July 24, 2023 • 48 mins
Fan favorite Tamra Judge joins Jana to talk about her return to the “Real Housewives of Orange County”! She says it’s like going back to a bad boyfriend… what does that mean??
Tamra lets Jana in on the real drama happening behind the scenes and how her husband is handling the constant filming.
Plus, find out how Jana reacted when she caught a guy watching a sporting event on his phone…during her show!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So Hot Hormonal, Welcome back, christ I'm hot and hormonal
and this is wind down. How you feeling, KB, You're
a You're You're no more baby in the belly. I'm
out of the house. How's it feel to be out
of the house. It feels good. I've actually got you
into botox.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I've gone to hair, I've gone to nails, all the things.
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Did you see Eric at Nails, Spring Nails? I did
see Eric at Spring Nails.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, sweet sweet man and his wife Lily shout out,
shout out to Spring Nails.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Spring.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The problem with Eric and Lily is that they're married
and then when they go on vacation for six weeks,
they got to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Get Sylvia too. I'm like Sylvia, She's like, I'm going
to Korea for three months, and I'm like, oh, I
mean she takes Johnny and then we're all up the creek.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I actually ran into them at an airport. I remember
seeing Johnny. He goes hi, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like Hi, but it took me a second ago. Where
do I know you from? And I was like Johnny.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then Sylvia came over and I was like wow,
and I didn't know what to say. Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I was so like, you know, because it's like
what do you talk about?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I was like, my nails still look really good.
I was like I just need to stop.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Wow. It was like, this is like you know your people.
It's like seeing your characters out of Disneyland or something.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, it's like did I see them there? We wouldn't
know because the characters, because I'm only Mickey at the
grocery store. It's like it's so.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Weird that I've only seen them at Spring. I've never
seen them anywhere else because they go anywhere. I'm sure
they do. I've just I never sit down and it
is different settings. That's why I was just like, wow,
look at you in the wild.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Johnny at BNA. This is crazy. Everyone hates us?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Okay is it?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The gang gets back together? Okay, you girls, it's just
this over zoom and it is. Do you want to
tell everybody about the email that you're crafting right now?
Or do you want to put a pin in that
we have few pins? We have a lot of pins. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I started to text you something the other day and
I was like, actually, pin this, but I don't remember
what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Are you serious? Good? Pin? Go to notes?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No, I'll just I'm going to go to code word
pin in my conversations and see where we were, and
I'll probably remember.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And scrolls gotta you gotta like read.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I can't scroll back to where you and I have
been because we've been a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I really texted much friend, because you've been so busy. Oh,
washing of the paint? Yes, no idea, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Wait, how did this?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay? So okay, what happened was? You're going to get
in a little text. Let's see, easy, easy grammer.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know, I know, remember that one thing you said
the day? Okay, it's fine. I feel just as left
out as you guys do. I said, how was therapy? Yes?
She was so so, so good. I want to read
along with you because I'm nervous. I would like to edit. Oh, Amy,
take all my money. I was going to leave that
one out. I need her to.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then she sends me a photo of this. I
don't know if you guys don't see it, but it's her.
Well you'all can't see it unless you're watching this or now.
But the hand with it looks like a it's a
cross with I thought maybe they were. I'm like, okay,
that's either either a cross or it's like a knife,
you know, or not a knife, but what a sword?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You see the sword too? Because because she says she
gave me war paint. Has she told you about the
washing of the paint. It's incredible? And I was like, oh,
she hasn't she was, And then that's when you said pinned, pinned.
She was released in person because he will love text
me do it justice?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I go, ah, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah we can unpin.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I hope I do it justice because it's really special
and when I super sentimental. But if it doesn't hit
with you guys and we're just you're gonna hear this cool,
it takes some pressure off. So I you know, the
last year two years have really just been extra heavy. Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Lost the five people in eleven months, one being my dad.
Today is actually two years since he passed away. So
what do you say that he's a sorry, No, I
think we just moved just or just like yeah, it's
not funny. That was probably a good response like, no,
I really feel like it's fine. Like if I think
(04:54):
if I gave you a dramatic pause, you could and
I feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just don't give a dramatic pause. What I think I
would do normally, I'd be like, do you want to
talk about it? Or are we just? Are we good? Yeah,
we're pushing, We're pushing, we feel good about we're soldiering. Yeah,
war paint.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I go to Amy and I'm telling her about
the delivery, and m also.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I have nothing to say that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And at the end, she goes, have you ever heard
of this tribe of Native Americans? And I'm going, I
don't remember the name? She said so quick and also
forgive me for no sleep, but I can dig and
find this because she'll send me everything. But she says,
there's this tribe that most tribes when they come back
(05:38):
from war, they wash off their war paint, and there's
one tribe that really like soaks in the sacredness of
the war paint and they don't wash the paint so
that everyone in the village can see that they've been
through something and that they have gone through something hard.
And so she was like, as she's telling me this
(05:58):
She's got out her red paint and she's like, I
need your arms, and she's painting. She was, I want
you to know that I see you, and that you've
been through something hard, and that you've been through these
battles and that you're doing a great job. And I
want this to just wash off as slowly as you
want to wash it off, but to note so that
you know, I see that you've been through war.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And then you I'm sure you were sobbing, sobbing, yeah,
and it was just to be acknowledged. Is like the
piece that it's like you just want to be seen
and when you feel so unseen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, then that's like I remember.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Going through the miscarriage and wishing that I could just
wear like a shirt that was like just be fragile,
you know, like handle with care. And she said, that's
essentially that that's what this is. And I just thought
it was so beautiful and also like just what a
special thing to even consider. You know, how long did
you wear it for? For as long as I as
(06:51):
long as it wouldn't wash off. I do think it's
probably like hunting paint or something, so it kind of
like rolls off, but I never scrubbed it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I wore it for a few days. Did he
ask about it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He did, Okay, hmmm, no he did. He was like,
what's that? And I said, well, this is explained and
he was like this is a real artist comment. He goes,
that's something I would do. I wouldn't wash off my
war paint. And I was like, okay, right, But.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
For different it was like the hard life of Look.
I was like, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You wouldn't wash off your war paying because you wouldn't
want everyone to know what you've.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Been out to, not because because you don't want to
do an interview about it. Okay, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I was like, okay, I think we're missing something. But
that was before I was spray tanning, and so there
was a lot going on. I was like, I have
war paint, you have spray tan We just need to
keep moving this forward. It's sentimental as this moment really is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, I'm glad you got to have that moment. Yeah,
it was. Actually I just thought it was really beautiful
because it's sometimes again just you just need one person
to see you, one person to say I'm sorry that
you went through that. Sometimes it's almost stronger than the
person that might have hurt you. Saying sorry is what
the experience that I've had.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I think you're right, and it just was so she
was like, you know, birth and becoming a mother, even
if it is your eighteenth time, is still something that
is so powerful and it still is a battle in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So I don't know why I'm just having visions right now.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm cathered just putting black underneath your eyes in your
delivery room.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Team, right. I feel it's interesting though, because I'm like,
I see that hitting for you, but I don't see
that hitting for you. I don't know if that would
would that work for you in therapy?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I don't know that you want to wear the paint. Yeah,
I probably wouldn't want to wear a paint. That's yeah,
I probably wouldn't want to wear the paint, But like
the acknowledging it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, it probably would, sure, But then you put on
you It's almost like how like she demonstrates it, we
might demonstrate differently. You're like I just need to talk
about it and I need to like yeah, and then
they'll be down.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And then move on.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, where it's like we almost like I have to
do the stream of the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Rocks and throwing, and I did not scrub the arms.
I'd let it go lost. Quiet makes zero?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Is there a long sleeve I can purchase before I
head out of the building, some sort of therapy merch
one can wear.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's funny. How are you feeling? Uh? I don't want
to get into it. Okay. I just ordered something that
will hold my varicose veins up.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I was gonna Actually I was talking to my friend
and she was like she should probably get something that
was like, I'll tell you earlier.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's like like a sling for your vagina, like literally
and like it holds up my Oh you're in it's
like my vagina basically because I've got the vericos veins
just coming out of my vagina. This happened to a
girlfriend of mine. Painful, she said, wildly painful, wildly painful.
And so I'm god, I'm like, it's is really depressing.
And Alan's at the this you know, the scan with me,
(10:04):
and you know, she's like the ultrasoumily. She's like, you
should really get these things for called vul vulver, uh vulver,
something where the veins it's like vulvar what's the veins.
I'm talking about various space, you know what I mean.
But it's down there, so I'm a googling it and
I'm like, you should see our text threat. I'm like,
(10:25):
this is the stuff that my fiance now sends me.
It is vagina strap wraps.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm like, I'm so sorry. I was like, this is
so nuts. I think. I was like, I don't even
know if I happened anymore, but this is so not sexy, babe.
I'm so sorry. And he was just like, it's fine, babe.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Preston and I had that oh here just to give
you an image if you want to go see what
looks like a jockstrap, Yeah, exactly, And but it goes
then up your butt to like on the other side,
so it looks like I was.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like, you're going to go high to a high ropes course.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, listen, I'm never so excited, yeah, because I'm like,
it is painful.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, I would be excited for a little relief too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
But the saddest part of the whole thing was She's like,
she said it in front of your Scottish handsome fiance.
Well that, but also she goes I hate to tell you,
she goes, but on your third, your worst day with
your second is your best day on your third? Or
wait they say that, right, your best day on your second. Wait,
I'm totally your worst day, my worst day on your
(11:24):
second on my second is the best day on my third?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Does that mean kids or trimester?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Like I have the pain of everything? We're right, but
two kids of three kids.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Or second time?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Three kids?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Kids? Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And I was just like and then the age and
I'm just like cool. So I don't think that I'm
here for a little sliver of good.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
News, show me the light. I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I don't think it's all true. Okay, I stay saying
your own body and have this experience in its in
its own vacuum.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, my doctor emailed me. She's like, listen, this is
gonna get real painful.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
You also have all those yeah, yeah, yeah, going on.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, you're pregnant with three things at once. I told you, yeah,
that's fun. But anyways, it's fine. I am I'm so happy.
