August 28, 2023 • 48 mins
Do you have a "side of the bed"?? Jana and her Queendom talk to a couple that went viral on Tik Tok because they change up their "sides" all the time!!
It's babymoon time for Jana! Will she take one?? And what does she want as her "push present"??
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On today's podcast, we are going to have the great
debate on which side of the bed do you sleep
and do you have a regular end this video that
went viral on TikTok with this TikTok couple are there?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Because I really thought you were gonna be in your
bedroom when we got on. It's what made you famous.
So I'm going to need you guys to take us
to where you sleep and lay down and get a try. So,
I mean, are you as shocked as kind of? I mean,
look when I saw the rundown, I'm like, wait, what
(00:39):
what is this? Like what I mean you just were
talking about your bed position sleeping.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Yeah, it was definitely shocked. We usually post DIY content.
We do DIY renovation and home decor. Very rarely do
I ever talk into the camera like that. But we
had a conversation with two of our friends. I don't
know how it came up, but like sleeping arrangements came
up and we mentioned how we don't have a regular
(01:09):
side of the bed. We just sort of switched it
up and they were so freaked out by that and
the reaction was so funny that I thought, oh, I'm
just going to post that on TikTok and see what
other people say. It's as crazy as ever as our
friends said. And I definitely did not expect it to
get the response that it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Did because it does not seem that interesting to us.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But yeah, okay, so walk us through the TikTok like
just like kind of describe it for people that haven't
seen it and are listening to this and are like, Okay,
hang on a second, we need to know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yes, So the TikTok, I'm literally just telling the camera
that we don't have a regular side of the bed.
Last night, I slept on that side of the bed.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
The night before I.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Slept on this side of the bed. It's not something
we talk about. We just kind of randomly choose and
is just as crazy as everyone thinks it is.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It was like a twenty second TikTok and we got
like nine thousand comments, and we were on Insider magazine
and ABC News and we got like hundreds of stitches
and some of those stitches got millions of views. So yeah,
I just kind of exploded from a very simple fact.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's what's so interesting about TikTok because I feel like
some videos are like low and then the next they're like,
you know, million million views, and I'm like, the algorithm
makes no sense to me, nor like even the topics
of certain things, because I you know, I'm sure you
would have expected something else to probably get higher likes
or whatever. And then but I feel like people, well,
I don't know. I mean, I don't really it's not
(02:42):
really a thing. I mean, it's just kind of like,
that's your side, and that's your side. So I call
it the murder side and the non murder side of
the bed.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
So the closest to the.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Door is the murder side. So I'm like, if anyone
ever never said that, you're going to go first, and
so I make my husband sleep on the murder side.
Oh the door.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
There were so many comments about that.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
We never even thought about, like if if there was
an intruder, who's going to get attacked for it didn't
cross our minds.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But it should be.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You, Skylert, should be you.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
But here's the question.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Our bed is the door is right here and on
the other side is a window.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So I don't know, Well, that's the robber side, not
the murder side.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Okay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
While they get a little and feels like you get
a little more of a heads up, you know, so
I like the robbers. You can hear I can hear
the window.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh got it right? So wait, so y'all don't even
talk about it, Like so whoever goes to bed first
just kind of decides where they want to sleep and
then the other person goes on the other side, or
do you go to bed at the same time, and
it's just like, see what happens.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
You got a bed at the same time, and whoever
gets in versus who dictates what side of the bed
they're sleeping on. And I don't think we've ever discussed it.
It's just always been this, I guess, quirky habit we've had.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I think a couple of times, like sometimes I, let's
say I'm on one side of the bed for a
couple of days or a week, which is a lot,
and then all of a sudden I switched.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Skyler will be like, oh, like, not that side anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Like occasionally we'll bring it up if like we've fallen
into a certain pattern, but it's just I mean, we've
been together for ten years.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
This is so regular. It's not something that we.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You guys, we've been on the road for like a year,
and we have our sides in the bed and we
have our sleeping arrangements and we turn into a hotel room.
We know who's sleeping with you on what side?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What about like your bedside tables, like your stuff on
your bedside table.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We don't have stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, well, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
The same phone chargers was another thing that people talked about.
We have like the same phone charger, and like we
have stuff in our nightstand drawers.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
But we don't access it nightly.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like all of our skincare stuff, all of our bedtime
routine stuff is in like the bathroom and our vanity,
Like we don't do anything in bed to get ready,
because that was another big comment that people.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We don't do that any there. But like, so then
you're not fighting over chargers. It's kind of nice. We're
always like who.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Took my ar? It's like the bed equivalent of a whiteboard.
You're just like, see what we do here every single night.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
But if you so, obviously you have your side of
the bed Christian, Yeah, Janna.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Obviously there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But when you go to like a hotel, do you
ever switch it up? Or do you stay with the
same side of the bed when you go to a
hotel or some or sleep somewhere different.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I stay on the same what do you non murder?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god? You okay, we will we will switch
it up in like a like a different place, not
even not even thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's content the layout of the room, like.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If there's a like not that's her, not me. I
have never thought of a murder side. I just if
I'm in a hotel, it's different. So I'll sometimes just
pick the other side of the bed on.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Murder side though that's the well. In the old house,
I was on non murder side, but it wasn't the
right side of the bed. But now right side of
the bed here at the rental and the new house
will be by the door, so I'll be on murder side. Well,
I give you. I vote you most likely to handle anybody,
Especially when I heard a noise and I was like,
get up, get up, and I was like grab the gun,
(06:04):
and I think he was so uncomfortable, like holding the
gun down. I'll take care of this. I was like,
Michigan's side really sneaks out. Yeah, I was like, give
me the gun. Do you guys have animals? Do they
play into this? What do we have? What name all
the heartbeats that exist in the bed nightly? So I
know the players and pieces we're working with here, all.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Right, I'm Angelena. This is Skyler, our cats. Could actually
see them in the background. That's Blue and Bree, and
Blue usually likes to sleep next to me and Bree
likes to sleep next to Skyler, so they sort of
switch with us.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
You switch side.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I know they're like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Our habitat is rocked funny?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're probably so confused. So okay, so you do DIY stuff.
What is what is one of your favorite DIY things
that you like to do?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I mean I think some of my uh, some of
the content that's done the best and that we.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Like showing is just our whole house renovation.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
We bought our house in twenty twenty and it's the
nineteen fifties house and was a big fixer upper, so and.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
We renovated it all just the two of us.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So we sort of documented that whole journey of doing
everything rehaving the floors, knocking down walls, and then the
decoorse stuff came later, which is also fun, like painting
and wallpaper and all that type of fun stuff. So
I just I love showing the transformation, the big transformations,
but we also do the small transformations too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Were you, guys di Wires before you bought this house?
Like did you? Are you savvy and knowing what you're doing?
Because we could buy anything and we would have no clue.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I build houses for a living, so for me.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, it's work.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, I hate it's work, and I'm like clumsy, not knowledgeable,
not crafty at all. So together he was sort of
the expert teaching me how to do things, and then
I learned as we went along. But yeah, this was
all totally new to me, not my well love expertise whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's why Skyler's face was a little like frozen. When
you're like it's so fun, He's like, is it now?
Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Because you build houses, is there one thing? So I'm
moving into a new house that I built in a
couple of weeks, is there one thing that I'm like
I should have? Well, I probably I'm like, what should
I have? Done better with But like, is there anything
that like I need to look out for with the building,
even though I mean this is not my second build,
but like, is there something where I should like check
(08:30):
to make sure before I head into the house.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
If it's all new, you you should be good. I mean,
it's all just standard.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Maintenance from that point, cool air filters in the air
conditioner and you know, flush out the water heater every
couple of years. But it's just I mean, if it's
all new stuff, then you should be good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Guys, I haven't flushed anything in two years. Water the
air filters are always I always find it.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
It depends where you live to Like, our water is
very hard, so there's a lot of calcium deposits stuff
like lines.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Apparently ours is.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think ours is too. I don't know that we've
done that either, but I know that's on my list. Actually. Yeah,
so like thoughts of the next TikTok that's going to
be so random and go viral again, Like you'll have
any ideas any Like.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
We were like thoroughly discussing like what other weird habits?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, like what else is weird about y'all?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I mean we're very normal people.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So we didn't think this was that weird. So maybe
we're not normal, So maybe you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Maybe there's not normal. That's not normal. I need to
say it. You've been reiterated by thousands and millions, But.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Did you have anyone say that they do that as well,
like anybody.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yes, we've had comments. I think like one percent. There are.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
There are people, especially as big as it gets, there
are more people commenting like, oh, that's us too. But
the vast, vast majority are people calling us serial killers.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
There is something wrong with you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But I'm the one that has a murder side. Do
you have places that you watch TV, like when you
sit down at the couch? Is that a free for
all too? I mean, I just feel like your whole
life's real willy nilly At this point I need to
know like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's a free for all.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's all yeah, Like we don't have a spot at
the kitchen table, we don't have a spot on the couch.
Sometimes when we're watching TV, you know, because there's a
chase part and then there's like the couch part. Like
in the middle of watching something, we'll look at each
other and we'll be like, let's switch, you know, because
there's like there's depending on where you are in the couch.
You know, my shoulder might start hurting on this side,
so I need to.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If I tried to take the chase part of our couch,
I might there might be a divorce attorney involved, like
I have, I've married a creature. We like he has
a habitat you know, yeah, not us. Well, congrats on
the TikTok and I hope that you know, it's it's
(10:52):
a good promotion to for everything else you guys got
going on. So that's awesome, and we will now follow
along where can our listeners fall along to see if
there's any more weird things that pop up.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yes, on TikTok and YouTube, we are renovating our home
and then on Instagram we're underscore renovating our home.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Cool, awesome, Well, thank you so much for coming on. Bye,
Sweet Dreams. You know what I was thinking about when
they were talking about it was like and not that
Like I mean, Alan is a very cleanly person, like
he showers all the time, but like it's just I
want to lay in like their spot, I don't know,
(11:29):
and again it's like I lay on top of them
or like we like do all the things, but like
I wouldn't want to, like it's like.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, it's like they're spot and they're like, yeah, I
wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't know. Yeah I would do that level unless
you're like changing the sheets every day for some reason
that that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Don't even like to take his pillows, Like sometimes our
pillows will get mixed up and I'm like, no, no, no,
that's your pillows.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Because I have It's like I don't know. It's like
a still yeah, and there's like a smell still not that,
not again, not that, but because he doesn't he always
smells great, but still still and I like my outside
but yeah, they say that. I can't remember what it was.
