August 28, 2025 • 19 mins
Daisy Kent stole our hearts on Joey Graziadei's season of The Bachelor, but Jana's ready to hear how she found love off the show!
Daisy opens up about her relationship with a guy who shares his name with a Norse god, and why this season of life has her feel like she's finally "adulting".
Plus, Daisy reveals the secrets of sorority life through her new iHeartRadio podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Kramer, you didn't go to college? Sure didn't, thanks, friend?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Is that the opening for you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I actually did, but it was like, literally I said
I had to go to the bathroom and I never
came back.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's incredible. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean I.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It was a community college.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And again, so it's like I always say I didn't
go because I really didn't, you know what I mean,
Like I did go, and then I did like a
half of an acting class, I did the psychology class,
and I was sitting there, I'm like, can I go
to the bathroom? And I literally, I mean that's the thing.
I have such memory loss from so many years of
my life. But all I know is that I didn't
(00:46):
stay longer than a month. So it's like when people
are like, jee to college. No, I didn't go to college.
It's not college. Yeah, I think it's well one month
of you know, I mean I might have maybe it
was even like two of the I think I maybe
went to like two classes and I was like this
ain't for me. Pece out. Yeah, I just did it
because I thought I was supposed to. Yeah, you know,
well that's why you know, while this generation coming up,
(01:10):
it's like, if you're not, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Really bad advice.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Actually think if you're not, if you're not going to
be a doctor or a you know, math, I don't know,
like if it's a doctor or a lawyer, it's like
do you really need It's like there's like if you
don't need the degree. Most people that I know have
just so much money in debt with colleges. They're not
(01:33):
using it at all. Like if you need it for
a certain job, to have your masters and something, then
one thousand percent go. But like besides that, even Joli,
it's like, well I'm not going to go because I'm
gonna do X Y, and like a good you don't
go for a girl. We didn't make a college fadream
we made for our kids. They don't have college funds.
They have whatever that is that allows them to just
tap into this resource to use it for whatever they
(01:55):
want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's like, what do you want to do and then
let's choose the best avenue to get to where you
want to go. Well, it's kind of wild for us
to be deciding what we want to spend all of
this money and time studying at eighteen, Right, that's crazy,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I did do it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't do it as sorority, which I don't know
if I could do, but I did do it. Alpha
Zy Delta, What was the craziest thing you did? Initiation?
See that part just gives me like, no, And what
was wild is I came in with this really exceptional
group of humans and I'm still those are still my humans.
So it's like we were friends before sorority, and we
(02:34):
were also the ones that could look across the room
at each other when these things were going on and
being like they're kidding us, right, like yeah, because it
was everybody's like life and air and it was not mine.
I had to work through college, so I missed Teddy
Bear Pass and I didn't have a parking spot behind
the house because I didn't have enough merit points because
I couldn't make it to enough events because I was
working five jobs. You know, it was like a little bittersweet,
(02:56):
but the memories are great, the experience is awesome. It
was not as intense as it is now and not
as intense as it is in the South, and it
was eastern Michigan you know, so it was I think
if I wanted to do it, I'd want to be
like the uh which I MC call it the hed
hesitant president, Like I want to be the president. You'd
make a good president things, Yeah, but probably not, No,
(03:18):
you would. But it is familiar of sororities. She was
on the Bachelor, but now she's got a podcast about sororities.
So let's get her on and chat all about it. Hey.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hey, I'm Jana Kristen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Nice to meet you, guys.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Daisy. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I am twenty six?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was like, gosh, twenty six. I was like, because
she's just said that youthful collagen energy. What is your
favorite thing about being twenty six and your least favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So my favorite thing is that I feel like I'm
adult team, but that's probably my least favorite thing.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like fun but also.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Not Daisy, You've done a lot at twenty six. I
think it's exciting because you were on the Bachelor, Yeah, Bachelorette, Bachelor,
yea bachelor, And I think anybody that does the reality
does reality TV in their twenties is the unsung hero.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And I also.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Appreciate that you didn't stay doing reality TV?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I feel like you don't know what you're getting
yourself into until you like do it and then you're.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like whoa, And did you go on the show to
be to actually find love? Was it to get to
jump into because I feel like a lot of influencers
are not sorry, I should say a lot of reality
people that go on those shows end up being then
influencers or doing other things. Was it to truly find
love or was it to be able to have Okay,
(04:44):
I can go this way with my career and be
an influencer and do this and do do you know
now a podcast? So what was it for you that
was your The main drive?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Definitely to like fine love.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I don't think I would have done it if I
wasn't like trying to find somebody, honestly. But also I had,
like I had like a really life changing year, like
the past year in my life, and so I was
kind of like, Okay, this is happening, like it must
be part of my plan and that I'm like supposed
to do it. So I just kind of went into
it and I was like just with like open to
(05:18):
anything that came from it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So I didn't have a plan for anything at all.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And then I definitely didn't expect to get like the
feedback that I got from the show at all.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
What was your feedback that you got?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, it was just like because I know in past seasons,
like when they were looking at like how the show
had like done, it hadn't done as well. And then
the season I was on for some reason and all
of a sudden did like.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Really really well.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And I remember after like the second episode, I think
by following it like grew over, like I think it
was over like two hundred and fifty K and I
was like, what is happening.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I remember being like, this is so weird. What do
you think it was? Do you think it was the Bachelor?
