
we've been working with them for years. But yeah, that
just seems like then they have to come on the
bus and everybody's got to be quiet.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's like, don't make any sound.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, it's just just that's crazy logistical. I used
to be like, don't slam the door the baby just
like slam those bus doors.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh my god. Yeah, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's a lot to ask the people to be in
a big group like that touring with then a child.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a lot. So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But thank god we've got yeah, the two bus situation,
which is a crazy expense, but it's something we kind
of have to do on this run.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I like to think if you can keep the
family unit together, then the provision will be for you,
because that is what we do on earth for Heaven's sake,
in my opinion, just keep us another So let it just.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's really beautiful. It's a great way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So tour is kicking off in Los Angeles? Is that right?
And it has not started yet, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Right, this Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So the first two shows, Yeah, the first two shows
are in LA at the Ford, the nineteenth and twentieth,
and then we fly to Portland and go from there.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And that's when we meet up with the bus and
then the rest of the tour goes through till November ninth.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Do you have any Nashville shows?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We don't, don't too, which is insane.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I know, we were.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
We were so rude. We were supposed to play. Last
time we played Nashville, we were at the Rhyman on
my birthday, which was so special. But this year, because
we were supposed to play Bonnaroo, we couldn't route a
Nashville date just because of and then Bonnaroo, yes, class,
but then Bonnaroo got canceled because of weather.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So we're like, we didn't even get a play Nashville. Here,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We'll come back to us and bring us your baby
and let's let all these boys roll around together.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, because you guys all have you have all boys.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Two boys and a girl, and I have two girls
and a boy. But they're all the same, we have
identical ages.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Oh my gosh, so cute. And are you guys just
like best friends?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like how to just start just Bessy's we met and
that she was working for a music label when I
was in music and we just became best friends years
years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So if you've said who potential breakup song is not about?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Who?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Have you ever said who it is about?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, it's not interesting because it's not about anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Anyone, girls. We got to a better story, I know,
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Like literally there is no I mean, I would hate
to be like to lie.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, you can't lie, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But I agree, And we're going to give you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
A cliffhanger or something you can anchor on too, so
we can just ask a question back next time. In
that way, we just keep the wheels turning.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Great, fine, just don't fully answer. That's I need to
start doing that. Yeah, it's about no one.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Have you guys ever been up for the same thing
and then the other sister got it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We've never been like up for it. We've liked you
auditioned for a lot of the same things. Yeah, but
it's never been down to the two of us.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
We used auditions for a lot of stuff when we
were younger, and now all of a sudden, we're kind
of auditioning for the same things now because we're in
our mid thirties, which is funny. So there's like that crossover.
But we've never yeah, we've never like been up for it.
And it's like between the two of us, or between
the two of us and two other people.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't even think we've ever auditioned for the same role,
not even being both like final, but like one auditioning
another and one booking.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't even think that's happened.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, Yeah, so fascinating with sister ship. It's so cute
to watch. I know it's and I'm just like, it's
just so easy. It's like built in besties. I know,
what is the age difference two years? Oh that's a
special one too. Yeah, because you don't remember life without
each other.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's so fun.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's how I feel about you too. Even though we
met in our thirties, I don't remember the twenties. Thirties, ma'am,
ma'am carrying the one. Yeahk oh, my goodness, well, Alliet Agent,
thank you guys so much for coming on. You guys
are precious and I hope that you guys come to Nashville.
And but yeah, good luck with everything going on, and
(22:11):
thank you for everything that you guys do too about
you know, you guys speak about Friday image, mental health.
I mean you guys, you're you're open in those areas
where you know people need that openness, So thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, it's it's important for us to speak about those
issues as a band, and I think, you know, using
the music as a way to get that message across
is is kind of the whole point of why we
do this.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So yeah, that's very sweet to mention. Thank you of course.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well we love you girls and we want you in Nashville,
so come.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
See us next time. We'll come through. You guys should
do a mom date night come.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Out, yes, and it can be over by like eight thirty.
