December 22, 2025 • 39 mins
This time of year, wives carry a lot of the burden when it comes to gifts and managing holiday plans. Jana, Kristen and Kathryn have some mom-venting time and try to manifest more help from the husbands.
We get into the potential of being addicted to GLP-1s and if people have a hard time stopping the medication.
Plus, Kristen has a gift giving hack that could save you some headaches this holiday!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's just all take a breath all together, whether you're
driving or vacuum with your little ear pods in, or
taking at your desk, or pat taking a bath. We're
sitting on this couch right now. I hope they're taking
a bath. Two three, right.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It does help.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think it really does.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Actually, I actually do. I came in a little hot
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Was like, okay, just kind of helps, did you feel
a little. It just kind of centers you. It does,
You're welcome. Yeah. No, that's like one of my favorite
things that I do in therapy because you know you're
going in, they're super hot and ready, and then it's
just like, let's just take a deep breath and then
it just kids in then and usually that's on the
(01:00):
the breath and the release of tears. Guys, everybody feeling
it is the you know it's almost here, right, It's
almost here.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That dramatic pause, I think was the podcast version. If
you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything
at all. I think that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's just this season, as much as you want to
love it, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's a lot for I do have a little hat
well sorry from from the what you don't want your
head like? You know what I mean. It's like I'm
not going to from the husband for the wife the wife.
(01:49):
But that's so true. It is the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's literally watering, and I'm not even.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I will say this part.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I mean, yes, yes, yes, There's never been a trio
of women trying so hard and all of time to
be sweet and steadfast and objective as the three of
us are today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I think a lot of women feel this way
around the holidays, and I don't think, just like the
conversation of the maids, I don't sometimes think they understand
what goes in to all of it, because I I
don't think they understand that all the little presents for
(02:31):
the teachers and getting those together. I don't know a
husband that has done that, do youar als Deeal's I
think you know the answer to that, yeah, no, or
that they even think that that is something that goes
along with it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean you would just I would have to lay
it out and say these are the things I need
you to get, which I did, and there was two
and he did you have two teachers to give gifts
to him. No, no, this isn't even teachers. I mean, two
gifts out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I haven't even gotten to yet. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh but same though I got and then I just
said can you know because he was like yeah, and
I don't. They haven't come yet, so I don't know
the status. But that was the two that I took
off my table.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, I took two off my list and he got them.
I'll give it that. But it's just and this isn't
even complaining about husbands at this point, It truly isn't.
It's like, maybe we put it on ourselves. Maybe we
know it would be done differently. I don't know, but
they have no idea. Yeah, they don't have the list
of Christmas they you know of, and maybe there are
(03:32):
some men out there that do. And that's great, And
there's a lot of men that probably have to. I mean,
you know, there are definitely men in situations who have to,
so I understand that they don't have to. We take
care of it all of the things, and if we
ask generally, I think all of our husbands will help
and we'll do and I do like to do. You know,
I like to be I'll admit I like to do
(03:53):
the presence. I like to be in charge of wrapping.
Sometimes I love rapping. I do.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean it just as I.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do something for myself every year. Maybe this will be
helpful for us or others. Every year, I lock myself
in our bedroom with all the gift wrap, and I
use my tushy cushy on the floor to aid in
the tailbone, and I just put on my Jessica Simpson
Christmas and all my sweet little Christmas playlists, and it's
just me and a hot coffee or a little tea concoction,
(04:24):
and I just it's my Like it's just so therapeutic
for me in there, and so it makes me and
I try to do it if I can during the
day at some point, yeah, so that it's not nighttime
and I'm tired and I'm like a million other things.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just try to make it like I did with
my laundry room.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Like I was overwhelmed all the time with laundry, and
now I've just made a little sanctuary, just like those
moments where you can just kind of anchor and just
be grateful and like you know you're praying over gifts
and you're being and listen, that's my only Hallmark tidbit
for today because the rest of me is just a
little bit toxic.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But for what it's worth, that is.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Something I do like doing, and it has been like,
it's something I look forward to now. Yeah, Preston's like,
I can hire someone to wrap the gifts this year
if that will be helpful to you. And I'm like,
actually no, because I got.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, and I like it, Like I I don't know,
I mean, I think for me, it's more than mental load,
of course it is. I'm just like, I know I've forgotten,
like you just brought up teacher gifts and I know
I needed to, but like, oh my gosh, right, yes, okay,
that's what's on my list I still need to do.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's the mental load of all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's you know, everyone's going which way and has Christmas
parties and has all this and they don't have that schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They don't know that schedule. That's all. It's just the
mental Yes, physical load.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Physical load doesn't bother me as much as the mental load,
I think is what i'man I'd agree, I.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Did do a little hack this year. I scooped.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I'm sorry for anybody listening that might have received one
of these non so thoughtful gifts from us. I scooped
like a ton of really cute mugs from Target that
were like the little Christmas tree with the topper, you know,
and like all the little ornament Starbucks hot Chocolate, like
one off little things and like teeny tiny little Disco
star ornaments whatever, and I just did.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And listen.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I know that not everybody has even the financial capacity
to do this, and I understand, but for me, it
was worth it to just go get like ten of
each of those things and just have like a little
bit of a I have a little box in my
garage right now and it's just punt in case of
emergency gifts mark so that I'm not feeling. And they're
all things I would want to receive, which I think
also matters. But man, it's like I didn't get anything
(06:27):
for Lions teacher. I didn't plan on it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
She's there like two.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Days a week, and we bear, you know, and has
she even been there two days a week because she's velcrow?
And then I go to her Christmas program and everyone's
toting in huge gifts and I'm like, well, shoot, so
it's a little box of goods.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It was, Yeah, I've done that before.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I feel I feel you though on that. It's not
the physical, it's the mental. Yeah, And I think that's it.
We love, we love doing the things. It's just the
mental does over load it and then it takes the
fun out of it. Yeah, And that's the bummer in it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And if you're in young kid mode, you're still in
preservation of the magic, which is a whole nother mental
file folder right now, because you're trying to I know,
I'm trying to keep up with where the gifts are
coming in from, right And if you're listening with kids now,
you should never listen to us with kids. You should
have learned your lesson by now. But if you are,
this would be a fine time for you to turn it,
because I'm also now moving elves every night, and I'm
(07:21):
making sure that these packages are not coming to our
house because what's been asked for from Santa. Everyone's got
a radar up a bit, you know, and so I'm
like just trying to make all these arrangements. And so
there's that whole thing too. It's a it's not like
a lying. I mean, it is right, but it's like
preserving the magic is what I'm calling it, and it's
like protecting that magic is really a whole nother file
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folder because you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Remember what you said and what you ordered. And we're
coming up what.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
They saw get delivered because I get everything delivered. So
I'm like, oh, right, note to self. She saw that
package that had the name on the outside, so that
has to be from me, can't be Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Exactly, I had a package coming yesterday. I thought, well,
that is no longer a stop and stuff her.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm pretty sure though, Ramseys figured it out, and she's
messing with me because she keeps adding things. She's like,
she keeps saying, now I want Santa, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Santa's done to finish, which is funny. Have the problem
with Jason, that's wrong with saying it. But he'll he'll
make up something. Yes, this is what does an imaginary toy? Yeah,
a dragon that shoots out this And I'm like, I
cannot find that. So he probably feels like the elves
(08:32):
can make I know. So that's that's the tricky point
that we're in right now. You're just on that sweet
I know. I love that. Guys. So, did anyone see
my New York trip at all?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean I saw your yeah, your stories.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you see my dinner? I did see your dinner.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Wait oh yeah, oh my gosh, I totally saw your dinner.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And I had a moment. I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I just I did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I had a moment I just.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I saw who it was. I guess it doesn't
It didn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh yeah, I knew the I saw the connecting pa
and I was like, well, that's just it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You never know, right, but I did, like ZOOMN. I
was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I don't know the girl though, Is that is
that true?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Her name is Rita. She's lovely, but I don't know
her right, No, Okay, I wondered that same thing. But
I know her name.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Maybe maybe it's through him or through you or something,
because I was like, gosh, I know this name, but anyway,
go ahead tell.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Us okay, so wild right, So I surprised Alan with
a trip to New York for his birthday and our
dear friend Adam Whitesman, who is a lovely man. He's
so sweet, such a generous like just he's such a
friend to so many people, but he just has such
a good heart. So I'd reached out to him because
(09:45):
we're you know, we're very all, very friendly. He loves Alan.
