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August 2, 2024 116 mins

Rob brings his mom Viv to join Jess and Evan Ambrose and Arden and the Production Team to break down episode 4 of Jenn's season of the Bachelorette! Clinking glass!  Danny Zuko! Viv "Horny Patrol" Benedict!

- Arden thinks every date should have people dropping from the sky behind the Bachelorette!

- Rob and Evan are the same age!!

- Viv thinks there are a lot of 10’s but Devin only has a 10 personality!

- Evan thinks that Sam M is not into her he is just like "Oh Hell yeah!"

- Jess thinks that Sam N's story arc is the greatest she has ever seen on this show!

All that plus........TWEET OF THE WEEK!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will you Accept This Rose? A production of iHeartRadio.
What a lineup we have today? Better late than never, Honey,
you got to wait for the stars to line to
bring in royalty into the bougie garage. I've added things
to my nails. The adornment. The crustaceans have gone off.
I have a I have a bow in my middle finger.

(00:22):
So is this the middle one? Is my best wad?
I felt like you would like this. I know, I
feel like you guys need to add some more crustaceous.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I just bupage.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh my god, I've engaged. I'm engaged to the Lord. Hello,
and welcome to another episode of Week Except this Rose.
My name is Artory, coming from my bougie garage in
Los Angeles, California. Thank you for patiently waiting. I was
in Charleston filming something really fun, and today is Thursday.
I did I waited. I didn't even read all the
tweets until last night. I didn't know any spoilers. I

(01:01):
can't believe it. I'm liking Devon. I like Devon who
I really didn't like it. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Okay,
I'm going to just go around the world. We have
two pairs of people here today. First of all, there's
a man who's our Bachelor of the Year. Will he fine?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Love?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's what the year twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty
twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. Yes, he's a new baby.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I have a new baby.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
But the world is fluid now, the world that's fluid, and.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
We just figured out like six more years and I'm
eligible for the batch, the Golden gold.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Gb GB side note, I have to say get your
tickets now. Officially, Jerry Traynor has said he will go
to the Bellhouse. If you guys want to go to
New York, We're doing your show at the Bellhouse October six.
I'm like, don't tell me in Brooklyn the most fun venue.
Oh my god, Jerry Trainor's going And I have contact

(01:55):
I've had I've been chatting with they're trying to get
permission from ABC. I've contact with Golden Bachelorette Teresa and Ellen,
who have both been stars, and there's like if they
get permission, allegedly they're coming to Brooklyn. We have we
have Jordan Carlos, we have Seth Herzog Is going to
be Oh Jack Keith is coming. It's going to be

(02:17):
so stinking fun. So just saying this, Okay, Speaking of
the Golden you know him from Supernatural, you know, from
the Boys, showing his tushy, here for it. I've shown
my tishy before. My mom said go for it. I
made that tushy, go.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
For it with it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, speaking of you, Viv, Benedict is here, Viv, No,
this is your second time on the podcast.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes it is. I was here last summer when I
visited out here.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
And Steve Heidner flirted with you.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, so.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I brought. I brought a new gentleman to flirt with you.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
He's good.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
He's a really good flirt. He's he's probably a more
respectful flirt than was he wasn't No, he was so funny.
I think he's I think he's offering you like a
solid shoulder to cry on. There, ladies. Second, Viv, can

(03:16):
I still you for sick? Well? Speaking of okay, this
woman came with us to Brochella. She came to bro
Diego all the way, and she's here with a man
that we freakingly we feel hard for you guys, and
we we normally can't have you on our podcast because
we record on Tuesdays and you have your own podcast.
This just this is a gift justin Evan Ambrose, so

(03:38):
your mom's as for us.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
This worked for us. Oh my godding me, I'm running
and now we have the blessing of being with you.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Are you kidding me? Have you met Rob before? You
need to have him on your pod. Rob is a
star and he has super fans. But even more important,
you have Viv. I mean the VIVI is. I know,
viv you were saying. Okay, we also obviously we have
our production team and later on we're going to read
we had so many nice emails Katie that I'm going

(04:06):
to save it for the end. Okay, I'm going to
save it for the end. But you are fans, fucking
love you, and we got so many comments and emails
and just know that, like I actually wait, I didn't
read them to you yet. That is coming and you're
going to be touched. And doctor Banana will be joining us.
Surely she's doing with the patient, the patience. She's in surgery.

(04:27):
She's in surgery. Now, Viv you were saying about the
Golden Bachelorette cast May I would you feel comfortable stating
your age?

Speaker 5 (04:34):
How do you feel about my goodness? Yes, I was
born in nineteen thirty eight. Wow, I'm going to be
eighty six in September.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
When's your birthday?

Speaker 5 (04:42):
September twenty second, the day after Rob.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Are you both Virgos?

Speaker 5 (04:46):
We are I love a Virgo?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
My mom is a Virgo? Yeah, JJ was a Virgo.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, Oh my god, that's where you and my mom were.
You and you guys, you fell for each other. Did
you know that my mom wanted to date Rob?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Really?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah? She met him in Nashville and she said she
was dating for the first time because my dad had
passed away, and she told me that she didn't like
dating guys her age and that she would date Rock.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
I think I probably would have given my approval she was.
I bet she was.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Now you were wishing that the Golden Bachelor. I agree
with you that so so the person the cast is
only sixty and that feels not fair.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, that, of course at my age, that seems really young. Yeah,
but I have a sixty two year old and a
sixty year old daughter.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Daughters.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Those ages, Yeah, they don't look their ages. They don't
act those ages. Yeah, I think they should be either
late very late sixties into through the mid seventies. I
mean Gary, how old was Teresa?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
She was in her seventies, that's what yeah got and
Gary was seventy two. So I feel like it should
be the same for a lady.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I don't understand unless they're going to go younger, of course,
I mean, ja the youngest they can go.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
You think that, Okay, you think it was that's what
they did or that's what they could get.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
No, I think that's what they did because they.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Had, you know, they had a lot of wonderful options.
I mean amazing, amazing options.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, Joan was going to be just fine, you
know what I mean. So Joan's going to be fine
out your world, like but nobody means out in the world.
She didn't need the show. But like Ellen, who would
you have picked?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Evan?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Who did you have your eye on? My brother loved
Sandra the horny when she was seventy five. She was
seventy five.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
She was the one with the blonde hair.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Who is that?

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
We love the first one that got out of the car.
Who that didn't even stand a chance with a bounce beautiful,
like silver hair. Yeah, yeah, you were taken from you
were really taken from her from the one.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, she was a Laurel commercial.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
Yeah, she looked like a model.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
She was like a model, you like Susan.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh my god, I've had contact with Susan. Susan said
she would have done the show, but she has a
wedding to officiate and upstate New York.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
That weekend was just big yeah, mother, aunts, sister, you
know what I mean, who you want in your life
at all times? Positive vibes, and.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
She she was like, it wasn't when everybody hid the far.
She's like, it was the she was doing everyone's hair.
She'd openly dated women. We love Susan, and she loved
Chris Jenner and styled herself and honestly.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Susan, Susan Jenner is what you.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Call Susan Jenner. That's right. We've got a podcast fan
right here. Isn't she the best?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
We loved she was When we pulled up, she was like,
oh my god, I get to see Katie and Anna.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Everyone was excited that we built this around you today.
And I was like, who do we put vivut now?
Vivian asked how are you enjoying this batchelorrette? Do you
like Jen?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, I think she's gorgeous. I think she's so sweet.
I question whether or not she has a lot of intuition.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yea, after this day, for sure, after this sky diving
jump the ju day.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
But I do she's trying great. I'm looking for depth.
I haven't found it yet. Yeah, but I think she's adorable.
Yes and sweet and ye look and.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I start doctor banana. Now we were saying how height
Nerve is hitting on Viv and that Evan has already
offered her a warm shoulder to lean on. That's going
to respect her.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
She goes right to work. She's on the cameras right now.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
She's on the cameras cameras. Yes, such a doctor. Now, listen,
she's such a doctor. I feel like if I grew
up with a bad dad and she has a bad dad,
and I feel like twenty six year old me would
pick the bad like she. I would be like talking
myself into that not this same. I would have different
tastes than her. But I can see if I didn't
have a little more time in the oven, I would

(08:55):
just repeat the same pattern on television. Evan what do
you say? How are you feeling about John?

Speaker 8 (08:59):
I feel like a comes down to like stage of life.
I think she's in between two stages. I think some
people came on the show and are like, I'm ready
to get married, I'm ready to do this. I think
she's kind of like right, it feels like right before that,
because she's still attracted to like I want to have
like she's even said I want to have fun, I
want to go out, I want to laugh, and like
she's not saying I want kids down.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, she's ready to go clubbing exactly, which she would.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. They've been together since high school, Evan, Evan and
Jess eighteen years so cute and they have a little girl.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
Yeah yeah, that's but somehow like we look the same
age and that's fucked up, Like both of you guys,
like there's something wrong, Like you're lying about the age.
Said something earlier to give a reference to me. How
do we look similar age?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh my god? So happy right now? How much do
you love Evan?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I loved him though I really.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Was alling in love with you.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now you've fallen hard for him, Doctor Banana, we love you.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
She's hard to work.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
She doesn't mess around. And that's what and that's what
we love about the doctor. I didn't know she silently
got a banana tattoo last year without even mentioning it.
Oh my god, she didn't even say she got it.
And it's a great tattoo.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Where's the MD touch?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, where's the exactly you need? Any after?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Maybe just a hashtag for every client, every every patient
you've saved lives.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
You had just a little tick for everything, every life
you've saved. It's so good. Okay, And how are you.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Saying the ones you lost this awful harm?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
No ti?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, Wait, Jess, how did you feel about all the
bros that we had down of Brodie?

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say when you were talking about
the live showing New York, like, you know, I'm down
to come to another life con cause the San Diego.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Everyone listening, if you have not come to a will
you accept this Rose live? So it is another worldly experience.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
And you guys gotta come as a duo.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I had so much fun.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Also, it was just the bros.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Were just like coming out of every orfice jumps.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I didn't these bros.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I didn't know that Logan was of everybody like I
like Logan on the show, but he wasn't somebody that
was like, oh like I really like I like the
one that Rachel didn't pick uh salty hair, Peter, I
didn't know that Logan was going to be like the
one that got away. I didn't know. And he picked
me up. He summed me around and was kind of

(11:41):
subtle about it.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
My most favorerent parties that we were in the green
room with all these bros. We're talking, drinking, We're having
a great time. You know, Arden has everything planned. Everyone
goes out on stage, the announcements are happening, and then
they have one job and it's to come out on
que and can't do it.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I have all that Where are the bros? They just
don't show so the ones.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Then we got one, so then we got one out
and then we wait again for the next one. Like
they're always getting hammered midday, like like the.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Dog sold one pm, still drunk.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
From the night driving wild. Hi, doctor baby, what bros
are in New York? Who can we get? Who's there?
Take it out? Think it out. We'll think it I'll
reach out to anybody, you said, Peter pilot.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm pretty sure Peter in New York, Jane.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
I think getting pilot p would be a very good
moment because I feel like pilot Pete likes to party.
Pilot and yeah, any and it isn't an active.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Pilot though, who do you he's an influencer? Who do
you have a crush on? Viv You know, see, I
knew you were going to ask me something. You have
good intuition.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I I I like Dylan.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm liking Dylan more than I wanted. Yeah, I feel
like Evan just wins.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Do you hear at all? Get?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Did you feel? Did you feel jealous of you?