Because I think a lot of times like I didn't.
I truthfully, I didn't watch that season, but yeah, if
any of the seasons that I would have probably watched
his because he seemed like a good dude as opposed
to maybe some of the other guys. I'm like, oh,
I'm not watching this. This is you know, he doesn't
seem like he's got good intentions.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I think everyone was very intrigued in him. And
then I feel like right off the bat it had.
We had a really like interesting group of girls. Everyone
had something like that had happened in their life or
that was going on in their life. So I think
it was just really interesting and a lot of people
related to a lot of different people on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Especially you rolling up with your Christmas tree farm red truck.
I mean, we really kicked it to the Midwest roots
because you. I think what's really special too is how
just true to yourself you seemed. And I didn't watch
all of this, but I do know it's it's less
likely for someone to be offered another show and to
not do it, So that speaks to your character quite
(06:59):
a bit, I would say, right, because you didn't want
to do Bachelor in Paradises in those right?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I just had I like I said that last year.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It was super life changing and I was kind of like,
I think I need to take a seck. I was like,
I'm at a really good spot and like I'm really
happy and like a lot has changed, and so I
felt like I needed to soak that all in before
I jumped into something else, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And did you get back with your ex boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Are you guys together now? Yeah, okay, so was he
did he see you on the show and he was
like no, no, no, no, I want you back? Or did
you not want to be with because I know Joe
was he wanted to be with you, but was it
just did you think about your ex boyfriend and go, okay,
we actually want to be with him?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No? Not at all.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So we hadn't been together for like four and a
half five years. We dated when we were like nineteen,
so we'd be like yeah, so we were like very young,
and then we dated for a little under a year
and then broke up. We were good friends before and
we were like, we're better as friends, so then we
just went back to being friends. We like had the
same friend group in college and everything, and I think
(08:09):
because we were friends before, we were able to do
that and we didn't date like a super long time.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And then after the show was.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Done, then some of my friends were like, have you
talked to him at all? And I was like no,
why and they were like, I think he should talk
to him, and so then we like talked to me.
He was like I still like love you and want
to be with you, and I was like, wait, what
is going on?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Did you question his intention.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It was so like it had been so long.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, did you question his intention at all? Coming back
to say.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
No, not at all, because he's honestly, like, through when
we broke up and everything, he's always been like one
of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
Like he's just such like a kind, good person. So
I never had to question anything.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And you guys went to San Diego State together, is
that right?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah? Yeah, we went to San Diego State.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's incredible. And now you just build a house together.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, which feels like a really big adult thing to
do at twenty six years old. Yeah, is Thor gonna
put a ring on this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Or what is love? By the way?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, just want a name, right, It's funny when we
say our name and yeah before like wait, is that
you guys are.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Very twisted like Disney Literally.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, we're not like pressuring anything, so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But the house is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean we definitely like I wouldn't have moved there,
like he wasn't my forever person.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So okay, So now you have a podcast out and
it's called The Dirty Rush about uncovering the secrets, pressures,
and power dynamics of Greek life through interviews and personal stories.