I'm like, I'm just I'm I had a complete meltdown
the other night and I felt again bad for Alan,
but he's so good with me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But like I threw up again. It's she hated.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I'm so sick of gagging and dry heaving and I
couldn't stop it. This go Usually I can stop it,
Like every morning I dry heave, every night I dry heave.
And with this one, I was like, oh it's coming.
You know, you watered, you just fills up with water.
And I am sobbing in the bathroom, like sobbing.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm like, you get tired, go up anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And I'm like, now I'm twenty one weeks and I'm like,
this is just it's exhausting.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I know I remember doing that same thing with the third.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's pain. I'm depressed. I'm like, I'm just body. I
can't like all of it. I'm just like, how could
you even look at me? Like I'm like, I got
a vein coming out of my vagina, like you know,
it's all and all just hurts.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And I'm just like and I'm like, yes, the halfway
mark makes me feel good, but also it's like halfway, yeah,
that's where I got it twenty weeks. I was like
and breathe, okay, yeah, so the but I'm very happy
and I have the most incredible human of a partner
that is so good with me and just so sweet
(13:25):
and just like literally I've never been told so many
times how much he loves me, just like not even
like telling, just like how he is with me. Like
he'll just like hold me and I'm just like sobbing
into his chest, you know, and he's just like you're
my little warrior, like you got this, Like he's just
so he's just amazing. I'm so thankful good. I have
a good subject that might be tinging on. I don't
(13:49):
want it to be like a thing like I know
they'll quote it, but I think it's an important thing
to talk about.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I would love to so what it is, but i'd
love to Maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
About Miranda yuh ohh. So let's pin that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Let's pin it and then take a selfie and then
come back to it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Too soon, too soon. So we have Tamra Judge that's
going to come on. She's on the Real Housewives of
Orange County winced Night on Bravo. She also has a
podcast with our Girl Teddy Mellencamp to teas in a pod.
Let's take a break and let's get her on. Hey
(14:36):
how are you girl?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah? I'm good, feeling pretty good. Okay, So break it
down here, kat. Okay, So you.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Were on Housewives of Orange County and still is the
boy You're back? So you were on and then you
got fired? Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's correct?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
And do you know why you got fired or no?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
The phone call that I I got.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'll never forget it because I wasn't really entirely expecting it.
They called me and said, hey, the network wants to
go in a different direction. They'd like to know if
you'd like to take a limited role this season and
you know, just kind of finish your story out. And
I said no, I'm good, thank you, And so I
decided not to and then I was off for two years, right,
(15:24):
and it was kind of a blessing because it was
during COVID and then this year, really last minute they
asked me back, what.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Was you think the reasoning for the ass back? And
then why were you like, okay, I'll go back. Even
though they kind of kicked you out in the first place.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's like going back to a boyfriend like that you
were still in love with that dumped you. Yeah, and
then you know, at first you're like, oh my god,
I just want him back. I want him back. And
then after I got the callback, because it had been
two years. First year was a little rough because I
had been on the show for so long twelve years.
My kids were little when I started. Now I only
have won at home, and it was just kind of
(16:02):
a shell shock to me. Of course, life goes on.
Whenever I got the podcast, I got Ultimate Girl's Trip,
and then it was kind of in the back of
my head Housewives and then when they called me, I'm like,
my first instinct was like, yeah, cool, and then I
started thinking about it. I'm like, I finally got over
the hump of like not being sad about this, but
(16:23):
in perspective, it has changed my attitude towards the show
one thousand percent, Like I went back. I I've always
been a very honest person. Maybe a little too brutally honest,
but I just I don't give a show.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think that's the best place to be. Yeah, it
doesn't stress me out.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm told tonight on the show, I don't care. Good thing,
I really don't care. Before you know, it was a
lot of stress. It was playing on my immune system.
I had developed some autoimmune issues because I was stressed
out all the time. But after being let go and
then coming back, it's like, you know what, I'm just
doing it. But I also have a lot of other
things going on my life right now too.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And just like an old boyfriend, they knew that, and
so they came back. You've moved on.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, yeah, when you don't care about them anymore, they
always come back.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Hey girl, what's you up to.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Isn't it? Yeah, as soon as you put it out
of your mind, it seems to always come back. But
I'm back and I'm having fun. And it was a
great season. I think so far, everybody's enjoying it and
I had a lot of fun. I drank too much, though.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, let's happen. Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Before or now that you're back on, you drank too much.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, I'm not a big drinker. We don't drink at home, right,
We're not.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Okay, we're very.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like physically fit and active, and it's kind of hard
to have drinking in that when you get up early
in the morning, I work out, you know, and all that.
So didn't do a lot of drinking. Maybe some social
drinking here and there. But when you haven't I always say,
like when you're filming the show, you're an alcoholic for
three months out of the year. Yeah, I can imagine
everything we do is drinking, and so when you're not seasoned,
(18:00):
you know, I went back and I thought, Okay, well
I'm going to have a few shots tequila, and I
was on my ass, So.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That'll do it.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah, speaking of that made me just think of something. So,
you know, Kyle Richards, total, I know, that just made
me think of the drinking thing because she quit drinking.
So that's got to be hard now that you think
about it, filming the show when everything you're doing is
drinking all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I would I one year I didn't drink because I
was doing a fitness competition and it was really difficult
because for me, I can only speak for myself. Because
it gives you a little bit of courage and to
say things and do things that you normally wouldn't do,
and also to deal with some of the stupid argument
that goes on, like yeah, sometimes you're like I really
(18:43):
want to fucking fight about cheese right now, I want
to fight over a chair, you know, And and.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
So it gives you that that yeah, push that you need.
So I would be an alcoholic for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, but we lean forward, I'll be like two drinks,
two drinks.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That's a race car, pace carsist. One of the things
that you have going on is the podcast with Teddy,
and we've soaked to Teddy before, to teas in a pod?
Did you guys bond? Did this come out? Is this
the brainchild of both being fired? Is this two ex
girlfriends getting together? Or is this something you talked about before?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It wasn't something we talked about before. I had met
Teddy a few times. I actually ran into an Orange
County years ago. Then at Andy's baby shower, I got
to know her a little bit better. And then when
we both were fired, we would talk a little bit,
but it wasn't you know, we weren't that close. And
she texted me one day and I was getting ready
for something. I was getting glammed and she's like, hey,
(19:40):
can you talk? And I'm like, oh god.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
What did I do? Now?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You know, I'm like what the way she said?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I like, I get I do not like that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't like getting it from my ex husband Like
do you have a minute? Can you talk a minute?
I'm like, oh god, what did I do with Tom?
I'm always like what did I do wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's where my mind goes, and so I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure,
And then I'm like sitting there and be like oh God.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So then I call her and.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
She's like, hey, you know, I had this podcast and
I had to put it on the back burner because
I'm doing another podcast about true crime. But I Heart
really wants you to bring this other one back. And
they have this idea about, you know, recapping housewives and
I'm like, oh, okay, and she's like, you know, can
you talk to iHeart? And I said, okay, so talk
to iHeart. And they're like, why don't we just do
(20:25):
a trial basis like one month and see how it goes.
And it's been almost two years now.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, And you guys are killing it too because we
share the same producers and they're just like, they're your y'alls.
Is one of the best shows and just always have
the best things to say about you girls. But I
I'm curious too when you say like you just don't
care like this, I feel like it'd be a lot
funner now to go back and just because you don't
have the filter because a lot of times, like even
(20:51):
on this show, I feel like, oh, I gotta be careful.
I can't say that, or that's going to hurt this
person or and then it's like, man, if I could
just have the most uncensored opinion without the fear of losing,
you know, not being able to support my children and
being canceled or X, Y and Z, how freeing that
would be.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, you know, being canceled is a whole other thing.
And it's just it's hard to be in this industry,
on a podcast, on a reality show, as you know,
because anything you say, and God forbid you slip and
say something that's not you know, politically correct, you know,
you're canceled. Like, people make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
We're all human.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But say with saying that, I did go back and
I was uncensored, and I didn't really care too much
what I said, Like I wasn't trying to blatantly be
mean or anything like that. But I didn't hold back,
I guess is what I'm trying to say. I didn't
hold back. I just said what I felt. I went
(21:49):
into a situation where, you know, wh when I got
let go, a lot of people said a lot of things.
You know, Shanna stopped talking to me, Heather de Brouh
went on her podcast and said there was no place
for me on the show anymore because I'm now a blogger,
which I'm not a blogger, I'm podcaster with the same
thing she is. Emily said she danced on my grave
(22:11):
when I left, and you know, there was a lot
of things said. So yeah, so all these things were said,
and then it got to a playbor I. I started
doing interviews afterwards, and I felt like, you know, I
only did probably five percent of the interviews that I
was asked to do. I was asked non stop to
do them, and I spoke my mind in those as well,
and then that pissed them off. And then it became
(22:32):
like with me and Channon, a pissing match in the press.
So when I went back, I wasn't sure who was
my friend and where I stood and what's going on.
And I went into it and then everybody was nice
to me, and then I called bullshit on that, like, wait,
you were so happy I was gone, but I come
back and you're so also nice to me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
This is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So I, you know, I literally take the time to
call everybody out on.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That, so we get to see that, Yeah, yeah, good
for you that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, Shannon and I made up pretty quick. But
you know, Heather and I we start off pretty well
and then it gets a little rocky, and then it
gets a lot rocky towards the end.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Do you feel now like after being back with everybody,
do you feel like you have a good sense of
like who's actually in your corner and who's shoving you in?
I do?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I do, I think I do. I mean, right now,
the cast is pretty cohesive and they we all get along,
we all care about each other, and it's not one
of those things like I want to destroy your life
or you know, we've had people on this cast before
that just want to ruin your marriage, you know, destroy
your kids. And I think you know who I'm talking
about and all these things, and that's a very difficult
(23:47):
situation to be in and one that I would not
want to be in. But now everybody, they're they're they're nice.
