Super Digress

It’s time to unpin some topics we’ve put a pin in, but there’s too much to get into! Jana witnessed some terrible parenting at the airport, which leads us to ask… how do you deal with negative people??

 

Kristen went through some old photos in the attic and she has some words of advice for any young people who struggle with body image.

Plus, how do you know when friends are there for a reason, a season, or a lifetime??

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, hi, Hey, I'm sorry about the Starbucks stilima
this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh the thing got it, I know, I know it
was funny. I got the text she said Starbucks anyone,
and guys, I got up at four and I've stayed up.
Why I because Preston had a flight and I couldn't
go back to sleep.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh it's weird.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I have never been this girl. But you said Starbucks anyone,
and I missed it by I knew. I reapplied two
minutes later and I already know the I know the window.
We're all operating it. And I was like, I've missed it.
I go, I do am I too late?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah? I was like two minutes or something, but I
know I did something really bad last year on this day. Yeah, no,
June fifth, I forgot to call my dad and his birthday.
Oh oh. It was one of those where I'm like
so today, I was like, he was like six, first

(00:59):
child that is saying to me today. I was like, well,
I was also the child that didn't call you last year.
And then when I got off the phone was when
I was like, all right, I gotta go like, and
then I saw yours, and I'm like, craps, let me
go back to my little doordasher. Because I didn't send
a time to go get it right, Catherine made called
me out one time about what we what we DoorDash

(01:24):
and what we don't door dash. Right, we need to.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Tell this story. Actually, yeah, I'm in story to me.
I think it's a good story.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm interested. Okay, go ahead, you can tell it, sod same.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, we're out of town. I don't even know where
we are, probably Wilmington.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, we were in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, in Oklahoma, Okay, I just remember we
were in bed Yeah, we talked about the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
We just sat there at beds. You did you just
think of me? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And five things we love about Kristin go. I just
was a little nervous about the accuracy and reporting. We
didn't know the location. Go ahead, continue, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I just remember that she got like a ring doorbell
thing and she was like, oh is.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
It ethy oofy eu f y.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know, oofy, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So she gets like a thing and she's like, oh,
who's at the house, And She's like, oh, it's probably
door dash and I was like, okay, you know, just
like thinking. She was like, you know, it's just like
does he just like drive you crazy when like man
like like they DoorDash beer, Like he's gonna door like
I guarantee you he doordashed beer, Like why not just

(02:35):
go to the store and get the beer, like go
through this whole thing. And I'm like, all I can
think in my head, it's like, you DoorDash Starbucks every day?
Say that every day.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Okay, I've stopped you, but you say you stopped you
did for I did sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I just went through a phase. I went through a
face and this is coming from the door. It was
a new born phase of door dashing.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Coming from someone that will DoorDash, like five of us
will DoorDash every day. So I am not judging door dash.
I love a DoorDash. I just thought it was very funny.
So I sat there for a while in silence, and
then I was like I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I can't hold it back anymore. I was like I
just have to fire out too.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was like, so, how is that any different from
door dashing Tarbucks?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
And I said, I don't even remember you said that,
Remember I go, well, first I looked at you like
they's alcoholic and one's not. Like one's alcohol and one's not.
Be like, how dare you call me up that I go,
I go, oh oh, I guess it's not any different,
And I was like, ew, it's not.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think your point was not that it was beer
being beer, it was that it was door dashed. At first,
I thought the point was that it was beer, and
you were just like, eh, I don't love that he's
like having beer. So I was like, okay, cool, Like
I get that. But she's like, no, it's the fact,
like go to the store and get the beer. And
I was like okay, well now, and I'm like you should.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Just a beer, right. It was that it was for me,
it just seemed like we're delivering alcohol, like can't you
go to the store and get it? But again to
your point and since then, honestly, if I'm being totally
I think that's when I stopped door dashing with Starbucks.
I was like, I'm so hypocritical for getting on him
for a door dashing boards.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Both of y'all door dash that's what I do. Yes,
I mean, Nick hates it. He never door dashes ever.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
But now it's like, I enjoy now my ride to Starbucks.
But I didn't have time today because I had some stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, well that's good.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was, it was. It was quite funny.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I was like, how bad do we want it ten
minutes late with Starbucks?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Or do I just keep rolling? And then I looked
at the clock. I didn't have time and.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Never have time because you don't calculate in the Starbucks
run And here are stars press are so hit or missed.
Oh I can't get.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I can tell you which one goes really fast and
which one you need at least ten minutes in, But
you always got to What I've learned is this is
stupid story. I apologize to the listeners. Dear listeners, we
apologize in advance. You got to go through the drive through.
They're too slow when you go in, I know, and
everyone thinks you'll beat them inside. They won't You do
you do the car marker? Oh yeah you do.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
The quick read is order it on your thing and
run it and get it.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah that's true, but you got to really be thinking.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
You got to think it. It takes about eight minutes,
five to eight minutes. So then you got a plan
in your rise.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
This is the most nine felt episode ever.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I know what I was thinking, how wildly beneficial it
might be to someone who's driving right now, going, Oh,
I can just type it in Holover, type it over.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Safety first, get god totally. So there's that really as
I drink my extra hot. By the way, let me
just say one more thing about Starbucks. This is not
a sponsored episode. It is not. I I like my
drinks extra hot, even if it's one hundred degrees outside.
So it's like nineties right now in Nashville, and so
the other day when I went yesterday, I was like,

(05:45):
can I play an extra hot? HI? And they're like
extra hot? I go, yeah, I like it hot. They
have to be hot like hot.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
If you're door dashing, you definitely have to do agree to.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I've already microwaved because they get so cold by the
time they get there.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Anyways, it makes me mad.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh lit life updates. So I didn't go to Georgia.
By the way, can I just say how much I
love you guys, because when I went onto the DMS
on the wind Down episode, everyone was so supportive and
they were like, go do it. You'll have so much fun,
so supportive. I didn't do it, but I loved it,

(06:19):
but it was good to see it.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm glad everyone was behind, including us.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, just go do it. They were so supportive.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So next time that comes up, you're going to be like,
guess what, guys, I'm just gonna go do it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, totally probably not convincing, that's probably.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Not gonna happen. No, but I could bring it. Don't
even know if it even went through. Yeah, you know,
we'll see big TVD on the whole sit. Let us
know how it ends. If it Yeah, I will for sure.
But that's that's my only update. I did book another movie, though,
and I'm very excited. Wait, how many movies do we
have happening? And why I say we? I mean you? So,

