November 4, 2024 • 33 mins
Sarah Drew is back with Jana and we’ll find out if they make as big of a splash as they did the last time she was on! We catch up with Sarah and discuss how the talk of Jana’s sex scene inspired a skit on SNL!
Jana and Sarah bond over the struggles of being a working mom, and how they handle the mom guilt when they have to leave their kids.
Plus, we find out why Sarah’s new series is the Christmas mystery you didn’t know you needed!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer did I'm Heart Radio podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so we're so different us three girls, which also
why I love US three. But we were just talking
about how I was saying, I haven't been back to
the guy Noo since having Roman, and from my scan
they saw that I've got a fibroid grown in there again.
And then like a few cists and so, and I
(00:28):
was saying, I guess now you have to sign on.
You have to go online and go through their portal,
and I'm just like, I just can't we just call?
And then Kat's like, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
If I have to call, I'm not doing it. I
wouldn't much rather do it online. If it involves calling
to make an appointment, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Meanwhile, I can't wait to catch up with a friend
desk Hey, becky Ye, so it's been a minute.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
How are you? I think it good? No, But I
could have seen Janet going either way.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm a caller.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I could definitely I could see either way though.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
For you, I know why you're a caller the same
reason I'm a caller.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I feel like it's not the same reason.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Oh you don't think what would you think is the
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Your reason is because you legitimately want to call and
talk to Becky and find out how her day is,
and just not. I mean I don't either, Like you
don't really want to call and talk to Becky and
find out about her day?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Do you do you think you'll get in faster?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Have you?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Well that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
For only this situation, because I do know Becky at
the front door, and she's.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Lovely and Becky and her kids matter.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I don't think that's her name.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Is her name?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't, Yeah, But like I always every time I
walked in, I was like, oh, ladies, there was always yeah, Christy,
you know, there was always Christy.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So it became you know this, they were there when
I came in crying. There's there was a bond formed.
And having said that, if we really need to get in,
she'd be like, let me slide. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean that's fair. I get that, yeah, because there's
appointments are just so long. But otherwise, no, it's not
that I just like to talk it out on the
phone scheduling wise, because sometimes they can maneuver things a
(02:10):
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, they can be a little bit more helpful.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, and yeah, I will sometimes call for that, and
I do call for that appointment. I'll give that, but
like other things nails and stuff like that, like if
I have to call you to book a nail appointment,
I will not go to you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh no, wow, I feel offended. And I'm not even
a nail tech.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I just I want to do it on the walk.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh you do it online? Oh yeah, I do that
now because I usually think of it after business.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I mean for me, it's easier, like with calendar and
all that versus being on the phone and like looking
at my I just feel like it's easier.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But also I don't want to talk to people.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I just go in and pray that Sylvia is available.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's how I go tracks.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
My person's never availab Like I have to book mine
out a little bit, but.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I do book online. But if Lily is not available,
I will call in the morning be like Lily, what
you're doing? I got to two o'clock because I care
about Lily. The other thing those going through a lot,
the guy for the kuind of cologist one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I also do not want to get to know the
front person because I will always reschedule at least once
I get it scheduled for a year, but my rule
is I can't go past a year and a half,
so that usually involves one or two reschedules because I
hate it that much.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, how my dentist has not broken up with me.
I have no idea, dude.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
When we first started working together, she would have a
dentist appoint I married you.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Literally that would show.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was like, hey, so are you ever actually going
to go to your dentist appointment?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is friend, this is this is this is my
really bad, toxic trait. I know I can't go on
this day. When I'm making the appointment.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I actually physically know it's our people. I can't show
up and I can't say I'm sorry I can't go.
Sounds great when I know I cannot make that time
nor date, but yet I make it and then I
don't call to change it because I feel bad.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's why I don't want to talk to people.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That's exactly a parking lot to be like you, guys.
I just was fraudulent at the desk in there. I
knew I was a good to make you guys. I
made an appointment for Preston. I literally said to the
girls at the front desk to get his blood work done.
I said, I'm going to get a text message the
minute you hit enter, and that pops into his number
and says he has an appointment tomorrow for blood work.
I'm going to get a text that says why am
I going to get blood work?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Clockwork? And then I had to call and cancel it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, but that's where you're in between us because I'm
the same. That's why I don't want to call and
talk to the person because I'm gonna feel really bad
calling her back when I have to reschedule it.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
If I'm on the phone with someone, they're like, how
about this, And I'll say no for the first one,
so it doesn't work. Once we get to the second one,
I feel so bad I have to say it. I'll
just say yes and then I'll reschedule it later. And
I get off phone on I'll just reschedule this later.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And then I forget to reschedule them. They're calling me
and I'm like, I know why they're calling me, So
then I decline it. And now it's been and now
I'm six months late for the dentist because I'm afraid
to go.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Back and this is where she is more like me.
She's so you're right there in the middle. I am Kristin,
would never know you would never actually book something that you.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I will rearrange that morning to make sure that the
third date they gave me just works because I just
don't want.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
To feel so about it, right right?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I really love love us too. Hey, speaking of scheduling,
can I toss something out as a topic for all
of us?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Please tell me about the holidays because it's already started
at our house.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Oh where will we go? And will they all?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No one wants to come see us?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
So well, you wait, that's not funny what happened yet?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I want to I want to go back to this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Nobody ever comes to see us for the holidays, invite anybody? Well,
it's always like an open door truth yours is, yeah,
you know. But and this year his his family in Scotland.
It's such a journey for them too, so they can't come,
which is such a bummer. But I get it, you know,
they don't. They were here last year, so I understand
that piece. But like my family, they're like, no, no
one ever comes. But it's fine, yes, is it i'd.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Wait, so you're but you're going home for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I am going home for Thanksgiving because I have the
kids this year. Yeah. Yeah, so when I have the kids,
we go home to Michigan. So but for Christmas, I mean,
it's just us.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What would happen if you did invite them, they wouldn't come, okay, which.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Is why she goes there because she knows.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
How are you fair?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because I even asked, because I was like, oh, Mom,
what are you doing for Christmas? And she was like, oh,
we're just going to go here there. Oh yeah, and
it's so accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
The Michigan accent.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's so good to me.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, fine, I sent out. I have a toxic trait,
which is sending out things and thinking I'll get a response.
I sent out like a two weeks ago, almost a
everyone on a group chat, Hey guys, just checking in.
I want to see if anybody had any plans already
for Thanksgiving, because you know, hotels are like astronomical. Now
I don't know if anybody's hotel lately, but it's like,
(06:44):
my lord, everything. So I'm going if we're going to
do this and we're going to go like into Indiana,
I would love to book it earlier than later, just
so that we can like save as much as we
can save or whatever. And I sent it out and
say I would will gladly host you there, because I
know it's overwhelming then to host extra people and you
know cute little houses and you know, yeah, yeah, it's
(07:05):
got quite a collector of things, and so I know
what it looks like to have little kids in that house,
and so I said, we can host. We're happy to
host at a restaurant for that portion of it to
make it easy on everyone there, or happy to host
you here, or we're happy to do nothing at all,
which is my secret pick and do our own thing.