Speaker 8 (13:09):
I'm married.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I think the problem for me GET is I find
a lot of them just kind of boring. Thank you
and I'm waiting. You know, I get a spark, but
I haven't felt that.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I have potential spark. I have an ember for Jonathan,
the stylist who she played lacrosse with. I have a
little tiny.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Ember an ember for Grant. Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Now, Grant we thought was the f boy, but he
seems to be okay, and he.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
De escalate, de escalates all the dreams. Yes, he always
he laughs, he can laugh at all.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Who ridiculous the production team. Who are you who you may?
I may I use my language? Who are you horny
for the mullet? Yes, mulleteg mullet like a mullet, said
san Diego. Have you guys done us before? Yeah, you
could do a mullet.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Missouri, Missouri in nineteen eighty nine. Okay, but I just
said short on the side. It seemed to keep it
long in the back. But I didn't know it was
a mullet.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah you didn't.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
We could easily do a malt with you right now.
I just take the sides off, and you got a mullet,
you get mittens.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm trying to go back there.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh my god, for sure? Who are you Arnie for?
Doctor B?

Speaker 9 (14:28):
I think?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
So we've got san Diego mullet. She likes Dylan. Who
do you like?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe Jonathan?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's why I like you.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm gonna stick on.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, all right, So here we are top of the
show about Jonathan too. Yeah. We're in Auckland, New Zealand,
and we're a drum circle and Sam the ding dong
is Sam m is so sick of Devin. But I'm
gonna keep the main thing. The main thing this phrase
that he's locked it on, Evan. Have you ever had
a catchphrase like that?

Speaker 8 (14:56):
I know I've always wanted one, you know what I mean.
I when I can just walk in the room and
be like, Bam, here's my thing, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's giving very like you know Instagram, alpha influencer energy,
you know, like, keep the main thing, the main thing
affected by emotions, do not access my trauma. Yeah, it's
it's like we don't have time for that because we're
making money.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah right yeah yeah bro culture yes, Rising and build
yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, okay, great, Okay, So then
we have so they're in Auckland, New Zealand, and Jen
and Jesse meet for them to prove proof of life
that Jesse's actually hosting the show.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
Totally what the greatest gig on the planet, and that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
They shoot and he's like, hey, yes, he's been hosting
Golden Bachelorette.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's where he's been.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yes, I think they're filming that. That's why they weren't
in the Mean Mansion. They were out of Hummingbird Ranch
because they were I think they're doing filming. So there's
is proof of life that is a kid and he
actually stole alive from the kidnappers.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
I thought he's just golfing or something.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, he also has a new baby, but I think.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
It's I thought it was new babyaby.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
But that's been a minute.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
You have a new baby and you're here and I
was there.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So then we have so then he's like, you want
to know why you can't eat on dates?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
It was me?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And then a fun montage of him stuffing his face.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Looking completely different.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
So yeah, completely different. You want a CuPy on it?
You can't. I just didn't. I forgot. Okay, there you go.
I like to I like to be a hostess, and
also I like to host its podcasts.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
And again I have to make a comment. So many nuts,
like one per person is still a decent amount. There's
enough for seventeen episodes. And nuts of all the things too,
there's kind of like it's a crunching element.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
It still blows.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I get the soft nut. I have a sop nut,
I have a and a stopee.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Have you had someone? I think I asked you this
last time.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Mid episode, just yes, Katie, Katie has to deal with
the edo. Tell us about your the snack. The host
edited out you guys can just be like if it's
if it's the nuts, it's really.

Speaker 10 (16:59):
Like I want to lean back or like I mean
sometimes I'll like put their volume down.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
It was.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, the cheese just yes, the cheese happens. Look, we've
lost we've lost soldiers along the way listening some people.
And again somebody got angry at us because we put
our podcast out on Wednesday. It's like, we're not insiders,
we're fans. We don't get the advanced links. We we
watched just like the regular folks. And we also have
blood glucose issues just like everyone else, Just like everyone else.

(17:28):
Were like a soft knot and don't no, they don't eat.
There there are other they're just like one walking instagra.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Learn about it from Jesse. Why they don't eat, Yes.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because because Jesse. Good for him. You know who else?

Speaker 10 (17:40):
There was another ari ate a lot Ari chowed down
on dates. He ate the food you weren't supposed to eat,
like he hat the prop food.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah yeah, oh he did chowed down. Looking back, I mean,
he was the worst. But he has stayed with his lady.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I know they have multiple and they're kind of you
and I and I honestly like I and I and
I hate to say this and put negative energy out,
but this season feels like like I've already seen the
breakup whoever she yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Can you picture any of these guys?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
God, I feel like they're setting I feel like they're
setting up Marcus. Oh, I feel like they're don't you
don't think so?

Speaker 8 (18:23):
I mean, but just like I'm not trying to be
a dick, but just like personality zeros.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
They.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Blessing to him a blessing better help.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Who do you see as the next bachelor?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
See out of this group? Yes, I don't see anybody.
That's the right answer to see his bachelor?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, but we gotta go to hometown.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
There's your girl.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
With your parents, with their families.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Thank you, that's your girl. Okay. So then so so
they're like, okay, So then sam m gets the date
and and uh they go to a building that has
three hundred and sixty degree views and they're sitting there
and they're like, He's like, so you don't consider the
first day. And then a person just like jumps to their.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Dead window falling.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
That was a very alarming person. Every date has a suicide,
doesn't jump into the nobody, nobody, that's just an orange jumpsuit.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
It really looks like a prison break.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Small there's a small st Yeah, was like they didn't
even turn around. I wish people just kept coming. I
wish I was like person was like.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
The cops world.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So they're so they're they're having their date. People are
jumping to their deutch behind them, prison rakes.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
And she asked him something that he didn't get a
chance to answer because the waiter whoever he was, interrupted,
Oh yeah, uh when was the first day?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Oh yeah, when was the first what do you think
the couch? And then he was.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
He didn't really get a chance to answer.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He might be dumb as uhm as like a bag
of rocks.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah on the cast by why I saw the phone.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
I looked at Evident and I go this guy and
I just could feel the energy.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's also to me, somebody says he looks like wompablo.
He does. Yeah, he's just also look, I'm a childhood ginger. Okay,
so I say this is like so a ginger can
say this. He's kind of like a like a cocky
redhead is like a move you know what, I mean
to come in and be like whoa. I also like,

(21:16):
but did you cheat on somebody? I feel like I
don't buy it, like he got cheated on.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't buy it.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
Like everybody when when Spencer had his story or like
what Jack where, he was like, I was cheated on
while I was engaged. I believed in one hundred percent.
I'm like, this man was planning the wedding, everything funny.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
To mention it, I got an email. I got an email.
Excuse me, wait for this now. I don't know if
this is true. I don't know if this is true. Okay, okay,
So this is from a person named Greece subject a
lead high. It just says high, not even to us.
It was like she need she needed to get to
the point exactly high. Where this is watergate? Viv Hi,

(21:57):
I have swumped through the great fun information that is
important to dig intail. A friend of mine said, a
friend of hers used to date Spencer and he cheated
on her.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I know it, I know it.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Not everyone takes their drama to social media, but keep
your eye out for him. I liked him too, but
after hearing that, I'm suspicious. Just something to watch everybody
in the show is secretly garbage, but I love it
from Grace.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Wow, Parking Lot, exactly what do.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
You think of that?

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Viv Wow, that's not surprised?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
No, no, that's not.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
So long and involved in dramatic and.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah no, I don't know if it was that woman,
but it could have been a different.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
One she cheated or surprises.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
He's a pet portrait.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
I'm like, I feel like Sam m I'm just waiting
for you to get fifteen emails in a row.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
Yes, yes, yes, Katie, Katie, you're leaning just I hate
him and he hasn't asked her one question, thank you?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Okay, So there they are because he's.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
So like sexy though you don't ask questions. My questions
are for like people.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
That Jerry trainer last week was he's saying the same
thing over and over again because he usually closes the
deal very quickly and now he has to continue speaking
to her that Jerry Yeah, And I was like, that's
exactly what And how great was Maggie lost?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And as an addish, did you like Maggie? Did you
hear Maggie's episode? She's adorables and she was great. She
just jumped right in.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Great.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
She's a great person, she's going to come back with you.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
I listen every week I missed the episode.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
She didn't know I was going to be on a
few weeks ago. She was like, listen, you didn't tell
me you're going to be on because she just listening.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I love him. No ra shall fall on veav. I mean,
VI is a star. Honestly, when I heard she was
coming town, I was like, we need to get I
invited Heidner. By the way, he wasn't available, but he
sends his law, okay, so here we are. So then,
so it's the tallest building three hundred and sixty degree
views in Auckland, and somebody's just falling down and it's
like and it's like, okay, so do you guys want

(24:02):
to jump off this giant building. She's like, absolutely, yes,
we do. She's like wait, but this is like you,
so you're making decisions for both of us, like yep,
I am because you need it, and she's like, but
what about you didn't even ask me, Like, uh, I'm
doing it for you. It's good for you. And she's
like shaking, but I I just want to say.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
The whole thing.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Felt like this trauma dance. She's trying to get him
to like tend to her. He won't, so she I
felt bad for her because I feel like younger me
has been this where you're like, she likes him so
much and she's so attracted to him that she's trying
to hook in with her wound to get him to
tend to her and like protect her, which he doesn't.

(24:41):
Couldn't give a shit. And then I also almost he
made the joke he was going to push her.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Oh, I know.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
My entire time, I almost wondered if he was going
to push her first, probably would have.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But and then and then he leaned back. I did
the lean by the way, that looks terrifying, terrifying. I
am not a hype gal.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
In I t m S.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
He was like, I need her to learn how to
be comfortable being uncomfortable. And I'm like, if a man
who I barely met told me to be comfortable being.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Uncomfortable, Like, here's here's what you say. Let's not do it,
let's not do it. Let's still take a walk, Let's
go find a bar.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
You don't have to do it or watch me do it.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, and then see how you feel.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
You're ye like, but that's that's the macho part is
like the big The first thing for him was so
everyone knew that he would do it. You mean that
was important to him, Like I'm gonna do it. I
think you should do it too. Yeah, he was thinking
about himself more than her.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
I was disappointed in her though, ultimately yes, because she said, oh,
he took care of me, he watched that. Yes, but
look how long it took. And he didn't have done
that from the very beginning, and she was making excuses
for him, and I was disappointed in that.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Agreed.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
I think she's horny for him.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Thank you, very horny patrol, and she's very hard.

Speaker 10 (26:02):
I should go to fantasy streets with him, and then
that will be over and then she'll be like, oh,
this guy sucks.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, this guy lives on horny Patrol.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, your Bachelor of the Year, this is horny Patrol.
This is our best KAPA Bachelor Cup of Podcast couple. Now,
what do you what did you think of like when
she said he protected her, Evan, how did you feel
about that?

Speaker 8 (26:22):
I think it's like classic grade, a kind of like manipulation,
like when you create bad behavior and then the person
gets used to bad behavior when you do something a
little good. Everyone's like, oh my did you Yeah? How great.
It's like that. It's like when they have a sibling
who's like always bad behavior and then they do one
good thing. Your parents are like, have you seen how
incredible Jim? Yeah, and you're like, what I've gotten my.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Whole life yet A yeah, Yes, that's the energy.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
It's like he's been like this like player, not detentive
at all, and then he does like a tiny little
thing after he created the problem. Yes, and then she's
like he is incredible.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So it's kind of like, yes, that's a pre therapy
arden right there, pre therapy arden.

Speaker 8 (27:02):
But I do like to sympathize for her. When you're
like so horny for someone, yeah, and you're completely into
them and there's like blindingly hot to you, it's I mean,
you'll just forgive anything. It's almost, you know, you'll just
forgive all behavior. Almost it's you have to fight through that.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Fortunately, yes, look at that.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Look at these two, rob How do you feel our couple?
Are they cool?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Really cool? Really cool?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, there are the coolest friends. There are coolest friends.
Ye're the coolest friends of the pod with the horny patrol.
We've got there.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
When we started at the at the comic books. Yeah, yeah,
now we're cool.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Now we're we got cool.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We got cool friends, We have cool friends. Look at
we have similar nails, but minos, which are slightly less cool.
They're pretty fine, they're pretty fun.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Very you need to start getting tattoos.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
We gotta get tattoos.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
People have tattoo Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're right, the coolest.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
I disagree. I think it's going the opposite way. Now.
Now it's like, have you met these people that don't
have tattoos?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
You like the Gen A, the Gen Alpha. This is
their like tattoo free.

