"I LOVE YOUR DULL ENERGY!" w/ Mike Castle and Jacquis Neal

Arden's Dating Guru Mike Castle and the Horny Pool Inspector Jacquis Neal join Arden and the Production team to break down the EMERALD CITY EPISODE!  AI Contestants! Early Bachelor Announcements!  Dry humping on pillows at the mall!

- Arden thinks Jeremy might steal the whole thing!

- Jacquis knows not to call his mom on camera!

- Mike was fascinated to watch Sam short circuit when one too many questions got asked!

All that plus........TWEET OF THE WEEK!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of iHeartRadio. Y'all.
I'm a Southern lady again. Hey, we are back in
my bougie garage. It's hot as balls, and there was
an earthquake yesterday. It scared me.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I was at the Glendale Gallery and I don't recommend
being in a ball.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You know, because that's also near Pasadena. Shoot off the ceiling.
I was on a zoom and I started screaming an earthquake, earthquake, earthquake,
and they was like a business zoom and they thought
I was like excited about their idea. I jumped under
the table. Hello, I'm all getting another episode of leaks

(00:42):
at this Rose. My name is Arto Marine. Come to
you from my bougie garage in Los Angeles, California. It
is hot, y'all, and this time of year, I don't
do well. I'm not a desert flower, but I'm trying
to not throw in the towel. So I'm wearing another
one of my Southern lady outfits. Of those girls made
me buy in Charles. I feel like I'm a basic bee,

(01:02):
but I'm kind of put together and I'm like ready
for my Bachelorette season.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
There's a confidence in being a basic Bee.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I literally never I have like a whole basic Bee wardrobe.
I have like they like made me like put together.
So I'm just like it all feels like I could
wear them on dates like and honestly, I'm only wearing
them so that I get them into the rotation because
in my mind this I shipped through the box and
I'm like, I'll never wear any of this ship and
I'm like, no, just put it on this kind of cue.

(01:30):
It's cue, you look great, thanks your keys. Okay, Well
I want to say this. We are going to New
York and I now I so I broke up with
the guy that I was dating and I wanted you free,
So I'm free. I'm going to do what you Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Are you going to be?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I am willing to be at the live show. So
October fifth at seven or seven thirty at Bellhouse, It's
going to be me doctor Banana seven thirty seven, doors
are at seven, Jackie is going to be Jerry Trainor's coming,
Jordan Carlos Seth Herzog. I think Maggie Lawson might come.

(02:10):
I love it, and I think Aaron Fuley might come,
and I'm going to reach out to Peter Pilot. They
will not clear our Queen's. They won't clear Teresa and
they won't clear it. But they might come watch the show.
There might be some golden Bachelor's in the audience, and
to make it and then once they're there, once they're there,
who knows if there's like a mike. But I'm gonna do.
I'm willing to do what Ja Keys did.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Can I at least pick two p yes?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So bring your mens, bring your men's.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
They do not need to watch the show. They do
not need to be listeners of the podcast, So bring
your mends. I'm going to have the aide range be
from thirty what five three thirty two to fifty five? Okay,
No aspiring performers. I do not want. They cannot be
a secret.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Headshot underlined five times.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Literally, I'd rather date a twenty four year old that's
like I'm a mcaree on it, Like like, no aspiring comedian.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You just like named a plot of like a romance novel,
so it's like crazy. I would even date a hot
twenty four year old mechanic. Cool, Yeah, totally like we're
no watcher.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I do not like you cannot bring somebody that wants
to be a stand up he has a script.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
In a drug. I don't even like stand up.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, no, no, So bring your men who have like
a job. Yes, I will go on a date with
them after the show.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Okay, And I'm not and I'm telling you now, I'm
not picking nobody white.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, thank you all.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
My non white men. Yes, chance visit.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I am so sick of white men. Believe me, I am,
believe me. Bring any like like I am open. I
want somebody fun, cool, hopefully has a job, hopefully no
roommates unless they live in a lot with a bunch
of roommates, and they're fun.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
And ideally progressive politics.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I think I don't need to make America.
I don't look right red right now. I call it
just be cool. So bring your brother, bring your your
partner's brother. Look, that's I will go on a date.
We're gonna pay. We're gonna have a New York night.
We're gonna have a New York name. Okay, here we go.
I'm gonna introduce the pod. We're gonna By the way,
what an episode last night is.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Just incredible stuff. I was texting you as I was watching.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
This season has been fun to break down. This has
been a very fun pod. Some seasons are more fun
than others to break down. Now I want to I'm
so excited to have this person be a part of
the podcast. Now, I didn't know that you desired this
or I would have had you on long ago.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh, I appreciate that all.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like for sure, I'm gonna say no, we'll get you
a nickname from the podcast by the end of the podcast,
because it happens naturally. But I'm gonna give you a nickname.
I'm gonna give you a title. So let me introduce
your cohort and that's you. Hear what the title? Sure,
this person is a star. You know him from you
know him from Grand Crew, you know him from the
He is the host of Comedian Feud. Yeah, he's a

(04:59):
host of Comedian. But I'm going to show a title.
You get a title. Most important, Well, you were the
Bachelor and Brooklyn Bachelor twenty twenty three, and most importantly
you are the Horny Pool inspector of the podcast. Ladies
and Gentlemen jack Keys Neil.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh, we back were back yes, hello, Hello.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, Maggie wanted to come on with you, but it
was her birthday and she's that attack Maggie. She's our
new rookie this year.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I know she was great.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
She's a Maggie.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Now, okay, so this so you're gonna get a title.
This man was the star of Bruce Brothers. He's the
star of Cliff He's a brilliant comedian. He's one of
my very good friends, and he also happens to be
married to one of my very best friends. But I'm
going to say this, I like you so much that
I both as a friend and I respect you. So

(05:49):
I feel like when I've been having because I well
you will you have been because you knew my ex husband,
and I feel like you are rooting for me, and
I feel.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Like still hasn't accepted my friend request.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh that's so fucking funny. We could talk about that later.
That's so funny. Oh my god, that's full at the end,
but we have time. Yeah, this is funny, it's brilliant.
But as I've been dating, I feel like when I
need a straight male perspective because I get so he's
married to Lauren lop Gus, but then I'm always like, Okay, yes, Lauren,

(06:22):
what does Mike think?

Speaker 7 (06:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Weird?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I trust you because I feel like you are
rooting for me and like you also know when somebody's
full of ship. And we both had high hopes for
the last Jenlemal I.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Know, and now I'm relieved, though I'm like it's done.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It didn't happen. It was not just and this is
a good lesson for later, just because on paper it's
what you got to listen to what they're actually staying
to your face.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I know. And he was not the guy I didn't
want to want to.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
We both liked him. He was on paper like oh,
like this is a great guy, this is a big
this could be a big thing, but you got to
listen what's flying and it was not what we wanted
to hear. And even like both if you and Lauren
were like no, I know, I know, because he was charming.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I didn't want to admit it either. I could. I
was like to stop. He hung himself with his words.
I know, if he could just have stopped, if he
could have just stopped to shut.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Then up, which I feel like is the theme of today,
not even yes, so.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
For now, placeholder, I'm going to say my dating guru.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm really chasing a name like Bender or Jubil or
whatever that other guy's name. The two radio hosts.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
Oh, my god, better.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Better, better. I mean, do you want love? Do you
want dating guru? Or do you want to be Jubu.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'll take It'll be hard for me to really earn Jubu,
I think.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Okay, okay, your children are going to call you.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay. We have our production team, without whom we could
not do this KT Money KT Money Levine. We also
have doctor Hannah Montana, Arianna Rosanna, Rosanna, Dana Mittens, me
Irene Josy Levine. Welcome to program of Doctor Banana. No.
I want you to know that my dating guru requested
to be on the pod with the Horny Pool Inspector.

(08:20):
This was a request, yes, and we actually talked because
we usually have three people on and we decided to
keep it pure to for you to enter it.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I appreciate that. Well, that's also why I requested Jackies.
I wanted to feel comfortable and yeah, he's my way in.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Let me tell you, Lauren, when we first started dating,
we watched that was my introduction to the best. Yes,
and we watched religiously forever.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And then we had kids and then we we watched
one season and we just completely stopped one Yes, and
so it was this long break and so this was
my return, was watching this, and it was really excited
to watch. And I have a totally renewed I have
a new perspective.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's okay, this is so fun.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Okay, I gotta say I'm enjoying Jen. Are you enjoying
Jhen jack Keys? I am? You're bored by her?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
I was bored by her at first, but but this
season has picked up.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
The last couple of episodes, I picked up I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Know who's don't I almost lost.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I did too, let's just get gone.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I was ready.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I was ready to swear off of I mean literally.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Too, because I was like, look as we know, because
we were excited about my last leater. Like when you're
like into somebody, you you're filtering everything through, like but
it should it should make and if it just doesn't
make sense, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
But wait, I love Marcus.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh no, no, not Marcus. We're talking about Sam.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I know what I'm saying, but we got Marcus. That
was like he made me my eyes filled with tears.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I have to say I really fell harder for Marcus
because Marcus has been holding it close to the chest.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But now we see why. Also, he didn't trumpa dump
that he did.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Exactly first moment.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Do you think they gave him a second on on
one to get that because he refused to trauma bond
the first day I trauma.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
He has shrapnel on his leg.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
He just seems like the type of guy where he's
a little no, he has elegant and now he's like
if you, but he has the story of left at
the daycare.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
But he also got sounded very hard.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
But if she's about to do hometown, I'm.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Sorry, but needs therapy, not an engagement.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, I cannot bold.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Because I don't think he's ready to get married. You
can't be like I can't tell you anything and then
be like, let's get married.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean, it looks like it looks like he might
self eliminated on market. But he might be. He might
self He looks like he injects next week.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
It looks good.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It could be trickery, it could be shadow play. Help Okay,
I want to there are I just want to say,
this is the most low budge season. First she doesn't
even get to go to the mansion. Then she's like,
we got a tax credit, we're going to Australia. And
then rather than like started, why couldn't you have started
in Seattle? And then we know the progression. He started