So I didn't go to college. I have my idea
of what sororities are like, and I feel like I
wouldn't have been a sorority girl.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think that I would like to say that's accurate,
but I also girling there though.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's the thing because I say that, and then I'm like,
I think, you know, maybe I would have liked it,
but also I don't know if I could have handled.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
All the girls. The tolerance is low.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, my tolerance for it all would be like yeah,
then stop drinking, stop throwing up, stop like yeah, because
I think I had to because I was that way
with my girlfriends in high school, where it's like I
was the one holding their hair or I was the
one driving them home.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Like I didn't have that. I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That need to want to be drunk or drink or
be in that school crowd.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I guess I needed you to hold my hair. So,
as long as we're being honest.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So I maybe my misconception and I just feel like
my I guess my misconception of sororities is that, yes,
there's a a I see two sides of it, right,
I see my legally blonde like the girls are all
together and they're they're there for each other. But then
I'm like, but isn't it just a bunch of girls?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like back two? Well, I think girls in your twenties
is tricky.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Anyways, Yeah, definitely. I did not want to be in
a sorority at all.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I didn't even know what it was. And then my
roommate quin Or, convinced me to rush, and so I
did it. And at the beginning, I was like, this
is crazy. I don't know why I'm doing this, but
I ended up actually loving it, and like some of
my best friends are from it still. So the podcast
has been fun because a lot of people call in
and like give their stories. I had a good experience,
(11:27):
but I know not everyone can say that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Isn't rushing dangerous? Like the things that I've seen about it,
it can be quite dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Not for girls. I think that's more so for guys.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, yeah, I did not have so I went to
college when you were one, so that's exciting, and so
things were a little different. I was in Alpha Zy
Delta and our rush was coming off of the heels
of all the big hazing scandal at the time, So
like hazing was very like unallowed and they were really
super sensitive to it. So I didn't have to do
(11:59):
like the extended. My hazing was like, you know, like
funny or cute. It wasn't like Circle of the Fat
was sharpie or anything crazy. It was your experience, like
with rush and and so did it deter you at
all from wanting to be part of a sorty So I.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was honestly like speed dating.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I actually compared when I was doing like interviews to
go on The Bachelor, I like compared it to sorority Rush.
It was like you're just talking to all these girls
and going into different houses and stuff, and then I
ended up being an alpha fy. But then after that
there was just like initiation and like random things like that.
But we never had like hazing or anything. That was
(12:42):
never a part of it. It was just like fun
little things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, what sort of tea is being spilled the podcast?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So a lot of it there's like girls calling in
that had like bad experiences, girls that had good experiences.
There's moms calling in and telling their experience. The moms
get really into it about their kids, which I mean,
of course, you like love your kids more than anything,
So hearing what the moms have bad to say has
been super intriguing to me. And then girls like calling
(13:23):
for advice too, which is fun to talk to them
about that also, So I think it's not so much
like we're not trying, We're not saying like being in
a sororities bad, or like this is the bad stuff
that comes out of it, but also like the good stuff,
and especially right now that like recruitment's going on right now,
it's really interesting to hear all the things different girls
(13:44):
have to say when they call in, and it's all anonymous,
so I feel like that makes it interesting because you
see all these girls. Also, social media is such a
big aspect of it, and so you see all these
girls like on TikTok talking about their experience and everything,
but like you can't say anything bad or you'll get
kicked out and stuff like that. So it's interesting with
our podcast because people call in and we'll tell us
(14:05):
all these stories.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What is like the juiciest thing you've heard?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I think honestly hearing the mom's perspective because I didn't
expect moms to be calling in but hearing them like
say about like they have to like go to the girls'
school and they have this whole wardrobe for the girls
and all these things that we hear about it. Like
I didn't realize. I knew, especially in the South, it
was like pretty intense, but I didn't realize it was
(14:31):
that intense.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Even the setting up of like the Soorty house is
way different, Like these things look like retreats, like yeah,
but they look like hotels now. I mean if you
there wasn't even Instagram when I was in college, but
if you could see what we were living in. I mean,
we were really in it for the actual connection with
the girls. It was not we weren't in it for
(14:53):
the perks of the house. It was It'silanti, Michigan, A
little dingy. Yeah, everything so sweet.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So do you feel like do any of the guys
ever call in?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But they should.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, you need to because they get it a lot
worse for sure. And I think that there is unfortunately,
like a layer that they go through where they're not
allowed to say so much. I mean, oh Duddy is
supposed to say anything. But I feel like guys have
that like masculine piece too. That makes them a little
less likely to say anything that has really happened that
might be detrimental.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, no, I agree, that would be interesting, So guys