(06:55):
I've already filmed three, but I'm going to be filming
my fourth one in July in Nashville. This will be fun.
You guys can visit on set.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, let's go together. It'll be so fun. I would
love excited when you startbucks.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, say much. But it is based on a best
selling book, and uh, I don't know it. You probably
know the author. That's all I can say. For now,
very excited. I mean, who, like I get to link
twice if it's Nicholas Sparks, it's not okay, I got
really excited. Would be you know, it would have been great, okay,
but anyway, so to be able to work and then

(07:31):
go home will just be so amazing. I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm excited for you. Part of Nashville all around so fun. Yeah,
there's even a little bit of Franklin so yeah, so yeah, tbd.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
But that's that's my update, and I'm really glad that
everything kind of worked out. We were supposed to be
in l A. That was yeah, why are you here? Politely, Well,
the plane was leaking hydraulic something fluid.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, hydraulic fluid. They were in the engine for a
good five hours.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Which she finally was like, I wasn't going to tell you,
but I didn't want to get on that plane. So
here's the thing that takes a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I used to fly in like anything, yeah, and Sestna's
I went into it. And as I get older, I
definitely get more like if something's going wrong or if
like I'm like, okay, God's telling me I don't need
to be on this airplane, and I was like, I
wasn't gonna say it to her though, because she's already
a little anxious, you know. I mean, and I don't
think you realize I do get more ink, I've gotten
a lot more anxious with flying and stuff like that

(08:29):
as I've gotten older. I think that's normal to get
a little bit more whatever. But that was what had me.
As the hours went on and the engine stayed open
and the pilot was looking at it, and like one,
I was.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Just like, and we saw the bucket and we saw
it leaking. This is not a good sign. It just
got bad.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then we missed by the time, we missed everything
day one, and so it was just like it was
such a mess.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, I'm glad you stayed home.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, so we stayed home, and here we are.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's interesting to me.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
We were at the dinner table the other night, and
I don't know how this even came up, but we
were talking about anxious flyers maybe or just flyers, because
Preston just flies a ton and I think he's getting a.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Little bit tired.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Sure, Yeah, Like you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Know, if the bus leaves the night before, he's more
likely to get on the bus. The night before.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Now he's just like, I love being home with you,
but also and I I just don't know how anybody
does it.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
We're talking and I said, do you guys this is
at the dinner table funny enough? And I said, does
everybody here want to take a guess at which one
of my best friends is a really anxious flyer, because
I think it would shock you. And they were guessing,
and nobody guessed you, and I was like, guess me.
I said, it's Cramer and Preston was like what I said, yeah,
and he goes for as much as she has to fly,
and I said, I know.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Every time gotten tremendously better. I think so too, like
like it like night and day from when I first
started working with her. Thanks and not getting you to
even go into the airport.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
So oh yeah, there's only one way to get on
the airplane in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
She goes, we just were talking about that too. I go, hey,
remember that one time that I was in Atlanta and
I was like, hey, I can't get on the airplane
And I what do you mean you can't get on
the airplane Like I can't get on the airplane. I
mean we had just started working together.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I had a baby in my arms, I'll never forget it,
in my bedroom home holding a baby, and I was like,
what do you mean you can't walk in to the airport.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
So she's like, so you're at the airport. I was
like yes, She's like, and you can't go in the airport. No,
what Like she just did not understand.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I wish we had a time capsule. This is this
is gold to me, capsule. Man.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I should write a book, I should go back and
I just can't remember. My problem is is I just
can't remember everything. So but anyway, you've gotten a lot better.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I have because I get of my app, my little
flight Trader app. Oh yeah, I zoom out and I
see all the other planes that are flying in the air,
and it's like, okay, look how many flights are happening
right now. And then I go to my turbulence tracker
and I see the winds. Yeah, And it doesn't make
you more nervous, no, because I see other planes going
through it too, and they're okay, and they've passed through it.

(11:01):
But then this is my thing and I kind of
want to one day do a movie about because I
think it'd be kind of cool because sometimes I know
Alan on airplaness because I'm like, babe, Okay, so we're
at twenty three thousand feet, this other plan's at twenty one.
It looks like it's going like I'm like, they're gonnalye,
should I go down the pilot? Okay, So that's what
I was Actually, you're not going to save. I was like, no, no, no,
I'm going to do one deck. I'm going to save

(11:22):
like this one's coming.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Literally. I was just about to say that to you,
that doesn't make you nervous, but then I thought, I'm
not going to plant the seed.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Because that's not what you need. But you're already doing
it your situation. Yeah, I mean, he just laughed. Every
time we go on there, I'm already on there. Knock
on the old pilot door. There's a plane coming at
twenty four thousand, thank you. Thirty sixty. We weren't sure
that was going to happen, you know, more for me
at least a six egg definitely not thirty six feet.
Sometimes anyway, okay, girls, we just we go all over,

(11:56):
don't we? Does anybody want to go back to thirty
thousand feet? Is there anything else we needed to catch
up on days? Anyone else any updates?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
No lion at her first swim lesson. I'm pretty sure
she's going to write to a therapist about me. I
hate that feeling when they're crying and they're separated from
you and they hate you. And she went up to
the glass and made a whole spectacle.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You guys.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
She got out and kept saying all done. I could
see her mouth moving, and she walked up to the
glass of the sea of people, and she was looking
for me, and then she pointed straight you. She did,
and I was like, this one hits different.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know if it's the third.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Or like yikes, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, well I this
is every time I say I'd rather her be crying
here than unsafe there.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, that's what we have to do payment to that,
all right. So we've got a few things to discuss
and whine about it. Someone has to unpin So you

(13:01):
rock paper scissors, one of you two me not it?
Not me, Kike cat.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
My problem is is I've talked about mine, so it's
not going to be that interesting. People already to know
the process anyway, keep going, What are we going to
say no.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And then there's also you know our wine. I actually
have a wine from what happened to us in the airport,
and I want to talk about it because we actually
never talked about it.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't know what it is. Let's talk about it
a lady in front of us. Oh oh that, let's
do that instead of unpinning.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That was unbelievable. I was uncomfortable. What I almost said
something I want to say, getting nervous because boy, because
she said something where I believe I make up that
was her daughter. It was her daughter, Okay, and her
daughter was ten eleven? Oh god, no, she's probably thirteen fourteen.
I wouldn't think any more than thirteen. She's Emmy's age,

(13:54):
if not older. Oka, wait where are you in the
airport process? Sitting in the lounge and growing to They
were also going to La TSA is usually where it
starts for me. So that's why I went, yeah, yeah, no, no,
this was this was lounge and I guess my wine
about it and listen, this is like, this is a
slippery slope because I'm I'm not trying to like mom.

(14:16):
Shame sure. Having said that when she called her daughter
a dummy, that bothered me first and foremost, Yeah, and
I think it's because I'm super sensitive to two things
that just happened with So my son Jace went to
camp and he got called dumb and he was crying
at camp. I mean it was like it broke my heart.