Speaker 12 (28:06):
This is good for me because I'm too indecisive to
have ever gotten.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
I think, is that true?

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
You're cool. I'm like going to be looking.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
What your kids think.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
There'll be like a Hunger Games thing where like do
you have any tattoos? And it's like they separate us
on the.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
I have a daughter who's seventeen, and she and I
are going to get matching tattoos behind their ears.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
What's he going to say?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's it's very dedicated.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Hometown.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Now it's going to be a star. It's gonna be
a star.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's nice. That's cute.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's cute.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's cute, that's nice. Come on, Live saved, Live saved,
that nations. Okay, so here we are. So then so
then she's like, okay, I'm gonna step. I'm gonna see
how I feel like I'm not jumping. So then she
was upset. He was leaning back. He's an adrenaline junkie.

(29:08):
He doesn't care. She said, fine, fine, don't do it
until she starts crying. She's to actually be shaking and crying.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
Literally holding on him for dear life, sobbing, and then
he probably like, oh, I might get a bad at it.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I probably should.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And then she's like and then he's like, okay, I'm
gonna jump, and then she and then she got pressured
into jumping, and she's like, I did it. I'm like,
this was really like watching a very toxic relationship and
we're all participate, and they played romantic music like we're
all supposed to act like this is a good thing. Up,
I didn't. I felt protective. Viv Did you want to

(29:42):
give her a hug we're talking.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
To I did in the beginning because I really felt
sorry for her. I also have a severe fear of heights,
saying I know how that feels. But by the end
I wanted to say, girl, he should have treated you
this way, thank you in the very beginning, that's right
and took way too long or was it just bad
at a bad script over now?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
No, No, I don't know. I don't think. Look that
he put the main thing the main thing, that's true,
and that was sim Yeah, you were.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Talking about this, and I think Jess nailed it, which
was when you have an adrenaline filled date, Yes, that
doesn't require a lot of talking. Yes, like spurs horniness.

Speaker 13 (30:22):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
I was saying, like, I think if they would have
put sam M, that.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Was a red flag for me. Yeah, because you give myself.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I didn't give you more.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Party Connecticut party, Yes, keep going. Apologies okay, hash hashtag
live saved, hashtag party okay, hashtag lassaation, hashtag to bless
distress Okay.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
No, I was saying, I think if sam M would
have been put on your typical, you know, going to
a market, low key date, she would have released seen
it would have been Blaringlyvius.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Would have done has nothing to say.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
But they intentionally put him on a date where it
was just adrenaline, where then you got something to talk about.
You're through the room making out, So then he keeps
going through because I think I want to patrol.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (31:15):
That totally makes sense?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
There you go.

Speaker 10 (31:17):
I was literally thinking if he was on Devin's state
on the Mallory Day, he would have been a fucking.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Nightmare for my family. My family was always awesome.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
Like I was just like, I'm so like that would
have been a literal nightmare.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
It would have been like, what's your tradition? He's like,
wake up at six cold cold line, you know, entrepreneurial
leadership conferences. I mean, you got this is all cool
for you guys. How much money you make your income?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Tony Robbins.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Crypto, Yeah, you know, and that.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
I jump out of the plane. Ultimately, Yeah, that was
handled well. And to me, that would have been just
as scared agree to agree? What made that doable?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
And except I think old shrapnel was like, don't worry,
I got you.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, was like, but Marcus wasn't even that comforting. I'm sorry,
but Marcus wasn't even that comforting. Does he have it
in his leg?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Was that the whole thing? It's like, my traumas, I
have shrapnel, my legs.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's always what I think about.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
He wasn't even that comforting Marcus.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Know that what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
I thought Marcus was giving the bare minute they on
that that was the only thing.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
But he was definitely more comforting than Sam. Push out
of the plane.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Devin, I was looking better and better, and he was.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
He's awful, And Devin is the one I'm telling you awful.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's gotta be Jonathan are the only ones that they're
the only ones that Yeah, Devin, that's true.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, because of Sam m. Yes, Devon doesn't look as
bad as he did. Agreed, great, I do not like
Sam m Sam.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
I am Sam's being terrible.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Agree to completely.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Agree with you. Yeah, I'm like Devin more, but only
but I don't And Sam.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
But Sam and and Sam and they're gonna He's I
actually feel like he's devoted to her and he would
be a good husband if she could tolerate him.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
He literally like the the only ones to ask questions.
He's the only one that they have conversation. He has questions,
he has to follow up question and he's self depreciated.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, he don't see that on this show. No, agree
to agree. Okay, so here we go Miss Jesus for Hyrica.
He was just praise be hikum if he is not
our next batchelor spiders from a fear factor of hie.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Every date, he's gonna have to jump from a building.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I did it, mom, I did it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
The will accept.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I did it with the spider's mom. I did it.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
So then they go so then he whispers afterwards, She's like,
you know, I was afraid. So she's like she jumped
and uh. And then they go to the date and
she's like, I was wor She had her giant first
shawl because she loves she loves a doctor Chivago in
the summer, and she was like, I'm worried. That is
just physical intimacy, but I need to know that there's

(34:44):
an emotional connection. Today got the better of me. And
it was a lot for me to tell you that
I was overwhelmed, but you really showed up. You know,
I'm afraid sometimes, but if I show somebody that they're
not going to work at it and they're going to
back off. And he's like, you know, you spoke of
what is the love? What is the crazy love? She

(35:04):
wants ferrocious sounds exact, so toxic, speak of the wild, passionate, ferocious,
intimate love. I want to Yeah, I want to date Army.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
What you're talking about is that in between she's not
quite ready exactly.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
She wants two things I want.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Maybe that's part of what is dragging this season down
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Thank you, viv Okay truth hashtag praty hashtag truths. Then
she's like, you know, I'm afraid. You know, my parents
got divorced. It was I want to I want to
be chosen no matter what. My dad was a bad
example of love. I mean he sounds bad, like he

(35:52):
didn't want to be a dad. She was worried that
she didn't want to have true love, and then he
whispered to her, you was it. You deserve it all.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
You are worthy, You are worthy.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
It sounded like audio erotica, and I felt so.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Toxic. He's so toxic.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
When I almost pushed you off the building today, I
thought saying.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
That, and people are still falling behind them as you
were saying, people are just jumping behind me. He's like,
you know, I was really emotional telling Sam, but he
just he just showed up for me. I'm like, girl,
you're seeing what you want to see. And it's like
all she wants is someone to love her at her
worst days and seeing except her, she's never put her

(36:44):
all into it. Why am I so messed up? And
he's like, everyone has trauma. You know I'm scared too.
You want al ferocious love. I know exactly what you mean.
I thought I was engaged, my forever love, and then
I found out there's another guy, you know, daggon gut
Punk's time to let go. And she's like, wow, he's engaged.

(37:05):
She gets what marriage is all about. God, and she's
like and then she straddles him at the table like
a like not even horner than Hannah.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
On the table? Was this the moment when he was
like you are.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Worthy, you are eating okay?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It was really intimately, it was like watching her really
like a kink of the table. She's a really intimate dances.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Monkey monkey.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
She attached herself to his front her first her like
first round.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like alien.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Bodies are phoning yeah her. She like face wraps him
and then he's like grinding on her at the table
and she's like we're now both physically and emotion there's
the worst fucked up date, viv your horny patrol? Is
there any way to undo this? Is he gonna win? Oh?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I can.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I'm wondering. See, That's what I'm saying about her perception.
I think she lacks in a keen perception. But I
just don't see him. I see him as one of
the finals. But is it going to be a hometown
or go to the horn.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Room to the boom? He's going to fantasy suit.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
But I just something surely is going to show who
he is.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I mean, it started today, but she didn't want to
see it.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
And the other guys, he doesn't bother the other guys
like I would.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Think Devin does.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Devon does big time. But I'm saying the group who
all look alike.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
To me, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I can't keep them all straight. But I think they
don't see through him yet, Yes, and I wonder if
they will.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Good question.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
Yeah, I don't think he's that into her.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Interesting, why do you say that?

Speaker 8 (39:23):
I think he wants to hook up with her? Okay,
but I I don't see any like indication that he's
anything past just horny okay, and that he likes to
hook up and he likes to have the chase and
he like he likes to know that.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
To get all the dms from coming off of the show.
I think if anyone, I feel like he'll dip. Yeah,
I think she'll be still obsessed with him. But I
feel like he's gonna be like he doesn't want.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
To get engaged. She wants to get the women following
the show.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Like his reaction during that date was one step away
from hell. Yeah, like and my dad, my mom and
my trauma, and I just want someone to fight for me.
And he's like, oh, fuck, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (40:00):
I want that for you to star.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. Any final
thoughts on Sam.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Let's go to the other Sam.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Okay, all right, we'll be right back. I don't know
about you, but things a getting so hot in here.
I think I got to take I'll pay your break.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
I used to only listen when Rob was on, when
I knew Rob was going to be on, but then
I got so into it, and I love I love
Katie and Nana and Ronan and so I I just
I never miss it no matter what I'm.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Doing, listen to this more than watch the show, right.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Well, if I miss an episode, I know I'll catch up. Yes,
and so it's this funny duo between my friends Sandy
and I. So we always talked the day after the podcast.
I have to tell her what the podcast says, and
she she watches the episode and so I I I

(41:20):
listen to the podcast. It's so funny and fun. But
she's out there somewhere, but she never misses. And I recorded,
I record, but she doesn't know how to do that,
so she'll sit through hours of commercials and so and
then just complain. So I said, don't watch it.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, upsetting you more than it's not.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay, we just included that in the podcast because it's
the cutest thing that's ever happened.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Shout out Sandy, Well, she was mis mentioned.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm going to figure out how to listen.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
We love her. Okay, we can speed it up now,
but I just I don't want to hold everybody hostage.
I like, we had a lot to say about Sam.
We're having a great time. You guys are all doing great,
really nailing it. Yes you are, okay, So here we
are and there's a there's a group date and and
uh so she's really excited. She's just straddled him. She's

(42:32):
and she says at the end, I'm falling for Sam.
And they go to a field for the group date.
It's a rugby date. There's a ceremonial dance. It's a
the Hawka culture, it's a Maori dance. And Sam n
So they're all playing rugby and Sam and your boy Anna,
I'm gonna let you take the lead on this. She

(42:54):
reminds her of her brothers.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
First, I want to say, they're not even playing real rugby.
It's one who did play rugby.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
D one bitches.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
I don't talk about it because it ruined my body
and it was so brutal.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I d one rugby.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah you see Davis shout out.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I feel so safe with you.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I know, all go to New York. She could protect you.

Speaker 9 (43:25):
It's been a while and my shoulders don't work anymore.
But yeah, they weren't like rucking. They weren't scrubbing. They
were just throwing the ball backwards, which is sure. That's
how you pass and rugby and then running and tackling.
And also all those tackles would be so you can't
tackle that high and rugby. Well, I mean, if you're
watching the Olympics, curly can do anything. Yeah, it's all
like so it's not real rugby. It's like they couldn't

(43:45):
even like because actual rugby is pretty complicated. So I
think like they were like, we can't teach theese.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Like pass backwards and tackle Sam and starts tackling her.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Dude, Sam Bean's entered. She came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yes, I was like, how agree to a grievance?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Did you get this? Lf? The way he was screaming,
let's fucking go, Like, I was like.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
What who are you?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
So basically they won, he wrote he wrote Jen's husband
on it. They won. This fool brings the trophy and
a jersey to the after party and he sits the
trophy on a seat where Marcus it turns out really
tore like his rotator cuff. He wouldn't let him sit down,
remove the trophy or the jersey, and then all the

(44:33):
guys are pissed. And then he immediately pulls Jen aside,
and it's the first time she didn't wear a shrug
or a fur or like, and he pulls her aside
first and is like He's like he's like, you know what, today,
I'm showing her the world who the real boss is.
That's me. I'm all riled up. He's like, you know,

(44:53):
people are like, well, Marcus is like you need to
check yourself.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
And he after the game too, let when he picked
her up and like carried her off.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
That was kind of weird to me too.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
And she's like, because you could tell her energy towards
him was like not feeling it.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
And Jonathan scored the ten points.

