April 21, 2025 • 28 mins
On this episode of WNTTLK, Nyla and Wiz Khalifa sit down for a candid conversation about his evolution from a military kid to one of hip-hop’s most recognizable voices. He reflects on the early days of his career, the creative freedom that shaped Kush & Orange Juice, and how collaboration has fueled his growth as an artist. Wiz opens up about his wellness journey, the routine that keeps him grounded, and the mindset behind his latest album. With a mix of humor and introspection, he talks legacy, longevity, and what it means to keep growing while staying true to yourself.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
Growing up on your moon and yours. I'm trying to
get it down with you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
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money long and you not? You need to talk, my girl.
We need if you could go back in time to
that era. Is it anything that you would.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Tell yourself do some push ups?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Oh my gosh, what'd you really?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
My chest was small. The person who brought him to
the show was like, Hey, where's this is? Jay? I'm like,
what's up? Jay? And then I said, oh z, it
was fun touring.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
One math favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's probably like all the stuff we did backstage, Like
we used to just do like little pranks on each
other and like kidnap each other and like we used
to we used to do crazy stuff. I'm really good
at what I do because I practice, but I practiced
because I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You see that Math? That was good Math right there?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Get what up? Is your boy? Whiz Khalifa Man and
my new project Cushing Orts used too is out? Now
what's up? Na? We need to talk?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now let's go on here with another episode. We need
to talk. And today we got a very special guest
in the building. We got a legend in the building.
We got with I love that. We're gonna add effects.
But that's great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I am honored that you're here. I'm so excited. I'm
trying to keep my composure, but I'm such a fan
of real what yes from yeah, from two thousand and
nine to now, so it's like very full circle moment
for me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
To lead off, I have a lot of fan questions,
and then I'll get into question what used to?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, cool? Now, Growing up, I was an army brat,
and I know you're an army brat, but I also
know you hate the term army brat or I read
that somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't. I don't identify with the term.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What not identifying with it?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Because my parents were in the military does not make
me an me brad?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay, yeah, so what does it make you?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, my mom got out of the military when I
was two years old, so my whole family is from Pittsburgh,
so I live when I live with my mom, I
lived in Pittsburgh, and when I was with my dad
then I traveled in the military, so it was like
a shared experience. Yeah, I lived that. You know that.
You know I've been called a base kid and all
of that stuff just for living on base. But I'm
(03:26):
from Pittsburgh, So anytime I went anywhere else, I was
from Pittsburgh and I was just in that place.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Got it? Yeah, Okay, I was always curious about that.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's just why I don't identify
with it. But I get it though. You know, that's
the easiest thing to like call somebody. Yeah yeah, but
you identify with it though. But it's cool that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I identified with it. But that's partially why identify with
you too, even though I knew you were from Pittsburgh.
But it's still like, oh he got military tat I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean as a kid, like by the
time I was like, you know, fourteen, it was a
rap where you still traveling in the military, but in
the teens and.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Stuff, my dad just retired.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh for real, and so I know what it's like.
You know, I get it. We got some ties. I
don't want to break the ties.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, I'm going to take it back to early whiz
like Pittsburgh sounds say, y'all, yeah, you were rapping differently sonically.
What caused the switch or inspired it?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Really just experimenting more. I had been heavily inspired by
like Dipsead and three six Mafia and just like harder
music growing up. But the older that I got, I
started to experience different types of music in a different way.
And especially when I started smoking weed, I just started
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like listening to some cooler shit and just listening to
different elements of the music. And then that inspired a
different type of more lyrical, laid backstyle. And then I
started to meet people who we had similar interest and
I felt like our styles, you know, complimented each other.
And through that, you know, I was putting in a
(05:13):
lot of work before, but through dope, through the music
that made at that time, that's what really gave me
my identity for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I can see that in your opinion. I'm just curious,
who do you think had the best verse on glass House?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Me?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It all lot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If it wasn't me, it'll definitely be currency, because you know,
Spinner killed that ship for sure? Well yeah, me for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Are you a fan of Samurai Templo?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, okay, I only asked about it because of the
Checkpoint video.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we was watching that heavy at that time.
I wish they made more seasons. Man, what what drew
you to it currency I had. Yeah, I had never
really watched too much anime or even like being you know,
put onto it. I was a fan, like as a kid,
but I didn't really understand it. But Currency was really
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in that world, like he was into anime. So he
put me on.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Now my favorite? Well, I'm right now I'm watching a tack.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On Tight and my my attack on Tite.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, my son, he put me onto that, so that's
what we're watching now.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He got good taste.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, Bash, No, what's up?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay? I've always wondered what your relationship is like with
Meek mil because you guys are both from major cities
in PA. But we haven't got a collapse.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I'm cool with me. All of our like our
family members and close people are super cool, and we
known each other like on our on our way up.
I don't know why we never collap. I think just
because we make like two different types of music. I
know his music is very energetic and very laid back.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But I feel like it would make sense for the
town though.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, I feel like it too. It's Pa all day.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It is true, all right, we'll do some manifesting on that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It'll happen. He'll see this and be like, all right,
where's let's get it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I mean, it seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, talk to me about the impact of how Fly
had on both of your careers. You and Currency at
the time when it dropped.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I think we came together, like at the perfect time.