(14:36):
Was the first time a kid has ever like said
something mean to him, So that like broke my heart.
And then also the other day too, Jolie made a
choice about something, but she regretted her choice, and this
is what we were happening. And then she was like,
I'm an idiot and I was like no, Like I'm
like and so I'm like, first of all, where did
you hear that? Because it's like those aren't the words
that we say in here, and so I couldn't. First
and foremost was that that parent was saying like even

(14:58):
though she was like joking, but like she was like,
you're dummy, dummy, dummy, like said it like a couple
of times, and then was like talking about she was
saying all these other negative things, yeah, like really negative
things where I'm like, is that age appropriate for you
to be telling her about this cheating uncle?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like it was very abrasive and very she was very negative.
Everything was night which I'm I mean, I'm I'm she
was got better left and right. Every time the plane
got delayed. I was like here it comes to like
like she was like freaking out every time that part.
I literally I sat there and I was like, would

(15:35):
I have had that conversation with Emmy maybe just in
a different way, which piece the conversation about the cheating
uncle or whatever. Yeah, me and Emmy do have conversations
like that, but this was the way.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And it was like girlfriends talking like that sm P
O s was you know, cheating on this one and
the sick mother. Yeah, it was the way it was done.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It was just all very abrasive, all very negative, and
very public. Yes, very we were right there.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
That's why a few times I was like, oh boy,
yeah yeah, because I'm like hello, right, you know, and
then I just and then she I just felt I
just felt bad because it just that negativity is like
we they don't need any more negativity than they already
see on their screens and this that and the other
coming then from so it put it's hard because I'm

(16:27):
I don't feel like mom shamed or like you're not
trying to shame the mom, but it did make me uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Image uncomfortable. Yeah, I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
But like to then speak that negatively to your kid,
I'm like, that's they already have so much negativity going
on at that age.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean for sure, Yeah, no, absolutely,
And I think that there's a there can be a
time when they are a kid at that age is
feeling a certain way, and that as moms we can
be like, oh, I can't believe that, and we can
get negative down in there with them, so they feel
like you're kind of on their team, on their side,

(17:01):
right or wrong. I don't know if that's right or wrong.
Couldn't tell you, but I could think of the time
where like Emmy's upset about something and so I'm like, yeah,
I can't believe they did that, and you kind of
get down in that negative part too, like.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's so hurtful.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Right, But this child was barely speaking. She just sat there.
She didn't really even respond to any of it. And
that's the part I saw use like, this isn't a
conversation really between two people.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's like she wanted to be best friend talking with her,
or she wasn't responding.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I just felt bad for the yeah, the girl because
I'm just like, but I just saw how negaive and honestly,
it made me check myself to be like, Yep, I
don't want to be that negative person around my kids
because I saw, like you said, I watched her too
to see how she reacted, and like she wasn't reacting
in a really anyway, but not in an engaging way either.
I was like, I don't want to be that. I

(17:48):
don't want to be that parent to my kids. Yep,
to be negatives like so it reminded me at least like, okay, a,
the swearing was not great, so I'm like check that
on my part, but also like the negative piece and
then how how you know to talk to them, not
the dumb dumb part. I was like, I just don't
like any of that, Like you got to speak nice

(18:10):
and wautiful words.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think it's good sometimes to hear stuff like that.
If that's how she wants to be and that's how
she wants to be with her and her daughter like
more power, Like if that's how they're gonna I'm okay whatever,
But for me, it's helpful to hear it and see
what I don't like and what kind of hits me
and go ooh and make me think about how I

(18:32):
will handle situations with my kids.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
And there right now with the word yeah, I don't
like it. I don't either, and I've said it a
couple of times in front of my kids, but I
don't know handful. I don't know if it's like where
we grew up.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I used to not cousin in front of my kids
at all, and now that they've got car it comes
out a lot more. But I try not to say
that word.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I slipped the S word a little bit like shit,
like yeah, so I'm trying to do the yeah too.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's weird. I didn't do it for so long, and
now that they're all like, I can remember kind of
the first times I did them kind of looking at
me like what. But I'm like you you're older.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Has gotten better being around Alan, even though he says
the ff thing, oh yeah, Even though he says that
but like it doesn't he doesn't put language within just
a regular sentence like I would just add swearards and
not just like a normal vocabulary of just regular talking.
But his is I've class set up a little bit

(19:28):
more for sure with being with him because he's he's
more classier I guess in that area. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Also, the South just doesn't swear as much in my experience,
Like I just.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Don't that I would have been in so much trouble. Yeah,
it's strange.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I mean great, It's just like a foreign feeling. Yeah,
so it was foreign for me the first couple of
times I did. That's in front of like even the
older ones, and I know they've heard all of it obviously,
but I just I just didn't grow up that way.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, it holds more of a punch too, and use it. Yeah,
and you hold it tight and once in a while
it comes out.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So that was my wine about it.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, that was it was rough.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I kind of grew up in that we're gonna we're
gonna pull out the pin, but not completely because it's similar.
This pin is related, okay, in the negativity and the
inviting that kind of negativity back in for like the
unchanged people in your family. And so there's been hesitation
for me to incorporate certain people back into my world

(20:29):
because I do these temperature checks with them to like
see like you know, do we have growth or progress.
I'm not judging the progress, but I am really protective
of what comes back into the space because I've given
it a good amount of space. And that is a
big part of it, because there's a lot of just
really like it's kind of constant. It's part of the

(20:51):
makeup of this person. I remember being in the mall
with Love and this person, this family member, and you know,
Love loves fast, so like she just like we don't
walk through them all hardly ever, And so we were
looking at the mannequins and the dresses. It was in
Dillard's and there was a woman shopping near us, and
I remember this family member going, oh, that's hideous, that's

(21:13):
you know, and I and I just stopped Love and
I said, somebody is going to feel really pretty when
they put that dress on. And that's what's really special
about that dress. Love, And I think it's cool that
you like ruffles because it's, you know whatever, Like the
empowerment someone gets when they put that on is going
to be so special to them. Like, I just don't
want that back in my world. And I'm that's the

(21:34):
part where I'm struggling, and I will I think more
go into more details time goes on on this podcast, probably,
but like just still feeling it out. But that's a
lot of my protecting myself right now.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
That negativity piece is so interesting because I think we
all struggle with that, right, Like yeah, even like talking
about clothes like oh that's ugly or something like that.
You know, well we might think that, but somebody else
may think it's beautiful and then create them. And that's
a hard lesson And that's kind of part of my
pin a little bit as well. And you know, teenagers

(22:05):
growing up with kids that are super negative and trying
to find your people that make you feel good and
happy and not down and depressed because they're negative all
the time. And that's kind of one of the things
that we've been going through at our house is like
you know, friendship breakups and realizing that like, yeah, they
may have done X, Y and Z to you, but

