September 3, 2025 • 27 mins
You know her as Callie the Sherrif’s wife in “The Hunting Wives” on Netflix, and now Jamie Ray Newman is hanging out with Jana to spill all the behind the scenes stories!
Jana reveals to Jamie that she was close to scoring the same role, and we find out ANOTHER Hunting Wives star also auditioned for the part.
Jaime takes us through the preparation for the show, which included picking out an “intimate” toy for a certain bedroom scene (IYKYK).
Plus, Jaime and Jana bond over the challenges of balancing a career as an actor with being a mom.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so a lot of chatter about hunting wives
that we've talked about on this couch. And guess what
we have Callie coming on formerly known as formally No,
It is Jamie Ray Newman. She's coming on. She plays Callie,
and you know, I just feel like we should just
(00:28):
I mean, I have so many questions, you know, the question,
she gets the question all the time. Let's get her on. Hi,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm good? How are you? Holl Why am I so
pretty beautiful?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Rhetorical?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't want to have children here mam of three,
mam of three? Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, so you know, because you have how many do
you have?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I have two?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You have two? And what are the ages?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Five and six?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Love it? Okay, well we'll just jump right in, all right.
So I think the coolest part about well, just for starters,
we are also Michigan girls, all of us, Yeah, which
I think makes us pretty rad, which is probably why
we're so cool and laid back, don't you think too,
There's something about Michigan anders. Well, I'm from I was
born in Detroit, but I was raised in Rochester, Washington Township.
(01:22):
So I went to Rochester Adams because it was the
only school we had, like in that area. So that's
where I'm from. And then ann Arbor area Saline Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, oh my god, wow, Michigan girls in the house.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's like we work a card. We have good grit.
I feel like we're grit. That's what the therapist says.
She's like, all right, She's like, you're a scrapper. That's
what it is, like, shustler, you just scrapped the greatest
compliment you could ever get ever anyone.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
When did you move out to Los Angeles from Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I left Michigan when I was eighteen. So I went
to like I went to this to a Jewish day
school called hell El Day School, and then I went
to Cranbrook Cranbroop.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, my cousin went there.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, so it's a very artistic, you know, like when
when I knew I was an artsy kid, I went
to interlock In Arts camp in the summer.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is with your blue Polo Jamie with.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You, with my blue with my knickers, with my blue
knickers and red sox.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What a time?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
What a time. I mean the most glorious time of
my life. I pray that one of my children, any anyone,
because my mom went there. I have photos of my
mom and like her blue knickers for blue Polo and
a giant hickey on her neck. Mom from like the
Obo player that she was in love with.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
No reds weren't the only thing getting wet easy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. So I left when I was eighteen. I went
to I started at Boston University. I was a theater major.
I was at their conservatory. It wasn't for me. I
left and went to Northwestern, which is, you know, outside
of Chicago. I was an English major. I was a
Russian lit miner. I studied drama. I produced plays there.
I had a spectacular couple of years living in Chicago
(03:04):
outside of Chicago and Evanston. And then I moved to
LA when I was twenty two. And I've been here
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, which makes you a resident at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh yeah, that's wearing in lay longer than yeah. No, wait,
I haven't been here twenty five years. That can't be.
I think maybe twenty two years or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I remember when I moved to last because I just
moved back, well, not just moved back. I moved back
before twenty twenty. But it was one of those things
where's it feels like forever being out there, but then
you're like, oh, wait, no, it's only been twelve years
or whatever. It's kind of like dog years out there exactly. Yeah,
it feels like a lot because it is.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are you wear y'all? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now we're in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh no way, I feel like everyone's moving to Nashville.
Why is everyone moving to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't know what they are, and the traffic is
reflecting it. If I'm completely honest, it is but welcome.
It's all good. I don't know, but it's great though.
I Mean, when I was having my second, it was
one of those things where I felt like I was
able to be comfortable at a place where if I
had to get back to LA I could for a meeting,
but I felt good enough. I you know, Michigan roots,
(04:06):
so something about I wanted my kids to play outside.
I couldn't the house that we had there. It was
like dirt and turf and it was just like small,
and I'm like, I wanted just a bigger home for
my kids and I knew that the way of living
for them would be better here just for what I
could give them. So it was either that or move
out to Calibata or what was it, Santa Clarita. I'm like, well,
(04:29):
I might as well move to Nashville because it's.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh it's a or Yeah. We have friends who owned
a shoe box in Venice, like nine, you know, eight
hundred square feet. They were pregnant with their second child.
I mean I think that they had bought it like
ten years fifteen years earlier. They sold it for like
two and a half million dollars or something insane and
(04:51):
bought basically a compound in Ohai. I mean to raise
you know. Now they have four kids. So I get it.
I understand. It's uh, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't do you want to knock it off with that?
I have to go right in, Jamie, No I do, girl, are.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We gonna start with that scene?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know it was a pink because I did
not blame that, Jamie. Okay, I did not have lam.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The big pink hydro job. Well, it is a big tildo.
It is as big as.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It was in the scene. Is from what it is
burned into my memory. I do have to say we
started watching Hunting Wives because I married a redneck, and
he was like, Hunting Wives, we're going to do this.
I think he thought what we were going to watch
was so different. He was not upset with what we
were watching. Sure, right, but your character specifically has a
(05:42):
history on this couch. Do we want to talk about it?
So I actually got pinned for the roll of Cali.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh my god, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, So I got pinned and it was right after
my gosh, like right after I gave birth to Roman.