Speaker 12 (45:10):
Yeah anything.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Actually, I.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
Fear we may we disagree, not in a way that
we actually like Simon, but he entertains me more than
anyone on this damn show.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
The fact that he started off eyelash curling.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
He's your's your team.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
He goes from eyelash curling into declaring his love after
a freezing to strip and apologizing to the men, to
showing up the next.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Week being like let's fucking go and wearing a leather jacket,
a bad leather jacket. He's like, I'm a bad boy.
Like his arc to me is.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Just an that's pretty great, playing a sponzi.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Like he's in Greece. He's like, yeah, summer, it.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Wasn't even one of the very first group day where
they're walking through the town where he's like he couldn't
do that, he could.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
I'm obsessed with him, and honestly, I'm like, all these
guys need to sit down and stop being so annoyed.
I'm like, you guys are so bothered by everything. Yeah,
just let them in with his ridiculous he was he
embarrassed himself.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So badly last week. Let him just be a tool.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
Issue with this at all. Personally, I'm like, this guy,
this guy is the walking example of hugged too much,
loved too much? You know what I mean? Like we
don't you know they talk about like when when you
grew up in it, you weren't loved enough, and then
you like overlove your kids.

Speaker 9 (46:37):
It's a thing in Persian culture. They love the sun
so much. They say he has a golden penis. No,
that's why I said, day one off, I said, send
this full home. He's gonna be chaos, right, my.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
So I love I love the idea that like he's
going into the real world and he's kind of realizing
that all this stuff his mom told him is not true.
But everyone is just going to open up the door
for you. He's like, I'm gonna try some new characters,
and so he's trying to episode. You know, so today
it's like, Yo, what's up me and Tom Hard? You're
gonna go bike riding a big deal. You want to
hop on the back. You know, he's got this whole thing,

(47:11):
you know.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
God, Yeah, yeah he comes. He's a bad bitch where
he's gonna be a bad Yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:17):
He kind of slipped, and I think it was like,
I'm a boss energy and he's like boss bitch energy
and he's that's not.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
The right hashtag called himself.

Speaker 7 (47:23):
He said bit bad bitch and hot energy, and I'm like, honestly,
I'm still here for it.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Just pulling up and the Hell's Angels being like, what
a bunch of bad.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Bitches he's lost.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
He's like, it's giving a biker.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
He's like, and he's like, you know, you know what
today made him? Everyone think I wanted to show everyone
a different side of me. This was the best group
day I suppose where you had You're allergic to Darry

(48:11):
and then the second one where you're like something music,
I won't ask. This was the best group of your life.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
This is a minimal bounce bag is positive energy, you
know what I mean? The best.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
He's like, you like the jersey and said, he said,
Sam's wife, I'm key on manifestation. You know, you know
as someone that you're probably gonna marry. I didn't you
need to know that I'm key on manifestation. I am
on that boss b I am on that boss bitch energy.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
He surprised. Even the other man, Oh my god, this
guy called.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Were very confused.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, you were crying, like literally the guy's not laughing.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
That's my thing is like all the guys took it seriously.
They're like, hey, man, you really need to chill. If
I was there, I would be on the floor. Are
you playing into it? Be like you right, we are back.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
He'd like yeah, oh my god. It was so so.
Then Jonathan pulls her aside our guy, our boyfriend. He
plays lacrosse, and she was cute. She was sort of
ship talking. She's like, and then turns out she's really good.
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
That was a cute.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
That was cute, and she seemed to have a good
time with him. They kissed and he was like, how
is your day? Like he feels kind of boyfriendy like
he checks in, he's a good I like.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
You and be number two to what's his name, Sam.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Devin Jonathan would be a good bachelor.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, you know what, he was probably interesting if we
get to know him at point.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
So then he was like, you want to do some drills?
Like he was sort of flirty and sweet. Sounds like
a nice guy. Because he was also a heavy kid,
which I like. I like that he's a late bloomer.
So then so then Grant is like I like that today.
I like that energy. I want to fight for my woman.
You liked this.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I just love Grant. I like him, but mostly not
even their interactions.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
I just like that Grant always is like, all right, guys,
let's take a chill pill. And he's just like Samon
proud of you today when he was like, Devin, you're amazing.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You're so vulnerable.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
But like and then as soon as they react, she
kind of just backs off.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I feel like he doesn't talk about them behind their back.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
He seems like a nice good guy. Yes, and he's
very tall.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
John.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh, that's true, Jonathan, she says. Jonathan says, you know,
I've never been like he. She felt like that he
was listening to her, you know what I mean, Like
they were talking and they just was like he was
just never like just I don't know, he just had
like a good a good vibe. So then oh so

(51:04):
so then Jonathan stands up to sam Ann and he's like, look,
you know you it was really rude that you didn't
let Marcus sit.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Down, especially with all that shrapnel. Yeah, yeah, so rude.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
And she's like it's like he's like and he's like, what,
I'm just here for Jenny's like and then I thought
he was so calm. He's like, Jen has nothing to
do with this, Like Jen wasn't in the room. This
is about how you're treating the other guys. This isn't
about Jen. This is just being a nice person and
letting somebody sit down. He's like, I'm not here for friends.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
He was imitating Devon. Yes, he saw Devin doing He's like,
I'm gonna beat.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
That, and sam am he kept saying like I think
he said the phrase I'm gonna put the main thing
the main thing. Later on he actually said that.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
He's not cause playing yeah, very interesting, he's cause playing
them cause playing fun.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yes, it's all going together.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
So then Marcus. She pulls Marcus aside and she's like,
I saw that you got hurt. Do you want to
tell me about it? He's like nope, I'm good. It's like,
well you can. He's like, she's like, well what happened.
He's like that, it's like okay, well, like alright, I
fully told my like tore my shoulder, like my rotator

(52:16):
cop and it's like okay, well, you know. And then
and then he got like, you know, I just shows
that I have so much stuff pushed down like that
I can tell her. I feel bad for the guy,
you know, like I'm sure he's seen some terrible things
and like and it feels like and I feel badly
for him that, you know, I that he doesn't have

(52:36):
anybody to talk. He's a nice guy and he and
I hope for him that he can find someone to
talk to, you know, Katie. Yeah, I was gonna say.

Speaker 10 (52:44):
At first, I was like, dude, open up. And then
when he was like, oh, you know, for years I
could not show weakness, and so he's like it's ingrained
in me to not show weakness and not and I
was like, oh this, I felt terrible too. I was
damn this guy needs like he he needs therapy.

Speaker 12 (53:00):
Yea, yeah it does.

Speaker 9 (53:02):
I mean it was just such like a commentary on
like the military industrial complex.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, poor man, Yes, but don't really think about it.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, if you think about I honestly, I feel like
guys in general, particularly straight guys, and then you add
into like military and things like they're not brought up
being to talk about things, and so you think you
have to talk like keep it all down by yourself.
And then I'm sure there's some really really heavy things
and like that. It's not a culture where it's like

(53:31):
like who do you tell?

Speaker 9 (53:32):
I mean, also, I'm sure he could get therapy for free,
because the military will pay for everything. Yeah, so it's like,
come on, man, I actually know I on The Bachelor,
the Bachelor before going to therapy.

Speaker 8 (53:45):
That's exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
That's a really good fun but you'd rather go on
the Bachelor. So then, hey, guys, it's tragedysh trash day,
So don't worry about it. Look, we're just we're real.
That's a real Potel was a fan.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
He looked over here.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I could tell he's he was a fanv okay. So
then so then he was like wrecking my shoulder. Was embarrassed.
He was embarrassed. He didn't want to tell her because
I think it made him look weak and I don't
want anyone to feel bad for me, but I don't
have to be strong. She's like, I can help care
for you, and he's like, I've always been alone. I

(54:24):
feel for him. They might be setting him up to
be the batch.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Oh you think does he seem too damaged handle? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I feel like, yeah, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
No, I'm just gonna say.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
First I thought maybe he was putting it, not putting
it on, but sort of highlighting it to get attention.
But then I was like, no, it seems very real.
Yeah yeah, And if that's the case, then yeah, maybe
you need some help.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
I feel like he's already there's already so much emotion
coming up in just a few moments with her about
how he can't open up, and then when she tried
to comfort him, he was like, gonna need some room,
and she just wanted to be there for like a
shoulder injury. With him, I'm like, I feel like before
you're trying to balance thirty women's emotions that you probably.

Speaker 8 (55:13):
She gots it, you know how every every contestant. Contestant
has the same line. They're like, you know, it's really
hard for me to open up. He's like, you know,
I don't talk to anybody. Yeah, you shouldn't either, I
shouldn't talk about it.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
On his first day, he's like, hey, I'm gonna need
some space.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I know.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Me I nominate you guys are gonna be I actually
have a least favorite contestant. And it's not Sam M.
It's not sam N. It's it is Thomas. Thomas disappointment
I was. I was so excited for Thomas ye first episode.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It was like, oh my god, me too.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
He was cuties. He talked about boss bitch energy. He
is such a little bit. He never talks to Jen.
He's always just getting into like the low level peon fight.
He just gets lost in the scrum to get like airtime.
He's upset by sam N. Is not a threat, so
you're gonna go pull Sam aside, Like what are you

(56:18):
talking about? He's like the only Asian gentleman that they
brought on to like be. I like on Jen's season,
like he seemed handsome, he seemed cool, like like like
I just was like, oh my god, he's just like
a cat.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Such a disappointment. I feel like all he's doing is
he became like sam M's personal assistance for him. Yeah,
sam Im like doesn't remember him. And there was an
episode during the episode.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Where about him, but he's moved on.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
There was an episode where the first time that Thomas
pulled Devin and did the whole confrontation.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
There was a moment where sam what.

Speaker 7 (56:59):
Was it first episode or second second worst thank you,
where all of a sudden you see sam M kind
of tap Spencer on the shoulder and he go, Spencer, no, no,
you hold up. Let Thomas go and talk to her.
And I'm like, Sam hem is letting Thomas do his
dirty work. Yeah, Thomas is the one that gets riled up,
but assisted for a reason.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
My soul like guston and.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Bad. And then his exit line yellow, yellow is a
good color on you.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
It was kind of iconic.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
It was incredible, Salmon, but.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
It was incredible.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Yeah, the clinking of the glass when you guys remember
that he's like Sam Wild that's like a ring he.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Had like a little scotch was sipping.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Like he's like a ring on any ding. Yeah, I
think the top he.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Was boy, yeah, boy, get over here. Yeah, Thomas, Yeah
it happened. Watched like three times.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Yeah, and somewhere else in the room too.

Speaker 13 (58:12):
The guys kissed, Wow, do you remember that?

Speaker 11 (58:19):
Man?

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Yeah, I do, now I do. It didn't but yeah,
you're exactly right.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
So I gotta I gotta beef with you.

Speaker 8 (58:26):
Man. It felt like it felt like if the personal
assistant had worked for the CEO and the personal assistant
had to fire the other partner in the company and
he's going over, sorry, I'm gonna hate to do this,
and he's like, who are you? You have the assistant
my partner, and he's like, we're gonna have to let you.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Felt like, also, yellow looks good on you, so good.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
It was such a good way to get the power
back because he got pulled aside. He dealt with him
and in his Danny like like summer love and like
grease lightning jacket pulled out saying like a puff of smoke,
like yellow is a great color on you.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
The only thing that would have made it better is
if you just like lit up a cigarette, so Jen,
you know, like that would have been.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Amazing taken up smoke.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
But yeah, this season is.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Not obviously like a hot like a top tier season.
But boys, it fun to break down. It really is
like roll up your sleeves and get your hands in
the play like this is there's a.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Lot to play well and a lot more is gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Thank you man. Did you all like Thomas at first?

