November 3, 2025 • 37 mins
It’s the premiere of The Christmas Ring! But Jana feels conflicted… She opens up about handling self-criticism while trying to be proud of her accomplishments.
If you struggle with negative self-talk, you have to hear the advice Kathryn and Kristen have for Jana, your inner child will thank you!
Plus, how do we keep football from dominating our lives??
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, ladies, we got to keep it kind of short today,
Short and sweet.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Short and sweet, it's premiere day. I'm so excited for you.
How are you feeling? You're excited? Catherine knows how I feel.
I know. That's why I'm asking the question because.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's like one of those things where I'm very excited.
Of course, I think it's going to be so fun
to be with friends.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Jolie. I mean, she woke up this morning and she
was just like, are you excited for the premiere?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know? And she you know, she's like, I'm excited,
So she's she's really pumped. I think it's twofold. I
feel I always will like talk down to myself about it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh I don't like that. Well, that's just who I am.
It's just real. Well I say it, and I do that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To myself by that, which I don't like right at
the same time, but I also it's not that I
live with like haters in my head. But if anything,
like I'm my loudest hater, right, does that makes sense?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So and I even you know, my girlfriend's from Michigan,
flew in. You know, it's so sweet. But even last night,
I'm like, guys, I'm going and being like such your
standards low so and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Stop, like this is a movie. I'm like, yeah, but
it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah it is, but like it's still you know, again,
there is nothing against I this is such a good
Christmas I don't want anyone to take this as this
is such a cute Christmas film, but like, listen, it's
still a Christmas film. I don't know, you, guys, I'm
sounding like I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Know what you're trying to say. I know because you're
thinking it's not like.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We all know to love actually holiday, and maybe it is.
And also you and Ben did so well together that
I think you're gonna surprise yourself. I just know what
it is. And again I'm not saying the movie is.
The movie is so great. It's so cute and special,
and I want everyone to go see it in theaters
November six, because it's so great that it gets, you know,
(02:20):
a couple of weeks run in theater. Not many movies
get to do that. So it's so amazing that Karen
is giving the opportunity for this film.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I just also.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like I would make the comments like if I ever
get to the Emmys one day, I promise I'll bring
you guys back for that, Like you know, and I
just basically talk myself down because I know it's not
that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You're afraid, you're afraid people's expectations are going to be
something like name the biggest movie you can think of
in a theater, and you're afraid they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
To be let down. Well obviously, Well.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm just saying that's why you want to go in
there and set everyone's expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Because I mean it is just like it's like, yes,
it has different heart than a Hallmark or a Lifetime,
but it's still the same. It's a family friendly, which
is also puts it in a class right Like Karen
even said herself she didn't want any scenes where kids
had to leave, right yeah, And so it still has
that element you need to remember too though this is
(03:18):
something I kind of deal with in our little orbit.
This is still a movie premiere, so like, I've never
been to a movie premiere before, and I'm behemped and
so like it's exciting for us and even at its
most wholesome, movie moment. It's still a movie premiere for
(03:41):
your friends from Michigan, from this friend from Michigan, for KitKat,
Like absolutely, this is exciting. My kids are over the moon.
His whole baseball team he's missing a game tonight, and
his whole baseball team is like what legends in a movie,
you know, like there's still this is what I love
and appreciate about film and movie and that like it's
(04:02):
the spotlight life that gives all of us back like
our inner like ten and eleven year old and I
just can't wait.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And so for all of us living in it, we
get to be little kids that are doing something super cool. Yeah,
and so it's already cool enough, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But I think there is something well there that was
my good try and fail worse out. I think we
are our own critics. We are the lesson here.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That is the lesson is we are we of course
we also know where we want to be too agreed.
But also you know, to the hater in my head,
you know, not many people get to have be in movies.
You know, there's so many people that have auditioned for
(04:53):
years and don't get to be the leads in a film.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I remember seeing something where it's someone was saying, you
know second, like she's never the first pick, and I'm like, well, list,
I'm on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's like that's something where I'm trying to change that
perspective too, where it's like, yeah, but are you on
a list?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And also think about the fact that you get to
bring your kids to this movie. That's so incredible. If
you were on something like Hunting Wives and doing the preview,
no a premiere, no one could come, do you know
what I mean? Well, somebody could pun intended, but it's
like wild because you get to So this is so fitting.
It's a such an anointed season that you're doing what
you love, You're getting paid to do what you love.
You're providing for your family with doing what your love.
(05:37):
And do you get to bring your kids to watch it?
And my kids too for that matter.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, No, I'm so excited. I mean, it's gonna be
it's gonna be fun. I can't wait to get all
dressed up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Have you done a movie premiere like this for yourself before?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean it was a million years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So what Supporting the Girls was with Regina Hall? That
was when I was pregnant, I think with Jase Gosh,
I can't remember. It was so long ago. Uh so
I've done yeah, yeah, but it's been a minute. Yeah,
because a lot of these movies just go straight to.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well there's an acquisition.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean in my like, I was just thinking when
you were talking about this again, my kid's head, there's
no difference between you being on the TV at their
house and at a movie theater.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, Well, the value of a theater has really gone down,
It truly has, and most didies only stay in for
a couple of weeks, right, And it's I think more
people are like, well, well can we stream it? Because
I run the same thing. I don't really want to
go to the theater unless it's going to see one
of the big you know, top guns or something like
that that needs that big cinematic view.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, I still love a theater, but I just
think that's still such kind of an old school view.
Like again, my kids aren't thinking like, oh, it's in
the theater, like is it going to be on the TV?
Like they don't even think, you know, they don't think
about that. So I think you seeing the positive in
that and how great that is to still be able
to you know, but I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You're definitely your biggest.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I know for sure we're the same, and but I'm here.
That's why we you have us. Yeah, we'll just drown
that out for you. Yeah, and it'll be it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think it'll be a nice little moment for everyone
to get together.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And more importantly, are you doing our makeup? Because that's
what you do for wind down?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And I asked, I did.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I texted Cat this morning and I also do yours too,
But I said, you know, hey, girl, I'll have time
if you want me to do your makeup?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Soointment appointment? Do you need help to well? I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean, I feel like I'm starting to get better.
But I think I just love I mean, she already
has me in the books for B and I award.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was like, hey, wondering if I can slide into.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Your baylist hair makeups? Like we got a team we're
going to help when you're going to just touch up
before I leave?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, for sure, if you just get here at a
certain time and then and then that would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I can absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So hard for me to be like, hey, Cramer, You've
a movie premiere tonight and like your hair and makeup
is from three If you did, I mean you and
like be like, do you mind doing my mate?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Like it's just would be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So hard for I mean, I've never even thought about
it because you're just so busy today too. But she offered,
and I was like, that is so sweet. I can't
cancel now and they'll charge me, But that is so sweet.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's also not normal, but also like it's yourself ready,
you're too sweet thinking about other people.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I just I want you guys to feel beautiful, I know,
feel so cute, and you do my makeup.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So we'll have a fun little rundown of how I mean,
I hope a fun I'm going to be how the
premiere goes fantastic. Yeah, I just I Karen's like if
you want to say a speech, and I'm like, this
is where I'm from my body, Yeah, this is where
I shove Christen into the front of a mic and
then she gets mad at me.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, so here's that. It's going to be amazing. Are
you going to say a speech?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I most likely will just just say thank you say
to Ben like you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh man, Oh, Ben will be good at that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, Yes, Ben's great, perfect all right. So that is
the opening update here, ladies. Do we have a wine
about it?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I do good.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I'm and I am going to go down in a
ball of flames for what I'm about to say next.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But I will say though, kat so many people.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh, I got really so many messages, and I mean
people that I know that I did not know that
listened several people actually, and I'm like, oh wow, and
like just the sweetest, Like one person even was like
not to but one person was like, I've seen who
your child hanging out with. Now she's doing great, great
(09:37):
group of friends.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like just making I was like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I didn't even know you listened or barely even know.