They you know, we've had breakfasts and lunches when we've
come to New York in the past. And I said, hey,
you know, I know I'm surprising Alan with his trip.
I think it'd be really fun. Would love to see
you on that Friday, because on his birthday Saturday, we're
going to do just a dinner with us, but would
love to see you on Friday, and again, have you
(10:07):
come to dinner with us? And He's like, okay, I'll
bring you know, I'll bring a friend. And I'm like great,
sounds awesome. So we go to this really amazing restaurant
called Sartiano's. I've never been there, but it's a really
cute little Italian place, and down walks this man and
I'm like, I know that face. You know, obviously I was.
I watched the Kardashians for years, right, and so but
(10:31):
I'm not going to be like, oh my god, you know,
so I'm like, I gotta keep it cool. I gotta
play it cool. So he comes down the stairs and
but he introduces himself, not as Jonathan. Oh, so how
does one to introduce himself? He goes and all my
friend Adam was like, this is my friend food God. No, no, nope,
(10:52):
uh oh, I don't think I think. I'm I wonder.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't know if your girl over here can handle
this kind of story.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And so I'm like, oh, well, I was wrong, you
know what I mean. So I'm like, you don't know him?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No? I didn't know his real name. I mean, I
had to think about it.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I know both, but I would never call myself well no,
that is another part was a kid, okay, continuing maybe
he's kidding.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So I'm like, so I'm thinking, sure, I'm not connecting
food God. I'm just thinking food God, you know, because
that's to me. So I'm like, well, I was way off,
you know what I mean. Who I saw this? So
I'm just like, okay. I was like, I'm sorry, can
you say that one more time? Like it's kind of
a loud restaurant. I'm like, and I was like okay,
And I was like, well, shit, I was wrong, you
(11:37):
know what I mean? But cool, nice to meet you,
you know, and that introduces me to his friend. We
go to the table and you know, I'm just like, no,
that is him, Like I know that's him. There's no
twin that looks exactly like Jonathan from the Kardashians, you know.
But like I'm like, god, I'm like, maybe that was his.
(12:01):
That was a given name, like before Jonathan. So I'm
really just an Alan and I have not had this conversation,
you know, because obviously we're all sitting at this table together.
And so then he goes to the bathroom and I
was like, so, how did how did do you know? Again,
I'm like I don't want to say the name again
because I'm like, fo god, you know what i mean. Like,
(12:22):
I'm like, I still don't know if I heard it correctly.
This is so good. This is so good, you know.
So and Grammer's this is really good. Registered would have
(12:43):
been amazing because again I'm just thinking, I'm thinking like again,
not food God, I'm thinking of food god, right, you
know what i mean? Like, and yeah, so I'm just like, so,
how long have you known? And she's like, oh, for
a long time. And then in the dinner he mentioned
(13:04):
something we were talking and I'm putting the pieces together.
And then he said when I was in the Kardashians.
I was like, okay, it's him. So then then I
was like, so, why did you change your name? You know,
like so I was like, so you changed your name,
and he said, I, you know, he wanted to not
be associated. He wanted to have a different association than
being Jonathan and I and I kind of get that piece.
(13:24):
I'm like, yeah, that makes total sense, like you want
to to differentiate yourself from that and and not just
be you know, Kim's best friend. And and he was hilarious.
He was friends. I don't think so I didn't think,
he said, but I didn't want to. I didn't want to.
I didn't want to. Like that was like I heard
they are not, Alan asked. He said, yes, but I'm
(13:48):
not like I didn't even want to go there, like
I'm pecting the space, of course, and I don't. I'm
not even going to say anything that was like spoken about,
you know what I mean, like respecting the space. I
love Adam, I respect him, I respect his of course.
I'm just more like with the name, you know, I
was so just so.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I knew food God from the Kardashians as well.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Though Oh see, I didn't really I didn't know he
called himself that on the show. Maybe it has always
been his Instagram. Okay, I never followed him, so I
didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I did either, So I don't really know how. But yeah,
I know it too.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But now that you say it, I remember them always
calling him Jonathan on the show.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But I think it's when he started to when he
started to tuning and what he felt good at.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Or like, yeah, and he became the food God. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Was just so funny because I'm like, I, so is
anyone referring him to dinner at all as Jonathan ever?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Just food God? I came that this is really tricky,
so so, but again, he was lovely. It was so
fun like he's such a sweetheart, you know, I loved
his friend, like, such a great time. And so when
we got in the car, it then didn't register it
to me, so I was like, well, look him up
on Instagram. That's when I saw, Oh, it's food God.
(14:56):
No food god, you know what I mean. Were you
actually saying it like that to him? Yes, that's how
it sounded. So I'm just trying to be respectful to
repeat back what it was, What a time. I mean,
he probably appreciated that you had no idea. Maybe I
don't know, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm sure he
(15:16):
probably you know, I saw that I registered it, but
I mean he was lovely. It was so funny and
I was just like, wow, this is this is hilarious.
But I so that was my and then we you know,
then Adam had because I'm like, I'm not posting shit,
you know what I mean, Like, I am not like
but I just thought that was funny. That just interaction
of the name and then knowing he's lovely and he.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Was so sweet good.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, it was a it was a really I love
how when you have moments like that where you didn't
know and we had talked talked about this too at
the table where when you don't know other people that
are coming, it could have been a nightmare, like if
the personalities didn't get along, it could have been bad.
But I mean it was such a nice It was
such a nice gathering. He didn't like my peak and
pit that I that I did, but besides that, we
(16:02):
spoke about it on a oh yeah and so but
besides that, it was Yeah, it was really funny, it
was a good time. Why didn't you like it? Because
he doesn't think people will follow through with it? And
I and I you know it's too interesting, it's but
I get it a lot. You know, I can't maybe
see you not liking peak and pits because you're like.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Like, actually the thought I'm actually doing it, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What are you gonna let go of? And it's like,
are you're really going to let go of it? You
know what I mean? Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, you guys, we are in I don't know if
you follow this, and I know I'll get whatever, I'll
get opinions.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But if you follow the Chinese zodiac at all, do you
follow that? You don't? I know nothing about it.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Okay, you need to and I won't expand, but everyone
does need to like kind of I think you would
identify and it would really feel validating if you read this.
We're leaving the snake here and we're moving into a
horse here, and it's really interesting how correct and validating
it feels to me. So the snake is like shedding
(17:12):
and leaving skin and decluttering and leaving behind things that
don't serve you and moving into which I think everybody
tries to do a little bit in December into January,
but it just felt a little more specific this year.
So yeah, I think that I think we can leave
all the pits and move to the peaks. I like
that it's going to feel good. I actually feel it coming.
(17:33):
But I also get like this before.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, it just feels very much like you're going to
a psychic and they're saying something that like would work
for everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
No, if that's why I feel like it gets detailed,
I'll look at it. I know.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I like that about you, though, I'm like, it's good.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And also when Adams said up to dinner, I feel
like it could be he has never known amazing friends.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But what a good dude. And it was a good
time and yeah, and then there was the tread was
New York was great? The right the way home was
was a bit show.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
But was it because of the snow coming in?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah? And it was one of those things where you
know when you just I I know better. This is
why I always take the first flight out. Yeah, It's
why I should have listened to my gut. And the
whole thing too, is Alan was going to be flying
to Belgium. But he was like, no, I'm going to
fly home with you for a couple hours and then
I'll fly out, you know, to Belgium in London or whatever.
(18:37):
So Belgium first and then he was going to London then
back to Belgium, and so you know, we were so
tight on that timeline. Anyways, that the night of his birthday,
I said, Hey, the snow's coming into New York. I
really think we should take that seven am flight out
and he's like, well, I don't want to wake up early,
and I'm like okay. I was like I don't have
a good feeling about this, and it's like I knew, Yeah,
(18:59):
I knew. So the second we got to the airport
at eight, it was okay, you have a thirty minute delay,
and then that delay went to one, two, three, four
or five, six, seven, eight, and they eventually canceled it.
But by that point all the other flights were sold out. Yeah,
and so I had gotten one seat on a United
out of Newark, which is where then his flight from
(19:20):
his original flight was Nashville to Newark, New work out.
So that's where we just went then to Newark, and
then we just then parted ways from there, so it
was just.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So, so you just have to go buy clothes for
a trip.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah. He had to, yeah, go buy all because all
he had was just you know, the New York stuff.