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Episode one idea.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
It was written for him too.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
And he's such a torp, he's such as he's a drip,
he's a drift kind of So then.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Clip that, please clip that?

Speaker 8 (01:00:02):
Just a kind of a door. Incredible. Nothing would make
me like more excited to see a clip of that.
Someone asked you, what do you think about Thomas send
It's kind of a door that would crush me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
What do you think about this podcast? Okay? Getting hotter,
getting hotter summers not not hot Okay. So in the meanwhile,
sam N said, oh my inner dog came out tonight.
I will kiss John my inner dog. I will kiss

(01:00:51):
Jada Miser. He's like, you know what, this is what
I want to take our relationship and set it forth
into the next level. And that is introducing into me.

(01:01:15):
I can't that's a dark.

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
That's a dark's introducing into You're gonna be number sixteen
to get a kiss my guy after.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
A trouble failed attempt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
To so then somebody said somebody said he needs a spanking.
Who said that about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, one of the guys.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
I think it was Grant And you're like, oh, okay, daddy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
So then so he goes, Jen, can I kiss you?
And we hear this never good. I think a first
kiss really means a lot. I know you don't you
kissed everyone and everyone everyone. The first kiss really means

(01:02:07):
a lot. I admire how open you are and how brave.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Howler monkey all over Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
With you, I just can't see us getting there. Can
I walk you out? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I mean boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah yeah, And then he says, in his leather jacket
and his suv driving off, I did a lot of
bold things. I wore a denim jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, I know that was legendary. I don't even know
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
And also like a jean jacket would be so to
each other.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Were watching.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
A lot of bold things.

Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
Cause play is going so far that he doesn't even
know that it's a leather jacket. He's like, already onto denim.
He's like, my next iteration is jacket jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
We need Hay and it came to be in a season.
I like dual bachelors. They could be like Gabby and
Rachel called on a boat on the COVID cruise ship.
My god, that would be incredible, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
We've lost them both on the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I did a lotable things.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
She there was somebody else, maybe that's still there. They
do kiss everybody, I realized, sure, but there was someone
she didn't kiss who I think is still there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Yeah, yeah, there are something around. There's been a few
people looking around that I feel like, we don't mean that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
She had one on one conversation with Yea Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
They kiss in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Was was was it Austin?

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
I can't remember because they hugged really big, but they
didn't Dylan.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I care Dylan her kissed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I think I'm just saying that she kiss as she.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Kiss she kiss tonight she did she Yeah, that was
a big face stuck.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Yeah, yep, there was a big face.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
So then so then the group date. Roase goes to
Marcus and he's like and he was really moved and
he shut down. He didn't smile. He was liked yeah,
and he was like, that makes me feel safe, So
feel overwhelmed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I'm moving backwards. He was like behind the couch, like
into the shadows.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
He was like he literally like folded in on himself
like a couch ate him. He had found the Middle
Earth and was like Snegele like forging rings just like
does he just like fully folded in on himself like
an accordion. Any final things on the group date before
we take a break, Yeah, ri I p s Icon.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
He was like he was like the like in his
mind he was a vigilante.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
He walked into like the bad guys layer and the
guy just cut his head off, like you know what
I mean, and it's just like oh, and then the
story is over, Like he's like I'm gonna and he
walks right up to her and she's going to walk
you out. And it was the fastest hero arc of
all time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It didn't even hurt him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
It didn't even hurt her to do it, Like she
couldn't get him out fast.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
It was literally made her.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Wait outside until the left.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
And then the fact that she was kind of moved
but she really was, the fact that he came up
there when she was like two minutes with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Tom.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think that that sealed it for her.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
It was a good hero's arc for Simon.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Yeah, he's had a good episode.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Did you feel that way though? We went after the
suv pulls out and she has to wait outside. If
she's like contemplating it, she's really not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
She couldn't give.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
If she had a phone, she would have been on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Can I go why the guys were so threatened by
him because he clearly was not a threat. Yeah, it's
just like a guy who was acting a fool. It's
like he's so clearly not going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Thomas is giving big bitch energy. Yes, Katie. Any final
thoughts on the group date before we had him.

Speaker 10 (01:06:11):
To break No, I mean it was just entertaining fun,
but I agree they should have been laughing at him,
and they took it so seriously like they thought he
had a chance.

Speaker 12 (01:06:19):
Have you met this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
We're all right, we're gonna take a break and we'll
be right back. I need a sexual time out. And
we're back and we're on a date with Devin that
went really well. He was I dare I say it

(01:06:44):
really present and lovely and like, so they go and
they are there's a Maori welcoming dance and they and
they are and they're doing Uh. She wants to share
that she's Vietnamese and Buddhist. Very cool to hear, like
that we have a Buddhist. He's nervous. So they're going

(01:07:10):
to get to learn about the married culture. And he's like,
I'm nervous because I like you a lot. Really sweet,
and so they do a welcome celebration and they're going
to learn more about New Zealand. But then the gentleman
who was leading it was so lovely. It was such
a great speech. It felt very authentic. It felt it
didn't feel rehearsed and felt just spoken from the heart.

(01:07:31):
It's so rare that we have that on this show.
But he was like, you know what, we are different,
but we're the same. But like what makes us different
is also what brings us together.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
So just be who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
And so Devin was really present and listening and respectful
and like, thank you for sharing all this, and you know, all.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Right, we get to find out more about his background too. Yeah,
I don't think I knew his parents were from Mexico.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Yeah, his dad was from Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
And then when he called his mom, the mountain.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Oh my god, that was really.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
I'm waiting for more physical chemistry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Patrol is dialed in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
But he is somebody she could feel about as a
really good friend. But I'm waiting for a little bit more.
I feel you're But I agree with Katie. I in
the end of somebody. A friend of mine said, I
think he's gonna be the one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
So then so then we have so then so then
so then he's like my dad was from Mexico, you know,
And then I I didn't really find my real home.
We lived all over. I didn't really find my home
until Houston. That my mountain is the mountain in my
mind is my mother. There's a protective element. She meant

(01:08:57):
a lot to me. So then so then had a
date afterwards and they're talking just like that was a
beautiful experience with like this Mallori group and here and
hearing about you. And she said, my parents immigrated from Vietnam.
We still go with Buddhists, we go to temple on
Lunar New Year, but my parents split. And he's like

(01:09:17):
me too. All I want is kids. I want a family.
I want a happy, healthy family. He wants to be
a dad. He's like I'm a I'm not afraid to
say it, I'm falling for you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
That was a cool little that conversation you're talking about
is a coole aside was like just a Mallori couple.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
It was like the YouTube the two of you, the
Mallori version of the two of you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Like them aside, right, because that that Mallory couple was
like you could tell they were like down. They were
just like a really yeah, you know, grounded couple.

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
Yeah, the whole group, the whole time with the Mallori people,
like you were saying, it was like everything was really
it was really special.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
And it felt very real.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Yeah, veryrilliant.

Speaker 11 (01:09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
Normally are a little bit like, okay when they have
these episodes, you know, dates where they have like a
couple coming in and talking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, all right, and then they set him up and
then they're like, now you're going to eat enchiladas off
each other's tour, so we're gonna pay. So then so
then we found out he's like, it was a surreal day.
My mom has been my mountain, and I grew up

(01:10:22):
and I was tough. I was hard on her. I
had issues with dad in my school, so they his
mom got pregnant when she was in high school. It
was a casual fling and his dad was around, but
it was a weird dynamic. They moved a lot, there's
a lot of instability, and his mom had two jobs
and went back to college, and he didn't understand. He
idolized his dad. He wanted to live with his dad,

(01:10:42):
but his mom's an incredible woman, and his dad didn't
want to be a father or a husband for that
was hers. So they both had dads that were kind
of in and out.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Yeah, a lot in common.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
And I felt like his question was a really well
presed question when he said, is your relationship with your
father present right now? Like do you want that to be? Which?
And she said, I have one to two good memories
with him, but then he's stopped being present. I thought
that was a gentle way to ask it. She he
didn't want to be a dad, and so eventually she
just got sick of it. It felt too bad, so

(01:11:12):
she cut off contact with him. And she's invested in
guys that have not invested in her another nice way
of phrasing it. And she wants people who will care
about her and will stay in her life. And she
says that it makes it possible for her to open
up and he feels the same way. And then he said,
the way you open up to me, I'm falling for

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you and I'm not afraid to say it. You're an
amazing woman. I want to celebrate you. She's never felt
appreciated like this, like how Devin makes her feel, and
she said he could be my future fiance. Then they
bring out an opera singer, which was super awkward, and
then they kiss.

Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
What was that art?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
I heard of it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
All right, everything is open for discussion, Doctor Burnetta will
start with you.

Speaker 9 (01:12:08):
I don't think you should anchor your whole relationship over
the fact that your dad sucked. Okay, but okay, but
Devin's killing it, dude, Devin's killing killing.

Speaker 11 (01:12:20):
It and he's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, and he's like, Katie, you get to go next
because I know that he's your boy.

Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
No, I mean, I really think he has a chance.
I thought he was really good on the date. I
also thought he was like he really embraced the date because.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I feel like a lot of those guys would have
been insensitive. Yeah, taking it seastly.

Speaker 10 (01:12:36):
And I also really love how much they like show
like showcase the Maori culture.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 12 (01:12:42):
Yeah, in this whole episode, but like.

Speaker 10 (01:12:45):
They they have real conversations and they seem to like
genuinely talk and like each other. And I do agree,
like the physical chemistry is like a little dimmer, I
guess I'll put it.

Speaker 12 (01:12:57):
But I mean I think he's top three.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
I really I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Now, Okay, Benedict Faction, tell us how you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
My one my one weird thing about this date. It
was a great date and he did a great job,
very real. My opinion of him went up after this date.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
But they had that big table of food and everybody's
kind of left. It was just them alone with the
big table of food.

Speaker 8 (01:13:21):
That was what was that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
What was that part of it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
And now is the part of the Maori ceremony where
you gorgeous, we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
See you in an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Yeah, but he did great, and uh, you know I
do have those dates.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Remember that date that was like Kenny and Maury where
it was like super hot and in Mexico. I feel
like Lance Bass was there and like they put food
all over Mari on the table was really hot. There
was like neat. Yeah, and she got eaten. They made
her human talco and then he had eat off of

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her because because Lance was there and he's done our
pot and he said it like stank, Like yeah, okay, Viv,
what did you think of the date?

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Well, I agree with what everybody said. I'm still waiting
for you know, you can be truly good friends. Yeah,
And I love it when. I love when my sons
have a really good friend who there's no romance or
just really good friends. That's the level I see them
her anyway right now, because I think she does like

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hot guys too, and that's not exactly what he is.
But I think he'd be a good husband to her.
Remember though she said something like I was a little
surprised or that took me by surprise talking about having
children and all of that. She did make that comment,
but she liked it.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
I'm I want to see more of him. Did he
make himself the villain in the beginning to get a
lot of attention? I never know why? Some probably probably,
And maybe he's a better guy than that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Okay, Evan, you're you want to buddy.

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
He made me laugh so hard. She does like hot guys,
and I feel I feel exactly what you're saying. There's
a level of like like there are some absolute tens
in the crew, and she loves a good ten and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
And it's like it's she's warring. She's like, I love
a ten, but I also but that Devon's ten personality.
So it's like I don't know where to look a
little bit.

Speaker 12 (01:15:31):
Yeah, And I think this goes back to you saying
where she's in between.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
Yes, yes, yeah, yes, which it's brilliant. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:15:39):
I think like in a way she wants she wants Sam.
She just wants to fuck.