Our Currency had put on a lot of work in
his career and I put it in a lot of
work in mind, and we both just met really organically.
Like I hit him up on Twitter and I was
just like, Yea, I'm gonna come down to New Orleans
and chill and we should record some music. He was like,
I'll put you in a hotel. I'm like, nah, save
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that money and buy some weed. He was like, bruh,
That's exactly what I needed you to say. Ever since then,
like we've just been cool as heck, and we traveled together.
We came to New York and shopped and lived in
certain places together, and we just really made a movement
based off of our friendship. And a lot of people
(07:58):
got to see that, you know, but at the time
and our fan base is really similar. That's why we
always say jet Life. Taylor Gang because it's really like
the same thing. It's just you know, we came together
and like, you know, bonded.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I love that, and I actually love seeing stuff like that.
I know rap is competitive, but like, man, we never
had no competition.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We don't even talk about what we're going to write about,
Like when we get in the studio, like we just write.
He does his verse, I do my verse, and that's it.
I would never correct him. He would never be like, hey, dude,
you should probably It's like, it's tight, that's what you
went through today. Cool, Like, let's get it. It's never
no competition. When he gets stuff, he always like teaches
me about. He taught me a lot about cars and
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shoes and just like lifestyle in general. Because when I
met him, I was probably like twenty two years old,
so I was really young and I hadn't had as
many experiences as he had either. So he put me onto.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
A lot with as a jit man. Yeah, yeah, okay,
you did a track for Mortal back in like twenty fifteen.
Do you remember how that came about.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
This was before gaming was as popular as it is now. Really,
it was like kind of on the way up, and
one of my main in House producers Sledgron He was
like one of the top players on Mortal Kombat, so
we had got the opportunity through them. Knowing about Sledger
(09:27):
and Sledgerend also produced on like Cushion, Orange Juice, a
lot of stuff, Yeah, Flight School everything. Sledge has been
there since the beginning. But yeah, they gave us the
opportunity to do the song. So I was like, sledgering
you produce it, and he produced the song and I
wrote it and it became I think it was more
Combat ten or something like that. MK two.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, Scorpion or sub Zero.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Damn. I like sub Zero's like special moves, but Scorpion
as a fighter way better. So I'm gonna go with Scorpion.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
OK. Yeah, it is wild to think that Cushion OJ
dropped fifteen years ago. It's definitely a classic and a
defining moment in your career. What do you think made
it resonate so much?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think just the memories that it created. A lot
of people have really good memories to it, and they
did a lot of cool stuff to it, and it
was the soundtrack to some really good moments in people's lives.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, Yeah, what I wanted to go
inc my whole body. I mean this is before that,
but I went to whole body. I wanted to do
so much things didn't. I did not the whole body.
I just got some pieces.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know, nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
My dad is an army brat. He's not really with
the sleeves and ship like that. But I'm working on it.
You good, You're good, You got some You got some
space quest Yeah, by any means necessary, Malcolm. And these
are DJ hands slashing yang and then I have a
tat on my ear. But if you could go back
in time to that era, is it anything that you
would tell yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Do some push ups?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh my gosh, what did you really my chest was small?
You would have gotten into fitness earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, totally. I didn't know how crazy I was looking back.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I don't think you were looking crazy though it was small.
I mean, yeah, but that's a part of the process.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta stay down to come up.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
What inspired you to get more into like fitness.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I just got older, Yeah, just through time. It just
became something that was more important. I worked a lot
of years on being an artist, but fitness is what
helps me be a good person. And that's what is
going to carry me on for the rest of my life.
So it was it was time to get started.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Do you see yourself ever like competing professionally.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Nah, I don't. I don't do it to compete professionally.
I do it, you know, just for personal and too.
Like I said, be a better person, and I don't
think getting in the ring is gonna help me be
a better person.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, okay, now let's get into Cushion Orange Juice too.
Did you feel any pressure in putting this together like Cushi?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
No, I didn't feel any pressure. It was fun and
it was something that I knew that if I listened
to the right people, which is the fans, and paid
attention to the right moments that matter to them, that
I could get it right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, okay. It starts off jazzy, perfect roll up music.
We love that. Who produced it?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
The majority of it is Cardo Sledgering, I, Dan Mike
and Keys and DJ Quick Problem and myself And yeah,
so that's why the sound is. I feel like it's well,
I already know what pocket the fans expect and understand
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as like what resonates for Cushion Orange Juice, and it hits,
all of those, all of those.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Notes, definitely which ones? Did it? Quick Do?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He produced on the bonus tracks like hit It Once,
Bring Your Lungs, and he's featured on take Your Time
Get Paid. Yeah yeah, wait.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I don't think I heard the bonus tracks.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, that's cool. Yeah, they came out before the album,
like before we released the whole thing, so it was
like kind of setting everything up for it. That's why
I allowed him to be bonus tracks, and that's why
they're at the end after the outro Got It. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, I want to move into the second track
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on the project, How We Act featuring ot Genesis.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, this hook is wild. Uh huh yeah, you let
him get away? What she want to cuddle? I want
to cuddle two legs in the air in the middle.
That's a wye come on.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It honestly made me laugh when I heard it. But
what you heard it? It was just like, yeah, that's tough.