So I'm already like so emotional, right, and so I
got pinnos. So they're like, you know, you got pinned,
blah blah blah, sending your tapes for the testing, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, well obviously I didn't get
it right. So it was like, you know, as an actress,
it's like you get so close. I almost hate getting
(06:11):
close life.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, it's my life every day of the week. Yeah,
it's like when.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's pulled the same thing. I just tested for something
two weeks ago, you know, got the call, didn't get it,
and I'm like, I'd rather not even get close. Because
the getting close is what like hurts the most because
then it's just like you can almost taste it and
then it goes away. And so at first I'm like,
I'm not going to watch the show, but I'm like, no, like,
celebrate the person that got it and watch the show.
(06:38):
It's getting you know, all these reviews, and it's like
I want to see it, and I'm like, damn, she
was the right person for the job. You were incrediable,
like you were so good, and I was just like
watching it. So they want and wanted to watch it
too because they knew that like the whole story of like,
but I didn't know what part. I didn't ask Kurt.
I didn't want to know what part it would have been,
(06:59):
and I was trying to guess. Yeah, but I do
think that you're Cassie you or has a type because
they obviously like Michigan girls to play that role. It's
very strong women. I'm like, Okay, I see where we're
headed here. But I was like she obviously, I'm like, yeah,
of course, not only are you an amazing actress, but
I was like, you were the perfect Cali, so well
(07:21):
well done, like amazing, And we were talking about the
show last week on the show, and I was like,
can we please get her on because I just want
to talk about all of it, but also like the
because she had said something about being a mom and
doing those scenes, and I'm like, well, she's a mom,
you know, so it's like but I'm like, how fun
would it be to play that role too? But she
was also I'll let you finish that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I just was like, does she ever worried that
her kids will see that scene? Or like how does
that play out as an actress? Because I've I'm not
in your world. I married a country music artist and
I am best friends with an actress, and so I
see the behind the scenes all the time, and I'm like,
how does it? How do you read? And did you
read knowing that that was going to be in there?
(08:03):
And I just I know it expands and you guys
have these creative, incredible minds, and I just want to
know how you get there? How do you get there?
Kelly tell us, Did you know what was coming for you?
Is my first part of that question.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, when I when I think when I auditioned for
it, it said like simulated sex or something. You know, there's
like a disclaimer nudity or you know whatever, and it
didn't say nudity, but it's a simulated sex. And I
was like, all right, whatever, I mean, that's fine by me.
And then when I got when I got the job,
I they said there is a scene that you need
to sign off on. And I was like, okay. And
(08:44):
my my agent, one of my agents, who's you know,
it is like fifty sixties gay, lovely, like sweetheart. I
love him so much. And my manager, who is also
you know, in her late fifties. I've been with her
for twenty five years. She's like my other sister mother,
you know whatever. They were like, well, it involves pegging.
(09:06):
And I was like, what is pegging?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Google's pegging chat GBT, what is pegging?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The two of them, my agent and my manager, who
are you know, not young people, Uh've been married, both
married for many many years, you know. They had to
explain to me what pegging was. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Tell me your first thought once you hear that this
is the scene you're signing off on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Honestly, I didn't think that much of it. I mean
I thought, like I read they gave me all the scripts.
I read all eight. This is before I signed I
signed my deal. I read all of them and I
was like, this is just candy. This is what the
world needs right now. This is forty something year old
women taking their clothes off, having a great time, enjoining themselves.
(09:56):
Bring it, you know what I mean, Like, Yes, let's
do this. Let's show the world that your life doesn't
happen when you're thirty five or forty five, or you
know what I mean, Like, if anyone is going to
see this, let's like, let this be the thing that
people see. So I wasn't scared of it. I wasn't
intimidated by it. I had a great time shooting it.
(10:18):
We got to set that morning. I had a great
scene partner, the guy playing my husband, Branton Box. I
want to give him a huge shout out. He was
just a joy to work with and play ball with
from day one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No pun intended, no exactly we were playing BALLMB or two.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But we arrived to set that morning. We had a
lovely intimacy coordinator, Brandon and I had fully Corey. We
had a couple of days earlier gone to the actual set,
gone to the bed that we were shooting it on
rehearsed the whole thing. We arrived to set that morning.
I'm not kidding you. There's fourteen dildos lined up on
the dresser and I look at my TV husband and
(10:58):
I was like, well, Babe, your call which you choose?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
This is wild. My hands are sweating. It is amazing,
so good.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He chose the hot pink one. You know, there was
like flesh color, there was black, there was you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
This is wild, every color bow. I feel like you
had more modest scenes than most of the women on
your cast. Like I saw a lot of parts of
(11:34):
your co stars that I feel like I didn't see
a few years were more implied, which I also kind
of respected to, you know, like yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Mean it was it wasn't even like really a conversation.
I mean it was it was you know, the scenes
with my scenes with Malon were sort of implying and
then the scene cut, So I don't know that was
just the nature of the scenes. But you know, Malon
mall and Is. I love her. I love that woman.
She is a tremendous human being and game for everything.
(12:08):
And just the thing about this show that was really
unique was a it was all women. I mean you guys, know,
like it's so rare that that, you know, usually you're
the token, and this was all women, and it was
women who've been around for a long time. There was
there were no new bees. I mean, Germ's not a woman,
but you know, Chrissy Starr, Chrissy Metz obviously, Britt Mall
(12:31):
and Katie Lowe's like these are actresses that had been
flogging it for years and years. And I think all
of us it was right after the strike. It was
my first audition after the strike. I think all of
us were just so being excited to be on set
and with each other. I think we were all those
of us with kids were a little excited to have
a break.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Fair that's very fair, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And so there was just an infectious joy on that
and not a bad apple in the bunch truly, Like
oftentimes you're sort of covering and this was just it
was a great, great time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh, I just love that so much.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I think we thought by the way that no one
would ever see it. Maybe that's why we so much
because at first, like where did it?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Because at first it was supposed to be at Stars
and so that's where I was like Netflix I was
so and I was always wondering, like, what happened to it?