But there was something about like how your skin sheds
and you actually should wash your sheets more than what
(12:14):
the two weeks. Okay, that would be my question. How
often are you guys changing sheet? Well, not as often
as same.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I should, probably not as often as I should.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Either it goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I feel like it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That's what happens with the air filters too. Unless I
have like the maid coming every two weeks, then I'll
leave the sheets out. But sometimes I'm like, oh shoot,
because they don't wash the sheets. They're just like leave
them on the bed. But if I forget and I
don't have an extra set, and I'm like, oh, it's fine,
just leave it, and then it's like a month. So
I'm sure this will shock you. But I don't like
the way people make my bed. No shock, no shock.
So I have to make my bed.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you have cleaners come and tell them not to make.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Your bed yep, I literally say, don't touch the master bed.
Here's my problem though, which I will agree, which drives
me crazy is if I end up using if I
end up using cleaners again, which I most will, but
they never make the bed the same each time. And
I want to take a picture and be like please
because I have to now go back take off the
sheets because they use the wrong sheet, like what's supposed
(13:10):
to be like my duvet cover. They use it as
like the bench cover, and I'm like, no, it's not
the right sheet. Like listen, I don't my own husbands,
their own interior designers.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, just like yeah, no does too.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Plus we have like very definitive sides, like I have
a shocking again, a weighted blanket franksiity on my side,
and I'm always like in a snowsuit with seven layers
of comforters, and his side is like fan in the face.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's our room.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So it's a little like we even have like different
blankets sometimes because if I have my big thick one on
because we change them a lot are comforters, then he'll
like literally push my thick one over and just get
a thin one for him. And then if the cleaners come,
it'll be like thick one and thin one and like
all of them because they don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, and then I'm tired and pissy. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
this just doesn't go here. I know, hashtags, I mean
that doesn't bother. Listen. I've been trying to so I
have asked for help, right, Oh good. Remember when I
had a mental breakdown last week, I got a lot
of support online. Oh good, I g FAM really supported me.
I had a vulnerability hangover bad. After that, I was like,
I cried, why am I you know?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh you're good.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I have gotten cleaner's back.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Does that help you or stress you out?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
More?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So far, I think I'm just at a point where,
like I have realized I'm only one human, so like,
any help is great good and I have a great cleaner.
Got it from Sarah Bryce. Actually, oh no, no, anybody
I ever give her she has a problem with right,
But then any person she ever gives me ends up
(14:43):
being a problem like that. She ends up like oh
I ended up not liking this, or I ended like, oh,
I know, because she gave me a woman, I have
to say a different name, right, can I should I
not use your name? Different name Judy, Judy Judy. Sorry,
she's great, but the kids you're gonna, oh, for babysitting
or cleaning, So no, for like babysitting, she's like a grandmother.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
You're gonna love Judy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Let her in, she's gonna be awesome. And then I
literally am like opening the door for Judy, and I
get a text from Sarah don't let Judy. Hey, by
the way, I meant to tell you, Judy is a
no go. I'm like, well she did that to me too,
standing in front of me, so we're gonna have to
She gave.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Us a babysitter, and I used her for a long
time and she was like, oh yeah, I didn't like her, Babby.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
No, Okay, I'm changing names. I don't know because you're
changing sure, Babby, and had like the whole summer thing
planned out and then she canceled, like a day before
school got out, that she couldn't watch the kids over summer,
and like I had planned it with for like mikes
weeks two, like to help out Simon or not very unreliable.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, the one I used was very reliable. I loved her.
But then Sarah came back and was like, yeah, no,
and I was like, oh, I love her. I've been
using her.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Did her name ryme with Mary?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Because that was another one that's hair game. And I
just need to go on record for saying that I
teed her and I up with the tutor that I
thought might be helpful for the kids this summer because
I was like, I was super pregnant, brand new baby,
maybe like just a couple hours a week with this teacher,
and the teacher ended up bailing on both Sara and
I after talking from February to May about the plans.
So we're one for one there. Well, Sarah had called
(16:22):
me the other day and she's like, hey, so, what's
your hair girl's name? I go, Nope, I won't do
it to the hair girl.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I'm not going to do it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I was like, I love you, but nope, because anybody
that I've ever sent her, she's like, well I don't
like this. I'm like, that's fine. The problem is I
don't like doing but she can do her own hair,
I know. But then she always complains about her I know.
But since she knows what she's doing, she's extra. Yeah,
but like the flashes that like I gave her my
my last cleaning lady and like she was my clean
(16:52):
lay is awesome. I think she's so good she's yeah,
and so they just never mind. I won't say that
it's mean, but well no, I just like every time
I have to record, that's when they want to like
really loudly talk, and it's hard because I'm like working
from home too, right right, you know what I mean.
(17:13):
So then they don't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, No, you will cut that. I'm just saying, they're
very loud. Anyways, we're gonna cut that. Okay, so cutting
that is. But no, but anytime like I gave her
like my cleaning lady, she like there was like, oh,
she didn't wash the inside of the top corner of
(17:38):
the my and I'm just like, they might have missed
that spot. That's way back to Sarah. And I read that,
I was just like, no more. And then her people,
I'm like, no, I'm good. Well, if I ever mean
to them or like ever say anything negative about anybody
that knows my address, I think that's like a good
rule with them, like you know where I live. So
I'm just always like, great job today and I just reschedule. Yeah, yeah,
(18:03):
but but no. Good Old Sarah Bryce got a lover.
She's literally the most unintentionally funny person I've ever met.
She's great, She's so good anything something's really important. When
she's calling you at seven in the morning while I'm
getting the kids all ready for school and I'm like, hey,
I call it seven's with Sarah, I wonder and I'm like,
oh Jesus, she or the life. No. When she goes
(18:25):
call me and I'm like thinking, oh God, something like
really happened. And then she's like, when did I lose
our passport? Again? I was like, your passport and it
was is that what?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, thinking she said nine one she did.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
She was freaking out and then it was like, hey,
do you remember when I was like, oh lord.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Sarah, I thought someone died, Like anyways, well this just
became I don't even know what happened. Take a break
and then we'll come back on with something else. All right, Kabi,
(19:08):
what do you got? Oh? Laughing, not crying. That's refreshing.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Hu.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I surprised my husband. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, okay,
with a what guys, this is actually kind of awesome.
So I surprised my husband with a staycation in Franklin
because it was fifteen minutes down the road from the
new baby. I just teed us up really wisely. At home,
we have had a night do look come for the baby,
so I could feel extra reassured there. I had Miss
(19:36):
Ashton with the kids, and she's nice and OCD and
great and so I loved that. And I brought his
best friend from home down as a surprise. So his
best friend and his wife came and they met us
at dinner and it was just nice because they're not industry,
and it's he doesn't with travel get to see his
people enough, and that's kind of like how he plugs
back in and he doesn't have to be on because
(19:57):
they're just as homies, you know. Can I just say
little caveat? Yeah, you always say that you want to
just be with like you and him. You don't get
you and him time. So was introduced or to having
that friend come in? Was that like was this for him? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Just for him, just for him?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Got it? Got it, got it.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was gonna just do the night us and I.
That was great, but I just know a little nice
thing for him.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, like it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's also kind of like sneaky for me though, because
I was getting a hotel and my kids, like I
didn't have to wake up and we were gonna have
breakfast in bed. So yeah, So the next morning we
get up, it's like six thirty and he's waking me
up and he's like, we we should probably get on
we should get out of here and head home. And
I'm I get six thirty. I've never seen this man
up before six thirty unless he has a flight, you know.
(20:41):
So I say okay, and I'm trying not to take
it personal, but the story I'm telling myself is like
I guess, like just not attractive. We don't want to
do anything this morning, like, I'm confused because we don't
have kids, and I'm in your oversize. Sure, and that's it, you.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Know, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay. So he's like, baby, let's just get some coffee.
And it keeps going, Baby, you look real hot. Let's
go get some coffee. And I'm like, but if I
look hot, then get over here, you know, because you're cleared. Yes, yes,
oh yes, yes, yes, yes for four weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It was the same week his parents came to visit. Okay, okay.
So anyways, he's moving me along and I can't quite
figure out why he's moving me along. I'm trying not
to take it personal, almost like okay, whatever. So we
go downstairs, say hi to the friends, grab coffee, and
he's kind of rushing me, and he goes, I have
to tell you something. Belly sinks, right, because I'm always
just waiting for the worst. He said, you surprised me,
(21:36):
but I was actually surprising you. So we have a
flight out this morning, and the reason I'm rushing new
is because we really have to be on our way
to Bna by like nine point thirty at the latest,
and we still have to get back home so that
you can grab a change of clothes, and I said,
can I know where we're going? And he said, you can't. Ah,
I know. So next thing I know, I'm landing in
(21:57):
Detroit to see the Cubs play Detroit time yours. This
is Michael Caprera's last season, and I wanted to get
to the game.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Rose up from home plate and we got to date
and drink beer and eat nachos, and he rooted for
the Cubs and I rooted for the do That was
so cute. It was really wonderful. Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So his manager, our doula, the babysitter, all calling at
the Friend's episode, the one with the double surprise, because
everyone was bending, that's amazing, that's so creat When did
you come When did you come back? Yesterday morning? So
you were gone for how many nights? Two nights total
in Detroit? No one night? Okay, Yeah, he knew his limits,
(22:44):
and he actually panicked because he thought, that's two nights
away from the baby. She's not going to do that.