So but it was yeah, one of those moments where
I'm like, I knew it, but I hated that feeling
of that stranded feeling. Yeah, because even the next day
there was nothing because all the Nashville flights, minus like
one Southwest and then one American that went went through,
(19:56):
all the other ones got canceled. So people are the
mess I knew. I mean they were gone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I saw several people on my feed stuck in New York.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh. I was like, oh, that feeling was just like
not great though, because I'm like, I know he's going,
so now it's just going to be me and I
don't know how, you know. So I'm texting Sean Telle like, hey, girl,
can I stay at your place tonight? I don't know,
I might be staying there on Monday too, and I'm like,
I don't have time for this. I gotta get ready
for the holidays, and yeah, see the kids and that
part too, I'm like I missed the Dickens festival, you
know all the things that, So I was just they
canceled it. They did, they did, they canceled it because
(20:25):
it was so cold. So I didn't know that until
I got back. But I mean I was the sweet
people that saw me crying in the airport. And then
that's the thing too, because a few of them recognized
me and they're like, can I take a photo? Was
like sorry, yes, Like one second, I was like, I
just really want to get back to my babies, because
you know that, yeah, when you just want to go back.
And then you know, I knew to change the flight
because the two morning flights in Nashville went out. Oh
(20:48):
And I was like I know anyways, but it was
still glad you made it. Yeah, it was a good
It was a good birthday. We had a great time
walking around Central Park is one of our favorite things too,
so it was really sweet. Ladies, do we got a
wine about it? Oh? Man, I feel like we've dined
a lot, but probably.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
We just want to circle back or is there something
fresh because it's really been all really all my wine
I got. Yeah, I don't have anything worth noting. I
mean I have a couple things pinned and I'll keep
them pinned. But I think we've done a fair share
of non wine wine. Unless you have a wine, we'd
love to hear it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
When people don't tell you the real name, No, I
don't just like KBS, So no your wine?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, Well then let's move right on. Then to headlines,
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She got candid about side effects his medications on her
new reality show Loved by Nator, and elaborated on her
(21:58):
addiction to Bustle in November. The thing that I was
so shocked about with the show was that I had
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addicted to GLP one. I'm ashamed to talk about it
because there's such a stigma around it. It's a crutch
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help her career as a model. Nato revealed that she
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Do you think that's something that you can that you
could find yourself being addicted to.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm intrigued by the addiction part of it because when
you look at sorry, when you look at true addiction, like,
is it that the body has to have that medicine?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How I look at it as like and again I
don't know, but I'm almost looking at it as like
a mental thing addicted to staying that. So that's what
it to me.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I feel like that's what the addiction is, Not so
much that your body has to have it like a
drug addiction because it's used to having it. But yes,
if you're used to being thin, sure, I mean absolutely
it's I mean it's why a lot of people will
stay on it for the rest of their lives and
plan to because they've lost so much weight and who
wants to go back to being, you know, thirty pounds.
(23:21):
But people that have lost one hundred and fifty pounds,
I mean, who's going to get off of it and
potentially go back to being that much bigger, So yeah,
I see that, you know, as far as like, I
don't know, like it's hard, Like, you know, I talked
to my guy the other day and I was like, hey,
I obviously don't want to gain the weight back, but
(23:43):
I also don't want to stay on this my whole life.
So he's going to transition me over to another one
that he feels like is probably safer to do for
longer term. But I don't know, it's tricky. I mean, yes,
of course you get thin, you aren't as hungry, you
don't eat as much. Of course, it's great, you know,
it truly is. At the same time, there's things about
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it I don't love also that I could do without,
you know, like the first twenty four to forty eight
hours really tired. You know, it's you're very tired. It's
I don't feel nauseous. But it is a little bit
of like a logo, like I want to want to
eat a little bit more in those first couple of days,
you know, I kind of miss that, like wanting like
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nothing sounds good in those days, Like nothing sounds.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Good to eat.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I would love to get off of it and
not have that, But I can. I wouldn't see it
as an addiction for me, I don't think. But also
I don't want to gain the weight back so well.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And I think that's the tricky piece of it, especially
for her too, because like she's a model, right, and
so if she's a lot of people that I saw
were saying, well, why are you even on it?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You are in great shape, And so I think that
then maybe sends a message to other women sure, going
well I look the same, should I be on it? Right?
And then it's because she looks great, yeah, But if
she comes off of it, that's then where the right
the addiction piece might play, where it's well, I don't
want to I want to stay this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Weight, yeah, and especially if she's getting jobs from it now,
I will say, I think that they are really now
talking more about like the microdosing and you know, just
this minimal amount, taking it every so often so you
kind of can stay on it longer and you're not
putting as much medicine in your body and you're just
maintaining that. And I think that that's what. I don't
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know if that's been proven safe, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
If it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We probably don't even know, but I do think that
there is something to that. And if you're not just
going higher and higher and higher and trying to lose
more and more weight, I.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Think that that can be a safe way to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
There's also differences in each their articular medicine, and some
of them are best used for inflammation.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, so yeah, mind helps benefit inflammation a lot. And
that is another thing I noticed because you know, I
was having those joint pains and I was worried I
had to arthritis, I mean almost immediately, and I have
not noticed it one time since. I've never been more
like you were not joking, like, because he told me
it would help with the inflammation. So is it that
(26:09):
bad that if I came off of it, I couldn't
deal with it. No, But if someone has really bad
inflammation and it's helping, that would be that's a good point.
That could be very addictive because essentially it's helping with
something that's painful because of inflammation too.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, but it helps with a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I have that personality around weight, so it would be
it can be a slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
For me, and I truly don't, which is odd because
I even think because he was like, Oh, let's put
you on this one if you want to stay longer term.
I'm like, literally, like, if I gain it back, I
gain it back like I've been thirty pounds. It's not
the end of the world for me. It truly isn't.
But I don't have that relationship with weight. It has
been great to lose it, and I've enjoyed it. It's
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not going to mentally affect me that much if I
were to gain it back, but a lot of people
it would.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It absolutely would.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, I'm in sizes difference, you know, smaller and
stuff like that. I'm still at like a little over thirty.
I'm just maintaining now. Yeah, I'll lose like a pound
or two, just maintenance, and then towards the end of that,
because I'm on do every two weeks now, I'll go
back up to where I am and I'm I'm great
with where I am. Could I lose more, sure, but
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm great where I'm at, and I feel you know,
I feel good and all the things. So, but I
could see where people may want to. I could have
upped my dose months and months ago. I just never did.
I didn't want to do that, but a lot of
people will keep upping their dose, keep losing weight, and
then it can you know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And a lot of people are not doing it through
a medical professional, which is tricky. Yeah, there's a lot
of like these third party websites and like people are
injecting themselves of what they think is these weight loss drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And they aren't weight loss drugs. I just read an
article about that.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So it's like, and you're getting blood work regularly, which
I think is also important.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, and it's tricky.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And I will say though that there are some other
positives really coming out, like about the like the alcohol
stuff and alcohol addiction. It's really helping with that because
you just do not feel like drinking on this on
this drug. I don't know what it is, but it's
there's a lot of positives that are coming out of
these things too that I want people to know. Yeah,
there are probably negatives you know that they have listed
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that we don't know, but there are some good positives
from it too.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
When is it okay to bring a sick kid to
a party, so a running nose alone doesn't scare me.
A lot of kids are going to have running watery
noses in the winter season. It can be from the
cold weather, it can be from alergies in the fall.
Sniffle's not going to do much damage, especially with good
hand hygiene. She was saying that, speaking of fevers, checking
your child's temperature with a fancy scanner's unnecessary. Shearman's she
(28:53):
recommends a standard in your thermometer for kids over two
months old, for children less and obviously we know rectilly
is the thing. You should actually stay home if you
wake up and have a fever, If you wake up
and you're vomiting. Her diary, lah blah, blah blah. I
want twenty four hours symptom free before we are going
to a party. Because you have a fever, you are
at your highest contagion point. Do you all agree with that?
(29:16):
Have you ever brought a sick kid to a party?
I've And what are your thoughts when a sick kid
comes to your party?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That's funny, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Thought It's a little different, you know, like if it's
your kid versus if someone brings a kid.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
But like I am not opposite. Well, I'm like a
germs to yourself for us and for this, I actually
kind of am too, essentially. But I will say that
Emmy's birthday is right before Christmas, and when she was young,
she was sick every year on her birthday and I
would have to send a thing, Hey, she's sick, but
we're still having the birthday party. Come at your own
(29:51):
risk kind of thing, you know, But generally, candle, probably
I wonder.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I actually really when they were that honesty.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I remember she was like, really didn't feel good
at like her second birthday, and it ended up being
kind of small, but it was like I was paying
for the place. I was like, we'll just go on
our own if we have to, And then several sweet
people came and just washed their hands and like, you
know whatever. But yeah, I mean, like every birthday, but
I do generally try to stick especially fever. If they've
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got a fever, we're not going.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I've never been a twenty four hour fever person. I'm
like a solid forty eight or longer. Oh wow, I
mean probably, yeah, I probably do twenty four. I'm just longer.