Speaker 8 (01:15:43):
Yeah, she wants Sam with Devin's personality, I guess.

Speaker 12 (01:15:45):
But I think she should choose someone like Devon.

Speaker 14 (01:15:48):
Obviously she's in between fucking Mary, Mary Keil Miquel.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Okay, I think you should get all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Kill some rid of like no general.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Jonathan.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
I like him, He's fine, but I just I don't
know I Devn. I think Devon on a personal level.
Sorry Devin bothers me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
But I he kind of He's just a lot. But
I do totally get that he is.

Speaker 7 (01:16:19):
The one who has like the biggest best personality. He
is the only one asking questions, So I think I'd
be drawn to him too, because I'd be like, oh
my god, we can actually take conversation laugh together. And
he does seem super confident and fun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
The biggest mouth, like I worry about her face.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
A large mouth. But I the thing I do like
about Devon is that I do think he's sincere. He's
the guy who really likes her.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
I finally came out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Yes, he wanted followers, he felt thirsty.

Speaker 12 (01:16:55):
He seems like he likes her, not just that he
wants to win.

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
Yes, yes, yes, And I feel like, but he's also
like the episodes leading up to this, where he was
just kind of doing like big obnoxious stuff, I feel
like he's just kinda he's just kind of one of
those guys, like he's just the loudest guy in the
room and.

Speaker 12 (01:17:10):
He is insecure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I also feel like he came in and wanted to
be like I'm going to be the villain, like I'm
going to get airtime, and then I think he's like,
oh wait, I actually like this girl.

Speaker 12 (01:17:18):
I don't know if he wanted to be the villain again.
I think he just felt threatened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Okay, I think he got insecure.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Oh we didn't talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
When they were on the Rugby date, Sam and Devin
are alone together in the hotel room and the producers
are like, so, your contract says you have to spend thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Minutes looking your mouth.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
Name?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Is that in your mouth?

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
What you deal with me? And he's like, I don't know?

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
And Sam's like, I don't give a fuck, man, why
did you just say what you deal with me?

Speaker 8 (01:17:51):
I care about so little that I I think about
you all day because about how much I don't care
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I think about you all day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
What you deal with me? I don't care what you
deal with me? Is that was answer that question? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:18:12):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
It was carrier. That was something they should have cut out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah, No, I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:18):
Also, I want to say, when when at the beginning
of the episode, when Sam gets that date and they
all go to that Marriott.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
I don't know where they were.

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
Marriott, I don't know, but they're like there and and
Devin is so pissed. He's just walking around with his
hands in his pocket, like this fucking view.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
Yeah, the view is great.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Huh oh, these couches are.

Speaker 8 (01:18:37):
No, he's not.

Speaker 9 (01:18:37):
He's just walking around being so angry that sam n
got the view for em got the date, and I
was like, this is Devon is so he cannot control
his emotions no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
He might be the most authentic person, I genuinely true
believe him.

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
So I do like that as much as I'm like
what I would get him? Know, but I think he's
a handsome, funny like to a party.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Sure he's going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, I'm going to try to get him on our podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Yes, I am not going to sit here and say, dude,
I loved you from the beginning. Yes, it's gonna be
like we never said anything negative, such an honor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Oh my god, ten ten season ten.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
You're too good for her, like we do what everything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Every Oh my god, we've always been huge always day one,
day one, and you're like, iy okay.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
So then when Nick was on and I do an
imitation and Nick and under the table like text, I
don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I don't think I had to call off the imitation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Yeah, we decided not to do it. Do you want
to do it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
I'm like, can I hear?

Speaker 13 (01:19:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
It's like it's like weird because it's like you guys,
it's like just put these pants on it to fit
like really well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
But I was like, I was like, sure, like what
are you doing.

Speaker 8 (01:19:59):
Like it's it's coming out, just like it's leaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yeah, yeah, he didn't really do we do it? He's like, no,
he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
He doesn't, like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Yeah, okay, So then all right, so then they got
they got he wants to win, so they got a kid.
The kiss was okay, all right, So we're gonna take
a quick break and we're gonna come back. We'll talk
about the Man from the Past, we'll make our predictions,
and we'll do it to the week.

Speaker 11 (01:20:34):
Oh bone Zone.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Time for the Bone Zone, and we're back the Man
from the Past. Four cameras. The only time we've seen
it was when Ari was in that Airbnb breaking up
with Parking Buck Parking, back when it was when it
was what's her name? Who just said the baby with

(01:20:59):
Thomas who is the best Becca and then the woman
who won that Lauren and Becca and the circling the
airbnblico like a helicopter, and they had numerous cameras.

Speaker 9 (01:21:12):
So I was like a budget baby, We're seeing we're
seeing some tax breaks and budget.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Like, let's be so we don't know what happened. He
just got himself on a plane in fluenced.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Yeah, as if and also like his own dime.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, sixty thousand dollars, and he fucked over two of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
His friend's weddings and they'd already paid for his plates
and so so they're like they're just friends. So they're
like five hundred dollars in on him and he's like,
I'm not coming. And then like so two weddings and
he's supposed to go to in like Columbia, and then
he's like, I keep the plane going. We're going all
the way to New Zealand. And then like he.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
She called him on it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, it's just like you couldn't have you just wanted
to be on TV, you couldn't have done this. We're
like in Rancho Cucamonga or wherever they live, Like what
are you talking? In Boston? Miami? I don't know where
she lived, Like what the fuck? Dude? Wild?

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
And I think my mom and I bought that this
wasn't completely produced.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
I think it was so stage.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Thank you just me like we have breaking news, we're
on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Yeah, And I'm like and then so they're like Tivvy Claire,
I have dated toxic men. This was not the toxic gag. Literally,
but I was so like I dated years ago and
now I dated him again, and then I found out
it was the bachelorette, So I broke up with Like what, like,
so you were just dating him again? Like I don't
even know. You did have pictures, like a lot of
like Christmas tree pictures, holiday pictures, travel, but.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
Like, but the way that she was acting with him
as was one if I shown up for you and
you're like, Robbie, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
You're like, I think it's like she was like, we're
clearly just friends. There's nothing happening. He's like, but he
was like, but we've been like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Instagram, a lot of travel together.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
I as well do it, and I'm with someone else.
I have a new child. Let's do this child.

Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
It was serious.

Speaker 8 (01:23:26):
I was never clear.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I never told you this, and you're waiting five minutes
from my house.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
But I walked over.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I told you there was cameras on. There weren't cameras on.
If I walked over and my my woman, I have
a child, might have been mad. She didn't she knew
I was getting air tied.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Oh, it was never clear exactly did they date a
couple of years ago and then it started again. I
know that she was never very clear that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
And then he goes and then he was like, Jen,
I love you, and she was like what. She's like
you're talking to She's like, what are you even talking about?

Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
It's like, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I'm ready for this, like to getting gay, Like yes,
I'm ready, let's do it. She's like, okay, well.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
They come back with my other eleven boy was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
The phraser that I was like, so you want to
date me and my eleven boy? I'm like, are they
all dating each other?

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Like you know, I'm like what is this? And she's
like I need a minute? And she walked like five
feet away.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
And there was also like, here's what's happening. Jens down
with the harbor, talking and her producers as she normally does,
and you're like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
What, We're about to really fuck with her?

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
Yeah, but she.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Seems to be actually happy, so we thought lead fucks
some shipau for that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
Yeah. She was wearing a shrug.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
I think she loves a shrug, but it's so everything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
She wears like that, it's unbecoming. Yeah, so cute. She's
so cute, cute body and everything great. Why does she
do that?

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
I say, yeah, because other people have had really good
some that's where it's get the stinker stylist. But I
think they have a say. I think like like some
people have been on point with their clothes and some
are not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
From what I've heard. Call ye, they've got the stylist.

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
But then like what they have as a say is
a little more like I'm comfortable with this type of style,
or they give them kind of inspiration points and fingers crossed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
The stylists can gather what that inspiration is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Is it the same stylist, because sometimes they really do
a good job and sometimes they die.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
In recent years, I know where a long term carry
was the stylist, but I don't know the past.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Maybe they couldn't afford to fly him over, like maybe
literally maybe this's like we have budget cuts them. We're
in Australia, so here's some shrugs and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
We're down on so many shrugs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Here's some fucking doctor chavago in the summer.

Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
They found the money to bring him over. I mean,
I cannot believe. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what
he does for a living.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
But goodness, yeah, yeah, that's so truely much money.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Exactly, it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
She also, you know, he was smiling the whole time.
He's like he never stopped smiling. I was like, this
guy's eating.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
She's like, I'm over Then the previews or whatever, we'll
have to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Yeah, the guys are passed.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Then he gets out of uh gets out of a
limousine though, to go to the rose full. And I
loved it when one of the guys said, it's really
not fair. All the guys are and she have just said.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
She's like, I'm She's like, I'm overwhelmed. He's like, I
really do I really do I love you? She's like, Matthew,
she goes, I do I do? I want to be.

Speaker 8 (01:26:39):
I want what is this again?

Speaker 11 (01:26:40):
Be with you?

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
I want to so bad, bad, bad trying to be
with you. It was, so what are you talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
Talking?

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
I think I think he lasts like five minutes. I
think it's the guys want to push him off a bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
No, legitimately, Samm's gonna be like, you want to do
the jump off?

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
I've had an idea exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Maybe it was like this weird prequel, or he's the
guy that's falls. Oh my gosh, he's exception ship.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
Next week.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
He's already gone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
He's been dead the whole time, he's been all time.
It's okay now before we do twit of the week,
we really appreciate when you leave us reviews. We're over
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Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Again against twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Okay, there were so many good ones. Here's one Aaron
Gibson five stars actually makes me l O l. This
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you can join Arden and her guest and giggling about
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one's for Scout. Oh can I just say so many sweet?

Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
So nice?

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Oh int, we got so many literally, Nicole Plaiermo wrote
us rip Scout and thank you. Katie was an email.
Dear production team. I'm listening to the latest episode and
I was so sad to hear about Scout's passing. I
stopped to write you. I've been listening to the podcast
since the pandemic, and I went back to listen to

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the glorious seasons I missed. I've been to live shows.
I took my family to No Autographs Please on my
birthday last year after having my kidney stone removed. And
UH was messaging with Anna just last week about sam
M's heinous ig presence.

Speaker 9 (01:28:42):
Oh yes, she sent me some good stuff and we
discovered his like massive cross tattoo on his arm, and
then also potentially that he just recently met his biological
father's kids.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
I don't know. There's a lot going on on the Instagram.
I recommend deep diving.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
All that to say, I feel like I know you
all after all this time, and I feel Scouts passing
as if I knew her too. I've actually been meaning
to reach out for weeks. We just adopted a dog,
and it makes me think of Katie and Scout whenever
I talk about adopting her. Adopting her was one of
the best things I've ever done. My partner and I
couldn't be happier with our sweet little mutt. Thank you

(01:29:18):
so much, Katie for your advocacy and your generosity of spirit.
Thank you Scout for being a real good girl, May
you fetch in peace. Sending love to you all. PS
Olympia Ali Ducoccis pictured below. These are okay, here we
Oh cute, that's a cute. That's a cute dog. How

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sweet is that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Look at that?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Oh my god, look at that. That's such a cute dog.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
What is sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
We have the best? We have the best listening.

Speaker 12 (01:29:49):
No, I got so many like beautiful and sweet comments.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Oh oh, here's another one Stacy Collins. Another email not
a Batchler podcast making me cry. This is the subject line.
I just wanted to send a quick note to thank
all of you for being so real and genuine. How
you make space to talk about a silly reality show
and laugh and be ridiculous while also acknowledging loss and

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insecurity and all of us working on becoming a champion
is truly an example of how I want to live
my life. Yes, it's a cliche to say you're doing
the Lord's work, but damn it, I think you are.
You are all doing more than you realize and helping
us all find joy on this planet while we grapple
with how hard it is just to be alive. So
keeping you arden, KT money and doctor Banana and friends,

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I know your other listeners and appreach y'all Muchiesimo, How
sweet is that? And that's from Stacy? How sweet is that?