(11:11):
like Calabasas. Then you go to like some weird place
in the US. Then you go, now we're in Australia.
It's like it's like they threw it together. It's like
they forgot the episode.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And I started.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I was like, wait a minute in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, just he didn't even like phone it in to
be like I think he's multitasking with the Golden and
it's not. This is not his number one.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Like everyone's happiest on the Golden Set. I guess.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yes, everybody wants to stay over there because it's fun
as cute old man.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Did they travel last year last time on Golden No,
they just stayed in Calabasas For the most part, Right,
did they travel?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I did? They were? Gary said they had the dead
Horse visit, but that was hometown's.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
I try to remember if they win.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They did there was horniness in the in the because
he boned somebody in the fantasy suite in an island.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'm saying early on though they didn't I can remember.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I also he got to like a Sandals, he
got to like Hornville.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
They're waiting for that wicked contract to close.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Do that thing. Here we are. They said, it's so
half assed. They're like, hello Seattle. They're like, I've never
felt so seen from last week, next week's hometown. She goes,
it's the Emerald City. I'm like, has anyone ever called
I have heard that?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Okay, it is called that, but I don't know anybody
alive who.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Actually I don't know what I've heard it, but I
don't think it's I was like, I've never heard just
like wicked Green Green, Oh my god, this.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like one researcher found that it was once called that
by one person. Let's go to.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
They go. So she made Charity, who is looking adorable?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Adorable?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I wanted she didn't talk about her fiance they got married.
They did, Yeah, there's photos of it. What no Google
I need?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
You could feel in your tone that you were setting
up a conspiracy. I just felt I want to hear
the rest.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I like him, and I wanted her to be like
it was hard for me to filter out don't right. Yeah,
but then when I knew was dont don't dont like
like like it didn't. I wanted a little blake, but.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It was so clear, oh exclusive wedding planning.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I just felt like I wanted a little because
I think Dotton is such a catch and they're one
of our better couples. I wanted her to say his name.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Was, say something, say his name, say something.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I mean today was that was a weird episode because
we got three recent batz.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, you know three people who've been on the show.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Are you worried about Dottan when you saw her vibe?

Speaker 4 (13:50):
No, I wasn't really worried about Donnan, but I did
forget about him.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So cute together she was like, but she was still organized.
She's like, I made a list of qualities that ever
as the dates went on for me to reflect on,
and she's like, well, I haven't ever done that. She
and the only person each time somebody als like, who
are you into? Sam's really holding back, you could call
it holding back. It's like he's a total child. He
has no personality. You want to call it holding back.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yes, there's nothing, there's nothing within.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, he's not even a challenge.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
He's holding back.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah. I think he's fully showing you exactly what.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, and you're like.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
He's like high school hot or something where you're sort
of like anyone has attracted him. It's like they see
some potential. Yeah, he is himself, Yes, brutal, just like
every time they cut him, was like, wow, is this
really the guy?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I mean to me, Grant or Jonathan are so much hotter,
just physically like and just not opening, like the fact
that he that Sam this ding dong, like even just
physically that this is the one you pick.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
But we assume he's like cut or something.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
He must have a twelve pound dick.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
And I don't understand because I like, I don't even
keep They even keep talking about there.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Was this physical connection.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
In this physical connection, I'm like, I'm not seeing anything
different from you and anybody.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Else, yeah, or any other physical connection.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
She's scared of heights and they did like a bungee
jump episode. He threatened to push her. She didn't want
to do it. He's like, would your problem She's She's like, well,
I won't go he's like, oh, I'll push you. He
like threatened to push her off.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
She was like, yeah, I think I want to just
walk around.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
He was like, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, just like you kept him. She cast that week.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So she's like, well, Sam's not showing me. He reminds
me of my exes. I don't know if it's just
physical or it's like it's just physical, it's literally So
she's like, well, Jeremy, I haven't gotten a date yet.
And he still didn't get a date. So they're in
Emerald City. There's records on the wall of they're Hyatt
and a box arrived and I'm like, I thought there
was gonna be like a shopping like one of those
like pretty women shopping things. And Mark has got a

(16:02):
tiny green letterman jacket that did not fit this man
right away his other and it's like, what's weird?

Speaker 5 (16:10):
You know?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I looked at that and I thought I wish I
had the confidence we just put it on a jacket
over a jacket. I was like, I can't even I
would look at that like a like like you must
be a jack. Only a jack would do that Jack puts.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
On a letterman. Would you put on a tiny letterman jacket.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, man, my tt is too big.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yes, you look at it like okay, I get.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
It, and yeah, busting out of two jackets.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
He put his jacket on over his jacket and they
go and and and there's like a suitcase and they okay.
So then they're like a trolley pulls up. They're in Seattle,
and out pops Jessie Palmer in a green smoking jacket.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Dude, amazing that was.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
This spelt like they ran out of money, like it
was at the Grove.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
It was a Disney Channel original movie is I could see.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
So they had like curtains and I could see through it.
I could see the hand of like a grip that
was holding the curtain shut, and then Jesse like way
they and then I saw like a hairy fingers like
moving the curtain to open. It's like you're at the Grove.
It's like at a mall, like an outdoor mall, and
somebody said to spray paint some yellow to make it

(17:30):
like the yellow brick road in front of like a
rizzia and like fucking the American Girl Doll store and
like Tommy Box and everyone's just staring at them and
you have two of her rivals for Joey. The woman
who was wild to it was a woman and the
woman who they they said that they wanted to be

(17:51):
the bachelorette. But then she was like maga and then
so like appear like they like off, Yeah, Daisy's like, maga.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Was she one that the sam guy said, I thought
it was yass?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
That was yes.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
So she also just saw Daisy who I think ABC
might have offered it to. And then Daisy was like, oh,
I'm turning like I didn't want it, but like I
think she had to say because there was all these
problematic tweets.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
And that's the one who also did the video, right, Yeah,
that's right. What was the video the music video where
she Yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Was like it was like it was like video she
was in a like mind. The blond one was in
a video.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Called crazy Crazy. Why is she in it?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
What is it for Christmas Tree? She's a deaf girl
that group on it girlup on a Christmas tree farm
and she was in a lick my nose and then.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
All these like Magga tweets came out of It's like
she seemed like the sweetest she I.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Mean, like a complicated crazy time.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
There was rumors that someone that Sam wanted, and there
was rumors that she was gonna be bad. So there
she is and the woman at one, Joey, who she liked,
you know, So there they.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Are like a they're acting. It was sorry to say.
Another thing is like high school, but it reminded me
of like cool girls from high school, like in a
school play. Like the way they were saying every line.
It was like stiff, detached, but also like smug. It
was so wild. I said out loud, this is the
worst writing I've ever seen. I'm shocking.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
So they're like, okay, Finding and falling in love is
about choices and compromise. They're like, okay, She's like I
feel seen. I like Marcus. And then they're like scream,
what do you want to scream? And they both go out.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I like it. I like also, all the while there's
this distant like orchestral version of defying gravity playing, you
like kind of hear it.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Sometimes I'll watch this show and I'm like, I, you know,
there are people who I just probably couldn't date, like
because I'm.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
So I don't have a problem for.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Anything, don't bring somebody with aspiration to bell.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Listen, Yeah, talking about screaming for an audience for what
what's this proven?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yes, yeah, I was thinking that there's I couldn't say
one normal thing that any of these guys say on
this show, Like everything I would say would be so
crazy sounding to her, like in the context, like you
just can't say these basic things that they all say
so crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I would love to see any of us and the.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I want to see, but I would never be able
to stop talking about the cameras, like the meta narrative
of like that we're all watching and doing this, or yeah,
it's so bizarre. I think that's Sam. Are we allowed?
Can we just jump around to because I just want
to say the thing about Sam, which is I felt
like he was so desperate to say the reason he
likes her is because they're on the show. Was like

(20:50):
short circuiting him, is that he couldn't say what he
felt like was the clear reason, because.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
You're the prize of this because here showtown. I wanted
to get the party boat, but what I got was
the like the dodge like ram like whatever, like.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, it was pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So he tried. He basically said it was like I
thought it was daisy, but it was a different prize. Okay.
So so then they're like, okay, slow or fast, and
he's like slow, She's like fast. She's like that's really
concerning to me. It's like, well, fast hasn't historically worked
out for you, Like fast gets you to somebody like Sam.
Maybe slow actually is like you get to know somebody.

(21:30):
It's more real, Like maybe it's okay to go a
little slow and not just manically act out your ferocious
love phrase.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Tattoo heard is he got to keep.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
The main thing the main thing. Hi, doctor Banana, how
are you okay? So then they had a pillow fight,
and then they ended up kissing and honestly getting a
little horny on a pile of pillows. At thus, after all,
it was like, J, I think she's hornier than Marcus.
She's hornier than him.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
J gonna be knocking sheets.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
In the fantasy, it's for him. I mean, I'm happy for.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I think it's your responsibility to knock sheets. In the fantasy,
is should be yes, or at the very least, you
should both stand totally silently and nakedly in front of
each other and it kind of nod if you don't
want to have sex, but you should still do that. Yeah,
I just be like, Okay, that's what it was that
was there that should be weighing in the final decision
on some level.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You have no doy, Yeah, no dooy. Okay, So then
so then we have so then so then we find
out that Marcus, who's had a hard time opening up,
he misses his sister. Oh, they also have this poor
man with improbable I have not diagnosing him, but he's
been through trauma and he's had grenades go off and

(22:49):
possible PTSD. You're having a pop balloon balloon and fireworks.
Fireworks are popping balloons?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Is that a.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Little like jarring?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Also, the entire show is sort of setting him up
for another type of trauma if he doesn't win like this,
another form. It sounds like like it looks like he's
going to pull the plug.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
That looks like he's about the plug's and again a lot.
That's where I can't take it when somebody leaves.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yeah, respect so much.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Agree to agree, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
You're agree to agree. So Marcus misses his sister. It's
the most important person in his life. So then they're
really trying to make him say it. They have videos,
they have letters, so there's his sisters on TV.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
It's so manipulous.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Don't come home without the perfect family, like I hope
you get engaged. And then'm like and then Jen's mom
says the letter, it's like, sorry, I couldn't give you
a perfect family with two parents. I mean this was
this was they really set them up to hear what
they needed to hear.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
To go.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Just click over early wound.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, so they go in a hot air balloon to
find gravity, full blast, and then she puts on one
of her classic cape outfits. She's got another cape. This
doctor Chivago bachelorette has been off, off the chart.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Can I just say, go up in a hot air
balloon is generous considering it was tied.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, Like he was up like fifteen feet.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I was like, I would be scared jump, I would
be terrible. Yeah, I would.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I've been on the table hot air balloon and I
didn't feel my knees the entire.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, I'm so scared. Yeah, I mean we were like
four hundred feet.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't really still, I don't really don't want to go.
I don't want to go anything, go ahead. They don't
know how to land them.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
It's scarier than than like parachuting. I'm like, you're just like,
get that little basket.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It gets turnover all.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Why they have no landing, none of the fall.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm not saying like on there, I'm just saying, like
it's a basket, it can fall.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
But also birds got beaks. They can like run into
it and pop the balloon.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Big, big, tenuous science like they're just burn bring into
everything about it is psychic.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I really dislike it.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I really do.