call in.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, what was your least favorite part about being in ausurety?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I think my least favorite part was probably at the beginning,
like great when I got into it, because college at
the beginning is weird, like you don't know anyone, especially
I was coming from out of state. I literally knew
knew no one when I got to college, and so
you're trying to figure out like who your friends are
and when you like get there. And my sorority was
pretty big, so I think just finding my like group
(16:01):
within my sorority took a little bit of time. But
I also think it was great because like it made
you maintain a certain GPA, like made you like not
get in trouble at events and things, and like drink
super heavy, So I think it like it also like
held you to like a standard too, which I thought
was good.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
For you personally. What do you struggle with the most
in being in the in the spotlight as a twenty
six twenty seven year old, Like, what are you going
through that's that's hard for you right now.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think for me like knowing like what to share
and like what not to share, and I've always been
I think that's the reason people related to me so
well on the show is because I did share a
lot about my personal life and things that I was
going through, but then also knowing like my like relationship
isn't like super like it's like public. Everyone knows, like
(16:52):
I have a boyfriend and stuff like that, but like
I don't like share a lot about him, and so
I think kind of like finding a balance between like
what I want to share and like what I want
my life to look like, if that makes sense. That's
been a little difficult for me, trying to figure out
that balance, I would say, and also being I think
being twenty six and like being on a reality a
(17:14):
reality show when all of a sudden, like I wasn't
doing any of this before, and then it like comes
in also fast. So I think the first year was
just me trying to figure out like what I was
doing because I was like, this.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Is like so different.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I was doing software sales before, so it really my
life changed really fast. But it's also so much the
same too, and so now it's figuring out exactly, like
what I want to do with my platform.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Is your drive to want to do the show? Is
it because dating is tough? It feels like dating is
tough for your age group right now.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh, it definitely is.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I have so many friends that are just like it's like,
I feel like it's a weird time because there's all
these like social media apps. But then like a lot
of my friends like want to meet people like organically,
like out places. But I also think it takes guys
a lot longer to mature, so I would agree, yeah,
(18:15):
trouble that. So I think it is definitely a weird time.
But and I like the podcast too because I remember
when I was starting college, like I felt alone at
times and like I didn't know what I was doing
or like who I wanted to be with job I
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I feel like a reason for me doing.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
The podcast is like I just want like younger people
to know too, like you don't have to have it
all figured out like nobody does.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, meant to well, everyone go listen to Dirty Rush Daisy,
thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Best of luck.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, that's all guys. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, bye Girl, Bye Daisy,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Kramer, you didn't go to college? Sure didn't, thanks, friend?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Is that the opening for you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I actually did, but it was like, literally I said
I had to go to the bathroom and I never
came back.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's incredible. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean I.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It was a community college.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And again, so it's like I always say I didn't
go because I really didn't, you know what I mean,
Like I did go, and then I did like a
half of an acting class, I did the psychology class,
and I was sitting there, I'm like, can I go
to the bathroom? And I literally, I mean that's the thing.
I have such memory loss from so many years of
my life. But all I know is that I didn't
(00:46):
stay longer than a month. So it's like when people
are like, jee to college. No, I didn't go to college.
It's not college. Yeah, I think it's well one month
of you know, I mean I might have maybe it
was even like two of the I think I maybe
went to like two classes and I was like this
ain't for me. Pece out. Yeah, I just did it
because I thought I was supposed to. Yeah, you know,
well that's why you know, while this generation coming up,
(01:10):
it's like, if you're not, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Really bad advice.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Actually think if you're not, if you're not going to
be a doctor or a you know, math, I don't know,
like if it's a doctor or a lawyer, it's like
do you really need It's like there's like if you
don't need the degree. Most people that I know have
just so much money in debt with colleges. They're not
(01:33):
using it at all. Like if you need it for
a certain job, to have your masters and something, then
one thousand percent go. But like besides that, even Joli,
it's like, well I'm not going to go because I'm
gonna do X Y, and like a good you don't
go for a girl. We didn't make a college fadream
we made for our kids. They don't have college funds.
They have whatever that is that allows them to just
tap into this resource to use it for whatever they
(01:55):
want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's like, what do you want to do and then
let's choose the best avenue to get to where you
want to go. Well, it's kind of wild for us
to be deciding what we want to spend all of
this money and time studying at eighteen, Right, that's crazy,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I did do it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I didn't do it as sorority, which I don't know
if I could do, but I did do it. Alpha
Zy Delta, What was the craziest thing you did? Initiation?