And Preston writes back, he's like, across the room, so
(07:27):
he should write that. My mom writes back and she's like, okay,
I have this plan, but if it falls through, I'm good,
which is probably where I get it from, like the
wanting to like lock it in. Eight days later, I
do a well check on Preston's parents, like because then
it becomes something because I said, this feels rude to me.
Just send anything back. Yeah, I'm trying to just I'm
(07:48):
willing to host you here there in a.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Box with a fox like just yeah, rustrating, Yeah, and
still nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh, I still have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And it's see that's frustrating because you're you're you want
to at least planned, because you're really good at hosting
and planning and getting things situated. But last minute isn't
that a baby?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Like I'm like, if we're going to do a hotel.
His home hometown doesn't have like like hotel hotels. They
have like a fine hotel, but if you're going to
go for like four nights, you want to feel a
little cozier?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Would it be Do they just not like to make
decisions like would it be better? I'm just saying, would
it be better to say, how about this plan? This
is what we're going with. Does this work for you?
Like making that decision?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
They did, I've done it and there we're ten years in.
I just tried something.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I'm just thinking, like, I mean, if if I were
to get like three or four options, I'd be like,
I don't really care, can you choose? You know, because
I don't like that kind of stuff. I don't have
a preference usually, So it's kind of like I want
someone to make the decision for me.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I think now we're just going to make our
own plan.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, that's what I would do if I get it
out and I got nothing. Oh, I'm making my own plan.
Don't expect me at this point. I just had I
get a very sad husband. He loves to be with
his family on holidays, and that is something we don't
like align with. Yeah, I am so good with the
unit being.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The yeah that yes, yeah, we don't have the kids
Christmas morning, Christmas Eve, so that's it's going to be
a sad one. But at the same time, I'm almost
okay with just us three and then welcoming yeah, you know,
the kiddo's and this year two.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But he gets really sad if if it's like Thanksgiving
and I'm pumped because the tablescape is cute and it's
just the five of us, He'll be sad if his
parents aren't there, and so I'm trying to that and
I don't want to put his mom in a position
where she can't have all of her boys. And two
of her boys are there and one boy is here,
so I'm like, let's I can bring it, let's bring
him there. Yeah, still nothing, So I just wondered where
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y'all's did.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Does Alan get sad, Like, is he's sad his family.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Won't Yeah, I think he's. I think he's bummed and
I'm too because we don't get to see them that
often and we can't fly there because of we're doing
the green card stuff right now. He has to be
in the country for a certain amount of days, so,
you know, because we probably would have gone there knowing
that we didn't have the kids on the front end.
Oh right right, but we just we can't go anywhere,
(10:00):
so kind of landlocked, which is a bummer.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I actually really love Allen's family and I miss them.
We had this like kind of real world moment when
we were all together in Scotland. Yeah, and now I'm like,
I kind of want to get the house back together.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We can Saturday.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I know, she's like, are you coming in for this?
And I'm like, I'm not. But I love that y'
all know each other because we were roommates.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
What are you guys doing or which?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
For Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We'll just well for everything, we'll just basically go because
both of our families are here.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, so we'll just go to each house.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think Thanksgiving. I think we're just going to go
to my in loss and my parents may come.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I cannot believe it's the holidays coming up. I was
starting the Christmas shopping and I'm just like, how are
we doing this? This is so crazy to me. Roman
has four teeth coming in, Like, what has happened? I know,
did you see him walk? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I saw walk last time. But he's like pulling him.
I know he's without using assistant.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh yeah, he's like running basically now, I love him.
He's kicking soccer balls, sodas coming. I know, I know
what it's crazy. I know he's got four on the
top coming in. This guy's a little Botto two. I'm like,
this is just nuts. But things are changing, just like
the Christmas shows are changing. They're getting a murdery what
(11:15):
what are we calling it? A murder?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Mistletoe murders?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Mistletoe murders. They're taking Holy Ghost to a whole other level.
And I'm not here for hey you and we're going
to have our girl, Sarah Drew. It's been a year
since she's been on, so let's take a break and
then welcome her back onto Windown.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Hi, hikay ladies and beautiful ladies, it's going to see
you again.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I love you always. Just I'm like, oh, Sarah Drew
just coming coming on.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I know, since we did the podcast, we've like messaged
each other and been like you got this mama, and
and so.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm also like, am I not in your movie?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Wasn't my decisions?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I actually didn't get to cast it.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I did, I was not. I was not part of
the casting. Weird.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Even I'm always like, yeah, we're always like dming back
and forth now and then like the last one, I
was like, all right, what the fuck? I was like,
why was I not in this one? And I'm like
it's signs. Sign's fine. I still love you.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Just them each other recipes until you're not. I'm not excited.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I feel like we're just homies because you're back with us, yay,
and what feels like only yesterday. It was over a
year ago since you were on wind Down.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I know where we like caused all the drama, so.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Much drama, so much sexy drama snl all because of you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean I thought for sure I was like done
for you know, like I thought lifetime would never hire
me again.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So that was what are you talking about? It was
like them.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Texted you or like a dmy s freaking out. My god,
I was like, should we take this out? You know, no,
it's just got picked up. But you know, anything that
comes up headlining, I freak out.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But when you've made SNL, you've made it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But now I mean I want to go to the other,
to the one you're doing now. But then you wrote
another steamy one for lifetime that comes out a carpenter
Christmas or something.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Carveer Christmas romance.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know what a lot to do with wood,
Sarah Drew, what do you.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Want to do?
Speaker 6 (13:28):
There's some hard wood, some.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Screwing, if you will, But the carpenter there's.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
One that needs to be sanded and chiseled.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
How steamy is this one? How? How is it compared
to the Chris Country christ whatever that whatever? What it
was like, I've been like in the Christmas and lousy
and it's like they're all the romance Christmas one.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, No, I mean it has a bit more steam
actually this time around. Really yeah, I mean give the
audience what they want, right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So, like, describe how much more steam.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, I can't give it all the way. There's much more.
There's more shirtless. There's an under the sheets scene, which
is my favorite scene of the of the entire movie.
It's so like, it's like Romeo and Juliette the Lark,
you know, the boss lerm and Romeo and Juliet kind
of that was the inspiration for it. It's really it's
(14:30):
really tender, but it's also really sexy. So yeah, I
mean there's just there's a lot more making out.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's yeah, well, since you're already not gravitating towards the
Christ and Christmas, I have a question about the series.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
What I believe. So that's the funny thing about all
of it. But I also like like romance too.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
You also like I also really like Murder.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's where Christen's like, we need to talk talk to
her because what did you say? I was like, how
murder in Christmas?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I was like, how are we marrying murdering Christmas? I
feel very concerned and nervous, but I trust you, so
I know it must be good.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
It's so good, you guys. I'm so proud of it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We just did a premiere of it or a screening
a press screening last night, and it was really fun
watching it with an audience. It's a really interesting mix
of two different genres that are super beloved. It kind
of has you feel a little murder, she wrote, and
Verona ka Mars. But the backdrop is this sweet, little
(15:35):
cozy town and my character owns a Christmas shop, so
it's all happening at Christmas time. But there there's there
are murders to be solved, and there's romance, and there's comedy,
and it's a really it's really interesting tonally because it
kind of feels like it's like Christmas Noir.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
How many episodes or yeah, because there's it's.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Six episodes in season one, and every two episodes we
solve a murder, so there's a nice cliffhanger at the
end of every episode.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
And then there's so there's.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The there are three over the course of six episodes,
there are three individual murders that we're solving, and then
the through line is sort of the bigger mystery, which
is who is this person? Who is Emily Lane, what's
her backstory, what's she running from? What's she running to?