Speaker 6 (25:04):
All the videos of them landing, just like going through
like a picnic, they.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Can best case scenario that you're not going to throw
or something on the highway.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
We haven't perfected that over there, I would say.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
So. Then she puts on one of her doctor Chivago capes.
They go to the t Mobile Park. They're on the
baseball diamond for dinner, and here we go. She's been waiting.
She's like, I need them to tell like something that's
holding him back. I need to click. I need to click.
She's like, you know, she's like I don't like that.
Marcus can't share openly. So it's like get ready. It's like, well,

(25:41):
I'm just wanting to see where I come from. My
dad wasn't really around. I didn't come from the perfect family.
So if you come home next week, this is brutal.
This is one of the most sad stories No Wonder
tell literally one of them. And we've heard a lot
of terrible stories on the show. This was.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I asked Lauren not to look at me. This is
really hard touch.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I really liked this guy. Okay, so okay, he's like
my sister was born into a rough situation.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think it's mister and I.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, my parents who cannot take care of us. They
were unstable. They brought us to daycare one day and
they never came back.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
It's unimaginably sad.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
And then that started out a rough chapter. I took
on the role of lifting looking after my sister and
foster homes that were trying on a family for size.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I didn't know you could like do that, like when
I adopt a kid, and then we're are you fucking
kidding me?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Foster foster? It sounds like they were adopting, they were foster.
They were foster. At least they got to stay at
least they got to stay together. But he's like, He's like,
so I was hopeful to have a mom and dad,
but then they would change their mind and I thought
something was wrong with me.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And then so he's like, I was just worried. I
want love that would stay when everyone else would leave.
And she said, which was so sweet, if you ever
felt unlovable, you are worthy to me.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, and she but then also, I feel like that
almost like revealed her own trauma too, where I was like,
you know, kind of like the right thing to say,
you must be dealing.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Also, her dad, her dad like lived in the basement
and they took off. Her dad was like, I don't
want to be her dad is a basement.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
I can't imagine dude having that story and having that
need and coming on this show, yeah, and then making
it this far and then let's say he makes it
to fantasy sweets and having that trauma and knowing the
person that you now love is fucking somebody else.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You two of your friends, two of your hottest friends,
two friends.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I can't would light up the block?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Would I would? I could not.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I couldn't either. I could.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I just I don't. I'm not I'm not built.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I'm not either I'm not look live and let live,
and I admire people that can be an open thing.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
That is just it's like an industrial level of psychological torments.
It's like one of the most sickening things. It's really incredible.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Like you and you're Too Hottest friend are going to
go into a humping competition.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
You not only have fallen in love with this woman,
but with these two guys as well, who.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Are like your friends.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Wow, it's brutal. I am not secure enough in myself
to handle like and knowing that, like even if I
won that, they boned my Too Hottest bread.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yes, and once again you also go, if you're the
person who is running it, you gotta at least stand
naked and silent in front of all of that. It's crazy.
You couldn't do it. You have to you said do it.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, No, I just can't. So then so then they
had a nice date. He got the rose. So now
there's three roses left. So then there's a voiceover from
Jesse that's like there's something else, and they go outside
and there's fucking fireworks for this man, there's there was
an and but I feel like the budget there's no

(29:25):
to Neil arts, there's no bands. They're not a drone
show for they didn't have a drone show. They didn't
have they've just been I feel like they've really cut
the budget on I feel like it's less episodes were
already at hometowns next week, Like it feels less than
what yeah, because it used to be thirteen.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, I guess they're kind of they're trying to find
some thing, you know, because also there was a few
seasons ago two women as well, Like they're really trying.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
To hook it all right, any final things on market?
So you think he's gonna self eliminate that's they're making it.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Look, he's not gonna make it. He's not going to
make it for a few reasons.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
One like, yeah, she's you know, it's trauma and she's
connected to him. But in my opinion, it's kind of
clear who she's going for. But like, I, what do
you think I think she's going for Devin? Yeah, I
think it's I think it's kind of she she he's
the first person she told I love you basically, she
like is pretty clear to me that and I'm surprised

(30:24):
that it's not that clear to others.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
For me, it is.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
A deep a connection with any of those other guys.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, but he's doing a good job being kind of
subtle with it too. You know, he's kind of playing
the game. They could happen.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
You know, we still got three episodesparently.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Had some problem out Ye sure, really.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
That seems right that ship. Don't you kind of assume
that about all of these guys, that there's this this other,
this thing you feel.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I would have expected that from Sam if they were.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Like, yeah, yeah, I would be pretty surprised if he
was doing a lot of work at a keyboard. To me,
I feel like he's just getting mad and like punching
the wall more than comments just broken in dry wall.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
There's a lot of up plaster.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yes, he Devion was liking all these problematic tweets, but
then today I tell comedic, he's now going he went
and unliked all those from instagrams, and now he's aggressively
liking a bunch of Joe Biden instagram He's trying to
like go back, and it's almost like comedically stupid.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, we know what you're doing trying.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
He's trying to.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's almost weirdly more self aware than you guys usually are,
but that's.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Still Also it's also very talent because why would he
be doing why?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Why?

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Yeah, but also like why are you liking even like
liking a Joe. It's like, well, now Kamala's running, so
do you know like.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
Kamala these people vote, I'd be very nobody shirt maybe Marcus.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
It's the only one I was on January say.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
On Nancy Pelosi's We're gonna take a quick break.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Oh my god. They did not.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
No, they did not, Oh yes they did, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, guess what, Guess what? What do you love? What
do you love?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Guru?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Guess day of Guru. We're at the Jubile and Bender.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I literally had to keep rewinding that as well because
I felt like it was you know like sometimes when
there's almost I can add for something related, but like,
this is the actual show, this is what they're there.
That felt like very low budgets.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, So we literally have a lot of people who
do not watch the show. They just listen to the retelling.
So Jeuwbil and Bender are like a mourning DJ like
cheesy morning DJs and.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
And Bender or is it Jewbil has a huge necktest.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And I think we heard him say.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Two words yes. At one point he was really like
having a huge reaction to something.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yes. And they dust it off, Jason and Mollie.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Mezznik dusted way off.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
By the way, he didn't pick her. I didn't watch
that season before me. She wasn't she was the second runner.
He traded her in.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Her.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I said, I've made a mistake. So al did the
two that have had trade in both have worked.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, look, look yeah, it's it's a it's a it's
kind of a good characteristic. Basically, you admit you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
So once again, exactly once again as with Charity, they're like, well,
who do you like. She's like, I like Sam, I'm like, dude,
this fall. So they're like okay, So then they come in.
Sam goes almost going to keep.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
The main thing, the men.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Thing this to down baby.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Devin made fun of him for that, like, oh, he
must be saying that.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Devin like immediately correctly identified that this would be a
like killing moment, which is so funny. You really know
the game. I would never have thought like he was like,
this is it, Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I constantly say, he's saying words, but he's not saying anything.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
He's literally is he the dumbest contempt we've ever had?
I've never seen any wild.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah, I was texting Art and I was like, I
don't think i've ever seen you could tell he was
gonna self sabotage, but I didn't know he was gonna do.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
It was literally surreal.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
So they start doing rapid fire word association so like
and the guys, most of the guys did fun. They
were sweet, they were he got fantasy sweets and his
answer was aggressive. And this is the same guy that
was like push her off to make her skydive. Aggressive.

(35:03):
He's like, I mean, like not in a fun flirty like, oh,
it's going to be fun, like you know, we're I'm
like in a fun it was It was on a
red flag. It wasn't It was not like a fun
version of getting thrown around the bedroom. It was sort
of like I want to throw you like there was
no safe word, you know. It just was weird. It
was like scary. It was scary. Karen who listened, who

(35:24):
wrote legally Blonde wants doctor Banana to look up and
see if he has any arrest record. Friar any friars Okay,
so that was a text to me. Okay, so aggressive
was scary. I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
He like set something off of me where I was
as a woman. I was like air and I just
don't don't don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Like and there's nothing behind the eyes.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, even if he doesn't do anything illegal,
it's like it's there's a coldness there.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah you know.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
So, I mean he didn't care about her at all.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
No, no, And he really was making that clear.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's like fire strong, pass I've been doing nothing. Oh.
So then he just panicked and he did what the
other Sam did during the dance day when the other
Sam didn't want to dance. He's like, whoa, whoa, stop
the music. I'm in love with you. This guy just
takes over the radio show in front of all these
other nicest guys like Jonathan's there's a few guys are okay,
and he's like, I've been doing nothing but falling in

(36:20):
love with you since the first time I saw you.
She was like, huh, like it doesn't mean real.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I wish I would have wrote that I was okay.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
So I started watching this pretty much like right after
I woke up.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
So the first like third of it.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
I'm like on the couch, blind, still closed, kind of
sleepy watching it, and this section woke me up, like
I like the I think the first thing and it
probably wasn't this when it was something similar to this.
The first thing he said to her was like, I
wasn't that impressed with you, And I was like.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
What, because I didn't know if you could love like
I do just so much kind and read the game
and he's just he's been nagging, yes, but I realized
that he goes. But the second you said that toast
about ferocious love, I'm like, oh, this is a girl
I could get behind.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Uh huh. It's crazy to yeah, the intermaginations of a
person like this, where you're like, that's all. It took
a phrase and you're like.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I got out of the limo and I didn't know
if you could love like I do, like toxically.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I got out of the limo and I was disappointed.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
You weren't.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
You were the other Generally I like white women like
that's what he said. They weren't dating or.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Maria crazy and you're not my type.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
And they know what the guy that I was dating
told me. I wasn't as type.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
What is this move? The honest it's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, okay, and then the whole selfless thing, Like.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Dude was amazing.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
This girl he goes, So then every guy leaves butt
Sam and he goes.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
This girl is and it gets way back.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
He goes and they get to watch.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Yeah, kudos to the whole I mean maybe they set
it up obviously, ABC. Kudos for them watching him pull
out the gun shoot herself in the foot and this say,
everybody leaves so he can shoot the other foot.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, with cameras and microphones and you guys can all go.
You stay here and tell Jason.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Molly, Jubile and Bender just sat back and we're like
just like, all right, you talk. Okay. So he said this,
he said this, this girl is not my type. I
thought it was going to be Daisy or Maria incredible,
but you have a stunning face. What is it about
me that you like your selflessness? All right? Well, how