Why did I think of that?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No? I mean he said how he felt, you know
what I mean, And like that's what that's what it's
all about. It's like lifestyle shit. It's like shit that
you could have fun too and enjoy yourself, and to me,
it just reminded me of like the nineties, like a
house party like Uncle Luke. Yeah, like you know what
I mean, just like real fun, like raw type shit,
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you know what I mean. And it's something that I
wouldn't have said as well. So to be able to
have that be a part of it and I don't
have to say it, I'm perfectly fine.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
With that said. We got that off hell yeah, hell yeah. Okay,
after that, you have Crime Button Women.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
My favorite line on there was my son and my
daughter gonna be proud when they hear my old tapes. Now,
I'm curious, do they like rap along now? At least?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah? Yeah, he knows my shit because I bring him
on tour with me, so he knows my shit. And
he's getting older now too, so his friends are starting to,
you know, understand what that type of music is and
they're starting to be like, Yo, your dad's like really
the goat, Like he's a legend. So he gets it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Does he accept it or does he just see you
as dad?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh? He totally accepts it. Yeah, he knows what's up.
I love that, Yeah, definitely for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy
for your family.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It means a lot to me just having a good
catalog and just being able to make people feel good.
Like that's what's really important, and that's what stands out,
is that my music changes people's lives for the better.
So the fact that my kids get to benefit off
of that, I'm really happy or my family in general.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
For sure, Yeah, I really like I'm jumping ahead to
I might be, but I really like how you say
when you're ogi, you try to build a team. But
outside of just me loving the fact that you want
to build a team, A lot of people can be selfish.
But like, at what point did you become like the
young OG?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I would say probably like in my early twenties, you know,
like when I started doing all the cushion orange juice stuff,
and really, yeah, for sure, I mean I got all
of my whole squad together, and I was the example
in the bar of what to do and what not
to do and the way that I carry myself and
the people that I aligned myself with, they know that
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I'm not going to send you down the road to
do anything that I'm not going to do or haven't
already done. So I'm the light and I've been that
and I'm gonna be that.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'm surprised that you embraced that so early.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I mean, you have to when you know your capabilities
and when you're the first one to the studio and
when you're the last one to the studio and you're
the one catching flights and you're on the road and
you're doing promo, and you're doing social media, and you're
editing your own videos, and you're you know, doing and
picking out your outfits and you're designing to merge and
(17:03):
you're doing everything. And at the end of the day,
like people follow the leader, Yeah, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
How did you manage to do all that and smoke
weed at the same time.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'm really like that. That's what I tell people is
you got to be built for it, because a lot
of people will smoke weed and get lazy and forget
to do stuff and win and show up places. But
I do all of that and I smoke a ton
of weed because I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That guy, built different different. We got to add that means.
But okay, let's get into five star talk about doing
yoga and rolling up with them like you just changed girls'
life it sounds like a soft life, a healthy life.
But it just made me curious as to like what
a day in the life of Whiskalefah looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I mean, I try to tell you it throughout
the whole album. Man, I'm glad that you can in
on these lyrics because these are the ones that are
different from the old stuff but really matter to me,
because that is a day in my life. Like I said,
kicking it with my two kids, that's a perfect evening.
So as long as I get to chill with my kids,
long as I get to work out, long as I
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get to record some music, I'm good. That's pretty much it.
I wake up early. I get up like five thirty
six in the morning, and my morning is dedicated to
social media and my family and just getting myself together.
Then immediately after that, I'm in a gym until noon
or one o'clock. Two o'clock is the latest, because that's
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after my yoga class. Then after two o'clock that's when
my meetings or anything like that is schedule. And then
after that the studios from eight to about twelve or
two thirty and then I go to sleep and I
do it again.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That is a good life.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's amazing. It's so much fun. It's so nondisruptive.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
How long did it take you to build that type
of schedule or were you always like kind of like
oriented like that.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
No, I wasn't always like that. Like I said, it
takes time, and I'm still developing and learning, you know,
new techniques and methods to balance and recalibrate and things
like that. And that's what it's really all about. Is
I give off so much energy and I do so much.
I have to rebuild that. And that's what I start
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to understand. And the older that I got was like
the things that restore that energy instead of just keep going,
going going.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yep, Lord have mercy. That sounds like page I need
to take out of your book.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's cool, take your time, get paid.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm tired. Okay. Did you have like a moment where
like a moment of burnout?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No? No, I never had that. But but I don't
want to get that because I understand how important I am,
because if I burn out then it's a rap. So,
like I said, being the first to the studio, now
I got to be the first to the gym. Now
I got to be the first you know, person taking
care of myself and showing myself that self love, so
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everybody can understand the stages of Okay, this is how
you get here, but this is how you sustain it
and maintain.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It maintaining Yes, no, that's real. Okay, I like that
and I really respect the discipline.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Actually, yeah, for sure, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Okay, I want to talk about Pimpston Hustlers because you
got a little Tyler on it. I was like, dang,
that's actually fire. If I was a rapper, I would
be so honored to be a part of Christian oors
Used too. But what's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like, we had just met because I did the freestyle
over the Florida Boy and I always like spoke highly
of Little Tyler just because of how positive he is
and like he don't talk about violence and shit like that.