I also just I think because.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I got feel good and it's been past twenty four,
like you're gone, You're going to you're going to school,
you know what I mean, it's been.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
So Leggie was so sick when he was little, so
so sick that I just won't I'm like, very much,
we keep our germs to ourselves because I just remember
I have like PTSD from that sure because he was
in they were going to admit him for RSV, but
they said if he got anything else, it could be
fake fatal. Yeah, and I just am now like because
like a stuff he knows to an adult could be
(31:05):
RSP to a kid. Right, So I'm just such a
think of like birthday parties versus school, Like school is
such like the pressure of like oh you can only
miss so many days, but don't come back and then
I mean there's so much pressure there. I'm like, especially
as they get older and like these grades matter and stuff.
I'm like, do you want me to keep my sick
kid home? Or do you want to send me a
(31:26):
note because she's missed too much school? Like That's where
I get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So, yeah, there are probably times that my kids have
gone to school before they should.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, they I mean they kind of force you into it,
they kind of do.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I mean it's kind of this cause now a birthday
party it's kind of like, okay, yeah, but I think
it's heads up my party say we can skip the
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, but I like a heads up.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, Like I have said to people before, like I
and probably one of you two, to say like we've
had a running note. Yes, we've had this, we've had that,
We're feeling fine, we have no fever.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
You've done that several times. I think the courtesy text
is the way to go. Always it's like, hey, got
to I would never bring a kid over if they
have a fever. I mean, obviously besides my wedding that
was a whole other situation, But with this situation, I
think it's like, hey, they've got a snotty nose, runny.
Just want to let you know, no worries if you
don't want to come over. And then I also appreciate
(32:15):
that text as well, because normally now third kid, I'm like,
I don't care. It's fine, right to get the germs
from the other two or preschool or school. So like,
thanks for the heads up, that's what I appreciate, but
do not this is what I don't f with the
stomach bug. No, that ain't coming any I want you
to be a week out solid like no, because that
(32:36):
runs through a house like crazy, So that's I don't
mess with that. Like if anyone says even their tummy hurts,
I'm like, it's okay, we'll wait. Yeah, yeah, we're good.
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
We also are big on rest when we're sick, so
like we are pretty good. Like if someone's sick in
our house, like we quarantine, Like you're sick, you go
upstairs and you sleep. You need fluids and you need sleep,
and I we're big on that. And it's not been
great with because people don't seem to understand that as well.
But like we've always been pretty good at that, Like nope,
we're sick, we're hunkering down and staying in boom.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
There's the season for that. Yep. I need help settling
a parenting debate in our house. My daughter wants to
wear whatever she wants, and honestly, I'm inclined to let
her rocket and head out the door with confidence. My husband, though,
wory she'll be made fun of by O their kids.
It's made me question whether I should be focusing more
and protecting her from judgment or on helping her feel
confident in who she is how would you approach this.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You're so old. I don't even think that piece matters.
I just wonder. Yeah, but I do wonder about because
if he's saying there's judgment, maybe that's somewhere in the
elementary well.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I wondered.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
At first I thought it was like wearing like princess dresses. Well,
at first I thought it was like close the show
too much. But then when he said worried about her
being made fun of, that to me means more like
her own style. That's maybe not like what everyone is wearing.
And I think that's tricky because obviously, if she's okay
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with it and she wants to wear it, nothing's happening,
no one's saying anything, or she doesn't care, but at
some point something might be said, and that's hard. You
want to protect them from that. But also I think
let them be themselves, and then if they get to
a point where someone says something and they want to
change that, then you let.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Them change it.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah. I agree. I mean there's some points where I'd
be like, girlfriend, you know you're wearing two different pairs
of socks, right, right? Or do you want to, you know,
change that and she's like no, I love. I'm like okay, yeah,
you know. And it's like there will be a day
when she's not gonna want to wear that because maybe
someone will say it or whatever. But it's I don't know.
I say, let them rock it with confidence. You guys
(34:47):
know my opinion. Do what you want.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I mean I can see the element of like, oh no,
someone's probably gonna say something and you want to protect
them from that or whatever. But I struggle with like
my kids want to dress like slobs when I want
them to like dress decent. I'm like, take your sweatpants
off and put on some nice clothes. Like That's where
I struggle.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
This all I've got. I'm like, well, buind some clothes
that are decent.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know it is tricky because we've really gone to
ath leisure as a society. Yes, me and my son
have gotten into this so much. Like you need clothes
where you look presentable. You can't just be out in
sweatpants all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I wore sweatpants to dinner last night, and I kind
of felt it for myself. I was like, shame on me,
and no one cares.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I mean, yeah, but it was like percent of the time,
it's fine, but there's sometimes I feel like we got
to like present ourselves a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Well, we kind of just stopped caring, which is a
society like I love.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, and like my little old ladies, they get to
wear something, you know that like yeah, we kind of
do dress up a little bit. Yeah, like you care, Yeah,
we care.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think if it's something where they're wearing, you know,
maybe like this crazy wild head I, you know, that's
where it's kind of like, all right, baby, let's leave
that for home. You know.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, if it's distracting maybe to learning environment or something,
I could see that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's where maybe I'd come in there too. Where it's
you you know, they might get made fun of the listen,
like that one time when I got made fun of
wearing what I wore to school that one time from
Evan Macomb. Oh me, Evan Macomb. I didn't wear it
ever again.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. It'll you know, it'll
take care of itself.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I didn't know that food Boo meant for us
by us. I cannot handle Michigan.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Forgot about that. That's funny.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, so I will say I would never wore it again.
And then I told my mom, because she had fifty dollars,
that was the most expensive thing that she spent all
her money on for that Christmas. And I had to
lie to her and tell her that I lost it.
But really I cried in school.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So opposite for me, I wore Okay, I hope Monica's listening.
Monica and I made a promise when we were in
fifth grade going into sixth grade that no matter what,
we would wear our own style in sixth grade. And
so I went out to Mervin's. Do you remember a
little trip down memory lane? And I remember getting these
penny loafers. I'd wanted them forever, and you know, we didn't,
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I think like most families back then specifically, but it
was very much like, here's your five items for school,
and you will wear this until you absolutely can't fit
in them anymore. And I got the I got the
teal little jeans that I wanted and these penny loafers,
and I popped the penny in and I went to
school and she did not wear what she wanted to wear.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
She wore what everyone else was wearing. And it was
the moment.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Where I was like, you know how you feel like
very movie like where the whole world like it's just
like a spotlight on you. Yeah, And there was some
comments made and I knew that I couldn't, like, we
weren't going to go buy more things, and so there
I was penny loafing that. But at like, I think
it strengthened a muscle in me that made me not care.
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And now look at me, which is I truly don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think some people. Yeah, I do think it would
be hard for me though.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But it was a different world.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Also, I will say that this isn't no social media, No,
I mean I think bullying was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Way, way significantly less.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, but if my child came and wanted to be
like super like gothic or you know, a style that's
just really out there, like every day all day with her,
it would be hard for me to just I know
that I need to probably just embrace that and let them,
but I would admit that would be hard for me.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Well, I mean, look at Northwest, that would be really hard.
That just she just said, you know, for those of
you that were upset about my finger, you're saying she
did the things that you know she's twelve, so I
saw that thing come out. So it's like, you know,
if if love Ramsey and Jolie, it's like would to you, right, yeah,
but you want them to express their how they want
(38:41):
to dress, and that would be hard. Yeah, it would
be really hard. You want them to be either. Some
people don't, you know, a lot of some people don't
want to wear the sparkly like there's still Jolie has
this really cute little sparkly sequency things. She's like, no, no,
like it. I'm like, it's so cute, but she's not
(39:02):
that right or early in some moments like that, you know,
we're going through the same thing where I'm like, but
this is great and textured and loves like I like
the plain white one and I was like, I'm dying
to slow death. But that's fine, make me up the
but yeah, so I mean you know what to do, mama, Okay, ladies,
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I love you, Love you, chat soon,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's just all take a breath all together, whether you're
driving or vacuum with your little ear pods in, or
taking at your desk, or pat taking a bath. We're
sitting on this couch right now. I hope they're taking
a bath. Two three, right.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It does help.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think it really does.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Actually, I actually do. I came in a little hot
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Was like, okay, just kind of helps, did you feel
a little. It just kind of centers you. It does,
You're welcome. Yeah. No, that's like one of my favorite
things that I do in therapy because you know you're
going in, they're super hot and ready, and then it's
just like, let's just take a deep breath and then
it just kids in then and usually that's on the
(01:00):
the breath and the release of tears. Guys, everybody feeling
it is the you know it's almost here, right, It's
almost here.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That dramatic pause, I think was the podcast version. If
you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything
at all. I think that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's just this season, as much as you want to
love it, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's a lot for I do have a little hat
well sorry from from the what you don't want your
head like? You know what I mean. It's like I'm
not going to from the husband for the wife the wife.