Why does this Christmas shop owner have these ridiculously crazy
(16:31):
skills that she should not possess. Where did they come from?
What is she telling the truth?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Is she lying? So there's just a lot of really.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Fun intrigue throughout the whole thing, But you still get
all the cozy feelings because it's like a really wonderful,
colorful cast of characters, and it's written really well, it's
really clever.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Where did you guys film it at Toronto? Okay? Am
I making this up? That the kids stayed in Los Angeles? Right? Yes,
seest where we were like, you were having a hard
time because it was a it was a big chunk.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
This year's been crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
My husband was gone teaching at Dartmouth for ten weeks
in the winter, and then I was gone shooting for
ten weeks in the summer, and he's gone again teaching
for ten weeks in the in this fall. So it's
been a really kind of wild roller coaster trying to
figure out how to stay connected. But during the summer,
(17:26):
the kids it was their summer break, so they came
out for like a week and a half or two
and a half weeks or somewhere around there. They get
they get they're over it after about a week and
a half because they don't see me unless they're visiting set.
But I'm working and now Micah and Hannah are very
interested in this industry. Especially Mike is a little filmmaker.
(17:48):
He makes short films, so he was soaking up all
he was like chatting and chatting up the directors and
talking to VFX guys and like hanging out watching how
they're setting up the shop. So he loved all of it,
and he would have stayed on set probably every day,
but they needed to get back for their acting camp
that they're obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh yeah, I saw that. That was cute. Yeah, we
were just talking offline earlier because I had just done
like the Lifetime movie and then I got offered a
(18:30):
Christmas Lifetime one. But it would I would have only
had a two week break, yeah, and then I would
have been home, and then I had I was filming
something else later that and I'm like, I look back
and I go, why didn't I do that? But then
I realized that the mom guilt was if obviously I
didn't have the kids, I would have gone and I
would have filmed, But then I didn't want to be away,
and so it's having that kind of push and pull
where now I'm like, why didn't I just do it?
(18:52):
Like the kids would have been fine. I would have,
you know, been gone for a month, but everyone would
have survived. But there's this I don't know what it is,
and maybe I can. I feel like i'd manage it well,
but when I see you, I'm like, well, she went
off and did it and the kids survived and everyone
was fine. But it's still in that moment. It's hard.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Oh, it's so hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's so hard every time, every time I say goodbye,
it's hard every time.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Re Entry is really hard.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
That's almost harder actually coming back in after I've been
gone for a long time.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
And my husband has established.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like really good boundaries with the kids so that they
are helping because he's when he's gone, my parents live
with me, so I get so much help because I'm
in and out of town all the time. But when
I'm gone, it's really Peter on his own with the kids.
So when I'm gone, they have like a schedule of
(19:45):
which nights a week they can watch something. They know
exactly what day they're doing their laundry and folding their laundry,
they have to help make dinner, they have to help
make their lunches, like, they have so many tasks because
he can't physically get it all done himself. So then
I come in and I want to do all the
stuff because I haven't been momming in that way, and
(20:07):
I want to.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Like, I'll do your laundry. I want to phod, and
he's like, no, that's not helpful.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's actually makes it more difficult for me the next
time you go. So we have so I have to
sort of re enter into a new energy that they've
created in my absence. So there's always this sort of
re entries I think harder.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I definitely feel that too, because when my kids are
at my exes, like they're not used to being there
so much, and then like when they're away from Alan
to like, the kids act different when they come back
even around to like to Alan, and so it's such
a I'm like, wow, I see that even on the
weekends when they come back, there's like this distance for
for a few days and then it's like all right,
we're back into it. But for longer periods it is like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It takes a couple of days to kind of go, okay,
here's our rhythm, here's our routine. Sometimes I get a
little punished by my kids for having been gone. There's
just a little en energy of I really missed you
and I don't like that you leave.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But I feel very, very strongly whenever I leave.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
For a job, I say to the kids, I hate
that my work brings me away from you and creates
that distance. But I love what I do so much,
and I feel like I'm living into my purpose when
I get to do this work and I'm excited. I
love what I do. I'm excited to go do this thing.
(21:31):
I will miss you so much, and also I'm excited
to do this work as opposed to leaving the house
and just being like, oh, I know, it's the worst.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I hate it. I can't believe I have to go.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because if I leave to go shoot a movie with
that energy, then they're like.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, why would you go? Then? What about this negative?
Why would you go?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know? And it's funny because I've heard it reflected back.
My son is making movies now, and he made this.
He's incredible. He made this in these incredible short films.
He builds his own special effects, and he spends hours
and hours and hours teaching himself through YouTube tutorials and whatever.
And I was telling him over the phone, I'm just
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so proud of you and proud of your dedication and
your focus and like really crafting all this stuff. And
he says back to me, well, you know, mom, I
love what I do.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, Like, and to be able to show my daughter that, like,
my life is bigger than just being at home, and
I have this world where I get to use the
gifts that I believe have been given to me out
in the world, Like.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
It's I think it's great for her to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, that's such a good point because even when I
travel a little bit for work, when I kind of
get mom guilt, I've done the opposite. And that's such
a good point. I would not have thought about, like
I feel like if I'm like, oh, I don't really
feel like going, I wish I was here with you,
I'm excited or not excited, then that I haven't thought
about that how that can make them be like, then
why are you choosing to go if you're not excited
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like that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like you think that it's saying it's so awful that
I'm going is gonna make them feel better, but in fact,
it actually makes them feel worse because then it's like,
well that doesn't compute, right.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And my kids are getting old enough to bust my
husband now because he travels a ton and his re entry.
It's interesting to hear re entry stories because we go
through it like every week. We're about to go through
it again on Friday, and then we'll go through it
again on Sunday, because it's like these little pockets. Yeah,
but it's so funny because he'll be like, yeah, I
don't want to go, it's not gonna be fun, and
then we FaceTime and he's like going down like an
ice loge or something, and they're like that, so it
(23:40):
seems fun and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna need him
to get pretty honest here because the truth my clients
are getting pretty smart about what you're up.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
To, yeah, and what you're teaching your kids, like that's
so important, especially the girls, like you said, like to
show them like we love our job, we love being
a mother, but we also love our job and that's
so important, so true, thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, my son also is asks me like Hey, Mom,
how's your day? What did you get to shoot today?