I mean, like that is so sweet, Like I really
needed to hear that.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I think the blessing and the curses. We don't know
how many people listen, right, yeah, Like I don't know,
so I just assume we're listens.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I but you know, yeah, you know Nick said to
me now night, like okay, at this point, you know
she listens, Hi, mom.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Board cackle. We'll find out. I just want to say
really fast before we win.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I just want to say though too, when you
had texted us that saying like, well got confirmation, my
mom listens, and you know, I thought about it for
a second. You didn't say anything. It's and you also
said what you felt. I felt as if she didn't care,
and that is a feeling where as a parent we
might miss, even as us being parents, like did we
(10:37):
miss that they felt that way? So it's the fact
that how your mom went about it is what I
loved her wanting to be a sit down is what
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Would she say her Her text was actually super sweet.
It was an apology and would love to sit down,
and she even said in the text she said I
did care, So it was very sweet. I haven't responded
yet and not I got it really late last night,
and I just want to like think through your respect
and I don't want to just like be like, oh
thank you know, like so I want to think through
my response.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So but actually I loved that. Yeah, I love that,
even that message, how she went about the message. And
then there's healing that could possibly happen. And then again
I just started thinking, I'm like, man, what am I
missing that My kiddos you know that I'm going to
make them feel probably a certain way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And we all are.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And that's the thing I do think parents. No one
gets it completely right, nobody.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean, my god, I almost said favorite last week
and that that that like when I thought that back,
and I'm like, how could I even say it, like,
because I don't have a favorite, like I love my kid,
you know, and I don't want to Jolie to ever
listen to something and be like, right, what because it's
not true. You know, It's just we have different soul connections.
I don't think there's right, you know, so yeah, absolutely,
(11:50):
but I think through that is a really sweet thing
that your mom reached out in that way and that
way you guys can have a conversation. And it's beautiful
that you expressed it because so many people feel the
same way, because I do think we take on what
we lacked as kids from our parents.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yep, and a lot of I mean I got a
lot of the middle schools hard oh my daughter, but
a lot of like, hey, I didn't feel like my
mom was paying attention or that my mom cared or whatever.
And it's not like all these moms don't care. I mean,
at the end of the day, we know that they care.
It's just how things were maybe handled that we take
into our adulthood.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And then we also like try we analyzed what we Yeah,
like my dad wouldn't have cared if I went to
school with a bathing suit on, right, you know what
I mean, Like dads are like that, and then they're
you know, like right, and then my mom, you know,
my mom would have been you know, I shouldn't care
that I wasn't taking tests, So that made me think
she didn't care. But well, you know, there's just there's
just so much, so many things that we can take.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Also had their whole lives, Like both my parents were working.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Well that was the other thing and part of what
I was at time, And I'm like, yeah, all the time, Yeah,
my parents were always working.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So I look back and I'm like, she may not.
I've even known half the time, right, you know, so
we have open enough to even tell that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's like all a part of a big discussion, you know.
So maybe it wasn't fair for me to just say
she didn't care.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You didn't say that, That's not it made me feel
like she didn't care. That's a totally different thought than
she didn't care right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, Yeah, for sure and absolutely and we all are
those are all valid feelings.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's so hard to see you cry though I watch
the I know it just but thank you for being vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So I love about the show.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
All right, Katie, Mine's not going well. Mine's definitely not
groundbreaking coming off the heels of that. But I think
I hate football.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What that is awful? I think I do.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I I know I'm going to go down in the
ball of flying car yep, and I'm prepared for it
because six seven.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They're sending all of us into a spiral. Here's the deal.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I see you NFL, and I see you whatever league
college is, and I see you sneaking into every single
day of our lives. Slowly, it needs to be slowly.
It used to be Monday night football. Now it's Thursday
night football. And then there's Sunday football. And I'm like,
the every day is a game.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
If you could just like college, it's only Saturday mostly.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Oh yeah, then there's Saturday football. I mean the an
NFL gets to be and it's starting in October, and
we talk.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
About your disdain yeah, where is the first?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So I'd like to say I'm really proud of the
Detroit Lions. I think we can all agree on that.
But I think the part that frustrates me is that, like.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Any no, no, I'm not crying, but whether I throw
my husband under.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
The fu we all know that you hating football. Why
would you hating football have anything to do other than
your husband watching football when you don't want it, to
watch it?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We already know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh no, but I was gonna go thirty thousand feet.
They don't use that as a clip about me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The amount of times that we've all wanted to go
thirty thousand feet, Like if someone says if someone called
me passive aggressive, like who.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh, you guys are so good.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Anyways, it's I just don't get to watch a program
at three thirty in the afternoon. I don't get to
arrange my day around something starting at three thirty in
the afternoon. Do you know what it would take you do?
Because you'd have to do it too for us to
have everything done, we need done on a Sunday afternoon
by three thirty to be able to sit for hours
and watch a game.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I have such devil's advocate for you right now? Oh
can I well you're ready to go?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Cat?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Is this your inner football lover? Or is this just
you reframing it for me?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So I don't wait. Can I just time out really fast? Please?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Girl? I feel like I'm under a deck, and anybody
out there please damn me and tell me you don't
like it either.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, I'm sure plenty of people. I just want to
get it right. Does so.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He plans to make sure he's home for every game
or for his team.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Only his team only. He's a Colts fan. Oh, I know,
rough right. Maybe if it was Lions, I might feel different.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
He does support the Lions though, Okay, so they only
play once a week, but there's always a game, so so,
but he'll still come to He'll watch the other teams too, Yeah,
but not as like intensely. He loves his Colts. He
loves his Colt socks. It's really cute.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But the days are rearranged for yeah, like it's more
of a priority for him. Copy that, And he doesn't
get to see anything all of the time because he's
working so much. So I try to I'm kind in
my brain, you know, I'm making chili and I'm making
snacks and I try, but there's always when we have
the guys on next, we have to pin this because
(17:03):
he always says, Oh, I wish you would just sit
and watch the game with musht a wife the sat
and watch the game with me.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And I'm like, I wish that's a bit passive, is it.
I'm ready to murder. I wish a lot of things.
I wish I had a husband that was doing all
the under dishes and bagging lunches for tomorrow and doing
the homework so that she could sit and watch a
game on her ass for two hours.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You're all got up. I think I ate football. That's
my wine about that, Catherine, go okay, get gass.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So my first question to you was why why if
Okay so football his is his priority. Yours is obviously
not football or maybe something else.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
But I don't get to watch my priorities when they
come out. But why not because I'm doing it all,
doing it all, and I can make a priority if
I want to watch something.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You're never delayed watching something when it comes out if
it's that big of a priority to me. And again,
we did get to sex and the City though we
had just like.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That, just it's like everyone comes down, not comes down
to me. That's not what I'm gonna say at all.
It's like everyone points out to me, if working out
was truly a priority of mine, then I would make
the time. And I one hundred percent agree with everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But wouldn't you agree that? Like, so this is what's hard.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I think like those things can be done in pockets
or rearranged. But like a game is a set time. Yes,
so you know the game is at three thirty, So
what is I don't want to have to know the
game's at three thirty. In fact, I would like to
not know what ever existed. And I would like us
to get all of our shit done.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
What is all this you have to get done on
Sunday at three thirty by three thirty?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Well, for me, it's the prep for the week, the
food prep for the week, it's the homework, making sure
that we're all caught up, and all the projects and
blah blah blah. You know, like I like laundry done,
I like a tea up for the week. Sundays really matter,
right me?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So that's your priority, right his priority?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And that is oh I know, so well kick off again.
This is coming from the Alabama loving would it? When
we first were together. Wouldn't go to a wedding, would it?
And we've had plenty of fights about.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It, like, wait, who loves Alabama? Nick?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
My husband? Why his whole family's from Alabama? Oh yeah,
huge Alabama fans. And this is like when we were
first together, it was like if it was you know, Bama.