(38:51):
do you know I'm selfless?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
You know?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I was thrilled when she said that.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
How do you know, like, you know, just like the
little things. She's like, that's kind of full of ship.
He's like, you know, like that night that we had
that one connection that was hot and then and then
she said, somebody said I felt like you kept me
in a closet. What was that?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
That was his explanation to why she was selfless. Apparently,
what mean you you liked me, but you like kept
me away? You kept your feelings for me?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Just for me? I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And also he would make every answer. I think it's
like Devin or one of them pointing out about himself. Yes,
she goes, do you feel like you know me? And
he's like, my love language is physical touch, and then
he stuck his tongue down her throat that.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
She asked him back.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Well, she I mean, yes, she should have done that.
He assaulted.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
He assaulted. He did.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
He literally was like he was like, how do you
know you love me?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Let me show you, and literally he.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Grabbed her face. It was it was hard to watch.
How do you know? Do you feel like you know me?
My love language is physical touch? And then he just
like jammed his tongue on her throat.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Insane.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
It was.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, well like it was. Also it was you're like
watching two people in like slightly different dimensions having like
like there is like no crossover between the two things
like he was fully short circuiting and not understanding what
she was asking, but he was going like he was
getting like so mad, I kept work up like it's crazy,

(40:35):
Like he kept breathing deep, He's just why are you
still asking me more fucking questions? Like it was like
getting scared.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
There was such a good tweet that is in the
running for Tweet of the Week that was like that
was just like it they basically compared to him, Like
the whole thing was like a guy that had to
do a book report and you could tell he only
read the back corper like he had he couldn't answer,
and he was angry and bullshitting and it was just
like so fucked up. So then Grant, it was just

(41:03):
like you could tell she was really off putting, kind
of angry after the date, Doctor Banana. Do you have
any thoughts on him being such a fool and kissing her?

Speaker 6 (41:13):
No, but I did find some stuff on sam oh
he was like dating multiple women at the same time
before he went on the show, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And also I think with Jerry Kid was right like
he's he's like a one night stand guy, so he
has these lines and then he doesn't really have to
speak to the women, and suddenly it's having to continue
to speak to this woman and I'm out of things
to say.

Speaker 10 (41:34):
Yes the Sentinel, and its like that, And it was
also like, look, the nature of the show is a
competition obviously, but it was also very competition based with him.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Even weeks ago he was like, I can't lose to
a dude like Devin.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I was just like, that's not the point show.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
You're going to ask questions.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, crazy, he's a dip ship.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
So then they go after there's like an after party
and Grant goes Grant. Can we just say, Jack Keith,
we were wrong. I was wrong about Graham.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Very happy about it. He's a very sweet dude.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
He's adorable, he's kind, he's gentle.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I know he was right. He said something very empathetic.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
He was sweet to everyone, including when Devin. Devin was
a piece of ship. He he was the peacekeeper always,
he was he always. How did you describe how great
Grant Grant was like a he could calm down the guy.
He was like very like always with everybody, even when
other people he would always kind of diffuse me and
sort of like see from somebody else's point.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Of view, like he was mature.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
He was mature, and like he's a good guy. Yeah,
you know what, I get me too. And I feel
like when you hear about like how he came from
his dad is newly sober. His dad was an addict,
and like he just got into rehab and and and
he was his idol and kind of felt like okay,
like you know, like he probably had to sort of

(43:06):
learn how to be hyper vigilant and deal with somebody
comes in in a different levels of emotion.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
And he said he welcomed him back in his life.
You're not some of your mistake, which he's lovely.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Grant is absolutely lovely. So so then Grant goes, I
respect you a lot and how you carry yourself. I
cherish that I can see being myself with you for
the rest of my life. And he said, I already
chose you. I'm falling in love with you, and I
mean that. And she liked that. She liked it.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Not enough, It's not enough.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, this, this, this section of the podcast of the
show is just truly making me so upset. Yeah, because
and again it's all editing, probably, but she also was
Jen was also saying it.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I was just like, you have even if they all are.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Bullshitting too, like men bullsh but you have these dudes
who are seemingly better for you, who are actually listening
to you, yes, who throughout this process haven't been just
total dicks the entire time.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Even Devin has not been a total the entire time.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
And I was like, and you are still contemplating whether
you want to keep Sam. I truly almost bought a
ticket to go live in solitude. I would have given
up on relationships, I know, because.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Jonathan is a durable grand even Devin, like they've all
and they actually also have stayed above the fray with
the SAMs. And like the fact that her attention is
always and maybe it's the editing, but it's just on Sam,
Like that sucks.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, Jen gave me hope. Me too, gave me hope.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
And listen, I know, the hope should be that men
like Sam don't exist, I know, but she gave me
hope that women don't choose men like this all the time.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
And it's crazy, I know.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So Jonathan feels strongly for her, Devon is excited for
her to go me to family. I know you she
goes you. I said to my mom, I don't want
to bring anybody home who doesn't make me proud or
make her proud. And I know who you are, and
you are the definition you make me proud. And she said,
I feel so seen by you and you get me.

(45:17):
And then she said, I'm falling for you as well.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
If Devin has older sisters, I will like and trust
him more.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I think he's an only child by her, he has
a younger sister, and.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, because that checks out. I want him to have
older sisters who made him a better guy, not a
younger sister who used to be scared of him, because
that kind of confirms my feeling about him is that
he would be scary to a younger sister. Where if
you had older sisters teaching him how to be like
a good man kind of thing, that I would trust him.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Agree. Agree, Okay, So then she's she's like, well, so
then I feel so seen by you, and she's like
I She's like, Sam, I don't know that he can
back up his feelings for me. So she's like, you
know what, I'm gonna go find Sam. Should we take
a quick break and come back and talk about this.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I couldn't believe that he was still in the picture.
When she said she was gonna go do that, I
was like, he's done. Now you just had that session
with him. He's fucking done.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
All Right, We're gonna take a good break. We're gonna
come ba because this is such a fun section. It
needs its a little attention.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Bachelor villain and it's for the money for their grand followers,
and we're back.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
So then she goes in her little gown over to
their record filled Marriott and she's like, hey, and the once,
to my surprise, Jonathan is doing a crossword puzzle with Marcus.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
He was like twenty years. They don't they don't have anything,
they don't have to. I'm gonna be real. I have
a crush on Jonathan. Oh yeah, I want to. I
did John. I have a crush on Grant, but Grant
it is going to.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Be busy and he's a creative director.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Then he doesn't have a job. But it's not what
I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, he had a kind of key moment actually when
yes he was I feel like he said where Sam
was in a way where I was like, oh, he
seems like a nice guy. Yeah, it was like a
reaction of him looking around.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, he grew on me in his silence and the
moment he.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Was like he was actually doing that crosser buzz. I know,
I need a guy more of a job than that.
I don't want a creative your men folks that you're bringing.
I have to have a job, like a real job,
No creative director. I don't want a creative director. Okay,
here we go. So and I don't want to content creator. Okay.
So so she's like, hey, so listen when you said

(47:44):
I was selfless, what did you mean? He's like, I
was like.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
This someone in his throat is such a sketch, like
you immediately there's such a.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Weird things, like I think you should leave sketches.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yes exactly, he's weird.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yes it is, yes, yes, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
But it was like it was also like his whole
tone had completely changed, like he looked like pissed as
ship that it was about to happen again. Because are
you seriously gonna ask me what selfless means?

Speaker 6 (48:13):
Again?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Like mad? I mean, he's not he was.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
He didn't look he said it.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
He basically eluded, like why the fuck do you keep
asking me?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, he's like, you want me to use my words?
He says, you're don't do that good.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
You're so mad.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
So then she goes, he goes, I don't know, like
it's just you. I just feel like I can trust
her for a reason. She's like, okay, well how do
I fit into that? He's like, yeah, it's a tough feeling,
you know, it's just something I feel. She's like, okay,
well why me. She's trying so hard to get any
like a little drop of water out of a fucking rock.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
But to your point as well, that's so frustrating with
like Graham, just like being like a good dude. And
then she's going like, but maybe Sam, I can't the
most meat headed.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
So then she goes this, he does this. Of course
I did it, And he goes like this because I
love you, And she's like what She's like, you know,
you want to know why this is it? This is
where I'm coming from. I don't feel like this is

(49:21):
no substance or logic, there's no recourse.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
It was like what She's like, she just didn't buy it.
Of course, seeing so happy, a lot of women.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Wouldn't keep pressing and wouldn't keep being like no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Speak words to me.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Have you ever watched like a like a police confessional
video where it's like two hours in like this the
turn happened. I felt like we were seeing his turn.
He's like backed up against the wall and he's like,
I'm gonna just fucking okay, last ditch effort. I love Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
This is not even the final stop. She comes back later,
she comes back, So this is not even this is
still on the group day. This is not even when
she goes to the hotel. This is not at the hotel.
This is on the group date. Oh, we're getta get
it confused. Yeah, there's two parts of this. This is
not even at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I mean, this man had she gave him so many opportunities.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
So this was just still on the group date. So
then she has a whole other date with somebody else
before she goes back. She goes on a cute day.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
When is it by the way that she goes but
I didn't have the best time, And then like literally
Devin goes, do you think she's talking about you?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
After Jeremy's date.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I couldn't remember when that happened.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
My mind is happening here, it's not.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
There's Jeremy, so it's already happened.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Okay, so here we are. We're going. This was cute.
I got accused. I thought Jeremy was boring.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Jeremy is probably rich because he flew his Ferrari like
out or whatever he had, Yeah, the Corvette or whatever,
a cheesy car, a.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Gesu state event.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
He's a real estate investor from New York.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
He's got money, and he flew out his rich car,
and so she clocked. She clocked that he had money.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, the Miami.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
He has a rich car. He's a real estate investor
from New York. So they go to look, you know what,
go for it, you know. So she goes to Pike's Market,
Pipes Place, Pike Place. Cute.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Yeah, this is one of those interesting dates where because
I'm kind of surprised because she has there ever been
somebody who got their first one on one date literally
the episode before Hometowns and made it now like so
that was really surprised. I was just like wow, But like,
this date was very refreshing to watch for me because
one of my biggest gripes about this show and always