Because it was it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There was about a year where we were all texting
each other. We have like a group chat TXT with
all of us in our showrunner and we're basically like,
because that's happened to me before. I did a serie
and a show for Netflix about three four years ago,
shot eight up maybe ten episodes, moved my whole family
to Vancouver, the whole thing, and they dumped it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
No, no, oh god.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I never saw it was a tax write off. It
never saw the light of day. And it was devastating, devastating,
and I have ptsc from that, and so that I
thought this is I thought, I have a feeling this
is the road that we're that we're going down. But
you know, this business is so tough, it's so awful
and brutal, and there's so I've experienced so much rejection,
(14:08):
so much heartbreak. But every now and then there's an
expression from AA, you know, don't put before the miracle happens,
you know, like every now and then you just get
surprised by the journey of something. And this was this
was just a gigantic, surprise, huge.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You can see the joy on your face when I
wish this is when I wish it wasn't a podcast,
because just the way you glow when you talk about
your castmates and the experience is so special. I feel
like and not normal, right, there's something magical when it's
just it's it's all like a great cast and like
she was saying, like it's when everyone is truly just
so grateful to be there. And I think I took
(14:49):
when I was a series regular back in the day
in my twenties, I took that for granted a bit.
And now it's like I am fighting to get back
on being serious regular and it's like what I would
give to like I would have. There's just I just
think there's more gratefulness in your forties with what you're
doing and like what you love to do, you.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of us are parents.
You know mom and has a son, Katie loves Katie
and I do you know this story?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, she actually came on the podcast about a year
year and a half ago talk. I can't remember what
she had. I think something out, but she was saying
that you guys kids went to the same school, like
the whole thing. I'm like, that's lovely, Like I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
She auditioned for Calie.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That is yeah, you know this story. Yeah, well she
my producer had said that too. She's like, hey, she
also auditioned. I was like, well, that's crazy. But she's
like so perfect for her role too, which is just
again wild.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah it was. And you know, she and I were
just on planes together, you know, twenty six, twenty seven times,
and when we would get a day and a half off,
like we were on a plane home back to see
her kids and going back and I would see each
other at like school drop off at seven thirty in
the morning, like looking like the tiredest human beings.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
What is happening? Little do those moms not know what
was happening? And then but you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But that's why I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And that's what I was telling the girls the other day.
I'm like, shows like it just is fun, Like you
get to truly be a character and just I just
I'm like, man, that is so like so it's just
so much joy around being able to have fun and
do those things. And look, everyone's talking and it's it's buzzing,
and I mean, there's no way you guys don't get
a season two. I mean with the amount of views
(16:25):
that you've guys gotten, it would be we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean I can't flicks. You know, hey, Netflix, you
guys are the idiots. But but I we haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah. I wondered if you were sworn to secrecy.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
No, I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I mean, it's really up for a perfect start to
a second season.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And also then I get mad if they don't do
a second season because you actually owe us. There's no doubt.
You can't leave me, you know, I get like a
little emotionally connected.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think the big debates about the second season is
will we come back in wigs? I think that is.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Obviously because yours and mollt Mallin's character both were the wigs,
and that was just was that you all's decision or
who's whose part was that?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I think I didn't know that Mallin was going to
be in a wig. I'd never met her before we
all arrived. And these were discussions that happened like a
month or two earlier. Because they have to do the
headfitting and whatever. I think. Very early on, I was like,
I think she needs hair.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just you know, well Texas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You know they're not doing like but maybe season two,
maybe Callie, you know, we'll chop it all up. I
don't know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I like that. And and you also John ban a
Ramsey series. When do you start filming that?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We march?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, amazing, so good. Anything else that you're coming up
that you are excited about?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I I chot the John Bone Ramsey miniseries with
Melissa McCarthy plays her mother and Clive Owen plays the dad.
And I really wow, Melissa is I mean, you know,
we all see her sort of the comedian and she
is brilliant. She is brilliant. And to just be there
(18:35):
on set with her and watch her over the course
of months play this play this very very difficult role. Anyway,
I can't wait to see it. I think that she's
going to get I hope she gets all the flowers
for this, because she's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is it like a different tone than doing something that's
based on reality, based on fiction, because that's a really
heavy story.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was crazy because I went from like wild text
the you know, real life fun girls every weekend out
parting to so hardcore, you know, every I was like
just crying for days and days and days. You know,
I play her a real woman, I play her best friend,
and you know, we find Jean vonnet at you know,
(19:19):
we're the first people to find her. So that we
shot finding the body over the course of days. I
mean it was they literally recreated on a sound stage
the entire three story home like they were. I walked
in one day and they were weaving. There was weavers
weaving the same rugs that was in jovin a Ramsey's house,
like everything down to every detail. And to have to
(19:42):
I still get goosebumps to have to like channel that,
and you know, being a parent, oh my god, that
was that was rough. So let's see. I hope it's.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Good as a parent. You said, you have five and
six year old. What is your biggest challenge right now
balancing the two.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So we just got back on Friday. I've been gone
the whole, like release of The Hunting Wives, the whole
like I've been I've been in the woods of Canada.
My husband is a filmmaker as a director, and we
produced together we're producing partners, and we just shot our
next film. We were away for three months in uh
the wilderness of Vancouver Island, and we brought our kids
(20:20):
and they missed their first week of school because we
didn't we didn't wrap in time. You know. It's really tough.