I mean, it's still if Bama's playing, But we've come
a long way.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We've had a long way. They're very passionate people, those fans.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But you know what I learned, honestly, like I started
looking at it going I mean, if he meets a
Saturday for four hours, like, why am I mad?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I had to like evaluate that.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Well, that's the other thing because it's not over. It's
never over. Have you noticed it's only four more minutes
on the clock. I'm like, that's another hour. I think
it's freaking wild. It's the game that never ends.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I just have learned through getting upset with my own husband.
So that's what I'm saying. I'm playing Tivil's advocate in
the way that it's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Just gonna be so mad at me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That you kind of let that go because no, granted
I can sit and watch something like I.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Don't like I'm a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I am like, if you know what, Sunday's a rest day? Yes,
I like, it's the Sabbath. It's a prep day, which.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We don't watch NFL. We really only watch well you
save it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Anyway, So it's Saturday days in our in our house,
you know, And we had sports when they were younger
and stuff, which he would never miss a sport for Alabama,
you know. I mean he never did that, like a
kid's sport or something. But we just kind of knew,
like it goes on the calendar, that's when the Bama
game is. If we don't have something, we're home and
we're watching the Bama game, you know. And so I
just think there's a way that maybe you could framework
(20:39):
it and more of a positive. So you're not angry
at him, because I was angry a lot and I
didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I don't like it, and I don't want to
be angry because I love you. Also evaluated why you
were angry.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. He works really hard, so
I want him to have the break. Yeah, I think
it's hard because it's always on a Sunday, and it's
like coming on the heels of I'm doing this all
by myself, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Sure, And I get to so and now you're home
and you're resting, and I don't rest in our home really,
so I feel like you need to rest. I do.
I think that that might be the it's maybe less
about Cale I.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Do, because here's the thing. I used to also get
mad about fishing. And what I evaluated was I was
mad that I was in an office building and I
couldn't leave, but that he got to stay home and
he could choose when he went fishing. So I had
to get to the bottom of that, like why do
I care that he's going fishing right now? This doesn't
affect me in the least, But it was because he
(21:34):
got to do something I didn't get to do.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
So I love when he fishes and hunts interesting, right.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
But that is I think it's only occasional and it's outdoors.
It feels more productive, it seems like because it's every
Sunday or Monday. Sure, this where it probably feels a
little bit more than the occasional time that they go
to Lee's property. And hunt ducks or whatever they did,
whatever they do. Yeah, yeah, okay, turkey, there we go. Yeah,
(22:02):
so you know that's probably and then I can I
totally get you being frustrated coming off of doing right,
but you deserve But then kind of like what Catherine
was saying is you deserve something too, so flip it.
So personally, for me, I do the laundry while I
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watch football, and it's like my favorite time because Alan's
not yes he's a football soccer watcher, but like I'm
the football watcher. He knows that that when the Lions play,
I would like to have it on. But what I
do during that time, because it's hard for me to
also just sit and watches. I do all the laundry,
so I'm being yeah, being you know, active, but also
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you know, watching the game, and Alan will come and
sit with me, you know, you know, try to fall
But I personally did love folding the laundry.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, he comes it.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So if you could do that then with him, then
you're then you're doing something with him. Okay, we're gonna,
we're gonna yeah, and I'm going to report back, but
also I'm gonna I want to offer something else though,
is say to him like, hey, after or before the game,
can I have an hour to go for a walk
or something that you want to do for yourself on
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that day, Because when you get something for yourself, when
they get something to it just I'm not saying it's
tit for tat, but it's also the resentment peace will
go away because you got.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Something for yourself too. Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, And I feel like most men, I mean I
would would gladly. It's just half the time we.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Don't ask yes that. And that's that's the piece that's been.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Really good at asking you. I know that you too,
y'all aren't asking well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But I do. I do for like my workouts where
it's like today your day. So I'm like, hey, can
can you drop Roman off at school today? He's like oh,
He's like I got a client and I'm like, I
was like listen, babe. I was like, I am stretched
to like the minute here, and I said, I I
need to run and this is my only hour that
I can run in Sana And he's like one hundred
percent absolutely, you know, And then like for him, he'll say,
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you know, like okay, cool, I'll move it to here.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Do you can you get him out that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was like absolutely, so like and then he'll have
his time for for what he needs to do. So
it's really just like ebbing and flowing of what we
both need. And that way there's no resentment because if
he's just doing one thing and I'm just like, oh,
I would have liked that, then that's where resentment's going.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
To track you. That's my sentence. On both sides. It
is usually my sentence, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well exactly, and it's so it's like you have to
then add so I've been the advocate now to ask
for myself because I love how he's like, yeah, I'm
going I'm like, well, that must be awesome to feel
that great to be Hey, he's like, I'm going to
the gym for the next you know, two hours, and
I'm like, okay, cool, because I also know now that
I can do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Hey, I'm got about two hours. You know. It's the
guilt trip. It's like, wish you had a wife that
comes suit with and I'm like, that's not cool. Well
that's not fair. And that's what I told him.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I said, I want I would love We're not actually
in a season to sit for two hours. We're just
not we have a two year old like well, it's
hard to say, but that's any.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But also also what we started doing is we would
go up and when they were little, we'd go up
in the playroom where it was completely and I've made
it a priority to sit there and watch the game
and watch the kid run around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I hope pressons'll listen to this because you're a champion.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
No, and it's not that again, I'm coming from a
place about how you were.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I am a vegetarian's scared of heights, and I've been
in a deer stand a thousand times in my life
with it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I never because it's important to him. Yeah, and I
think I just want to get some credibility back because
I think I'm going down. No, No, I'm trying to
help you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And I do think there's a part of me that
thinks that you might enjoy if you change your mindset
for one Sunday afternoon. You know how fun it is
to actually just sit on the couch with their family
and watch a football game.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's actually great, and eat some snacks and I make
great snacks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The kids make so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Also do this too. I'm not I'm offering. Maybe sorry
not to be like do this, but the kids make posters.
They get excited for it. So you love doing arts
and crafts. And I actually love sports. I'm a Detroit
make it a thing. I'm a Tigers fan.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I love baseball Like this is not it's I just
am like Monday nights, Gaday night, Thursday night, Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
How many days does a sport need?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, that's why her question on is is she he's
supporting one team or all team?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And I will say that that does matter, and the credibility.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
His credibility is that he'll say, oh, this game, I
don't care about this game.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, like he doesn't we watch.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
We still watch our shows together and we get in
there's a game on, or he'll be you know, and they.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Get older and football is on.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'll even sometimes be like, hey, Nick, there's football and
he's like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Like if we're home, great, he'll watch. If we're not.
On Sunday, I have football on all day just because
I I like the sound of it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I love I really do. I love I love watching
teams I don't even know. But if it's something I'm
not gonna sit for it. If it's not the Lions,
amen micirl or a change, I would the cold kind
of game he needs me to.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
If person's listening, I'm still on your side.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I like, so two things you need to report back
to us, Okay, one of the sundays sit with him
and do laundry and and chill with the kid kids
have have it be fun. So you're checking that off.
But then also either before after the game, I want
you to ask for something for yourself, okay, because we
do not need Resentment is the killer of relationships. So
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we do not need that resentment trapping anybody. No, because
I know when I'm resentful of someone's.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, no, no vice versa. For this conversation, oh so good,
thank you for I don't know why. I just like love.