(22:26):
also recognize that, like this might not be your person
because they are negative or they are not happy, not
meaning that you shouldn't be there for them, but like
it's bringing you down. So how how does that make
you feel?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And how?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know, there's it's a lot, it's a lot to
deal with a lot of negativity, but as adults it
still really creeps in on us too, you know, and
especially if you're raised with it. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah. I think a lot of it though, is the
reflection of the other person, and that sometimes where it's
like maybe she is going like that mom at the
airport or whoever it is. It's like they're going through
something that they're going through, and that's their way of
either making themselves feel better or ignoring what they're going through.
Like I know, in any anytime I have been negative,

(23:16):
I can look and go it's because either it reminded
me of something bad or I was not feeling confident
in myself, and so what's the easiest thing to do?
And that will you know, not be nice to somebody
else or sure have thoughts about this because it's maybe
makes that person feel better or yeah, I don't know, absolutely,

(23:37):
And then you know, think about other relationships too. It's like, Okay,
this person was saying this, but it's because it was
their own reflection of themselves.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, that's a hard one to teach young people. Hell,
it's a hard one for me to remember a lot
of the time. It's so true, and we know that
that's to be true.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, it's like the mean people that write nasty comments,
is there's something with them that they're Yes, they might
not like us, and they're they have to be unhappy
in some part of their life to be that negative
towards somebody else and be dealing with something, whether it's
they don't feel whatever it is that they don't feelly,
they feel, might feel lesson or not enough or whatever
it is that they feel like, then they have to
go being mean is the best option?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, Yeah, hard rewiring as an adult, I think is
the trickiest part. It really is, and knowing, you know,
like when you have space from that, then you go
back in you're like, wow, it's like toxic, Like it
feels so like so identifiable, so quick.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
But then.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
To try to change it the trajectory, I think, yeah,
And I don't want a toxic positivity environment either. That's
the other right, Like it's like we don't want to
be so avoidant that we're not like acknowledging something hurts
our feelings or we don't like something or whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But also, but I don't think that's negative. I don't
think it's negative to speak up and say something hurts
your feelings, you know, I think that I see that
as as different, you know. I mean, like, I just
had a conversation with a friend today that was just
a really and I love her, but it's a really
just negative. She was just and she's negative, negative, negative,
And I was like, Okay, I don't have the energy

(25:04):
for that right now, and so all I can do
is match it with let's just think of the positive.
Let's just trust this is going to work out the
way that it should. Let's just be happy. And and
she also didn't want to hear that right right then,
but like, sometimes though, it can bring me down so much, yes,
and bring me down to being negative too, that it's
like I just I can't.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I just it's hard. It's a misery. Loves Company is
the same for a reason. Yeah. But also Amy had
said something about the rewiring where you're at, and she's like,
I know it's you know, not trying to be like
that toxic positivity, but with the the gratitude stuff, it's
really hard. She's like, if you do that every day
for this my time, your brain actually does rewire. You're going, yeah, okay, no,

(25:47):
this is good. Yeah, I'm not maybe where I want
to be here, you know, whatever the case, but that
you are, there are so many other beautiful things around you. Yes,
and that's way. No, no, no, no, I think it's
just grateful.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
But it is true because I think, isn't it Like
I'm probably messing up this, But it's like scientifically impossible
for you to be grateful and fearful at the same time,
or grateful and worrisome at the same time. It's a
teeter totter, so you can only really have like one. Yeah, yeah,
it's good to know. Yeah, well, I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Glad that conversation was the same person that you told
me about. There.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, the person I was actually talking to today is
not and it is a good friend and it's just
a circumstance that she's she's feeling down about and I
understand it. But I'm like, you're stuck there. But she
can hear it, like I love it, like she can
hear it. I'm like, hey, you're stuck here. Let's let's
let's just we don't even know yet. Let's be happy.
Let's you know, you have a talk today.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
No, I was like, yeah, I think it's related to
her child. Too, and just you know, and it's again,
she'll be fine tomorrow. She's just in that negative spot.
But I was feeling myself like kind of meeting her
there and I'm like, nope, I'm like, all right, let's
just think positive, let's you know whatever. No, the situation
with us is just you know, we've had you know,

(26:58):
officially friendship breakup, you know that we were dealing with. Unfortunately,
we're also friends and it has not been good for us.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So the moms are friends, the kids are friends.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like we travel together and we're
not anymore, and you know, stuff like that. So it's
been really and I don't want to talk about last
week because like that had just happened. We had decided
not to travel together. So I was like I'm going
to cry, you know, Like I was just like it's
too fresh. And then we just kind of had a
situation where something floated around that a friend or an
ex friend had sent of Emmy's that really embarrassed her

(27:28):
and she was crying and she was upset, and I
it just went to the parents and I was like,
can y'all please like take care of this, you know,
And it wasn't received well, and I understand because I
was definitely coming from a mad place, but also like
help me out place a protective place, for sure. And
you know when children lie a lot and are not

(27:51):
honest with their parents, but I know the truth. It's
really hard because it's like I get you know, I
got attacked back, like you don't know, this is not
what happened, and I'm like, okay, you know. But then
they come back and admit it later, you know that
it that it did happen, and so it just was
a really it was taking me to a negative place,

(28:12):
for sure, and so it was one of those where
we just have to step away from it. It's making
us all unhappy, it's making the kids unhappy, it's making
the moms unhappy. So we just have to agree to
just separate for a while.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And well that's hard to because you were friends with
the mom. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. We were together all
the time, you know, So that's it's hard. But every
day I feel more peace about it in the sense
I know that we'll be cordial.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's the one thing I know about this mom. She
is not going to be mean to me. She's not
going to you know, like when we see each other,
it will be fine. We will be able to be
around each other. I know all of that, and I'm
thankful for that because, I mean, there's been things said
on both sides that are hurtful, but I just I
feel more peace every day knowing you know what this is.