See that part just gives me like, no, And what
was wild is I came in with this really exceptional
group of humans and I'm still those are still my humans.
So it's like we were friends before sorority, and we
(02:34):
were also the ones that could look across the room
at each other when these things were going on and
being like they're kidding us, right, like yeah, because it
was everybody's like life and air and it was not mine.
I had to work through college, so I missed Teddy
Bear Pass and I didn't have a parking spot behind
the house because I didn't have enough merit points because
I couldn't make it to enough events because I was
working five jobs. You know, it was like a little bittersweet,
(02:56):
but the memories are great, the experience is awesome. It
was not as intense as it is now and not
as intense as it is in the South, and it
was eastern Michigan you know, so it was I think
if I wanted to do it, I'd want to be
like the uh which I MC call it the hed
hesitant president, Like I want to be the president. You'd
make a good president things, Yeah, but probably not, No,
(03:18):
you would. But it is familiar of sororities. She was
on the Bachelor, but now she's got a podcast about sororities.
So let's get her on and chat all about it. Hey.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hey, I'm Jana Kristen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Nice to meet you, guys.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Daisy. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I am twenty six?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was like, gosh, twenty six. I was like, because
she's just said that youthful collagen energy. What is your
favorite thing about being twenty six and your least favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So my favorite thing is that I feel like I'm
adult team, but that's probably my least favorite thing.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like fun but also.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Not Daisy, You've done a lot at twenty six. I
think it's exciting because you were on the Bachelor, Yeah, Bachelorette, Bachelor,
yea bachelor, And I think anybody that does the reality
does reality TV in their twenties is the unsung hero.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And I also.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Appreciate that you didn't stay doing reality TV?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I feel like you don't know what you're getting
yourself into until you like do it and then you're.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like whoa, And did you go on the show to
be to actually find love? Was it to get to
jump into because I feel like a lot of influencers
are not sorry, I should say a lot of reality
people that go on those shows end up being then
influencers or doing other things. Was it to truly find
love or was it to be able to have Okay,
(04:44):
I can go this way with my career and be
an influencer and do this and do do you know
now a podcast? So what was it for you that
was your The main drive?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Definitely to like fine love.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I don't think I would have done it if I
wasn't like trying to find somebody, honestly. But also I had,
like I had like a really life changing year, like
the past year in my life, and so I was
kind of like, Okay, this is happening, like it must
be part of my plan and that I'm like supposed
to do it. So I just kind of went into
it and I was like just with like open to
(05:18):
anything that came from it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So I didn't have a plan for anything at all.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And then I definitely didn't expect to get like the
feedback that I got from the show at all.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
What was your feedback that you got?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, it was just like because I know in past seasons,
like when they were looking at like how the show
had like done, it hadn't done as well. And then
the season I was on for some reason and all
of a sudden did like.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Really really well.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And I remember after like the second episode, I think
by following it like grew over, like I think it
was over like two hundred and fifty K and I
was like, what is happening.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I remember being like, this is so weird. What do
you think it was? Do you think it was the Bachelor?
Because I think a lot of times like I didn't.
I truthfully, I didn't watch that season, but yeah, if
any of the seasons that I would have probably watched
his because he seemed like a good dude as opposed
to maybe some of the other guys. I'm like, oh,
I'm not watching this. This is you know, he doesn't
seem like he's got good intentions.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I think everyone was very intrigued in him. And
then I feel like right off the bat it had.
We had a really like interesting group of girls. Everyone
had something like that had happened in their life or
that was going on in their life. So I think
it was just really interesting and a lot of people
related to a lot of different people on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Especially you rolling up with your Christmas tree farm red truck.
I mean, we really kicked it to the Midwest roots
because you. I think what's really special too is how
just true to yourself you seemed. And I didn't watch
all of this, but I do know it's it's less
likely for someone to be offered another show and to
not do it, So that speaks to your character quite
(06:59):
a bit, I would say, right, because you didn't want
to do Bachelor in Paradises in those right?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I just had I like I said that last year.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It was super life changing and I was kind of like,
I think I need to take a seck. I was like,
I'm at a really good spot and like I'm really
happy and like a lot has changed, and so I
felt like I needed to soak that all in before
I jumped into something else, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And did you get back with your ex boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Are you guys together now? Yeah, okay, so was he
did he see you on the show and he was
like no, no, no, no, I want you back? Or did
you not want to be with because I know Joe
was he wanted to be with you, but was it
just did you think about your ex boyfriend and go, okay,
we actually want to be with him?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No? Not at all.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So we hadn't been together for like four and a
half five years. We dated when we were like nineteen,
so we'd be like yeah, so we were like very young,
and then we dated for a little under a year
and then broke up. We were good friends before and
we were like, we're better as friends, so then we
just went back to being friends. We like had the
same friend group in college and everything, and I think
(08:09):
because we were friends before, we were able to do
that and we didn't date like a super long time.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And then after the show was.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Done, then some of my friends were like, have you
talked to him at all? And I was like no,
why and they were like, I think he should talk
to him, and so then we like talked to me.