I think I'm gonna get a lot of hate, but
I'm okay with that. No, I think I try.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And I think a lot of women too would say
they hate golf because it's all when when the men
go for trips, you know, eighteen And I like beg
Alan because he likes to golf.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm like, go.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He's like, I'm not spending all time and I'm like,
but go, like go, do it if it's what you
want to do, because I also know in the back
of my mind and be like, hey, girls, you want
to go do something than fun too?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know another another time? All yeah, day. I mean
they're but I know those YMVP. Yeah, there's some that
it's just real questionable. You don't even have track any
are they there? I don't know. I think we should
go golfing. I think we should go golfing.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I mean, there's gone for ten hours and we're like, yeah,
that's how long eighteen holes takes? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'd love to try it is long?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh. Denise Richard shows off a one million dollar check
she's never cash from ex Charlie Sheen, and she asks,
is it still good?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Listen Charlie Sheen or the check.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
TVD You guys, I can't imagine a world where I
wouldn't cash a million dollar check.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Ever, So they were I can divorce. What were they
divorced yet?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I need to know more of it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It was over a decade ago, so during her move
she wrote, you know, I never cashed it at Charlie
Sheen is still good? But I mean, I guess when
you have that much money, like, let's say, the Kardashian's
get a million dollar check, What does that really to them?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Their money?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Sure, but like goodness, well it's the It probably is
the feelings associated with it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah. I think there's people I definitely wouldn't cash.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I wouldn't cash checks from certain people in my life.
I think, what if it was child support? That's like
that sounds like a child support check. Well, like that's
again like, what's the money for them? Yeah, what's it?
What is the check for I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It sounds like a fight to me where he was
like they're like fight and was like, fine, here's your money,
take your money. And it was never like a real
like here's money. And so she didn't actually cash it.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Would you cash? It depends on the.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like what it was. Yeah, if it was in the
middle of a fight and I said this.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Is wild to Jaana that we wouldn't cash, I didn't
say I would cash. I said, it depends on the situation.
There's people so I'm an ex husband. If an ex
husband is.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And he says absolutely, if there's a million dollars in
the bank.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well I don't think he would. Can you I mean,
I guess you can.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Any check you want trust me. I've had plenty bounds,
not like I've been given to me. Oh yeah, that's
a whole other story.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But do people still write check?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I love a check. I'm sure that's not shocking to people.
I love the paperwork and the postage stamp.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You can write whatever you want that. It just feels
like this was like a disagreement, and yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Don't like it. I don't like that. I don't think
I like the tone in which the check was written,
and therefore I wouldn't catch it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh see, if I don't like the tone, I'm definitely well,
it's a different kind of dome if it's like you
take it.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's like, I'm just confused, Like if.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Someone's giving me a check, that means that they need
to Okay, I'll say this, if someone gave me a
uh a silencing check, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well, that's what I'm one. That's what I think going
to be only.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Asterisk that I would not catch, Like, yeah, cash a check.
If someone said I will give you this much to
be quiet about this, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like, oh I could see that being that situation.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah that's the case, then I wouldn't have been and
have cashed it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I need
to get on and tell us more details. Yeah, we
need denise online.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
One women ends her marriage of twenty five years. Guys,
I love this after her husband eats her slice of cake.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So which one of us is most likely to be
the one for a slice of cake? Because it's not
about the slice of cake. It's never about cake. It's
not about the football. I mean, you were getting on
to the trend. It's about football. It's not about the dishwasher.
It's not about football.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's not about the and listen, they've been having problems
for a while, so she basically, you know, put this
out on Reddit. She was, you know, they were having
a really rough last.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
You know, she said.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
She reflected on the years, uh after caring for this man,
being his made mother and sex object for twenty five years,
raising his kids, caring for her home, his finances, making
his freaking doctor's appointments. I can't even have my freaking
anniversary cake, she said. And I think there everyone comes
to that point in the end where it is the
smallest thing. Yeah, maybe to somebody else, but the fact
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that he ate her cake, it's like what else do
you know cake? Yeah, and had it too, like I'll
never forget Amy, our therapist. She was telling a story
about this woman who was abused every single day, I
mean physically abused from this man, over and over and
over and over, and it's like, no matter how hard
he hit her, choked her, the whole thing, but he
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took a bat to her grandmother's table that she had
gotten when he died, when her grandmother died, And she's like,
when he took that bat to my grandmother's table, She's like,
that was it. And she goes and Amy's like, but
he's been hitting you every day.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
She goes.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's the fact that he did that to something that
meant so so special to me and she ended up
leaving because of that. So it takes something that really
just and for this lady, it was the what the
meaning of taking the piece of cake was. And we
all have that moment. I mean I had it with
my you know, with my ex husband, you know. So
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it's never about the cake, yeah, I mean for yeah,
I mean I wrote about in the book so I
could say it. But it was when he threw the
clothes at me, and I just remember going after all this,
after fighting through so many years of all of your
infidelity over and over and over again, and all the
other things that I will not speak about. I'm getting
(33:37):
wet laundry chucked at me after having surgery and him
coming at me and mocking me for being upset and crying,
and it was just like I remember, just I didn't
have anger or rage. I just looked at him and
was like, I'm done, you know. And after that was
when I found out that he cheated again. Once I
went down the whole rabbit hole. That was because the
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next morning is when I found the thing, and that
was then obviously the real but that moment I almost
don't even think I need it.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I probably did.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm not gonna but you know, it was that moment
really truly, I'll never forget it. And then that's when
I was like, okay, Grandpa, like give me, give me
one more thing. And then the next morning was when
I saw the confirmation of affair again. So it's just
like a calm certainty when we hit that point, yeah,
and they really confident, like and we're done here.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, we're done. But that's the piece of cake.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I just started thinking about that because I'm like,
it's never about that the alls, It's just so much
more than that.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Divorce is never a piece of cake. We've learned our Listen.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hey there, my name is Lacey. I have a question
about traveling with kids to see the in laws on
the holidays. For my family to go visit my in laws,
it's going to be thousands of dollars to get down
there in plane tickets for a family of four, including
rental car and needing a place to stay. Everybody else
in the family is either single or newly married, so
they don't understand the financial burden of this trip. They
think it's not that big of a deal. I see
this as money that could be used for my kids
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Christmas or family vacation that we actually want to go on.
We can go see them any other time of the
year and it would be a lot cheaper. Am I
being selfish? And we just need to spend the money
to go see our family because that is what you
do for your family over the holidays. Are my kids
missing out by not being with her family over the holidays?
Or is this a healthy boundary to set for my
family about being smart with our money. When we can
(35:22):
go see them another time for less money.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I think it's a healthy boundary. I feel, like I
wrote in I'm Lazy. Yeah, Lacey and I think a
lot of like, Yah, it's tricky.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So we've discussed this too, because listen, there is a
world where we would love to see Alan's family for Christmas.
Of course, it is expensive to fly over there. We
don't have a place to stay. You know, their place
is smaller, so there isn't room for all of us,
so we would have to get an airbnb and then
a car, and so that really adds up. So I think, Lacey,
(35:56):
what I would just offer is if it's like a
once every couple years, you know, and yeah, we also
want to go see them too when the weather's nicer
in Scotland, you know, where we can go do more things.
So maybe that is when you and I don't think
it's taking away from your kids being with the family,
because you can make family memories.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Other times of the holidays. I love staying home for
the holidays, I really do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I do too. I really like to hunger down and
everyone is welcome. I always say, like open door, everyone's welcome,
you know. But I don't think it's selfish of you
at all, and I think it's good to be conscious
of that as well.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
And I think it's a good shift when you have
kids like we, you know, like we obviously want our
kids home at Christmas morning, Like that really matters to
me more I think than Preston, because even the year
he's like we should go do something, I'm like, no,
it's like that feeling in our home, like it's just special.
And things shift when you have kids, and I wonder
if there's a way that they could maybe be proactive.
(36:53):
This is like laughable at least in our families. I
feel like our schedules but proactive and know these dates
ahead of time, so you do have a better chance
maybe at getting things discounted or getting it done early
because that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I think it's it's hard to spend a lot of
money around Christmas time to so hard and tru to
understand that.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And they jack up all the prices. It's just really
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's an and the stress that I think,
you know, you don't even want you know, if you're
not even you don't want to, but if you're already
feeling that way and then add that stress of more money.