Everyone's generally nice people on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Right now, Megan's back, isn't she king?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, she's not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, Oh, my thought she was. I saw something on
her Instagram like she's back to filming. I thought maybe
it's some former show and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Maybe something different. I know she was on Watch What
Happens Live, and she's always doing something. She's very she's
a hustler.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, no, she totally is. So it was your husband,
was he Is he fine with this reality world or
is he kind of like wants to stay a little
bit more separate from it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
This is actually the first season that he's a little
bit into it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I mean when I say into it, it's not like,
you know, he wants to be a housewife or anything,
but he didn't. You know, every time in the past,
I'd be like, oh, we're going to film today, and he's.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like, oh, really do I have to?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And I'm like, yeah, you can have to. And this time,
you know, I thought for sure because if he said no,
I didn't, I don't want to go back, then I'd
be like, Okay, that's cool, We're not going back then.
So I told him. And I think a lot had
to do with the fact that it is a good
we don't have people trying to destroy careers and marriages
on here anymore. So he's like, yeah, you know, let's
(25:06):
seem like everybody's chill, let's go back. So he's been
He's funny because he's he's got a few scenes coming
up where he's a little I don't know if he's
tipsy or if he's on mushrooms, but we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I can't how many kids do you have? I have four, okay?
And how did they feel about all? I mean how
did they because they grew up kind of on the
show like you're saying they were aty bitty pretty much
when you see they were little.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My son Spencer is not really into filming. He's kind
of shy overall. And Sophia just is just hering eighteen
and September so she will be able to film. She's
really the only one that wants to film. My older
son Ryan, it's not his thing at all, and he
just gets bashed anyways.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So he's like, he's.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Like, Mom, really want to go on there? And then
they'll just be like, oh, you're a loser, You're a lost,
You're that. He's like, I don't, I don't want to
do it. So he did film a little bit this season,
but not much. I think you probably won't see him again.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
What has worked with this marriage that you think you
didn't have with the others?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Boy, I think like we just love each other and
we like each other too, and we have fun together
and we do pretty much everything together. But I'm not
dependent on him and he's not dependent on me like
he can be like, hey, like a couple of weeks ago,
I'm going to Montana for a dirt biking trip with
a bunch of guys. I'm like, okay, he's out have fun.
(26:29):
Like the marriage I was in before is like what
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Where you going?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Where are you staying? What are you doing? No, I don't,
you know. It was always like you can't do that.
And he never tells me I can't do anything, and
I never tell him he can't do anything. So it's
just I don't know, out of respect and love and caring.
And also we didn't, you know, we didn't have kids together,
and I feel like that's kind of hard sometimes when
you're raising kids and you don't have maybe the same beliefs,
(26:53):
or you don't like the way the other person's parenting,
and you're under a lot of stress like I was,
kind of. He came into this relationship and I had
four kids, but three at home and the youngest was four,
so you know, he he knows that they have a father,
and he never really tried to act like he was
their father. But also he does require them to respect him. Sure,
(27:15):
so he's just I don't know, it just works.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
How did that work with the co parenting of the
young age going into that relationship? Like, are you guys
was it? Did it take you a couple of years
or is it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I would be lying if I said it was just
so seamless and easy, because it's not. You know, as
a stepparent, you don't know where your boundaries are, and
as you know, for the child, they're already going through
so much, and God forbid, they you know, could get
disciplined by the step parent and it suddenly is like
you're not my dad or you're not my mom or
something like that. So we had some growing pains, but
(27:49):
nothing too bad.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But with the X and stuff like he's been, y'all
have been okay, No, I know it's so hard. I know,
I know. I'm like, tell me a great story. Tell me.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
He tried to destroy my life. He basically said, you
destroyed my life by leaving me, and I'm going to
destroy yours. So he tried to take the kids away
from me. He tried to brainwash them. He you know,
he did one one of my children, He did get
to them. He got to all of them at one point,
and then slowly but surely, you know, like Spencer's like, MOhm,
I got to talk to you. I got to tell
you what's been happening. I feel horrible. I can't live
(28:23):
with him anymore. And Spencer came to live with me
at full time at fourteen. Sophia started living with me
full time at about I don't know, it's been about
three years now, so about fifteen years old. And then
my daughter, my oldest daughter, went to go live with
her dad full time at fifteen, so you know, he
(28:43):
really it just really destroys the family and the children mostly.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The parent alienation thing is one of I'm just it
makes me so angry. As much as I don't like questions,
I don't like this is I didn't I don't love
the things I happened in my marriage. I would never
speak bad words into my kids ever about their dad,
and I hope that he wouldn't because I've seen the
effects of other people who are speaking bad into their
(29:12):
their children and it just creates so much anxiety for
them and stress, and like it's just not fair because
I'm like the stuff that I've heard that this one
person was like trying to you know, do saying mean things.
I'm like, that's not even true, and they're just trying
to be hurtful just because they're jealous or they want
to control, and like that's not okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I mean mine was a severe situation and I
wouldn't wish it on anybody. I always say, like, you
have to love your children more than you hate your
ex husband spouse, and when you are talking badly about them,
it the other parent. It's only hurting the children. Yeah,
that's the only person that's hurting as a child at
that time, and it destroys them and it's a long
(29:54):
term pain too.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, And it's not it's not it's not fair to you.
It's it's not fair to anybody and the kids. I'm
just like, come on, like, think about the kids, and
there's so many things that I would love to say,
you know, and when they get older too, sure, but
I don't want to do that because it's not like, no,
it's just not fair. It's just they don't need to
know that stuff like that was behind closed door, Like
(30:17):
that's just they.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Don't need to know, right, So is that the current situation?
Do you all feel that, I mean, do you still
feel that way about him?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Now? The co parenting is just hard with him. Is
there any co parenting all?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, We've never co parented at all. He you know,
it's been a really bad relationship between the two of us.
And then a couple of years ago, he got stage
three throat cancer and I really kind of dropped everything
and wanted to let my kids know that I can
still show up for him even if he's sick, and
so we would go over. Sophia moved in full time
(30:50):
with me at that time because he couldn't take care
of her. And you know, he only lived around the corner.
So we'd bring him waters and he can only eat
certain foods, and we would bring the food over. And
he had a girlfriend that was helping him at the time,
and it was hard. It was really hard, and we
got really close at that time, and I thought, oh
my god, this is so cool. It's going to be great.
(31:10):
And then when he went into remission, it was back
to the same old thing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's unfortunate. It's an immaturity for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, that's finally when I went, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done, well,
go bye.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That was where the boundary then needed to be set
for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But you showed up in a way too that I
think is a prime example for your kids, which yeah, yeah,
they need.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This day to this day, they'll say to me like, Mom,
don't don't even answer his emails, don't do anything because
he'll like he always threatened to sue or threaten to
do this or threaten, always threatening. And uh and now
I get the email. I don't even open it. Delete.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I don't even good for you.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And like my kid, like I say, my kids are like, Mom,
don't let him control you anymore. It took a long time.
When you're controlled like that by a narcissist, it's really hard.
Like when I met Eddie, I really thought that he
didn't love me because he didn't try to control me.
He let me do whatever I want. I had to
reprogram my mind to be in this relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So I feel you on that friend same, I was like, No,
this isn't he loves and respects me, This isn't. This
isn't gonna happen. This is a joke.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
What a concept?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Put this chip in my neck because he loves and
respects me. Yeah right, it's crazy man girl. Okay, So
then then what's next are you Are you guys done
filming now or yeah, we're all done.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We're airing right now. We are on I don't know
episode six or seven, and I think we have a
total of like sixteen seventeen episodes. I'm not positive on that,
and reunion probably in the next couple of months, and
who knows, almost our filming again.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
A final thing that you can that you kind of
say to yourself when I know you say you don't
care about the headlines or this, that and the other,
but is there something where you hold on to that
other people could to take into their day too and
not let things weigh heavy on them from what people
say about them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know, it's hard because, especially being in the public eye,
you get attacked by everybody left and right on social
media and in the press and things like that. And
it took me a long time to to not let
it bother me. I will say, if it's about my children,
it will always bother me. Of course, it will always.
And you know, there has been situations where certain cast
(33:29):
members or some have gone after me or my kids
or whatever. But overall, I just my mindset is.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Who these people don't know me.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
They're not affecting my life. If I do not turn
on my phone and look at Instagram and see negative
things about me, it's never gonna it's not gonna affect
me at all. So why am I affected when I
see it? I don't know them, you know, I don't
know who they are, so they can they can f
off for all I care. And most of the time,
these people they just want to be heard. And if
(34:03):
they say something really nasty to you and you'll be like, oh,
you know, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean that, they're like,
oh my god, I knew you could be my favorite.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They just want to be heard, and I normally don't
give the time anymore. Like before I would be like
answering to all negative people. Now I'm like, no, I
don't care. I'm living my life. Whatever you're saying is
your point of view, doesn't affect me. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah love that. Good for you. Well girl, thank you
so much for coming on the podcast. We appreciate it,
and we'll make sure everyone listens to your podcast as well.
Since we are all in the iHeart family.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes, yes to teas in a pod. Well, thank you
so much. It was great being on your podcast. Thanks girl,
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Ye sister, bye bye bye. I remember one time I
gotta When I responded back to someone, They're like, oh
my god, Jennifer Aison never replies, I love you. I'm
just so sorry. I was having a bad day. It's negative.
It's just like them. It's like children. Yeah, they need
a SANSI.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, okay, let's take a break.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I need a water before I try heave began, and
then let's go on stage and talk about Miranda.
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Speaker 2 (36:34):
Did you guys see them Miranda Thing?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I did, Okay, So I have thoughts and I've watched
a few things. Basically, she was on stage singing and
she called out two girls that were taking a selfie.
She was in her Vegas Residency Vegas Regancy. Yes, yeah,
which does.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I don't know why. That's a little different to me.