He's a young dude, so it was always my intention
to work with him. And then we did the song
and I was like, damn this shit hard. Literally it
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was like a week before the album was supposed to
come out, so I was like, man, I'm gonna just
throw this on the album, Like it just sounds good.
Are gonna love it? So it just makes sense.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
What song is your favorite on the tabe Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't have necessarily a favorite. I don't like to
say favorite, but the one that hits like the hardest
is like it's Red Eyes when it comes on. I
love that one. I love Max bat interlude, and yeah,
they all just like they're different to me because when
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you're in a car, it sounds different than if you're
working out, then it sounds different. If you're cleaning up,
it sounds different. If you come to the show and
you see it, like I'm just now starting to perform
some of the songs and I'm gonna have new favorites
based off of performing them. Yeah, yeah, So it's difficult
for me to single them out. And that's really what
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this is all about. It's like whatever your experience to
the song is, it's not even just the music's true
because even like the Gunner song, like I love that song,
Like that song is hard as fuck to me, and
it's a vibe was good. It slaps and for whatever
occasion and whatever memory it burns into your head, that's
what you're gonna remember.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah yeah, yep, five Star, that's likely the most relatable. Okay, yeah,
you go so we're gonna get into this game called
questions that need answers. All you have to do is
fill in the blank. All right, Okay, the older I get,
the less I party what I mean, I guess that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I like being at home by the fireplace listening
to records. Yeah, I'd much rather do that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's true. That is a party if you got the
right people with you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, but it's not going out and partying. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so maybe I've just say going out. Yes, the less
I go out?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I felt that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Do you have like a vinyl collection?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, yep, some of your favorites anything from Miles Davis,
Verry White and the Love The Love Unlimited Orchestra. They
got some slappers, Quincy Jones, he got a nice catalog.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So you've be getting the house listening to jazz. That's
your party. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Alexander O'Neil fucking Anita Baker R and b with I'll
be I'll be find. I'd be finding like a lot
of stuff too that I didn't even know was as
cold as it as it as it as it is.
So yeah, that's my vibe.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
That's fun. I love that you still love music.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I really do. I really do. I enjoy it.
It's the feeling that I get from it, and that's
what I try to recreate with my music. It's not
necessarily always about like just being, you know, the best.
I'm really good at what I do because I practice,
but I practice because I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, you see that math. That was
a good math right there. If I wasn't a rapper, I.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Work with kids. What Yeah, I love children so cute.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I love that. But my first rap check I.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Bought a car what type m It was a piece
of ship job done. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Craziest moment I've had on tour had to be when.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
When jay Z was backstage at one of my shows. Yeah,
because I didn't even know who he was. I know
who jay Z is, but he was just so low key,
like in the cut. And then the person who brought
him to the show was like, Hey, where is this is? Jay?
I'm like, what's up, JA, And I said, oh z.
(24:38):
It was right before I was going on stage too,
I'm like, nag, you forgot a letter man. So yeah, no,
that shit was wild because I was right going on stage,
so it just blew my mind, like fucking jay Z
is here like fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, I probably I
probably chilled. Yeah No, I didn't say ship because he
(24:59):
was in there looking like a ninja, so I didn't
want to, like, you know, do all that.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
That is really cool, Yeah, ironic With the next question.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Is jay Z is jay Z is? Where is jay Z?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Too many things?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Not what jay Z was? But what is jay Z?
What is he?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
When you word it like that, Yeah, A pillar?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
A pillar? Okay, I can see that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You don't like that one, all right, what you got
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm trying. Jay Z is.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
A blueprint?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that one. I like that
a lot. Definitely a blueprint for sure. I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay, Yeah that was going.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I needed help on that one. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I got you anytime. Look sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I'm super proud it should be. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
My favorite memory rest in Peace Mac Miller had to
be when.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
When we went on tour. We had so much fun
on tour. Yeah, it was fun touring on Mac. Favorite
moment it's probably like all the stuff we did backstage,
Like we used to just do like little pranks on
each other and like kidnap each other, and like we
used to do crazy stuff and we were recorded and
(26:35):
making music and stuff too, so it was fun. It
was like it was like summer camp.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What boys say, it's fun, he said, kidnap each other.
I'm like what Yeah, Yeah, Laura had Mercy Okay. And
then my last question, it's not feeling the blink. But
back in the day, Taylor Gang had Juicy J, Chabby Woods,
Titla signed Lola. What does Taylor Gang look like in
twenty twenty five and what.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Is the future still a lot of those same artists,
whether it's through management or just being cool and being
able to reach out whenever. And for the future of
Taylor Gang, we got tours coming up, we got fed
to God, we got more merch. It's really just about
(27:24):
like rebranding and expanding the brand. Because the people who
know Taylor Gang, they know what the lifestyle is like.
But the people who don't, they're living it. They just
need to be acclimated. Yeah, exactly. So we're just gonna
bring them home. And that happens through the music. It
happens through being on the road and connecting with them
(27:46):
and you know, actually just going to see them and
giving them a reason to have faith and belief in us.
So that's what the next step is, is to really
just reach out and touch the fans in a big way.
That's kind of like, you know, matter for the next
ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I love that because you really don't got to do it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
With I do. I told you I love this shit.