It's really really hard. It just takes a very big
village to juggle it all. And I am I have
sort of uh, I'm becoming a piece with the fact
that maybe I'm sort of mediocre at both.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
No, that's just motherhood and trying to work.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think nothing has brought me to my knees like
being a parent. Nothing, no, producing a film, getting a job,
not getting a job. Nothing has been a challenge to me,
like like try and eraised kids. I am. I am
in the wilderness, lost.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
While trying to also live your dreams too, you know,
and that that is that's.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You guys know, you know, how do you how do
you do it? It is?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It is not well, not well recently. Yeah, but it
is funny that you said, you know the village, because
I just last night I left and I took our
oldest to ballet and I came home, you know, and
then I'm trying to fit in, like What's the most
effective thing I can do while I'm at ballet for
two hours? Right, because you're just trying to like, how
do I how can I make this about me a
(21:32):
little bit?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then I got home and my husband was just
alone for two hours. That was it, And and our
Saint Christine's we call her, had left at five and
at seven I walked in, and I'm like, what happened
in here? You know? And I thought like if I
didn't have her, how it just it's you know, like
nothing's ever perfect, but just the help that she's provided
(21:53):
took me three kids, a lot of stubbornness, my Michigan roots,
all of that to get over to finally get help,
and it has absolutely changed my life. So and I
watch my best friend go out and do and live
her dreams and get the help she needs. And it's
not easier for any of us. I'd assume you the
same to ask for help because of just our you know,
(22:15):
how old are are all the same? Nine six and
almost two?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh, so you guys also have littles. Yeah, you're also
so in.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The Yeah, and it's all balancing the thing where it's like,
you know, they they moved a production, so I just
shot something and I'm like, I can't miss the first
day and so I you know, So it's and I
have missed certain things that break my heart, and so
it's trying to find the balance and also tell them,
like Mommy, you know, needs to be gone because this
is her dream, this is how she provides for everybody,
(22:43):
and the clothes that you'm all, I mean, all the things,
you know, but it's you know, it's trying to be
there but also live dreams too. But it's hard. And
I don't think I ever are going to feel like
we've nailed parenting. I think we should just release ourselves
from that immediately and then we can just enjoy the ride. Yeah,
And I was so overwhelmed the other day, so I'll
(23:04):
just calm myself out. I literally could not stand My
kids for some reason are just getting really picky with
her food and they're just complaining about it, and I
was like, just eat your food, like I just like
I couldn't handle it anymore. And I'm just like and
then I usually don't yell like that, but I stepped
away from the table and even Alan gave me a
look like whoa, And I'm like, I got I don't know.
I'm just like I'm overwhelmed. I'm over like I'm tired,
(23:26):
and like eat your salmon. Do you want me to
start showing you pictures of kids in Gaza? I'm getting there.
Do you guys to see the children commercials? I mean,
I think it does have an impact on our world, right, yeah,
these lavish little babies here, we are providing worlds where
they don't have to miss things that we missed. But
it's also like some of those things shape a human,
(23:46):
you know. So you're doing great, You're doing exceptionally.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The kids from what I'm realizing, I don't think the
kids will ever be grateful, Like it's very hard for
a five six, seven year old to understand what, you know,
I wasn't certainly, you know, And I remember my you know,
probably being shown the kids and you know, live Aid
and Ethiopia, and you know, I don't think that it's
(24:10):
very difficult for a child to connect that. But I
just am learning how to like keep my together, keep
my cool, that is for me the biggest challenge, and
then thinking of alternatives to distract them or to you
know that I don't. I don't think that I am
innately like I have friends who are just innately amazing parents. Actually,
(24:35):
Mollan Mallin said to me one day, I would be
if I was an actress, I would be like a
child psychologist. And I look at her and the advice
that she gives and just the way that she navigates parenting.
I don't have that intrinsically, and I kind of think
you're born with it or you're not. And I am
really really just learning on the go. But also like
(24:57):
I had my first child at forty, so even going
to my mom and my mom my parents were amazing parents,
I mean, really really great great parents. He doesn't remember.
So the concept of like aunties and grandma's and cousins
and nieces and nephews and all around in the quote
unquote village, like, I have none of that. My husband's
family they're all, you know, broad like, so I rely
(25:19):
on Instagram, you know, doctor Becky.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh oh, doctor Becky. Love Well that's a thing too, though,
like what you were saying, like if we had our
last one in our at forty so it's there's something
with the hormones too in that age, you know, It's
way different than when my babies that I had in thirties.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It just is, are you tired? Are you just tired.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All your time and exhausted by the end of the night.
I'm like depleted, like I'm walking through drying cement some days.
That is also I'm chasing around to almost two year old.
That's like insane, but that's also true us.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You both have two year olds.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, we didn't plan any you know, but yeah, no,
but you're doing great. You're doing great, and we're going
to pass that along to ourselves too. Jamie, you are awesome.
I am just rooting for a season two because it's
just so fun to watch y'all's characters. And yeah, if
(26:14):
you're ever in Nashville, come on, come on over.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Honestly, I swear to god, my husband said, because we're
always talking about what are other places rather than la
We have our favorite coffee shop, the Red Red Window
in Studio City, which we love so much. Love they
we got we got home on Friday, landed and went
right to our favorite coffee shop, of course, and they
moved to Nashville. Wow, And so guys said to me.
(26:38):
My husband was like, do we need to move to Nashville.
I mean, I thought that when we were shooting in Charlotte.