We can wash our face perfect, perfect, just the way
we like it. Bye girls, ye I thank you ya.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Bye.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so today's guests, we have two sisters, Ali
and aj. They are American pop rock indie duo made
up of sisters Allison and a j And they're raised
in California. They broke out in the mid two thousands
after starting with Hollywood Records. They've got an album and
a tour coming up. So let's get the sisters on.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hi, you guys are so cute Bank.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Thanks, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Answer?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love sisters. I always wanted a sister too. That's
why we have each other. I know we're just hopping
right into this too because this is just but yeah,
I always, I literally always wanted I know, sister. I
have sister envy, so I had to have. Yeah. I
gave my oldest daughter a sister. You know, it was like,
you have to have this.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's really sweet. That's really sweet. Yeah. We tend to
do a lot of unison, so you'll be just des accident.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. What is okay? So because
we didn't have sisters, what is the one thing? What
is what do you love about? Oh boy, your sister
and what is one thing where you're like, I cannot
stand this about you.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Ag loves to rearrange. Well, I mean I do it too.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We both stand it, but I yeah, she like, if
I put my shoes in one corner of the room,
they're rearranged immediately.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But I'm also used to it, so I'm like, I
love moving things. It's weird. It's an issue. He loves
to move ste is it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
For order or just for like it's order at OCD
Yes say, I really relate to that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean I do it too, but I wait until
we believe, and then I'm like, Okay, now I'm reorganizing
my stuff. But that's true. That's so that's your that's
your annoyance, that's my annoyance. You're the thing I love.
I honestly love seeing her be an aunt. It's so
cute how obsessed she is with my son and how
obsessed he is with her, Like they have a very
very precious relationship that is unlike like anyone side of
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my husband and I.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
How old is your son?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
He's seventeen months.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh fine, I've got a twenty two month old son.
Oh so okay, yeah, wild.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a wild moment. Yeah, he's really he's struggling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's yeah, he's struggling with the teething, and he's really
active and just everything kind of I mean, it's funny.
It's like only started recently, but like he'll just have
these little.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Melt that sounds. They're not they don't last very long.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But I'm like, why are you so sad of the sun,
like just devastated, and then and then he's fine, like
three minutes later, and then just something just if you
take something away that he was really wanting, it's just
like meltdown.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He and I are on the same page lately, I think,
but it's fair. I do also think they run into that,
like they can't really speak as much as they want
to speak. I really can't imitate, yeah, and so they
just get frustrated and they're like which.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think is is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think that is a huge factor, because he knows
a few words, but like not not enough to communicate
what he's like really wanting or needing. I obviously you know,
little cues, but like, yeah, I think once he's like
fully talking and I can reason with him and.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Be like it's okay, like let's go do this thing.
You know it'll be different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, my son is seven, and I think we might
have just gotten to the reasoning stage barely but great, great.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So so another yeah six and a halfs Oh my gosh, at.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Seven, guys, he's just he's he's a manimal. It's not
all boys are created equal. It's fine, You're gonna be great.
It's true story. Yeah, my boys are very different. All right,
what about for you?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I would say, let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That she puts her shoes in the wrong place.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No, most annoying for Ali is she's she interrupts a lot.
It drives me nuts. So that would be my biggest annoyance.
Love you. And then my favorite thing about Ali is
her drive.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
She's like incredibly driven and passionate and she does not stop.
Like she's just a go getter. She doesn't like nothing
really can take her down.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Has that been an asset to you too? In like
the acting industry and every I mean you're in every industry.
As I was, like we were reading your biome or
like is there anything you two haven't done? But is
that drive like a catalyst when it comes to career
for both of you?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I think so? I think so I've always been that way.