There we go.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I respect it. Thank you so much for joining me
on We Need to Talk.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yep, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Black Effect Podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Growing up on your moon and yours. I'm trying to
get it down with you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We'll get your boys. Know we to do your girl
money long and you not? You need to talk, my girl.
We need if you could go back in time to
that era. Is it anything that you would.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Tell yourself do some push ups?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Oh my gosh, what'd you really?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
My chest was small. The person who brought him to
the show was like, Hey, where's this is? Jay? I'm like,
what's up? Jay? And then I said, oh z, it
was fun touring.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
One math favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's probably like all the stuff we did backstage, Like
we used to just do like little pranks on each
other and like kidnap each other and like we used
to we used to do crazy stuff. I'm really good
at what I do because I practice, but I practiced
because I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You see that Math? That was good Math right there?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Get what up? Is your boy? Whiz Khalifa Man and
my new project Cushing Orts used too is out? Now
what's up? Na? We need to talk?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now let's go on here with another episode. We need
to talk. And today we got a very special guest
in the building. We got a legend in the building.
We got with I love that. We're gonna add effects.
But that's great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I am honored that you're here. I'm so excited. I'm
trying to keep my composure, but I'm such a fan
of real what yes from yeah, from two thousand and
nine to now, so it's like very full circle moment
for me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
To lead off, I have a lot of fan questions,
and then I'll get into question what used to?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, cool? Now, Growing up, I was an army brat,
and I know you're an army brat, but I also
know you hate the term army brat or I read
that somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't. I don't identify with the term.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
What not identifying with it?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Because my parents were in the military does not make
me an me brad?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay, yeah, so what does it make you?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, my mom got out of the military when I
was two years old, so my whole family is from Pittsburgh,
so I live when I live with my mom, I
lived in Pittsburgh, and when I was with my dad
then I traveled in the military, so it was like
a shared experience. Yeah, I lived that. You know that.
You know I've been called a base kid and all
of that stuff just for living on base. But I'm
(03:26):
from Pittsburgh, So anytime I went anywhere else, I was
from Pittsburgh and I was just in that place.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Got it? Yeah, Okay, I was always curious about that.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's just why I don't identify
with it. But I get it though. You know, that's
the easiest thing to like call somebody. Yeah yeah, but
you identify with it though. But it's cool that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I identified with it. But that's partially why identify with
you too, even though I knew you were from Pittsburgh.
But it's still like, oh he got military tat I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean as a kid, like by the
time I was like, you know, fourteen, it was a
rap where you still traveling in the military, but in
the teens and.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Stuff, my dad just retired.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh for real, and so I know what it's like.
You know, I get it. We got some ties. I
don't want to break the ties.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, I'm going to take it back to early whiz
like Pittsburgh sounds say, y'all, yeah, you were rapping differently sonically.
What caused the switch or inspired it?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Really just experimenting more. I had been heavily inspired by
like Dipsead and three six Mafia and just like harder
music growing up. But the older that I got, I
started to experience different types of music in a different way.
And especially when I started smoking weed, I just started
(04:50):
like listening to some cooler shit and just listening to
different elements of the music. And then that inspired a
different type of more lyrical, laid backstyle. And then I
started to meet people who we had similar interest and
I felt like our styles, you know, complimented each other.
And through that, you know, I was putting in a
(05:13):
lot of work before, but through dope, through the music
that made at that time, that's what really gave me
my identity for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I can see that in your opinion. I'm just curious,
who do you think had the best verse on glass House?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Me?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It all lot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
If it wasn't me, it'll definitely be currency, because you know,
Spinner killed that ship for sure? Well yeah, me for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Are you a fan of Samurai Templo?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, okay, I only asked about it because of the
Checkpoint video.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we was watching that heavy at that time.
I wish they made more seasons. Man, what what drew
you to it currency I had. Yeah, I had never
really watched too much anime or even like being you know,
put onto it. I was a fan, like as a kid,
but I didn't really understand it. But Currency was really
(06:09):
in that world, like he was into anime. So he
put me on.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Now my favorite? Well, I'm right now I'm watching a tack.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
On Tight and my my attack on Tite.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, my son, he put me onto that, so that's
what we're watching now.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He got good taste.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, Bash, No, what's up?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay? I've always wondered what your relationship is like with
Meek mil because you guys are both from major cities
in PA. But we haven't got a collapse.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I'm cool with me. All of our like our
family members and close people are super cool, and we
known each other like on our on our way up.
I don't know why we never collap. I think just
because we make like two different types of music. I
know his music is very energetic and very laid back.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But I feel like it would make sense for the
town though.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, I feel like it too. It's Pa all day.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It is true, all right, we'll do some manifesting on that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It'll happen. He'll see this and be like, all right,
where's let's get it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I mean, it seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I'm down.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, talk to me about the impact of how Fly
had on both of your careers. You and Currency at
the time when it dropped.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I think we came together, like at the perfect time.
Our Currency had put on a lot of work in
his career and I put it in a lot of
work in mind, and we both just met really organically.
Like I hit him up on Twitter and I was
just like, Yea, I'm gonna come down to New Orleans
and chill and we should record some music. He was like,
I'll put you in a hotel. I'm like, nah, save
(07:38):
that money and buy some weed. He was like, bruh,
That's exactly what I needed you to say. Ever since then,
like we've just been cool as heck, and we traveled together.