(28:58):
This is just kind of God's plan for us right now.
But it does bring me to a question. It made
me think about something. So have y'all ever heard I'm
sure you have, but kind of like the whole saying
about like friends are like a season like seasonal friends.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, a reason a season or a lifetime they So
does that.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Bother y'all at all? Like have you ever had anyone
say that to you, like when you're friends, Like when
your friends are just seasonal, Kristen, they're just seasonal? Like
would that bother you?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah? I think I'm a love delivering it though too. Yea,
how they are. There's someone in our neighborhood that I
could absolutely we're friends, but I we were both kind
of making comments like she's she's a wife of a coach,
she will leave right right, and so we yes, we're friends,
but it's not it is a season friend because it's
not tight enough to like, we're most likely never going

(29:49):
to hang out unless she comes right back to Nashville
when they move, right. Does that makes sense? That makes sense? Yeah,
so I think. But if one of you guys said
that's me, that would break my heart because I think
we're life life life time life, right life. Yeah, I
think it's it's how it's it's where the friendship is at,
right when that person says it.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, so we had So this story is kind of
obviously a lot of this is with cheer moms, but
we're together so much and we've all, you know, become friends.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So there is one that did turn out to be seasonal.
A couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
She always said that, and it always took me back
because I'm like, no, like, what are you talking about.
We'll always be friends. It doesn't matter if she's on
a different team, we live in the same town, it
doesn't matter. Like always though, it was always Nope, friends
are seasonal, they're seasonal.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Sounds like she's a little protective for herself. She is, Yeah,
she is, and.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, and I very much recognized it as a coping
you know, in her, And turns out, yes, she was
very clear, we were seasonal, we're no longer friends, which
is fine, great, right, that's wild. Well, then this friend
that I just had this situation with threw that out
there when we were talking. She's like, well, I guess
it's a different season, and I was like, oh, okay,

(31:04):
and that's just great.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I just really took that as Wow. I didn't think
that you really bought into that too, you know. I
mean I didn't say that, but in my mind, I'm
like wow, because like that always bothered all of us
that she said that. But she was like, yeah, no,
she's right, they're seasonal. So it was like, okay, guess
our season's over too. But I just thought, like, have
y'all ever had I just didn't know if y'all ever
had anyone tell you that. It's always been just a

(31:27):
little bit of a I get that there's the truth
to that once the season is over, but saying to
a current friend just never felt good to me. It
always felt like you very much planned for us to
just be friends for a season. So why do I
want to put in all this work into a friendship
if you're already saying it it's just seasonal.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, It's like when you're dating the guy and you
know you're not going to marry him, what's the point.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Right, you know what I mean? Yeah, like, yeah, it's
a good question, and you raise a really good point.
And I'm just thinking of kind of our you know,
I think our you know, queen as everyone's very busy,
we get together as much as we can. I think
we because of the relationships that we have, we are
we will always just like my high school friends, like
we'll be lifelong friends, right. But I think in the forties,

(32:13):
especially people that come in maybe some of them are
truly just seasonal ones or just the sports ones. Like
I have a girlfriend that I love, but I'm not
going to go out of my way to hang out
with her when I'd rather hang out with and I
but I would see her. We're sports friends right right,
because our kids love each other and we hang out.
So I think, you know, there's that is a season, yeah,

(32:35):
and the actual baseball season, yeah, you know, truly fall
ball season.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
But I do think there is some truth to it,
for sure, I just think. But there's also like it
doesn't have to do so all or nothing. I think
that's what I don't like about that.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Same like you need to say it though, right, I
know we know it, but we don't have to say
because that's saying it, I think is the hurtful. Right.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
They also don't have to fit into three categories, you know,
Like I love our friendships for a lot of reasons, right.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think they can like EBB and flow and they
can't go different seasons and stuff like that or whatever.
But I don't know, it's just the intentionality behind it
from the get go.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'm just like, no, I'm sure that would would. I
don't like that feelings. And also you kind of know
who you're going to maybe start hanging out with, why
or not? And right, but I feel like by this
point you have your core group. Yeah, your peeps, Yeah, yeah,
for sure. Also very red flaggy. Yeah, I don't like it. Well,

(33:28):
I'm sorry, kits.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, it's you know, it'll it'll be fine, It'll be
good in the end. It's just I mean, obviously feel
worse for her daughter than you know, myself, But it
does make it kind of uncomfortable for everybody.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
That's a tricky piece though, because I think about, you
know what if our daughters there's a riff between her,
you know, Harlow or I mean raims. They don't hang
out as much, but like you know, if something would
happen or and then it's like how that then affects
the relationship between the friend We already kind of talk.
I don't know if we talked about it on here,

(34:02):
if it was just friend chat.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
But like birthday parties, Yeah, and they get to the
age where they're like, yeah, they invite they pick the
people they want to invite it, and you're like, well
what about them?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
You know that's tricky through all of this.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Just so y'all know, like protection mechanism for me is
a major one with Ramsey, like her best friend, Like
we're friends, but like I keep a little bit of
distance because I can't I could. I could not do
this again. I mean I could not do this again.
That's why I am thankful for y'all though, because they
don't go to school together. They don't, you know, so

(34:35):
like they're not just always together. They're not.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So if there was like a little bit of a thing,
it would be so easy to like it's not like
a big falling out, Like they don't go to school together.
You know, all those dating the same boys and That's why,
even like sports together stuff like that. I have been
so hesitant with Ramsey in that sense doing this over
because I feel like I did her a disservice by
them being together all the time, or both of us yea,

(35:00):
and then being involved and you know all those things.
I also feel like you can't help that though, too.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I know.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, it's kind of inevitable, especially when you're traveling. Yeah,
it just can be too much at times. So yeah, anybody,
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think we both slightly unpinned. You're the only one
that's not.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
We didn't even didn't a little I did. Last week.
I was trying to pull something else out.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, I thought, yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Teddy mellin camp. Cozy's up to a mystery man amid
cancer treatment and divorce from husband Edwin. She's been spotted
cozying up to her new mystery man on a walk
in Encino, California. Did you guys see the photo? On
her podcast? They were talking and saying, yes, I'm dating
a guy. And yesterday we went on a walk and
went to Gelson's. Then we went to the mall to
pick up Slade's graduation dress. He is very kind and

(35:57):
he's been helping her. It's private, private person, doesn't have
any kids. He's taking good care of me. He's nice,
he's not married. She added, that's good, just really really
clarifying there. Yeah, so I kind of my thoughts on
this is I love a man that comes in.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Like that. You know.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I also think of like Katie Thurston's husband, who they
ended up getting married early because she's also got cancer
and do you guys know who she is. She was
one of the Bachelor Girls, bachelorette, sorry, she was the bachelorette.
And you know, men that come in during that, I
think they're just incredible to be there and to be

(36:43):
a safe place for women. I even think of the
same thing about, you know, men like Alan who come
after you know a girl has been hurt really bad
sure or you know, been through a bad relationship. So
I have a lot of Kelsey Ballerini actually has a
song to the to the men who love women after heartbreak.
You know, I think there's something so beautiful about that

(37:04):
type of man that can come and be such a
support and loving, comfortable, you know, comfortable place for them.
That's my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I'm really happy for her too.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
She's wonderful. Yeah, and she's going through so much and
so hard, and it seems like Edwin's being great and
being helpful and so thank God for that. I mean,
they've got these kids together. And then to have someone
that she feels like like, I'm I'm I mean that's huge.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, and life is again we go to this like
life is so short and yes, and everyone just and
everybody just get along. Yeah, exactly, especially in those kind
of times.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, I think just yeah, I mean imagine how tired
spiritually physically to have any any newness is probably I
mean even chemistry right biologically, that's got to be so
good for her body.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, give her some life, yeah, just like a little yeah. Yeah, yes,
I know, I say, can everyone get along? But I
me and my ex go back and forth, but there's it's.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Everyone who's healthy get along. That would be my statement. Okay,
too much, she said it. She always does. She's protesting it.
It's very hard to co parent.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's hard to co parent with someone you can't trust,
you know, and it repeats patterns. So it's that's you know, yep,
it can't. It's not all sunshine and butterflies. You know,
co parenting is tough in general, so but in this instance,
I'm very happy for them because you know, she's they uh,
she's going through a lot, so positivity I think also
helps and heals, yes, all things. Anyways, enough about that.