(01:49):
But that's so true. It is the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's literally watering, and I'm not even.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I will say this part.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I mean, yes, yes, yes, There's never been a trio
of women trying so hard and all of time to
be sweet and steadfast and objective as the three of
us are today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I think a lot of women feel this way
around the holidays, and I don't think, just like the
conversation of the maids, I don't sometimes think they understand
what goes in to all of it, because I I
don't think they understand that all the little presents for
(02:31):
the teachers and getting those together. I don't know a
husband that has done that, do youar als Deeal's I
think you know the answer to that, yeah, no, or
that they even think that that is something that goes
along with it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean you would just I would have to lay
it out and say these are the things I need
you to get, which I did, and there was two
and he did you have two teachers to give gifts
to him. No, no, this isn't even teachers. I mean, two
gifts out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I haven't even gotten to yet. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh but same though I got and then I just
said can you know because he was like yeah, and
I don't. They haven't come yet, so I don't know
the status. But that was the two that I took
off my table.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, I took two off my list and he got them.
I'll give it that. But it's just and this isn't
even complaining about husbands at this point, It truly isn't.
It's like, maybe we put it on ourselves. Maybe we
know it would be done differently. I don't know, but
they have no idea. Yeah, they don't have the list
of Christmas they you know of, and maybe there are
(03:32):
some men out there that do. And that's great, And
there's a lot of men that probably have to. I mean,
you know, there are definitely men in situations who have to,
so I understand that they don't have to. We take
care of it all of the things, and if we
ask generally, I think all of our husbands will help
and we'll do and I do like to do. You know,
I like to be I'll admit I like to do
(03:53):
the presence. I like to be in charge of wrapping.
Sometimes I love rapping. I do.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean it just as I.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do something for myself every year. Maybe this will be
helpful for us or others. Every year, I lock myself
in our bedroom with all the gift wrap, and I
use my tushy cushy on the floor to aid in
the tailbone, and I just put on my Jessica Simpson
Christmas and all my sweet little Christmas playlists, and it's
just me and a hot coffee or a little tea concoction,
(04:24):
and I just it's my Like it's just so therapeutic
for me in there, and so it makes me and
I try to do it if I can during the
day at some point, yeah, so that it's not nighttime
and I'm tired and I'm like a million other things.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just try to make it like I did with
my laundry room.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Like I was overwhelmed all the time with laundry, and
now I've just made a little sanctuary, just like those
moments where you can just kind of anchor and just
be grateful and like you know you're praying over gifts
and you're being and listen, that's my only Hallmark tidbit
for today because the rest of me is just a
little bit toxic.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But for what it's worth, that is.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Something I do like doing, and it has been like,
it's something I look forward to now. Yeah, Preston's like,
I can hire someone to wrap the gifts this year
if that will be helpful to you. And I'm like,
actually no, because I got.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, and I like it, Like I I don't know,
I mean, I think for me, it's more than mental load,
of course it is. I'm just like, I know I've forgotten,
like you just brought up teacher gifts and I know
I needed to, but like, oh my gosh, right, yes, okay,
that's what's on my list I still need to do.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's the mental load of all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's you know, everyone's going which way and has Christmas
parties and has all this and they don't have that schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They don't know that schedule. That's all. It's just the
mental Yes, physical load.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Physical load doesn't bother me as much as the mental load,
I think is what i'man I'd agree, I.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Did do a little hack this year. I scooped.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I'm sorry for anybody listening that might have received one
of these non so thoughtful gifts from us. I scooped
like a ton of really cute mugs from Target that
were like the little Christmas tree with the topper, you know,
and like all the little ornament Starbucks hot Chocolate, like
one off little things and like teeny tiny little Disco
star ornaments whatever, and I just did.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And listen.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I know that not everybody has even the financial capacity
to do this, and I understand, but for me, it
was worth it to just go get like ten of
each of those things and just have like a little
bit of a I have a little box in my
garage right now and it's just punt in case of
emergency gifts mark so that I'm not feeling. And they're
all things I would want to receive, which I think
also matters. But man, it's like I didn't get anything
(06:27):
for Lions teacher. I didn't plan on it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
She's there like two.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Days a week, and we bear, you know, and has
she even been there two days a week because she's velcrow?
And then I go to her Christmas program and everyone's
toting in huge gifts and I'm like, well, shoot, so
it's a little box of goods.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It was, Yeah, I've done that before.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I feel I feel you though on that. It's not
the physical, it's the mental. Yeah, And I think that's it.
We love, we love doing the things. It's just the
mental does over load it and then it takes the
fun out of it. Yeah, And that's the bummer in it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And if you're in young kid mode, you're still in
preservation of the magic, which is a whole nother mental
file folder right now, because you're trying to I know,
I'm trying to keep up with where the gifts are
coming in from, right And if you're listening with kids now,
you should never listen to us with kids. You should
have learned your lesson by now. But if you are,
this would be a fine time for you to turn it,
because I'm also now moving elves every night, and I'm
(07:21):
making sure that these packages are not coming to our
house because what's been asked for from Santa. Everyone's got
a radar up a bit, you know, and so I'm
like just trying to make all these arrangements. And so
there's that whole thing too. It's a it's not like
a lying. I mean, it is right, but it's like
preserving the magic is what I'm calling it, and it's
like protecting that magic is really a whole nother file
(07:43):
folder because you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Remember what you said and what you ordered. And we're
coming up what.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
They saw get delivered because I get everything delivered. So
I'm like, oh, right, note to self. She saw that
package that had the name on the outside, so that
has to be from me, can't be Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Exactly, I had a package coming yesterday. I thought, well,
that is no longer a stop and stuff her.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm pretty sure though, Ramseys figured it out, and she's
messing with me because she keeps adding things. She's like,
she keeps saying, now I want Santa, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Santa's done to finish, which is funny. Have the problem
with Jason, that's wrong with saying it. But he'll he'll
make up something. Yes, this is what does an imaginary toy? Yeah,
a dragon that shoots out this And I'm like, I
cannot find that. So he probably feels like the elves
(08:32):
can make I know. So that's that's the tricky point
that we're in right now. You're just on that sweet
I know. I love that. Guys. So, did anyone see
my New York trip at all?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I mean I saw your yeah, your stories.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you see my dinner? I did see your dinner.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Wait oh yeah, oh my gosh, I totally saw your dinner.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And I had a moment. I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I just I did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I had a moment I just.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I saw who it was. I guess it doesn't
It didn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh yeah, I knew the I saw the connecting pa
and I was like, well, that's just it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You never know, right, but I did, like ZOOMN. I
was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I don't know the girl though, Is that is
that true?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Her name is Rita. She's lovely, but I don't know
her right, No, Okay, I wondered that same thing. But
I know her name.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Maybe maybe it's through him or through you or something,
because I was like, gosh, I know this name, but anyway,
go ahead tell.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Us okay, so wild right, So I surprised Alan with
a trip to New York for his birthday and our
dear friend Adam Whitesman, who is a lovely man. He's
so sweet, such a generous like just he's such a
friend to so many people, but he just has such
a good heart. So I'd reached out to him because
(09:45):
we're you know, we're very all, very friendly. He loves Alan.
They you know, we've had breakfasts and lunches when we've
come to New York in the past. And I said, hey,
you know, I know I'm surprising Alan with his trip.
I think it'd be really fun. Would love to see
you on that Friday, because on his birthday Saturday, we're
going to do just a dinner with us, but would
love to see you on Friday, and again, have you
(10:07):
come to dinner with us? And He's like, okay, I'll
bring you know, I'll bring a friend. And I'm like great,
sounds awesome. So we go to this really amazing restaurant
called Sartiano's. I've never been there, but it's a really
cute little Italian place, and down walks this man and
I'm like, I know that face. You know, obviously I was.