Do we need to move to Charlotte? Right?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, it's it's easy to fallow similar it is, it
really is. But we will welcome you, We really will.
And I'm gonna need you. Well, You're a California driver.
I'll take that any day. It's the rest of these
folks I can't handle. Jamie.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thank you, guys so much, so much.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Appreciate you girl. We love you.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Godh
Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, so a lot of chatter about hunting wives
that we've talked about on this couch. And guess what
we have Callie coming on formerly known as formally No,
It is Jamie Ray Newman. She's coming on. She plays Callie,
and you know, I just feel like we should just
(00:28):
I mean, I have so many questions, you know, the question,
she gets the question all the time. Let's get her on. Hi,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm good? How are you? Holl Why am I so
pretty beautiful?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Rhetorical?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't want to have children here mam of three,
mam of three? Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, so you know, because you have how many do
you have?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I have two?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You have two? And what are the ages?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Five and six?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Love it? Okay, well we'll just jump right in, all right.
So I think the coolest part about well, just for starters,
we are also Michigan girls, all of us, Yeah, which
I think makes us pretty rad, which is probably why
we're so cool and laid back, don't you think too,
There's something about Michigan anders. Well, I'm from I was
born in Detroit, but I was raised in Rochester, Washington Township.
(01:22):
So I went to Rochester Adams because it was the
only school we had, like in that area. So that's
where I'm from. And then ann Arbor area Saline Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, oh my god, wow, Michigan girls in the house.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's like we work a card. We have good grit.
I feel like we're grit. That's what the therapist says.
She's like, all right, She's like, you're a scrapper. That's
what it is, like, shustler, you just scrapped the greatest
compliment you could ever get ever anyone.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
When did you move out to Los Angeles from Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I left Michigan when I was eighteen. So I went
to like I went to this to a Jewish day
school called hell El Day School, and then I went
to Cranbrook Cranbroop.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, my cousin went there.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, so it's a very artistic, you know, like when
when I knew I was an artsy kid, I went
to interlock In Arts camp in the summer.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is with your blue Polo Jamie with.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You, with my blue with my knickers, with my blue
knickers and red sox.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What a time?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
What a time. I mean the most glorious time of
my life. I pray that one of my children, any anyone,
because my mom went there. I have photos of my
mom and like her blue knickers for blue Polo and
a giant hickey on her neck. Mom from like the
Obo player that she was in love with.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
No reds weren't the only thing getting wet easy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. So I left when I was eighteen. I went
to I started at Boston University. I was a theater major.
I was at their conservatory. It wasn't for me. I
left and went to Northwestern, which is, you know, outside
of Chicago. I was an English major. I was a
Russian lit miner. I studied drama. I produced plays there.
I had a spectacular couple of years living in Chicago
(03:04):
outside of Chicago and Evanston. And then I moved to
LA when I was twenty two. And I've been here
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, which makes you a resident at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh yeah, that's wearing in lay longer than yeah. No, wait,
I haven't been here twenty five years. That can't be.
I think maybe twenty two years or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I remember when I moved to last because I just
moved back, well, not just moved back. I moved back
before twenty twenty. But it was one of those things
where's it feels like forever being out there, but then
you're like, oh, wait, no, it's only been twelve years
or whatever. It's kind of like dog years out there exactly. Yeah,
it feels like a lot because it is.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Are you wear y'all? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now we're in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh no way, I feel like everyone's moving to Nashville.
Why is everyone moving to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't know what they are, and the traffic is
reflecting it. If I'm completely honest, it is but welcome.
It's all good. I don't know, but it's great though.
I Mean, when I was having my second, it was
one of those things where I felt like I was
able to be comfortable at a place where if I
had to get back to LA I could for a meeting,
but I felt good enough. I you know, Michigan roots,
(04:06):
so something about I wanted my kids to play outside.
I couldn't the house that we had there. It was
like dirt and turf and it was just like small,
and I'm like, I wanted just a bigger home for
my kids and I knew that the way of living
for them would be better here just for what I
could give them. So it was either that or move
out to Calibata or what was it, Santa Clarita. I'm like, well,
(04:29):
I might as well move to Nashville because it's.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh it's a or Yeah. We have friends who owned
a shoe box in Venice, like nine, you know, eight
hundred square feet. They were pregnant with their second child.
I mean I think that they had bought it like
ten years fifteen years earlier. They sold it for like
two and a half million dollars or something insane and
(04:51):
bought basically a compound in Ohai. I mean to raise
you know. Now they have four kids. So I get it.
I understand. It's uh, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't do you want to knock it off with that?
I have to go right in, Jamie, No I do, girl, are.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We gonna start with that scene?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know it was a pink because I did
not blame that, Jamie. Okay, I did not have lam.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The big pink hydro job. Well, it is a big tildo.
It is as big as.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It was in the scene. Is from what it is
burned into my memory. I do have to say we
started watching Hunting Wives because I married a redneck, and
he was like, Hunting Wives, we're going to do this.
I think he thought what we were going to watch
was so different. He was not upset with what we
were watching. Sure, right, but your character specifically has a
(05:42):
history on this couch. Do we want to talk about it?
So I actually got pinned for the roll of Cali.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh my god, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, So I got pinned and it was right after
my gosh, like right after I gave birth to Roman.
So I'm already like so emotional, right, and so I
got pinnos. So they're like, you know, you got pinned,
blah blah blah, sending your tapes for the testing, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, well obviously I didn't get
it right. So it was like, you know, as an actress,
it's like you get so close. I almost hate getting
(06:11):
close life.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, it's my life every day of the week. Yeah,
it's like when.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's pulled the same thing. I just tested for something
two weeks ago, you know, got the call, didn't get it,
and I'm like, I'd rather not even get close. Because
the getting close is what like hurts the most because
then it's just like you can almost taste it and
then it goes away. And so at first I'm like,
I'm not going to watch the show, but I'm like, no, like,
celebrate the person that got it and watch the show.