I think you set that healthy boundary.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, stay home lazy, come hang out with us lazy
for you too, Yes, ladies, we got to get ready.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
See you guys next week by
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, ladies, we got to keep it kind of short today,
Short and sweet.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Short and sweet, it's premiere day. I'm so excited for you.
How are you feeling? You're excited? Catherine knows how I feel.
I know. That's why I'm asking the question because.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's like one of those things where I'm very excited.
Of course, I think it's going to be so fun
to be with friends.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Jolie. I mean, she woke up this morning and she
was just like, are you excited for the premiere?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know? And she you know, she's like, I'm excited,
So she's she's really pumped. I think it's twofold. I
feel I always will like talk down to myself about it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh I don't like that. Well, that's just who I am.
It's just real. Well I say it, and I do that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To myself by that, which I don't like right at
the same time, but I also it's not that I
live with like haters in my head. But if anything,
like I'm my loudest hater, right, does that makes sense?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So and I even you know, my girlfriend's from Michigan,
flew in. You know, it's so sweet. But even last night,
I'm like, guys, I'm going and being like such your
standards low so and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Stop, like this is a movie. I'm like, yeah, but
it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah it is, but like it's still you know, again,
there is nothing against I this is such a good
Christmas I don't want anyone to take this as this
is such a cute Christmas film, but like, listen, it's
still a Christmas film. I don't know, you, guys, I'm
sounding like I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Know what you're trying to say. I know because you're
thinking it's not like.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We all know to love actually holiday, and maybe it is.
And also you and Ben did so well together that
I think you're gonna surprise yourself. I just know what
it is. And again I'm not saying the movie is.
The movie is so great. It's so cute and special,
and I want everyone to go see it in theaters
November six, because it's so great that it gets, you know,
(02:20):
a couple of weeks run in theater. Not many movies
get to do that. So it's so amazing that Karen
is giving the opportunity for this film.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I just also.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like I would make the comments like if I ever
get to the Emmys one day, I promise I'll bring
you guys back for that, Like you know, and I
just basically talk myself down because I know it's not
that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You're afraid, you're afraid people's expectations are going to be
something like name the biggest movie you can think of
in a theater, and you're afraid they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
To be let down. Well obviously, Well.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm just saying that's why you want to go in
there and set everyone's expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Because I mean it is just like it's like, yes,
it has different heart than a Hallmark or a Lifetime,
but it's still the same. It's a family friendly, which
is also puts it in a class right Like Karen
even said herself she didn't want any scenes where kids
had to leave, right yeah, And so it still has
that element you need to remember too though this is
(03:18):
something I kind of deal with in our little orbit.
This is still a movie premiere, so like, I've never
been to a movie premiere before, and I'm behemped and
so like it's exciting for us and even at its
most wholesome, movie moment. It's still a movie premiere for
(03:41):
your friends from Michigan, from this friend from Michigan, for KitKat,
Like absolutely, this is exciting. My kids are over the moon.
His whole baseball team he's missing a game tonight, and
his whole baseball team is like what legends in a movie,
you know, like there's still this is what I love
and appreciate about film and movie and that like it's
(04:02):
the spotlight life that gives all of us back like
our inner like ten and eleven year old and I
just can't wait.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And so for all of us living in it, we
get to be little kids that are doing something super cool. Yeah,
and so it's already cool enough, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But I think there is something well there that was
my good try and fail worse out. I think we
are our own critics. We are the lesson here.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That is the lesson is we are we of course
we also know where we want to be too agreed.
But also you know, to the hater in my head,
you know, not many people get to have be in movies.
You know, there's so many people that have auditioned for
(04:53):
years and don't get to be the leads in a film.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I remember seeing something where it's someone was saying, you
know second, like she's never the first pick, and I'm like, well, list,
I'm on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's like that's something where I'm trying to change that
perspective too, where it's like, yeah, but are you on
a list?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And also think about the fact that you get to
bring your kids to this movie. That's so incredible. If
you were on something like Hunting Wives and doing the preview,
no a premiere, no one could come, do you know
what I mean? Well, somebody could pun intended, but it's
like wild because you get to So this is so fitting.
It's a such an anointed season that you're doing what
you love, You're getting paid to do what you love.
You're providing for your family with doing what your love.
(05:37):
And do you get to bring your kids to watch it?
And my kids too for that matter.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, No, I'm so excited. I mean, it's gonna be
it's gonna be fun. I can't wait to get all
dressed up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Have you done a movie premiere like this for yourself before?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean it was a million years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So what Supporting the Girls was with Regina Hall? That
was when I was pregnant, I think with Jase Gosh,
I can't remember. It was so long ago. Uh so
I've done yeah, yeah, but it's been a minute. Yeah,
because a lot of these movies just go straight to.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well there's an acquisition.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean in my like, I was just thinking when
you were talking about this again, my kid's head, there's
no difference between you being on the TV at their
house and at a movie theater.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, Well, the value of a theater has really gone down,
It truly has, and most didies only stay in for
a couple of weeks, right, And it's I think more
people are like, well, well can we stream it? Because
I run the same thing. I don't really want to
go to the theater unless it's going to see one
of the big you know, top guns or something like
that that needs that big cinematic view.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, I still love a theater, but I just
think that's still such kind of an old school view.
Like again, my kids aren't thinking like, oh, it's in
the theater, like is it going to be on the TV?
Like they don't even think, you know, they don't think
about that. So I think you seeing the positive in
that and how great that is to still be able
to you know, but I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You're definitely your biggest.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I know for sure we're the same, and but I'm here.
That's why we you have us. Yeah, we'll just drown
that out for you. Yeah, and it'll be it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think it'll be a nice little moment for everyone
to get together.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And more importantly, are you doing our makeup? Because that's
what you do for wind down?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And I asked, I did.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I texted Cat this morning and I also do yours too,
But I said, you know, hey, girl, I'll have time
if you want me to do your makeup?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Soointment appointment? Do you need help to well? I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I mean, I feel like I'm starting to get better.
But I think I just love I mean, she already
has me in the books for B and I award.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was like, hey, wondering if I can slide into.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Your baylist hair makeups? Like we got a team we're
going to help when you're going to just touch up
before I leave?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, for sure, if you just get here at a
certain time and then and then that would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I can absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So hard for me to be like, hey, Cramer, You've
a movie premiere tonight and like your hair and makeup
is from three If you did, I mean you and
like be like, do you mind doing my mate?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Like it's just would be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So hard for I mean, I've never even thought about
it because you're just so busy today too. But she offered,
and I was like, that is so sweet. I can't
cancel now and they'll charge me, But that is so sweet.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's also not normal, but also like it's yourself ready,
you're too sweet thinking about other people.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I just I want you guys to feel beautiful, I know,
feel so cute, and you do my makeup.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So we'll have a fun little rundown of how I mean,
I hope a fun I'm going to be how the
premiere goes fantastic. Yeah, I just I Karen's like if
you want to say a speech, and I'm like, this
is where I'm from my body, Yeah, this is where
I shove Christen into the front of a mic and
then she gets mad at me.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, so here's that. It's going to be amazing. Are
you going to say a speech?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Honey?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I most likely will just just say thank you say
to Ben like you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh man, Oh, Ben will be good at that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, Yes, Ben's great, perfect all right. So that is
the opening update here, ladies. Do we have a wine
about it?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I do good.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I'm and I am going to go down in a
ball of flames for what I'm about to say next.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But I will say though, kat so many people.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh, I got really so many messages, and I mean
people that I know that I did not know that
listened several people actually, and I'm like, oh wow, and
like just the sweetest, Like one person even was like
not to but one person was like, I've seen who
your child hanging out with. Now she's doing great, great
(09:37):
group of friends.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like just making I was like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I didn't even know you listened or barely even know.