It feels a little different. Okay, Okay, I have I have,
I have stances. Okay, I'm interested to know your stance
because you're a performer.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
So she called them out in the middle of the concert,
stopped the song. Stopped the song. They were taking a selfie.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They were taking a selfie background right, because I don't
know that. I don't know if they were just too
taking a selfie. Like, I can pull the video if
you want, I can show you the picture is not
a selfie. It's the girls and they have Miranda in
the background. It's like five women in their age thirty
to sixty, So these.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Are so they were getting a whether it's a selfie
or not. They were taking a photo with Miranda in
the background on stage.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yes, with a flash. Okay, okay, Miranda, don't stop the show,
stop the show, stop singing. She's like, are you really
taking a selfie? I don't know the exact quote, but
it was like, I'm here to sing some damn country music.
Can we just do that?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'll clearly know more about this than well.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I can pull up the video.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
It wasn't just like a stop. It was more like
a can you believe this is happening? I'm trying to
sing this song. She called them out on stage and
these girls are taking a selfie.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, okay, these girls are worried about selfie and.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Not listening to.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I have three thoughts. I've called out a guy at
a show for watching.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
At wine down. He was watching sports, so as a joke,
to be a part of the shtick, I'm like, what's
the score? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I was like, I was like, buddy, what's the score?
Tell me what the score is?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Because I thought it was funny, you know what I mean. Yeah,
so I called out in a funny way. Everyone's laughing.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Again. That's the vibe of like wind down. Very different,
very different in my mind. There's only in my mind
again my opinion. Everyone's opinions are different. In my opinion,
when someone is taking a selfie, like we're you know
when we say I love When someone's taking some off,
I'm like, hey, I'm like I'm going to go in
and like cheese, because that's a part of them remembering
(39:06):
the concert and having fun and you know, wanting me
to be a part of it, and or even if
it was just them, I'd be like, take as many
million selfies as you want, like you're at my concert
having so much fun, like and personally like the selfie
point part at the end of our shows, and like
my shows are my favorite because I'm just like I
get to be like hey, and like I've seen Adele
(39:28):
do it. I mean, so many classy artists are, you know,
taking selfies with people or whatever. I get the other
side of it where it's like, okay, you know, I'm
here to listen to music, but it's also it's a concert,
like don't you like in my mind, I'm like, wouldn't
you want people having fun? And the only way that
(39:48):
I can see someone calling out somebody else is if
they were being inappropriate or if they're being super loud
or disrupting the show for other people. That's the only
part that I would say, hey, can you this your
kind of just because we've had the drunkies where it's
just like it's a little too much, and then I
kind of motioned to someone else to be like where
they're just like screaming talking during like yeah, you know
(40:11):
that's that's a different story. But this seem this seems
like a respectful situation where they were just wanting to
take a photo, and in my mind, I thought that
was kind of rude. Okay, I also agree. I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
I think it's the sill I think it's the silliest
thing I've ever seen. I'll just be honest.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just I feel like they paid.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
And I know I've seen a lot of people say
it doesn't matter how much they paid. Some people are
like people have lost concert etiquette, blah blah blah. These
tickets for the Vegas Residency. That's why I mentioned that,
because the tickets for the Vegas Residency. I think I
could be wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that
their tickets specifically were in like the seven hundreds.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Say they're not cheap each.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, so these women and they're dressed to the nines,
like you could tell. And I'm not I'm just saying
like it was to them a very respectful event. This
wasn't like they just rolled in, We're being drunk goes
they like, and they documented it with Miranda in their picture,
Like to them, it was like a girl's night I think.
So that's why I felt, I get nervous to get
(41:15):
everybody canceled. But it just feels a little bully like
when you have the microphone and you can say that
and you're and you're doing that to women that the
woman has spoke out since.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh she she did what she said.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
She basically said it wasn't you know, we just wanted
to document and she wasn't. She said that she probably
she'll never stop listening to Miranda's music and she still
loves it, but she probably won't go to a concert.
I think it was her to a Miranda concert.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Again. I think it's a different story when it's like, hey,
if you don't want phones or people taking selfies, Like
we say no phones during the first part of our
line because we don't want people hearing those things, not
because we don't want them videoing or whatever. But if
you don't want phones or people taking videos or selfies
or whatever, say it's a no phone policy, Well you
(42:01):
can you can have that. You can choose that. Especially
at comedy shows you take their phones, or.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
If you're like at like a listening room or something,
if you're at the Bluebird or if you're at like
something like that, and it is purely about just listening
to the music. Say take the phones. No, phones, don't
do it. I get that. But a situation like this,
I don't understand. I think she took advantage of the situation.
They've paid a lot of money, and if someone called
me out in the middle of a concert, I felt
(42:27):
that thing wrong. That was I paid seven hundred dollars.
I would never support that artist again.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It's crazy because I would, I think because I'm married
to an artist. Like I've seen my husband legit pull
those people up on stage and me like, girl, get
up here and get a real picture.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, I'm like facetiming people on stage. And then I
know I'm not the best singer. Like Miranda is an
amazing artist, and she's an amazing singer and like an
insane vocalist. I know I'm just a monkey show. I
get that. So I'm going to make a giche just
saying like I get my stick right. So it's like
but even so, like if I'm at a Sam Smith
or Chris Stapleton, I'm going to take selfie because how
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cool is this? Even if I was an a Miranda concert,
I would take a selfie, And like with Maria like
her in the background because I respect her and like
her as an artist, But if I was to get
called out from her, I'd feel so embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Well that's that's how it feels in that too, because
it wasn't like, hang on a second, I got some
real hot girls over there taking a selfie.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
No, it's she literally said, I'm pissed.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't. I know I'm a little
blunt with it, but I just don't think. No, it
just also not how it's became this big thing. It's
like she made it a big thing that it's just
should we shouldn't. It should never be a thing. It
shouldn't have been a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think. I think honestly, she just doesn't like the phones,
which again, you know she wants people just to be
present and not be on the phones. I get it.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I'm on my phone all the time, so I can
have I could see her backlash and be like, Janny,
you're on your phone all the time, like you can't
even put your phone down like I Again, I get that.
I like to document cool concerts.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I like to go back. I'm like, oh that's clean,
doon like having that video with like that was. I
go back to it all the time. Yeah, it such
a good thing. But like she had also stopped back
in twenty nineteen. I believe it was someone was taking
a selfie during the House That Built Me, and she goes,
you're really taking a selfie in the middle of the
house that built Me. So I think she just wants
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to have a concert where it's just the presence of
like people, and that's totally in her right. Just take
away people's phones and don't call them out.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
I think two things with that. A. I think it
would be pretty easy to do that, especially at the
Vegas Residency.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Easy no phones.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
Other side of that, she probably knows people aren't gonna
she won't have as much ticket sales. I don't like
it when they take my phone at his comedy shows.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We'ved kids anxiety. I'm like, what if my kids need me?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Had I realized that the last one we went to,
I probably wouldn't have gone. So I think that there's
a part of her that knows if she puts that
policy in place, she's not going to sell I mean,
there's too many people there that have to be reachable. Yeah,
when they're gone, you know so.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And disclaimer, this isn't me like hating house that built me.
By the way, is one of my favorite Oh like
love her. I mean we're not like friends, but I
still respect her as an artist. I think she's amazing.
I just personally, as a fan, would not like to
be called out that way.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Yeah I wouldn't either, And I don't mean to be
so blunt about it, but I just I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
They just weren't disrespectful. That's the hard part for me.
Like she is such a level, She's in a level
in my brain, a very high level performance to me.
So I understand the wanting people to like be in
your music and like a listening room vibe right at
a show.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Like I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I just I really, I just like her so much
that I really tried to like get on her page,
but it kind of bugged me because I thought, these
girls are just having a really good night out.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
Yeah, I just again, seven hundred dollars fifty dollars, it's
a lot to spend. It doesn't matter how much you spend.
Concert tickets are extra when it comes to you these
you know, everyone's income you spend money to have a night.
I just think something like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
That, Like, also they need to see her.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
And to be you know, after you've spent money. I
just I don't love that.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Come it felt like these are sticky watching it, I
was like, Oh, that's yeah. And then I'm like, well,
maybe they were super drunk, or maybe like it was,
they were causing a scene, or maybe they had like
flash flash flash flash flash by because that becomes annoying.
They during the shash.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Well, but I mean one flash is fine too, you know,
but if it's like a they're constantly like that would
be annoying.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
So it's like, you don't know what. Having said all that,
I am living through people's videos of the Taylor Swift concert.
Watch all of them because I'm like, I couldn't afford
a ticket once they all got right.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
But did you see her all out the security guard.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Oh that's such a pretty photo of everyone.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Sorry, did you see I would have taken that photo
all day long. Did you see Taylor Swift call out
in the middle of her concert and start singing call
out the security guard?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
No, it happened. Who was heckling?
Speaker 6 (46:54):
A fan was like and she was like, you stop,
She's fine, and like some security guard was like, I
don't know if this fan. I didn't read all about it,
but I don't know if this fan was just maybe
was drunk and was doing some stuff. The security guard
didn't like the security She called out the security guard.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And told him to stop.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Wow in the middle of the that. I understand her
fan spent a lot of money for that sure concert.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, that's kind of where I'm at with Miranda. I'm like, girl,
they paid a lot of money to come see you,
and this photo is like very classy, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
It's not a and not I don't know. I just
I think too because I we pay our bills by
fan money, Like if no one likes us, we don't
have a house to live in kind of seeing of
houses the built up I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So I'm like, if.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
They're there, they're there because they love you and they
want to watch you and they want to document you.
Like you're there, Jessica Simpson, I didn't have the moment.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
You know, And again I think it's just like respectful,
like the people of the throwing things, like you don't
throw things on stage. That's a reason to stop thing.
You know, that's a reason. Like that's like this, No,
you know, don't be the let when the artist is talking.
Don't be screaming at them while because that, again, is
so distracting. Let's think you're taking a million trillion you know,
flash flash back. That's distracting. But it's like this, just
(48:10):
one little photo, like yeah, anyways for them, g n
O is all they were trying to have. Guys. I
was like, guya, well we are in the mode all right, guys,
fun to have. Oh can we just do this again?