We came to New York and shopped and lived in
certain places together, and we just really made a movement
based off of our friendship. And a lot of people
(07:58):
got to see that, you know, but at the time
and our fan base is really similar. That's why we
always say jet Life. Taylor Gang because it's really like
the same thing. It's just you know, we came together
and like, you know, bonded.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I love that, and I actually love seeing stuff like that.
I know rap is competitive, but like, man, we never
had no competition.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We don't even talk about what we're going to write about,
Like when we get in the studio, like we just write.
He does his verse, I do my verse, and that's it.
I would never correct him. He would never be like, hey, dude,
you should probably It's like, it's tight, that's what you
went through today. Cool, Like, let's get it. It's never
no competition. When he gets stuff, he always like teaches
me about. He taught me a lot about cars and
(08:43):
shoes and just like lifestyle in general. Because when I
met him, I was probably like twenty two years old,
so I was really young and I hadn't had as
many experiences as he had either. So he put me onto.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
A lot with as a jit man. Yeah, yeah, okay,
you did a track for Mortal back in like twenty fifteen.
Do you remember how that came about.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
This was before gaming was as popular as it is now. Really,
it was like kind of on the way up, and
one of my main in House producers Sledgron He was
like one of the top players on Mortal Kombat, so
we had got the opportunity through them. Knowing about Sledger
(09:27):
and Sledgerend also produced on like Cushion, Orange Juice, a
lot of stuff, Yeah, Flight School everything. Sledge has been
there since the beginning. But yeah, they gave us the
opportunity to do the song. So I was like, sledgering
you produce it, and he produced the song and I
wrote it and it became I think it was more
Combat ten or something like that. MK two.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, Scorpion or sub Zero.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Damn. I like sub Zero's like special moves, but Scorpion
as a fighter way better. So I'm gonna go with Scorpion.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
OK. Yeah, it is wild to think that Cushion OJ
dropped fifteen years ago. It's definitely a classic and a
defining moment in your career. What do you think made
it resonate so much?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think just the memories that it created. A lot
of people have really good memories to it, and they
did a lot of cool stuff to it, and it
was the soundtrack to some really good moments in people's lives.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, Yeah, what I wanted to go
inc my whole body. I mean this is before that,
but I went to whole body. I wanted to do
so much things didn't. I did not the whole body.
I just got some pieces.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You know, nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
My dad is an army brat. He's not really with
the sleeves and ship like that. But I'm working on it.
You good, You're good, You got some You got some
space quest Yeah, by any means necessary, Malcolm. And these
are DJ hands slashing yang and then I have a
tat on my ear. But if you could go back
in time to that era, is it anything that you
would tell yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Do some push ups?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh my gosh, what did you really my chest was small?
You would have gotten into fitness earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, totally. I didn't know how crazy I was looking back.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I don't think you were looking crazy though it was small.
I mean, yeah, but that's a part of the process.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta stay down to come up.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
What inspired you to get more into like fitness.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I just got older, Yeah, just through time. It just
became something that was more important. I worked a lot
of years on being an artist, but fitness is what
helps me be a good person. And that's what is
going to carry me on for the rest of my life.
So it was it was time to get started.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Do you see yourself ever like competing professionally.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Nah, I don't. I don't do it to compete professionally.
I do it, you know, just for personal and too.
Like I said, be a better person, and I don't
think getting in the ring is gonna help me be
a better person.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, okay, now let's get into Cushion Orange Juice too.
Did you feel any pressure in putting this together like Cushi?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
No, I didn't feel any pressure. It was fun and
it was something that I knew that if I listened
to the right people, which is the fans, and paid
attention to the right moments that matter to them, that
I could get it right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, okay. It starts off jazzy, perfect roll up music.
We love that. Who produced it?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
The majority of it is Cardo Sledgering, I, Dan Mike
and Keys and DJ Quick Problem and myself And yeah,
so that's why the sound is. I feel like it's well,
I already know what pocket the fans expect and understand
(12:57):
as like what resonates for Cushion Orange Juice, and it hits,
all of those, all of those.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Notes, definitely which ones? Did it? Quick Do?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He produced on the bonus tracks like hit It Once,
Bring Your Lungs, and he's featured on take Your Time
Get Paid. Yeah yeah, wait.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I don't think I heard the bonus tracks.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, that's cool. Yeah, they came out before the album,
like before we released the whole thing, so it was
like kind of setting everything up for it. That's why
I allowed him to be bonus tracks, and that's why
they're at the end after the outro Got It. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, I want to move into the second track
(13:44):
on the project, How We Act featuring ot Genesis.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, this hook is wild. Uh huh yeah, you let
him get away? What she want to cuddle? I want
to cuddle two legs in the air in the middle.
That's a wye come on.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It honestly made me laugh when I heard it. But
what you heard it? It was just like, yeah, that's tough.