What was fun about it? What scene made you feel
really alive? Like? Those are the questions he asks me
when we get a chance to talk. And then I
could be I like a gush about like, oh, I
had so much fun. Oh my gosh, there's a really
cool shot. And I sent him behind the scenes videos,
(24:24):
like especially if for doing VFX stuff, I'll like record myself,
I'll talk to the VFX guy and then I'll so
just to include him while because he's so interested in
it while I'm away just giving that enthusiasm for life
in all the different shapes, in all the different places
it takes us. I think it's just there's there's nothing
bad about it. It only is going to benefit them.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It is out right now.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yes, And I'm trusting you because I really love you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I'm telling you you're gonna love this show.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I have a lot of disconnecting my body about the
show now.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I think it's going to be great.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Oh it's right up, my Alex.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, it's a really fun twist on both of the
genres and it's and it works, It really works. I
can't speak highly enough about it all of the cast
is amazing, The writing is amazing. The romance is so
like it's drawn out and like a really slow burn,
but it's really beautiful and it's deep and grounded, and
(25:20):
and then all the like badassory of the character and
her backstory is just super fun.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
You'll love it. You're you'll love it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And then the hope is the next season you start
filming again, next season.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Hopefully, Yeah, that would be. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see
how it does, but we I hope for many more seasons.
We leave season one on a pretty big cliffhanger that's
gonna make you go.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
What more.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Favorite and what what are you writing next? Like? What
is what are you excited about that you're working on
right now in the writing space.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
So I have a true story.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's been an ongoing process because it's still like a
spec script. I have pretty sirs, but not we don't
have like a studio or a network or anything. So
it's really been I'm trying to find the space to
do it, and I'm like, it's not gonna happen until
mid November that I can get back to it. But
it's a really incredible true story about a woman who
(26:16):
went through a pretty epic trauma when she was a kid,
and twenty years later it kind of derailed her life.
And then twenty years later there's a catalyst that makes
her go back to the hometown and try to confront
what happened. And it's about her healing kind of with
her younger self. And yeah, it's and it's it's a
(26:38):
really beautiful story. It's a beautiful story about forgiveness and
healing and learning to love yourself and shame.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It's about shame.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I got to tell you. That feels a little more
at my alley. But I'm still in for all the
things you do, bab It's Hallmark. It's not like we're
asking to watch that, you know what.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, Well, this is not Hallmark. This would never
be on Hallmark. This thing I'm writing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
No, no, but I'm saying that the other one is yes, yeah, yeah,
I'm like, that's that's Hallmark. I was like, that's you know, yeah,
that's You're You're good, very good, Sarah. Just so we're clear,
I'm never good.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And the one that watches Epray Love over and over
again because I'm like, oh that feels cozy.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I'll just intettle right here.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
I just want to feel cozy.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, it feels fair. So you're Emily Lane in the
series that's out now, this murder Christmas Murders. Thank you.
I keep doing it under missiletoe.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's a Christmas tree.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I really enjoy that immensely. That appeals to me.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So you're Emily Lane and it she's the main character,
she's the shop owner. Yeah, okay, I'm going to ask
the question that Jane always asks him, stealing her question,
but being friends with an actress, I've now learned that
this matters. And so I want to know what parts
of you and Emily match. And that's not me question,
that's actually what Jane would ask if I gave her
the minute to do it.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I think fundamentally she is.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
A bigger over arching story is Emily's desire to fight mind.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Home.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's a very big kind of through line for her,
and it comes out in lots of different ways. And
I think like a home is everything to me as well.
And I go into all these different places and when
I stay home, I say I mean my family, my kids,
(28:23):
my home, my house, and also my friends, like my
chosen home, the place where you can be actually exactly
who you are, and there's there's no shame and there's
no judgment and you can let everything out. And I
think she is in pursuit of that in a way
that I also am in my life. She's a really
(28:45):
really good puzzler and sluthor and I am not.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
So that's very very different. But in that way, she's
actually a lot like my mom.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
My mom is like a huge puzzler, and she's a
scientist and she like her brain works in that way,
I and I Micah wanted to do a murder mystery
party for his birthday this year, and I did all
the costumes obviously pirate murder mystery party.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Half of the guests were adults.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
This is this is my son, and everybody fully committed.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
But I was like, I just want to host. I
just want to make sure everybody's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't want to play a role. I don't want
to figure out who killed the person. So she's she's
very different. I think she's also really empathetic, and I'm
I'm I'm an EmPATH as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
My love, those are beautiful things to have in common
with her. Yeah, we did a murder mystery here for
Jani's fortieth and I saw pictures.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Y'all looked amazing.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
We were so confused.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, no one won, did they know?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
No one solve it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I don't think anyone solved it. I think that group did,
did they?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I think it was tricky because there was a couple
of the guy like the people that led it also
played double characters, but in our brains they played triple
characters because we just met them, so we were going used
what was super confusing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I find the whole thing super confusing. But Micah
invited his like three best friends who are all theater kids,
with their families who are all theater people, and so
everybody fully like showed up in character and break character
(30:23):
and were committed to discovering the truth, playing scenes in
various corners of the house.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
That's fantastic, that's amazing. We had a lot of fun
doing it. We just all got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It was fun to actually figured it out on our end.
He was he was the he was the one that
figured it out.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It was fun to see the people that actually like
went into acting mode, which was not you.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, I shy away from it, like I'm like, wait,
you got to give.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Me a script, give me a script.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm just you really didn't, but you were so cute. No,
just something like I'd rather just like watch everybody have fun.
Like that's my thing, you know, because whenever we go anywhere,
you know, Jolie, butig want to show ride this or
do that. I'm like, I just want to see everybody
have fun, Like everyone go, I'll take the photos and
I'll you know, I just I just wanted to be
a part of it.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I love. That's very much my vibe too, That's I
love that part.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, I think everybody have a good time. But Janna
is so sleuthy that I thought for sure she would
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, No, are you a sloop? I don't think so,
But who knows. But you said earlier that when we've
talked about this too, you're you're really, you know, big
on your faith and you're public about that. Where in
your life does your faith get tested the most?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think that the It's the biggest thing that's sort
of been with me since I started in this career,
which is allowing the industry and people's opinion of me
or how fancy or famous I am to begin to
define me and I to fy my worth. And I
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think that's the hardest thing, to be able to fully
live into the truth and reality that I am fundamentally
beloved and belong and and have. My identity is rooted
in being a child of God and being a mother,
in being a wife, and being a friend.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Daughter and sister.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I my battle and the way that my faith
is tested is just in the remembering, the remembering of
who I am and who what my identity is and
what it's grounded in. That's I think the hardest thing,
and I struggle with it all the time. And I
have times where I'm like, I just feel so loved
and known and seen and it's wonderful.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
And then I have other times where I'm like, ah.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I feel so useless and worthless and nobody likes me,
and and I forget it's it's them, it's the Remember
I love.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That, Sarah. I always thank you for coming on, always
bringing your truth. And and we're so excited. I am.
I am very excited to watch this because yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm cautiously it'll be the first one.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And you're gonna love it too.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
You're going to watch these series on a Hallmark Plus.