(06:38):
It's getting you know, all these reviews, and it's like
I want to see it, and I'm like, damn, she
was the right person for the job. You were incrediable,
like you were so good, and I was just like
watching it. So they want and wanted to watch it
too because they knew that like the whole story of like,
but I didn't know what part. I didn't ask Kurt.
I didn't want to know what part it would have been,
(06:59):
and I was trying to guess. Yeah, but I do
think that you're Cassie you or has a type because
they obviously like Michigan girls to play that role. It's
very strong women. I'm like, Okay, I see where we're
headed here. But I was like she obviously, I'm like, yeah,
of course, not only are you an amazing actress, but
I was like, you were the perfect Cali, so well
(07:21):
well done, like amazing, And we were talking about the
show last week on the show, and I was like,
can we please get her on because I just want
to talk about all of it, but also like the
because she had said something about being a mom and
doing those scenes, and I'm like, well, she's a mom,
you know, so it's like but I'm like, how fun
would it be to play that role too? But she
was also I'll let you finish that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I just was like, does she ever worried that
her kids will see that scene? Or like how does
that play out as an actress? Because I've I'm not
in your world. I married a country music artist and
I am best friends with an actress, and so I
see the behind the scenes all the time, and I'm like,
how does it? How do you read? And did you
read knowing that that was going to be in there?
(08:03):
And I just I know it expands and you guys
have these creative, incredible minds, and I just want to
know how you get there? How do you get there?
Kelly tell us, Did you know what was coming for you?
Is my first part of that question.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, when I when I think when I auditioned for
it, it said like simulated sex or something. You know, there's
like a disclaimer nudity or you know whatever, and it
didn't say nudity, but it's a simulated sex. And I
was like, all right, whatever, I mean, that's fine by me.
And then when I got when I got the job,
I they said there is a scene that you need
to sign off on. And I was like, okay. And
(08:44):
my my agent, one of my agents, who's you know,
it is like fifty sixties gay, lovely, like sweetheart. I
love him so much. And my manager, who is also
you know, in her late fifties. I've been with her
for twenty five years. She's like my other sister mother,
you know whatever. They were like, well, it involves pegging.
(09:06):
And I was like, what is pegging?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Google's pegging chat GBT, what is pegging?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The two of them, my agent and my manager, who
are you know, not young people, Uh've been married, both
married for many many years, you know. They had to
explain to me what pegging was. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Tell me your first thought once you hear that this
is the scene you're signing off on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Honestly, I didn't think that much of it. I mean
I thought, like I read they gave me all the scripts.
I read all eight. This is before I signed I
signed my deal. I read all of them and I
was like, this is just candy. This is what the
world needs right now. This is forty something year old
women taking their clothes off, having a great time, enjoining themselves.
(09:56):
Bring it, you know what I mean, Like, Yes, let's
do this. Let's show the world that your life doesn't
happen when you're thirty five or forty five, or you
know what I mean, Like, if anyone is going to
see this, let's like, let this be the thing that
people see. So I wasn't scared of it. I wasn't
intimidated by it. I had a great time shooting it.
(10:18):
We got to set that morning. I had a great
scene partner, the guy playing my husband, Branton Box. I
want to give him a huge shout out. He was
just a joy to work with and play ball with
from day one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No pun intended, no exactly we were playing BALLMB or two.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But we arrived to set that morning. We had a
lovely intimacy coordinator, Brandon and I had fully Corey. We
had a couple of days earlier gone to the actual set,
gone to the bed that we were shooting it on
rehearsed the whole thing. We arrived to set that morning.
I'm not kidding you. There's fourteen dildos lined up on
the dresser and I look at my TV husband and
(10:58):
I was like, well, Babe, your call which you choose?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
This is wild. My hands are sweating. It is amazing,
so good.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He chose the hot pink one. You know, there was
like flesh color, there was black, there was you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
This is wild, every color bow. I feel like you
had more modest scenes than most of the women on
your cast. Like I saw a lot of parts of
(11:34):
your co stars that I feel like I didn't see
a few years were more implied, which I also kind
of respected to, you know, like yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Mean it was it wasn't even like really a conversation.
I mean it was it was you know, the scenes
with my scenes with Malon were sort of implying and
then the scene cut, So I don't know that was
just the nature of the scenes. But you know, Malon
mall and Is. I love her. I love that woman.
She is a tremendous human being and game for everything.
(12:08):
And just the thing about this show that was really
unique was a it was all women. I mean you guys, know,
like it's so rare that that, you know, usually you're
the token, and this was all women, and it was
women who've been around for a long time. There was
there were no new bees. I mean, Germ's not a woman,
but you know, Chrissy Starr, Chrissy Metz obviously, Britt Mall
(12:31):
and Katie Lowe's like these are actresses that had been
flogging it for years and years. And I think all
of us it was right after the strike. It was
my first audition after the strike. I think all of
us were just so being excited to be on set
and with each other. I think we were all those
of us with kids were a little excited to have
a break.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Fair that's very fair, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And so there was just an infectious joy on that
and not a bad apple in the bunch truly, Like
oftentimes you're sort of covering and this was just it
was a great, great time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh, I just love that so much.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I think we thought by the way that no one
would ever see it. Maybe that's why we so much
because at first, like where did it?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Because at first it was supposed to be at Stars
and so that's where I was like Netflix I was
so and I was always wondering, like, what happened to it?