We're both areas. We're both you know, we are go getters.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We're kind of hard headed, we're a little bit stubborn,
but like we're really passionate about what we do and
we have a really clear vision. And I do think
that that's really helped us, not only as actors, but
in the music industry, especially as an indie act that
has to make a lot of decisions ourselves, things that
aren't being made by other people. You know, there is
no major label behind what we do. It's like every
single decision is through us. Doesn't mean it's always going
(04:49):
to be right. We do have people that we consult with,
but like it's a lot of times it's.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Ali and I.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Whether it's merch, whether it's vinyl design, whether it's production,
everything goes through us.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So yeah, I I do think it really it helps
to be that clear.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
When did you guys part from the label?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
We slip? We did Hollywood Record.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Early twenties, we were like twenty, Yeah, it was a
while ago one in nineteen eighteen, I think, yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
We're now in our thirties, so it's been a bit.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Was it because you didn't have then because they were
trying to control it in a way you didn't want
to control it, or was it just so you wanted
to have that ownership.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I think it was a mix. I think yeah,
I think it was. It was twofold.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It was I think us just growing out of the
label in terms of we were not kids anymore and
we were wanting to make rock music, and I think
that was hard for them to kind of wrap their
head around because of us coming from the channel. And
then I think, yeah, I think also we were just
at a point where we didn't feel like that the
(05:52):
record that we had just recorded was getting like the
initial support that it should have.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And we kind of saw the signs.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Because we had always made by Your Records with them,
and we were like, it's not really being supported the
way that the previous records have been supported, and that
was like a red flag for us. So I think
we knew like, our time here is kind of up,
even though it was on the early side for you know,
what was still due on our contract, but we were
able to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And the parting way is actually was not like an ugly.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Battle, which was ye yeah, yeah, I feel like that
is a real blessing, because that doesn't seem in most
I feel like it's usually some tension when you split
from a label when you Okay, are we referring to
Disney when we say the channel? Because that really got
good to me.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I always did it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And I'm going to start using that, like, hey, guys,
put on the channel.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
We do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Oh yeah, always say that is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's incredible, and I'm using that moving forward. I
will totally give you credit. But okay, okay, So you
guys started early, you girls started early in Disney, and
I feel like you have made a transition into adulthood
really well, and I feel like that's a little rare.
Would you agree, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I think it's hard when people start at a really
young age, like everything about your career has been either
put on screen documented, and then it's kind of hard
to like, it's hard to grow up gracefully in the
public eye.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We've seen it a million times over. It usually is
not super graceful. And I really do think we've we
had a really really what I consider normal upbringing, even
though we were in the business at a really young age.
We had a really, really stable home life, which I
think really is kind of the reason why our transition
to adulthood was fairly smooth.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I feel like to you guys, I obviously know of
you guys, but I don't know you stay pretty private
with Yeah, I feel like with your marriage within your
I don't know. That's from what I've seen and just
even doing further, you know, further deep dive into you guys.
Is that a conscious thing of you guys wanting to
(07:58):
be more private?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It is, Yeah, I think it's important to separate the two.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I think you know, of course, if you see us
on the street or at the airport, like we're gonna
stop and chat or take a picture, we're like, we're
very accessible in that way. But I think there's certain
things that are just better left not shared. But we're
also like we're open books too, So I think it's
(08:25):
kind of it's a mix. I think it's it's when
it feels like it's something that needs to be kind
of sacred and it's just for us, then it's just
for us and we don't share it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I think we are really used to.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Just being in the public eye because of it starting
at such a young age, it really doesn't phaze us.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, your boyfriend roster is a little bit more
popular than most people. I mean, I feel like that's
pretty fair to say. So it kind of thrust you
into a different category. I mean, I don't have a
bonus on my roster, so lives in Los Angeles for.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'm not Joe though, But you got a roster, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, how long have you listened
to wine Lady?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Over sure?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Too much? Over here? Okay, they were happily married and
we love her husband. That's the great news. That's that
is the great news.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Wait really quick, I don't want to I don't wanna
steamroll when you guys have questions for us. But we
were literally on the same season of Master Singer.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We were, and I was actually just going to bring
that up. Yeah were you really? I was because I
wanted to know. But what what were you going to say?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We were both in support the girls too.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I didn't well, like
I had like a little teeny weenie part but yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Still, but still I remember I was like she was
in that movie that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is so funny. Yeah, so I was the royal night.