Can you get us together? I need it.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm just always afraid to misspeak because I'm not sleeping
and my hormones are crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well, girlfriend, get on board with me. Two peas in
a pod. Uh okay. I love you guys, I love you.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Bye,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So Hot Hormonal, Welcome back, christ I'm hot and hormonal
and this is wind down. How you feeling, KB, You're
a You're You're no more baby in the belly. I'm
out of the house. How's it feel to be out
of the house. It feels good. I've actually got you
into botox.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I've gone to hair, I've gone to nails, all the things.
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Did you see Eric at Nails, Spring Nails? I did
see Eric at Spring Nails.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, sweet sweet man and his wife Lily shout out,
shout out to Spring Nails.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Spring.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The problem with Eric and Lily is that they're married
and then when they go on vacation for six weeks,
they got to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Get Sylvia too. I'm like Sylvia, She's like, I'm going
to Korea for three months, and I'm like, oh, I
mean she takes Johnny and then we're all up the creek.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I actually ran into them at an airport. I remember
seeing Johnny. He goes hi, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Like Hi, but it took me a second ago. Where
do I know you from? And I was like Johnny.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then Sylvia came over and I was like wow,
and I didn't know what to say. Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I was so like, you know, because it's like
what do you talk about?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I was like, my nails still look really good.
I was like I just need to stop.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Wow. It was like, this is like you know your people.
It's like seeing your characters out of Disneyland or something.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, it's like did I see them there? We wouldn't
know because the characters, because I'm only Mickey at the
grocery store. It's like it's so.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Weird that I've only seen them at Spring. I've never
seen them anywhere else because they go anywhere. I'm sure
they do. I've just I never sit down and it
is different settings. That's why I was just like, wow,
look at you in the wild.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Johnny at BNA. This is crazy. Everyone hates us?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Okay is it?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The gang gets back together? Okay, you girls, it's just
this over zoom and it is. Do you want to
tell everybody about the email that you're crafting right now?
Or do you want to put a pin in that
we have few pins? We have a lot of pins. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I started to text you something the other day and
I was like, actually, pin this, but I don't remember
what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Are you serious? Good? Pin? Go to notes?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No, I'll just I'm going to go to code word
pin in my conversations and see where we were, and
I'll probably remember.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And scrolls gotta you gotta like read.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I can't scroll back to where you and I have
been because we've been a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I really texted much friend, because you've been so busy. Oh,
washing of the paint? Yes, no idea, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Wait, how did this?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay? So okay, what happened was? You're going to get
in a little text. Let's see, easy, easy grammer.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know, I know, remember that one thing you said
the day? Okay, it's fine. I feel just as left
out as you guys do. I said, how was therapy? Yes?
She was so so, so good. I want to read
along with you because I'm nervous. I would like to edit. Oh, Amy,
take all my money. I was going to leave that
one out. I need her to.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then she sends me a photo of this. I
don't know if you guys don't see it, but it's her.
Well you'all can't see it unless you're watching this or now.
But the hand with it looks like a it's a
cross with I thought maybe they were. I'm like, okay,
that's either either a cross or it's like a knife,
you know, or not a knife, but what a sword?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You see the sword too? Because because she says she
gave me war paint. Has she told you about the
washing of the paint. It's incredible? And I was like, oh,
she hasn't she was, And then that's when you said pinned, pinned.
She was released in person because he will love text
me do it justice?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I go, ah, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah we can unpin.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I hope I do it justice because it's really special
and when I super sentimental. But if it doesn't hit
with you guys and we're just you're gonna hear this cool,
it takes some pressure off. So I you know, the
last year two years have really just been extra heavy. Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Lost the five people in eleven months, one being my dad.
Today is actually two years since he passed away. So
what do you say that he's a sorry, No, I
think we just moved just or just like yeah, it's
not funny. That was probably a good response like, no,
I really feel like it's fine. Like if I think
(04:54):
if I gave you a dramatic pause, you could and
I feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just don't give a dramatic pause. What I think I
would do normally, I'd be like, do you want to
talk about it? Or are we just? Are we good? Yeah,
we're pushing, We're pushing, we feel good about we're soldiering. Yeah,
war paint.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I go to Amy and I'm telling her about
the delivery, and m also.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I have nothing to say that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And at the end, she goes, have you ever heard
of this tribe of Native Americans? And I'm going, I
don't remember the name? She said so quick and also
forgive me for no sleep, but I can dig and
find this because she'll send me everything. But she says,
there's this tribe that most tribes when they come back
(05:38):
from war, they wash off their war paint, and there's
one tribe that really like soaks in the sacredness of
the war paint and they don't wash the paint so
that everyone in the village can see that they've been
through something and that they have gone through something hard.
And so she was like, as she's telling me this
(05:58):
She's got out her red paint and she's like, I
need your arms, and she's painting. She was, I want
you to know that I see you, and that you've
been through something hard, and that you've been through these
battles and that you're doing a great job. And I
want this to just wash off as slowly as you
want to wash it off, but to note so that
you know, I see that you've been through war.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And then you I'm sure you were sobbing, sobbing, yeah,
and it was just to be acknowledged. Is like the
piece that it's like you just want to be seen
and when you feel so unseen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, then that's like I remember.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Going through the miscarriage and wishing that I could just
wear like a shirt that was like just be fragile,
you know, like handle with care. And she said, that's
essentially that that's what this is. And I just thought
it was so beautiful and also like just what a
special thing to even consider. You know, how long did
you wear it for? For as long as I as
(06:51):
long as it wouldn't wash off. I do think it's
probably like hunting paint or something, so it kind of
like rolls off, but I never scrubbed it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I wore it for a few days. Did he
ask about it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He did, Okay, hmmm, no he did. He was like,
what's that? And I said, well, this is explained and
he was like this is a real artist comment. He goes,
that's something I would do. I wouldn't wash off my
war paint. And I was like, okay, right, But.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
For different it was like the hard life of Look.
I was like, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You wouldn't wash off your war paying because you wouldn't
want everyone to know what you've.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Been out to, not because because you don't want to
do an interview about it. Okay, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I was like, okay, I think we're missing something. But
that was before I was spray tanning, and so there
was a lot going on. I was like, I have
war paint, you have spray tan We just need to
keep moving this forward. It's sentimental as this moment really is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, I'm glad you got to have that moment. Yeah,
it was. Actually I just thought it was really beautiful
because it's sometimes again just you just need one person
to see you, one person to say I'm sorry that
you went through that. Sometimes it's almost stronger than the
person that might have hurt you. Saying sorry is what
the experience that I've had.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I think you're right, and it just was so she
was like, you know, birth and becoming a mother, even
if it is your eighteenth time, is still something that
is so powerful and it still is a battle in itself.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So I don't know why I'm just having visions right now.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm cathered just putting black underneath your eyes in your
delivery room.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Team, right. I feel it's interesting though, because I'm like,
I see that hitting for you, but I don't see
that hitting for you. I don't know if that would
would that work for you in therapy?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I don't know that you want to wear the paint. Yeah,
I probably wouldn't want to wear a paint. That's yeah,
I probably wouldn't want to wear the paint, But like
the acknowledging it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, it probably would, sure, But then you put on
you It's almost like how like she demonstrates it, we
might demonstrate differently. You're like I just need to talk
about it and I need to like yeah, and then
they'll be down.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And then move on.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, where it's like we almost like I have to
do the stream of the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Rocks and throwing, and I did not scrub the arms.
I'd let it go lost. Quiet makes zero?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Is there a long sleeve I can purchase before I
head out of the building, some sort of therapy merch
one can wear.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's funny. How are you feeling? Uh? I don't want
to get into it. Okay. I just ordered something that
will hold my varicose veins up.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I was gonna Actually I was talking to my friend
and she was like she should probably get something that
was like, I'll tell you earlier.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's like like a sling for your vagina, like literally
and like it holds up my Oh you're in it's
like my vagina basically because I've got the vericos veins
just coming out of my vagina. This happened to a
girlfriend of mine. Painful, she said, wildly painful, wildly painful.
And so I'm god, I'm like, it's is really depressing.
And Alan's at the this you know, the scan with me,
(10:04):
and you know, she's like the ultrasoumily. She's like, you
should really get these things for called vul vulver, uh vulver,
something where the veins it's like vulvar what's the veins.
I'm talking about various space, you know what I mean.
But it's down there, so I'm a googling it and
I'm like, you should see our text threat. I'm like,
(10:25):
this is the stuff that my fiance now sends me.
It is vagina strap wraps.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm like, I'm so sorry. I was like, this is
so nuts. I think. I was like, I don't even
know if I happened anymore, but this is so not sexy, babe.
I'm so sorry. And he was just like, it's fine, babe.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Preston and I had that oh here just to give
you an image if you want to go see what
looks like a jockstrap, Yeah, exactly, And but it goes
then up your butt to like on the other side,
so it looks like I was.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Like, you're going to go high to a high ropes course.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, listen, I'm never so excited, yeah, because I'm like,
it is painful.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, I would be excited for a little relief too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
But the saddest part of the whole thing was She's like,
she said it in front of your Scottish handsome fiance.
Well that, but also she goes I hate to tell you,
she goes, but on your third, your worst day with
your second is your best day on your third? Or
wait they say that, right, your best day on your second. Wait,
I'm totally your worst day, my worst day on your
(11:24):
second on my second is the best day on my third?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Does that mean kids or trimester?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Like I have the pain of everything? We're right, but
two kids of three kids.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Or second time?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Three kids?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Kids? Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And I was just like and then the age and
I'm just like cool. So I don't think that I'm
here for a little sliver of good.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
News, show me the light. I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I don't think it's all true. Okay, I stay saying
your own body and have this experience in its in
its own vacuum.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, my doctor emailed me. She's like, listen, this is
gonna get real painful.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
You also have all those yeah, yeah, yeah, going on.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, you're pregnant with three things at once. I told you, yeah,
that's fun. But anyways, it's fine. I am I'm so happy.