I mean, like that is so sweet, Like I really
needed to hear that.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I think the blessing and the curses. We don't know
how many people listen, right, yeah, Like I don't know,
so I just assume we're listens.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I but you know, yeah, you know Nick said to
me now night, like okay, at this point, you know
she listens, Hi, mom.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Board cackle. We'll find out. I just want to say
really fast before we win.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I just want to say though too, when you
had texted us that saying like, well got confirmation, my
mom listens, and you know, I thought about it for
a second. You didn't say anything. It's and you also
said what you felt. I felt as if she didn't care,
and that is a feeling where as a parent we
might miss, even as us being parents, like did we
(10:37):
miss that they felt that way? So it's the fact
that how your mom went about it is what I
loved her wanting to be a sit down is what
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Would she say her Her text was actually super sweet.
It was an apology and would love to sit down,
and she even said in the text she said I
did care, So it was very sweet. I haven't responded
yet and not I got it really late last night,
and I just want to like think through your respect
and I don't want to just like be like, oh
thank you know, like so I want to think through
my response.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So but actually I loved that. Yeah, I love that,
even that message, how she went about the message. And
then there's healing that could possibly happen. And then again
I just started thinking, I'm like, man, what am I
missing that My kiddos you know that I'm going to
make them feel probably a certain way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And we all are.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And that's the thing I do think parents. No one
gets it completely right, nobody.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean, my god, I almost said favorite last week
and that that that like when I thought that back,
and I'm like, how could I even say it, like,
because I don't have a favorite, like I love my kid,
you know, and I don't want to Jolie to ever
listen to something and be like, right, what because it's
not true. You know, It's just we have different soul connections.
I don't think there's right, you know, so yeah, absolutely,
(11:50):
but I think through that is a really sweet thing
that your mom reached out in that way and that
way you guys can have a conversation. And it's beautiful
that you expressed it because so many people feel the
same way, because I do think we take on what
we lacked as kids from our parents.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yep, and a lot of I mean I got a
lot of the middle schools hard oh my daughter, but
a lot of like, hey, I didn't feel like my
mom was paying attention or that my mom cared or whatever.
And it's not like all these moms don't care. I mean,
at the end of the day, we know that they care.
It's just how things were maybe handled that we take
into our adulthood.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And then we also like try we analyzed what we Yeah,
like my dad wouldn't have cared if I went to
school with a bathing suit on, right, you know what
I mean, Like dads are like that, and then they're
you know, like right, and then my mom, you know,
my mom would have been you know, I shouldn't care
that I wasn't taking tests, So that made me think
she didn't care. But well, you know, there's just there's
just so much, so many things that we can take.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Also had their whole lives, Like both my parents were working.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Well that was the other thing and part of what
I was at time, And I'm like, yeah, all the time, Yeah,
my parents were always working.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So I look back and I'm like, she may not.
I've even known half the time, right, you know, so
we have open enough to even tell that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's like all a part of a big discussion, you know.
So maybe it wasn't fair for me to just say
she didn't care.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You didn't say that, That's not it made me feel
like she didn't care. That's a totally different thought than
she didn't care right.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, Yeah, for sure and absolutely and we all are
those are all valid feelings.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's so hard to see you cry though I watch
the I know it just but thank you for being vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So I love about the show.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
All right, Katie, Mine's not going well. Mine's definitely not
groundbreaking coming off the heels of that. But I think
I hate football.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What that is awful? I think I do.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I I know I'm going to go down in the
ball of flying car yep, and I'm prepared for it
because six seven.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They're sending all of us into a spiral. Here's the deal.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I see you NFL, and I see you whatever league
college is, and I see you sneaking into every single
day of our lives. Slowly, it needs to be slowly.
It used to be Monday night football. Now it's Thursday
night football. And then there's Sunday football. And I'm like,
the every day is a game.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
If you could just like college, it's only Saturday mostly.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Oh yeah, then there's Saturday football. I mean the an
NFL gets to be and it's starting in October, and
we talk.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
About your disdain yeah, where is the first?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So I'd like to say I'm really proud of the
Detroit Lions. I think we can all agree on that.
But I think the part that frustrates me is that, like.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Any no, no, I'm not crying, but whether I throw
my husband under.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
The fu we all know that you hating football. Why
would you hating football have anything to do other than
your husband watching football when you don't want it, to
watch it?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We already know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh no, but I was gonna go thirty thousand feet.
They don't use that as a clip about me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The amount of times that we've all wanted to go
thirty thousand feet, Like if someone says if someone called
me passive aggressive, like who.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh, you guys are so good.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Anyways, it's I just don't get to watch a program
at three thirty in the afternoon. I don't get to
arrange my day around something starting at three thirty in
the afternoon. Do you know what it would take you do?
Because you'd have to do it too for us to
have everything done, we need done on a Sunday afternoon
by three thirty to be able to sit for hours
and watch a game.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I have such devil's advocate for you right now? Oh
can I well you're ready to go?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Cat?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Is this your inner football lover? Or is this just
you reframing it for me?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So I don't wait. Can I just time out really fast? Please?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Girl? I feel like I'm under a deck, and anybody
out there please damn me and tell me you don't
like it either.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, I'm sure plenty of people. I just want to
get it right. Does so.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He plans to make sure he's home for every game
or for his team.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Only his team only. He's a Colts fan. Oh, I know,
rough right. Maybe if it was Lions, I might feel different.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
He does support the Lions though, Okay, so they only
play once a week, but there's always a game, so so,
but he'll still come to He'll watch the other teams too, Yeah,
but not as like intensely. He loves his Colts. He
loves his Colt socks. It's really cute.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But the days are rearranged for yeah, like it's more
of a priority for him. Copy that, And he doesn't
get to see anything all of the time because he's
working so much. So I try to I'm kind in
my brain, you know, I'm making chili and I'm making
snacks and I try, but there's always when we have
the guys on next, we have to pin this because
(17:03):
he always says, Oh, I wish you would just sit
and watch the game with musht a wife the sat
and watch the game with me.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And I'm like, I wish that's a bit passive, is it.
I'm ready to murder. I wish a lot of things.
I wish I had a husband that was doing all
the under dishes and bagging lunches for tomorrow and doing
the homework so that she could sit and watch a
game on her ass for two hours.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You're all got up. I think I ate football. That's
my wine about that, Catherine, go okay, get gass.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So my first question to you was why why if
Okay so football his is his priority. Yours is obviously
not football or maybe something else.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
But I don't get to watch my priorities when they
come out. But why not because I'm doing it all,
doing it all, and I can make a priority if
I want to watch something.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You're never delayed watching something when it comes out if
it's that big of a priority to me. And again,
we did get to sex and the City though we
had just like.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That, just it's like everyone comes down, not comes down
to me. That's not what I'm gonna say at all.
It's like everyone points out to me, if working out
was truly a priority of mine, then I would make
the time. And I one hundred percent agree with everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But wouldn't you agree that? Like, so this is what's hard.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I think like those things can be done in pockets
or rearranged. But like a game is a set time. Yes,
so you know the game is at three thirty, So
what is I don't want to have to know the
game's at three thirty. In fact, I would like to
not know what ever existed. And I would like us
to get all of our shit done.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
What is all this you have to get done on
Sunday at three thirty by three thirty?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Well, for me, it's the prep for the week, the
food prep for the week, it's the homework, making sure
that we're all caught up, and all the projects and
blah blah blah. You know, like I like laundry done,
I like a tea up for the week. Sundays really matter,
right me?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So that's your priority, right his priority?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And that is oh I know, so well kick off again.
This is coming from the Alabama loving would it? When
we first were together. Wouldn't go to a wedding, would it?
And we've had plenty of fights about.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It, like, wait, who loves Alabama? Nick?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
My husband? Why his whole family's from Alabama? Oh yeah,
huge Alabama fans. And this is like when we were
first together, it was like if it was you know, Bama.