Sarah Drew, you're the best. Thank you friend, thank you.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Good to see so good to see you guys.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Bye, talk too soon.
Wind down with Janet Kramer did I'm Heart Radio podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so we're so different us three girls, which also
why I love US three. But we were just talking
about how I was saying, I haven't been back to
the guy Noo since having Roman, and from my scan
they saw that I've got a fibroid grown in there again.
And then like a few cists and so, and I
(00:28):
was saying, I guess now you have to sign on.
You have to go online and go through their portal,
and I'm just like, I just can't we just call?
And then Kat's like, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
If I have to call, I'm not doing it. I
wouldn't much rather do it online. If it involves calling
to make an appointment, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Meanwhile, I can't wait to catch up with a friend
desk Hey, becky Ye, so it's been a minute.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
How are you? I think it good? No, But I
could have seen Janet going either way.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm a caller.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I could definitely I could see either way though.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
For you, I know why you're a caller the same
reason I'm a caller.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I feel like it's not the same reason.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Oh you don't think what would you think is the
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Your reason is because you legitimately want to call and
talk to Becky and find out how her day is,
and just not. I mean I don't either, Like you
don't really want to call and talk to Becky and
find out about her day?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Do you do you think you'll get in faster?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Have you?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Well that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
For only this situation, because I do know Becky at
the front door, and she's.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Lovely and Becky and her kids matter.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I don't think that's her name.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Is her name?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't, Yeah, But like I always every time I
walked in, I was like, oh, ladies, there was always yeah, Christy,
you know, there was always Christy.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I love her.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So it became you know this, they were there when
I came in crying. There's there was a bond formed.
And having said that, if we really need to get in,
she'd be like, let me slide. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean that's fair. I get that, yeah, because there's
appointments are just so long. But otherwise, no, it's not
that I just like to talk it out on the
phone scheduling wise, because sometimes they can maneuver things a
(02:10):
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, they can be a little bit more helpful.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, and yeah, I will sometimes call for that, and
I do call for that appointment. I'll give that, but
like other things nails and stuff like that, like if
I have to call you to book a nail appointment,
I will not go to you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh no, wow, I feel offended. And I'm not even
a nail tech.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I just I want to do it on the walk.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh you do it online? Oh yeah, I do that
now because I usually think of it after business.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I mean for me, it's easier, like with calendar and
all that versus being on the phone and like looking
at my I just feel like it's easier.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But also I don't want to talk to people.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I just go in and pray that Sylvia is available.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's how I go tracks.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
My person's never availab Like I have to book mine
out a little bit, but.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I do book online. But if Lily is not available,
I will call in the morning be like Lily, what
you're doing? I got to two o'clock because I care
about Lily. The other thing those going through a lot,
the guy for the kuind of cologist one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I also do not want to get to know the
front person because I will always reschedule at least once
I get it scheduled for a year, but my rule
is I can't go past a year and a half,
so that usually involves one or two reschedules because I
hate it that much.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, how my dentist has not broken up with me.
I have no idea, dude.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
When we first started working together, she would have a
dentist appoint I married you.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Literally that would show.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was like, hey, so are you ever actually going
to go to your dentist appointment?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is friend, this is this is this is my
really bad, toxic trait. I know I can't go on
this day. When I'm making the appointment.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I actually physically know it's our people. I can't show
up and I can't say I'm sorry I can't go.
Sounds great when I know I cannot make that time
nor date, but yet I make it and then I
don't call to change it because I feel bad.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's why I don't want to talk to people.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That's exactly a parking lot to be like you, guys.
I just was fraudulent at the desk in there. I
knew I was a good to make you guys. I
made an appointment for Preston. I literally said to the
girls at the front desk to get his blood work done.
I said, I'm going to get a text message the
minute you hit enter, and that pops into his number
and says he has an appointment tomorrow for blood work.
I'm going to get a text that says why am
I going to get blood work?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Clockwork? And then I had to call and cancel it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, but that's where you're in between us because I'm
the same. That's why I don't want to call and
talk to the person because I'm gonna feel really bad
calling her back when I have to reschedule it.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
If I'm on the phone with someone, they're like, how
about this, And I'll say no for the first one,
so it doesn't work. Once we get to the second one,
I feel so bad I have to say it. I'll
just say yes and then I'll reschedule it later. And
I get off phone on I'll just reschedule this later.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And then I forget to reschedule them. They're calling me
and I'm like, I know why they're calling me, So
then I decline it. And now it's been and now
I'm six months late for the dentist because I'm afraid
to go.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Back and this is where she is more like me.
She's so you're right there in the middle. I am Kristin,
would never know you would never actually book something that you.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I will rearrange that morning to make sure that the
third date they gave me just works because I just
don't want.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
To feel so about it, right right?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I really love love us too. Hey, speaking of scheduling,
can I toss something out as a topic for all
of us?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Please tell me about the holidays because it's already started
at our house.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Oh where will we go? And will they all?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No one wants to come see us?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
So well, you wait, that's not funny what happened yet?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I want to I want to go back to this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Nobody ever comes to see us for the holidays, invite anybody? Well,
it's always like an open door truth yours is, yeah,
you know. But and this year his his family in Scotland.
It's such a journey for them too, so they can't come,
which is such a bummer. But I get it, you know,
they don't. They were here last year, so I understand
that piece. But like my family, they're like, no, no
one ever comes. But it's fine, yes, is it i'd.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Wait, so you're but you're going home for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I am going home for Thanksgiving because I have the
kids this year. Yeah. Yeah, so when I have the kids,
we go home to Michigan. So but for Christmas, I mean,
it's just us.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What would happen if you did invite them, they wouldn't come, okay, which.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Is why she goes there because she knows.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
How are you fair?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because I even asked, because I was like, oh, Mom,
what are you doing for Christmas? And she was like, oh,
we're just going to go here there. Oh yeah, and
it's so accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
The Michigan accent.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's so good to me.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, fine, I sent out. I have a toxic trait,
which is sending out things and thinking I'll get a response.
I sent out like a two weeks ago, almost a
everyone on a group chat, Hey guys, just checking in.
I want to see if anybody had any plans already
for Thanksgiving, because you know, hotels are like astronomical. Now
I don't know if anybody's hotel lately, but it's like,
(06:44):
my lord, everything. So I'm going if we're going to
do this and we're going to go like into Indiana,
I would love to book it earlier than later, just
so that we can like save as much as we
can save or whatever. And I sent it out and
say I would will gladly host you there, because I
know it's overwhelming then to host extra people and you
know cute little houses and you know, yeah, yeah, it's
(07:05):
got quite a collector of things, and so I know
what it looks like to have little kids in that house,
and so I said, we can host. We're happy to
host at a restaurant for that portion of it to
make it easy on everyone there, or happy to host
you here, or we're happy to do nothing at all,
which is my secret pick and do our own thing.
