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July 16, 2025 17 mins

Jana and Allan made some headlines about Allan’s intimate personal practices (or lack thereof!). Kristen is here to help Jana break down the truth behind the clickbait and how Allan is handling the headlines!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Jana Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast. Well well, well,
headline episode. Wow, wow, Wow, you've been busy, Alan, hasn't
I have learned more about your husband's NUS in the
last week than I would ever care to know. I

(00:26):
didn't understand. I mean, there's so much happening and respectfully
not happening in your world that I shouldn't know listen.
I don't even I just feel like this headline episode
needs to be discussed for many reasons. For one of

(00:49):
the reasons what you just said, like that you didn't
need to know, I did not, and now I can't
unknow right unfortunately that he doesn't just all of it. Okay,
But here's here's where I'm gonna I totally hear you. No,
and I honestly think everything was respectful and beautiful and
I again love him. And you did you listen to

(01:11):
the episode? I didn't, So that's the problem, Okay, I
think because I read all the quotes but I didn't.
That is that is like the main that's my main
issue with headlines, Okay, And I'm which is why I
like to do these these episodes, these little snippet episodes

(01:32):
to talk about that because and that's one of the
reasons why I have a hard time with this podcast
is because of the headlines, because I understand someone could say, well,
in context, you're still talking about it. Sure, but the
episode was about sex. It was a sex It was
a sex episode with a sex spurt. She was a doctor, right,

(01:52):
who specializes in in intimacy, in sexual relationship, you know,
in relationships regards bedroom talk. So it's not like he
just randomly was like, I don't masturbate, you know what
I'm saying, Like, it's not it's not that we were
having a conversation. You know that you did. I did

(02:13):
know that you were inside of a sex episode. Okay, Well,
a lot of people just are like, for example, the
pres Hiltons of the world is like, I know too
much about these people. And it's like I hear you, like,
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not going to debate that
because you're right. But the thing is, and to kind
of defend myself and alan Is and anyone else that

(02:35):
comes on this podcast, you you talk about things, We
talk about whatever the topic is, right, So in that episode,
we're talking about sex. It's not like we're just randomly
one day having a conversation that Alan doesn't masturbate, right,
And I will say Alan's vulnerability from what I read,
is really incredible. I don't know that Preston Brest would

(02:58):
say those same, Like, I don't know that he would
be that open about sharing that. Yeah, even if it
was with a sexpert. Right, I still think keys, I'm
just really proud of Alan. Well, I think. And this
is again where I go to with this whole entire podcast. Yes,
there are so many things that we've shared in efforts
to yes either a help other people normalize conversations, and

(03:24):
most dms that I get are thank you so much
for talking about this. You know I was able to
have a great conversation with my husband, or thank you
for talking about this, Like you get the messages when
we talk about things. Yep, it is people. We're normalizing things,
we're talking about things, we're starting conversations. But the shitty
part of it is that it does become a headline
and then it's like, oh my god, these people and

(03:45):
then you read the comments on us weekly. I did
not read those. Well, they're awful because people, And that's
where I'm like, oh, I don't want to do this
podcast anymore because it's like no one everyone just sees
the headline but doesn't really know where it came from
or the story behind it, right everyone, But then you
know Devil's advocates like, well he did share that, sure,

(04:06):
But it was a topic of conversation about because I
asked how many couples would be upset if their partner masturbated.
Would you be upset if he did? No, I actually wouldn't.
I don't like porn because it's triggers from the past. Yeah,
just I'm all good on that, but I I wouldn't care,
like and when I said an episode like I don't

(04:28):
hate his answer like, I don't hate that, he doesn't doesn't.
I don't either. Ill take care of him and then
it's handsome and sacred. I thought that, like I, but
I wouldn't be mad at him. Would you be upset? No?
But I don't I think that Alan. Do you think
he does? No? No? No, it's like very like. Also,
my husband's getting older. I think he's like really like

(04:49):
I got to perform well, you know right, I mean
he's awesome, but I don't think. I just don't think so.
And I've asked before, like a long time ago, just
out of curiosity. In the answer was no, I just don't.
I almost over shared. Can't boop forget sometimes that we're

(05:11):
just recording, but I do. I felt like it was
just really honest and sweet. And I also felt that
way like, if you're taking care of him and he
respects that, there's intimacy to it. It's just not about
an orgasm, which I think is wonderful. And I, to
be very honest with you, I did not hear him
say that and go, oh, that's going to be a
headline or even worry about it. So that's a tricky

(05:35):
part though, right, I know, But like most of the
time I'm like, ooh, take that out because I don't
want that to can't even guess it. Yeah, but that
didn't even because I'm like, who in their right mind
would pick up that because it is such an intimate
thing that I'm like, they would never and he's not
saying he does it, so I feel like it would
be like a less juicy headline no punitended gross. So