I watched the Kardashians for years, right, and so but
(10:31):
I'm not going to be like, oh my god, you know,
so I'm like, I gotta keep it cool. I gotta
play it cool. So he comes down the stairs and
but he introduces himself, not as Jonathan. Oh, so how
does one to introduce himself? He goes and all my
friend Adam was like, this is my friend food God. No, no, nope,
(10:52):
uh oh, I don't think I think. I'm I wonder.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't know if your girl over here can handle
this kind of story.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And so I'm like, oh, well, I was wrong, you
know what I mean. So I'm like, you don't know him?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No? I didn't know his real name. I mean, I
had to think about it.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I know both, but I would never call myself well no,
that is another part was a kid, okay, continuing maybe
he's kidding.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So I'm like, so I'm thinking, sure, I'm not connecting
food God. I'm just thinking food God, you know, because
that's to me. So I'm like, well, I was way off,
you know what I mean. Who I saw this? So
I'm just like, okay. I was like, I'm sorry, can
you say that one more time? Like it's kind of
a loud restaurant. I'm like, and I was like okay,
And I was like, well, shit, I was wrong, you
(11:37):
know what I mean? But cool, nice to meet you,
you know, and that introduces me to his friend. We
go to the table and you know, I'm just like, no,
that is him, Like I know that's him. There's no
twin that looks exactly like Jonathan from the Kardashians, you know.
But like I'm like, god, I'm like, maybe that was his.
(12:01):
That was a given name, like before Jonathan. So I'm
really just an Alan and I have not had this conversation,
you know, because obviously we're all sitting at this table together.
And so then he goes to the bathroom and I
was like, so, how did how did do you know? Again,
I'm like I don't want to say the name again
because I'm like, fo god, you know what i mean. Like,
(12:22):
I'm like, I still don't know if I heard it correctly.
This is so good. This is so good, you know.
So and Grammer's this is really good. Registered would have
(12:43):
been amazing because again I'm just thinking, I'm thinking like again,
not food God, I'm thinking of food god, right, you
know what i mean? Like, and yeah, so I'm just like, so,
how long have you known? And she's like, oh, for
a long time. And then in the dinner he mentioned
(13:04):
something we were talking and I'm putting the pieces together.
And then he said when I was in the Kardashians.
I was like, okay, it's him. So then then I
was like, so, why did you change your name? You know,
like so I was like, so you changed your name,
and he said, I, you know, he wanted to not
be associated. He wanted to have a different association than
being Jonathan and I and I kind of get that piece.
(13:24):
I'm like, yeah, that makes total sense, like you want
to to differentiate yourself from that and and not just
be you know, Kim's best friend. And and he was hilarious.
He was friends. I don't think so I didn't think,
he said, but I didn't want to. I didn't want to.
I didn't want to. Like that was like I heard
they are not, Alan asked. He said, yes, but I'm
(13:48):
not like I didn't even want to go there, like
I'm pecting the space, of course, and I don't. I'm
not even going to say anything that was like spoken about,
you know what I mean, like respecting the space. I
love Adam, I respect him, I respect his of course.
I'm just more like with the name, you know, I
was so just so.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I knew food God from the Kardashians as well.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Though Oh see, I didn't really I didn't know he
called himself that on the show. Maybe it has always
been his Instagram. Okay, I never followed him, so I
didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I did either, So I don't really know how. But yeah,
I know it too.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But now that you say it, I remember them always
calling him Jonathan on the show.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But I think it's when he started to when he
started to tuning and what he felt good at.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Or like, yeah, and he became the food God. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Was just so funny because I'm like, I, so is
anyone referring him to dinner at all as Jonathan ever?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Just food God? I came that this is really tricky,
so so, but again, he was lovely. It was so
fun like he's such a sweetheart, you know, I loved
his friend, like, such a great time. And so when
we got in the car, it then didn't register it
to me, so I was like, well, look him up
on Instagram. That's when I saw, Oh, it's food God.
(14:56):
No food god, you know what I mean. Were you
actually saying it like that to him? Yes, that's how
it sounded. So I'm just trying to be respectful to
repeat back what it was, What a time. I mean,
he probably appreciated that you had no idea. Maybe I
don't know, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm sure he
(15:16):
probably you know, I saw that I registered it, but
I mean he was lovely. It was so funny and
I was just like, wow, this is this is hilarious.
But I so that was my and then we you know,
then Adam had because I'm like, I'm not posting shit,
you know what I mean, Like, I am not like
but I just thought that was funny. That just interaction
of the name and then knowing he's lovely and he.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Was so sweet good.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, it was a it was a really I love
how when you have moments like that where you didn't
know and we had talked talked about this too at
the table where when you don't know other people that
are coming, it could have been a nightmare, like if
the personalities didn't get along, it could have been bad.
But I mean it was such a nice It was
such a nice gathering. He didn't like my peak and
pit that I that I did, but besides that, we
(16:02):
spoke about it on a oh yeah and so but
besides that, it was Yeah, it was really funny, it
was a good time. Why didn't you like it? Because
he doesn't think people will follow through with it? And
I and I you know it's too interesting, it's but
I get it a lot. You know, I can't maybe
see you not liking peak and pits because you're like.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Like, actually the thought I'm actually doing it, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What are you gonna let go of? And it's like,
are you're really going to let go of it? You
know what I mean? Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, you guys, we are in I don't know if
you follow this, and I know I'll get whatever, I'll
get opinions.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But if you follow the Chinese zodiac at all, do you
follow that? You don't? I know nothing about it.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Okay, you need to and I won't expand, but everyone
does need to like kind of I think you would
identify and it would really feel validating if you read this.
We're leaving the snake here and we're moving into a
horse here, and it's really interesting how correct and validating
it feels to me. So the snake is like shedding
(17:12):
and leaving skin and decluttering and leaving behind things that
don't serve you and moving into which I think everybody
tries to do a little bit in December into January,
but it just felt a little more specific this year.
So yeah, I think that I think we can leave
all the pits and move to the peaks. I like
that it's going to feel good. I actually feel it coming.
(17:33):
But I also get like this before.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, it just feels very much like you're going to
a psychic and they're saying something that like would work
for everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
No, if that's why I feel like it gets detailed,
I'll look at it. I know.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I like that about you, though, I'm like, it's good.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And also when Adams said up to dinner, I feel
like it could be he has never known amazing friends.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But what a good dude. And it was a good
time and yeah, and then there was the tread was
New York was great? The right the way home was
was a bit show.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
But was it because of the snow coming in?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah? And it was one of those things where you
know when you just I I know better. This is
why I always take the first flight out. Yeah, It's
why I should have listened to my gut. And the
whole thing too, is Alan was going to be flying
to Belgium. But he was like, no, I'm going to
fly home with you for a couple hours and then
I'll fly out, you know, to Belgium in London or whatever.
(18:37):
So Belgium first and then he was going to London then
back to Belgium, and so you know, we were so
tight on that timeline. Anyways, that the night of his birthday,
I said, Hey, the snow's coming into New York. I
really think we should take that seven am flight out
and he's like, well, I don't want to wake up early,
and I'm like okay. I was like I don't have
a good feeling about this, and it's like I knew, Yeah,
(18:59):
I knew. So the second we got to the airport
at eight, it was okay, you have a thirty minute delay,
and then that delay went to one, two, three, four
or five, six, seven, eight, and they eventually canceled it.
But by that point all the other flights were sold out. Yeah,
and so I had gotten one seat on a United
out of Newark, which is where then his flight from
(19:20):
his original flight was Nashville to Newark, New work out.
So that's where we just went then to Newark, and
then we just then parted ways from there, so it
was just.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So, so you just have to go buy clothes for
a trip.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah. He had to, yeah, go buy all because all
he had was just you know, the New York stuff.
So but it was yeah, one of those moments where
I'm like, I knew it, but I hated that feeling
of that stranded feeling. Yeah, because even the next day
there was nothing because all the Nashville flights, minus like
one Southwest and then one American that went went through,
(19:56):
all the other ones got canceled. So people are the
mess I knew. I mean they were gone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I saw several people on my feed stuck in New York.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh. I was like, oh, that feeling was just like
not great though, because I'm like, I know he's going,
so now it's just going to be me and I
don't know how, you know. So I'm texting Sean Telle like, hey, girl,
can I stay at your place tonight? I don't know,
I might be staying there on Monday too, and I'm like,
I don't have time for this. I gotta get ready
for the holidays, and yeah, see the kids and that
part too, I'm like I missed the Dickens festival, you
know all the things that, So I was just they
canceled it. They did, they did, they canceled it because
(20:25):
it was so cold. So I didn't know that until
I got back. But I mean I was the sweet
people that saw me crying in the airport. And then
that's the thing too, because a few of them recognized
me and they're like, can I take a photo? Was
like sorry, yes, Like one second, I was like, I
just really want to get back to my babies, because
you know that, yeah, when you just want to go back.