And Preston writes back, he's like, across the room, so
(07:27):
he should write that. My mom writes back and she's like, okay,
I have this plan, but if it falls through, I'm good,
which is probably where I get it from, like the
wanting to like lock it in. Eight days later, I
do a well check on Preston's parents, like because then
it becomes something because I said, this feels rude to me.
Just send anything back. Yeah, I'm trying to just I'm
(07:48):
willing to host you here there in a.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Box with a fox like just yeah, rustrating, Yeah, and
still nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh, I still have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And it's see that's frustrating because you're you're you want
to at least planned, because you're really good at hosting
and planning and getting things situated. But last minute isn't
that a baby?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Like I'm like, if we're going to do a hotel.
His home hometown doesn't have like like hotel hotels. They
have like a fine hotel, but if you're going to
go for like four nights, you want to feel a
little cozier?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Would it be Do they just not like to make
decisions like would it be better? I'm just saying, would
it be better to say, how about this plan? This
is what we're going with. Does this work for you?
Like making that decision?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
They did, I've done it and there we're ten years in.
I just tried something.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I'm just thinking, like, I mean, if if I were
to get like three or four options, I'd be like,
I don't really care, can you choose? You know, because
I don't like that kind of stuff. I don't have
a preference usually, So it's kind of like I want
someone to make the decision for me.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I think now we're just going to make our
own plan.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, that's what I would do if I get it
out and I got nothing. Oh, I'm making my own plan.
Don't expect me at this point. I just had I
get a very sad husband. He loves to be with
his family on holidays, and that is something we don't
like align with. Yeah, I am so good with the
unit being.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The yeah that yes, yeah, we don't have the kids
Christmas morning, Christmas Eve, so that's it's going to be
a sad one. But at the same time, I'm almost
okay with just us three and then welcoming yeah, you know,
the kiddo's and this year two.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But he gets really sad if if it's like Thanksgiving
and I'm pumped because the tablescape is cute and it's
just the five of us, He'll be sad if his
parents aren't there, and so I'm trying to that and
I don't want to put his mom in a position
where she can't have all of her boys. And two
of her boys are there and one boy is here,
so I'm like, let's I can bring it, let's bring
him there. Yeah, still nothing, So I just wondered where
(09:35):
y'all's did.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Does Alan get sad, Like, is he's sad his family.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Won't Yeah, I think he's. I think he's bummed and
I'm too because we don't get to see them that
often and we can't fly there because of we're doing
the green card stuff right now. He has to be
in the country for a certain amount of days, so,
you know, because we probably would have gone there knowing
that we didn't have the kids on the front end.
Oh right right, but we just we can't go anywhere,
(10:00):
so kind of landlocked, which is a bummer.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I actually really love Allen's family and I miss them.
We had this like kind of real world moment when
we were all together in Scotland. Yeah, and now I'm like,
I kind of want to get the house back together.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We can Saturday.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I know, she's like, are you coming in for this?
And I'm like, I'm not. But I love that y'
all know each other because we were roommates.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
What are you guys doing or which?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
For Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We'll just well for everything, we'll just basically go because
both of our families are here.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, so we'll just go to each house.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Basically.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think Thanksgiving. I think we're just going to go
to my in loss and my parents may come.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I cannot believe it's the holidays coming up. I was
starting the Christmas shopping and I'm just like, how are
we doing this? This is so crazy to me. Roman
has four teeth coming in, Like, what has happened? I know,
did you see him walk? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I saw walk last time. But he's like pulling him.
I know he's without using assistant.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh yeah, he's like running basically now, I love him.
He's kicking soccer balls, sodas coming. I know, I know
what it's crazy. I know he's got four on the
top coming in. This guy's a little Botto two. I'm like,
this is just nuts. But things are changing, just like
the Christmas shows are changing. They're getting a murdery what
(11:15):
what are we calling it? A murder?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Mistletoe murders?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Mistletoe murders. They're taking Holy Ghost to a whole other level.
And I'm not here for hey you and we're going
to have our girl, Sarah Drew. It's been a year
since she's been on, so let's take a break and
then welcome her back onto Windown.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Hi, hikay ladies and beautiful ladies, it's going to see
you again.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I love you always. Just I'm like, oh, Sarah Drew
just coming coming on.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I know, since we did the podcast, we've like messaged
each other and been like you got this mama, and
and so.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm also like, am I not in your movie?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Wasn't my decisions?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I actually didn't get to cast it.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I did, I was not. I was not part of
the casting. Weird.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Even I'm always like, yeah, we're always like dming back
and forth now and then like the last one, I
was like, all right, what the fuck? I was like,
why was I not in this one? And I'm like
it's signs. Sign's fine. I still love you.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Just them each other recipes until you're not. I'm not excited.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I feel like we're just homies because you're back with us, yay,
and what feels like only yesterday. It was over a
year ago since you were on wind Down.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I know where we like caused all the drama, so.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Much drama, so much sexy drama snl all because of you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean I thought for sure I was like done
for you know, like I thought lifetime would never hire
me again.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So that was what are you talking about? It was
like them.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Texted you or like a dmy s freaking out. My god,
I was like, should we take this out? You know, no,
it's just got picked up. But you know, anything that
comes up headlining, I freak out.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But when you've made SNL, you've made it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But now I mean I want to go to the other,
to the one you're doing now. But then you wrote
another steamy one for lifetime that comes out a carpenter
Christmas or something.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Carveer Christmas romance.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know what a lot to do with wood,
Sarah Drew, what do you.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Want to do?
Speaker 6 (13:28):
There's some hard wood, some.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Screwing, if you will, But the carpenter there's.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
One that needs to be sanded and chiseled.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
How steamy is this one? How? How is it compared
to the Chris Country christ whatever that whatever? What it
was like, I've been like in the Christmas and lousy
and it's like they're all the romance Christmas one.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, No, I mean it has a bit more steam
actually this time around. Really yeah, I mean give the
audience what they want, right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So, like, describe how much more steam.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, I can't give it all the way. There's much more.
There's more shirtless. There's an under the sheets scene, which
is my favorite scene of the of the entire movie.
It's so like, it's like Romeo and Juliette the Lark,
you know, the boss lerm and Romeo and Juliet kind
of that was the inspiration for it. It's really it's
(14:30):
really tender, but it's also really sexy. So yeah, I
mean there's just there's a lot more making out.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's yeah, well, since you're already not gravitating towards the
Christ and Christmas, I have a question about the series.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
What I believe. So that's the funny thing about all
of it. But I also like like romance too.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
You also like I also really like Murder.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's where Christen's like, we need to talk talk to
her because what did you say? I was like, how
murder in Christmas?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I was like, how are we marrying murdering Christmas? I
feel very concerned and nervous, but I trust you, so
I know it must be good.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
It's so good, you guys. I'm so proud of it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We just did a premiere of it or a screening
a press screening last night, and it was really fun
watching it with an audience. It's a really interesting mix
of two different genres that are super beloved. It kind
of has you feel a little murder, she wrote, and
Verona ka Mars. But the backdrop is this sweet, little
(15:35):
cozy town and my character owns a Christmas shop, so
it's all happening at Christmas time. But there there's there
are murders to be solved, and there's romance, and there's comedy,
and it's a really it's really interesting tonally because it
kind of feels like it's like Christmas Noir.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
How many episodes or yeah, because there's it's.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Six episodes in season one, and every two episodes we
solve a murder, so there's a nice cliffhanger at the
end of every episode.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
And then there's so there's.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The there are three over the course of six episodes,
there are three individual murders that we're solving, and then
the through line is sort of the bigger mystery, which
is who is this person? Who is Emily Lane, what's
her backstory, what's she running from? What's she running to?