(05:55):
I then wake up and see the headlines because someone's like, hey,
did you see this, And I'm like, oh my god.
And then to make it worse, Alan's in Portugal. Oh boy,
So I'm just like, he is going to be so upset. Yeah,

(06:15):
should we phone a friend? How is Alan feeling about this?
Because I feel like he's such a private guy. That's
part of the reason. So like, wow, he'd shared something
like that. Yeah, but he's so respectful. Like one of
the things the many things that I loved about Alan
early on in the way that y'all operate, is that
he does want some privacy and there are things that
are sacred, and so I thought it was vulnerable to

(06:36):
him to share. And I also thought it was I
can use this term loosely because I can't pick a
different one, but like inspiring in a way, so that
hopefully other men would see that and go yeah, why
would I you know? Right? Well, so I'm like, hey, babe,
uh oh dot dot dot. I said, oh, man, did
you see that headline? And then I put you know,

(06:58):
the monkey with the hand over the face oji? Did
he have his hand on his banana at the time? No, No,
it's Portugal. I didn't know. And he said about masturbating
question mark No, And I said yes, like, are you okay?
And he says he was like so lovely about it.

(07:20):
He goes, yeah, he goes to be honest, it could
have read Jana Kramer's husband can't stop masturbating. He's like,
this isn't I see it as a respectful honoring my wife.
And I was like, I love your answer to that.
Like he was not did not care for a second
and took it as a I'm a man who honors

(07:40):
my wife. And I don't know like it would it
could be so much worse of a headline. And I
was like, wow, yeah. I also just kind of like
how he handles it, because if he's not giving it
any energy zero I mean negative. Actually, he's like, yeah, anyways,
what's on the docket today. You're like, all right, no spiral,
I mean totally fine. Well, but I also hear the

(08:02):
people in the comments too, when they say, okay, you
know I know too much about these people. Well I do.
Like my friend Perez and like, I get it, And
we have a podcast we talk about things and we
do it in hopes to help again, help other people
to normalize certain things. And it's unfortunate when doing that
things become a headline. Yeah, I almost wish I would

(08:24):
like it better. If I didn't know Alan, Like, at
some point I'm going to sit across from Allan and
we're gonna have dinner and I'm going to be like
you or a wife honoring. That's just like, it's lovely.
I just don't need to know it or I need
to know it from you. I don't know that. But
it's not like he does you know what I'm saying.
It's not like the other headline. Yeah no, So that's

(08:44):
where I'm like, we've been in those headlines. We have
long enough. Did you want to move to your other
headline that you're bamily grave It's really been a week

(09:05):
for you this one. Oh by the way, though, the
thing that he did say, He's like, it's just so
silly how they say the confession about sex life, like
they make it such a dramatic headline where it was
just an open conversation people actually listen to the podcast. Well,
it's also was on a podcast. It wasn't like he
got some film in the back of a cab or something, right,

(09:26):
so it's like his masturbating confession, Like, Okay, we were
having a conversation, let's get in context. But unfortunately people
just see the headlines and the people that already think
I'm TMI and share too much, you know, they're going
to think the same thing. They're going to think you
met your match and that's perfect. Yeah, carry on, right,
which the farthest thing from when because he's so private,

(09:48):
But again, in hopes to help people, we did get
a lot of dms that people, you know, said that
they appreciated it. So I also think it's a share
on a lot of couples don't have right like I
did it for a very long time because I just
didn't know. He's on the road a lot. Interesting though,
pull from our Instagram, sixty two percent of women don't

(10:09):
care if their partner's masturbate. So do you think sixty
two percent of women are tired and would rather him
do that than Because I think you and I are
a little bit rare in the fact that we still, like,
super enjoy sex with our partner. Yeah, I like, you know,
even just a pull from other friends, it's kind of like, oh, okay,
well just at least then he's tired, and I don't,
you know, write those comments kind of break my heart

(10:31):
a little. So I wonder if sixty two percent of
women just take a deep breath and go listen. He's
getting what he needs and I get a rest. Yeah.
And the sexpert was also saying on the show that men,
for their prostate, they need to they should like once
a day or something. I think it was like four
times a week. Oh maybe my husband, maybe he's maybe less.

(10:54):
End of the episode. Am I getting misinformation once a day? Baby?
Or I'm gonna die? Okay? You said so oh to
the next headline about you, this sucks. I mean, you
really had a week and I didn't see this one coming.