And everyone was going, I didn't know if I should
tell you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm glad that you can do it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's good. I did it. It took a beer, but
I did it.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Into a hotel for me for our like one year
back together or whatever. Yeah, but I woke up that
morning feeling like death, and I slept pretty much the
entire time in the hotel day and night.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I kept I'd wake up, but I'd go.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm really sorry, babe, I'm really sorry. It's like, it's fine, honey,
I just went back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He as fine, as he's writing in his diary. Oh
what did he do when you were sleeping?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He literally watched I fell asleep, but I mean we
would like watch something, and then I mean we got
dinner and ate in the room. We were going to
go to dinner, but he just he walked and got
dinner and brought it back, and then he was watching
a football game and then like went to bed early.
I woke up at like nine thirty. He's like, all right, well,
I'm gonna go to bed, and I was like, no,
I'm up. But I only stayed up for like an hour,
(23:41):
Like I was so tired. I just did not feel
good and I felt we got massages. We did also
get massage, okay, so it was great. It was just funny.
I felt terrible I was like, I'm so sorry, but
it was also just nice to sleep.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I know, there's a lot that hinges when you do
like a one night it feels a little like pressure too.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, you know that. He was great about it. Because
I kept saying I'm so sorry. He was like, it's
totally fine. I mean, it was fine. It was nice.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Alan and I have never done a vacation together. That's sad.
It's okay, We're going to get there. No we haven't.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
We'll get there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah. We were thinking about doing a baby moon in October,
but there's just so much going on that I'm like,
I don't even know if I have time. Yeah, it's tricky.
It's just a tricky time of year. Yeah, I know.
So we'll figure it out. But I would like, you
can make it work. You did a baby moon, and
I'll be honest, I kind of want a refund. It
was great, but like I was so sick.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I know, and it was amazing, but I just kept thinking, gosh,
I would have we should like I wanted to have.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Born moon.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I'm going to be full steam ahead, like work,
you know, like wanting to work and travel to like, yeah,
pay for three kids.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like just warning, let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But no, I think there's a piece of me too
that has a little bit of like a negative taste
of the baby moon because I know the stuff that
happened with my like ex like right before, like when
we had discovery. One of the things he told me
happened a week before that our baby moon in la
which I thought was like the most magical trip we
(25:23):
had and we were in like we went to the
montage in Laguna Beach and I'm like, wait, a week
before you were X, Y and Z, Like I just
I don't know it like kind of like tainted then,
like that baby moon was like the biggest like even
though they say, like you know to hold like what
was happening in the moment was real, but it still
(25:44):
like taints it a little bit. Yeah that's you know.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, so do you want like a do over?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, And then like for Jase, we didn't really do one,
Like it was like a let's not because I was
so scorned by the like baby moon name that I
was like, let's not call it it. But we went
to like a pool and right, I'd like, but we
didn't like travel or vacation for it. So a piece
of me is like, do I want to do over
or like I never had a baby moon before this one,
(26:11):
and this one was kind of a honeymoon baby moon.
It was our first trip ever just the two of us,
and we've been together eight years. Yeah, well, and I
never had honeymoon either, shockingly, so so of all the
so I feel like, maybe we don't even have to
call it. I wouldn't have even called ours a baby moon,
but the resort did when they found out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Remember if I had, I don't even remember. I'm sure
we traveled, but I never like made it like this
big thing. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know, did you guys ever see a thing with
Kelly Clarkson in the Push Present? How people were like, oh,
you know, she was like, I never got a push present.
(26:56):
I should have known that she was joking. People were
started to be mean, being like, you know, you being
like thinking that she was being what's the word? Yeah,
she said she never got one, yes, yeah, And then
she's like, I should have known when I never got
a push present, like basically, but that people were saying
(27:16):
like that she was being what.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Is the word feels no, it feels.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Disingenuous now it's at that game a word, what's that
game like?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Not reading the room like I got to know it?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like I love her too, But I felt.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That way a little bit when I read it, really like.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
That she was being what's the word like pretent No,
not pretentious.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's like there's plenty of people that don't get pushed
present like she wanted to diamond and be like okay,
like really you're married. But again, I love her not
trying to talk whatever. And I don't think that that
was necessarily her intention, but it did feel very like
not pretentious, but something like that. You know, it just
felt very like, Okay, plenty people don't get push presents
(28:04):
like that. Shouldn't be mean that your marriage was doomed
because you didn't get right.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I think she was joking when she said it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, I think she.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Was having said that. I would say, and this is
actually very interesting for you to say this because you're
a gift girl. I am so you like gifts, like
gifts is your love language. Absolutely so, And I'm not
a gift girl. But for carrying your child for nine months,
I want a gift.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I want a little and I'm not saying I want I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Confused the bush presents the human.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, see, I don't know, I the.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Gift of life. Can I get us back on track?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think i'd be mad
about I don't remember if I get.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Mad, But I think I would like it to be
like here's the nine months even hurled over a toilet
and like feeling sick and not being able to eat
hardly anything, and like you know what I mean, and
just like a nice pretty little maybe like a little
ring with like the birth speaking, like the birthstones of
all three kids. That would be really cute. Okay, okay,
(29:11):
are you going to text it's for everyone? But I'm
just saying it's not like something that. Again, I wouldn't
be upset. I think it's just a nice gesture. Oh yeah, no,
I won't be mad. I'm not going to say our
marriage or is going to be doomed because he doesn't
give me a busch present. I'm just saying it's I
think it's a nice gesture. I agree, gesture gesture.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I agree. I think my was just saying. When I
read her saying it, I was kind of like, oh,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Think I would have said that but as a gift girl,
why do you not want that?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I didn't say don't want it? I said I didn't.
I said I felt that way when she said that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But you don't care. You wouldn't care about anyone because
you haven't, right all I have?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember, honestly. No, that's the thing.
I know. I can't remember if I got it. What's
the third? Honestly, ca, which is terrible. It was probably
something so great, and I just can't think about it
right now. I just I am a gift person. I
just that one. I don't know wouldn't bother me that
(30:12):
much for it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Because you're distracted by the immense amounts of healing that
you're doing that you're not thinking about.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I don't even remember. But honestly, I probably put him
through so much craft when I was pregnant that, like, really,
I was so sick and probably made him do everything,
and did I probably made him do everything?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Were you ever snippy?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Okay, were you? Were you because hormones and pregnant?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Right? Well?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Sure, yes.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Said this to be pregnant woman over.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Here, Yes we do, Janna, Well, we all snippy. I
was very spicy this pregnancy. Yes, you were to you.
I'm always nice to you.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
What did I say?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Was I snippy somewhere in saying but like you were
snippy with breast?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Look at me, you guys?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Kind of so like to ask her if she was.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Like, okay, let me rephrase.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Okay, you know some women are like truly miserable pregnant.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
You know, well, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna point both.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Y'all out, but you know how y'all Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So I didn't get to see you pregnant ever, and
I wondered if you were like I.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Would take me as someone that would be like I
was not necessarily as snippy as I was, just like
sick and miserable and made him do everything. Okay, And
I'm really thinking back to my last one the most, obviously.
So we had two kids, and I was like, take
these children away from me while I sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Like, you know, the joke is always about pregnant women,
like we're so hormonal and we rage out and all
these things.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I don't think I was a rager, No, I just
felt really really bad. Yeah, And so I felt for
him because it's like that was a lot on his plate,
especially if you're having a third I mean that's a lot. Yeah,
but I probably got a push present. I just don't remember. Sorry,
I'll i'll ask him later. I don't remember the third one.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Probably helped him get it for you, probably, Yeah, can
you get through your text chain? What did you get?
I got this Tiffany bracelet with three little diamonds for
three little babies. Oh see, that's cute, sweet and like delicate.
But you would have been fine just having the gift
of line. Yeah, I never got I didn't get push presents.
I was so excited. I'm like, this is what they
look like. H Yeah. I don't think Allen knows it
(32:29):
there and he doesn't listen to this podcast. So can
we talk about Scottish verse versus American on Instagram? Sure?
Because I'm a host. And then somebody sent me and
crossed gream and I'm so sorry that there's a sentence
that literally Scottish people cannot say the purpurple Oh he can,
he can.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We did it on my TikTok. Is it purple purple
burglar alarm? And he can do it, he can. It's
just the way they say burglar is funny. Oh, like
it's I can pull it up. I'm gonna pull it
up on my TikTok. But no burger burger burg But yeah, no,
it's just it's it's how they say, like the actual
(33:13):
Oh sorry, let me see here.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That said.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Scottish people can't say purple burglar alarm. I'm going to
go test it on the boyfriend. Okay, say that four
times fast, as fast as you can four times.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Purple bug let alone, purple bugle it alone alone alone.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You did it better than I could do.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah. I couldn't say anything four times fast though. Yeah, okay,
but no, that was funny. I got a good laugh.
Swimming costume, That's what it was. Swimming cost the first
time he said that because I had heard that one
obviously before. I see that's like, are you gonna bring
your swimming costume? And I'm like what He's like, you're
(34:04):
swimming costume? And I'm like, explained, because a costume to
me is when you dress up in Halloween. So what
does he think Halloween is?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Does is there are those? Just I've never asked. We
need to know because it's on your list. It's a
bathing suit or a swim suit. Yeah, yeah, a swimming
costume like that was like as if I'm going to
be Michael Phelps for Halloween. Yeah, it was interesting. I
really enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. It was all good. Yeah,
we're gonna do maybe a few more of those because
(34:33):
they were fun. I love you, But I guess that's it. Yeah,
I'm good. You know, just breathing over there, just breathing.
Is he kicking? He's kicking. Oh, he's a soccer player.