And then you know, I knew to change the flight
because the two morning flights in Nashville went out. Oh
(20:48):
And I was like I know anyways, but it was
still glad you made it. Yeah, it was a good
It was a good birthday. We had a great time
walking around Central Park is one of our favorite things too,
so it was really sweet. Ladies, do we got a
wine about it? Oh? Man, I feel like we've dined
a lot, but probably.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
We just want to circle back or is there something
fresh because it's really been all really all my wine
I got. Yeah, I don't have anything worth noting. I
mean I have a couple things pinned and I'll keep
them pinned. But I think we've done a fair share
of non wine wine. Unless you have a wine, we'd
love to hear it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
When people don't tell you the real name, No, I
don't just like KBS, So no your wine?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, Well then let's move right on. Then to headlines,
brooks Nader says so many women have reached out to
her about her GLP one addiction. She shared a very
vulnerable moment how she opened up about her addiction to
weight loss drugs. She said she was using medications like ozembic.
She got candid about side effects his medications on her
new reality show Loved by Nator, and elaborated on her
(21:58):
addiction to Bustle in November. The thing that I was
so shocked about with the show was that I had
so many people reach out to me saying I'm also
addicted to GLP one. I'm ashamed to talk about it
because there's such a stigma around it. It's a crutch
for me, she told the outlet at the time. I'm
still on it, and it's a crutch for me too.
It's not healthy. I should get off it. I'll be
honest about that, specifying that she lost thirty pounds to
(22:20):
help her career as a model. Nato revealed that she
booked all the jobs after using the weight loss drug, Kat,
Do you think that's something that you can that you
could find yourself being addicted to.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm intrigued by the addiction part of it because when
you look at sorry, when you look at true addiction, like,
is it that the body has to have that medicine?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How I look at it as like and again I
don't know, but I'm almost looking at it as like
a mental thing addicted to staying that. So that's what
it to me.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I feel like that's what the addiction is, Not so
much that your body has to have it like a
drug addiction because it's used to having it. But yes,
if you're used to being thin, sure, I mean absolutely
it's I mean it's why a lot of people will
stay on it for the rest of their lives and
plan to because they've lost so much weight and who
wants to go back to being, you know, thirty pounds.
(23:21):
But people that have lost one hundred and fifty pounds,
I mean, who's going to get off of it and
potentially go back to being that much bigger, So yeah,
I see that, you know, as far as like, I
don't know, like it's hard, Like, you know, I talked
to my guy the other day and I was like, hey,
I obviously don't want to gain the weight back, but
(23:43):
I also don't want to stay on this my whole life.
So he's going to transition me over to another one
that he feels like is probably safer to do for
longer term. But I don't know, it's tricky. I mean, yes,
of course you get thin, you aren't as hungry, you
don't eat as much. Of course, it's great, you know,
it truly is. At the same time, there's things about
(24:04):
it I don't love also that I could do without,
you know, like the first twenty four to forty eight
hours really tired. You know, it's you're very tired. It's
I don't feel nauseous. But it is a little bit
of like a logo, like I want to want to
eat a little bit more in those first couple of days,
you know, I kind of miss that, like wanting like
(24:27):
nothing sounds good in those days, Like nothing sounds.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Good to eat.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I would love to get off of it and
not have that, But I can. I wouldn't see it
as an addiction for me, I don't think. But also
I don't want to gain the weight back so well.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And I think that's the tricky piece of it, especially
for her too, because like she's a model, right, and
so if she's a lot of people that I saw
were saying, well, why are you even on it?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You are in great shape, And so I think that
then maybe sends a message to other women sure, going
well I look the same, should I be on it? Right?
And then it's because she looks great, yeah, But if
she comes off of it, that's then where the right
the addiction piece might play, where it's well, I don't
want to I want to stay this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Weight, yeah, and especially if she's getting jobs from it now,
I will say, I think that they are really now
talking more about like the microdosing and you know, just
this minimal amount, taking it every so often so you
kind of can stay on it longer and you're not
putting as much medicine in your body and you're just
maintaining that. And I think that that's what. I don't
(25:27):
know if that's been proven safe, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
If it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We probably don't even know, but I do think that
there is something to that. And if you're not just
going higher and higher and higher and trying to lose
more and more weight, I.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Think that that can be a safe way to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
There's also differences in each their articular medicine, and some
of them are best used for inflammation.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, so yeah, mind helps benefit inflammation a lot. And
that is another thing I noticed because you know, I
was having those joint pains and I was worried I
had to arthritis, I mean almost immediately, and I have
not noticed it one time since. I've never been more
like you were not joking, like, because he told me
it would help with the inflammation. So is it that
(26:09):
bad that if I came off of it, I couldn't
deal with it. No, But if someone has really bad
inflammation and it's helping, that would be that's a good point.
That could be very addictive because essentially it's helping with
something that's painful because of inflammation too.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, but it helps with a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I have that personality around weight, so it would be
it can be a slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
For me, and I truly don't, which is odd because
I even think because he was like, Oh, let's put
you on this one if you want to stay longer term.
I'm like, literally, like, if I gain it back, I
gain it back like I've been thirty pounds. It's not
the end of the world for me. It truly isn't.
But I don't have that relationship with weight. It has
been great to lose it, and I've enjoyed it. It's
(26:49):
not going to mentally affect me that much if I
were to gain it back, but a lot of people
it would.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It absolutely would.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean, I'm in sizes difference, you know, smaller and
stuff like that. I'm still at like a little over thirty.
I'm just maintaining now. Yeah, I'll lose like a pound
or two, just maintenance, and then towards the end of that,
because I'm on do every two weeks now, I'll go
back up to where I am and I'm I'm great
with where I am. Could I lose more, sure, but
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm great where I'm at, and I feel you know,
I feel good and all the things. So, but I
could see where people may want to. I could have
upped my dose months and months ago. I just never did.
I didn't want to do that, but a lot of
people will keep upping their dose, keep losing weight, and
then it can you know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
And a lot of people are not doing it through
a medical professional, which is tricky. Yeah, there's a lot
of like these third party websites and like people are
injecting themselves of what they think is these weight loss drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And they aren't weight loss drugs. I just read an
article about that.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So it's like, and you're getting blood work regularly, which
I think is also important.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, and it's tricky.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And I will say though that there are some other
positives really coming out, like about the like the alcohol
stuff and alcohol addiction. It's really helping with that because
you just do not feel like drinking on this on
this drug. I don't know what it is, but it's
there's a lot of positives that are coming out of
these things too that I want people to know. Yeah,
there are probably negatives you know that they have listed
(28:14):
that we don't know, but there are some good positives
from it too.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
When is it okay to bring a sick kid to
a party, so a running nose alone doesn't scare me.
A lot of kids are going to have running watery
noses in the winter season. It can be from the
cold weather, it can be from alergies in the fall.
Sniffle's not going to do much damage, especially with good
hand hygiene. She was saying that, speaking of fevers, checking
your child's temperature with a fancy scanner's unnecessary. Shearman's she
(28:53):
recommends a standard in your thermometer for kids over two
months old, for children less and obviously we know rectilly
is the thing. You should actually stay home if you
wake up and have a fever, If you wake up
and you're vomiting. Her diary, lah blah, blah blah. I
want twenty four hours symptom free before we are going
to a party. Because you have a fever, you are
at your highest contagion point. Do you all agree with that?
(29:16):
Have you ever brought a sick kid to a party?
I've And what are your thoughts when a sick kid
comes to your party?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That's funny, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Thought It's a little different, you know, like if it's
your kid versus if someone brings a kid.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
But like I am not opposite. Well, I'm like a
germs to yourself for us and for this, I actually
kind of am too, essentially. But I will say that
Emmy's birthday is right before Christmas, and when she was young,
she was sick every year on her birthday and I
would have to send a thing, Hey, she's sick, but
we're still having the birthday party. Come at your own
(29:51):
risk kind of thing, you know, But generally, candle, probably
I wonder.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I actually really when they were that honesty.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I remember she was like, really didn't feel good
at like her second birthday, and it ended up being
kind of small, but it was like I was paying
for the place. I was like, we'll just go on
our own if we have to, And then several sweet
people came and just washed their hands and like, you
know whatever. But yeah, I mean, like every birthday, but
I do generally try to stick especially fever. If they've
(30:21):
got a fever, we're not going.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I've never been a twenty four hour fever person. I'm
like a solid forty eight or longer. Oh wow, I
mean probably, yeah, I probably do twenty four. I'm just longer.