Speaker 11 (01:30:44):
Sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Thank you? I mean honestly, and I like she's not
here right now, but just like having Rob's mom on
the fact that she listens, like I love our listeners,
I love our community. It was like I try to
it's hard to even explain. It always feels like Clark
kennon Superman when I'm trying to explain to people, like, well,
I have a Bachelor podcast, but like I don't even
know what I feel like it's a belittling, like like

(01:31:07):
it's like a secret. There's like a secret trap door
and his other stuff too. So anyway, here's I'll read
one more. Uh, here's one better late than ever, five stars,
and there's other ones that I'll read next week, which
I really appreciate. I've been loving this podcast for two
plus years, ever since I listened to all of Anna's
deckheads after discovering Discovering below deck during COVID, I was

(01:31:30):
delighted to find her involved in a podcast for the Bachelor.
This is from you, Anna, and I look forward to
every episode and feel its absence between Bachelor, Bachelotte, Paradise seasons.
Arden is a wonderful host and human who never feels
to include a consistent lineup of hilarious and insightful guests
like Gareth, Jakeith, Aaron, and Rob, just to name a few.
Big shout out to Katie for not only making this
podcast happen, but also her NonStop animal advocacy. I'm sorry

(01:31:53):
it took me so long to write a view review.
Five stars, Thank you. Here's one more most larious podcast
hashtag five stars. Funniest brothers on Earth. So so so
happy to have Jerry back. Where has he been? I've
missed him so much. The episodes with him are always hysterical.
He and too Keys together were hilarious and Maggie is
a wonderful Edian. Loved this episode so much. That episode

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is killing me. And I'm so excited that Jerry is
literally coming to New York Kenna better he better, He's
got he. Hopefully he has the date. Okay, let's go
back and do our tweet of the week. Okay, before
we do our tweet of the weeks, who do you
think the top three are in order? And who's the
next Bachelor. I'm gonna let Katie go first. No, okay, okay, okay,

(01:32:38):
okay for starting with number three second, second runner up.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
I want to say samm but I think he's gonna
fuck it up before that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:47):
But I think she doesn't want to go to fantasy
date fantasy sweets with him, you dear, you don't.

Speaker 12 (01:32:51):
I think she I think she wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Yeah, so that's number three. Okay, I'm gonna say samm
is three.

Speaker 10 (01:32:55):
Okay, I'm gonna say he does make it this far
somehow without message she's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Horny for him. Two Jonathan. Yeah, I was gonna say Jonathan.

Speaker 10 (01:33:04):
I think there's a connection there, like when they were
playing the cross like I was like, oh, this is
really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:33:09):
And I think he's gonna be a sleeper okay, you know,
like he's gonna come up Marcus.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
I think I think, like the fact that.

Speaker 10 (01:33:15):
Marcus kind of didn't open up, she's not gonna like that. Yeah,
And I think he like, I think he'll probably be
like maybe hometowns and they cut.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Yeah, and then number one I'm saying Devin, Okay, and
who's who's the next Bachelor?

Speaker 12 (01:33:27):
No idea?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Maybe maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
I really have no idea, Okay that.

Speaker 10 (01:33:33):
Okay, I'm just gonna say, Marcus, Okay, I don't know, Anna,
you want to go next?

Speaker 9 (01:33:38):
Top three? Yeah, I'm gonna say, oh my god, I've
already forgotten like everyone on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Wait, I'll come back to you. Yes, okay, second runner up?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I mean I'm with Katie. I think it's Sam, m Devin,
and Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Who's the winner?

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
I think there's no winner?

Speaker 11 (01:33:55):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
I think the twist is that she proposes to them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I can totally see her do it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
I think that's the twist. Remember what she said because
they won't propose Imber she wanted somebody to take her
last name, the wind, So I think she I think
she proposes to him. I think that's the twist. So so,
so let's assume it she ends up with somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
She ends up with somebody I'll go Jonathan, okay, and
who's Who's a bachelor? Somebody from another season?

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
None of these I think they won't choose.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I agree with that. I can't.

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
I literally I cannot picture it because I feel like,
at least by episode four, there's someone that everyone's buzzing
about that they love and no one there. Nobody loves
anybody this season.

Speaker 10 (01:34:40):
I feel like, you know, I agree, but they always
don't choose it, Like they chose Clayton, that's true, and
then they chose Cross.

Speaker 14 (01:34:48):
Sax Shall Cross, sax Shall Cross, I forgot about it.
Someone like Marcus though, would be interesting and I can't
talk he has personally might come out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Evan okay, number two, third runner up in.

Speaker 8 (01:35:06):
Order, Jonathan okay, Uh, Devon Grant Yeah, I think I
think that what they're doing right now is they're focusing
on all the drama. Okay, so it's like Devon, samm Salmon,
all that stuff is just fun and it's like popping,
like but like Grant and like even John, it's like

(01:35:27):
I feel like they're like rock solid. That's what I
think is going on is I think they're just like
not really showing any of those interactions and then they'll
come out. I think Sam m is going to do
something to blow it up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
And who's the next bachelor at Bachelor?

Speaker 8 (01:35:41):
Oh oh god? Uh? San Diego Mullet, Brian Aesthetics Consultant, Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
You know, Devon would actually be an interesting bachelor.

Speaker 8 (01:35:53):
Would that would be really good? Actually?

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Okay, Vin, I agree with Katie, so we said, uh,
sam m but that just turns my stomach. But anyway,
and then next would be Jonathan, who really.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Like and then Okay, and who's the next bachelor.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
I could see Jonathan, yeah, yeah, but I don't know
that that will happen. I I look for pizzazz with
all these people and I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
But their bachelors don't generally have his Clayton did it,
Jack Cross did it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
They don't have basically Joey.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Joey was the newest one. Oh and Joey was adorable
and everybody loved that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
I'm embarrassed to say Clayton or some of them said Clayton.
Clayton uh played football at the University of Missouri, which
is the town I live in. But no one there
had ever heard of him, and I think he only
I think he only played. My my other son is
a huge fan, though he lives in Minneapolis. He is
still a big fan. And no one had ever heard

(01:36:58):
of him, and I think he was on the bench
about a year or so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Versus, I thought Clayton's had a great Clayton a great season.
It was a very entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Because he also wore the Hillary Clinton coat and screamed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
I love you jumped over the fence, right.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
The love thing is like maybe not happening is is
like it depends why you like the show. I like
the toxic. It's crazy, it's like all over the place.
That's what I love about when people are just falling
in love. I'm like, Okay, it's.

Speaker 11 (01:37:29):
Fine, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
Going to get more that way.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Okay, let's hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
I never would have said this before this week's episode,
but I think Devin so uh sam M because she's
gonna want to fuck him. Yeah, and then Jonathan second
and Devin first, and I really don't see any of
these guys is the battle there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
You got to pick a gun to my head Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Okay, I'm going to say Jonathan number three a toxic
sam M number two because I think the two of
them together because they hate each other at.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
The finale if that tale goes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
And then I think Devin, they're not still together for sure.
And then I think the Bachelor is going to be
Marcus because he's just boring.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah, okay, okay, I think the.

Speaker 9 (01:38:30):
So yeah, I'm gonna do sam M three no, Devin two, Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
One, Okay, I was thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
What about John the medical.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Student for it would be adorable. We need to get
to know him.

Speaker 9 (01:38:41):
Might be able to if she really like Thomas and
the drama people kind of dissipate a little.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Yea, well, I think there's a handful of good guys
in there.

Speaker 8 (01:38:49):
There are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
Grant would be a good bachelor too.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
Haven't given us the opportunity to get to know them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Like you said, Dylan loved Dylan.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Yeah, yeah, Dylan, Yeah, I don't need yet yet.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
But you don't hear from him anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
A lot of these guys, so they said to Sometimes
they're sleepers, though, sometimes they're sleepers.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
I think you're not talking about Paradise. I know it's
not going to be on till other year or so,
that's right, But you're not talking about who could go
to Paradise. Who would work? I mean samm work.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Yes and Sam and yes, jackets he would come to
the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
His denim jacket came in the bug bugs down in
Mexico for hurquem Yes, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Maybe we didn't talk about it, and maybe that jacket
was actually made of denim in it was a black looked.

Speaker 7 (01:39:44):
Maybe maybe we're the ones and we were were the
silly ones on the other side of the mic, being like.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
He said, I made a complete fool of myself tonight.
And you want to go, dude, you didn't know that
I made? Yes? Do you not know?

Speaker 11 (01:40:01):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I don't think so himself.

Speaker 8 (01:40:06):
I just want to be one like what I would
give to have no self awareness, The joy I would experience,
the happiness I would have if I could just act. However,
I wanted to act and have no awareness of how
it was. That's true happiness.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Yeah, No, it would be amazing to have to be
able to just and then if something that was like
what I'm just being made like that. I think it's
like you see a professional guest later without even the
ballast of it, yea, Like, what are you talking about? Okay, Well,
I just alsot want to give a shout out to
our Queen Julie at Sleeve Crown, who sent me a

(01:40:42):
brand new travel pillow that I brought to Charleston. I
got to tell you, guys, I've never been to Charleston before.
I mean I went for a couple of days last
month to go to the beginning of this job. But
I stayed like by a highway, so I didn't even
see downtown Charleston. This time, I stayed downtown. I thought
I would like it, but I thought it would feel

(01:41:03):
a little like any tourist town that's like taffy shops, food.
I'm sure there's some of that there. It is so
interesting and beautiful and vibrant. Is a thriving city. The
College of Charleston is so beautiful. The buildings that people
were so nice. It's really it's just like a really cool,
vibrant city. I loved it. I loved it. Can't wait

(01:41:26):
to go back. Easy bit is It's great. It felt
kind of like New Orleans a little bit like it's
really like, oh, this is a neat town. It was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
You guys should go. It's probably about that far like
a little plane hub. Oh well maybe a close plane
ride anyway, really fun, like really fun. Highly recommend. There's
beaches and I can't wait to go back. Okay. Also,
speaking of our trip October, we're doing it Bellhouse US.

Speaker 8 (01:41:58):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Yes, we're gonna have to put the flyer up. Jerry
Traynor is coming you guys. Confirmed confirmed Jerry Trainor is coming.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
He d yes, I don't think he does.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
It's October fifth, October fifth, I said, sixth. Just know
it's the fifth.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
It's a fifth Saturday, October fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Very fun he's so funny. And then we have Jack
Keith's coming, Doctor Me and doctor Banana. My brother will
be there.

Speaker 9 (01:42:24):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
We might have you're not going. No, we might have Ellen.
We might have Ellen from Golden Bachelor Cross. We might
have Teresa Cross. Then we have Jordan Carlos, Seth her Es,
Evan Ambrose.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
We're pushing.

Speaker 11 (01:42:43):
Like that.

Speaker 8 (01:42:43):
It's a deal. You say it's done.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Yeah, really, I'm really big on manifestation. Keep the main thing,
the main thing, the main thing, Peter Pilot do it.
We gotta sell this thing out.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
That Trader's hype.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Oh yes, wow, okay, okay, okay, here we go. What
are guys talking about? Oh no, we're good, Okay, we're okay.
So but but she said sat Julie from sleep Crown
sent me a new travel loved it, so stop. I
gave my old winter Rebecca loves it. Yeah, And so
if you guys want your own, you go to sleep
Crown dot com. Backslash w y a t R code Dracula.

(01:43:24):
Do you love your sleep crown?

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
I love it so much?

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Do you guys haven't? Oh my god, get ready, get ready,
get ready, Like this.