Gousie's a soccer player. So girls, are you gonna say
something bad to us? No? I do have a question.
(34:56):
I don't like the look in her eyes. Cat So
So I had a conversation with someone about coming on
the podcast. Oh no, and it wouldn't be until October,
(35:20):
But would you guys want to be on the podcast
when this person comes on the podcast? I was thinking
of doing a like part series with it, because obviously
my book is coming out in October, and he has
not really shared his side of things, and I think
(35:43):
when one side comes out, it's important to hear the
other and then also to maybe, you know, talk about
how we've been able to move on co parenting, what
he's up to things like that, and I was thinking
about it, and because we had the conversation the other
(36:05):
day when he was driving me back from some things
I needed to ride with the kids, and he brought
it up and we just discussed it and I said, OK, right,
let me just kind of like wrap my mind around this.
I was like, well, I think Mark would for sure
want to be on and we can maybe have that
as like a thing where like I ask listeners if
(36:28):
they have any questions or if they want to know something,
and Mark can kind of ask those questions and then
we can do like a Thursday episode of like co parenting,
and then another one would be with you guys. But
if you're not comfortable, I wouldn't put you on the spot.
(36:48):
Then I'm putting you on the spot now because I
want to know so I can just like because it's
a lot to like process and plan in my brain too,
I feel that myself. What undecided?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What did he say? Does he know that there's an
option of having well aka me in the room? I
don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Take it, I'll just say he took a really big
deep breath.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, I don't think he'd want me in a room.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
With him, so does he want But he didn't say, no, huh,
what do you want me in a room? Well, I said, well, hey,
like obviously I do my podcast with Kristen and Catherine,
so like, you know, maybe like the first one it's
just like Mark and you and I, and then the
part two is with the girls, and then the third
(37:35):
is like you and I again and with just like
co parenting and like you know what he's doing now
and you know, support whatever he's kind of going, you
know what he's doing. And again it's like it's something
that I know I'm bringing. I'm going to talk to
my therapy therapist about it because it is still like
there's still so many, so many layers too to it.
(37:55):
So it's like to but yeah. But then when I
was like, well, and you know Kristen and Catherine, it
could be in the episode two, and he just went
so he didn't say yes or no, and which then
to me goes, okay, well let me lego. Let me
(38:16):
just kind of wrap my mind around this because I
think it's I see like the pros and cons, and
I see I also think too, you know. He this
was also his podcast too, and so people listened and
maybe they want to also have or hear sure something
(38:38):
from him, you know, or like a because I don't
think it's let's take anybody that misses Mike. Raise your
hand now, just saying so, I just would you guys
be comfortable or do you need time to think about it?
Because you said you need I would say I need
a minute, okay, I would like to. I mean I
have seen him one time since then, I haven't seen
(39:02):
him as often as probably you have, Kat, I just
need I would say I need a minute. I feel
fully like there is a place that you guys exist
in my brain that I feel really good about. That
I kind of always saw in YouTube. Do you remember
me saying to you like, I always thought you guys
would be really good friends or better friends than a couple.
(39:27):
So there's a part of me that sees him that way.
But then there's just a part of me that makes
me want to cry a little bit, like just witnessing
a lot of hurt for someone that I really love
a lot. So that's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I would do it. I just don't think he would
sit down with me, And I think that's also hurtful
and hard for me because I know how much he
hates me, and that's I know it's not about me,
but that also there is something there for me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Also, why do you think and like, I mean, I
would want to listen to that podcast because I'm sure
there's many people in that situation where like, and I
don't want to put you in a situation where you're
not comfortable, which is why I'm asking ahead of time. Yeah,
but like if you're not comfortable and you're like, I mean, like,
I would never put you in that situation. Absolutely having
said that, as like a listener, I'm sure there's many
times where friends are like would want to hear the
(40:21):
like friendship of the person because you were also you
guys were all also hurt in that situation and for
you to say, well, he hates me, I don't. Again,
it's like it was his own hatred. I believe that,
like it was never like, why do you think he
hates you?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I just I think that there's a lot of blame
he puts on me. I don't know. I think it's again,
it's not about me. But the times that I've seen him,
I see it in his eyes. He won't speak to me.
I've kept his child he won't bring her to me.
I mean, there's a lot of reasons. There's been a
lot of I would love to bury the hatchet with him.
(41:00):
I would love to be able to see him. I
would love to be able to tell him the things
that like, you know, we were friends too, you know,
and he you know, it's just that got ripped away
so fast, which is fine. I think we always side
with our friends. And it was hard, like you said,
to see her, but like there's probably just hurt on
both sides obviously, But I would I would welcome that conversation.
(41:23):
I just don't know that he would.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Do you think that he wouldn't because of the ownership
it would take for him to sit down with you,
because I don't know, I don't. Do you think he
would hate her? Listen, I mean Catherine was always the one,
and I you know, I wrote this even in the book,
like you told me to leave many times that I
would be like, but I never did, you know what
(41:48):
I mean? So he can't hate you for something that
like a never hap you know what I mean? And
only he can't. I think it's just again his own
actions because he can't look you in the eye knowing
all the things that you know that no one will
ever know true, you know, Yeah, that's hard. I think
it's his shame that he can't work you in the eyes. Yeah,
that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, and probably I know that there's you know, yes
that like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm saying, it might feel good for to him to
have you say.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
And there was there's things that I mean, I could
I've got things I would love to say to him.
I mean I think about it often actually, so I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So I don't know what would you say or what's
one thing that like what like, what do you want
to say to him?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I cared about him too, and so that doesn't just
go away. I think that you can care for someone
and then make the worst actions in the world, But
that doesn't make you, know a care, you know, caring
about someone to go away, and that at the end
of the day, I in my mind, I wasn't just
looking out for you, I was also trying to look
(42:56):
out for him. I felt like y'all were toxic together,
and that what was so frustrating because it became so
us against him, and I just want to explain to
him that it truly wasn't just this I hate Mike.
It was not It was y'all have to get out
of this. Y'all are not healthy, and I just don't
I understand why you wouldn't see it that way, but
(43:19):
I would love to be able to explain that to him,
because he wasn't happy either, you know. So it's like, again,
I did care about him, It wasn't just like you know,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Well, it wouldn't be until like October, so yeah, you
have some time to think about it. But I'm also
like when he mentioned it, it was like, Okay, I
kind of need time to like process because what I
don't want to happen is get him on and like
drudge up, Like I don't want a whole episode of
like because I'm like we're past that, but there are
(43:54):
still things that like need to like be flushed out
and then also you know, but not like stay in that.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's like, let's ask the questions I want. So it's
like I want to be very like mindful of if
there are any questions from the past, I do want
to ask that I don't know yet, you know. So
it's like I need time with that to like process
and then them like does that even matter? And like
do I want to put that really out? So it's
like I just need to like process that side too.
I do think I do think this is a healthy enough,
(44:28):
mature enough like you and I are healthy enough, mature
enough to like lead it to a good place. I
think we've always seen what could be good about him
and defended him or played Devil's advocate in times not defended. Sure,
So I don't think it for me, it's not like
this like flipping tables moment and that's what I'm afraid of.
(44:49):
It's just I just I don't know. I'm like, I'm
careful with my words even here. Well, I think that's why,
like you have to think about what you'd really wan
want to ask, because again I don't want to spend
time in the past because I don't think I have
any questions about that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I think it really should just be if there's something that.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Like I have one in the book when I was
doing the audio and I'm like, I was like, man,
I always kind of want to know that, you know,
And I'm just wondering, can I think it's something that
a lot of divorced women might also still wonder about
like their X. So it's something that I'm like, I'm
but I'm like, I don't know, I got it. So
it's like I got to sit with these things. So
(45:29):
it's like, find what you would want to ask if
that opportunity comes up.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
And does he have stuff in mind that he wants
to say or ask? Do you think maybe yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I think for him, I think he just wants you know, again,
And with the book coming out, it's like I don't
want it to be about him. Yes, there are stories
about him, but I also think, you know, he has
a right to not be defined by certain headline and
stuff like that. So I think it's just creating again
(46:04):
growth instead of like just turning, you know, letting the
publications take certain excerpts from the book and then turn
it into something that it's like this is actually where
it's at and like, yes, that was a story from
a while ago, but you know, and turning that into
a more positive spin. And also, you know how we've
(46:28):
been able to and not well at you know, not
well at times a couple of weeks ago, it's just like, yes,
I just got triggered from our past because you said this,
and it's like it's that's a that's a full time
job too, like taking emotions from past triggers with us
and co parenting the kids and not letting those come up.
(46:48):
It's hard. So I think how we've you know, talking
about how we've been able to manage that still young
and new at it. I'm hoping ten years from now
it's even light years better, but hopefully that could be good.
And then you know, he's he's starting, you know, he
has a business and he's you know, I think I
will always promote people, especially the you know, father of
my children that may need help to you know, grow
(47:11):
his business. So it's like I look at it as
a way where it's growth on all angles. I think
it's mature and wonderful to have the conversation I think
it is when you say it used to you know,
he used to this used to be his podcast too.
I think all of that makes a lot of sense.
I really do. I think it shows the maturity. I
(47:32):
I think it's great, just not sure what I I'm
just not sure.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Where I would be.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
All right, Well, there's time to think about it. But
without being wildly like I get really like, you don't, yeah,
mess with my friend, So I don't and I know
he's not. Yeah, well there's nothing he can do now,
you know. Now it's like that's the.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
So that's hard for me still because well, again, I
think it shows like how people can like there's so
many people that can relate to the situation and like
and I do think he can be changed. I think
he can grow. I think it could be two guys.
I was married before, we were not we Some people
are just not good for each other or bring out
the best in each other. It's like chemical or whatever.
(48:19):
That I get it. So we'll take a beat on that.