(38:44):
Chris Jenner reveals Kylie Jenner's breast surgeon did her what
did her first face lift? Chris Jenner is hyping up
the plastic surgeon who was behind her face lift fourteen
years ago. Okay, wait time out. Didn't she just get
a facelift? She did something she did.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I think this one is referencing her first one, though
not this.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
One, So you have to do more than one facelift.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I think they definitely can go because like my mother
in law, I think that's fine to say has had.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
One in about seven days. We're all gonna know.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
But like I mean, it definitely starts to change, yeah,
because if they're referencing the one that yeah she said
fourteen years ago, Oh yeah, no, she just had a
new one.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And have you seen the pictures? Yeah? I was confused
and who she was.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
To be honest, we were talking, we were playing car
was just here.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Guys. Can we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I know, I'm so upset.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
She was with Maggie. She played beer pong with Maggie.
She was that my friendie Maggie Maggie Walsh. Oh what yeah,
I text hers top everything where she's so nice. It
was like she was amazing. It was my girlfriend. They
own that. I was like, what about it?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, that's but we were talking about it and I
was saying it and wonder my friend's death.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
She was just so.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Funny because she was like, oh, yeah, cool, she got
a face lift, blah blah blah. And I'm like showing
this back up. She's like, yeah, okay, cool. So it's
like her and Kim.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
She's like not into she was not into it.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And I go, that is not Kim Beth and she goes,
wait what it was? Her like, weird it is again
I'm all about aging gracefully and like whatever, but I
have never seen anything.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, Like it was like a weird feeling for me. Yes,
I was like, wait, like.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Does have happened? I know it's unbelievable. Also, like I
want to know who did this one?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
The first one? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
I guess I'm I'm not very tuned in to them
right now at all or many things. No, no, this
isn't like I'm not Kardashian shaming. It's fine, I'll get
plenty of those message. Oh no, no, because I love
a good Kardashian moment.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I do.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I just haven't been as tuned in alger than probably right,
so it feels like I haven't. I just saw Chris
recently in my brain. But then all of a sudden,
I'm like, where is time different for these people?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Like unreal?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
They just go away for like ten minutes, I feel like,
and come back with a new face.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
And here's the thing I've I think she's stunning beautiful.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Before she always thought like I think she's a beautiful woman.
I do think she's stunning, and just the way she
keeps herself like she's so lover. Yes, I always say like,
I'm obsessed with Christian. I don't think she's fantastic, but
I thought she was beautiful before the facelift.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I did two facelifts. Corey's like twelve.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I don't, I don't know. But I'm also like, at
some point is she going to start?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I mean, Corey's so young.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Is he thought he's not? Yeah? How old is he? Oh?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't know, but he's definitely probably.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Thirty years got to google around her head. There's no
always don't know way he's thirty, No, forty four, thirty
years younger, but maybe forty four. Yeah, I thought he
was in his forties. I mean yeah, I mean, because
I'm just like, yeah, this, I mean, I think she's
just she's so beautiful. I you know, it's hard because

(41:53):
if you got the money and I want to look younger.
I love that people. I love that they talk about
it at least. I love that they're opened about it
and they're like, yeah, I have a facelift. I mean,
surely she's I don't know if she's actually talked about
this one, but there's literally no way to deny this one.
I don't even know how she is her daughter now,
and I haven't in which one make a daughter.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
She looks like every different daughter, every which way.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Then again, though, stem cells are really doing a thing.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I mean, and maybe it was her face, maybe it
was something else, and maybe that's why it looks so good.
Because maybe it's not an actual facelift. I don't know,
let me know I mean because it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm in shocked by this as I haven't done botox
in like a year.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Would you guys ever do a facelift?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
No, I would neither. I would never put a knife
to my face.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I never know. With me, I kind of feel like
you would.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Oh you would do anything, Oh in a good way.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, I don't. I'm like, I'm not scared of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
No, I'm more scared of surgery. Injections don't scare me
as much. Surgery is where I am tough. I would
do boobs first, probably boobs are knowing before i'd facelift.
I just am I am like I also have just
been like recent, I've just been so in the deep
dive of like internally the things that help us that
can like just bring out like a use full glow

(43:00):
and like help us support our collagen and blah blah blah.
Like I'm more into that than I am like surgery.
And also I've just seen so many that are not great.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
And I mean, if I were her, if I and
I had Christianner's money, then maybecause you know you're getting
top of you know, all that cream of the crop,
like I can't, like with the money I got like
a group bond, you know, Like again, is money can
really make you pretty?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Right, right, you can look pretty with the money.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Having said that, did you happen to see any of
the d ms from that one baiting suit, because someone
did say, well with all them, with with the money
and the plastic surgeries, anyone can look like that. And
I'm like, yes, I have my boobs done, but besides that,
like I don't have a trainer, Like, yeah, I don't
do botox, you workout well, I mean I also don't
negate that. Yeah, But so that's my point. So I

(43:53):
was like, why did you have to go straight to
she has money plastic surgery? That was not cool to me.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
No, you've done nothing to make yourself look prettier, like I.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Got my boobs done.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
That isn't like making you know what I'm saying, I'm
just saying that sounds how do I say without being.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Sound judgmental, like that you can really change a face. Sure,
and money and stuff too, right, but you've never done
any of that. But that's what people automatically go to,
is like, well, you know, and that was the comment
because it was my friend Kelly Krueger had been like
damn girl or something, or like m body goals or
something like, you know, one of those things, and they're like, yeah,
with with money and plastic surgery, like you just have

(44:31):
it too people.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Being negative and it's secure.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Actually I wanted a tummy talk Alan straight up wouldn't
let me love him so much? Did you want one? Later? Yeah,
I wanted him. I wanted a mommy. I've always wanted one.
I forgot you did always want one. I've always about
it in a long time. The doctor talked you out
of you like brought it up at one point with
with doctor when I was doing my mAbs, He's like,