Because it was it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There was about a year where we were all texting
each other. We have like a group chat TXT with
all of us in our showrunner and we're basically like,
because that's happened to me before. I did a serie
and a show for Netflix about three four years ago,
shot eight up maybe ten episodes, moved my whole family
to Vancouver, the whole thing, and they dumped it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
No, no, oh god.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I never saw it was a tax write off. It
never saw the light of day. And it was devastating, devastating,
and I have ptsc from that, and so that I
thought this is I thought, I have a feeling this
is the road that we're that we're going down. But
you know, this business is so tough, it's so awful
and brutal, and there's so I've experienced so much rejection,
(14:08):
so much heartbreak. But every now and then there's an
expression from AA, you know, don't put before the miracle happens,
you know, like every now and then you just get
surprised by the journey of something. And this was this
was just a gigantic, surprise, huge.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You can see the joy on your face when I
wish this is when I wish it wasn't a podcast,
because just the way you glow when you talk about
your castmates and the experience is so special. I feel
like and not normal, right, there's something magical when it's
just it's it's all like a great cast and like
she was saying, like it's when everyone is truly just
so grateful to be there. And I think I took
(14:49):
when I was a series regular back in the day
in my twenties, I took that for granted a bit.
And now it's like I am fighting to get back
on being serious regular and it's like what I would
give to like I would have. There's just I just
think there's more gratefulness in your forties with what you're
doing and like what you love to do, you.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of us are parents.
You know mom and has a son, Katie loves Katie
and I do you know this story?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, she actually came on the podcast about a year
year and a half ago talk. I can't remember what
she had. I think something out, but she was saying
that you guys kids went to the same school, like
the whole thing. I'm like, that's lovely, Like I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
She auditioned for Calie.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That is yeah, you know this story. Yeah, well she
my producer had said that too. She's like, hey, she
also auditioned. I was like, well, that's crazy. But she's
like so perfect for her role too, which is just
again wild.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah it was. And you know, she and I were
just on planes together, you know, twenty six, twenty seven times,
and when we would get a day and a half off,
like we were on a plane home back to see
her kids and going back and I would see each
other at like school drop off at seven thirty in
the morning, like looking like the tiredest human beings.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
What is happening? Little do those moms not know what
was happening? And then but you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But that's why I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And that's what I was telling the girls the other day.
I'm like, shows like it just is fun, Like you
get to truly be a character and just I just
I'm like, man, that is so like so it's just
so much joy around being able to have fun and
do those things. And look, everyone's talking and it's it's buzzing,
and I mean, there's no way you guys don't get
a season two. I mean with the amount of views
(16:25):
that you've guys gotten, it would be we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean I can't flicks. You know, hey, Netflix, you
guys are the idiots. But but I we haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah. I wondered if you were sworn to secrecy.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
No, I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I mean, it's really up for a perfect start to
a second season.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And also then I get mad if they don't do
a second season because you actually owe us. There's no doubt.
You can't leave me, you know, I get like a
little emotionally connected.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think the big debates about the second season is
will we come back in wigs? I think that is.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Obviously because yours and mollt Mallin's character both were the wigs,
and that was just was that you all's decision or
who's whose part was that?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I think I didn't know that Mallin was going to
be in a wig. I'd never met her before we
all arrived. And these were discussions that happened like a
month or two earlier. Because they have to do the
headfitting and whatever. I think. Very early on, I was like,
I think she needs hair.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I just you know, well Texas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You know they're not doing like but maybe season two,
maybe Callie, you know, we'll chop it all up. I
don't know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I like that. And and you also John ban a
Ramsey series. When do you start filming that?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We march?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, amazing, so good. Anything else that you're coming up
that you are excited about?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I I chot the John Bone Ramsey miniseries with
Melissa McCarthy plays her mother and Clive Owen plays the dad.
And I really wow, Melissa is I mean, you know,
we all see her sort of the comedian and she
is brilliant. She is brilliant. And to just be there
(18:35):
on set with her and watch her over the course
of months play this play this very very difficult role. Anyway,
I can't wait to see it. I think that she's
going to get I hope she gets all the flowers
for this, because she's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is it like a different tone than doing something that's
based on reality, based on fiction, because that's a really
heavy story.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was crazy because I went from like wild text
the you know, real life fun girls every weekend out
parting to so hardcore, you know, every I was like
just crying for days and days and days. You know,
I play her a real woman, I play her best friend,
and you know, we find Jean vonnet at you know,
(19:19):
we're the first people to find her. So that we
shot finding the body over the course of days. I
mean it was they literally recreated on a sound stage
the entire three story home like they were. I walked
in one day and they were weaving. There was weavers
weaving the same rugs that was in jovin a Ramsey's house,
like everything down to every detail. And to have to
(19:42):
I still get goosebumps to have to like channel that,
and you know, being a parent, oh my god, that
was that was rough. So let's see. I hope it's.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Good as a parent. You said, you have five and
six year old. What is your biggest challenge right now
balancing the two.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So we just got back on Friday. I've been gone
the whole, like release of The Hunting Wives, the whole
like I've been I've been in the woods of Canada.
My husband is a filmmaker as a director, and we
produced together we're producing partners, and we just shot our
next film. We were away for three months in uh
the wilderness of Vancouver Island, and we brought our kids
(20:20):
and they missed their first week of school because we
didn't we didn't wrap in time. You know. It's really tough.