Why did I think of that?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No? I mean he said how he felt, you know
what I mean, And like that's what that's what it's
all about. It's like lifestyle shit. It's like shit that
you could have fun too and enjoy yourself, and to me,
it just reminded me of like the nineties, like a
house party like Uncle Luke. Yeah, like you know what
I mean, just like real fun, like raw type shit,
(14:31):
you know what I mean. And it's something that I
wouldn't have said as well. So to be able to
have that be a part of it and I don't
have to say it, I'm perfectly fine.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
With that said. We got that off hell yeah, hell yeah. Okay,
after that, you have Crime Button Women.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
My favorite line on there was my son and my
daughter gonna be proud when they hear my old tapes. Now,
I'm curious, do they like rap along now? At least?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah? Yeah, he knows my shit because I bring him
on tour with me, so he knows my shit. And
he's getting older now too, so his friends are starting to,
you know, understand what that type of music is and
they're starting to be like, Yo, your dad's like really
the goat, Like he's a legend. So he gets it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Does he accept it or does he just see you
as dad?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh? He totally accepts it. Yeah, he knows what's up.
I love that, Yeah, definitely for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy
for your family.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It means a lot to me just having a good
catalog and just being able to make people feel good.
Like that's what's really important, and that's what stands out,
is that my music changes people's lives for the better.
So the fact that my kids get to benefit off
of that, I'm really happy or my family in general.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
For sure, Yeah, I really like I'm jumping ahead to
I might be, but I really like how you say
when you're ogi, you try to build a team. But
outside of just me loving the fact that you want
to build a team, A lot of people can be selfish.
But like, at what point did you become like the
young OG?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I would say probably like in my early twenties, you know,
like when I started doing all the cushion orange juice stuff,
and really, yeah, for sure, I mean I got all
of my whole squad together, and I was the example
in the bar of what to do and what not
to do and the way that I carry myself and
the people that I aligned myself with, they know that
(16:29):
I'm not going to send you down the road to
do anything that I'm not going to do or haven't
already done. So I'm the light and I've been that
and I'm gonna be that.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'm surprised that you embraced that so early.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I mean, you have to when you know your capabilities
and when you're the first one to the studio and
when you're the last one to the studio and you're
the one catching flights and you're on the road and
you're doing promo, and you're doing social media, and you're
editing your own videos, and you're you know, doing and
picking out your outfits and you're designing to merge and
(17:03):
you're doing everything. And at the end of the day,
like people follow the leader, Yeah, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
How did you manage to do all that and smoke
weed at the same time.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'm really like that. That's what I tell people is
you got to be built for it, because a lot
of people will smoke weed and get lazy and forget
to do stuff and win and show up places. But
I do all of that and I smoke a ton
of weed because I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That guy, built different different. We got to add that means.
But okay, let's get into five star talk about doing
yoga and rolling up with them like you just changed girls'
life it sounds like a soft life, a healthy life.
But it just made me curious as to like what
a day in the life of Whiskalefah looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I mean, I try to tell you it throughout
the whole album. Man, I'm glad that you can in
on these lyrics because these are the ones that are
different from the old stuff but really matter to me,
because that is a day in my life. Like I said,
kicking it with my two kids, that's a perfect evening.
So as long as I get to chill with my kids,
long as I get to work out, long as I
(18:11):
get to record some music, I'm good. That's pretty much it.
I wake up early. I get up like five thirty
six in the morning, and my morning is dedicated to
social media and my family and just getting myself together.
Then immediately after that, I'm in a gym until noon
or one o'clock. Two o'clock is the latest, because that's
(18:32):
after my yoga class. Then after two o'clock that's when
my meetings or anything like that is schedule. And then
after that the studios from eight to about twelve or
two thirty and then I go to sleep and I
do it again.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That is a good life.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's amazing. It's so much fun. It's so nondisruptive.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
How long did it take you to build that type
of schedule or were you always like kind of like
oriented like that.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
No, I wasn't always like that. Like I said, it
takes time, and I'm still developing and learning, you know,
new techniques and methods to balance and recalibrate and things
like that. And that's what it's really all about. Is
I give off so much energy and I do so much.
I have to rebuild that. And that's what I start
(19:19):
to understand. And the older that I got was like
the things that restore that energy instead of just keep going,
going going.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yep, Lord have mercy. That sounds like page I need
to take out of your book.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's cool, take your time, get paid.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm tired. Okay. Did you have like a moment where
like a moment of burnout?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No? No, I never had that. But but I don't
want to get that because I understand how important I am,
because if I burn out then it's a rap. So,
like I said, being the first to the studio, now
I got to be the first to the gym. Now
I got to be the first you know, person taking
care of myself and showing myself that self love, so
(20:02):
everybody can understand the stages of Okay, this is how
you get here, but this is how you sustain it
and maintain.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It maintaining Yes, no, that's real. Okay, I like that
and I really respect the discipline.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Actually, yeah, for sure, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Okay, I want to talk about Pimpston Hustlers because you
got a little Tyler on it. I was like, dang,
that's actually fire. If I was a rapper, I would
be so honored to be a part of Christian oors
Used too. But what's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like, we had just met because I did the freestyle
over the Florida Boy and I always like spoke highly
of Little Tyler just because of how positive he is
and like he don't talk about violence and shit like that.
He's a young dude, so it was always my intention
to work with him. And then we did the song
and I was like, damn this shit hard. Literally it
(20:52):
was like a week before the album was supposed to
come out, so I was like, man, I'm gonna just
throw this on the album, Like it just sounds good.