Speaker 7 (01:43:32):
Is gonna be dangerous for Evan it was a big
sleeper anyways. All he gets one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
It's like wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
It's basically like a way to blanket meets a woody
meets a sleep mask and you put it in and
he soft and it like covers your ears and your
there's like precious, really soft, and you just go into
a dream portal. Okay, here we go with pat with
patented nosegap technology. Okay, here you go. All right. I
gotta give a shout out to the watcher at Telly Tubow,

(01:44:02):
who was really on fire this week. There were so
many fun ones. So if you want to participate, Look,
you don't have to be if you guys are like
we hate Eve on Musk, you don't have to be
on Twitter. You can do it at if you are
on Twitter, you can do it at Arte Marine Anna
host h O S S N I E H hashtag,
which is important. W y a t R do that
by midnight on the night that it airs. But you

(01:44:23):
could also be on threads and that's at selling host Nea,
or you can DM us and we get all of them.
Our winner last week was from a DM or a thread,
so so you don't have any it's our post of
the week. Here we go. They're going to win a
sleep crown and email us your mailing address. Rose Podcast
at gmail dot com, The Watcher at Telly Tubow. We're
gonna arrow it down to two. Thomas N. Anytime I

(01:44:43):
get to spend with Jen, I'm going to make the
most of every situation. Also, Thomas N. Devin, can I
steal you for a minute, just Telly Tubber, Sam, I
want her to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. Well, that
will certainly prepare her for a lifetime with you. Yeah yeah.
Here's another one from the Watcher ladies. When a man

(01:45:06):
tells you he was cheated on, please ask more questions
starting with did you cheat too?

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Yeah, okay, all right. Here's another one from them with
a photo. The producers were so incredibly unconvinced and uninvested
in sam N actually being chosen by Jen that instead
of getting a proper jersey printed out, they were like,
here's a sharpie.

Speaker 11 (01:45:30):
Go not.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
The front.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Oh my god. Here's another one from the same person.
In the photo of Sam in the leather jacket, Sam,
you do realize that just because the show airs in July,
it doesn't mean you're actually going to experience summer love it? Okay, Okay,
So here we go Melissa Jordan mj Jordan's seven the

(01:45:59):
Sky Jump and Eployee Lady comforting Jen more than Sam
is the closest we will ever get to having a
lesbian version of the battlor. This is Missus right, a
girl without attat sam M. I want her to be
comfortable being uncomfortable. I keep the main thing the main thing.
I am, Samm, Samm, I am. Do you like green

(01:46:20):
eggs and ham? Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:46:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
This is from Missus Wright. The screaming guy falling from
the sky right in front of Jen and Samm during
their date is an omen for their future. Okay. And
here's another one. This was a d M from Audrey Short,
Thomas and Sam arguing is like watching two turns circling
the drain. And here's the final one for another DM

(01:46:52):
from Laura Alsiak, Sam and Jem's date. Well, we can't
eat at this table, so we might as well fuck
all right, what are your top two?

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
I gotta go with the comfortable being uncomfortable lifetime with
Sam okay okay, And also this, Sam, I am.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Okay, right, okay, right, here we go, Okay, here we go, okay.
Are you guys ready?

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Here we are?

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Final two? This is from uh the watcher at Telly Tubo, Sam,
I want her to be comfortable with be an uncomfortable. Well,
that will certainly prepare her for a lifetime with you, Sam,
or from uh missus right a girl without a tat
sam M, I want her to be comfortable being uncomfortable.

(01:47:35):
I keep the main thing, the main thing. I am
sam m sam Am, I am. Do you like green
eggs and ham, green anxiety, green eggs and ham? Or
lifetime with you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
Green eggs and haim?

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
Okay, viv, I think green eggs and ham okay, evan.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Green eggs, green eggs, Okay, eggs, green eggs.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Telly Tubo, you had a valley at effort, but our
winner is missus Wright a girl without a hat. Sam Am,
I wonder, Sam, I want to be comfortable, to be uncomfortable.
The main thing, the main thing. I am, samm samm,
I am do you like Reeneggs and Ham.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
You like to promote rom oh, well on Yes, my
mother would like to promote what is it well?

Speaker 5 (01:48:10):
The episode that you just made on Owen Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Yes, they did an Owen Wilson show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
This nice.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
He was very nice and it's gonna be out probably
early next year on Apple TV. Uh and uh yeah,
I'm on the new season of The Boys.

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
Seen it so d so good, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Okay, Sam, would you like to promote there anything in
any small town thing in Missouri you want to promote?

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
Not really except Okay, I don't know if I can
say this or not say it. I'm very proud of
my town. That's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 11 (01:48:37):
Say it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
We are the little blue dot in the middle of Missouri.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
That's nice.

Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
It's the main campus of the University of Missouri where
highly educated, smart people live.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Okay, Hello, what town is it?

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Columbia, Missouri?

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Okay, it's a little town that you keep the main
thing the main thing.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
Yes, Well, we have about one hundred and thirty thousand people.
It's a total college town.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
That's so cool.

Speaker 5 (01:49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
May I just say you're such a joy, You're so beautiful,
And I just say yes you are. You're so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
You watch me walk with my cane.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
I don't mind.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
You know, the body's given out, but fortunately the brain
and the humor are still in techt.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
That's well and you look great and we were so
when I heard you were coming, we had to figure
out a date for you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
Well, I'm honored to be here and I never miss you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
We love you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
Want I want your podcast name?

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Yes, well you would you like to promote Chess and Evan.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
First of all, we're so happy that we got to
be on with you too. It's incredible. Obviously we love
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Yes, we love you, and I just say much. We
love you guys. And we heard it was a Thursday.
I was like, we can ask, we can ask your
I listened to your podcast is so good and I
like when you guys talk about your relationship. You give
relationship advice, like it's really cool.

Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
But you have to give me the name with the podcast,
so it's.

Speaker 7 (01:50:01):
Called your Mom and Dad. You can hear it on
Apple Podcasts, Spotify everything. It's also on youtubet on YouTube,
so everywhere you get it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
It's so good and they like they break down the
batchel and then An off season. Sometimes they do episodes
where they give like relationship advice. They're very like they're
so open, but it also doesn't feel like it doesn't
feel like thirsty Instagram like it feels like just like
this cool couple, like does it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
It's just this cool couple And like, you guys, do
any other reality shows.

Speaker 8 (01:50:30):
Or just we do?

Speaker 11 (01:50:31):
We do?

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
I mean, depending on what's on we do Love is
Blind Traders.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Oh my god, you guys on the plane on the
plane yesterday back I flew in front of do you
remember on Love is Blind? The woman that was really hot,
who is the mom Jessica. Yes, I flew from her.
So so I was so because I was working, they
flew me first class.

Speaker 8 (01:50:50):
I was going to say in front.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Up it was it was in first class. I was
in first class. So it's because because I had like
but like normally I would just fly, I just fly
myself coach. So I was first class and I I
peel a lot, so I had an aisle seat. And
then she came and she was like, can you switching me?
Like because she was flying with her daughter. So I
was like, I'm not gonna not say yeah. I was
like because she only had window seats. But it's not

(01:51:14):
like what am I gonna say?

Speaker 8 (01:51:15):
No but her you need to learn.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Earlier like fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
But I'm like and I'm like, who's how did she get?
Like you're all flying first class cross country?

Speaker 8 (01:51:27):
That's wild?

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Yeah, but yeah, also you're kind of like you taughters fourteen,
she's like.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Fourteen, she's at eight.

Speaker 8 (01:51:32):
She was like she was a.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
But but I will say she was really pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I was like I know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
I'm like, oh I know this.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
She was just a perfect match, which we covered that too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
How what what was her vibe like on Perfect Match?

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
I loved her on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
She was really pretty, she was nice. She was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
She she was connected to the biggest stuff fuck boy
in like you know reality TV. Harry Jowsey.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
I don't know him from what show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I mean he was on Too Hot to Handle and
he became huge. Oh yeah, he became huge on like
TikTok but influencer, Like it's running out circles.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
Are they still together?

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
They are not? Okay? He like declared his love for
her and then lied and you watch.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
It was what's it called?

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Perfect Match?

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Do I need to watch it?

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
I feel like if you watch Love is Blind.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
I'm usually watching Love Island us A right now. It's incredible,
it's time consuming.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
It's incredible. The best we need to watch that this season.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
I'm only a couple episodes in because it's I've been busy,
but it's like it's a really good like at e
Van at the end of the night, it's like, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Really my kids what my older kids watch? Too Hot
to handle?

Speaker 8 (01:52:45):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
When my mom died, I tried to make my brother
that night watch Too Hot with me in the den
and it was just like really horny people getting at it.
And Aleric was just like, I can't do that tonight,
Like not tonight, not tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
Are we still?

Speaker 11 (01:53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
Yeah, Oh, I shouldn't say that, it's it. I just
say those people are Bachelor throwbacks. Yeah, I mean, you
know you have to be really stupid. Yes, I can
watch any of my grandchildren always get me into watching everything,
But I had a hard time with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Yeah, that I understand.

Speaker 5 (01:53:24):
Incredible. It's not the sex part, it's the incredible mindlessness.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
What showed you like reality TV besides The Bachelor?

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Well, I don't know. I used to watch. I used
to watch all the Bravo shows. Yeah, but yeah, but
I don't. I don't love us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Blind is fine. If you start with season one, you
might like it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
And what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
It's on Netflix? Do you have Netflix? You might like
love us my dream everything you love us mine is fine?
And then the last season of the first and the
last season have been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Okay, yeah, I think you would like it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
And I want to apologize because I said your mom's
you know, it's not your mom's house. It's your mom
and dad.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
I said that early, and I'm like, your mom's house.
I don't know if they need more promo.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
I know, I know, actually huge, but it's a huge.
But I know what your podcast is. I'm just hot
and jet lagged, and so I apologize, but I know
it's your mom and because I listened to you guys,
and so I was like, anyway, that's going to be
my first thing is Yeah. No, they're so grand, They're
really just they're just them.

Speaker 5 (01:54:20):
They're great and I can see that. Yeah, And that's
what makes podcasts good. If you're real, and it makes it,
that's what makes them good. Some that I've listened to,
there's been a couple of other Bachelor ones. There was
one with a couple of ladies and I couldn't do
more than one.

Speaker 7 (01:54:39):
Real well, I just started watching The Boys, so I'm
so excited. I mean, I know I was talking about it,
but it was one of those I just started in.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
It, So just started.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
He's got a big episode, Katie Anna, what would you
like to promote as always, plea to your local shelter
and adopt or foster an animal.

Speaker 10 (01:55:03):
And also please make sure you are registered to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
If you think you are, we'll just go check. Yes, yes,
Doctor bernine.

Speaker 9 (01:55:09):
You can tweet it the week at me selling hosting
on Instagram if you want, you can just DM me
if you don't have Twitter. But yeah, I also want
to also promote Rob on The Boys because when he
came on, I was screaming the whole episode and I
was at my parents house watching it and they were
like fully horrified.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
They were like, what is this show? I was like,
that's my friend. My parents were like, what the fuck
are you watching?

Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
How?

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
I really recommend it and our Patreon is really fun
because our listeners. I went to Miss Pat's house. I
went to Miss Pat's house in Charles Dead. It was
she's so rich it's like a huge it's like a
huge it's like a huge city.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Even buying a library and be like I live here now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
No, I mean she's been nominated, she got married, her
fourth thousand was by a Supreme Court justice, and and
so we're doing blow deeck Mediterranean. Yes, get your tickets
to the Bellhouse. Jerry trainor is coming October if you
know it's the date. Okay, until next time. My name
is on thinking so much?

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Come bye?

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Oh yeah, we're.

Speaker 11 (01:56:12):
Gonna get all up in you tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
It feels so good.

Speaker 8 (01:56:18):
I just got one little question finger.

Speaker 11 (01:56:19):
Out Where you accept this roll? Will you reaccept this roll?
Listen to your world? Where Jerry accept this rolls?

Speaker 8 (01:56:40):
Listen to your world?

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
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