(51:45):
has been is ninety eight percent of these dates are unrealistic.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
This and like I've I've been on a date at
Pike Place with my current girlfriend and like so this
felt like, oh, this feels like an actual real yeah people, Yeah,
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
So so he was cute and he goes, you're supposed
to run and jump. I realized her skirt was her.
Her skirt was too.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
She smile when he turned the corner was like the
happiest smile I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
She was in a mini skirt. She loves a thigh
high boot in a minute, and she loves a cape
and so I think her ass would have been out
and there was too many people watching, but I could
feel that he wanted to catch her. He also wears
a lot of like alo yoga kind of big furry,
like the fleecy he's got an he's got a lot
of matching, like the brown sweatsuits, and then like the
fleet he's got like like like lady, he's got like

(52:39):
Brentwood Lady highnd like comfort.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, he's got a lot of little rules for himself
like that.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
He seems like he seems.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Like Long Island or like Upper East Side money.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
He's got money Westchester.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yes, he's like you. You sometimes in real life meet
these people who are from that kind of background and
you kind of go like, my instinct is not like you.
And then you talk to them and you're like, he's okay,
Actually you're okay. Well he was fight all that. You're okay.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
He was a heavy kid, which I like, Yes.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
That's a power. That's a power to have.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
That's a power to have because it makes you a
little as secure in a good way. And so so
he goes, you're supposed to run a jump, and he goes,
can I make her a bouquet? Can I just say
you now, two gentlemen ago doctor Shamwam Shamaua, I will say,
the guy always got me flowers.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Oh, this was when I first started dating Lauren. I
would make the most elaborate bouquets. Absolutely, like every time
I weave mete up. It's like I still do it
all the time. I'll like, stop and do it.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's like, yes, I flowers twice. Shamwam got me flowers
all this time, this last gentleman. It would never have happened.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
It would never have It's like the easiest thing to
do Trader Joe.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yes, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I'm literally gonna yell at him.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, I'm sorry I made that flex.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
But you have I think I had to teach shamway.
I think I had to drop him like, oh, a
lady loves flowers like a lady. I don't think this
last person would have figured.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
No. No, I can assure you we were so excited
so much. I know I've fallen so far from where
I once was.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
We all thought thought I had plans to bring him
on with you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm sure you did. Fun this only speaks to how
much he shot himself, like you made all of that happening.
They did at all crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
We all liked him, he was really I was like,
I thought, you know what, I'm gonna surprise him. He
would have been delighted to come on because he really
liked you, and then you good guys could have gotten
to know each other.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
You just like can't be with someone who like you
have to be with someone who is really funny and
like has a great sense of humor, but like he's
like I'm a contractor. Yes, Like you can't even fuk
with these people, like because he's like taking you for
he's like missing everything about it. It was such a mess.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
He didn't get it. He didn't know. I know, he
didn't know that I'm a unicorn.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yeah, he didn't get it. No, exactly, he didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
So he'll be on next season of the Bachelorette.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
He'll definitely.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
We're about to say about Golden Bachelor. He's going to
coplain about the age of the whole time.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Oh my god, they're too old. Can I get younger
ladies on this? Okay? So then he Jeremy starts laughing.
He does the worm.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah, really well backwards. It's impressive to do the worm.
I have to say, like it kind of.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
You go forward, but not as well like he dropped
into it.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
I really know how to do the worm.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
When I was younger, I can do them, and then
didn't do it for years and did it again as
an adult and smack my face on the ground. I
got you did I didn't.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Do the work over a metal piece of metal sound equipment.
That's okay, we could do it in New York.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
You okay, maybe you should take each of your suitors
try Okay, so then I and then if they win
the day with you, you promised to do the worm at
the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I could wear myself. I'll wear myself out, don't worry.
I also want to say I enjoyed that. Twice he said,
is this where you kill me? Mm hmm, you murder me?
I thought, he said times.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, he had a few good little jokes like I
liked that. Also, when he caught the fish, I felt
like you seemed to know what he was doing. He
like a real man. I was like, I would take
it care of. I know, I know you handled it.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
He also touched the gum wall, which if you've seen,
you have been, if you've been to place seeing that gum,
I think, he added disgusted.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
He added, he added gum to the gum wall.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Maybe he did. Maybe that's what it was. It makes
a huge difference because it is really one of the
most disgusted that it's not worth a picture in a way.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
That I thought was nice. But then then he kept
it moving. How was your night last night? It was okay?
And he's like, okay, good, Like I want to hear
about it, but like and hees, and now you're with me.
Now he still acknowledged it was like I don't want
to sitting bitch about these other dudes finally best for last.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You know, it was a lot of confidence. Actually, it
all displayed a good.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Healthy Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yes, I need a Jeremy. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Feel like a Jeremy. He would be like, she's a
far cracker.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, do I need your you? You just like definitely
need a non industry person. It's like, it's the my
deepest hell believe.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Shaman was not an industry person but kind of wanted Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Okay, so that actually might be worse than being in it, I.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Know, because he was very successful. Yeah okay. So then
so then he goes he's like, you know, they both
said it makes it I feel like you make it
easy to be myself, and then he and then they
said truly, and then again this is where you kill me.
And then he said they go to or Oh so
it's the artist's name is truly the who does like

(57:35):
the blown glass?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Oh that's his joke there, because then he says, you're
saying that's not a real tree. Yeah, and I was like,
that's pretty funny joke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
And then he goes, no, this is actually dope. And
that's where I was like, I can't.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Yeah, yeah, somebody says, because after a show you do.
He would go, that was actually really funny, that was.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Actually really Oh you're as yeah, you're actually funny. I
can't actually dope.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, but someone of that similar or whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, the idea of a jermy who has a smatching
sweatsuit somewhere. So then he goes, this is actually dope.
He goes, you know, this is fun because this is
like a normal day, you know, we could just explore.
And then and she was like, you know, and she
was like, you know why with me? She's like, well,
I always looked for someone who is oh, here we go.

(58:23):
I always look for someone who is as caring as
my mom. And I'm not comparing you to my mom,
but I'm kind of comparing you to my mom because
you're the she's the nicest person I know, to a fault,
you know, and uh, to live. I mean I was
like literally, I was like, huh, I had a nice mom.

(58:48):
I just have a nice but she was a firecracker.
She would talk shit, she gossip. She wasn't the nicest person.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
But also to have a nice enough mom that you
would say that to a person you want to have
sex with that, that that would even come up. It's
so wild. Yeah, dad, like you love your mom. You
really are like even all beyond about that. Weird heard
that much.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
So then she's like, you know, he's like a large
part of my life is I have a Jewish identity.
I don't expect or need you to convert. A relative
of mine was a big rabbi. It's important to me.
It's something. Is that something to be open to And
she was like, no, not really. Else we have a

(59:36):
Shabbat night with her friends in Miami, and he goes,
you'd fit right in. And then she's like, well, I
am Buddhist and we we sell. We go to the
Buddhist temple and you know, it's and it's like they're
like cool. And they were both like it is cool
and they're.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Our kids can be I was like, would be cool? Cool?

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Cool? And U basically culture and family is a big part.
I felt like he's at least number two. With this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
They had such a real conversation and it was exciting
because you never hear anyone like openly talk about Jewish.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yes, they're really not all out to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Anything, but Christians, like I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Never get this through and he goes, and he goes,
he goes having kids. It sounds I would say, this
is the most practical conversation. It actually felt like people
that are not like we're gonna move to la and
become influencers and we're gonna have kids. These are we're
gonna have a family. It felt like two people who
really actually wanted to get married start their life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
If she picked him, that would be that would be
very like impressive to me, really wise.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Like she actually wants to get married and have kids
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
It is the closest to a like real life date
relationship like that I've seen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Me too, you know, because I like because even like everything,
I feel.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Like even the things that came up that were like
more difficult conversations came up naturally, whereas like you know,
like Anna was saying, like a lot of these people
just do trauma dump even if it seems like they're not,
they are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
And it's like very formally of how a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Of these trauma other than being like, you know, he lost.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
That I had two pimples.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Oh my god, I wanted to say I was. I
went to a very bougie a place that I've been
invited every year, I've never gone. It was like, I
know a very wealthy person who had a party and
I've never gone. And I brought my friend Lisa because
I just wanted to see the house. And it was
on Memorial Day and so we were both dressed in
like dunum and we put on a little and we're like, oh, red,

(01:01:49):
white and blue, like so we did that. And this
woman is like rich West Side woman goes, oh, and
we go we dressed for America for and we're like,
it's a Memorial Day. She goes, I didn't know that
PTSD was a thing until I got divorced and I
lost twenty of my rolexes. We're like what. We're like,
what for? So your twenty flexes? She's say she I

(01:02:12):
didn't know it was a thing. She goes, but I
lost twenty of my rolexes. They weren't In short, I'm like,
wait a minute, you're equating getting divorced and getting robbed
in her twenty rolllexes with the soldier's trauma Memorial Day, Like,
uh huh, that was so crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Robbed or she lost them in the divorce.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
She got robbed. It was after she was right. When
she got divorced, she got robbed and she lost twenty rolllexes,
twenty twenty role axes that we're not insured.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
That's on her, but possibly not all of the rolexes. No,
she must saying a number. Then there was not all.
It's not all. She got twenty more. She's got some more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
At Lisa and I were like, like, Lisa's the best,
and Lisa's like a dog, and Lisa works at the humane.
Since that, we were both like, like, what.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
The fuck any rolexes?

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
You said?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
She knows?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
What's your address?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah, okay, I'll be there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
Person.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I'll protect the rest of you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
Just bring them all and sure them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
And then she goes I I, she goes, I look
forward to meet your What does she say? She said?

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
She said.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Family?

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Family.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Okay, okay. So that was so he got a rose.
So now when he got a rose, I'm like, oh,
we're down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
And you knew Devin was getting one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I was too, because I thought she's not going to
save him. I didn't think she was going to cut him,
but I thought she was going to wait till the
game day decision to pick her final three. I was
just like I kind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Of was like going into the date, I was like, Oh,
I don't know if they are going to like if
he's far or notough along yet for her?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
For him, a hometown rose a good husband material.