I'm like, I'm just I'm I had a complete meltdown
the other night and I felt again bad for Alan,
but he's so good with me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But like I threw up again. It's she hated.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I'm so sick of gagging and dry heaving and I
couldn't stop it. This go Usually I can stop it,
Like every morning I dry heave, every night I dry heave.
And with this one, I was like, oh it's coming.
You know, you watered, you just fills up with water.
And I am sobbing in the bathroom, like sobbing.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm like, you get tired, go up anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And I'm like, now I'm twenty one weeks and I'm like,
this is just it's exhausting.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I know I remember doing that same thing with the third.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's pain. I'm depressed. I'm like, I'm just body. I
can't like all of it. I'm just like, how could
you even look at me? Like I'm like, I got
a vein coming out of my vagina, like you know,
it's all and all just hurts.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And I'm just like and I'm like, yes, the halfway
mark makes me feel good, but also it's like halfway, yeah,
that's where I got it twenty weeks. I was like
and breathe, okay, yeah, so the but I'm very happy
and I have the most incredible human of a partner
that is so good with me and just so sweet
(13:25):
and just like literally I've never been told so many
times how much he loves me, just like not even
like telling, just like how he is with me. Like
he'll just like hold me and I'm just like sobbing
into his chest, you know, and he's just like you're
my little warrior, like you got this, Like he's just
so he's just amazing. I'm so thankful good. I have
a good subject that might be tinging on. I don't
(13:49):
want it to be like a thing like I know
they'll quote it, but I think it's an important thing
to talk about.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I would love to so what it is, but i'd
love to Maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
About Miranda yuh ohh. So let's pin that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Let's pin it and then take a selfie and then
come back to it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Too soon, too soon. So we have Tamra Judge that's
going to come on. She's on the Real Housewives of
Orange County winced Night on Bravo. She also has a
podcast with our Girl Teddy Mellencamp to teas in a pod.
Let's take a break and let's get her on. Hey
(14:36):
how are you girl?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah? I'm good, feeling pretty good. Okay, So break it
down here, kat. Okay, So you.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Were on Housewives of Orange County and still is the
boy You're back? So you were on and then you
got fired? Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's correct?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
And do you know why you got fired or no?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
The phone call that I I got.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'll never forget it because I wasn't really entirely expecting it.
They called me and said, hey, the network wants to
go in a different direction. They'd like to know if
you'd like to take a limited role this season and
you know, just kind of finish your story out. And
I said no, I'm good, thank you, And so I
decided not to and then I was off for two years, right,
(15:24):
and it was kind of a blessing because it was
during COVID and then this year, really last minute they
asked me back, what.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Was you think the reasoning for the ass back? And
then why were you like, okay, I'll go back. Even
though they kind of kicked you out in the first place.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's like going back to a boyfriend like that you
were still in love with that dumped you. Yeah, and
then you know, at first you're like, oh my god,
I just want him back. I want him back. And
then after I got the callback, because it had been
two years. First year was a little rough because I
had been on the show for so long twelve years.
My kids were little when I started. Now I only
have won at home, and it was just kind of
(16:02):
a shell shock to me. Of course, life goes on.
Whenever I got the podcast, I got Ultimate Girl's Trip,
and then it was kind of in the back of
my head Housewives and then when they called me, I'm like,
my first instinct was like, yeah, cool, and then I
started thinking about it. I'm like, I finally got over
the hump of like not being sad about this, but
(16:23):
in perspective, it has changed my attitude towards the show
one thousand percent, Like I went back. I I've always
been a very honest person. Maybe a little too brutally honest,
but I just I don't give a show.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think that's the best place to be. Yeah, it
doesn't stress me out.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm told tonight on the show, I don't care. Good thing,
I really don't care. Before you know, it was a
lot of stress. It was playing on my immune system.
I had developed some autoimmune issues because I was stressed
out all the time. But after being let go and
then coming back, it's like, you know what, I'm just
doing it. But I also have a lot of other
things going on my life right now too.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And just like an old boyfriend, they knew that, and
so they came back. You've moved on.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, yeah, when you don't care about them anymore, they
always come back.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Hey girl, what's you up to.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Isn't it? Yeah, as soon as you put it out
of your mind, it seems to always come back. But
I'm back and I'm having fun. And it was a
great season. I think so far, everybody's enjoying it and
I had a lot of fun. I drank too much, though.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, let's happen. Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Before or now that you're back on, you drank too much.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, I'm not a big drinker. We don't drink at home, right,
We're not.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Okay, we're very.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like physically fit and active, and it's kind of hard
to have drinking in that when you get up early
in the morning, I work out, you know, and all that.
So didn't do a lot of drinking. Maybe some social
drinking here and there. But when you haven't I always say,
like when you're filming the show, you're an alcoholic for
three months out of the year. Yeah, I can imagine
everything we do is drinking, and so when you're not seasoned,
(18:00):
you know, I went back and I thought, Okay, well
I'm going to have a few shots tequila, and I
was on my ass, So.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That'll do it.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah, speaking of that made me just think of something. So,
you know, Kyle Richards, total, I know, that just made
me think of the drinking thing because she quit drinking.
So that's got to be hard now that you think
about it, filming the show when everything you're doing is
drinking all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I would I one year I didn't drink because I
was doing a fitness competition and it was really difficult
because for me, I can only speak for myself. Because
it gives you a little bit of courage and to
say things and do things that you normally wouldn't do,
and also to deal with some of the stupid argument
that goes on, like yeah, sometimes you're like I really
(18:43):
want to fucking fight about cheese right now, I want
to fight over a chair, you know, And and.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
So it gives you that that yeah, push that you need.
So I would be an alcoholic for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, but we lean forward, I'll be like two drinks,
two drinks.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That's a race car, pace carsist. One of the things
that you have going on is the podcast with Teddy,
and we've soaked to Teddy before, to teas in a pod?
Did you guys bond? Did this come out? Is this
the brainchild of both being fired? Is this two ex
girlfriends getting together? Or is this something you talked about before?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It wasn't something we talked about before. I had met
Teddy a few times. I actually ran into an Orange
County years ago. Then at Andy's baby shower, I got
to know her a little bit better. And then when
we both were fired, we would talk a little bit,
but it wasn't you know, we weren't that close. And
she texted me one day and I was getting ready
for something. I was getting glammed and she's like, hey,
(19:40):
can you talk? And I'm like, oh god.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
What did I do? Now?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You know, I'm like what the way she said?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I like, I get I do not like that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't like getting it from my ex husband Like
do you have a minute? Can you talk a minute?
I'm like, oh god, what did I do with Tom?
I'm always like what did I do wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's where my mind goes, and so I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure,
And then I'm like sitting there and be like oh God.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So then I call her and.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
She's like, hey, you know, I had this podcast and
I had to put it on the back burner because
I'm doing another podcast about true crime. But I Heart
really wants you to bring this other one back. And
they have this idea about, you know, recapping housewives and
I'm like, oh, okay, and she's like, you know, can
you talk to iHeart? And I said, okay, so talk
to iHeart. And they're like, why don't we just do
(20:25):
a trial basis like one month and see how it goes.
And it's been almost two years now.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, And you guys are killing it too because we
share the same producers and they're just like, they're your y'alls.
Is one of the best shows and just always have
the best things to say about you girls. But I
I'm curious too when you say like you just don't
care like this, I feel like it'd be a lot
funner now to go back and just because you don't
have the filter because a lot of times, like even
(20:51):
on this show, I feel like, oh, I gotta be careful.
I can't say that, or that's going to hurt this
person or and then it's like, man, if I could
just have the most uncensored opinion without the fear of losing,
you know, not being able to support my children and
being canceled or X, Y and Z, how freeing that
would be.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, you know, being canceled is a whole other thing.
And it's just it's hard to be in this industry,
on a podcast, on a reality show, as you know,
because anything you say, and God forbid you slip and
say something that's not you know, politically correct, you know,
you're canceled. Like, people make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
We're all human.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But say with saying that, I did go back and
I was uncensored, and I didn't really care too much
what I said, Like I wasn't trying to blatantly be
mean or anything like that. But I didn't hold back,
I guess is what I'm trying to say. I didn't
hold back. I just said what I felt. I went
(21:49):
into a situation where, you know, wh when I got
let go, a lot of people said a lot of things.
You know, Shanna stopped talking to me, Heather de Brouh
went on her podcast and said there was no place
for me on the show anymore because I'm now a blogger,
which I'm not a blogger, I'm podcaster with the same
thing she is. Emily said she danced on my grave
(22:11):
when I left, and you know, there was a lot
of things said. So yeah, so all these things were said,
and then it got to a playbor I. I started
doing interviews afterwards, and I felt like, you know, I
only did probably five percent of the interviews that I
was asked to do. I was asked non stop to
do them, and I spoke my mind in those as well,
and then that pissed them off. And then it became
(22:32):
like with me and Channon, a pissing match in the press.
So when I went back, I wasn't sure who was
my friend and where I stood and what's going on.
And I went into it and then everybody was nice
to me, and then I called bullshit on that, like, wait,
you were so happy I was gone, but I come
back and you're so also nice to me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
This is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So I, you know, I literally take the time to
call everybody out on.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
That, so we get to see that, Yeah, yeah, good
for you that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, Shannon and I made up pretty quick. But
you know, Heather and I we start off pretty well
and then it gets a little rocky, and then it
gets a lot rocky towards the end.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Do you feel now like after being back with everybody,
do you feel like you have a good sense of
like who's actually in your corner and who's shoving you in?
I do?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I do, I think I do. I mean, right now,
the cast is pretty cohesive and they we all get along,
we all care about each other, and it's not one
of those things like I want to destroy your life
or you know, we've had people on this cast before
that just want to ruin your marriage, you know, destroy
your kids. And I think you know who I'm talking
about and all these things, and that's a very difficult
(23:47):
situation to be in and one that I would not
want to be in. But now everybody, they're they're they're nice.