Are gonna love it? So it just makes sense.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
What song is your favorite on the tabe Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't have necessarily a favorite. I don't like to
say favorite, but the one that hits like the hardest
is like it's Red Eyes when it comes on. I
love that one. I love Max bat interlude, and yeah,
they all just like they're different to me because when
(21:27):
you're in a car, it sounds different than if you're
working out, then it sounds different. If you're cleaning up,
it sounds different. If you come to the show and
you see it, like I'm just now starting to perform
some of the songs and I'm gonna have new favorites
based off of performing them. Yeah, yeah, So it's difficult
for me to single them out. And that's really what
(21:48):
this is all about. It's like whatever your experience to
the song is, it's not even just the music's true
because even like the Gunner song, like I love that song,
Like that song is hard as fuck to me, and
it's a vibe was good. It slaps and for whatever
occasion and whatever memory it burns into your head, that's
what you're gonna remember.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah yeah, yep, five Star, that's likely the most relatable. Okay, yeah,
you go so we're gonna get into this game called
questions that need answers. All you have to do is
fill in the blank. All right, Okay, the older I get,
the less I party what I mean, I guess that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I like being at home by the fireplace listening
to records. Yeah, I'd much rather do that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's true. That is a party if you got the
right people with you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, but it's not going out and partying. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so maybe I've just say going out. Yes, the less
I go out?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I felt that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Do you have like a vinyl collection?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, yep, some of your favorites anything from Miles Davis,
Verry White and the Love The Love Unlimited Orchestra. They
got some slappers, Quincy Jones, he got a nice catalog.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So you've be getting the house listening to jazz. That's
your party. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Alexander O'Neil fucking Anita Baker R and b with I'll
be I'll be find. I'd be finding like a lot
of stuff too that I didn't even know was as
cold as it as it as it as it is.
So yeah, that's my vibe.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
That's fun. I love that you still love music.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I really do. I really do. I enjoy it.
It's the feeling that I get from it, and that's
what I try to recreate with my music. It's not
necessarily always about like just being, you know, the best.
I'm really good at what I do because I practice,
but I practice because I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, you see that math. That was
a good math right there. If I wasn't a rapper, I.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Work with kids. What Yeah, I love children so cute.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I love that. But my first rap check I.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Bought a car what type m It was a piece
of ship job done. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Craziest moment I've had on tour had to be when.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
When jay Z was backstage at one of my shows. Yeah,
because I didn't even know who he was. I know
who jay Z is, but he was just so low key,
like in the cut. And then the person who brought
him to the show was like, Hey, where is this is? Jay?
I'm like, what's up, JA, And I said, oh z.
(24:38):
It was right before I was going on stage too,
I'm like, nag, you forgot a letter man. So yeah, no,
that shit was wild because I was right going on stage,
so it just blew my mind, like fucking jay Z
is here like fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, I probably I
probably chilled. Yeah No, I didn't say ship because he
(24:59):
was in there looking like a ninja, so I didn't
want to, like, you know, do all that.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
That is really cool, Yeah, ironic With the next question.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Is jay Z is jay Z is? Where is jay Z?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Too many things?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Not what jay Z was? But what is jay Z?
What is he?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
When you word it like that, Yeah, A pillar?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
A pillar? Okay, I can see that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You don't like that one, all right, what you got
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm trying. Jay Z is.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
A blueprint?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that one. I like that
a lot. Definitely a blueprint for sure. I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay, Yeah that was going.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I needed help on that one. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I got you anytime. Look sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I'm super proud it should be. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
My favorite memory rest in Peace Mac Miller had to
be when.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
When we went on tour. We had so much fun
on tour. Yeah, it was fun touring on Mac. Favorite
moment it's probably like all the stuff we did backstage,
Like we used to just do like little pranks on
each other and like kidnap each other, and like we
used to do crazy stuff and we were recorded and
(26:35):
making music and stuff too, so it was fun. It
was like it was like summer camp.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What boys say, it's fun, he said, kidnap each other.
I'm like what Yeah, Yeah, Laura had Mercy Okay. And
then my last question, it's not feeling the blink. But
back in the day, Taylor Gang had Juicy J, Chabby Woods,
Titla signed Lola. What does Taylor Gang look like in
twenty twenty five and what.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Is the future still a lot of those same artists,
whether it's through management or just being cool and being
able to reach out whenever. And for the future of
Taylor Gang, we got tours coming up, we got fed
to God, we got more merch. It's really just about
(27:24):
like rebranding and expanding the brand. Because the people who
know Taylor Gang, they know what the lifestyle is like.
But the people who don't, they're living it. They just
need to be acclimated. Yeah, exactly. So we're just gonna
bring them home. And that happens through the music. It
happens through being on the road and connecting with them
(27:46):
and you know, actually just going to see them and
giving them a reason to have faith and belief in us.
So that's what the next step is, is to really
just reach out and touch the fans in a big way.
That's kind of like, you know, matter for the next
ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I love that because you really don't got to do it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
With I do. I told you I love this shit.
There we go.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I respect it. Thank you so much for joining me
on We Need to Talk.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yep, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Of course, Christian Orange us two out now. Look, you
guys tune in please. We Need to Talk is a
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