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
It is this episode again, Yeah, first one on one
date and you go right to hometown is pretty wild's
easy company.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
He's got a nice disposition.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
And said that. She was like, he and I have
the same sense of humor and we just get along.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
With He's affable, He's like, he's easy. He seems easy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
To be around and not having that resentful attitude some
of these guys get when they're like, oh, she hasn't
even gone on one.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
On one with me, Like I just have to eliminate
it is so Poudyu farm better than today.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
He was so mad. I farmed.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
I did the farming better. Do you really earned best farmer?
Devons San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Mullet was so mad. Bullet was so mad and he
was hot. But you know what, Jeremy's a man. How
old is Jeremy?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Jeremy was twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
He feels older. Yeah, he feels like thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Five, Yeah, yeah, forty three.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yes, he's true grown ass man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
He also looks it he looks older.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah, he's got an older look.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
All right, Okay, we're going to take a quick break
and we're going to come back and we're going to
talk about Sam. We're gonna do tweeted the week, all
of it. Oh, bone Zone, Time for the bone Zone.

(01:05:27):
So we're back. Here we go. It's the rose ceremony
and she needs another chat with Sam alone, like she
can't just cut this food.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
But it's almost like to give me so mad. But
it was almost starting to seem like she like Lauren
I was watching with my my wonderful wife, and she
was saying that that it felt like she was enjoying
that she kind of hated him, like she felt like
it kind of turned and she was kind of going
like like like what do you mean selfless? Dumb ass?
Like she felt like she felt like in the hotel

(01:05:58):
room that it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
She wouldn't she like stormed down that in it. I
like it was either Grant or Jonathan. That was like,
have you ever had a woman come looking for you
like that? They're like, well, at least show she's into it,
Like even if she's pissed, like she's engaged it's not
that she doesn't care. She cares. She's fucking pissed. But
like that's the kind where you have like makeup sex,

(01:06:21):
you know what I mean. Like she's she was so horny,
like her hormones were few. She wanted to at least
get to fantasy squeeze. She wanted you so badly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Really, yes that she wanted to get.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
She wanted to at least fuck him once, but he
was so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
He wouldn't let it happen because he's too stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
And he hung himself with his word.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a really unattractive quo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I just walked through this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Stop stop talking.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
If you stop talking, you to get you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Don't say that my friend is hot like you said
about my other friend hot. Like I just shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
You just commend yourself every time. You don't say the
stupid just think it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Tell you're tell your guy friend. Don't tell me, Okay,
So then.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Can I just say my favorite thing was She's like, well,
how do you know him selfless? And he's like here,
either selfless or.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
A piece of real full of shame.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Yes, nailing it, You're really nailing that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah, it's like what you could get away with saying
in a flirty way while like pretty hammered on whiskey
at a bar. Yeah, or you're kind of like leaning
like like Tennessee or something, dude, Yeah, exactly, Like this
is a mess to say that right here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Oh my god, dead sober like eleven am and like a.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Hyatt also in the room by hisself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Yeah, they've isolated him, isolated. So I thought we were
here before. Turns out there was two of these chats.
So she storms in. The guys are doing the crossword,
Jonathan does the thing, give us the looks we all
love Jonathan, just to remind her. Now we're this, She's like,
where Sam. He's getting He's putting on his auburn like
his like auburn suits, sort of purple.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I felt like he was getting dressed to be dumped,
like looked like he was going to his funeral. It was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
So then she goes where Sam. He's like terrified, and
so so then she's like where Sam. They're like, oh shit,
Sam's terrified. Uh, and he goes, I'm sorry. Basically she
goes She's like I don't believe you. And she's like
He's like, She's like, you know it was hard for

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me to fall in love again, but it's the only
way I see it. Love is selfless, it's a sacrifice.
She goes, I don't believe you like feeling. Its words
are not my strong suit. No words can describe. Then
she's like, I need to know that he sees me,
that he understands me. What do you see in me?
And he's like, you know, I could just go on

(01:08:49):
a whole rant about your passion for life. You know
the same characteristics as you. How do I know this
or how do I know that? You know? Here's my story,
your energy soothed from my nervous system. This is the
story you know about ferocious love that I cheers to.

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And I felt like after stripping, I poured into an
emotional love after stripping.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
And then she goes, well, what did you learn about
me that night?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
And he goes, well, you have no idea how much
I appreciate you. I love you, and that means that
you understand me. She's like for wood. Then she it
was just like, she's so fucking pissed. Huh, Grant is it?
He's like, anytime a woman comes in there is not
good She's like, well, you didn't ask what I need,
and she goes, I can't do this. Everything you said

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you didn't hear. You don't know me. I know what
I deserve. You remind me of relationships that the past.
I'm done. I've closed this chapter. I'm done. So then
he starts packing his suits.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
You may have closed that chapter, but you was ready
to open that damn book one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
He goes, that book was on the nightstand.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
If he said even one vaguely salvageable thing, and you
would have been down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
He immediately after he gets dumped, goes, the energy she
brought was all and then he goes, I didn't do anything.
He goes, it's not mine toes, it's not my fault.
I'm ten toes down. Keep the main thing, the main thing.
This is not what love is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
I was like, how do you go from I love you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah, your doll your dolls down?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
It was kind of amazing that we got to see it.
It was into watch, like, wow, this is how a
bad breakup goes. You're saying two opposite things.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Such a good episode. Incredible of like what to show
women being like, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Date this, you don't I'm telling you. I was.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
I I just I was. I could not believe I know.
I was just like, I was like, is this your options?
Is the are these look?

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
I'm not perfect, none of us are perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
All are trash under God's eyes, but like, goddamn, I
was like, there's just no way. Like he basically told you,
it's like that DMX song. He was like, what's up
in here? He's like, you act your girl's a holy
broke kidd a jewice and everybody well he's just like
roasting her.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
And not saying anything good.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
And through the midst of this, she's still like I
just want to give him a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I'm like, what the fuck are you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I was literally watching as a father, going like, how
do I impart to my daughter? You're like not even
like receive this ship, like to just go no, no,
Like you can't leave even the slightest opening for this ship.
Because also, even though like I could go on and
say this, it's do it say the thing like there's

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so much suppose or suggesting. He could talk at lengths
about it, but then none of it, you know. Just
I do think she gave him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Too many chances, but I think she really stood stood
up for herself. Yeah, questioned him in a good way
to like push him to be like no, no, no,
explain yourself, you know, or say it or like tell me,
like you know I I I think after the first time,
after the fucking what do you call it? The radio show,
I would have been like, bye, bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
The fact that he made it past that it's crazy
wild to me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
It was crazy, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
But and then the funny thing is us as a
view and audience could see it the entire time. And
then as soon as she walks out the door for
him to just turn and was like, well, fuck that
bitch anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Immediately, like I was like this after just talking about
how he loved her energy.

Speaker 11 (01:12:50):
That was the one specific he did say about. It's like, well,
it's like when someone is so overtly the stereotype that
you think they aren't like you literally said that, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Doctor Bannana, what do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Oh no, he's an absolute dipshit. I mean when we
are saw it, like just the way he interacted with everyone,
the things he would say, the main thing is the
main thing. Don't really understand what that means. Everything about
him from day one was like this is a fucking idiot. Yeah,
and then for him to be like, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Right, I love your energy. Your energy is dull.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
You're right, he's delusional.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
I mean like even before it this, I can't I
can't count how many times he told Devin man, I
don't talk about you, I don't think about you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
You'll name it even in.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
My mouth, and like he said Devon's name four six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Two times, Such a fool. Like he makes Devin look like,
okay if she hasn't, Devin, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
It's crazy, which is crazy, and it's all really supporting Devan.
It's making him look all the more cool and reasonable.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah, he's calmed down at least in the edit only
because he's the winner.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
Sam's family has come been like he is getting a
bad wow. Yes they are, doctor by trying to defend him.
It's like, yeah, I'm sure he's a nice guy when
he's not being absolutely horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Nice to you. You guse you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Also built this monster. Okay, so question So then so
then he got cut. So then it's the final rose ceremony.
And first up, she gives the rose, so we got
two left. She gives to Devon. How do we feel
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
I feel like it's she's doing a lot of sort
of game stuff that is different from what we're used to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I almost feel like normally we would wait and Devon
will be last.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Okay, but we all knew Devon was going.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
To get Oh yeah, he talks with the confidence of
like they were already Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Actually, I don't see Jeremy could win.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
No, they're not there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
I think if there's anybody she won't sleep with, it's
going to be yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Yes, yeah, it's it's they're they're headed towards like they
could be lifelong friends.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Adorable Jonathan, but they don't have the connection. He's so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I thought their date was.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
I thought their date was like when when she kept
saying when Sam couldn't say, like, oh, what's self I
know this wasn't his date, but I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Was like, oh, you want to know what selfless?

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Like, uh, the person being on this show that's obviously
for her. And he goes up and he's terrified to
go on a helicopter.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
She's like, I got you boo like selfless?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
He was adorable. I feel like they don't naturally have
like den They have an intimate Devon has an intimacy
with her, like for some reason, there's like a disconnect
with she.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I feel like that with Jonathan, and then like Jeremy,
I feel like he's not they're not for far enough along.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Like I don't know, there's just like I like Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I think she needs a little like something about the
person that's bad or something like that they have like
some bad quality. Yeah, she's like, yeah, I can say
it's the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Toxic toxic to her.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Though you can feel it a little bit, like you
can feel that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah. Meanwhile, they and then the final they cut poor
Grant and pet photographer or whatever who does not get
to walk out, and we'll get to one second but
Grant she cuts out and goes, so then Grant goes.
Jen's a great woman. I wasn't good enough. I want
a family. I want a wife, and he's our new bachelor.

(01:16:22):
The announced Why did they announce it already?

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
That is why they announced it already?

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Do you think they're but like normally the Rose like,
why did they wait? I think they were like, don't worry,
don't worry. I guess it was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Gonna leak or something. And maybe there's like it will go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
I mean, I'm excited about it. I think he's.