Why does this Christmas shop owner have these ridiculously crazy
(16:31):
skills that she should not possess. Where did they come from?
What is she telling the truth?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Is she lying? So there's just a lot of really.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Fun intrigue throughout the whole thing, But you still get
all the cozy feelings because it's like a really wonderful,
colorful cast of characters, and it's written really well, it's
really clever.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Where did you guys film it at Toronto? Okay? Am
I making this up? That the kids stayed in Los Angeles? Right? Yes,
seest where we were like, you were having a hard
time because it was a it was a big chunk.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
This year's been crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
My husband was gone teaching at Dartmouth for ten weeks
in the winter, and then I was gone shooting for
ten weeks in the summer, and he's gone again teaching
for ten weeks in the in this fall. So it's
been a really kind of wild roller coaster trying to
figure out how to stay connected. But during the summer,
(17:26):
the kids it was their summer break, so they came
out for like a week and a half or two
and a half weeks or somewhere around there. They get
they get they're over it after about a week and
a half because they don't see me unless they're visiting set.
But I'm working and now Micah and Hannah are very
interested in this industry. Especially Mike is a little filmmaker.
(17:48):
He makes short films, so he was soaking up all
he was like chatting and chatting up the directors and
talking to VFX guys and like hanging out watching how
they're setting up the shop. So he loved all of it,
and he would have stayed on set probably every day,
but they needed to get back for their acting camp
that they're obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh yeah, I saw that. That was cute. Yeah, we
were just talking offline earlier because I had just done
like the Lifetime movie and then I got offered a
(18:30):
Christmas Lifetime one. But it would I would have only
had a two week break, yeah, and then I would
have been home, and then I had I was filming
something else later that and I'm like, I look back
and I go, why didn't I do that? But then
I realized that the mom guilt was if obviously I
didn't have the kids, I would have gone and I
would have filmed, But then I didn't want to be away,
and so it's having that kind of push and pull
where now I'm like, why didn't I just do it?
(18:52):
Like the kids would have been fine. I would have,
you know, been gone for a month, but everyone would
have survived. But there's this I don't know what it is,
and maybe I can. I feel like i'd manage it well,
but when I see you, I'm like, well, she went
off and did it and the kids survived and everyone
was fine. But it's still in that moment. It's hard.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Oh, it's so hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's so hard every time, every time I say goodbye,
it's hard every time.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Re Entry is really hard.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
That's almost harder actually coming back in after I've been
gone for a long time.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
And my husband has established.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like really good boundaries with the kids so that they
are helping because he's when he's gone, my parents live
with me, so I get so much help because I'm
in and out of town all the time. But when
I'm gone, it's really Peter on his own with the kids.
So when I'm gone, they have like a schedule of
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which nights a week they can watch something. They know
exactly what day they're doing their laundry and folding their laundry,
they have to help make dinner, they have to help
make their lunches, like, they have so many tasks because
he can't physically get it all done himself. So then
I come in and I want to do all the
stuff because I haven't been momming in that way, and
(20:07):
I want to.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Like, I'll do your laundry. I want to phod, and
he's like, no, that's not helpful.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's actually makes it more difficult for me the next
time you go. So we have so I have to
sort of re enter into a new energy that they've
created in my absence. So there's always this sort of
re entries I think harder.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I definitely feel that too, because when my kids are
at my exes, like they're not used to being there
so much, and then like when they're away from Alan
to like, the kids act different when they come back
even around to like to Alan, and so it's such
a I'm like, wow, I see that even on the
weekends when they come back, there's like this distance for
for a few days and then it's like all right,
we're back into it. But for longer periods it is like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It takes a couple of days to kind of go, okay,
here's our rhythm, here's our routine. Sometimes I get a
little punished by my kids for having been gone. There's
just a little en energy of I really missed you
and I don't like that you leave.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But I feel very, very strongly whenever I leave.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
For a job, I say to the kids, I hate
that my work brings me away from you and creates
that distance. But I love what I do so much,
and I feel like I'm living into my purpose when
I get to do this work and I'm excited. I
love what I do. I'm excited to go do this thing.
(21:31):
I will miss you so much, and also I'm excited
to do this work as opposed to leaving the house
and just being like, oh, I know, it's the worst.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I hate it. I can't believe I have to go.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because if I leave to go shoot a movie with
that energy, then they're like.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, why would you go? Then? What about this negative?
Why would you go?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know? And it's funny because I've heard it reflected back.
My son is making movies now, and he made this.
He's incredible. He made this in these incredible short films.
He builds his own special effects, and he spends hours
and hours and hours teaching himself through YouTube tutorials and whatever.
And I was telling him over the phone, I'm just
(22:14):
so proud of you and proud of your dedication and
your focus and like really crafting all this stuff. And
he says back to me, well, you know, mom, I
love what I do.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, Like, and to be able to show my daughter that, like,
my life is bigger than just being at home, and
I have this world where I get to use the
gifts that I believe have been given to me out
in the world, Like.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
It's I think it's great for her to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, that's such a good point because even when I
travel a little bit for work, when I kind of
get mom guilt, I've done the opposite. And that's such
a good point. I would not have thought about, like
I feel like if I'm like, oh, I don't really
feel like going, I wish I was here with you,
I'm excited or not excited, then that I haven't thought
about that how that can make them be like, then
why are you choosing to go if you're not excited
(23:07):
like that?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like you think that it's saying it's so awful that
I'm going is gonna make them feel better, but in fact,
it actually makes them feel worse because then it's like,
well that doesn't compute, right.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And my kids are getting old enough to bust my
husband now because he travels a ton and his re entry.
It's interesting to hear re entry stories because we go
through it like every week. We're about to go through
it again on Friday, and then we'll go through it
again on Sunday, because it's like these little pockets. Yeah,
but it's so funny because he'll be like, yeah, I
don't want to go, it's not gonna be fun, and
then we FaceTime and he's like going down like an
ice loge or something, and they're like that, so it
(23:40):
seems fun and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna need him
to get pretty honest here because the truth my clients
are getting pretty smart about what you're up.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
To, yeah, and what you're teaching your kids, like that's
so important, especially the girls, like you said, like to
show them like we love our job, we love being
a mother, but we also love our job and that's
so important, so true, thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, my son also is asks me like Hey, Mom,
how's your day? What did you get to shoot today?