Everyone's generally nice people on the show.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Right now, Megan's back, isn't she king?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, she's not.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No, Oh, my thought she was. I saw something on
her Instagram like she's back to filming. I thought maybe
it's some former show and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Maybe something different. I know she was on Watch What
Happens Live, and she's always doing something. She's very she's
a hustler.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, no, she totally is. So it was your husband,
was he Is he fine with this reality world or
is he kind of like wants to stay a little
bit more separate from it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
This is actually the first season that he's a little
bit into it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I mean when I say into it, it's not like,
you know, he wants to be a housewife or anything,
but he didn't. You know, every time in the past,
I'd be like, oh, we're going to film today, and he's.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like, oh, really do I have to?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And I'm like, yeah, you can have to. And this time,
you know, I thought for sure because if he said no,
I didn't, I don't want to go back, then I'd
be like, Okay, that's cool, We're not going back then.
So I told him. And I think a lot had
to do with the fact that it is a good
we don't have people trying to destroy careers and marriages
on here anymore. So he's like, yeah, you know, let's
(25:06):
seem like everybody's chill, let's go back. So he's been
He's funny because he's he's got a few scenes coming
up where he's a little I don't know if he's
tipsy or if he's on mushrooms, but we'll find out.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I can't how many kids do you have? I have four, okay?
And how did they feel about all? I mean how
did they because they grew up kind of on the
show like you're saying they were aty bitty pretty much
when you see they were little.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My son Spencer is not really into filming. He's kind
of shy overall. And Sophia just is just hering eighteen
and September so she will be able to film. She's
really the only one that wants to film. My older
son Ryan, it's not his thing at all, and he
just gets bashed anyways.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So he's like, he's.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Like, Mom, really want to go on there? And then
they'll just be like, oh, you're a loser, You're a lost,
You're that. He's like, I don't, I don't want to
do it. So he did film a little bit this season,
but not much. I think you probably won't see him again.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
What has worked with this marriage that you think you
didn't have with the others?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Boy, I think like we just love each other and
we like each other too, and we have fun together
and we do pretty much everything together. But I'm not
dependent on him and he's not dependent on me like
he can be like, hey, like a couple of weeks ago,
I'm going to Montana for a dirt biking trip with
a bunch of guys. I'm like, okay, he's out have fun.
(26:29):
Like the marriage I was in before is like what
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Where you going?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Where are you staying? What are you doing? No, I don't,
you know. It was always like you can't do that.
And he never tells me I can't do anything, and
I never tell him he can't do anything. So it's
just I don't know, out of respect and love and caring.
And also we didn't, you know, we didn't have kids together,
and I feel like that's kind of hard sometimes when
you're raising kids and you don't have maybe the same beliefs,
(26:53):
or you don't like the way the other person's parenting,
and you're under a lot of stress like I was,
kind of. He came into this relationship and I had
four kids, but three at home and the youngest was four,
so you know, he he knows that they have a father,
and he never really tried to act like he was
their father. But also he does require them to respect him. Sure,
(27:15):
so he's just I don't know, it just works.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
How did that work with the co parenting of the
young age going into that relationship? Like, are you guys
was it? Did it take you a couple of years
or is it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I would be lying if I said it was just
so seamless and easy, because it's not. You know, as
a stepparent, you don't know where your boundaries are, and
as you know, for the child, they're already going through
so much, and God forbid, they you know, could get
disciplined by the step parent and it suddenly is like
you're not my dad or you're not my mom or
something like that. So we had some growing pains, but
(27:49):
nothing too bad.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But with the X and stuff like he's been, y'all
have been okay, No, I know it's so hard. I know,
I know. I'm like, tell me a great story. Tell me.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
He tried to destroy my life. He basically said, you
destroyed my life by leaving me, and I'm going to
destroy yours. So he tried to take the kids away
from me. He tried to brainwash them. He you know,
he did one one of my children, He did get
to them. He got to all of them at one point,
and then slowly but surely, you know, like Spencer's like, MOhm,
I got to talk to you. I got to tell
you what's been happening. I feel horrible. I can't live
(28:23):
with him anymore. And Spencer came to live with me
at full time at fourteen. Sophia started living with me
full time at about I don't know, it's been about
three years now, so about fifteen years old. And then
my daughter, my oldest daughter, went to go live with
her dad full time at fifteen, so you know, he
(28:43):
really it just really destroys the family and the children mostly.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The parent alienation thing is one of I'm just it
makes me so angry. As much as I don't like questions,
I don't like this is I didn't I don't love
the things I happened in my marriage. I would never
speak bad words into my kids ever about their dad,
and I hope that he wouldn't because I've seen the
effects of other people who are speaking bad into their
(29:12):
their children and it just creates so much anxiety for
them and stress, and like it's just not fair because
I'm like the stuff that I've heard that this one
person was like trying to you know, do saying mean things.
I'm like, that's not even true, and they're just trying
to be hurtful just because they're jealous or they want
to control, and like that's not okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I mean mine was a severe situation and I
wouldn't wish it on anybody. I always say, like, you
have to love your children more than you hate your
ex husband spouse, and when you are talking badly about them,
it the other parent. It's only hurting the children. Yeah,
that's the only person that's hurting as a child at
that time, and it destroys them and it's a long
(29:54):
term pain too.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, And it's not it's not it's not fair to you.
It's it's not fair to anybody and the kids. I'm
just like, come on, like, think about the kids, and
there's so many things that I would love to say,
you know, and when they get older too, sure, but
I don't want to do that because it's not like, no,
it's just not fair. It's just they don't need to
know that stuff like that was behind closed door, Like
(30:17):
that's just they.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Don't need to know, right, So is that the current situation?
Do you all feel that, I mean, do you still
feel that way about him?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Now? The co parenting is just hard with him. Is
there any co parenting all?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, We've never co parented at all. He you know,
it's been a really bad relationship between the two of us.
And then a couple of years ago, he got stage
three throat cancer and I really kind of dropped everything
and wanted to let my kids know that I can
still show up for him even if he's sick, and
so we would go over. Sophia moved in full time
(30:50):
with me at that time because he couldn't take care
of her. And you know, he only lived around the corner.
So we'd bring him waters and he can only eat
certain foods, and we would bring the food over. And
he had a girlfriend that was helping him at the time,
and it was hard. It was really hard, and we
got really close at that time, and I thought, oh
my god, this is so cool. It's going to be great.
(31:10):
And then when he went into remission, it was back
to the same old thing.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That's unfortunate. It's an immaturity for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, that's finally when I went, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done, well,
go bye.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That was where the boundary then needed to be set
for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But you showed up in a way too that I
think is a prime example for your kids, which yeah, yeah,
they need.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This day to this day, they'll say to me like, Mom,
don't don't even answer his emails, don't do anything because
he'll like he always threatened to sue or threaten to
do this or threaten, always threatening. And uh and now
I get the email. I don't even open it. Delete.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I don't even good for you.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And like my kid, like I say, my kids are like, Mom,
don't let him control you anymore. It took a long time.
When you're controlled like that by a narcissist, it's really hard.
Like when I met Eddie, I really thought that he
didn't love me because he didn't try to control me.
He let me do whatever I want. I had to
reprogram my mind to be in this relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So I feel you on that friend same, I was like, No,
this isn't he loves and respects me, This isn't. This
isn't gonna happen. This is a joke.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
What a concept?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Put this chip in my neck because he loves and
respects me. Yeah right, it's crazy man girl. Okay, So
then then what's next are you Are you guys done
filming now or yeah, we're all done.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We're airing right now. We are on I don't know
episode six or seven, and I think we have a
total of like sixteen seventeen episodes. I'm not positive on that,
and reunion probably in the next couple of months, and
who knows, almost our filming again.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
A final thing that you can that you kind of
say to yourself when I know you say you don't
care about the headlines or this, that and the other,
but is there something where you hold on to that
other people could to take into their day too and
not let things weigh heavy on them from what people
say about them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know, it's hard because, especially being in the public eye,
you get attacked by everybody left and right on social
media and in the press and things like that. And
it took me a long time to to not let
it bother me. I will say, if it's about my children,
it will always bother me. Of course, it will always.
And you know, there has been situations where certain cast
(33:29):
members or some have gone after me or my kids
or whatever. But overall, I just my mindset is.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Who these people don't know me.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
They're not affecting my life. If I do not turn
on my phone and look at Instagram and see negative
things about me, it's never gonna it's not gonna affect
me at all. So why am I affected when I
see it? I don't know them, you know, I don't
know who they are, so they can they can f
off for all I care. And most of the time,
these people they just want to be heard. And if
(34:03):
they say something really nasty to you and you'll be like, oh,
you know, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean that, they're like,
oh my god, I knew you could be my favorite.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They just want to be heard, and I normally don't
give the time anymore. Like before I would be like
answering to all negative people. Now I'm like, no, I
don't care. I'm living my life. Whatever you're saying is
your point of view, doesn't affect me. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah love that. Good for you. Well girl, thank you
so much for coming on the podcast. We appreciate it,
and we'll make sure everyone listens to your podcast as well.
Since we are all in the iHeart family.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes, yes to teas in a pod. Well, thank you
so much. It was great being on your podcast. Thanks girl,
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Ye sister, bye bye bye. I remember one time I
gotta When I responded back to someone, They're like, oh
my god, Jennifer Aison never replies, I love you. I'm
just so sorry. I was having a bad day. It's negative.
It's just like them. It's like children. Yeah, they need
a SANSI.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, okay, let's take a break.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I need a water before I try heave began, and
then let's go on stage and talk about Miranda.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
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He's about the date a multitude of women.
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Speaker 2 (36:34):
Did you guys see them Miranda Thing?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I did, Okay, So I have thoughts and I've watched
a few things. Basically, she was on stage singing and
she called out two girls that were taking a selfie.
She was in her Vegas Residency Vegas Regancy. Yes, yeah,
which does.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I don't know why. That's a little different to me.