Speaker 6 (01:16:39):
Hot, sweet, all those races exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Because he's a lot of racist.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
You look, we see it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Yeah, shrieking, we see.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
You're right, You're absolutely right, because Devin is gonna move
has a lot of races to me. So they got
grant I have a black friend. Again, there's gonna be
black face photos every was.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
I married, previously had a plantation, Yes, but that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
What it looks. There's gotta be black face photos of.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
Sure I dressed his Pokemon is every folloween for fourteen years,
not one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
It walks folloween. That's just my outfit. I look good
in it. Okay, So then Spencer does not get to
walk out is it's so funny he edited all time.
So meanwhile she's in there, she's cheersing with Devin and Jonathan,
she's cheersing with Jeremy and uh and uh what's his name?
The first the first guy, the guy from the Army market. Meanwhile,

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they're cutting back and forth between me and he's like, Mama, mom, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
No baby, mom, it was me baby, And he's like,
I wanted to be with someone I love, and she
like ain't no beating.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
You was so lousy and look as a as a
child of a single mother, I appreciate the mother.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Love my mom. Your mom not on TV exactly want
to call her on the plane cry then I have
like cry then my baby also at least two weeks.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
You also know I would never give my dad. Imagine
you're like, well, they made the right choice.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Like a year down the line before my parents found
out I was ever on that TV.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
My mom the billboards, like what is the Bachelor? She
wouldn't know any of all the details will be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
You cannot picture enough preparation to prepare somebody to meet
my dad down his boxers had heart attact cars down
he'd be like spreading in like old man boxers, like
drinking a tab and like just like asking the guy
if he.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Got laid, Like it would just be my mom's so
shy that they would never find My hometown would be
just cameras all over town trying to ye. I just imagine, imagine.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
I imagine Spencer too, like when he got when after
he had to sit there and wait for Jim to
come back, and you know they talked for a minute.
Grant and and Jen and then he was like, all
right by you know you deserved best. Yeah, and then
he stood.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I was like, you're gonna walk me out? She's like nah,
I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I feel like my brother Alaric would be so excited
and ready and waiting to Alaric would be and my
nephew would be jamming for home. He would have some
like nerdy game set up. He'd be like, well, this
is my you know, there's my cube collection.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Do you like you know? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
My god? Would he would be so he would be
so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
That would be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
It would be fun to say that. My mom would
My mom would probably make me.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
My mom gets way excited and so like if I
introduce her to anybody, she like loves them right away,
which is great. Yeah, but then it'd be it'd be
to the point where I'm like, she hain't that damn great.
I'll be started picking out flaws, like well, if you
knew all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
The ship, well, we're gonna go to our we're gonna
go read our reviews and we're going to read our emails.
And then when we come back, I'm going to ask
you who you think the top three are? In order
and then we're gonna do our post of the week.
You guys, thank you so much for our reviews. Right now,
it's just me and kat Money Katie, we're up to

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twenty five hundred and nine. Oh my goodness, right, it's
really okay. There was a lot of Again, here's a nice,
simple one five stars from Ron Ron GC love. It
just says, great podcast. You can do that. Yeah, nice
and simple, doesn't need anything else, doesn't need anything else.
But we got some fun ones that had to other stuff.
But you know what, Ron Ron, great, great review, and

(01:21:15):
you too can leave that review right now. But there
were so many fun reviews this week, and I feel
like last week's episode of the Aaron Foley on Fire
with the Dad and the Cooler really spurred some people.
So we got one five stars from Meg Arterberry. He
loved that cooler. Don't know what's taking me so long,
but I could not wait another week to review after crying,
laughing for forty five minutes straight during he loved that

(01:21:38):
Cooler episode. Aaron Foley cannot be topp true story. She's
so She's so funny. The chemistry between her and Arden
is unreal. Thank you from the bottom of my heart
for this absolute jump of a podcast. Loved the production crew,
Arden and all the guests. Can we just shout out
to Aaron Foley how fucking funny she was. She's so good,

(01:21:59):
She's so funny, and I honestly think there's a chance
she's gonna come to New York gat and I think
Maggie might come. I invited Maggie to complay today, but
it's her birthday yesterday, and so she took herself on
a trip, so she was out of town. But she
loved Jakes and she wanted to come play with Jakeys.
But she wants She's down to play with us.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
She's the best edition. She's the best edition. She's a
great Wookie. She's a great Wookie of the Year. Okay, okay,
here's another one. Five stars. I don't even watch the
show from Judge and and Gung's Best Batch Nation podcast
always makes me laugh out loud in my car or

(01:22:38):
on a walk, and I get weird looks from people
on planes. I love every guest, especially a perfectly symmetrical
pageant Jerry Jack Keith and Aaron Arden's friend Whitney, Rob's
mom Viv. I mean viv is a star. Wish I
could name them all because they tall all totally rock.
I stop watching the actual show about ten season ago,

(01:23:00):
but I never miss an episode of this pod, and
I eagerly wait for it every week. Thank goodness, Arden painstakingly,
might I say, this is me set talking like a psychopath,
writes down everything down, so I never missed the drama.
Shout out to the production team, Hugs to pet Mom,
Kti Money, and I hope that Anna recovers from seeing
her brother the Golden Penis on Jen's season. Love and

(01:23:24):
adore Arden. I've read her book twice. She makes me.
Everyone feel so comfortable and fun. Keep doing the Lord's work.
Cut San Diego break every once in a while. We're
not all bros, and please never stop making this podcast
from at in North San Diego County. I actually love
San Diego. And you know what, it's a crown jewel,
bro Is this a crown jewel of When we need
the bros? How would we get Aaron else?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Are they going to live?

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Where else? Are they gonna live? For a while, they
lived in Nashville, now they lived in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
But I mean it's also like San Diego's big. They're
pretty much in the gas lamp. You can go up
to North County.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
It's fine, legit all so awful, But we love to
We love to agree to agree like we love a
broad Yeah, I go. We love our Brochella and Sandigo
is beautiful and temperate while we're getting like a sweated
out of the bougie garage. Okay, and then I'll just
read one fun email that we got if you, if
you would humor me, this was such a great one.

(01:24:15):
I really love this one. This was from Deborah Bop
and the subject is kt MT tmt Okay, Hi Arden
and wonderful friends. Thank you for the most entertaining podcast.
I look forward to it every episode. Sunday morning, right
after the Olympics Women's gold metal basketball game between the
US and France, which I hope you were able to
watch because it was so exciting. A reporter to interview

(01:24:37):
at NBA WNBA Star about their come from behind victory.
She said, we just keep the main thing, the main thing.
My question for you is this, how does she sound
so incredibly amazing when she says this, yet Sam m
manages to sound like a total asshole. Much love, Debbie,
a fan old enough to be a contestant on The

(01:24:58):
Golden Bachelors. The question is rhetorical. Of course, Samm always
manages to sound like a total asshole. I made shout
out great email, Debbie. Let's go back and do post
of the week. All right, we're back, Katie. Yes, who
do you think going lowest to highest? Top three?

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
In order?

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Who do you think it goes? Jonathan? Okay, so we
have Jeremy, Jonathan, Marcus and and uh so do you
think Marcus self eliminates next week?

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Okay, I think he's gonna get top three. Okay, I
think Devon's gonna win it. And you think Jeremy will
be number two?

Speaker 5 (01:25:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
I I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, So I'm gonna say Marcus, Jeremy, Devin Marcus is
very bottom for top three. I'm saying Devon's gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
So Devon's gonna win, and then this runner up is
gonna be I think.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I think Marcus is gonna self eliminate. I think something's
gonna happen that he's going to be like, this is
too much for me.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
So you think do you think Devin wins and Who's
number two? Jonathan? Okay, all right, I'm going to you
jack keys, who do you think is number Who's third?

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Three two one three two one?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
I think it is going to be second?

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
Runner up is Marcus? Okay, So I think Jeremy's going
home after hometowns Okay, I think I think Marcus will
self eliminate still and it's gonna be between Jonathan and
Devin and Devin wins.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Okay, Okay, well he will he I think Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Said Jeremy's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
The fat that there's two guys that start with Jay
is like, you think Jeremy's gone after hometown.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Jermy's going after hometown. Devon wins. Runner up is Jonathan?
Marcus is the third?

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Did I say Jonathan?

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Ord I say Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
I think James I met Jonathan, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
The fact that there's two.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Guys with the name that started with James for some reason,
it's like really fuck up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Okay, all right, Well, like she's gonna love the data,
the style that Jeremy was, that's the thing. A really
nice fan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
I think he also has like a nice house he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
My mom was questioning her though, yeah, I love favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Yeah, Okay, I think Marcus will self eliminate before there
is a top three. I think so, I guess I'll go. Yeah,
Jeremy's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Be the third second run around.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
I don't no, you know what. Actually, I think it'll go.
Winner will be Devon, very bottom will be Jonathan, and
Jeremy will.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Be rund okay, doctor b B.

Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
Yeah, I think it goes Jonathan number three, Jeremy number two,
Devin number one, and then I think Marcus self eliminated. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I also think Marcus self eliminates, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Think that it's good for him to do right, Like
I really like your I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Think it goes Jonathan number three. I'm gonna say Devin
number two. I think she's gonna like Jeremy's house, yeah
and his family.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
Hope. If she went for Jeremy, I would be so happy.
I would be thrilled. I just have seen this show
too much too. She's not gonna go for who I want.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
I think Jerr. I think she's gonna see Jeremy's house.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
You're looking for, you got the surprise, you got the upset.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
I'm gonna go. I think he's got a really I
think he's got a nice lifestyle. He's a good guy.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
He's from like that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:11):
He's rich, grass is clean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
He's from Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
He's not a rich Long Island.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
He's a rich, rich Connecticut Borough. He's got money. He's
definitely triest he's got. He's got like a Tribeca apartment
like Murray Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Do we think some of these houses that they go
to meet the family and are just Airbnb?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Yeah, you can live, lave love, live lah love.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Okay, all right, here we go. Will you help it?
And we already said you're gonna win two things that
they're gonna win. A sleep crown, which we love.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
I truly love sleep crowns.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
But you what do you like the most about it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
It's the softest thing in the entire world. I don't understand.
I have a body pillow that is like one of
my most needs to get the body.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I had a body pillow. But my bed is so
small that with the cats and the body pillow and
when there are men and it's a lot of the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Body pillow is more important to me than a pillow
for my head. Okay, I'm like, I won't even have
a pillow in my head. I'll just hold a body pill.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
I hold the travel I have the main It's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Everyone in my family is always fighting over it. It's
the dog, the babies wanted, the pets are always and
you see, I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
You please blanket on top of the big one for
me now when she's being a real bitch, and it
calms her right down. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
We have so many now that we've let me tell
you two prizes, two million tweets.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Two two prizes, and they're good prizes. I can't read
to read this book. Okay, you got a sleep crown,
and then you also get the book. You got a
sign copy of Elizabeth of East Hampton, which is so
great and it's uh, our friend. We need her best friend, Audrey.
I'm gonna tell you guys right now, it's the modern retelling.
Elizabeth at Vsthampton is the modern retelling of Jane Austen's

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classic Pride and Prejudice. Mister Darcy heard of it. It
transports you to somewhere in the Hampton's where classes clash,
rumors run wild, and love is a frustrating habit of
popping up where you'd least expect it, so you can
get the book anywhere, and then you get to get
a mug or a T shirt, you get a signed
copy of the book, you get a mugg or T shirt,
and you get a sleep crown.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
I mean, what else is there?