What was fun about it? What scene made you feel
really alive? Like? Those are the questions he asks me
when we get a chance to talk. And then I
could be I like a gush about like, oh, I
had so much fun. Oh my gosh, there's a really
cool shot. And I sent him behind the scenes videos,
(24:24):
like especially if for doing VFX stuff, I'll like record myself,
I'll talk to the VFX guy and then I'll so
just to include him while because he's so interested in
it while I'm away just giving that enthusiasm for life
in all the different shapes, in all the different places
it takes us. I think it's just there's there's nothing
bad about it. It only is going to benefit them.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It is out right now.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yes, And I'm trusting you because I really love you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I'm telling you you're gonna love this show.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I have a lot of disconnecting my body about the
show now.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I think it's going to be great.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Oh it's right up, my Alex.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, it's a really fun twist on both of the
genres and it's and it works, It really works. I
can't speak highly enough about it all of the cast
is amazing, The writing is amazing. The romance is so
like it's drawn out and like a really slow burn,
but it's really beautiful and it's deep and grounded, and
(25:20):
and then all the like badassory of the character and
her backstory is just super fun.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
You'll love it. You're you'll love it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And then the hope is the next season you start
filming again, next season.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Hopefully, Yeah, that would be. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see
how it does, but we I hope for many more seasons.
We leave season one on a pretty big cliffhanger that's
gonna make you go.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
What more.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Favorite and what what are you writing next? Like? What
is what are you excited about that you're working on
right now in the writing space.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
So I have a true story.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's been an ongoing process because it's still like a
spec script. I have pretty sirs, but not we don't
have like a studio or a network or anything. So
it's really been I'm trying to find the space to
do it, and I'm like, it's not gonna happen until
mid November that I can get back to it. But
it's a really incredible true story about a woman who
(26:16):
went through a pretty epic trauma when she was a kid,
and twenty years later it kind of derailed her life.
And then twenty years later there's a catalyst that makes
her go back to the hometown and try to confront
what happened. And it's about her healing kind of with
her younger self. And yeah, it's and it's it's a
(26:38):
really beautiful story. It's a beautiful story about forgiveness and
healing and learning to love yourself and shame.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It's about shame.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I got to tell you. That feels a little more
at my alley. But I'm still in for all the
things you do, bab It's Hallmark. It's not like we're
asking to watch that, you know what.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, Well, this is not Hallmark. This would never
be on Hallmark. This thing I'm writing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
No, no, but I'm saying that the other one is yes, yeah, yeah,
I'm like, that's that's Hallmark. I was like, that's you know, yeah,
that's You're You're good, very good, Sarah. Just so we're clear,
I'm never good.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And the one that watches Epray Love over and over
again because I'm like, oh that feels cozy.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I'll just intettle right here.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
I just want to feel cozy.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, it feels fair. So you're Emily Lane in the
series that's out now, this murder Christmas Murders. Thank you.
I keep doing it under missiletoe.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's a Christmas tree.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I really enjoy that immensely. That appeals to me.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So you're Emily Lane and it she's the main character,
she's the shop owner. Yeah, okay, I'm going to ask
the question that Jane always asks him, stealing her question,
but being friends with an actress, I've now learned that
this matters. And so I want to know what parts
of you and Emily match. And that's not me question,
that's actually what Jane would ask if I gave her
the minute to do it.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I think fundamentally she is.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
A bigger over arching story is Emily's desire to fight mind.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Home.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's a very big kind of through line for her,
and it comes out in lots of different ways. And
I think like a home is everything to me as well.
And I go into all these different places and when
I stay home, I say I mean my family, my kids,
(28:23):
my home, my house, and also my friends, like my
chosen home, the place where you can be actually exactly
who you are, and there's there's no shame and there's
no judgment and you can let everything out. And I
think she is in pursuit of that in a way
that I also am in my life. She's a really
(28:45):
really good puzzler and sluthor and I am not.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
So that's very very different. But in that way, she's
actually a lot like my mom.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
My mom is like a huge puzzler, and she's a
scientist and she like her brain works in that way,
I and I Micah wanted to do a murder mystery
party for his birthday this year, and I did all
the costumes obviously pirate murder mystery party.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Half of the guests were adults.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
This is this is my son, and everybody fully committed.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
But I was like, I just want to host. I
just want to make sure everybody's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't want to play a role. I don't want
to figure out who killed the person. So she's she's
very different. I think she's also really empathetic, and I'm
I'm I'm an EmPATH as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
My love, those are beautiful things to have in common
with her. Yeah, we did a murder mystery here for
Jani's fortieth and I saw pictures.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Y'all looked amazing.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
We were so confused.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, no one won, did they know?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
No one solve it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I don't think anyone solved it. I think that group did,
did they?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I think it was tricky because there was a couple
of the guy like the people that led it also
played double characters, but in our brains they played triple
characters because we just met them, so we were going used
what was super confusing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I find the whole thing super confusing. But Micah
invited his like three best friends who are all theater kids,
with their families who are all theater people, and so
everybody fully like showed up in character and break character
(30:23):
and were committed to discovering the truth, playing scenes in
various corners of the house.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
That's fantastic, that's amazing. We had a lot of fun
doing it. We just all got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It was fun to actually figured it out on our end.
He was he was the he was the one that
figured it out.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It was fun to see the people that actually like
went into acting mode, which was not you.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, I shy away from it, like I'm like, wait,
you got to give.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Me a script, give me a script.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm just you really didn't, but you were so cute. No,
just something like I'd rather just like watch everybody have fun.
Like that's my thing, you know, because whenever we go anywhere,
you know, Jolie, butig want to show ride this or
do that. I'm like, I just want to see everybody
have fun, Like everyone go, I'll take the photos and
I'll you know, I just I just wanted to be
a part of it.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I love. That's very much my vibe too, That's I
love that part.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, I think everybody have a good time. But Janna
is so sleuthy that I thought for sure she would
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, No, are you a sloop? I don't think so,
But who knows. But you said earlier that when we've
talked about this too, you're you're really, you know, big
on your faith and you're public about that. Where in
your life does your faith get tested the most?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think that the It's the biggest thing that's sort
of been with me since I started in this career,
which is allowing the industry and people's opinion of me
or how fancy or famous I am to begin to
define me and I to fy my worth. And I
(32:03):
think that's the hardest thing, to be able to fully
live into the truth and reality that I am fundamentally
beloved and belong and and have. My identity is rooted
in being a child of God and being a mother,
in being a wife, and being a friend.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Daughter and sister.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I my battle and the way that my faith
is tested is just in the remembering, the remembering of
who I am and who what my identity is and
what it's grounded in. That's I think the hardest thing,
and I struggle with it all the time. And I
have times where I'm like, I just feel so loved
and known and seen and it's wonderful.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
And then I have other times where I'm like, ah.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I feel so useless and worthless and nobody likes me,
and and I forget it's it's them, it's the Remember
I love.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That, Sarah. I always thank you for coming on, always
bringing your truth. And and we're so excited. I am.
I am very excited to watch this because yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm cautiously it'll be the first one.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And you're gonna love it too.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
You're going to watch these series on a Hallmark Plus.
Sarah Drew, you're the best. Thank you friend, thank you.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Good to see so good to see you guys.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Bye, talk too soon.
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