He was like I still like love you and want
to be with you, and I was like, wait, what
is going on?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Did you question his intention.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It was so like it had been so long.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, did you question his intention at all? Coming back
to say.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
No, not at all, because he's honestly, like, through when
we broke up and everything, he's always been like one
of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
Like he's just such like a kind, good person. So
I never had to question anything.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And you guys went to San Diego State together, is
that right?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah? Yeah, we went to San Diego State.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's incredible. And now you just build a house together.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, which feels like a really big adult thing to
do at twenty six years old. Yeah, is Thor gonna
put a ring on this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Or what is love? By the way?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, just want a name, right, It's funny when we
say our name and yeah before like wait, is that
you guys are.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Very twisted like Disney Literally.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, we're not like pressuring anything, so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But the house is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean we definitely like I wouldn't have moved there,
like he wasn't my forever person.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So okay, So now you have a podcast out and
it's called The Dirty Rush about uncovering the secrets, pressures,
and power dynamics of Greek life through interviews and personal stories.
So I didn't go to college. I have my idea
of what sororities are like, and I feel like I
wouldn't have been a sorority girl.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think that I would like to say that's accurate,
but I also girling there though.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's the thing because I say that, and then I'm like,
I think, you know, maybe I would have liked it,
but also I don't know if I could have handled.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
All the girls. The tolerance is low.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, my tolerance for it all would be like yeah,
then stop drinking, stop throwing up, stop like yeah, because
I think I had to because I was that way
with my girlfriends in high school, where it's like I
was the one holding their hair or I was the
one driving them home.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Like I didn't have that. I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That need to want to be drunk or drink or
be in that school crowd.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I guess I needed you to hold my hair. So,
as long as we're being honest.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So I maybe my misconception and I just feel like
my I guess my misconception of sororities is that, yes,
there's a a I see two sides of it, right,
I see my legally blonde like the girls are all
together and they're they're there for each other. But then
I'm like, but isn't it just a bunch of girls?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like back two? Well, I think girls in your twenties
is tricky.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Anyways, Yeah, definitely. I did not want to be in
a sorority at all.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I didn't even know what it was. And then my
roommate quin Or, convinced me to rush, and so I
did it. And at the beginning, I was like, this
is crazy. I don't know why I'm doing this, but
I ended up actually loving it, and like some of
my best friends are from it still. So the podcast
has been fun because a lot of people call in
and like give their stories. I had a good experience,
(11:27):
but I know not everyone can say that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Isn't rushing dangerous? Like the things that I've seen about it,
it can be quite dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Not for girls. I think that's more so for guys.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, yeah, I did not have so I went to
college when you were one, so that's exciting, and so
things were a little different. I was in Alpha Zy
Delta and our rush was coming off of the heels
of all the big hazing scandal at the time, So
like hazing was very like unallowed and they were really
super sensitive to it. So I didn't have to do
(11:59):
like the extended. My hazing was like, you know, like
funny or cute. It wasn't like Circle of the Fat
was sharpie or anything crazy. It was your experience, like
with rush and and so did it deter you at
all from wanting to be part of a sorty So I.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was honestly like speed dating.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I actually compared when I was doing like interviews to
go on The Bachelor, I like compared it to sorority Rush.
It was like you're just talking to all these girls
and going into different houses and stuff, and then I
ended up being an alpha fy. But then after that
there was just like initiation and like random things like that.
But we never had like hazing or anything. That was
(12:42):
never a part of it. It was just like fun
little things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, what sort of tea is being spilled the podcast?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So a lot of it there's like girls calling in
that had like bad experiences, girls that had good experiences.