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Literally?

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Not there?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Okay, there were so many good ones it's hard to
narrow it down. Okay, this was a post that just
got DMed to doctor Banana. If you want to participate,
you can DM her as a selling Josey A. You
can do on threads at Selling Hosey. You could do
on Twitter at Anna Josey do hashtag wya atr. Okay,
there is two from this person that I liked dms.
This is from Kim Love's chips. Okay, ready, guys, ok

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The Wicked date is what happens when you list musical
theater as your biggest fear on your bachelor and takes hard.
That's pretty good, larious. Okay, here's another one. If Jesse
Palmer doesn't jump out of a trolley dressed like a
leprechaun promoting a movie musical on my next date, I
want none of it. That's good. Okay, great, here's another

(01:31:10):
one from Laura A Lisiak Marcus was recently blown up
by an explosive Jen's Biggest Fear at Heights producer for
Jenna Marcus's date. Let's not then pop giant loud balloons
and then get into a basket hell by a bloon
and float them into the sky. Okay the watcher at
Telly Tabo, Jen going through the guys. I think Sam's

(01:31:32):
holding back a bit. Girl. He isn't holding back. He's
given you everything he is capable of cut him. Okay, um, okay,
here's another one. This is from Sailor Underscore Jen, Jen,
that's your journey, But why is it me? How do
I fit in? Sam m line? That's pretty good? Okay,

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this one is Cheyenne Constant, a trixy Firecarker. Jen should
just try yelling representative or I want to speak to
a human that really this is hbb at host body,
Sam m is what happens when conservatives banned books? Which

(01:32:20):
actual Okay, this is awesome from Shyanna Constant. Wait, so
Matthew paid to fly to New Zealand to get rejected,
only to have the group fly back to the States.
The Man's in next week. They really played that man's face.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, because he was from Seattle. Ye yes, right,
still by.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Here's from Erica at Erica thirty four viewer. Just like
when they made a Geme hold a spider, they decided
the veteran with PTSD got the firework day crazy. Okay, here,
I'll just do two more. Sarah sam Clark at Sarah Samuelson. One.
The only thing wicked about this date is Jesse's jacket. Okay.

(01:33:05):
This one is from a leslie Berkowitz and hey, leslie
b good to know. Bachelor Nation truly has an introduction
to the platonic Jewish dating experience, comparing his girlfriend to
his mother in a matter of moment. All right, I'll
just do one more. The Watcher at Telly Tebo. Sam,

(01:33:25):
you're waiting for these answers with words? Yeah, Sam, that's
generally how answers were with words. Okay, here's one final one.
This is from Melissa Melissa Underscore Raven eighty five. I
saw the gift box and I immediately thought it was
a reverse princess date and the guide chosen was going
to get pegged. All right, what are your top tail?

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I would go with the first one. Did your fear
is musical theater. Okay, and then that last one okay, Okay,
here you go. I picture like in twenty seasons from
now we can there will be a PEGGA.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Here's our top two Melissa and Melissa Underscore raven eighty five.
I saw the gift box and they immediately thought it
was a reverse Princess d and the guy chosen was
gonna get pegged, which is really good. And then from
kp at Kim Loves Chips, the Wicked date is what
happens when you list musical theater as your biggest fear

(01:34:30):
on your Bachelor and take for pegged or musical theater
biggest fear musical theater. Okay, Jack keyes musical theater, doctor
b got.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
To musical theater.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Musical theater, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
We have a d M or who want to slide
into the d MS.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
It could happen to you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
It could happen to you. You won yourself Elizabeth from
East Tampton and a mug or a T shirt and
a slip crowd kp at Kim loves Chips. The Wicked
date is what happens when you list musical theater is
your biggest fear on your Bachelor intake for WHOA like
you Welcome to the pub. Would you like to be
a part of it, because I will start booking you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
I would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
That'd be great, so great, so much, You're so One last.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Thought about Sam is that what is amazing to have witnessed. Yeah,
is we saw him reach the absolute limit of his
ability to communicate. Yeah, like, I've kind of never seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Kiss, but he was just going like.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Like like like they couldn't get out. It was so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
That's like assaulted her.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Yes, exactly. That was coss amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Do you have any shows or any podcasts or anything
you want to promote.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
I have a podcast called you Know What I Would Do,
which is fun and it's with Joey Greer, and I'm
doing a live show at the end of the month
at the on the thirtieth at the Lyric Period at
seven thirty called The warm Up Guy that I'm directing,
and I wrote that's Joey Greer is the warm up Guy.
Craik Kokowski is also in it, Michael Strassner, John.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Milheuser, great lineup. Joey gre If you guys are not familiar,
is one of your best friends?

Speaker 5 (01:35:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Yeah, yes, one the funniest guy's ever.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
He's so funny, and your friendship is so cute. And
you guys, I feel like talk as much as Laurena
and I talk, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
And you call as much as Joey calls, and Lauren
has to ignore as much as I ignore Joey.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Lauren Lur even without babies, is not a phone person,
that is true.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
That's why we both prefer communications to be in long
blocks of text or voice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Well, but she will also freely text ship that if
it gets hacked.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
I'm like, we both and it's all already hacked. It's
already hacked. It's all all the texts.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Are already out there so freely that we have to
walk into this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Even deleting it. It's not as I say this to
you every time we talk, deleting it's doing nothing. It's
already out there. It doesn't even matter.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
She says shit so freely.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Yeah, we would have got married people.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
We would have to walk into the scene.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
If I'm just just you know, say what your trust
with carols and we all do, we all do.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
All of our text messages would get us immediately canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Jackie, just by our friends, what would you like to promote.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Media in Feud is coming to Chicago next week actually
August twenty first, and it's a free show, so come
check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I want to promote that Jack Keith is coming with
us to New York.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Come into New York fix October sixth city, knew, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
I'm going to bring your men's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yeah, your men, folks.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
I may I may also look into doing some other shows,
so I'll up there, may bring past that blunt to
New York.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Oh, we'll see, we'll see what's popping.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I supposed to be doing monogues at a show in
New York on the six If I stay, maybe I'll
stay to go on the date.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Oh maybe we have to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
I stayed a couple of days after.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
At least go out. I always have a drink after
the show with the person. It goes well, maybe I'll
extend it. And so you're going to I'm gonna do
the worm. I'm gonna wear all warm myself out. Then
it's going to be Jack Keith, it's going to be
Jerry Traynor. I'm gonna say Maggie Lawson and Aaron fun
Then we also have Jordan Carlos. We have Seth Herzog
and I think in the audience we might have Teresa
and Ellen and doctor Banana and my brother Alaric will

(01:37:59):
be in his mouth off. Tickets are at Rosepodcast Dot
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Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
Go get your tickets now because this.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
Can I say in case I don't come back before
to finale, I have I Also, we'll be having a
podcast coming out soon untitled right now, but it'll be
on Patreon with a good friend of mine and Rika
Shan car on a lookout, be on a lookout for that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
That's a nice Actually, I want to give a shout
out to Rica has an incredible podcast on the clown
Parade uh rss feed at iHeart where she has like
four episode true crime parody. I really recommend. It's very funny.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
She's very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Doctor Brenana. We're doing Below Deck Mediterranean on our Patreon.
It's really funn It's with our friend Whitney and Brenda.

Speaker 6 (01:38:48):
Yes, go listen. There was a great episode last night
where a guest could not tell the difference between a
butter knife and a fish knife.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Oh I haven't got there yet that I can't wait.
It's so fun to watch. I'm watching now Guyelle just
broke up with her boyfriend and I'm like ready for
her to go for this irishman.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
Yeah, here's the thing, you're here's the thing. As advice
is from someone who has watched every episode of Below Deck.
It's not gonna last. You leave that boat. That relationship
is over. Don't trying to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
And if you fight below Deck, here's what's fun about it.
You can't fight cleaning toilets like it can't be fake
when you're actually cleaning the toilets, like dealing with lost anchors,
like cleaning the hair out of somebody's stink, like you're
actually you're working the boat.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
I genuinely think i'd be a great stew because I
just love to clean and keep shit together.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Oh I would be a great stew But on the
above deck, I would be the great tablescape artist.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
I could spend eighteen hours in laundry not talk to
a soul.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
You would be great. I would be a good team.
I could be calling provision. I'd be like, Okay, we're
having a toga party. That's disco thing we need we
need silver, a drum line. Yes, I need Okay, I
need to first, but I need them to be eighty
years old. You know, somebody's got an old guy cake.
I mean, I'm all over it, and.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
I'd just be washing towels for three days.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
We would hells okay, KTI money, what would you like
to promote?

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
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About getting a dog? Now is the time?

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
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Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Go check yes, yes, all right, Well what fun we
have a new fun person?

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Hell yeah, tell yeah, hem castle my dating my dating guru.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
He look and if it's not that, then we'll find
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
That's what you are to me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
But that's just yes, not my official title or no,
it's my official title.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
But that's your official title now. But when you'll do something.
It took a little you wouldn't you were not immediately
the hornet. It took a couple of curse. I still
don't know how you got the load of pants he
went on. He went on the bat cruise and he
jumped in the pool in his leather pail.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
That's hot. You know this isn't super related to the pod.
But what I would really love in my life would
be if you and I could get to a place
of our friendship where you could normalize me going with
on your dates and intermittently asking questions because I would
love to just vet in the moment. It would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
We honestly knew though after the first date, and I
kept going with this last one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Well because I told you that one red flag about
the France. Oh yeah, yeah, I cannot let that go.
I was like, get over it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched that happen in
real time. I'm sure I watched it happen.

Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
This is Mike. He will have sort of questions off
the tie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Were questions don't mean anything like you don't have to
take it. I'm not going to necessarily take his advice,
but it will be.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
I do always come around having my own back. I
will see I will do that. I'll sort of push
the limit, but I do get out and once when
I'm out, im out, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Double de Yeah, I'll say the rest of this off Mic, Okay,
here we go, and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Thank you so much. Next taco, bye bye bye.

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Oh yeah, we're gonna get all up in your tonight
feels so good.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
I just got one.

Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
Go to bless you Bringer. Where you accept this roll?
Would you accept this roll? Listen to your word? Who

(01:42:33):
your accept this rolls.

Speaker 6 (01:42:35):
To your world?

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
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