I also just I think because.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I got feel good and it's been past twenty four,
like you're gone, You're going to you're going to school,
you know what I mean, it's been.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
So Leggie was so sick when he was little, so
so sick that I just won't I'm like, very much,
we keep our germs to ourselves because I just remember
I have like PTSD from that sure because he was
in they were going to admit him for RSV, but
they said if he got anything else, it could be
fake fatal. Yeah, and I just am now like because
like a stuff he knows to an adult could be
(31:05):
RSP to a kid. Right, So I'm just such a
think of like birthday parties versus school, Like school is
such like the pressure of like oh you can only
miss so many days, but don't come back and then
I mean there's so much pressure there. I'm like, especially
as they get older and like these grades matter and stuff.
I'm like, do you want me to keep my sick
kid home? Or do you want to send me a
(31:26):
note because she's missed too much school? Like That's where
I get frustrated.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So, yeah, there are probably times that my kids have
gone to school before they should.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, they I mean they kind of force you into it,
they kind of do.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I mean it's kind of this cause now a birthday
party it's kind of like, okay, yeah, but I think
it's heads up my party say we can skip the
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, but I like a heads up.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, Like I have said to people before, like I
and probably one of you two, to say like we've
had a running note. Yes, we've had this, we've had that,
We're feeling fine, we have no fever.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
You've done that several times. I think the courtesy text
is the way to go. Always it's like, hey, got
to I would never bring a kid over if they
have a fever. I mean, obviously besides my wedding that
was a whole other situation, But with this situation, I
think it's like, hey, they've got a snotty nose, runny.
Just want to let you know, no worries if you
don't want to come over. And then I also appreciate
(32:15):
that text as well, because normally now third kid, I'm like,
I don't care. It's fine, right to get the germs
from the other two or preschool or school. So like,
thanks for the heads up, that's what I appreciate, but
do not this is what I don't f with the
stomach bug. No, that ain't coming any I want you
to be a week out solid like no, because that
(32:36):
runs through a house like crazy, So that's I don't
mess with that. Like if anyone says even their tummy hurts,
I'm like, it's okay, we'll wait. Yeah, yeah, we're good.
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
We also are big on rest when we're sick, so
like we are pretty good. Like if someone's sick in
our house, like we quarantine, Like you're sick, you go
upstairs and you sleep. You need fluids and you need sleep,
and I we're big on that. And it's not been
great with because people don't seem to understand that as well.
But like we've always been pretty good at that, Like nope,
we're sick, we're hunkering down and staying in boom.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
There's the season for that. Yep. I need help settling
a parenting debate in our house. My daughter wants to
wear whatever she wants, and honestly, I'm inclined to let
her rocket and head out the door with confidence. My husband, though,
wory she'll be made fun of by O their kids.
It's made me question whether I should be focusing more
and protecting her from judgment or on helping her feel
confident in who she is how would you approach this.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You're so old. I don't even think that piece matters.
I just wonder. Yeah, but I do wonder about because
if he's saying there's judgment, maybe that's somewhere in the
elementary well.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I wondered.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
At first I thought it was like wearing like princess dresses. Well,
at first I thought it was like close the show
too much. But then when he said worried about her
being made fun of, that to me means more like
her own style. That's maybe not like what everyone is wearing.
And I think that's tricky because obviously, if she's okay
(34:06):
with it and she wants to wear it, nothing's happening,
no one's saying anything, or she doesn't care, but at
some point something might be said, and that's hard. You
want to protect them from that. But also I think
let them be themselves, and then if they get to
a point where someone says something and they want to
change that, then you let.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Them change it.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah. I agree. I mean there's some points where I'd
be like, girlfriend, you know you're wearing two different pairs
of socks, right, right? Or do you want to, you know,
change that and she's like no, I love. I'm like okay, yeah,
you know. And it's like there will be a day
when she's not gonna want to wear that because maybe
someone will say it or whatever. But it's I don't know.
I say, let them rock it with confidence. You guys
(34:47):
know my opinion. Do what you want.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I mean I can see the element of like, oh no,
someone's probably gonna say something and you want to protect
them from that or whatever. But I struggle with like
my kids want to dress like slobs when I want
them to like dress decent. I'm like, take your sweatpants
off and put on some nice clothes. Like That's where
I struggle.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
This all I've got. I'm like, well, buind some clothes
that are decent.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know it is tricky because we've really gone to
ath leisure as a society. Yes, me and my son
have gotten into this so much. Like you need clothes
where you look presentable. You can't just be out in
sweatpants all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I wore sweatpants to dinner last night, and I kind
of felt it for myself. I was like, shame on me,
and no one cares.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I mean, yeah, but it was like percent of the time,
it's fine, but there's sometimes I feel like we got
to like present ourselves a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Well, we kind of just stopped caring, which is a
society like I love.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, and like my little old ladies, they get to
wear something, you know that like yeah, we kind of
do dress up a little bit. Yeah, like you care, Yeah,
we care.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think if it's something where they're wearing, you know,
maybe like this crazy wild head I, you know, that's
where it's kind of like, all right, baby, let's leave
that for home. You know.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, if it's distracting maybe to learning environment or something,
I could see that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's where maybe I'd come in there too. Where it's
you you know, they might get made fun of the listen,
like that one time when I got made fun of
wearing what I wore to school that one time from
Evan Macomb. Oh me, Evan Macomb. I didn't wear it
ever again.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. It'll you know, it'll
take care of itself.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I didn't know that food Boo meant for us
by us. I cannot handle Michigan.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Forgot about that. That's funny.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, so I will say I would never wore it again.
And then I told my mom, because she had fifty dollars,
that was the most expensive thing that she spent all
her money on for that Christmas. And I had to
lie to her and tell her that I lost it.
But really I cried in school.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So opposite for me, I wore Okay, I hope Monica's listening.
Monica and I made a promise when we were in
fifth grade going into sixth grade that no matter what,
we would wear our own style in sixth grade. And
so I went out to Mervin's. Do you remember a
little trip down memory lane? And I remember getting these
penny loafers. I'd wanted them forever, and you know, we didn't,
(36:58):
I think like most families back then specifically, but it
was very much like, here's your five items for school,
and you will wear this until you absolutely can't fit
in them anymore. And I got the I got the
teal little jeans that I wanted and these penny loafers,
and I popped the penny in and I went to
school and she did not wear what she wanted to wear.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
She wore what everyone else was wearing. And it was
the moment.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Where I was like, you know how you feel like
very movie like where the whole world like it's just
like a spotlight on you. Yeah, And there was some
comments made and I knew that I couldn't, like, we
weren't going to go buy more things, and so there
I was penny loafing that. But at like, I think
it strengthened a muscle in me that made me not care.
(37:41):
And now look at me, which is I truly don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think some people. Yeah, I do think it would
be hard for me though.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But it was a different world.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Also, I will say that this isn't no social media, No,
I mean I think bullying was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Way, way significantly less.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, but if my child came and wanted to be
like super like gothic or you know, a style that's
just really out there, like every day all day with her,
it would be hard for me to just I know
that I need to probably just embrace that and let them,
but I would admit that would be hard for me.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Well, I mean, look at Northwest, that would be really hard.
That just she just said, you know, for those of
you that were upset about my finger, you're saying she
did the things that you know she's twelve, so I
saw that thing come out. So it's like, you know,
if if love Ramsey and Jolie, it's like would to you, right, yeah,
but you want them to express their how they want
(38:41):
to dress, and that would be hard. Yeah, it would
be really hard. You want them to be either. Some
people don't, you know, a lot of some people don't
want to wear the sparkly like there's still Jolie has
this really cute little sparkly sequency things. She's like, no, no,
like it. I'm like, it's so cute, but she's not
(39:02):
that right or early in some moments like that, you know,
we're going through the same thing where I'm like, but
this is great and textured and loves like I like
the plain white one and I was like, I'm dying
to slow death. But that's fine, make me up the
but yeah, so I mean you know what to do, mama, Okay, ladies,
(39:24):
I love you, Love you, chat soon,
Host
Jana Kramer
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