I mean, it's still if Bama's playing, But we've come
a long way.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We've had a long way. They're very passionate people, those fans.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But you know what I learned, honestly, like I started
looking at it going I mean, if he meets a
Saturday for four hours, like, why am I mad?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I had to like evaluate that.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Well, that's the other thing because it's not over. It's
never over. Have you noticed it's only four more minutes
on the clock. I'm like, that's another hour. I think
it's freaking wild. It's the game that never ends.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I just have learned through getting upset with my own husband.
So that's what I'm saying. I'm playing Tivil's advocate in
the way that it's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Just gonna be so mad at me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That you kind of let that go because no, granted
I can sit and watch something like I.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Don't like I'm a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I am like, if you know what, Sunday's a rest day? Yes,
I like, it's the Sabbath. It's a prep day, which.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We don't watch NFL. We really only watch well you
save it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Anyway, So it's Saturday days in our in our house,
you know, And we had sports when they were younger
and stuff, which he would never miss a sport for Alabama,
you know. I mean he never did that, like a
kid's sport or something. But we just kind of knew,
like it goes on the calendar, that's when the Bama
game is. If we don't have something, we're home and
we're watching the Bama game, you know. And so I
just think there's a way that maybe you could framework
(20:39):
it and more of a positive. So you're not angry
at him, because I was angry a lot and I
didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I don't like it, and I don't want to
be angry because I love you. Also evaluated why you
were angry.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. He works really hard, so
I want him to have the break. Yeah, I think
it's hard because it's always on a Sunday, and it's
like coming on the heels of I'm doing this all
by myself, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Sure, And I get to so and now you're home
and you're resting, and I don't rest in our home really,
so I feel like you need to rest. I do.
I think that that might be the it's maybe less
about Cale I.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Do, because here's the thing. I used to also get
mad about fishing. And what I evaluated was I was
mad that I was in an office building and I
couldn't leave, but that he got to stay home and
he could choose when he went fishing. So I had
to get to the bottom of that, like why do
I care that he's going fishing right now? This doesn't
affect me in the least, But it was because he
(21:34):
got to do something I didn't get to do.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
So I love when he fishes and hunts interesting, right.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
But that is I think it's only occasional and it's outdoors.
It feels more productive, it seems like because it's every
Sunday or Monday. Sure, this where it probably feels a
little bit more than the occasional time that they go
to Lee's property. And hunt ducks or whatever they did,
whatever they do. Yeah, yeah, okay, turkey, there we go. Yeah,
(22:02):
so you know that's probably and then I can I
totally get you being frustrated coming off of doing right,
but you deserve But then kind of like what Catherine
was saying is you deserve something too, so flip it.
So personally, for me, I do the laundry while I
(22:22):
watch football, and it's like my favorite time because Alan's
not yes he's a football soccer watcher, but like I'm
the football watcher. He knows that that when the Lions play,
I would like to have it on. But what I
do during that time, because it's hard for me to
also just sit and watches. I do all the laundry,
so I'm being yeah, being you know, active, but also
(22:45):
you know, watching the game, and Alan will come and
sit with me, you know, you know, try to fall
But I personally did love folding the laundry.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, he comes it.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So if you could do that then with him, then
you're then you're doing something with him. Okay, we're gonna,
we're gonna yeah, and I'm going to report back, but
also I'm gonna I want to offer something else though,
is say to him like, hey, after or before the game,
can I have an hour to go for a walk
or something that you want to do for yourself on
(23:15):
that day, Because when you get something for yourself, when
they get something to it just I'm not saying it's
tit for tat, but it's also the resentment peace will
go away because you got.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Something for yourself too. Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, And I feel like most men, I mean I
would would gladly. It's just half the time we.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Don't ask yes that. And that's that's the piece that's been.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Really good at asking you. I know that you too,
y'all aren't asking well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But I do. I do for like my workouts where
it's like today your day. So I'm like, hey, can
can you drop Roman off at school today? He's like oh,
He's like I got a client and I'm like, I
was like listen, babe. I was like, I am stretched
to like the minute here, and I said, I I
need to run and this is my only hour that
I can run in Sana And he's like one hundred
percent absolutely, you know, And then like for him, he'll say,
(24:03):
you know, like okay, cool, I'll move it to here.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Do you can you get him out that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was like absolutely, so like and then he'll have
his time for for what he needs to do. So
it's really just like ebbing and flowing of what we
both need. And that way there's no resentment because if
he's just doing one thing and I'm just like, oh,
I would have liked that, then that's where resentment's going.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
To track you. That's my sentence. On both sides. It
is usually my sentence, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well exactly, and it's so it's like you have to
then add so I've been the advocate now to ask
for myself because I love how he's like, yeah, I'm
going I'm like, well, that must be awesome to feel
that great to be Hey, he's like, I'm going to
the gym for the next you know, two hours, and
I'm like, okay, cool, because I also know now that
I can do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Hey, I'm got about two hours. You know. It's the
guilt trip. It's like, wish you had a wife that
comes suit with and I'm like, that's not cool. Well
that's not fair. And that's what I told him.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I said, I want I would love We're not actually
in a season to sit for two hours. We're just
not we have a two year old like well, it's
hard to say, but that's any.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But also also what we started doing is we would
go up and when they were little, we'd go up
in the playroom where it was completely and I've made
it a priority to sit there and watch the game
and watch the kid run around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I hope pressons'll listen to this because you're a champion.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
No, and it's not that again, I'm coming from a
place about how you were.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I am a vegetarian's scared of heights, and I've been
in a deer stand a thousand times in my life
with it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I never because it's important to him. Yeah, and I
think I just want to get some credibility back because
I think I'm going down. No, No, I'm trying to
help you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And I do think there's a part of me that
thinks that you might enjoy if you change your mindset
for one Sunday afternoon. You know how fun it is
to actually just sit on the couch with their family
and watch a football game.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's actually great, and eat some snacks and I make
great snacks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The kids make so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Also do this too. I'm not I'm offering. Maybe sorry
not to be like do this, but the kids make posters.
They get excited for it. So you love doing arts
and crafts. And I actually love sports. I'm a Detroit
make it a thing. I'm a Tigers fan.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I love baseball Like this is not it's I just
am like Monday nights, Gaday night, Thursday night, Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
How many days does a sport need?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, that's why her question on is is she he's
supporting one team or all team?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And I will say that that does matter, and the credibility.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
His credibility is that he'll say, oh, this game, I
don't care about this game.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, like he doesn't we watch.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
We still watch our shows together and we get in
there's a game on, or he'll be you know, and they.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Get older and football is on.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'll even sometimes be like, hey, Nick, there's football and
he's like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Like if we're home, great, he'll watch. If we're not.
On Sunday, I have football on all day just because
I I like the sound of it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I love I really do. I love I love watching
teams I don't even know. But if it's something I'm
not gonna sit for it. If it's not the Lions,
amen micirl or a change, I would the cold kind
of game he needs me to.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
If person's listening, I'm still on your side.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I like, so two things you need to report back
to us, Okay, one of the sundays sit with him
and do laundry and and chill with the kid kids
have have it be fun. So you're checking that off.
But then also either before after the game, I want
you to ask for something for yourself, okay, because we
do not need Resentment is the killer of relationships. So
(27:14):
we do not need that resentment trapping anybody. No, because
I know when I'm resentful of someone's.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, no, no vice versa. For this conversation, oh so good,
thank you for I don't know why. I just like love.