There's moms calling in and telling their experience. The moms
get really into it about their kids, which I mean,
of course, you like love your kids more than anything,
So hearing what the moms have bad to say has
been super intriguing to me. And then girls like calling
(13:23):
for advice too, which is fun to talk to them
about that also, So I think it's not so much
like we're not trying, We're not saying like being in
a sororities bad, or like this is the bad stuff
that comes out of it, but also like the good stuff,
and especially right now that like recruitment's going on right now,
it's really interesting to hear all the things different girls
(13:44):
have to say when they call in, and it's all anonymous,
so I feel like that makes it interesting because you
see all these girls. Also, social media is such a
big aspect of it, and so you see all these
girls like on TikTok talking about their experience and everything,
but like you can't say anything bad or you'll get
kicked out and stuff like that. So it's interesting with
our podcast because people call in and we'll tell us
(14:05):
all these stories.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What is like the juiciest thing you've heard?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I think honestly hearing the mom's perspective because I didn't
expect moms to be calling in but hearing them like
say about like they have to like go to the girls'
school and they have this whole wardrobe for the girls
and all these things that we hear about it. Like
I didn't realize. I knew, especially in the South, it
was like pretty intense, but I didn't realize it was
(14:31):
that intense.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Even the setting up of like the Soorty house is
way different, Like these things look like retreats, like yeah,
but they look like hotels now. I mean if you
there wasn't even Instagram when I was in college, but
if you could see what we were living in. I mean,
we were really in it for the actual connection with
the girls. It was not we weren't in it for
(14:53):
the perks of the house. It was It'silanti, Michigan, A
little dingy. Yeah, everything so sweet.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So do you feel like do any of the guys
ever call in?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But they should.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, you need to because they get it a lot
worse for sure. And I think that there is unfortunately,
like a layer that they go through where they're not
allowed to say so much. I mean, oh Duddy is
supposed to say anything. But I feel like guys have
that like masculine piece too. That makes them a little
less likely to say anything that has really happened that
might be detrimental.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, no, I agree, that would be interesting, So guys
call in.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, what was your least favorite part about being in ausurety?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I think my least favorite part was probably at the beginning,
like great when I got into it, because college at
the beginning is weird, like you don't know anyone, especially
I was coming from out of state. I literally knew
knew no one when I got to college, and so
you're trying to figure out like who your friends are
and when you like get there. And my sorority was
pretty big, so I think just finding my like group
(16:01):
within my sorority took a little bit of time. But
I also think it was great because like it made
you maintain a certain GPA, like made you like not
get in trouble at events and things, and like drink
super heavy, So I think it like it also like
held you to like a standard too, which I thought
was good.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
For you personally. What do you struggle with the most
in being in the in the spotlight as a twenty
six twenty seven year old, Like, what are you going
through that's that's hard for you right now.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think for me like knowing like what to share
and like what not to share, and I've always been
I think that's the reason people related to me so
well on the show is because I did share a
lot about my personal life and things that I was
going through, but then also knowing like my like relationship
isn't like super like it's like public. Everyone knows, like
(16:52):
I have a boyfriend and stuff like that, but like
I don't like share a lot about him, and so
I think kind of like finding a balance between like
what I want to share and like what I want
my life to look like, if that makes sense. That's
been a little difficult for me, trying to figure out
that balance, I would say, and also being I think
being twenty six and like being on a reality a
(17:14):
reality show when all of a sudden, like I wasn't
doing any of this before, and then it like comes
in also fast. So I think the first year was
just me trying to figure out like what I was
doing because I was like, this.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Is like so different.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I was doing software sales before, so it really my
life changed really fast. But it's also so much the
same too, and so now it's figuring out exactly, like
what I want to do with my platform.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Is your drive to want to do the show? Is
it because dating is tough? It feels like dating is
tough for your age group right now.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh, it definitely is.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I have so many friends that are just like it's like,
I feel like it's a weird time because there's all
these like social media apps. But then like a lot
of my friends like want to meet people like organically,
like out places. But I also think it takes guys
a lot longer to mature, so I would agree, yeah,
(18:15):
trouble that. So I think it is definitely a weird time.
But and I like the podcast too because I remember
when I was starting college, like I felt alone at
times and like I didn't know what I was doing
or like who I wanted to be with job I
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So I feel like a reason for me doing.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
The podcast is like I just want like younger people
to know too, like you don't have to have it
all figured out like nobody does.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, meant to well, everyone go listen to Dirty Rush Daisy,
thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Best of luck.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, that's all guys. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, bye Girl, Bye Daisy,
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