It's really really hard. It just takes a very big
village to juggle it all. And I am I have
sort of uh, I'm becoming a piece with the fact
that maybe I'm sort of mediocre at both.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
No, that's just motherhood and trying to work.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think nothing has brought me to my knees like
being a parent. Nothing, no, producing a film, getting a job,
not getting a job. Nothing has been a challenge to me,
like like try and eraised kids. I am. I am
in the wilderness, lost.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
While trying to also live your dreams too, you know,
and that that is that's.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You guys know, you know, how do you how do
you do it? It is?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It is not well, not well recently. Yeah, but it
is funny that you said, you know the village, because
I just last night I left and I took our
oldest to ballet and I came home, you know, and
then I'm trying to fit in, like What's the most
effective thing I can do while I'm at ballet for
two hours? Right, because you're just trying to like, how
do I how can I make this about me a
(21:32):
little bit?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then I got home and my husband was just
alone for two hours. That was it, And and our
Saint Christine's we call her, had left at five and
at seven I walked in, and I'm like, what happened
in here? You know? And I thought like if I
didn't have her, how it just it's you know, like
nothing's ever perfect, but just the help that she's provided
(21:53):
took me three kids, a lot of stubbornness, my Michigan roots,
all of that to get over to finally get help,
and it has absolutely changed my life. So and I
watch my best friend go out and do and live
her dreams and get the help she needs. And it's
not easier for any of us. I'd assume you the
same to ask for help because of just our you know,
(22:15):
how old are are all the same? Nine six and
almost two?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh, so you guys also have littles. Yeah, you're also
so in.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The Yeah, and it's all balancing the thing where it's like,
you know, they they moved a production, so I just
shot something and I'm like, I can't miss the first
day and so I you know, So it's and I
have missed certain things that break my heart, and so
it's trying to find the balance and also tell them,
like Mommy, you know, needs to be gone because this
is her dream, this is how she provides for everybody,
(22:43):
and the clothes that you'm all, I mean, all the things,
you know, but it's you know, it's trying to be
there but also live dreams too. But it's hard. And
I don't think I ever are going to feel like
we've nailed parenting. I think we should just release ourselves
from that immediately and then we can just enjoy the ride. Yeah,
And I was so overwhelmed the other day, so I'll
(23:04):
just calm myself out. I literally could not stand My
kids for some reason are just getting really picky with
her food and they're just complaining about it, and I
was like, just eat your food, like I just like
I couldn't handle it anymore. And I'm just like and
then I usually don't yell like that, but I stepped
away from the table and even Alan gave me a
look like whoa, And I'm like, I got I don't know.
I'm just like I'm overwhelmed. I'm over like I'm tired,
(23:26):
and like eat your salmon. Do you want me to
start showing you pictures of kids in Gaza? I'm getting there.
Do you guys to see the children commercials? I mean,
I think it does have an impact on our world, right, yeah,
these lavish little babies here, we are providing worlds where
they don't have to miss things that we missed. But
it's also like some of those things shape a human,
(23:46):
you know. So you're doing great, You're doing exceptionally.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The kids from what I'm realizing, I don't think the
kids will ever be grateful, Like it's very hard for
a five six, seven year old to understand what, you know,
I wasn't certainly, you know, And I remember my you know,
probably being shown the kids and you know, live Aid
and Ethiopia, and you know, I don't think that it's
(24:10):
very difficult for a child to connect that. But I
just am learning how to like keep my together, keep
my cool, that is for me the biggest challenge, and
then thinking of alternatives to distract them or to you
know that I don't. I don't think that I am
innately like I have friends who are just innately amazing parents. Actually,
(24:35):
Mollan Mallin said to me one day, I would be
if I was an actress, I would be like a
child psychologist. And I look at her and the advice
that she gives and just the way that she navigates parenting.
I don't have that intrinsically, and I kind of think
you're born with it or you're not. And I am
really really just learning on the go. But also like
(24:57):
I had my first child at forty, so even going
to my mom and my mom my parents were amazing parents,
I mean, really really great great parents. He doesn't remember.
So the concept of like aunties and grandma's and cousins
and nieces and nephews and all around in the quote
unquote village, like, I have none of that. My husband's
family they're all, you know, broad like, so I rely
(25:19):
on Instagram, you know, doctor Becky.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh oh, doctor Becky. Love Well that's a thing too, though,
like what you were saying, like if we had our
last one in our at forty so it's there's something
with the hormones too in that age, you know, It's
way different than when my babies that I had in thirties.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It just is, are you tired? Are you just tired.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All your time and exhausted by the end of the night.
I'm like depleted, like I'm walking through drying cement some days.
That is also I'm chasing around to almost two year old.
That's like insane, but that's also true us.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You both have two year olds.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, we didn't plan any you know, but yeah, no,
but you're doing great. You're doing great, and we're going
to pass that along to ourselves too. Jamie, you are awesome.
I am just rooting for a season two because it's
just so fun to watch y'all's characters. And yeah, if
(26:14):
you're ever in Nashville, come on, come on over.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Honestly, I swear to god, my husband said, because we're
always talking about what are other places rather than la
We have our favorite coffee shop, the Red Red Window
in Studio City, which we love so much. Love they
we got we got home on Friday, landed and went
right to our favorite coffee shop, of course, and they
moved to Nashville. Wow, And so guys said to me.
(26:38):
My husband was like, do we need to move to Nashville.
I mean, I thought that when we were shooting in Charlotte.
Do we need to move to Charlotte? Right?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, it's it's easy to fallow similar it is, it
really is. But we will welcome you, We really will.
And I'm gonna need you. Well, You're a California driver.
I'll take that any day. It's the rest of these
folks I can't handle. Jamie.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thank you, guys so much, so much.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Appreciate you girl. We love you.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Godh
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