(44:55):
you could. He's like, but you know, this is what
we can do. And then he's like, basically I didn't
know if I was done with I mean, I was
right right, yeah, yeah, but he's like, you know, try
actually working out. I didn't work out to the best
of the ability then, and so that's a funny sentence though,
I know, but we're actually working out.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
As if you've always been like a fit, well, especially
because you are fit, you're a runner.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Like you're always active. But when I was pregnant, with Roman.
I was like, I really want to get a mommy
talk and Alan was like, no, so's his reasoning. One
of his friends that he played with his wife died
because she got sepsis.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, I had a friend who almost like it was close.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And I was like, and I have a friend who
looks great tricky and she looked enough to scare me
as my problem. Yeah, but you know I also so
now I'm glad I didn't do it. Having said that,
when we go back, I super digress, but I story
of our lives. We should actually rename this podcast. Uh,

(46:02):
you know, get whatever you want to get. I understand
why Alan was like, know about it, and now I'm
looking back, I'm you know, I am glad I didn't
get it, because if we do have a friend that
did get it, and she's got a lot of scar
tissue and she hates it. So I want everywhere we
have a lot of young listeners, I just want to
say this to them in this moment, Please appreciate your

(46:22):
beautiful young bodies. Yes, because I went through our attic
spaces and I might have mentioned this to you guys,
but I went through our addic spaces and the photos
I found and how hard I was on myself at
those times I should have been walking around naked NonStop.
I was stunnying collegen boobs are high booty, like I mean,
just and I was so hard on myself. So I
want everyone in this moment to just be so freaking
proud of yourself but also.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Older and yourself. What do you like stay positive about?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah, but I mean like I just don't think I appreciated,
you know, like I've been recently trying to reframe the
body piece for me as like, because this postpartum has
just been a struggle. I lost all the muscle and
dreaming the muscle and I'm getting the weight back, and
it's like what size am I? And I can't go
through my closet because everything's changing. And then I busted
out of the dress. You know that this wasn't good
for anybody, but I just am like going, but ten

(47:12):
years from now, this body is banging, you know, like
I'm going to be like, why didn't you just wear
the swimsuit? So I just do what I want now,
which is freedom, But I wish I could have and
part of it could just be the era we grew
up in which was. I mean, listen, it's like, everyone
raise your hand if you've had an eating disorder. Like
it was just rampant for our generation specifically. I don't
know what it is like now, but so it was

(47:33):
like you're battling that and the magic diet pills and
all the things that just didn't support a healthy view
of a body. Ever was like nothing was ever good enough.
And now I'm going man like I wanted. I wish
I would have just appreciated that body more, you know,
not been so hard on her because she was cute.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And she still does that have, you know, like for
my the areas that I was self conscious of when
you look into what maybe is an inflaming you Like
when I did my gut stuff, I'm like, I realized
I didn't need to do it anymore because I targeted
what was actually going on and why I was inflamed
the way that I was inflamed. And then we just

(48:12):
get so used to being inflamed, and I think we
think it's regular. It's a weird feeling, and now without it,
it's like whow alex Kiper gets emotional as she opens

(48:33):
up about trying to have a baby with husband Matt Kaplin.
Did any of you guys watch it? So I thought
it was great because she basically they had a plan
and now they're not. She's like, I'm thirty, and you know,
then you start thinking about the timeline and freaking out,
and then realizing her she's hotter than ever. You know,

(48:54):
she's got her new Hulushu show coming out, She's obviously
got called her Daddy Podet. I mean, she's she's killing it,
and then going wait a minute, like I want to
enjoy this too, but I'm thirty and this but this
wasn't our plan. We talked about having a baby now,
and so I think just you know, she was saying too,
it's not the plan that we talked about and that
we agreed upon. Now I'm doubting myself and second guessing everything.

(49:16):
I started to get so anxious and panicked, and I
started to feel like it was all just getting away
from me and I'm losing precious time. It's this all encompassing,
overwhelming feeling. I know in my gut I need more time.
And so I think when anyone says I know in
my gut, I need more time, like for us women,
and I'll say this like our gut is the most
powerful tool that we have. Absolutely a lot of times

(49:38):
I didn't listen to it, but now like that is
it's always like no, I don't and if I don't
know what to do, then I do nothing, you know, Yes,
So discernment is everything, and we know it's a trust
pushing because their plan was to go ahead and have
a baby.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
But she's feeling like she needs to wait. Yeah, got
it good.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
She's thirty, got plenty of time. That's a thing, too,
plenty of time. Funny people.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I hate that pressure that you know, even feels that
pressure like she's.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I did when I was thirty.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It's crazy how you look back and it was thirty
and yeah I had a baby with a man that chated.
I was like, well I'm now thirty one. Shoot, I
need to have kids or my eyes are going to
dry up. Because especially ten years ago, yeah, women weren't
having like not that I heard of babies in their forties.
Yeah now it's pretty common. Yeah now, I feel like

(50:28):
it's way more common back then when we were just
having Jolie. It's like someone's thirty eight and having a baby.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, I mean I didn't even have love till I
was thirty four, So yeah, right, like I mean, and
I just feel but I do remember my hometown friends, Yes,
when I hit thirty and I was married at the
time to someone else, and I remember them being like,
you've been together forever, why aren't you guys? And I
just they like thought I was going they were going

(50:56):
to expire, that I wasn't going to be able to
have children. I'm like, it's okay, I'm fine. I had
an odd sense of no pressure.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I think it's a good good time for women knowing
that they can have babies later on. Like I know
someone who, funny enough, is actually my ex's ex girlfriend
from like back in college, and she's freezing her eggs
right now, you know. So it's like we have those yeah,
abilities to be able to do that. It's like, don't
rush for the wrong one just to have a family.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, you know, I agree.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
So and with with her, it's like, enjoy the success
that's going on. You'll have more time to chill. And
she clearly wants to have a baby, just not right now. Awesome.
And if you decide you don't want the end, okay,
fine too. Yeah, there's this like wild thing that you
have to have one or the other too. Yeah, you
know right now, Like you can't be a great mom

(51:45):
and be successful, and you can't want a career and
be be the mom that you want to be. It's
like I this isn't me saying we can have it all,
but I just think we can do things that still
make us happy and feel great and celebrate our successes. Yeah,
and it's gonna make you better mom if you can
enjoy that now, agreed, ladies. I've got a question about

(52:06):
cousins and play time with littles. I've got a niece
who is four years old and my son is two
years old. When they play together, she shows bad behavior
like screaming, hitting, and not listening to adults. My son's
just too and I worry he's picking up on some
of the not so great behaviors, but not all of
it is horrible. They do have fun together, and I
think it's good for him to be around other kids.
I do step in and regulate when I see the

(52:27):
behavior with my own eyes, especially if she's hitting my son.
How can I settle my worries about spending time with
his cousin? Do you think I should say something to
my sister in law, kat, I think you have an opinion.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Well not a strong one. I think that you're doing
the right thing first of all, by stepping in when
needed and regulating still allowing them to play. I mean,
I don't unless it's really bad behavior or something that's suspicious.
I don't know that you should necessarily not allow them
to play. But I think that if you see something
that you don't like, maybe get permission from the sister.