She was Strawberry, and I just remember hearing you sing
and I went, well, there goes come out. I was
eliminating myself. I was like, yeah it.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I was like, and I literally I.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Was like, can I eliminate myself?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Like here you go, Strawberry, you're really sweet. Well it didn't.
It didn't go my way either, So you should have one.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Though your voice. You have you both of you guys,
but I mean beautiful. So it's like, I mean, I
just like would sit there and just listen and just
be in awe, like I'm just lucky to be here, happy.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
To be thanks.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's really nice that I was bombed that that I
didn't I didn't win.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was, of.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Course, I mean, listen, it's it's I mean again, I
knew I didn't stand a chance of winning, but it
was one of those things where even when I got eliminated,
I was still bummed. Of course, you know what I mean,
like you don't want to leave, you don't want to
say like you're not going forward. So yeah, I even
got like a little don't cry.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Don't I don't cry, but I'm like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
For you, it's like, no, you're really freaking talented and
great singer, like you should have I think you should
have won.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So I think that's really sweet. Thank you. Well, it's
just cool that we share that because it was such.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
A weird, unique experience, like something I'll never probably do
again and have never done.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So I was like, oh, that's so funny that we
both endured that show.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Did they ask you us to do it together? Because
I know a lot of times like the boys to men,
obviously they.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah they did, and Allie was no, I think, wait,
you were You hadn't given birth yet.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I hadn't given given birth yet.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But I think when it shot, when it shot, it
would have been like he would have been, like.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I know, a few weeks older.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So I had him in May and then you had
him in April, and then I think we shot.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
We shot it in June or July, something around June
or July. I just remember, Oh, no, it was before
my it was before my wedding.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It was June, Okay, So then it would have been
like he would have been like six weeks or something,
which I think it would have been just too much. Yeah,
it would have been. I mean, he was in a
studio with us done early on. But that's different like
having him. You know, I'm not in a costume and
I'm not having to like rehearse the songs.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It just would have been so sen.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There's a million places that I can try to put
myself postpartum in a Berry costume on the set of
Mass Singer is not one of the listen. I did
postpartum wind down way too soon. I mean, it was
like the week after giving birth and I'm crying, doing
like a butcher box ad. I'm like, I should not
be doing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I should be doing this. My gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, that's the real deal, right there is postpartum like Ali.
I mean, just from what I saw, like was actually
handled it really well in the sense that you didn't
really have to go through it too intensely.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
No, but it was there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And I was just lucky that my journey from delivery
to like okay, now we're we're doing this and we're
we have a baby and he's here was like quite smooth.
But I think part of that was like, thankfully, my
you know, birth story was not traumatic.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think that was a big part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And and then I think also the fact that like
it was so relaxed being able to be in the
studio and I was just nursing him and he was
just in my arms for most of the day, and
then I would just kind of switch out and hand
him to my husband or hand him to aj and
go and record you know, the verse or chorus and
then come back. And I didn't have to look you know,
(13:21):
put together. I was like basically in pajamas. You know,
that was really over. So he's very relaxed. And we
were in someone's home studio, so again it was like
we drove down the street, you know, he would just
be just right there in our arms, sometimes even recording vocals.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So it was like easy enough. It was like there
was just here then like a sound stage in a car.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah yeah, getting here and makeup and getting miked up
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, no, no one deserves that. We all agree that
Strawberry was the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So and it's really street. I don't disagree. Thank you.