I'm going to see what the wind down listeners also
want to, because again, this is something that they're you know,
this is this is for you know all, it's all
likes see how we all feel. Okay, let us check
everybody's temperature with that, so you guys later, he
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On today's podcast, we are going to have the great
debate on which side of the bed do you sleep
and do you have a regular end this video that
went viral on TikTok with this TikTok couple are there?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Because I really thought you were gonna be in your
bedroom when we got on. It's what made you famous.
So I'm going to need you guys to take us
to where you sleep and lay down and get a try. So,
I mean, are you as shocked as kind of? I mean,
look when I saw the rundown, I'm like, wait, what
(00:39):
what is this? Like what I mean you just were
talking about your bed position sleeping.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Yeah, it was definitely shocked. We usually post DIY content.
We do DIY renovation and home decor. Very rarely do
I ever talk into the camera like that. But we
had a conversation with two of our friends. I don't
know how it came up, but like sleeping arrangements came
up and we mentioned how we don't have a regular
(01:09):
side of the bed. We just sort of switched it
up and they were so freaked out by that and
the reaction was so funny that I thought, oh, I'm
just going to post that on TikTok and see what
other people say. It's as crazy as ever as our
friends said. And I definitely did not expect it to
get the response that it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Did because it does not seem that interesting to us.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But yeah, okay, so walk us through the TikTok like
just like kind of describe it for people that haven't
seen it and are listening to this and are like, Okay,
hang on a second, we need to know what's happening.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yes, So the TikTok, I'm literally just telling the camera
that we don't have a regular side of the bed.
Last night, I slept on that side of the bed.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
The night before I.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Slept on this side of the bed. It's not something
we talk about. We just kind of randomly choose and
is just as crazy as everyone thinks it is.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It was like a twenty second TikTok and we got
like nine thousand comments, and we were on Insider magazine
and ABC News and we got like hundreds of stitches
and some of those stitches got millions of views. So yeah,
I just kind of exploded from a very simple fact.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's what's so interesting about TikTok because I feel like
some videos are like low and then the next they're like,
you know, million million views, and I'm like, the algorithm
makes no sense to me, nor like even the topics
of certain things, because I you know, I'm sure you
would have expected something else to probably get higher likes
or whatever. And then but I feel like people, well,
I don't know. I mean, I don't really it's not
(02:42):
really a thing. I mean, it's just kind of like,
that's your side, and that's your side. So I call
it the murder side and the non murder side of
the bed.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
So the closest to the.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Door is the murder side. So I'm like, if anyone
ever never said that, you're going to go first, and
so I make my husband sleep on the murder side.
Oh the door.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
There were so many comments about that.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
We never even thought about, like if if there was
an intruder, who's going to get attacked for it didn't
cross our minds.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But it should be.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You, Skylert, should be you.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
But here's the question.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Our bed is the door is right here and on
the other side is a window.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So I don't know, Well, that's the robber side, not
the murder side.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Okay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
While they get a little and feels like you get
a little more of a heads up, you know, so
I like the robbers. You can hear I can hear
the window.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh got it right? So wait, so y'all don't even
talk about it, Like so whoever goes to bed first
just kind of decides where they want to sleep and
then the other person goes on the other side, or
do you go to bed at the same time, and
it's just like, see what happens.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
You got a bed at the same time, and whoever
gets in versus who dictates what side of the bed
they're sleeping on. And I don't think we've ever discussed it.
It's just always been this, I guess, quirky habit we've had.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I think a couple of times, like sometimes I, let's
say I'm on one side of the bed for a
couple of days or a week, which is a lot,
and then all of a sudden I switched.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Skyler will be like, oh, like, not that side anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Like occasionally we'll bring it up if like we've fallen
into a certain pattern, but it's just I mean, we've
been together for ten years.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
This is so regular. It's not something that we.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You guys, we've been on the road for like a year,
and we have our sides in the bed and we
have our sleeping arrangements and we turn into a hotel room.
We know who's sleeping with you on what side?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What about like your bedside tables, like your stuff on
your bedside table.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We don't have stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, well, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
The same phone chargers was another thing that people talked about.
We have like the same phone charger, and like we
have stuff in our nightstand drawers.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
But we don't access it nightly.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like all of our skincare stuff, all of our bedtime
routine stuff is in like the bathroom and our vanity,
Like we don't do anything in bed to get ready,
because that was another big comment that people.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We don't do that any there. But like, so then
you're not fighting over chargers. It's kind of nice. We're
always like who.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Took my ar? It's like the bed equivalent of a whiteboard.
You're just like, see what we do here every single night.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
But if you so, obviously you have your side of
the bed Christian, Yeah, Janna.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Obviously there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But when you go to like a hotel, do you
ever switch it up? Or do you stay with the
same side of the bed when you go to a
hotel or some or sleep somewhere different.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I stay on the same what do you non murder?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god? You okay, we will we will switch
it up in like a like a different place, not
even not even thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's content the layout of the room, like.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If there's a like not that's her, not me. I
have never thought of a murder side. I just if
I'm in a hotel, it's different. So I'll sometimes just
pick the other side of the bed on.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Murder side though that's the well. In the old house,
I was on non murder side, but it wasn't the
right side of the bed. But now right side of
the bed here at the rental and the new house
will be by the door, so I'll be on murder side. Well,
I give you. I vote you most likely to handle anybody,
Especially when I heard a noise and I was like,
get up, get up, and I was like grab the gun,
(06:04):
and I think he was so uncomfortable, like holding the
gun down. I'll take care of this. I was like,
Michigan's side really sneaks out. Yeah, I was like, give
me the gun. Do you guys have animals? Do they
play into this? What do we have? What name all
the heartbeats that exist in the bed nightly? So I
know the players and pieces we're working with here, all.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Right, I'm Angelena. This is Skyler, our cats. Could actually
see them in the background. That's Blue and Bree, and
Blue usually likes to sleep next to me and Bree
likes to sleep next to Skyler, so they sort of
switch with us.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
You switch side.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I know they're like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Our habitat is rocked funny?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're probably so confused. So okay, so you do DIY stuff.
What is what is one of your favorite DIY things
that you like to do?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I mean I think some of my uh, some of
the content that's done the best and that we.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Like showing is just our whole house renovation.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
We bought our house in twenty twenty and it's the
nineteen fifties house and was a big fixer upper, so and.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
We renovated it all just the two of us.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So we sort of documented that whole journey of doing
everything rehaving the floors, knocking down walls, and then the
decoorse stuff came later, which is also fun, like painting
and wallpaper and all that type of fun stuff. So
I just I love showing the transformation, the big transformations,
but we also do the small transformations too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Were you, guys di Wires before you bought this house?
Like did you? Are you savvy and knowing what you're doing?
Because we could buy anything and we would have no clue.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I build houses for a living, so for me.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, it's work.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, I hate it's work, and I'm like clumsy, not knowledgeable,
not crafty at all. So together he was sort of
the expert teaching me how to do things, and then
I learned as we went along. But yeah, this was
all totally new to me, not my well love expertise whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's why Skyler's face was a little like frozen. When
you're like it's so fun, He's like, is it now?
Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Because you build houses, is there one thing? So I'm
moving into a new house that I built in a
couple of weeks, is there one thing that I'm like
I should have? Well, I probably I'm like, what should
I have? Done better with But like, is there anything
that like I need to look out for with the building,
even though I mean this is not my second build,
but like, is there something where I should like check
(08:30):
to make sure before I head into the house.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
If it's all new, you you should be good. I mean,
it's all just standard.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Maintenance from that point, cool air filters in the air
conditioner and you know, flush out the water heater every
couple of years. But it's just I mean, if it's
all new stuff, then you should be good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Guys, I haven't flushed anything in two years. Water the
air filters are always I always find it.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
It depends where you live to Like, our water is
very hard, so there's a lot of calcium deposits stuff
like lines.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Apparently ours is.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think ours is too. I don't know that we've
done that either, but I know that's on my list. Actually. Yeah,
so like thoughts of the next TikTok that's going to
be so random and go viral again, Like you'll have
any ideas any Like.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
We were like thoroughly discussing like what other weird habits?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, like what else is weird about y'all?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I mean we're very normal people.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So we didn't think this was that weird. So maybe
we're not normal, So maybe you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Maybe there's not normal. That's not normal. I need to
say it. You've been reiterated by thousands and millions, But.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Did you have anyone say that they do that as well,
like anybody.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yes, we've had comments. I think like one percent. There are.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
There are people, especially as big as it gets, there
are more people commenting like, oh, that's us too. But
the vast, vast majority are people calling us serial killers.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
There is something wrong with you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But I'm the one that has a murder side. Do
you have places that you watch TV, like when you
sit down at the couch? Is that a free for
all too? I mean, I just feel like your whole
life's real willy nilly At this point I need to
know like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's a free for all.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's all yeah, Like we don't have a spot at
the kitchen table, we don't have a spot on the couch.
Sometimes when we're watching TV, you know, because there's a
chase part and then there's like the couch part. Like
in the middle of watching something, we'll look at each
other and we'll be like, let's switch, you know, because
there's like there's depending on where you are in the couch.
You know, my shoulder might start hurting on this side,
so I need to.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If I tried to take the chase part of our couch,
I might there might be a divorce attorney involved, like
I have, I've married a creature. We like he has
a habitat you know, yeah, not us. Well, congrats on
the TikTok and I hope that you know, it's it's
(10:52):
a good promotion to for everything else you guys got
going on. So that's awesome, and we will now follow
along where can our listeners fall along to see if
there's any more weird things that pop up.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yes, on TikTok and YouTube, we are renovating our home
and then on Instagram we're underscore renovating our home.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Cool, awesome, Well, thank you so much for coming on. Bye,
Sweet Dreams. You know what I was thinking about when
they were talking about it was like and not that
Like I mean, Alan is a very cleanly person, like
he showers all the time, but like it's just I
want to lay in like their spot, I don't know,
(11:29):
and again it's like I lay on top of them
or like we like do all the things, but like
I wouldn't want to, like it's like.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, it's like they're spot and they're like, yeah, I
wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't know. Yeah I would do that level unless
you're like changing the sheets every day for some reason
that that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Don't even like to take his pillows, Like sometimes our
pillows will get mixed up and I'm like, no, no, no,
that's your pillows.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Because I have It's like I don't know. It's like
a still yeah, and there's like a smell still not that,
not again, not that, but because he doesn't he always
smells great, but still still and I like my outside
but yeah, they say that. I can't remember what it was.