It feels a little different. Okay, Okay, I have I have,
I have stances. Okay, I'm interested to know your stance
because you're a performer.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
So she called them out in the middle of the concert,
stopped the song. Stopped the song. They were taking a selfie.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
They were taking a selfie background right, because I don't
know that. I don't know if they were just too
taking a selfie. Like, I can pull the video if
you want, I can show you the picture is not
a selfie. It's the girls and they have Miranda in
the background. It's like five women in their age thirty
to sixty, So these.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Are so they were getting a whether it's a selfie
or not. They were taking a photo with Miranda in
the background on stage.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yes, with a flash. Okay, okay, Miranda, don't stop the show,
stop the show, stop singing. She's like, are you really
taking a selfie? I don't know the exact quote, but
it was like, I'm here to sing some damn country music.
Can we just do that?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'll clearly know more about this than well.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I can pull up the video.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
It wasn't just like a stop. It was more like
a can you believe this is happening? I'm trying to
sing this song. She called them out on stage and
these girls are taking a selfie.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, okay, these girls are worried about selfie and.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Not listening to.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I have three thoughts. I've called out a guy at
a show for watching.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
At wine down. He was watching sports, so as a joke,
to be a part of the shtick, I'm like, what's
the score? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I was like, I was like, buddy, what's the score?
Tell me what the score is?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Because I thought it was funny, you know what I mean. Yeah,
so I called out in a funny way. Everyone's laughing.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Again. That's the vibe of like wind down. Very different,
very different in my mind. There's only in my mind
again my opinion. Everyone's opinions are different. In my opinion,
when someone is taking a selfie, like we're you know
when we say I love When someone's taking some off,
I'm like, hey, I'm like I'm going to go in
and like cheese, because that's a part of them remembering
(39:06):
the concert and having fun and you know, wanting me
to be a part of it, and or even if
it was just them, I'd be like, take as many
million selfies as you want, like you're at my concert
having so much fun, like and personally like the selfie
point part at the end of our shows, and like
my shows are my favorite because I'm just like I
get to be like hey, and like I've seen Adele
(39:28):
do it. I mean, so many classy artists are, you know,
taking selfies with people or whatever. I get the other
side of it where it's like, okay, you know, I'm
here to listen to music, but it's also it's a concert,
like don't you like in my mind, I'm like, wouldn't
you want people having fun? And the only way that
(39:48):
I can see someone calling out somebody else is if
they were being inappropriate or if they're being super loud
or disrupting the show for other people. That's the only
part that I would say, hey, can you this your
kind of just because we've had the drunkies where it's
just like it's a little too much, and then I
kind of motioned to someone else to be like where
they're just like screaming talking during like yeah, you know
(40:11):
that's that's a different story. But this seem this seems
like a respectful situation where they were just wanting to
take a photo, and in my mind, I thought that
was kind of rude. Okay, I also agree. I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
I think it's the sill I think it's the silliest
thing I've ever seen. I'll just be honest.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just I feel like they paid.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
And I know I've seen a lot of people say
it doesn't matter how much they paid. Some people are
like people have lost concert etiquette, blah blah blah. These
tickets for the Vegas Residency. That's why I mentioned that,
because the tickets for the Vegas Residency. I think I
could be wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that
their tickets specifically were in like the seven hundreds.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Say they're not cheap each.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, so these women and they're dressed to the nines,
like you could tell. And I'm not I'm just saying
like it was to them a very respectful event. This
wasn't like they just rolled in, We're being drunk goes
they like, and they documented it with Miranda in their picture,
Like to them, it was like a girl's night I think.
So that's why I felt, I get nervous to get
(41:15):
everybody canceled. But it just feels a little bully like
when you have the microphone and you can say that
and you're and you're doing that to women that the
woman has spoke out since.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh she she did what she said.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
She basically said it wasn't you know, we just wanted
to document and she wasn't. She said that she probably
she'll never stop listening to Miranda's music and she still
loves it, but she probably won't go to a concert.
I think it was her to a Miranda concert.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Again. I think it's a different story when it's like, hey,
if you don't want phones or people taking selfies, Like
we say no phones during the first part of our
line because we don't want people hearing those things, not
because we don't want them videoing or whatever. But if
you don't want phones or people taking videos or selfies
or whatever, say it's a no phone policy, Well you
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can you can have that. You can choose that. Especially
at comedy shows you take their phones, or.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
If you're like at like a listening room or something,
if you're at the Bluebird or if you're at like
something like that, and it is purely about just listening
to the music. Say take the phones. No, phones, don't
do it. I get that. But a situation like this,
I don't understand. I think she took advantage of the situation.
They've paid a lot of money, and if someone called
me out in the middle of a concert, I felt
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that thing wrong. That was I paid seven hundred dollars.
I would never support that artist again.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It's crazy because I would, I think because I'm married
to an artist. Like I've seen my husband legit pull
those people up on stage and me like, girl, get
up here and get a real picture.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, I'm like facetiming people on stage. And then I
know I'm not the best singer. Like Miranda is an
amazing artist, and she's an amazing singer and like an
insane vocalist. I know I'm just a monkey show. I
get that. So I'm going to make a giche just
saying like I get my stick right. So it's like
but even so, like if I'm at a Sam Smith
or Chris Stapleton, I'm going to take selfie because how
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cool is this? Even if I was an a Miranda concert,
I would take a selfie, And like with Maria like
her in the background because I respect her and like
her as an artist, But if I was to get
called out from her, I'd feel so embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Well that's that's how it feels in that too, because
it wasn't like, hang on a second, I got some
real hot girls over there taking a selfie.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
No, it's she literally said, I'm pissed.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't. I know I'm a little
blunt with it, but I just don't think. No, it
just also not how it's became this big thing. It's
like she made it a big thing that it's just
should we shouldn't. It should never be a thing. It
shouldn't have been a thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think. I think honestly, she just doesn't like the phones,
which again, you know she wants people just to be
present and not be on the phones. I get it.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I'm on my phone all the time, so I can
have I could see her backlash and be like, Janny,
you're on your phone all the time, like you can't
even put your phone down like I Again, I get that.
I like to document cool concerts.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I like to go back. I'm like, oh that's clean,
doon like having that video with like that was. I
go back to it all the time. Yeah, it such
a good thing. But like she had also stopped back
in twenty nineteen. I believe it was someone was taking
a selfie during the House That Built Me, and she goes,
you're really taking a selfie in the middle of the
house that built Me. So I think she just wants
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to have a concert where it's just the presence of
like people, and that's totally in her right. Just take
away people's phones and don't call them out.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
I think two things with that. A. I think it
would be pretty easy to do that, especially at the
Vegas Residency.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Easy no phones.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
Other side of that, she probably knows people aren't gonna
she won't have as much ticket sales. I don't like
it when they take my phone at his comedy shows.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We'ved kids anxiety. I'm like, what if my kids need me?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Had I realized that the last one we went to,
I probably wouldn't have gone. So I think that there's
a part of her that knows if she puts that
policy in place, she's not going to sell I mean,
there's too many people there that have to be reachable. Yeah,
when they're gone, you know so.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And disclaimer, this isn't me like hating house that built me.
By the way, is one of my favorite Oh like
love her. I mean we're not like friends, but I
still respect her as an artist. I think she's amazing.
I just personally, as a fan, would not like to
be called out that way.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Yeah I wouldn't either, And I don't mean to be
so blunt about it, but I just I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
They just weren't disrespectful. That's the hard part for me.
Like she is such a level, She's in a level
in my brain, a very high level performance to me.
So I understand the wanting people to like be in
your music and like a listening room vibe right at
a show.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Like I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I just I really, I just like her so much
that I really tried to like get on her page,
but it kind of bugged me because I thought, these
girls are just having a really good night out.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
Yeah, I just again, seven hundred dollars fifty dollars, it's
a lot to spend. It doesn't matter how much you spend.
Concert tickets are extra when it comes to you these
you know, everyone's income you spend money to have a night.
I just think something like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
That, Like, also they need to see her.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
And to be you know, after you've spent money. I
just I don't love that.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Come it felt like these are sticky watching it, I
was like, Oh, that's yeah. And then I'm like, well,
maybe they were super drunk, or maybe like it was,
they were causing a scene, or maybe they had like
flash flash flash flash flash by because that becomes annoying.
They during the shash.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Well, but I mean one flash is fine too, you know,
but if it's like a they're constantly like that would
be annoying.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
So it's like, you don't know what. Having said all that,
I am living through people's videos of the Taylor Swift concert.
Watch all of them because I'm like, I couldn't afford
a ticket once they all got right.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
But did you see her all out the security guard.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Oh that's such a pretty photo of everyone.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Sorry, did you see I would have taken that photo
all day long. Did you see Taylor Swift call out
in the middle of her concert and start singing call
out the security guard?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
No, it happened. Who was heckling?
Speaker 6 (46:54):
A fan was like and she was like, you stop,
She's fine, and like some security guard was like, I
don't know if this fan. I didn't read all about it,
but I don't know if this fan was just maybe
was drunk and was doing some stuff. The security guard
didn't like the security She called out the security guard.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And told him to stop.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Wow in the middle of the that. I understand her
fan spent a lot of money for that sure concert.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, that's kind of where I'm at with Miranda. I'm like, girl,
they paid a lot of money to come see you,
and this photo is like very classy, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
It's not a and not I don't know. I just
I think too because I we pay our bills by
fan money, Like if no one likes us, we don't
have a house to live in kind of seeing of
houses the built up I mean.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So I'm like, if.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
They're there, they're there because they love you and they
want to watch you and they want to document you.
Like you're there, Jessica Simpson, I didn't have the moment.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
You know, And again I think it's just like respectful,
like the people of the throwing things, like you don't
throw things on stage. That's a reason to stop thing.
You know, that's a reason. Like that's like this, No,
you know, don't be the let when the artist is talking.
Don't be screaming at them while because that, again, is
so distracting. Let's think you're taking a million trillion you know,
flash flash back. That's distracting. But it's like this, just
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one little photo, like yeah, anyways for them, g n
O is all they were trying to have. Guys. I
was like, guya, well we are in the mode all right, guys,
fun to have. Oh can we just do this again?
Can you get us together? I need it.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm just always afraid to misspeak because I'm not sleeping
and my hormones are crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well, girlfriend, get on board with me. Two peas in
a pod. Uh okay. I love you guys, I love you.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Bye,
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