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah yeah, okay, girls, you're really busy still. So we
have a baby, you're an aunt. You have a big
careers album coming out, big album coming out tour, celebrating
twenty years since the first album, which is insane because
you are aging in reverse and does everyone in your
family have hair like this? I wish people could. This
is the part of it that I always get sad
(14:15):
people can't see you because your hair is just like luscious.
It's just, oh, genetics are really good for both of you.
Great job, thank you nice. But you guys having this,
you know, with the new album and the tour is
this is this kind of where you see because I
got to be honest, when I had my second that's
(14:36):
when my touring really slowed down because I'm like I
had the crib on the bus and you know, the
nanny out there, and it's like I I didn't want
it enough to keep going, and just the whole country
radio thing and every you know, all that was just
it was just it was a lot, and it was hard.
And so then when I got off my label, it
was just like I don't I actually don't want to
(14:58):
do this piece of I want to still do music,
but I don't want to tour as much now that
I'm like old and it's too far gone. It's like
I missed that piece of touring. So it's like I
almost wish I would have kept it alive a bit.
But you guys are in your thirties and your babies
are young. Where do you see the trajectory of where
your career is going? Like do you want to do
(15:20):
these tours like this or do you want to you know,
focus more on acting or kind of where do you
think that goes in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, the goal is that we continue to tour
and put out as much music as we can. I mean,
we love acting and we've been doing that for years,
but the music has been really calling us lately, and
the creative side of our writing has just not really
let up since twenty seventeen at this point, so you know,
the amount of music we've released and the amount of
tours we've been on, I can't really see it stopping.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I don't want to speak for Ali when she has
a son, but.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
We're going to see how it goes. We've never toured
with them on a bus. We do have help, which
is great.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Where we just walked into our rehearsal space with a
ton of baby boxes, baby list boxes, because it all
got delivered.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
When the rider stops being like whiskey and red wine
instead of like diapers and yeah, and I was like,
oh this is different again.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, I mean we took you know, in our twenties,
we ended up taking a really big gap from music
and we didn't continue to tour.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And I kick ourselves that we didn't keep.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Going because we would have grown a really, really healthy,
I think touring lifestyle had we not stopped. Now we're
rebuilding it, and so I don't see us like walking
away from an a time soon, because we've really gotten
too a place where A we love being on stage
and we feel really comfortable on stage, but B we're
playing bigger rooms every year and it's getting more and
more successful.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
So to say goodbye to it, I do think would
be tough.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We're just going to see how it goes with him
on the bus, and eventually down the road, I'm going
to have a kid and Ali might have a second,
and we'll have to see how it goes. It could
be really tricky, but the goal is that we raise
them in a touring lifestyle kind of how.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Ali and I grew up. I mean, we weren't babies
on the road, but we were.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But that there is to it, and that it's kind
of just second nature for them to be on a
bus and there's yeah, there's kind of nothing strange about
you know that that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's easier said than done, but it has to be
the music has to be working so well to be
able to bring out a family that that's also a
thing that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
To keep in mind. So, you know, hopefully we're in
a place where it's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Just people don't understand how expensive it's like, you know,
getting a second bus for them, baby bus. I mean
it's so expensive that I'm like, and then you know,
being on a label and not having the ownership of
your masters, it's like, I mean I barely broke even
on those big tours that I was a part of,
but that second bus just kills you.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh yeah, you're absolutely no. Yeah, it's hard to it's
hard to explain to people.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That aren't in them to and in the industry.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, and if.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You broke it down to everyone, they would be shook
by the expenses of it all.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, and they'd be saddened. I think, in fact, I'm
going to three babies on a bus with twelve dudes
tonight because second buses are expensive.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, right, that is, It's amazing. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah. I was just like, we can't do that with
I mean, we have such a sweet you know, band
and crew, and a lot of them we've been with
for a while, like we know them, you know, and
we've been working with them for years. But yeah, that
just seems like then they have to come on the
bus and everybody's got to be quiet.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's like, don't make any sound.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, it's just just that's crazy logistical. I used
to be like, don't slam the door the baby just
like slam those bus doors.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh my god. Yeah, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's a lot to ask the people to be in
a big group like that touring with then a child.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a lot. So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But thank god we've got yeah, the two bus situation,
which is a crazy expense, but it's something we kind
of have to do on this run.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So I like to think if you can keep the
family unit together, then the provision will be for you,
because that is what we do on earth for Heaven's sake,
in my opinion, just keep us another So let it just.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's really beautiful. It's a great way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So tour is kicking off in Los Angeles? Is that right?