But there was something about like how your skin sheds
and you actually should wash your sheets more than what
(12:14):
the two weeks. Okay, that would be my question. How
often are you guys changing sheet? Well, not as often
as same.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I should, probably not as often as I should.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Either it goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I feel like it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That's what happens with the air filters too. Unless I
have like the maid coming every two weeks, then I'll
leave the sheets out. But sometimes I'm like, oh shoot,
because they don't wash the sheets. They're just like leave
them on the bed. But if I forget and I
don't have an extra set, and I'm like, oh, it's fine,
just leave it, and then it's like a month. So
I'm sure this will shock you. But I don't like
the way people make my bed. No shock, no shock.
So I have to make my bed.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you have cleaners come and tell them not to make.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Your bed yep, I literally say, don't touch the master bed.
Here's my problem though, which I will agree, which drives
me crazy is if I end up using if I
end up using cleaners again, which I most will, but
they never make the bed the same each time. And
I want to take a picture and be like please
because I have to now go back take off the
sheets because they use the wrong sheet, like what's supposed
(13:10):
to be like my duvet cover. They use it as
like the bench cover, and I'm like, no, it's not
the right sheet. Like listen, I don't my own husbands,
their own interior designers.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, just like yeah, no does too.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Plus we have like very definitive sides, like I have
a shocking again, a weighted blanket franksiity on my side,
and I'm always like in a snowsuit with seven layers
of comforters, and his side is like fan in the face.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's our room.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So it's a little like we even have like different
blankets sometimes because if I have my big thick one on
because we change them a lot are comforters, then he'll
like literally push my thick one over and just get
a thin one for him. And then if the cleaners come,
it'll be like thick one and thin one and like
all of them because they don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, and then I'm tired and pissy. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
this just doesn't go here. I know, hashtags, I mean
that doesn't bother. Listen. I've been trying to so I
have asked for help, right, Oh good. Remember when I
had a mental breakdown last week, I got a lot
of support online. Oh good, I g FAM really supported me.
I had a vulnerability hangover bad. After that, I was like,
I cried, why am I you know?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh you're good.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I have gotten cleaner's back.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Good.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Does that help you or stress you out?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
More?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So far, I think I'm just at a point where,
like I have realized I'm only one human, so like,
any help is great good and I have a great cleaner.
Got it from Sarah Bryce. Actually, oh no, no, anybody
I ever give her she has a problem with right,
But then any person she ever gives me ends up
(14:43):
being a problem like that. She ends up like oh
I ended up not liking this, or I ended like, oh,
I know, because she gave me a woman, I have
to say a different name, right, can I should I
not use your name? Different name Judy, Judy Judy. Sorry,
she's great, but the kids you're gonna, oh, for babysitting
or cleaning, So no, for like babysitting, she's like a grandmother.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
You're gonna love Judy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Let her in, she's gonna be awesome. And then I
literally am like opening the door for Judy, and I
get a text from Sarah don't let Judy. Hey, by
the way, I meant to tell you, Judy is a
no go. I'm like, well she did that to me too,
standing in front of me, so we're gonna have to
She gave.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Us a babysitter, and I used her for a long
time and she was like, oh yeah, I didn't like her, Babby.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
No, Okay, I'm changing names. I don't know because you're
changing sure, Babby, and had like the whole summer thing
planned out and then she canceled, like a day before
school got out, that she couldn't watch the kids over summer,
and like I had planned it with for like mikes
weeks two, like to help out Simon or not very unreliable.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, the one I used was very reliable. I loved her.
But then Sarah came back and was like, yeah, no,
and I was like, oh, I love her. I've been
using her.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Did her name ryme with Mary?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Because that was another one that's hair game. And I
just need to go on record for saying that I
teed her and I up with the tutor that I
thought might be helpful for the kids this summer because
I was like, I was super pregnant, brand new baby,
maybe like just a couple hours a week with this teacher,
and the teacher ended up bailing on both Sara and
I after talking from February to May about the plans.
So we're one for one there. Well, Sarah had called
(16:22):
me the other day and she's like, hey, so, what's
your hair girl's name? I go, Nope, I won't do
it to the hair girl.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I'm not going to do it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I was like, I love you, but nope, because anybody
that I've ever sent her, she's like, well I don't
like this. I'm like, that's fine. The problem is I
don't like doing but she can do her own hair,
I know. But then she always complains about her I know.
But since she knows what she's doing, she's extra. Yeah,
but like the flashes that like I gave her my
my last cleaning lady and like she was my clean
(16:52):
lay is awesome. I think she's so good she's yeah,
and so they just never mind. I won't say that
it's mean, but well no, I just like every time
I have to record, that's when they want to like
really loudly talk, and it's hard because I'm like working
from home too, right right, you know what I mean.
(17:13):
So then they don't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, No, you will cut that. I'm just saying, they're
very loud. Anyways, we're gonna cut that. Okay, so cutting
that is. But no, but anytime like I gave her
like my cleaning lady, she like there was like, oh,
she didn't wash the inside of the top corner of
(17:38):
the my and I'm just like, they might have missed
that spot. That's way back to Sarah. And I read that,
I was just like, no more. And then her people,
I'm like, no, I'm good. Well, if I ever mean
to them or like ever say anything negative about anybody
that knows my address, I think that's like a good
rule with them, like you know where I live. So
I'm just always like, great job today and I just reschedule. Yeah, yeah,
(18:03):
but but no. Good Old Sarah Bryce got a lover.
She's literally the most unintentionally funny person I've ever met.
She's great, She's so good anything something's really important. When
she's calling you at seven in the morning while I'm
getting the kids all ready for school and I'm like, hey,
I call it seven's with Sarah, I wonder and I'm like,
oh Jesus, she or the life. No. When she goes
(18:25):
call me and I'm like thinking, oh God, something like
really happened. And then she's like, when did I lose
our passport? Again? I was like, your passport and it
was is that what?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, thinking she said nine one she did.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
She was freaking out and then it was like, hey,
do you remember when I was like, oh lord.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Sarah, I thought someone died, Like anyways, well this just
became I don't even know what happened. Take a break
and then we'll come back on with something else. All right, Kabi,
(19:08):
what do you got? Oh? Laughing, not crying. That's refreshing.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Hu.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I surprised my husband. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, okay,
with a what guys, this is actually kind of awesome.
So I surprised my husband with a staycation in Franklin
because it was fifteen minutes down the road from the
new baby. I just teed us up really wisely. At home,
we have had a night do look come for the baby,
so I could feel extra reassured there. I had Miss
(19:36):
Ashton with the kids, and she's nice and OCD and
great and so I loved that. And I brought his
best friend from home down as a surprise. So his
best friend and his wife came and they met us
at dinner and it was just nice because they're not industry,
and it's he doesn't with travel get to see his
people enough, and that's kind of like how he plugs
back in and he doesn't have to be on because
(19:57):
they're just as homies, you know. Can I just say
little caveat? Yeah, you always say that you want to
just be with like you and him. You don't get
you and him time. So was introduced or to having
that friend come in? Was that like was this for him? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Just for him, just for him?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Got it? Got it, got it.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was gonna just do the night us and I.
That was great, but I just know a little nice
thing for him.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, like it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's also kind of like sneaky for me though, because
I was getting a hotel and my kids, like I
didn't have to wake up and we were gonna have
breakfast in bed. So yeah, So the next morning we
get up, it's like six thirty and he's waking me
up and he's like, we we should probably get on
we should get out of here and head home. And
I'm I get six thirty. I've never seen this man
up before six thirty unless he has a flight, you know.
(20:41):
So I say okay, and I'm trying not to take
it personal, but the story I'm telling myself is like
I guess, like just not attractive. We don't want to
do anything this morning, like, I'm confused because we don't
have kids, and I'm in your oversize. Sure, and that's it, you.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Know, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay. So he's like, baby, let's just get some coffee.
And it keeps going, Baby, you look real hot. Let's
go get some coffee. And I'm like, but if I
look hot, then get over here, you know, because you're cleared. Yes, yes,
oh yes, yes, yes, yes for four weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It was the same week his parents came to visit. Okay, okay.
So anyways, he's moving me along and I can't quite
figure out why he's moving me along. I'm trying not
to take it personal, almost like okay, whatever. So we
go downstairs, say hi to the friends, grab coffee, and
he's kind of rushing me, and he goes, I have
to tell you something. Belly sinks, right, because I'm always
just waiting for the worst. He said, you surprised me,
(21:36):
but I was actually surprising you. So we have a
flight out this morning, and the reason I'm rushing new
is because we really have to be on our way
to Bna by like nine point thirty at the latest,
and we still have to get back home so that
you can grab a change of clothes, and I said,
can I know where we're going? And he said, you can't. Ah,
I know. So next thing I know, I'm landing in
(21:57):
Detroit to see the Cubs play Detroit time yours. This
is Michael Caprera's last season, and I wanted to get
to the game.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Rose up from home plate and we got to date
and drink beer and eat nachos, and he rooted for
the Cubs and I rooted for the do That was
so cute. It was really wonderful. Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So his manager, our doula, the babysitter, all calling at
the Friend's episode, the one with the double surprise, because
everyone was bending, that's amazing, that's so creat When did
you come When did you come back? Yesterday morning? So
you were gone for how many nights? Two nights total
in Detroit? No one night? Okay, Yeah, he knew his limits,
(22:44):
and he actually panicked because he thought, that's two nights
away from the baby. She's not going to do that.