(53:04):
I don't know how how that is, but to kind
of say, hey, we don't hit or whatever it is.
So then the two year old sees also like that
there is a repercussion for it. I don't think that
that's a terrible thing maybe for them to see.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Also, it doesn't last forever, I think sometimes so stages
are so crazy. It's so wild West in stages.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Yeah, like she could be great in a week, you know,
like it could just be a thing that's something shouldn't Yeah,
just like a little space maybe like you don't I mean,
if someone's not also with them, they're not living with you,
that's different.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Too, right.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
But I also think this plays into just on a
sidebar of people we have maybe stopped hanging out with
because I'm like, I don't want my kids parenting their kids,
and it's also different parenting, and so it's hard to
then be friends with someone when yeah, when it's not like,
it's not trying to judge the parenting, But the same time,

(53:55):
I don't want my kids to see that too, So
you've I have rewrap did certain friendships for the kids,
primarily because I don't want my son or my daughter
seeing that as being okay and then not then said like, hey,
please stop you know or something you know, or or

(54:15):
to be how it's the word for them to acknowledge
that it's not a good bayor.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
And I think that it's a slippery slope to say
you're not judging. You're obviously not judging, but it is
still our job as parents to be in somewhat control
of what we can and who were around and who
they're around and what they see parent how you want
a parent. But that does not mean that I have
to be around for it. That does not make me
a judgmental person. I think sometimes we get a little

(54:42):
sensitive to that and we're afraid that people are. But
if you're going to be parenting different than me, and
we're going to be spending all this time with you.
That's probably not in the end going to work out
because you don't want your child making those And that
is for all ages. I mean that continues till later
on when they're starting to make some really bad decisions
and you're like like, ooh, you're parenting a different way
than me. I don't want my kid going down that path.

(55:04):
Your kid's going down this path, So you have to
make those kind of decisions. I do think at these
ages though, like two and four, I think as long
as you're stepping in and kind of regulating when the
behavior is not, I think that it's still yeah fine.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
And sometimes they can go in the opposite way too,
like when you step in and parent a certain way,
and it can show another parent to have the courage
to do that. Yeah, you know, absolutely, But.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
There is also we had something that happened with a
neighborhood boy who comes over and plays with Jas and
I actually I primarily only let them play over here
because I want to be the eyes and he's a
little bit older too, and so the play dates happen here.
But there's some things that happen and it's like, hey, buddy,
in this house, we don't say this. That's right. In
this house, we use kind words. In this house, we

(55:48):
don't do what that just So, if you're cool with that,
you can stay here and play. But if that continues,
you won't be allowed to play with him anymore. And
so I've had to have those conversations, you know, with him,
and if it happens again, well then he knows he's
out because something did happen one time where I was like, hey,
you won't be allowed to come back over here if
if that happens again, he said, I'm sorry, you know,
but he also didn't know that that was not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I'll start to know your rules. H Wait, so they
get I'm okay to be that mom. I do it
all the time. I got kids come in my house
all the time. I look at them and they're teenagers.
I'm like, you know that is not tolerated my house.
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, mis Catherine. I'll never
do it again. Like you have the rules if you're
going to come in my house. I have rules in
my house, and you can abide by them or you
can go hang out with somebody else. So you can

(56:30):
go home.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
We called a date the other day.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I called the play date the other day because Legend
had a friend, and I said, it just was like,
this kid is in kind of a loop right now,
and I'm like, okay, So finally, I just.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Said, but are you ready to head home?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Just feels like you're not really having fun here and
he was like no, and I said, well, like then
we need to, like, yeah, let's switch it up.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But I also expect this same sure if my kids
are at someone's house and I tell my kids that
all the time. Now their rule pamas ye Jolie before yeah,
I'm like, you follow their rules. Having said that, if
their rules are less stringent, my rules still apply.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yes, right.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
So that's another thing that's been interesting, Like somehow in
my kid's world, I'm the only mom that says they
cannot be in a bedroom with the opposite sex. Don't
believe I'm the only mom, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
It's probably rare thought.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I would think you're the rarity. Yeah, to be honest
from my experience, yes, I don't care. So I'm also
so Julie said the same thing because I won't let
her sleep over at someone's house. Because they have the
older brother. And I'm like, I'm sorry, you cannot sleep
over there. She's more than welcome to sleep over at
our house. But and again, that little boy is probably
the old older brother is in middle school. It's probably
he's he's such a sweet kid, and I still don't

(57:43):
allow it. I don't want that to happen. I don't
know if he's going to have a friend come over.
I don't know the other people like no.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
So many to that. I've told my girls all the time,
if someone can you good for them, spend the night
because you have an older brother, we respect that, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
If I have to leave and Cayden is watching a kid,
that kid, no matter what, cannot stay, cannot be in
the house. I'm not putting a hymn in that position.
I'm not putting another kid in position. We have so
many rules about that, yep.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
But so with the like whatever, you know, I'm like,
I don't care at that point what that parent's rules are.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Though.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
My rule is still that you don't go into a
bedroom alone with with the opposite sex. You know, that's
just that rule applies. There's several of those, but that's
a very good example, so I'll never forget. Not long ago,
Emmy was at a friend's house and it was a
group of them, but the mom was working in the
bonus room, so she sent them all into this girl

(58:36):
friend's room.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
But there were also boys.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
So Emmy literally sat the door was opened, she sat
outside of the bedroom for her and she like sent
us videos and like their friends were all and I'm like,
there you go, and no one's making fun of you.
They're like laughing about it, and y'all are like hanging out.
But like I was like, rule still is a plus?
Still apply? That's right.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
So to this listener, good on you for you know,
watching and seeing and this is just going to lead
you onto the older ages and and uh it's you know,
mama bear instincts and just does she have to say
anything to step at the sister in law like you said,
like like.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I mean, I think if she feels like she is
not getting the permission to step in, if she needs to, maybe,
but she'll follow, she'll see what she's doing exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
All right, ladies, this is fun, love y'all. Where will
our adventures take us next week? Oh man, stay tuned.
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What's it called m Starbucks go Rendez Latte extra.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
We'll pin it all right, keyword flyaway, Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Stay duned, bye bye,