(11:16):
Neither did I. I mean, but it's a hot topic.
Apparently this is tricky for me. It was tricky for
me when we had the top before it. So this
headline you made, you made news waves creamer because you
said that you don't put sunscreen on your children. You
didn't say ever, I appreciate us weekly. I can go
on record saying that because it says why she doesn't

(11:38):
always thank you you soundscreen? So I appreciate And same
thing with you know people. They also said that, you
know the always comment. There was one that I kind
of glanced at that said basically, you're packing light and
must have all this extra room in your bag because
you don't carry the sound screen with you. And I

(11:58):
was like, you know what, I'm gonna give you a
couple of points for just the spin on that, because
now we're now we're talking about mom totes and this
is just getting awesome. But other than that, I was
kind of like, this is a wreck. I was here
for that conversation. That is not what you said. No.
I also, this is so tricky because I so I
lost someone that I love deeply from melanoma, like my

(12:21):
whole heart, and I watched it take her and I
can't even say anything more because it's just emotional, like
I can go back in that minute to like the
smell of hospice and all of it, and it's really
really difficult. And so I'm not, by any means like
I'm a sunscreener. I have it on my face right now.
I don't always want to go down to all flames together.

(12:43):
I don't always unscreen my kids either, because I do
think there's a healthy dose of vitamin D that we need,
and I know that things that we put on our
skin do block those things. Also, I can't have my
kids out all day without it because they would just
fry I in the early morning or when we sunset swim.
When we sunset swim, I don't put it on them.

(13:06):
So I guess I'm confused why everyone thinks that we
should just be like zinked up every second of every day,
because actually the sun is healing for us too. So
I had eighty percent positive people come to my defense
about it, about the warnings of what is in sunscreens
and how we do need the vitamin D and all

(13:30):
of that. Then I had the other people that would
come in and be like, you're an idiot, and then
would say what they wanted to. I replied to a
few of them and said no need for name calling.
Correct I didn't say always. And there is I think
a for me. I'm just doing what I think is
best for my kids. I would never let my children

(13:52):
just burn out in the sun, of course you wouldn't.
So I think there's and I also think there's a
also not derm dologist. So I don't know, but I'm
also open to the research on all sides of it, yes,
and welcome all of that. I have seen so much
negative stuff about sunscreen, what it can do, what it

(14:13):
can cause. I've also seen the negative things that I've
read about the sun and what it can do and
what it can cause. I think there's a healthy balance
between the two. I think we need both, yes, but
I don't think and we don't need excess of both.
I think we also need the right sunscreen. Right, that's
our problem because there's so much there's so many toxins
and added things into so many of these that if

(14:37):
you're putting that on and then you're just sitting and
frying in the sun, well, yeah, then you're just baking
in really bad ingredients into your skin, which is your
largest organ. And for me, I like my kids. Roman
he wears long sleeve swim shrimp stuff all the time,
so it Jolie wears a lot of her long sleeves.
So it's really just I put their neck, their ears, yeah,

(15:00):
and sometimes on their legs. Again, if we're going to
a beach a long day being all day out in
the sun for a couple hours, no, I'm not going
to and that's okay, And that's okay, or a couple
hours it is. Again, I would not let my kids fry.
And I'm open to anything kindly that someone wants to
flood into my DMS in a nice manner. Call me
an idiot, you'll get blocked. Hey, I blocked my first person.

(15:22):
Oh it's so great. It was most of the time
I blocked. But sometimes I'll just say, do you think
calling someone this is the right move too? Yeah? I
think that's I let this person go on for probably
two years, and every single it would be like a sandwich, right,
There'd be like three wonderful things and then just something
really negative. And it was always about Preston, And I
was like, you know what, this is my best friend, father,

(15:45):
the father of my children, and I'm all done here.
So I said that to her. We are still people.
I've tried to be really kind and now I'm all done. Yeah,
but it's empowering. I just think the name calling piece
is the part of it. Like any mom. No mom
is nailing it anyways. No, And even though we talk
about our moms on here, there's we're not nailing it.

(16:07):
How's that going? I am I am a decline, Well,
no call because I don't want to talk about it.
Can we just get back to just being everything? Fine? Yeah?
I don't know. This is my person. We overshare and
then we have to deal with headlines worse mom ever,
light bag tote not getting pulled over at TSA for sunscreen?
Too big? Are you creamer? They're so rude. You know

(16:30):
I love you and unless you sorry, it's been a
rough week. In the headline, it's no, But honestly, it's
one of those things where the people out there that
already hate me hate me and just fuels them to
have those That's fine, I know why we share, and
we'll continue to share, but it does suck to see
a headline out of context. Yes, and that will probably

(16:53):
continue to happen even today, So stay tuned for the
next episode. That should be a game. Part of our
segment should just be what was the headline? You can
do your breaking news plee boo boo boo boo boo.
Pep peep, peep, peep peep. Say you next week. Him
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