And it has not started yet, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Right, this Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So the first two shows, Yeah, the first two shows
are in LA at the Ford, the nineteenth and twentieth,
and then we fly to Portland and go from there.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And that's when we meet up with the bus and
then the rest of the tour goes through till November ninth.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Do you have any Nashville shows?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We don't, don't too, which is insane.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I know, we were.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
We were so rude. We were supposed to play. Last
time we played Nashville, we were at the Rhyman on
my birthday, which was so special. But this year, because
we were supposed to play Bonnaroo, we couldn't route a
Nashville date just because of and then Bonnaroo, yes, class,
but then Bonnaroo got canceled because of weather.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So we're like, we didn't even get a play Nashville. Here,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We'll come back to us and bring us your baby
and let's let all these boys roll around together.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, because you guys all have you have all boys.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Two boys and a girl, and I have two girls
and a boy. But they're all the same, we have
identical ages.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Oh my gosh, so cute. And are you guys just
like best friends?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like how to just start just Bessy's we met and
that she was working for a music label when I
was in music and we just became best friends years
years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So if you've said who potential breakup song is not about?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Who?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Have you ever said who it is about?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, it's not interesting because it's not about anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Anyone, girls. We got to a better story, I know,
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Like literally there is no I mean, I would hate
to be like to lie.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, you can't lie, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But I agree, And we're going to give you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
A cliffhanger or something you can anchor on too, so
we can just ask a question back next time. In
that way, we just keep the wheels turning.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Great, fine, just don't fully answer. That's I need to
start doing that. Yeah, it's about no one.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Have you guys ever been up for the same thing
and then the other sister got it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We've never been like up for it. We've liked you
auditioned for a lot of the same things. Yeah, but
it's never been down to the two of us.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
We used auditions for a lot of stuff when we
were younger, and now all of a sudden, we're kind
of auditioning for the same things now because we're in
our mid thirties, which is funny. So there's like that crossover.
But we've never yeah, we've never like been up for it.
And it's like between the two of us, or between
the two of us and two other people.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't even think we've ever auditioned for the same role,
not even being both like final, but like one auditioning
another and one booking.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't even think that's happened.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, Yeah, so fascinating with sister ship. It's so cute
to watch. I know it's and I'm just like, it's
just so easy. It's like built in besties. I know,
what is the age difference two years? Oh that's a
special one too. Yeah, because you don't remember life without
each other.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's so fun.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's how I feel about you too. Even though we
met in our thirties, I don't remember the twenties. Thirties, ma'am,
ma'am carrying the one. Yeahk oh, my goodness, well, Alliet Agent,
thank you guys so much for coming on. You guys
are precious and I hope that you guys come to Nashville.
And but yeah, good luck with everything going on, and
(22:11):
thank you for everything that you guys do too about
you know, you guys speak about Friday image, mental health.
I mean you guys, you're you're open in those areas
where you know people need that openness, So thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, it's it's important for us to speak about those
issues as a band, and I think, you know, using
the music as a way to get that message across
is is kind of the whole point of why we
do this.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So yeah, that's very sweet to mention. Thank you of course.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well we love you girls and we want you in Nashville,
so come.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
See us next time. We'll come through. You guys should
do a mom date night come.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Out, yes, and it can be over by like eight thirty.
We can wash our face perfect, perfect, just the way
we like it. Bye girls, ye I thank you ya.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Bye.
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