And everyone was going, I didn't know if I should
tell you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm glad that you can do it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's good. I did it. It took a beer, but
I did it.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Into a hotel for me for our like one year
back together or whatever. Yeah, but I woke up that
morning feeling like death, and I slept pretty much the
entire time in the hotel day and night.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I kept I'd wake up, but I'd go.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm really sorry, babe, I'm really sorry. It's like, it's fine, honey,
I just went back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He as fine, as he's writing in his diary. Oh
what did he do when you were sleeping?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He literally watched I fell asleep, but I mean we
would like watch something, and then I mean we got
dinner and ate in the room. We were going to
go to dinner, but he just he walked and got
dinner and brought it back, and then he was watching
a football game and then like went to bed early.
I woke up at like nine thirty. He's like, all right, well,
I'm gonna go to bed, and I was like, no,
I'm up. But I only stayed up for like an hour,
(23:41):
Like I was so tired. I just did not feel
good and I felt we got massages. We did also
get massage, okay, so it was great. It was just funny.
I felt terrible I was like, I'm so sorry, but
it was also just nice to sleep.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I know, there's a lot that hinges when you do
like a one night it feels a little like pressure too.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, you know that. He was great about it. Because
I kept saying I'm so sorry. He was like, it's
totally fine. I mean, it was fine. It was nice.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Alan and I have never done a vacation together. That's sad.
It's okay, We're going to get there. No we haven't.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
We'll get there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah. We were thinking about doing a baby moon in October,
but there's just so much going on that I'm like,
I don't even know if I have time. Yeah, it's tricky.
It's just a tricky time of year. Yeah, I know.
So we'll figure it out. But I would like, you
can make it work. You did a baby moon, and
I'll be honest, I kind of want a refund. It
was great, but like I was so sick.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I know, and it was amazing, but I just kept thinking, gosh,
I would have we should like I wanted to have.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Born moon.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I'm going to be full steam ahead, like work,
you know, like wanting to work and travel to like, yeah,
pay for three kids.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like just warning, let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But no, I think there's a piece of me too
that has a little bit of like a negative taste
of the baby moon because I know the stuff that
happened with my like ex like right before, like when
we had discovery. One of the things he told me
happened a week before that our baby moon in la
which I thought was like the most magical trip we
(25:23):
had and we were in like we went to the
montage in Laguna Beach and I'm like, wait, a week
before you were X, Y and Z, Like I just
I don't know it like kind of like tainted then,
like that baby moon was like the biggest like even
though they say, like you know to hold like what
was happening in the moment was real, but it still
(25:44):
like taints it a little bit. Yeah that's you know.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, so do you want like a do over?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, And then like for Jase, we didn't really do one,
Like it was like a let's not because I was
so scorned by the like baby moon name that I
was like, let's not call it it. But we went
to like a pool and right, I'd like, but we
didn't like travel or vacation for it. So a piece
of me is like, do I want to do over
or like I never had a baby moon before this one,
(26:11):
and this one was kind of a honeymoon baby moon.
It was our first trip ever just the two of us,
and we've been together eight years. Yeah, well, and I
never had honeymoon either, shockingly, so so of all the
so I feel like, maybe we don't even have to
call it. I wouldn't have even called ours a baby moon,
but the resort did when they found out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Remember if I had, I don't even remember. I'm sure
we traveled, but I never like made it like this
big thing. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know, did you guys ever see a thing with
Kelly Clarkson in the Push Present? How people were like, oh,
you know, she was like, I never got a push present.
(26:56):
I should have known that she was joking. People were
started to be mean, being like, you know, you being
like thinking that she was being what's the word? Yeah,
she said she never got one, yes, yeah, And then
she's like, I should have known when I never got
a push present, like basically, but that people were saying
(27:16):
like that she was being what.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Is the word feels no, it feels.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Disingenuous now it's at that game a word, what's that
game like?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Not reading the room like I got to know it?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like I love her too, But I felt.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That way a little bit when I read it, really like.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
That she was being what's the word like pretent No,
not pretentious.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's like there's plenty of people that don't get pushed
present like she wanted to diamond and be like okay,
like really you're married. But again, I love her not
trying to talk whatever. And I don't think that that
was necessarily her intention, but it did feel very like
not pretentious, but something like that. You know, it just
felt very like, Okay, plenty people don't get push presents
(28:04):
like that. Shouldn't be mean that your marriage was doomed
because you didn't get right.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I think she was joking when she said it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, I think she.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Was having said that. I would say, and this is
actually very interesting for you to say this because you're
a gift girl. I am so you like gifts, like
gifts is your love language. Absolutely so, And I'm not
a gift girl. But for carrying your child for nine months,
I want a gift.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I want a little and I'm not saying I want I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Confused the bush presents the human.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, see, I don't know, I the.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Gift of life. Can I get us back on track?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think i'd be mad
about I don't remember if I get.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Mad, But I think I would like it to be
like here's the nine months even hurled over a toilet
and like feeling sick and not being able to eat
hardly anything, and like you know what I mean, and
just like a nice pretty little maybe like a little
ring with like the birth speaking, like the birthstones of
all three kids. That would be really cute. Okay, okay,
(29:11):
are you going to text it's for everyone? But I'm
just saying it's not like something that. Again, I wouldn't
be upset. I think it's just a nice gesture. Oh yeah, no,
I won't be mad. I'm not going to say our
marriage or is going to be doomed because he doesn't
give me a busch present. I'm just saying it's I
think it's a nice gesture. I agree, gesture gesture.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I agree. I think my was just saying. When I
read her saying it, I was kind of like, oh,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Think I would have said that but as a gift girl,
why do you not want that?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I didn't say don't want it? I said I didn't.
I said I felt that way when she said that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
But you don't care. You wouldn't care about anyone because
you haven't, right all I have?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember, honestly. No, that's the thing.
I know. I can't remember if I got it. What's
the third? Honestly, ca, which is terrible. It was probably
something so great, and I just can't think about it
right now. I just I am a gift person. I
just that one. I don't know wouldn't bother me that
(30:12):
much for it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Because you're distracted by the immense amounts of healing that
you're doing that you're not thinking about.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I don't even remember. But honestly, I probably put him
through so much craft when I was pregnant that, like, really,
I was so sick and probably made him do everything,
and did I probably made him do everything?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Were you ever snippy?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Okay, were you? Were you because hormones and pregnant?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Right? Well?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Sure, yes.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Said this to be pregnant woman over.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Here, Yes we do, Janna, Well, we all snippy. I
was very spicy this pregnancy. Yes, you were to you.
I'm always nice to you.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
What did I say?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Was I snippy somewhere in saying but like you were
snippy with breast?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Look at me, you guys?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Kind of so like to ask her if she was.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Like, okay, let me rephrase.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Okay, you know some women are like truly miserable pregnant.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
You know, well, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna point both.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Y'all out, but you know how y'all Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So I didn't get to see you pregnant ever, and
I wondered if you were like I.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Would take me as someone that would be like I
was not necessarily as snippy as I was, just like
sick and miserable and made him do everything. Okay, And
I'm really thinking back to my last one the most, obviously.
So we had two kids, and I was like, take
these children away from me while I sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Like, you know, the joke is always about pregnant women,
like we're so hormonal and we rage out and all
these things.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I don't think I was a rager, No, I just
felt really really bad. Yeah, And so I felt for
him because it's like that was a lot on his plate,
especially if you're having a third I mean that's a lot. Yeah,
but I probably got a push present. I just don't remember. Sorry,
I'll i'll ask him later. I don't remember the third one.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Probably helped him get it for you, probably, Yeah, can
you get through your text chain? What did you get?
I got this Tiffany bracelet with three little diamonds for
three little babies. Oh see, that's cute, sweet and like delicate.
But you would have been fine just having the gift
of line. Yeah, I never got I didn't get push presents.
I was so excited. I'm like, this is what they
look like. H Yeah. I don't think Allen knows it
(32:29):
there and he doesn't listen to this podcast. So can
we talk about Scottish verse versus American on Instagram? Sure?
Because I'm a host. And then somebody sent me and
crossed gream and I'm so sorry that there's a sentence
that literally Scottish people cannot say the purpurple Oh he can,
he can.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We did it on my TikTok. Is it purple purple
burglar alarm? And he can do it, he can. It's
just the way they say burglar is funny. Oh, like
it's I can pull it up. I'm gonna pull it
up on my TikTok. But no burger burger burg But yeah, no,
it's just it's it's how they say, like the actual
(33:13):
Oh sorry, let me see here.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That said.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Scottish people can't say purple burglar alarm. I'm going to
go test it on the boyfriend. Okay, say that four
times fast, as fast as you can four times.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Purple bug let alone, purple bugle it alone alone alone.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You did it better than I could do.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah. I couldn't say anything four times fast though. Yeah, okay,
but no, that was funny. I got a good laugh.
Swimming costume, That's what it was. Swimming cost the first
time he said that because I had heard that one
obviously before. I see that's like, are you gonna bring
your swimming costume? And I'm like what He's like, you're
(34:04):
swimming costume? And I'm like, explained, because a costume to
me is when you dress up in Halloween. So what
does he think Halloween is?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Does is there are those? Just I've never asked. We
need to know because it's on your list. It's a
bathing suit or a swim suit. Yeah, yeah, a swimming
costume like that was like as if I'm going to
be Michael Phelps for Halloween. Yeah, it was interesting. I
really enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. It was all good. Yeah,
we're gonna do maybe a few more of those because
(34:33):
they were fun. I love you, But I guess that's it. Yeah,
I'm good. You know, just breathing over there, just breathing.
Is he kicking? He's kicking. Oh, he's a soccer player.
Gousie's a soccer player. So girls, are you gonna say
something bad to us? No? I do have a question.