I think I'm gonna get a lot of hate, but
I'm okay with that. No, I think I try.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And I think a lot of women too would say
they hate golf because it's all when when the men
go for trips, you know, eighteen And I like beg
Alan because he likes to golf.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm like, go.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He's like, I'm not spending all time and I'm like,
but go, like go, do it if it's what you
want to do, because I also know in the back
of my mind and be like, hey, girls, you want
to go do something than fun too?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know another another time? All yeah, day. I mean
they're but I know those YMVP. Yeah, there's some that
it's just real questionable. You don't even have track any
are they there? I don't know. I think we should
go golfing. I think we should go golfing.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I mean, there's gone for ten hours and we're like, yeah,
that's how long eighteen holes takes? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'd love to try it is long?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh. Denise Richard shows off a one million dollar check
she's never cash from ex Charlie Sheen, and she asks,
is it still good?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Listen Charlie Sheen or the check.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
TVD You guys, I can't imagine a world where I
wouldn't cash a million dollar check.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Ever, So they were I can divorce. What were they
divorced yet?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I need to know more of it.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It was over a decade ago, so during her move
she wrote, you know, I never cashed it at Charlie
Sheen is still good? But I mean, I guess when
you have that much money, like, let's say, the Kardashian's
get a million dollar check, What does that really to them?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Their money?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Sure, but like goodness, well it's the It probably is
the feelings associated with it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah. I think there's people I definitely wouldn't cash.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I wouldn't cash checks from certain people in my life.
I think, what if it was child support? That's like
that sounds like a child support check. Well, like that's
again like, what's the money for them? Yeah, what's it?
What is the check for I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It sounds like a fight to me where he was
like they're like fight and was like, fine, here's your money,
take your money. And it was never like a real
like here's money. And so she didn't actually cash it.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Would you cash? It depends on the.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like what it was. Yeah, if it was in the
middle of a fight and I said this.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Is wild to Jaana that we wouldn't cash, I didn't
say I would cash. I said, it depends on the situation.
There's people so I'm an ex husband. If an ex
husband is.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And he says absolutely, if there's a million dollars in
the bank.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well I don't think he would. Can you I mean,
I guess you can.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Any check you want trust me. I've had plenty bounds,
not like I've been given to me. Oh yeah, that's
a whole other story.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But do people still write check?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I love a check. I'm sure that's not shocking to people.
I love the paperwork and the postage stamp.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You can write whatever you want that. It just feels
like this was like a disagreement, and yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Don't like it. I don't like that. I don't think
I like the tone in which the check was written,
and therefore I wouldn't catch it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh see, if I don't like the tone, I'm definitely well,
it's a different kind of dome if it's like you
take it.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's like, I'm just confused, Like if.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Someone's giving me a check, that means that they need
to Okay, I'll say this, if someone gave me a
uh a silencing check, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well, that's what I'm one. That's what I think going
to be only.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Asterisk that I would not catch, Like, yeah, cash a check.
If someone said I will give you this much to
be quiet about this, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like, oh I could see that being that situation.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah that's the case, then I wouldn't have been and
have cashed it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I need
to get on and tell us more details. Yeah, we
need denise online.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
One women ends her marriage of twenty five years. Guys,
I love this after her husband eats her slice of cake.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So which one of us is most likely to be
the one for a slice of cake? Because it's not
about the slice of cake. It's never about cake. It's
not about the football. I mean, you were getting on
to the trend. It's about football. It's not about the dishwasher.
It's not about football.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's not about the and listen, they've been having problems
for a while, so she basically, you know, put this
out on Reddit. She was, you know, they were having
a really rough last.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
You know, she said.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
She reflected on the years, uh after caring for this man,
being his made mother and sex object for twenty five years,
raising his kids, caring for her home, his finances, making
his freaking doctor's appointments. I can't even have my freaking
anniversary cake, she said. And I think there everyone comes
to that point in the end where it is the
smallest thing. Yeah, maybe to somebody else, but the fact
(32:16):
that he ate her cake, it's like what else do
you know cake? Yeah, and had it too, like I'll
never forget Amy, our therapist. She was telling a story
about this woman who was abused every single day, I
mean physically abused from this man, over and over and
over and over, and it's like, no matter how hard
he hit her, choked her, the whole thing, but he
(32:37):
took a bat to her grandmother's table that she had
gotten when he died, when her grandmother died, And she's like,
when he took that bat to my grandmother's table, She's like,
that was it. And she goes and Amy's like, but
he's been hitting you every day.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
She goes.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's the fact that he did that to something that
meant so so special to me and she ended up
leaving because of that. So it takes something that really
just and for this lady, it was the what the
meaning of taking the piece of cake was. And we
all have that moment. I mean I had it with
my you know, with my ex husband, you know. So
(33:14):
it's never about the cake, yeah, I mean for yeah,
I mean I wrote about in the book so I
could say it. But it was when he threw the
clothes at me, and I just remember going after all this,
after fighting through so many years of all of your
infidelity over and over and over again, and all the
other things that I will not speak about. I'm getting
(33:37):
wet laundry chucked at me after having surgery and him
coming at me and mocking me for being upset and crying,
and it was just like I remember, just I didn't
have anger or rage. I just looked at him and
was like, I'm done, you know. And after that was
when I found out that he cheated again. Once I
went down the whole rabbit hole. That was because the
(33:58):
next morning is when I found the thing, and that
was then obviously the real but that moment I almost
don't even think I need it.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I probably did.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm not gonna but you know, it was that moment
really truly, I'll never forget it. And then that's when
I was like, okay, Grandpa, like give me, give me
one more thing. And then the next morning was when
I saw the confirmation of affair again. So it's just
like a calm certainty when we hit that point, yeah,
and they really confident, like and we're done here.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, we're done. But that's the piece of cake.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I just started thinking about that because I'm like,
it's never about that the alls, It's just so much
more than that.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Divorce is never a piece of cake. We've learned our Listen.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hey there, my name is Lacey. I have a question
about traveling with kids to see the in laws on
the holidays. For my family to go visit my in laws,
it's going to be thousands of dollars to get down
there in plane tickets for a family of four, including
rental car and needing a place to stay. Everybody else
in the family is either single or newly married, so
they don't understand the financial burden of this trip. They
think it's not that big of a deal. I see
this as money that could be used for my kids
(35:01):
Christmas or family vacation that we actually want to go on.
We can go see them any other time of the
year and it would be a lot cheaper. Am I
being selfish? And we just need to spend the money
to go see our family because that is what you
do for your family over the holidays. Are my kids
missing out by not being with her family over the holidays?
Or is this a healthy boundary to set for my
family about being smart with our money. When we can
(35:22):
go see them another time for less money.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I think it's a healthy boundary. I feel, like I
wrote in I'm Lazy. Yeah, Lacey and I think a
lot of like, Yah, it's tricky.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So we've discussed this too, because listen, there is a
world where we would love to see Alan's family for Christmas.
Of course, it is expensive to fly over there. We
don't have a place to stay. You know, their place
is smaller, so there isn't room for all of us,
so we would have to get an airbnb and then
a car, and so that really adds up. So I think, Lacey,
(35:56):
what I would just offer is if it's like a
once every couple years, you know, and yeah, we also
want to go see them too when the weather's nicer
in Scotland, you know, where we can go do more things.
So maybe that is when you and I don't think
it's taking away from your kids being with the family,
because you can make family memories.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Other times of the holidays. I love staying home for
the holidays, I really do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I do too. I really like to hunger down and
everyone is welcome. I always say, like open door, everyone's welcome,
you know. But I don't think it's selfish of you
at all, and I think it's good to be conscious
of that as well.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
And I think it's a good shift when you have
kids like we, you know, like we obviously want our
kids home at Christmas morning, Like that really matters to
me more I think than Preston, because even the year
he's like we should go do something, I'm like, no,
it's like that feeling in our home, like it's just special.
And things shift when you have kids, and I wonder
if there's a way that they could maybe be proactive.
(36:53):
This is like laughable at least in our families. I
feel like our schedules but proactive and know these dates
ahead of time, so you do have a better chance
maybe at getting things discounted or getting it done early
because that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I think it's it's hard to spend a lot of
money around Christmas time to so hard and tru to
understand that.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And they jack up all the prices. It's just really
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's an and the stress that I think,
you know, you don't even want you know, if you're
not even you don't want to, but if you're already
feeling that way and then add that stress of more money.
I think you set that healthy boundary.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, stay home lazy, come hang out with us lazy
for you too, Yes, ladies, we got to get ready.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
See you guys next week by
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