(34:56):
I don't like the look in her eyes. Cat So
So I had a conversation with someone about coming on
the podcast. Oh no, and it wouldn't be until October,
(35:20):
But would you guys want to be on the podcast
when this person comes on the podcast? I was thinking
of doing a like part series with it, because obviously
my book is coming out in October, and he has
not really shared his side of things, and I think
(35:43):
when one side comes out, it's important to hear the
other and then also to maybe, you know, talk about
how we've been able to move on co parenting, what
he's up to things like that, and I was thinking
about it, and because we had the conversation the other
(36:05):
day when he was driving me back from some things
I needed to ride with the kids, and he brought
it up and we just discussed it and I said, OK, right,
let me just kind of like wrap my mind around this.
I was like, well, I think Mark would for sure
want to be on and we can maybe have that
as like a thing where like I ask listeners if
(36:28):
they have any questions or if they want to know something,
and Mark can kind of ask those questions and then
we can do like a Thursday episode of like co parenting,
and then another one would be with you guys. But
if you're not comfortable, I wouldn't put you on the spot.
(36:48):
Then I'm putting you on the spot now because I
want to know so I can just like because it's
a lot to like process and plan in my brain too,
I feel that myself. What undecided?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What did he say? Does he know that there's an
option of having well aka me in the room? I
don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Take it, I'll just say he took a really big
deep breath.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, I don't think he'd want me in a room.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
With him, so does he want But he didn't say, no, huh,
what do you want me in a room? Well, I said, well, hey,
like obviously I do my podcast with Kristen and Catherine,
so like, you know, maybe like the first one it's
just like Mark and you and I, and then the
part two is with the girls, and then the third
(37:35):
is like you and I again and with just like
co parenting and like you know what he's doing now
and you know, support whatever he's kind of going, you
know what he's doing. And again it's like it's something
that I know I'm bringing. I'm going to talk to
my therapy therapist about it because it is still like
there's still so many, so many layers too to it.
(37:55):
So it's like to but yeah. But then when I
was like, well, and you know Kristen and Catherine, it
could be in the episode two, and he just went
so he didn't say yes or no, and which then
to me goes, okay, well let me lego. Let me
(38:16):
just kind of wrap my mind around this because I
think it's I see like the pros and cons, and
I see I also think too, you know. He this
was also his podcast too, and so people listened and
maybe they want to also have or hear sure something
(38:38):
from him, you know, or like a because I don't
think it's let's take anybody that misses Mike. Raise your
hand now, just saying so, I just would you guys
be comfortable or do you need time to think about it?
Because you said you need I would say I need
a minute, okay, I would like to. I mean I
have seen him one time since then, I haven't seen
(39:02):
him as often as probably you have, Kat, I just
need I would say I need a minute. I feel
fully like there is a place that you guys exist
in my brain that I feel really good about. That
I kind of always saw in YouTube. Do you remember
me saying to you like, I always thought you guys
would be really good friends or better friends than a couple.
(39:27):
So there's a part of me that sees him that way.
But then there's just a part of me that makes
me want to cry a little bit, like just witnessing
a lot of hurt for someone that I really love
a lot. So that's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I would do it. I just don't think he would
sit down with me, And I think that's also hurtful
and hard for me because I know how much he
hates me, and that's I know it's not about me,
but that also there is something there for me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Also, why do you think and like, I mean, I
would want to listen to that podcast because I'm sure
there's many people in that situation where like, and I
don't want to put you in a situation where you're
not comfortable, which is why I'm asking ahead of time. Yeah,
but like if you're not comfortable and you're like, I mean, like,
I would never put you in that situation. Absolutely having
said that, as like a listener, I'm sure there's many
times where friends are like would want to hear the
(40:21):
like friendship of the person because you were also you
guys were all also hurt in that situation and for
you to say, well, he hates me, I don't. Again,
it's like it was his own hatred. I believe that,
like it was never like, why do you think he
hates you?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I just I think that there's a lot of blame
he puts on me. I don't know. I think it's again,
it's not about me. But the times that I've seen him,
I see it in his eyes. He won't speak to me.
I've kept his child he won't bring her to me.
I mean, there's a lot of reasons. There's been a
lot of I would love to bury the hatchet with him.
(41:00):
I would love to be able to see him. I
would love to be able to tell him the things
that like, you know, we were friends too, you know,
and he you know, it's just that got ripped away
so fast, which is fine. I think we always side
with our friends. And it was hard, like you said,
to see her, but like there's probably just hurt on
both sides obviously, But I would I would welcome that conversation.
(41:23):
I just don't know that he would.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Do you think that he wouldn't because of the ownership
it would take for him to sit down with you,
because I don't know, I don't. Do you think he
would hate her? Listen, I mean Catherine was always the one,
and I you know, I wrote this even in the book,
like you told me to leave many times that I
would be like, but I never did, you know what
(41:48):
I mean? So he can't hate you for something that
like a never hap you know what I mean? And
only he can't. I think it's just again his own
actions because he can't look you in the eye knowing
all the things that you know that no one will
ever know true, you know, Yeah, that's hard. I think
it's his shame that he can't work you in the eyes. Yeah,
that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, and probably I know that there's you know, yes
that like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm saying, it might feel good for to him to
have you say.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
And there was there's things that I mean, I could
I've got things I would love to say to him.
I mean I think about it often actually, so I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So I don't know what would you say or what's
one thing that like what like, what do you want
to say to him?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I cared about him too, and so that doesn't just
go away. I think that you can care for someone
and then make the worst actions in the world, But
that doesn't make you, know a care, you know, caring
about someone to go away, and that at the end
of the day, I in my mind, I wasn't just
looking out for you, I was also trying to look
(42:56):
out for him. I felt like y'all were toxic together,
and that what was so frustrating because it became so
us against him, and I just want to explain to
him that it truly wasn't just this I hate Mike.
It was not It was y'all have to get out
of this. Y'all are not healthy, and I just don't
I understand why you wouldn't see it that way, but
(43:19):
I would love to be able to explain that to him,
because he wasn't happy either, you know. So it's like, again,
I did care about him, It wasn't just like you know,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Well, it wouldn't be until like October, so yeah, you
have some time to think about it. But I'm also
like when he mentioned it, it was like, Okay, I
kind of need time to like process because what I
don't want to happen is get him on and like
drudge up, Like I don't want a whole episode of
like because I'm like we're past that, but there are
(43:54):
still things that like need to like be flushed out
and then also you know, but not like stay in that.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's like, let's ask the questions I want. So it's
like I want to be very like mindful of if
there are any questions from the past, I do want
to ask that I don't know yet, you know. So
it's like I need time with that to like process
and then them like does that even matter? And like
do I want to put that really out? So it's
like I just need to like process that side too.
I do think I do think this is a healthy enough,
(44:28):
mature enough like you and I are healthy enough, mature
enough to like lead it to a good place. I
think we've always seen what could be good about him
and defended him or played Devil's advocate in times not defended. Sure,
So I don't think it for me, it's not like
this like flipping tables moment and that's what I'm afraid of.
(44:49):
It's just I just I don't know. I'm like, I'm
careful with my words even here. Well, I think that's why,
like you have to think about what you'd really wan
want to ask, because again I don't want to spend
time in the past because I don't think I have
any questions about that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I think it really should just be if there's something that.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Like I have one in the book when I was
doing the audio and I'm like, I was like, man,
I always kind of want to know that, you know,
And I'm just wondering, can I think it's something that
a lot of divorced women might also still wonder about
like their X. So it's something that I'm like, I'm
but I'm like, I don't know, I got it. So
it's like I got to sit with these things. So
(45:29):
it's like, find what you would want to ask if
that opportunity comes up.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
And does he have stuff in mind that he wants
to say or ask? Do you think maybe yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I think for him, I think he just wants you know, again,
And with the book coming out, it's like I don't
want it to be about him. Yes, there are stories
about him, but I also think, you know, he has
a right to not be defined by certain headline and
stuff like that. So I think it's just creating again
(46:04):
growth instead of like just turning, you know, letting the
publications take certain excerpts from the book and then turn
it into something that it's like this is actually where
it's at and like, yes, that was a story from
a while ago, but you know, and turning that into
a more positive spin. And also, you know how we've
(46:28):
been able to and not well at you know, not
well at times a couple of weeks ago, it's just like, yes,
I just got triggered from our past because you said this,
and it's like it's that's a that's a full time
job too, like taking emotions from past triggers with us
and co parenting the kids and not letting those come up.
(46:48):
It's hard. So I think how we've you know, talking
about how we've been able to manage that still young
and new at it. I'm hoping ten years from now
it's even light years better, but hopefully that could be good.
And then you know, he's he's starting, you know, he
has a business and he's you know, I think I
will always promote people, especially the you know, father of
my children that may need help to you know, grow
(47:11):
his business. So it's like I look at it as
a way where it's growth on all angles. I think
it's mature and wonderful to have the conversation I think
it is when you say it used to you know,
he used to this used to be his podcast too.
I think all of that makes a lot of sense.
I really do. I think it shows the maturity. I
(47:32):
I think it's great, just not sure what I I'm
just not sure.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Where I would be.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
All right, Well, there's time to think about it. But
without being wildly like I get really like, you don't, yeah,
mess with my friend, So I don't and I know
he's not. Yeah, well there's nothing he can do now,
you know. Now it's like that's the.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
So that's hard for me still because well, again, I
think it shows like how people can like there's so
many people that can relate to the situation and like
and I do think he can be changed. I think
he can grow. I think it could be two guys.
I was married before, we were not we Some people
are just not good for each other or bring out
the best in each other. It's like chemical or whatever.
(48:19):
That I get it. So we'll take a beat on that.
I'm going to see what the wind down listeners also
want to, because again, this is something that they're you know,
this is this is for you know all, it's all
likes see how we all feel. Okay, let us check
everybody's temperature with that, so you guys later, he
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